I come to settle this. Cryengine 2 and XRay both look amazing. HOWEVER: Cryengine 2 is very poorly optimised, and the majority of its grapical epicness comes from it's beautiful dynamic particle effects and video FX. The XRay engine, without an aftermod, lacks most of these features but is very well optimised, until a texture glitch shows up and ends your game. The XRay Engines shaders are superior to Crysis' and can support, AT least, 5 dynamic shaders at a time.
@kevlar60442 The most I ever saw from Crysis was 3. Crysis also suffers from some poor texture alignment and dumb AI, Two areas where, in my opinion, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. exells.
the graphics still don't look anything like Crysis or other DX10/11 titles. It still looks like a DX9 title with some special lighting effects. Nothing to be impressed about here.
@GordonFreeMANness You sir are the biggest moron on the face of this planet. You actually think Clear Sky could light a candle to the CryEngine 2 of Crysis?!?! LMFAOOOO@U! Not only are the light shafts absolute shit in Clear Sky- the performance hit you take for even enabling them is ridiculous! Cry Engine 2 Runs far better and smoother, along with much higher resolution textures and far better use of next gen lighting techniques. Clear Sky is just a regurgitation of the SOC engine. Get Real.
@illmagnified STALKER has a LOT better lighting model. And it DOES have a LOT higher res textures than Crysis! Apparently, you don't even know what the texture or the lighting is!
@GordonFreeMANness HAHA! "STALKER has LOT better lighting model"- APPARENTLY- YOU are the one who DOESN'T KNOW SHIT! Listen, I love the Stalker Franchise, I have all of them including Pripyat- but Crysis is in a league of its own when it comes to tech and visuals... Crysis is not only optimized 10 times better than the Engine of Stalker, but the lighting techniques and models, including geometry and shadows are so far ahead of Stalker you can't even compare the to...I dont get you at all...
That "pop up" grass looks REALLY weird! Also, the bluish haze doesnt look right either... Still a lot of work to do until this stuff will look beyond epic. Sadly I dont really like the gameplay of STALKER, it has a great storyline and atmosphere but the whole complicated crap and grinding for money by searching for stuff in epicly dangerous places kinda sucks... I like more linear stuff than STALKER to be honest. But night graphix are specatacular
@saren1994 What? Have you played ANY game on that engine? STALKER: Clear Sky, (I don't wanna mention CoP with its extremely craptastic visuals) on the other hand, has already come out
@GordonFreeMANness Oh and one more thing, Pripyat has better visuals and more advanced lighting than Clear Sky... What the hell planet are you living on? Do you not realize how stupid you sound? Your comparing an older game with its next gen counter part? COP if anything comes far closer to Crysis than Clear Sky... Have you even researched the 3 different game engines for yourself? You talk out of your ass but you are highly uneducated... Do you even know what Parallax Shaders are?
@illmagnified What? Steep parallax, right? Well, CS has that thing. And so it has superior lighting system and far more greater looking character models and higher overall texture resolution than both Crysis and CoP!
P.S.: There is no such thing as parallax shaderS, FYI.
@GordonFreeMANness Actually its Parallax Mapping and Shading techniques. There are mods for SoC which enables these techniques. Here's a REAL simple way of comparing the 2. You say Stalker has the better visuals and textures. How about you Compare the Face models of Crysis models and Stalker. Easy enough.
Stalker series got a far superiour lighting and shadow play going for it, greating wastly superiour atmosphere to graphically superior games such as crysis, far cry 2 or unreal 3 engine games.
The x-ray engine does what it is supposed to do wonderfully, it creates a presence, it makes it feel authentic, it creates the atmosphere that the game tries to represent.
Not many other games can do that. and continuing that, i would like to say(continued)
That games are not remembered for their graphics, take games that came out a decade ago that played on best graphics, how many of you remember emperor battle for dune? a 3d rts extravaganza and countless others... they where not remembered, because their selling point, graphics obviously did not stand the test of time, and its shallow or generic gameplay caught up with it...
We remember super mario for its gameplay, not its graphics, we rem stalker for atmosphere, not graphics
True, the xray is based on directx 8.1... x) you can use it by selecting static lighting, actually, i think it is the most scalable game yet, you can run it on a 6 year old computer that was never upgraded, and it can still push brand new powerhouses.
@behemuth It looks kinda awful Maxed out with 4xAA in DX 10 on 1080p compared to other games :/.. The modeling is nothing new, in fact it looks like a upgraded pre-gen.. Thus, the music is very good..
I need to test this game for myself in DX11 with GTX 480 in 15 days ^^..
Well it does not l9ook awfull, even on a bad day it does not look so bad that it should bug anyone... and no game i know of looks better indoors, at night or storms. However on cloudy days where shadows and light are not so much at work, yeah it looks worse... but nothing that SHOULD turn you off.
@behemuth Mass effect 2? Bad company 2? GTA 4 (old i know) + Heavy rain, has nice weather effects
its kinda below average of what i've seen in previous games this year. Both RPG's and non-rpg games. In fact, i think i would place the graphics on 4/10 compared to the standards.
But, then again Stalker is not all about graphics. So if i just ignore that i would say that stalker has some potential to a certain extent. Yet, it tends to become very repatetive after a while. for me, its a 6/10 game.
Well, it got better shadow rendering, and tesslation or whatever its called, basically it makes round objects, or circular ones appear round, and not like a hexagon or octagon
NeoFX: go and find me another game in which in outdoors & at night you got the tension that you can fin in STALKER.
And no, Battlefield 2 do not have any kind of dynamic ilumination, neither a lot of X-Ray Engine offers.
Besides content, not only form. At least, some developers try to innovate wit h this games, not like others which only offers rambish action and "scripts for kids".
das schauts schon alles geil aus, ABER diese grasbüschel -. die sieht man nur bis zu einer bestimmten entfernung und danach kommen gar keine mehr . . . ausserdem werfen diese grasbüschel keine schatten, was ich sehr arm finde -.--
Die Sichtbeschränkung haben die Entwickler eingebaut, um eine bessere Performance zu gewährleisten. Das ist so wie mit Leichenmodels in Unreal Engine, die nach einiger Zeit verschwinden.
Man kann jedoch in allen STALKER-Spielen in den erweiteren Grafikoptionen die Entfernung einstellen, bis zu welcher die Grasbüscheln und andere Objekte dieser Art gerendert werden sollen. Ich habe bei mir alles auf hoch, sodass bei mir die Grasbüschel weiter reichen als in diesem Video.
Also das Spiel wird definitiv geholt, habe die anderen Teile auch alle hier und fand diese echt klasse. Aber bei dem Spiel würd ich glaub ich nur Nachts spielen da kommt mehr Atmosphäre auf bei Gewitter und dem allen. Echt gelungen und schön anzusehen ;)
just dont get why this engine seems so "un.optimized" on todays standards it looks ok, but not even great. there are games from 2009 that have better visual and do run way more smothly.
worst pain in the game are the animations that look really outdated. always like stalker for his atmosphere but they really need to change the whole engine for the next stalker game. U engine should do fine for this kinda game though
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Shhh... don't tell anyone, but the X-Ray Engine is actually a pice of shit.
And while the STALKER franchise has many redeeming factors, it is still one of the most overrated PC games ever created, mostly from the graphical/technical point of view.
Just by adding a "DX11" tag on top of the game, idiots and tech-head wannabes around the world are swarming this like flies on shit.
jesus, the info says 720p so shut up and be patient. am i the only one here who has been on youtube before?
concerning the video:
the dynamic shadows at night look great but maybe they should work on those extreme pop-ups, one additional set of low quality sprites would be better than nothing.
when youre walking instead of flying youre probably not gonna notice it that much though :-)
actually youtube needs to render videos, a website can not edit anything.
and of all comments you chose mine to respond to when i was one of the 2 people (smartguy9765+me) who werent... just read my original comment again -.-
a web site is a digital "thing". when you edit something you change parts of it to create an overall message/context/censorship that you prefer over the original one.
like sxeqhil who was often critisized for cutting too much. he did so because he wanted to compress or concentrate the awesomeness of his jokes and opinion. there needs to be an "EDITOR".
youtube is merely programmed to convert videos to its technical standards.
I come to settle this. Cryengine 2 and XRay both look amazing. HOWEVER: Cryengine 2 is very poorly optimised, and the majority of its grapical epicness comes from it's beautiful dynamic particle effects and video FX. The XRay engine, without an aftermod, lacks most of these features but is very well optimised, until a texture glitch shows up and ends your game. The XRay Engines shaders are superior to Crysis' and can support, AT least, 5 dynamic shaders at a time.
kevlar60442 1 year ago
@kevlar60442 The most I ever saw from Crysis was 3. Crysis also suffers from some poor texture alignment and dumb AI, Two areas where, in my opinion, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. exells.
kevlar60442 1 year ago
FFFFFUUUU- this is ugly.
wiegje 1 year ago
whats the name of song?
raketenDK 1 year ago
wow mine looks like shit ,i can't fu\iure it out ni would under stand if i had the grapichs set to low but its on maxima and it loloks like shit
pvtbarnes 1 year ago
This is one of the worst games of all time stalker of the creators of this game as they had cheated :-(
hankmanGTA 1 year ago
@hankmanGTA
Let me guess. You haven't played this game?
HayateKanto 1 year ago
@HayateKanto I played it yet but I did not finish: (
hankmanGTA 1 year ago
the graphics still don't look anything like Crysis or other DX10/11 titles. It still looks like a DX9 title with some special lighting effects. Nothing to be impressed about here.
illmagnified 1 year ago
@illmagnified Clear Sky has better GFX than Crysis OR Call of Pripyat! So STFU!
GordonFreeMANness 1 year ago
@GordonFreeMANness You sir are the biggest moron on the face of this planet. You actually think Clear Sky could light a candle to the CryEngine 2 of Crysis?!?! LMFAOOOO@U! Not only are the light shafts absolute shit in Clear Sky- the performance hit you take for even enabling them is ridiculous! Cry Engine 2 Runs far better and smoother, along with much higher resolution textures and far better use of next gen lighting techniques. Clear Sky is just a regurgitation of the SOC engine. Get Real.
illmagnified 1 year ago
@illmagnified STALKER has a LOT better lighting model. And it DOES have a LOT higher res textures than Crysis! Apparently, you don't even know what the texture or the lighting is!
GordonFreeMANness 1 year ago
@GordonFreeMANness HAHA! "STALKER has LOT better lighting model"- APPARENTLY- YOU are the one who DOESN'T KNOW SHIT! Listen, I love the Stalker Franchise, I have all of them including Pripyat- but Crysis is in a league of its own when it comes to tech and visuals... Crysis is not only optimized 10 times better than the Engine of Stalker, but the lighting techniques and models, including geometry and shadows are so far ahead of Stalker you can't even compare the to...I dont get you at all...
illmagnified 1 year ago
That "pop up" grass looks REALLY weird! Also, the bluish haze doesnt look right either... Still a lot of work to do until this stuff will look beyond epic. Sadly I dont really like the gameplay of STALKER, it has a great storyline and atmosphere but the whole complicated crap and grinding for money by searching for stuff in epicly dangerous places kinda sucks... I like more linear stuff than STALKER to be honest. But night graphix are specatacular
viciokas1993 1 year ago
ellos si saben otimizar recursos :/
no como otras compañias que solo buscar hacerte pobre D:
GodofArcangels 1 year ago
Cryengine 3 is waaay better! ;) (Y)
saren1994 1 year ago
@saren1994 What? Have you played ANY game on that engine? STALKER: Clear Sky, (I don't wanna mention CoP with its extremely craptastic visuals) on the other hand, has already come out
GordonFreeMANness 1 year ago
@GordonFreeMANness Oh and one more thing, Pripyat has better visuals and more advanced lighting than Clear Sky... What the hell planet are you living on? Do you not realize how stupid you sound? Your comparing an older game with its next gen counter part? COP if anything comes far closer to Crysis than Clear Sky... Have you even researched the 3 different game engines for yourself? You talk out of your ass but you are highly uneducated... Do you even know what Parallax Shaders are?
illmagnified 1 year ago
@illmagnified What? Steep parallax, right? Well, CS has that thing. And so it has superior lighting system and far more greater looking character models and higher overall texture resolution than both Crysis and CoP!
P.S.: There is no such thing as parallax shaderS, FYI.
GordonFreeMANness 1 year ago
@GordonFreeMANness Actually its Parallax Mapping and Shading techniques. There are mods for SoC which enables these techniques. Here's a REAL simple way of comparing the 2. You say Stalker has the better visuals and textures. How about you Compare the Face models of Crysis models and Stalker. Easy enough.
illmagnified 1 year ago
@illmagnified The only thing I say is CS has better visuals than CoP not vice versa. The release date doesn't matter in this case.
GordonFreeMANness 1 year ago
Hmm, Stalker looks pathetic compared to AvsP 2010, plus it runs a lot worse than AvsP.
I was and still am in shock about AvsP, trust me, that game is AWESOME, just too short hehe.
The Stalker weapon models are always a kick in the nuts, they look like quake 2 models, rofl.
oBseSsIoNPC 1 year ago
"omg lol, derp derp grfx!!1one!!eleven!"
Stalker series got a far superiour lighting and shadow play going for it, greating wastly superiour atmosphere to graphically superior games such as crysis, far cry 2 or unreal 3 engine games.
The x-ray engine does what it is supposed to do wonderfully, it creates a presence, it makes it feel authentic, it creates the atmosphere that the game tries to represent.
Not many other games can do that. and continuing that, i would like to say(continued)
behemuth 2 years ago 3
That games are not remembered for their graphics, take games that came out a decade ago that played on best graphics, how many of you remember emperor battle for dune? a 3d rts extravaganza and countless others... they where not remembered, because their selling point, graphics obviously did not stand the test of time, and its shallow or generic gameplay caught up with it...
We remember super mario for its gameplay, not its graphics, we rem stalker for atmosphere, not graphics
behemuth 2 years ago
for a Dx 8.1 game it truly is epic
tman2tuff 2 years ago
True, the xray is based on directx 8.1... x) you can use it by selecting static lighting, actually, i think it is the most scalable game yet, you can run it on a 6 year old computer that was never upgraded, and it can still push brand new powerhouses.
behemuth 2 years ago
@behemuth It looks kinda awful Maxed out with 4xAA in DX 10 on 1080p compared to other games :/.. The modeling is nothing new, in fact it looks like a upgraded pre-gen.. Thus, the music is very good..
I need to test this game for myself in DX11 with GTX 480 in 15 days ^^..
stovnergutt 1 year ago
Well it does not l9ook awfull, even on a bad day it does not look so bad that it should bug anyone... and no game i know of looks better indoors, at night or storms. However on cloudy days where shadows and light are not so much at work, yeah it looks worse... but nothing that SHOULD turn you off.
behemuth 1 year ago
@behemuth Mass effect 2? Bad company 2? GTA 4 (old i know) + Heavy rain, has nice weather effects
its kinda below average of what i've seen in previous games this year. Both RPG's and non-rpg games. In fact, i think i would place the graphics on 4/10 compared to the standards.
But, then again Stalker is not all about graphics. So if i just ignore that i would say that stalker has some potential to a certain extent. Yet, it tends to become very repatetive after a while. for me, its a 6/10 game.
stovnergutt 1 year ago
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keropanalos 2 years ago
So.... what's the friggin' difference?
Looks exactly the same as clear sky.
rodzandz 2 years ago 2
Well, it got better shadow rendering, and tesslation or whatever its called, basically it makes round objects, or circular ones appear round, and not like a hexagon or octagon
behemuth 2 years ago
Where is DX 11?
komsomolets83 2 years ago
@BrioCyrain: Yes, dinamic ilumination. Did you at least run the benchmark or saw STALKER Clear Sky Dx 10 graphic menu ?
Because in the benchmark or in the SCoP graphic menu was a year ago so obvious.
Nemesa 2 years ago
NeoFX: go and find me another game in which in outdoors & at night you got the tension that you can fin in STALKER.
And no, Battlefield 2 do not have any kind of dynamic ilumination, neither a lot of X-Ray Engine offers.
Besides content, not only form. At least, some developers try to innovate wit h this games, not like others which only offers rambish action and "scripts for kids".
Nemesa 2 years ago
Dynamic Illumination? If it's in this video it's pretty insignificant.
BrioCyrain 2 years ago
Graphics reminds me of Battlefield 2...the quality that is..lol.
BrioCyrain 2 years ago
das schauts schon alles geil aus, ABER diese grasbüschel -. die sieht man nur bis zu einer bestimmten entfernung und danach kommen gar keine mehr . . . ausserdem werfen diese grasbüschel keine schatten, was ich sehr arm finde -.--
ZOMB1384 2 years ago 8
Die Sichtbeschränkung haben die Entwickler eingebaut, um eine bessere Performance zu gewährleisten. Das ist so wie mit Leichenmodels in Unreal Engine, die nach einiger Zeit verschwinden.
Man kann jedoch in allen STALKER-Spielen in den erweiteren Grafikoptionen die Entfernung einstellen, bis zu welcher die Grasbüscheln und andere Objekte dieser Art gerendert werden sollen. Ich habe bei mir alles auf hoch, sodass bei mir die Grasbüschel weiter reichen als in diesem Video.
Retrozyklus 2 years ago
@ZOMB1384 wenn sämtliche grasbüchel realistische schatten würfen, kämst du wahrscheinlich auf ne durchschnitts-framerate von 5.
mirabilis87 9 months ago
How incredibly unimpressive... yet again...
No worries, I'm sure GSC can add more bugs and useless graphical crap untill the game ships international so that everyone is happy!
NeoXF 2 years ago
work this game on me pc? with no lag
intel pentium 4 , 3,06ghz
2gb ram
geforce 8600gt 512
play4killLT12 2 years ago
Yes ^^ You can still play it on stalker soc graphics ^^
ShiftY919 2 years ago
@play4killLT12 lol
NOS1000 2 years ago
Also das Spiel wird definitiv geholt, habe die anderen Teile auch alle hier und fand diese echt klasse. Aber bei dem Spiel würd ich glaub ich nur Nachts spielen da kommt mehr Atmosphäre auf bei Gewitter und dem allen. Echt gelungen und schön anzusehen ;)
xxrhacalxx 2 years ago
bad.
matteuklol 2 years ago
just dont get why this engine seems so "un.optimized" on todays standards it looks ok, but not even great. there are games from 2009 that have better visual and do run way more smothly.
worst pain in the game are the animations that look really outdated. always like stalker for his atmosphere but they really need to change the whole engine for the next stalker game. U engine should do fine for this kinda game though
dharkbizkit 2 years ago 2
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Shhh... don't tell anyone, but the X-Ray Engine is actually a pice of shit.
And while the STALKER franchise has many redeeming factors, it is still one of the most overrated PC games ever created, mostly from the graphical/technical point of view.
Just by adding a "DX11" tag on top of the game, idiots and tech-head wannabes around the world are swarming this like flies on shit.
NeoXF 2 years ago
@NeoXF
Why is Xray piece of crap? Serieusly play the game and then judge. Even then show some arguments at least.
LordDonib 2 years ago
so still no motion blur in the engine? that's so 2006.
Nuker1337 2 years ago 2
jesus, the info says 720p so shut up and be patient. am i the only one here who has been on youtube before?
concerning the video:
the dynamic shadows at night look great but maybe they should work on those extreme pop-ups, one additional set of low quality sprites would be better than nothing.
when youre walking instead of flying youre probably not gonna notice it that much though :-)
NiNm62 2 years ago 7
idiot youtube needs to "edit" videos
point6000x 2 years ago
actually youtube needs to render videos, a website can not edit anything.
and of all comments you chose mine to respond to when i was one of the 2 people (smartguy9765+me) who werent... just read my original comment again -.-
NiNm62 2 years ago
a website can not edit anything? Dumb... you know some about Programming?
point6000x 2 years ago
a web site is a digital "thing". when you edit something you change parts of it to create an overall message/context/censorship that you prefer over the original one.
like sxeqhil who was often critisized for cutting too much. he did so because he wanted to compress or concentrate the awesomeness of his jokes and opinion. there needs to be an "EDITOR".
youtube is merely programmed to convert videos to its technical standards.
NiNm62 2 years ago
the quality is not pc gh fault! the HD is comming in a few minutes, just wait
smartguy9765 2 years ago
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put hd quality, this sux
Urk0ZzZ 2 years ago
wie wär's mit hd auflösung? gerade bei DX11 meiner Meinung nach Sehr wichtig...!
Sache0190 2 years ago
can't see nothing
DevilCry77 2 years ago