The Shock Doctrine

[baronjf0556]

I think this economic recession is is just another "shock" by our own government to lure our attention away from the unjust laws they are trying to pass.

[Knoss]

The problem with this thesis is that in as people on the left like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Che who sought to remake people. By contrast people like Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell argue that human being are flawed and as such institutions must be designed around that. Freidman argued that the government is where greedy men rule over other greedy men, and as such government must be minimal.

[nikkiktamu]

While I admit that this is pretty powerful it takes a higher level thinker to realize that using the juxtaposition of torutre and reganomics is specious and incendiary. Look deeper and you may too see that this documentary is also employing 'shock' to reduce you to child like thinking to that you will immediately accept the ideas proposed without really thinking about it

[divinityblue]

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GREAT COMMENT!

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[Phasoo]

agreed, but stil not something i would shrug off

[divinityblue]

i guess it's a fight fire with fire kinda thing, maybe cuz it's a language the American people have been conditioned to speak best. at any rate, i just want to wake people up & i don't really care if i do it "wrong", nor do i presume to know what the "right" way would be, but for the love of humanity it is time to do something!

"In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing."

- Anon

[nikkiktamu]

yea i totally agree. bravo to you for promoting a dialouge

[divinityblue]

ha ha ^_^

it took me a while to figure out how this thing works!

i wonder if other newbies had as much trouble as i did ^_^

[jama463]

Agreed. They're employing the very techniques they are shunning. Not to say that they aren't bad. But, then again. Maybe humans need to be shocked and desensitized in order to understand it all.

[pipm16]

yay fuck the free market, Oh wait we have never seen a true free market, once a true free market happens then you can argue it ok, p.s. socialism, communism, and fascism have all failed when they were in control. once you let capitalism have a chance let me know cuz it's still waiting to have control

[idnotego]

This is utter crap? Is She trying to say the concept of a Free Market would use gov't to enslave/persecute people? The entire concept of a truely Free Market system (which does not exist in America presently) is a seperation of gov't and the market where upon the gov't does not regulate the market, the citizenry does.

[RP4409]

Thats a trip

[bbburton]

Is she claiming that Friedman was advising gov officials to use natural/man made crisis/disasters to enact policy in order to thwart/violate the Constitution?

[wanckerer]

yes

[Chandlerbin2006]

My god, I hope you aren't buying into this crap. It's flawed on some many levels.

[sifromeire]

Can you elarobate rather than just saying its wrong? Where are the flaws you talk of?

[Chandlerbin2006]

Sure thing. Historically governments almost exclusively promotes government managed markets, espicially in times of crisis. The establishment actually HATES free markets and competition, what they have done for the last 100 years is anything but a free market. For any instance you can show free markets being pushed in America through crisis I'll show you atleast 5 government managed markets. They aren't working to free the market in anyway shape or form, they are looking to control it.

[sifromeire]

Yea but I think this video is saying even though it might be wrong on terminology e.g. "free markets" is that crisis like 911 have aloud the like of Bush to roll out the patriot act. And through out history other governments have implemented control because of these acts of terror which most turn out to be false flag operations done by the government itself.

[Chandlerbin2006]

Yea, and most of that is fine and good, but they gave out a huge dose of disinformation. Mixing a large amount of truth with targeted lies can send good-hearted people off in the wrong direction, making the people destroy their own mechanism of independence and thus their freedom.