@TheJack387 I assume you're talking about just using pressure washer nozzles. I would guess 0F wet bulb temp. With my setup in Georgia USA, I like temps to start at 20F or less and give up when temps raise to 27F with < 60% humidity. Check out my other videos where I'm actually making snow. This was just a test in warm temps.
@TheJack387 The water droplets are too large to freeze at most temperatures before it either hits the ground, or evaporates.
There are 2 'cooling' factors going on here that helps with the process. The 1st is the release of pressure out of the nozzles from the pressure washer. The 2nd is the release of pressure from the compressor. Think of how cold the air is blowing out of a compressor. Very cold. This mix of water+cold air=ice droplets or nuc. Larger water droplets hit nuc=bigger snow.
For the people that are commenting saying i dont wanna buy any 60 dollar nozzles. You dont need to. The ones you want are called teejets Go to snowguns.com and learn the real way to make snow.
And for the maker of the video. Have you ever made snow with it before? If not its because you need at least 3cfm@90psi to make snow and i am prettysure your compressor only does 2 cfm.
Got all the parts, but now the pressure washer. I hav an air compressor. So will a eltric pressure wwasher do (1500psi) its $100 and i dont want to go to expensive with this project.
@TheGman00910 Yes, an electric pressure washer will do just fine making snow ... with a word of caution. The cheaper the component means that it likely won't last as long and may break down after a lot of use. It all depends on how many days you make snow a year and for how many continuous hours per snow session.
Snow making also deals with volume of air and water mixed together. An electric pressure washer may not move as much water (GPM) than a gas one, but it is a great way to start!
@TheGman00910 Sorry dude. To make snow, you need some type of nuc nozzle ... or ... extremely low temps. It's the seed of the ice crystal that gets built upon which creates volume of snow. Believe me, I've tried it with normal nozzles too.
@kcully1 well I looked on other videos. and the two misters have different ones, I dound them cheap online somewhere ($3 each) and for the bottom (the nuc) you can can a brass end and drill a tiny hole in it. It seemed to work great.
@TheGman00910 The nuc nozzle is where the air blows through an ultra fine mist of water creating the nuc. That 90$ nozzle has three tiny holes for an external mixture: 1 water and 2 air. If you could get a tiny air nozzle to blow across a cheap water nozzle, that might work though! Same external mixture. Not sure about the volume of snow created but might be worth a try.
@TheGman00910 I found good misting nozzles at pressureparts . com they worked well so far and you can get them in flat fan which is better than a cone for making snow. Plus they are about $4 and they are NPT thread so they screw right into standard piping!
Hello Buster. Yes, you need a special nozzle to make snow at "warmer" temps. You need a nuc nozzle and they typically cost about $90US. They nucleate the water and mix the freezing air to create nuc which is frozen water micro-drops. This nuc then passes through the fine mist of the other nozzles to bulk up the droplets to make larger volumes of snow. HTH!
@kcully1 hey can you please tell me the degrees of the two upper nozzles and what are you using for the nucleation nozzle and where do i get it thank you
@buster91dg The upper nozzles are 40 degree nozzles. The nuc nozzle is the Sue15b but I can't remember where I ordered it from. I think the nozzle was about $90US. It's the key to snow making at higher temps, meaning +10F. Another tip is to bring all equip inside the night before. That way the hoses and gun starts out warm and is less likely to freeze up on startup.
i have a snow machine that i built from using the free plans at snowathome and i went to the local hardware store and bought 3 misting nozzles but my snow machine never yet has made snow im in the correct web bulb temp to make snow is there a special misting nozzle that i need?
I'm in Georgia, USA. The temp needs to be about 20F with humidity low for us to make snow. This means start getting set up around 6am and start at 7am. By 9am, the wet bulb temp is too high for snow making but I have a really good start by that time of day. Lots of hard work to make snow in Georgia.
we're making it w/ just a compressor and garden hose. just one nossle, small amounts of snow (plenty for what we need).
i know the pressure washer outputs more volume of snow, but why is the compressor still needed in the process? doesn't the power washer kick out enough to go it alone? i'm curious. trying to improve next winter.
@snowj420 The air from the compressor super cools the water causing it to freeze into snow. The type of snowmaker kcully1 is running looks like a combo gun where the one you talked about sounds like a tee-gun which is a pretty simple and inefficient snowmaker. I have a tee-gun and a combo gun. The type of snowmaker doesn't matter at all when it comes to how much snow you make. Just for efficient it is. What matters with how much snow you make if your water flow. I takes about 3 gallons of water
@snowj420 to make a cubic foot of snow. My tee-gun with a 5.5cfm air compressor flows half a gallon of water a minute is my best guess. where my combo gun (I have 4 to run this amount but I will refer to them as 1 unit) Flows 12gpm with a 20cfm air compressor. If your trying to improve your snowmaker I highly recommend taking a visit to snowguns dot com. There is hundreds of pages on snowmakers there. And people that make snow as a hobby all the way to people that work at resorts making snow
@snowj420 And just so you don't ask and make the people on snowguns mad... Snowmaking on the home scale without air is almost impossible. Resorts have snomax which does something to the water (I don't know what) that causes it to freeze easier therefor making it possible to make snow without air. Hope this helps some. Hope to see you on snowguns =)
@jjswimmer2014 I don't get what you mean but it is near impossible to make snow at the home scale without air. People have tried without success. Resorts can do it if it is cold enough.
what i am saying is that you can cool your water to below freezing. witch resorts do. and you are wrong. welch village minnesota this year has new guns that run high presure water and then is shot with a fan so that it has time to cool. NO SUPER COOLING!
@jjswimmer2014 Sounds like a fan gun to me and fan guns look like it is just water being shot by a stream of air. Well there is a nuc nozzle usually located in the middle of the barrel exit which uses air. And that is the part getting super cooled then the water droplets freeze on the nuc droplets making bugger snowflakes. And yes it helps a lot to lower the water temperature. I do that also.
I know how to define a nucleation nozel. and it is not a fan gun. it has no cowling and i am friends with the guy who helped create the machine. there is no nucleation involved, that is why welch has purchased them because they dont need air, luss concerving energy, many resorts in the north east will be moveing on to them soon.
Hello cjdinenojr. Next run I'm going to try lowering the power from the pressure washer. The snow was really fine but I was so happy to be making snow at all that I didn't play with the pressure. I promise, next time.
@kcully1 How cold would it have to be for that to work?
TheJack387 1 month ago
@TheJack387 I assume you're talking about just using pressure washer nozzles. I would guess 0F wet bulb temp. With my setup in Georgia USA, I like temps to start at 20F or less and give up when temps raise to 27F with < 60% humidity. Check out my other videos where I'm actually making snow. This was just a test in warm temps.
kcully1 1 month ago
@TheJack387 28 or lower, the humidity needs to be high as well to make it "better".
MrKyvegas00 1 month ago
Why wont just spraying the pressure washer work?
TheJack387 1 month ago
@TheJack387 The water droplets are too large to freeze at most temperatures before it either hits the ground, or evaporates.
There are 2 'cooling' factors going on here that helps with the process. The 1st is the release of pressure out of the nozzles from the pressure washer. The 2nd is the release of pressure from the compressor. Think of how cold the air is blowing out of a compressor. Very cold. This mix of water+cold air=ice droplets or nuc. Larger water droplets hit nuc=bigger snow.
kcully1 1 month ago
For the people that are commenting saying i dont wanna buy any 60 dollar nozzles. You dont need to. The ones you want are called teejets Go to snowguns.com and learn the real way to make snow.
And for the maker of the video. Have you ever made snow with it before? If not its because you need at least 3cfm@90psi to make snow and i am prettysure your compressor only does 2 cfm.
nzb11 1 month ago
and where is the snow on the ground?
hihihoho1234 11 months ago
Got all the parts, but now the pressure washer. I hav an air compressor. So will a eltric pressure wwasher do (1500psi) its $100 and i dont want to go to expensive with this project.
TheGman00910 1 year ago
@TheGman00910 Yes, an electric pressure washer will do just fine making snow ... with a word of caution. The cheaper the component means that it likely won't last as long and may break down after a lot of use. It all depends on how many days you make snow a year and for how many continuous hours per snow session.
Snow making also deals with volume of air and water mixed together. An electric pressure washer may not move as much water (GPM) than a gas one, but it is a great way to start!
kcully1 1 year ago
Hi, I need serious help. So please, I have everything, but I dont want to buy $60 nozzles! Would home depot have cheap ones. please anything. Thanks!
TheGman00910 1 year ago
@TheGman00910 Sorry dude. To make snow, you need some type of nuc nozzle ... or ... extremely low temps. It's the seed of the ice crystal that gets built upon which creates volume of snow. Believe me, I've tried it with normal nozzles too.
kcully1 1 year ago
@kcully1 well I looked on other videos. and the two misters have different ones, I dound them cheap online somewhere ($3 each) and for the bottom (the nuc) you can can a brass end and drill a tiny hole in it. It seemed to work great.
TheGman00910 1 year ago
@TheGman00910 The nuc nozzle is where the air blows through an ultra fine mist of water creating the nuc. That 90$ nozzle has three tiny holes for an external mixture: 1 water and 2 air. If you could get a tiny air nozzle to blow across a cheap water nozzle, that might work though! Same external mixture. Not sure about the volume of snow created but might be worth a try.
kcully1 1 year ago
@TheGman00910 I found good misting nozzles at pressureparts . com they worked well so far and you can get them in flat fan which is better than a cone for making snow. Plus they are about $4 and they are NPT thread so they screw right into standard piping!
pvaugeois 1 year ago
Hello Buster. Yes, you need a special nozzle to make snow at "warmer" temps. You need a nuc nozzle and they typically cost about $90US. They nucleate the water and mix the freezing air to create nuc which is frozen water micro-drops. This nuc then passes through the fine mist of the other nozzles to bulk up the droplets to make larger volumes of snow. HTH!
kcully1 1 year ago
@kcully1 hey can you please tell me the degrees of the two upper nozzles and what are you using for the nucleation nozzle and where do i get it thank you
buster91dg 1 year ago
@buster91dg The upper nozzles are 40 degree nozzles. The nuc nozzle is the Sue15b but I can't remember where I ordered it from. I think the nozzle was about $90US. It's the key to snow making at higher temps, meaning +10F. Another tip is to bring all equip inside the night before. That way the hoses and gun starts out warm and is less likely to freeze up on startup.
kcully1 1 year ago
i have a snow machine that i built from using the free plans at snowathome and i went to the local hardware store and bought 3 misting nozzles but my snow machine never yet has made snow im in the correct web bulb temp to make snow is there a special misting nozzle that i need?
buster91dg 1 year ago
I'm in Georgia, USA. The temp needs to be about 20F with humidity low for us to make snow. This means start getting set up around 6am and start at 7am. By 9am, the wet bulb temp is too high for snow making but I have a really good start by that time of day. Lots of hard work to make snow in Georgia.
kcully1 1 year ago
where are you and how did it work?
pfun41 1 year ago
we're making it w/ just a compressor and garden hose. just one nossle, small amounts of snow (plenty for what we need).
i know the pressure washer outputs more volume of snow, but why is the compressor still needed in the process? doesn't the power washer kick out enough to go it alone? i'm curious. trying to improve next winter.
snowj420 2 years ago
@snowj420 The air from the compressor super cools the water causing it to freeze into snow. The type of snowmaker kcully1 is running looks like a combo gun where the one you talked about sounds like a tee-gun which is a pretty simple and inefficient snowmaker. I have a tee-gun and a combo gun. The type of snowmaker doesn't matter at all when it comes to how much snow you make. Just for efficient it is. What matters with how much snow you make if your water flow. I takes about 3 gallons of water
PoleVaultTramp 1 year ago
@snowj420 to make a cubic foot of snow. My tee-gun with a 5.5cfm air compressor flows half a gallon of water a minute is my best guess. where my combo gun (I have 4 to run this amount but I will refer to them as 1 unit) Flows 12gpm with a 20cfm air compressor. If your trying to improve your snowmaker I highly recommend taking a visit to snowguns dot com. There is hundreds of pages on snowmakers there. And people that make snow as a hobby all the way to people that work at resorts making snow
PoleVaultTramp 1 year ago
@snowj420 And just so you don't ask and make the people on snowguns mad... Snowmaking on the home scale without air is almost impossible. Resorts have snomax which does something to the water (I don't know what) that causes it to freeze easier therefor making it possible to make snow without air. Hope this helps some. Hope to see you on snowguns =)
PoleVaultTramp 1 year ago
@PoleVaultTramp
well the poor mans fix would be to add salt to the water. but after you do that you have to worry more about curosiv factors of salt water.
jjswimmer2014 1 year ago
@jjswimmer2014 I don't get what you mean but it is near impossible to make snow at the home scale without air. People have tried without success. Resorts can do it if it is cold enough.
PoleVaultTramp 1 year ago
@PoleVaultTramp
what i am saying is that you can cool your water to below freezing. witch resorts do. and you are wrong. welch village minnesota this year has new guns that run high presure water and then is shot with a fan so that it has time to cool. NO SUPER COOLING!
jjswimmer2014 1 year ago
@jjswimmer2014 Sounds like a fan gun to me and fan guns look like it is just water being shot by a stream of air. Well there is a nuc nozzle usually located in the middle of the barrel exit which uses air. And that is the part getting super cooled then the water droplets freeze on the nuc droplets making bugger snowflakes. And yes it helps a lot to lower the water temperature. I do that also.
PoleVaultTramp 1 year ago
@PoleVaultTramp
I know how to define a nucleation nozel. and it is not a fan gun. it has no cowling and i am friends with the guy who helped create the machine. there is no nucleation involved, that is why welch has purchased them because they dont need air, luss concerving energy, many resorts in the north east will be moveing on to them soon.
jjswimmer2014 1 year ago
@jjswimmer2014 Do you have a picture? I would like to see how it works.
PoleVaultTramp 1 year ago
is there any way to lower the amount of water your feeding it
virus56777 2 years ago
less water, less snow
bobchik7872 2 years ago
Hello cjdinenojr. Next run I'm going to try lowering the power from the pressure washer. The snow was really fine but I was so happy to be making snow at all that I didn't play with the pressure. I promise, next time.
kcully1 3 years ago
why are u running shuch a high pressure. i dont know what size bulks ur running but maybe get bigger ones cuz good droplet size is like 500-600psi.
cjdinenojr 3 years ago