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  • Wes Clark is a lying torturing murderder. I am a witness to a premeditated murder that he has committed. This bastard and his ugly dirtbag have been stalking me for over 30 years. Starting in 1976. The courts in Europe know about this, so do the newspapers.

  • two hotties in one clip. they both make it go "schwing", even the jew lol

  • 08/05/2010's true today is 11 years since you dropped cluster bombs in Nis (Serbia) and killed 15 people, including civilians and one was pregnant (9 months). Bravo "General", bravo "heroes" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Wesley Clark JEWISH WAR CRIMINAL

  • learn your history and you will know the truth.

  • Get real...

    This clown is a WAR CRIMINAL...bombed civillians in Serbia, ruthlessly bombed Serbian civillians...

    Created an Islamic state in Europe aka Kosovo

    Supports Islamic state of Turkey to enter EU...hey why dont you partition Texas and Arizona to Mexico since the population there is mostly Mexican-American...

    this idiot along with Madeline Albright should be at the HAGUE for WAR CRIMES..

  • getting shot down absolutely does NOT = a qualification for president. period!

  • Thank you Gen. Clark. You said it in the best possibe way. Every word. All honour to you.

  • Not to diss Clark's service or anything, but he was forced into retirement by his superiors for low integrity as they called it.

  • Dan just doesn't "get it".

    He takes the "cheap shot" journalism method found in weaker minds. His style of questioning betrays a simple lack of understanding.

  • Let me just say this folks, he got shot down, if we chose every guy who gets shot down as president and NOT choose the guy who can AVOID getting shot and come home safely, wouldnt that be the dumbest fucken decision ever. How the did he get shot down in the first place? go look that up, and you'll know why he makes stupid a stupid ass president. O and If you dont listen to a fucken 4 star general, then......then youll get shot down. Gen. Clark, known to get through war without a single casualty.

  • yea go wes clark you are my favorite and one of the only true war heros of today. everything he said was true. i love gen wes clark. all the republicans hate this guy just cause he said the one thing that seems to struggle to survive today which is TRUTH. i hope others come out to speak the truth

  • Sarah Palin...married to a guy who is a card carrying member of the Alaskan Independence Party...a group that openly hates everything the US stands for...hmmmmmm Where does Sarah stand??? What does that say about the old man's judgment??? Anti American = people like TheRepublicVenu! Obama/Biden 08 for true patriots and Old Glory!

  • Sarah Palin...married to a guy who is a card carrying member of the Alaskan Independence Party...a group that openly hates everything the US stands for...hmmmmmm Where does Sarah stand??? What does that say about the old man's judgment??? Anti American = people like TheRepublicVenu! Obama/Biden 08 for true patriots and Old Glory!

  • Getting shot down and being held POW does not qualify you to lead a country, does not improve your foreign politics skills and does not even make you any more qualified to be Commander in Chief of the US military!!! Why is this so hard to get? Partisan TV sucks!

  • lol...I still don't believe that some americans are exactly like you.

    so flawed.

  • Clark is a four star general, one of the most decorated in history, he served this country greatly, what did you ever do? Barack Obama is the best fit for the job and it is anti-American of you to spread lies upon lies, just because someone disagrees with that dummie George Bush that makes them anti-American? What about your party sir, you guys just rejected Bush's bailout?

  • Wesley Clark = War Criminal, bombed Belgrade, bombed KOSOVO...created ISLAMIC state in Europe= kosovo...supports Turkey entering EU so he can create "new-CHINA" to fill his pockets...and impress Saudi Arabia for more OIL....look deeper into the picture..my friend

    Bailout plan was wrong...supported by Congress b/c BIG BUSINESS/WALLSTREET butter their toast...Pelosi/FRANK/Emmanuel=­corrupt

    Paulson/Bernacke/COX = Crooks should be indicted on charges....

    USA is now what it use to be sadly

  • Cheers mate! WESLEY CLARK GO TO HELL!!!

  • because he insults you he's anti american, so you represent all of america. where you born stupid or did you take classes.

  • This video shows you two things, that this man Gen.Wes Clark has balls to call and see things the way it ought to be called. That John McCain's harrowing experience as a P.O.W. is not by in itself the primary qualification to the Presidency.

    In WWII there were lots of American G.I.s who were P.O.W. that were tortured and roughed up by the Nazis and yet as far as I can research have openly invoked that experience as their punching ticket to a political office let alone for the presidency.

  • What this video shows, more to the point, is the unrelenting bias of the media. They will read into anyone's comments whatever will further their pro-conservative agenda. The media giants, except for the internet, are owned by a handful of Republicans.  Can we wonder, then, about the content of their programming?

  • Fox News and everyone on it are students of Goebbels. Far right lunatics who think we should let the right keep wrecking the country.

  • Getting shot down just shows mccains incompetence as a serviceman for getting shot down.. Go Gen. Clark

  • one thing is sure

    america is mightily lucky

    to have such fine material

    as wesley clark serving it

  • Gen. Clark is dead on. This was so blow out of proportion.

  • I agree with Clark, General Clark was shot up in Vietnam, when he ran for president I don't remember him talking about being injured in Vietnam and that making him qualified to be President. mccain and the media are always mentioning mccains service.

  • Not only was Clark shot 4 times in Vietnam he continued to lead his men badly wounded in a counter attack against the Vietcong and won. The man commanded NATO forces in Europe in the cold war and in the Balkans campaign successfuly.

  • Wesley Clark is right, getting shot down doesn't make you a good foreign policy expert. McCain has already proved himself to be bad on foreign policy. Attack, attack, attack is all he can say that not foreign policy thats imperalistic bullshit. Our military is stretched way to thin and we would have to build it back up again and even if we do that and attack we'll have to deal with insurgents, diplomatic relations with countries that don't want us there.

  • he's made clear that war is a last resort. there's nobody more understanding of war than Wes Clark. Mccain just wants to bomb the hell out of any country because he's sore about losing in Vietnam.

  • When people speak to you about a preventive war, you tell them to go and fight it. After my experience, I have come to hate war. ... War settles nothing.

    Dwight D. Eisenhower.

    Need I quote General Smedley Butler too?

    How about General John Batiste who returned from Iraq and started protesting this war?

  • yeah, Mccain finished 894/899 in his class at the naval academy. Clark was a valedictorian at West Point. he must be, McCain Lite LITE LIIIIITE LIIIIIIIIITE LIIIIIIIIIIIITE.

  • No, see, McCain was SHOT DOWN AND TORTURED BY THE GOOKS. That has to retroactively bump him up at least seven hundred spots in the graduating class. It has to. Support our troops 9/11 Iraq anthrax Iran terrorism bllrglrfglpfft.

    Fucking republicans.

  • Wes is the man, that interviewer sure is a manipulative weasel...or I guess thats what his editor told him to ask about...

    sign the draft clark for vp petition..

  • I served in the marine corps and I agree with this Poffy cat. I signed the damn contract cuz I was poor and wanted some free college and a valid opportunity to lead something, not so clowns can pay me lip service about "honor" and "support our troops" or to be idolized as a hero. Then I got out and delved into helping the youth and turning around hood culture into something positive. That shit is rougher than the Marines in a way.

  • How does being a fighter pilot grunt and getting shot down qualify you to be president anyway? Clark is RIGHT ON THE MONEY. You don't even have to apologize for "dissing" his stupid service--how is military service in any way more "noble" than teaching or plumbing or playing piano in a bar? It's a goddam JOB that YOU SIGNED UP FOR! You know you're gonna get shot at--don't force me to call you noble if you KNOW you're putting your head in a lion's mouth.

  • especially a fighter pilot that only made it through the naval academy because of who his father was. he's just a privileged little bastard.

  • A self-supporting Harvard law professor who helped save Chicago neighborhoods from collapsing in on themselves vs. a guy who almost failed out of naval academy, got millions of dollars' worth of planes blown up, and divorced his crippled wife to marry a trophy beer brewery heiress and own property in several states, all while calling his opponent "elitist." Who do you think deserves to be president?

  • eloquently put mr. clark. Every single media response to his comment has been a lie and a distortion of his comments. If the media can't break down and understand the clear meaning of a person's statement god help them... Of course fox was clearly salivating at the opportunity, and based on their slander, were willing to misquote and misrepresent Clark's statements for their own gain. disgusting but expected

  • A loser?

    He's a West Point valedictorian,

    a Rhodes scholar with a PPE degree from Oxford University,

    He was Supreme Commander of Europe during the Balkan war, ending that horrible war with effective air raids against the Serbs.

    What have you done in your life that can compare to those accomplishments?

  • Obama '08 Obama '08 Obama '08 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Is that really the best you've got? LOL jealous of McCain for what? being almost last in his Class in the Academy? the crapshoottalker he likes to brag about himself? Really?

    Gen.Clark did not attained the rank of Four Star for being stupid. The guy commanded from every level of the Army offered to him and excelled and rose to every challenge pose to him given by the Army. You can hate his politics but let's not get carried away sir, you can't a hold a candle to this man, never.

  • TheRepublicanVenu, you are absolutely right in the fact that Clark has not gone through what McCain has, but this is not a matter of who had it worse. It is a matter of who would be a better candidate for president regardless of whether they have served in the military or not. It is not to say that Obama has more experience in any particular field. Clark is just trying to show to the American people that in the terms of becoming president, your military service shouldn't be your strongest point.

  • "In February 1970, only one month into his command, [Clark] was shot four times by a Viet Cong soldier with an AK-47. The wounded Clark shouted orders to his men, who counterattacked and defeated the Viet Cong force."

    en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/­Wesley_Clark

  • TheRepublicV...go fuck yourself asshole!!!!

  • The only thing being a POW for 5 years in Vietnam prepares a person for is psychiatric counseling.

  • This clown is now history in politics according to a news piece today! Listen at him lying and packpeddling in this piece!

  • He's not backpedaling at all, lay down your crack pipe idiot

  • The republican venu,you know it's funny usually you republicans are so gung ho military,and hear yuo have a 4 star general, supreme allied commander of nato,commanded over a sucsesfull war in yugoslavia,and the smartest thing you can come up with is idiot, getting shot down and spending 5 years at the hanoi hilton is far different then leading men into battle. mccain cant hold a candle to clark when it comes to military strategy the man is an enciclopedia,he could be the next sec-def or even v.p

  • Maybe you're tired of hearing a someone respectfully and honestly express an opinion, but I welcome his well made point. As for a reason of why anything he said should warrant such extreme vitriol, no one has answered my question that I posed above this comment. That's because people who are ignorant just attack stupidly, as opposed to having a meaningful argument. Clark made some great points, and then everyone (tv and youtubers) puts words in his mouth and say that he 'ridiculed' McCain. lol

  • Rightwingers are up and arms about Gen.Clark's insightful and truthful comments about McCain's lack of executive level experience. That is the fucking truth.

    Can't handle it then try to refute it without resorting to name calling. Before you even start mentioning Obama, Barak Obama was and not running on the basis executive experience but ON JUDGMENT. THE FORESIGHT TO SEE THAT THE WAR IN IRAQ WAS A DUMB WAR. A WAR OF WHICH MCCAIN FALSELY CLAIMED TO BE A CAKEWALK.

    McCain a man with no vision

  • Gen Clark is honorable and honest.

  • obama probably thinks NUKES are those shoes he wears when he plays basketball with his homeys.

  • well said general!!!

    your order is my command.

    we need the army general who has won wars to take over the white house and put these warmongers in jail including mc cain who should never be so proud of vietnam. vietnam was a stupid war anyway and millions of innocent viets were bombed by american pilots for nothing.

    no hero in an unjust war!!! by the way he got caught so what is so heroic about being caught.

  • People need to stop putting words in Clark's mouth. What was it that Clark said that is so upsetting to these FOX "journalists"? And please don't paraphrase, find the exact quote. Even if you take it out of the proper context, what he says is true and not really dismissive towards McCain.

  • McAncient is a loose cannon who doesn't know if he's coming or going. He's a political windsock who changes his position with the prevailing wind. He's not a leader - he's a follower. He has a history of losing his temper and shouting obscenities at his colleagues. He was tortured for years as a P.O.W. and is psychologically unstable. He jokingly sings songs about bombing other nations and regularly exercises poor judgment. If elected president he would be the catalyst for a new world war.

  • Wesley Clark is was a shit general and even worse politician.

    He thinks degrading and reducing the US military is a good thing and he wants to go back to the EU and UN cap in hand like those two groups know what the fuck they're doing.

    Obama said he wants to slow future developed of weapons and cut funding to the missile shield.

    Between these two our enemies won't have to worry about our defenses cuz we won't have any.

    Wesley you Weasel, nobody likes you!

  • i dont know i dont thing he was degrading the military, i think he was just saying that serving in the military doesnt make you qualified to be president. You know, policy making and shooting guns are kind of different.

  • You're right, serving in the military doesn't make you qualified to lead a country.

    Wesley Clark is a good example since he ran for presidential nominee and lost both times.

    I think McCain's actions as a POW lead to character which is important in any president.

    p.s. when I said "degrading the military" I meant degrading the militaries capability, not the service men and women.

  • MSNBC at least lets its guests speaks, unlike Billophile and Laura Wingnut

  • Clark graduated 1st in his class.

    Some of McCain's classmates think he was at the bottom of his class -- only listed as 5th from bottom because it'd look bad to have an Admiral's son finish last.

    And don't buy the BS about McCain refusing to be released early -- the other prisoners say that's common & all prisoners decline until all are released.

    MCCAIN USED HYPERBOLE ON HIS RECORD & HE COULD DO THAT AS AN EXCUSE FOR WAR.

    I'm Republican but will vote for either Barr or Barrack.

  • Yeah, yeah.  Sure, sure.

  • idiot x 4

  • idiot x 3

  • idiot x 2

  • your an idiot...

  • "McCain is a true patriot"

    McCain layed his own john hancock on Vietnamese letters denouncing his own citizenship.

    traitor.

  • "cash in his pension checks, go and play bingo at an retard old folks center "

    surely you meant to say McCain here right?

    "Wesley Clark is a post militia leader fuck up."

    how dare you question the military service of an American General. you are a traitor.

    McCain fathered a black child out of wedlock in South Carolina.

  • General's are better than whatever lowly rank McCain had.

    you think because he's a shitty pilot and spends 5 years in a tiger box we should bow down and worship rumpleforeskin? give me a break.

    you wanna talk about traitor? McCain signed the standard denouncement letter the gooks presented to POW's. McCain signed it. Deiter Dengler a true patriot would not sign it. McCain did. traitor.

  • Clark is a general. what the fuck was McCain?

    how many GI's have been shot down in the history of combat? should they all run for president?

  • If the camera had panned down,you would have seen obama's arm up this idiot's butt moving his mouth to a prepared speech.

  • On the issue of judgement it's clear Wes Clark doesn't have any.

  • Christopher Hitchens recently got himself WATERBOARDED for Vanity Fair.

    Video and article. Pity it wasn't Rumsfeld.

    Go to vanityfair dot c o m ....

    Is it Torture?

  • Wesley Clark was never a P.O.W., your position determines your qualification. What the heck is he talking about. When did John McCain say "being a P.O.W. qualifies me to be president"? NEVER.

  • So only Generals are qualified to be president, or use their service to become president. Wesley Clark is dead wrong and his argument makes no sense. According to him Obama isn't qualified to be president.

  • Gen. Wesley Clark is right on. McCain's POW experience should be rigorously examined. It's part of the job of running for President of the United States.

  • You don't know what you're talking about

  • Everyone? are you sure about that keyboard commando? did you served? or just serving some shit shoving in your mouth that's why you are coming back with stupid and asinine comment like this.

    Gen.Clark would not have been elevated to his position if the guy was hated, as you likes to claim. I don't want to keep repeating my horn here, I served and I have the privilege and honor to serve this great country of ours U.S.A and serve under this excellent officer in Gen.Clark.

    And no he was nt hated

  • General Wesley Clark's comments about John McCain's 5 years as a POW makes.... perfect sense! If a criminal got caught by the police and was locked up for 5 years you wouldn't say that qualifies him as a good criminal, right?! Think about it. Oh ya, Saddam Hussein was in a hole for a while does that make him qualified to be the president.

  • I agree, McCain is a fraud and a loser

  • Please let's not disparage John McCain's service. The man served honorably and proudly so. But the point that Gen.Clark is conveying is that MCCain learnt the wrong lesson from his experience as his "JUDGEMENT" INTO THE WAR WE DID NOT HAVE TO FIGHT, AND HIS JUDGMENT TO CONTINUE TO BELIEVE that force is the first resort to every geo-political problems we have.

    I as a former soldier like Gen.Clark whom I proudly served under believes that force must be used as A LAST LAST RESORT.

  • continues....

    4)Patriot in the eye of a Republican is someone who favors Big Corporations and snubs the middle class, such as dodger lil' Bush. 5)Repubs trashed John Kerry's record, a 'nam hero, to favor who? Daddy's little boy Bush.

    Obama/Biden 2008 and 2012

  • Some facts1)this is not an issue, Gen Clark said the same thing when he was still supporting Hillary and nobody said anything. 2)McBush camp used Clark's statements to neutralize the patriotism speech Obama had scheduled for the next day 3)Gen Clark did not question McCain's patriotism at any moment

  • Well said, General Clark. Very well said. He is completely right -- while he honors McCain's military service, being a POW doesn't make ANYONE to be more qualified to be president than the next guy. Clark ran a war without losing a single American life -- I think we need to trust somebody like him.

  • The more i find out about Barak Hussein Obama the more i dislike him.

  • I disagree with Obama and think he was wrong to trash Clark for making a reasonable statement. Got it, McCain is a war hero. Does that make him a good potential president? Hell, Repubs, you all voted for a Vietnam dodger who daddy took care of for the last 8 years and made no issue of the importance of military exp. Now you bring in the sleezebags to trash a 4 Star General? Wow, that is so American of you. It;s over boys, Obama has a lock because McCain is 8 years too late.

  • People who i know have'nt voted in 25 years have told me that they can't wait till Nov for two reasons,1) being the begining of hunting season and 2)finally shutting the pie hole of the pompass elite liberal shine boy once and for all.... Do your self a favor and don't bet on anything else.

  • You are nothing but a racist, Will, so when this "shine boy" gets elected, why don;t you leave the US Virgin islands for, lets say, JAMAICA!! I will be certain to let them know you are coming.

  • I thought i was being generous,calling the magic negro (shine boy).But you made me realize that term was too good for him. How about phoney liberal loser. Shine boy describes someone with integrity .Thankyou for pointing that out to me. As for him getting elected, every redneck both sides of the Mississippi will leave their bar stools to put an end to this phoney baloney friend of terrorists and preachers gone wild empty suit. Don't doubt it.

  • lol,you are a riot, Will.  Barstool boys don't vote, they live out their rotten lives drinking and being bitter for being so stupid and envious of others. They lie in their puking hatred and wait until death claims them. You hate Obama for one reason...he is better than you. He is the American dream, you are the American nightmare.

  • Barry Husein is better than me? Better what? Better looking? If i looked like Obama i'd shave my dogs ass and walk it backwards.If Obama was smater than me he would see what an asshole he is for sitting in a pew for 20 something years while the clown Jerry Wright made an ass out of himself every time he opened his big cake hole. Better than me? What the hell is a "community organizer" any way? Al Sharpton could probably answer that one. Better at what? getting puke hole libs to suck his ass?

  • lol, you are one sad little human.

  • The truth hurts my dribbling mouth breathing bama tosser ..... Your candidate is a fraud. Your candidate is a scary libbot with insane idiot friends and associates.

  • Your right ,shine boy assumes that person has some credability and that eliminates Obama. America by November will tire of this phoney and all his seedy associates. Rednecks will get off their bar stools long enough to cancel out this emty suit. The guy is like an annoying bug . Every time he speaks he gets me sick. Can't wait till he's swatted .

  • Why don't you come to Jamaica your self so i can kick your charcoal ass you fucking black ass sucker

  • Wes the Weasel opened his mouth and inserted both his Tankerboots heel first again.

    He's so desperate for office he would step on his mother to be chosen for VP

    I do love to see the spin the Wes Weasels are putting on his latest Gaffe

  • Really doggie, check again Wes Clark has been saying this for months already, while he was supporting hillary. You are just one fucked up liberal,conservative idiot.

  • Lets be fair here...showing political party views does not solve anything...just makes it worse.

    John Mc Cain is a war hero and a very brave man for what he did for his country. That alone gave him the chance to become a successful politician and he deserves all our respect.

    But being brave and being hero does qualifies an individual to become the President of the USA...and Mc Cain does not have the intelectual tools to be a President.

    We do not want this war nor get into a recession.

  • What? Gen Clark can say whatever he wants!!! Suck on it chumps!

  • Clark was an extremely "political" (as in office politics) officer on active duty. He gained little, if any, respect from his peers or subordinates. His career ended with him being relieved of command and passed over for advancement after that. He could have served as the prototype for Courtney Massengale.

  • i'm glad this man was once a great leader and motivator of people in the United States, these days we seem to have so few.

  • "I believe that military service is the most honorable endeavor an American may undertake. But I've never believed that lack of military service disqualifies one from occupying positions of political leadership or as Commander and Chief. In America, the people are sovereign, and they decide who is and is not qualified to lead us."

    John McCain [American Legion Speech, 9/7/1999]

  • During an interview with National Journal, John McCain was asked if "military service inherently makes somebody better equipped to be commander-in-chief." McCain said, "Absolutely not...I absolutely don't believe that it's necessary." [National Journal, 2/15/2003]

  • *Earlier this year at Washington's Gridiron Club, where humor is the required fare, McCain lay bare what underlies his candidacy. Wearing a jacket outlandishly festooned with dozens of fake military medals, McCain said, "The question I ask myself every morning while shaving in front of the mirror is: OK, John, you're an incredible war hero, an inspiration to all Americans. But what qualifies you to be president of the United States?" [Minneapolis Star Tribune, 11/7/1999]

  • Clark is spot on!

    What's more; being a POW doesn't make someone a hero. It makes them a POW. McCain got shot down and captured, how does that make someone a hero? A bad pilot maybe, but not a hero.

  • watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g

  • Clark is at least the third Obama campaign surrogate that's taken pot-shots at McCain's war service. Clark was not speaking for himself; he was speaking on direct orders of Obama.

    The intent is to denigrate McCain's war service, because it's related to the public's opinion that McCain would be a better war leader than Obama. Just like Bill Clinton made a technically correct statement when Obama won South Carolina...but his intent was to denigrate Obama's victory.

  • Pot shot at his service?

    It's not a good thing to be shot down.

  • Appears to me the honorable General had praising remarks & high regard for the honorable McCain as a miltary officer and a friend.. HE JUST TRIED TO POINT OUT THAT THESE HIGHLY REGARDED ACTIONS ARE NOT THE ONLY CRITERIA IN WHICH A PERSON IS JUDGED AS CAPABLE & QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT. Executive experience vs. operational experience...He didn't mention that John graduated nearly last in his class and crashed a few planes, & probably wouldn't even got into flight school if not for his father.

  • Clark 100% right

    at least Clark is honorable, he never used the fact that he was seriously wounded in Vietnam during his campaigns, McCain keeps bringing it up

  • Wesley Clark is right, why are people still stuck on this???

  • Clark is darn right!!!

    Obama should not hide away from this. These republicans are cooking up some terrorist attack or some middle east conflict that will boost McCains cridentials and their only hope is potraying McCain as a POW and showing his strong points if the US is attacked. Everybody knows that because you were a POW does not qualify you to become a president. Darn straight Truth!! I dont know why people are twisting from the point.

  • Sir, If you are an honorable person and have a proper perspective on looking and reading things no matter what the politics of the person commenting.

    As you can see clearly from this video and of the video on Face the nation when all of this non sense started Gen.Clark never disparaged John McCain's service as a P.O.W. veteran. Gen.Clark is not some hippie here, the man was shot 4 times, went home on a stretcher and relearnt how to walk back again and help my Army past the Vietnam ghost.

  • Must be snark.....as I remember the purple band-aids worn at the RNC in 2004 and the attacks on Max Cleland years earlier.

    How can McCain even accept the premise that his military service was being dishonored?

  • Crap. All he said that was flying and crashing a fighter plane wasn't a qualification to be president. How is that "questioning McCain's military service"?

  • Of course it's snark. John McCain is a surrender monkey. He surrendered to the Viet Cong and he'll surrender to the Islamofascists. Why do you think the Evangelicals don't support him?

  • ecause Bush & co. did a amamzing job of smearing McCain in 2000.

    +He publicaly scorned Robertso, Falwell and those like them back then.

  • Dude has got brass balls.

  • Starcatcher888... I'm just wondering if you support President Bush? If so, why? If not, why not?

  • You have nothing to apologize for. Too bad Obama is acting like a weasel and threw you under the bus.

  • ballsy

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