Re: Gay Marriage in California - Why Are We So Afraid of Gays?

[KrakowCarpetbagger]

Let me explain fear people feel that you obviously don't get. Once upon a time there was a place called Sodom and Gomorrah that was incinerated not only because of the practice of this vile behavior , but the open acceptance of it.

I guess sane God fearing people have a rational fear of their families and their way of life being trashed because of YOUR disobedience and our acceptance thereof!

[Mysticblue1212]

@KrakowCarpetbagger Well, it really sucks to worship a God that holds you accountable for everyone else when people can hardly be accountable for themselves. When will people understand if you can't be COMPLETELY responsible for your own actions, there is no possible way to take responsibility for others actions and therefore should never be held accountable for others. That is why I say if your God is real, I could never bow down and worship something as evil as that.

[KrakowCarpetbagger]

@Mysticblue1212 I don't think it sucks I happen to agree with the nationalistic theme of "the good of the nation comes before that of the individual" and sorry, you or I don't get to define "evil"! 

[Mysticblue1212]

@KrakowCarpetbagger "You or I don't get to define evil"? So, who does? When the one doing evil acts is the one giving us that defination just doesn't cut it, especially if that is the very one that demands you call him god. If it is more of a "do as I say, not as I do" attitude you are getting from your god, that is usually a major red flag.

[KrakowCarpetbagger]

@Mysticblue1212 ahh the lengths you pevs will go to justify your lawlessness!

[hedleypanama]

@KrakowCarpetbagger Read the bible very carefully and you will see, Amen, 0 zero, not zip gays in Sodom or Gomorrah...

I you DONT BELONG to that mob, you will understand easily its means... "who is this guy who does not not belong to our tribe, trying to judge us" nobody remembers that, that is the quid (not an accesory) of the story!

[thejewishmessiah666]

wow

[vicorii]

I fear that marriage will be redefined so that "choice", not actual kinship, will be the basis for deciding who will and won't be your "family". (The problem being not all of us get to choose equally; some get to be deciders, and others being decided-ons...)

And that children will be treated like commodities to buy & sell.

And that it will be a crime to hold the sacred as "better" than ordinary sleaze. Since those who practice sleaze are trying to force respect.

[MrNodrog9991]

IF the world was a world of fags and queers, it would only take one genreration till you'd kill urself off. It wuld be inerestng to put you all on one island and see how well you would flourish - can you be honest and say and totally gay island would be the best - it would surpass all the world had seen??. I don't hate you, I don't hate anyone. I just don't want shit in my throat just like you wouldn'tlike me to shit in ur mouth.

[MrNodrog9991]

I'm so sure the world would fly straight as an arrow if all it contained was fags and queers - one thing fur shur - yall would kill urself out.

[TheTruthCo]

I appreciate your question, and I would be happy to answer it.

I am "afraid" of teh gays because Hell is not far behind them!

[Mysticblue1212]

@TheTruthCo My hell would be eternity with people like you. So, if there is a hell, we are bound together. Meh, it is your hell, you burn in it.

[salozmen29]

Gay people go against everything religiously and even by creation. We are the only species fucked up enough to be doing this. Even animals know better not to have sex with the same sex. Our society is so fucked up now we have no morals for whats right and whats wrong. Go away all you fags no one likes you.

[Mysticblue1212]

@salozmen29 I am amazed how wonderfully loving your language is for a person of faith. I can just feel the love vibe that Jesus preached about. To be honest, I am wondering just what make you think I or anyone else that has never even met you and probably never will really cares what you think about us? I am sorry Salozmen, you have obviously mistaken me for someone who really cares what you think.

[jdbabyv3]

@salozmen29 lol "the only species fucked up enough to be doing this"??? lol WOW you made this statistic up all by urself did u? Cause if you weren't ignorant bigot, which by ur artful writing who could ever mistake you for one?, you would know that homosexual behavior has been observed in close to 1500 different species, and thats a statistic from 1999 so its most likely a lot higher. So yaaaaaa guess your not to bright hmmm?? have fun living ur ignorant hate filled life ^_^ cheers

[NeeryKenjiro]

This world's sad. Rather pathetic if you ask me. Homosexuality isn't accepted now because people are scared, and ignorant to differences. Racism used to be a problem. It still is. Sexism used to be a problem. It still is. But the two are less common. How come gay people can't live normal lives like the everybody else? We're all perfectly normal. And Love is Love. No matter the genders.

I pity you pathetic simple minded people. Gay is right, and respect thy neighbor.

[cagetiger]

the fact that you argue against non-supporters of gay marriage by stating that they make assumptions about the gay community is rather hypocritical. In your video description the opening statement says "It doesn't matter if your Bible says homosexuality is wrong. The point is not all of us believe in the same religion as you do" Here you are making your own assumptions, just as you stated non-supporters do. I don't support gay marriage at all; however, i am not religious by any means.

[Azazel0the0corruptor]

ah so your just a bigot well that makes it fine

[nodrog9991]

lets all be gay and end humanity.

[Mysticblue1212]

Why does it have to be all or nothing with you people? Shit, with your mind set, why don't you go hunt out people that can't have children due to medical conditions and kill them. Maybe make it illegal to marry anyone because they can't reproduce. There is no way EVERYONE will be gay. There are and always will be people that can and will have kids.

[Mysticblue1212]

I got news for you, if that is all you are concerned about, I am simply gay and don't want to have sex with the oposite sex. It doesn't mean I can't adopt and I can also get artifically inseminated.

[Azazel0the0corruptor]

ya because there are not enough people on the planet WE NEED FUCKING MORE DAMN IT

[LittleQueenTudor]

@nodrog9991

lets all be douchebags like you and bring the world to its ruin.

[bigfaggykitty]

die

[Mysticblue1212]

Sure, anything for you sugar. You first.

[Exsecrabilis]

conti:

Now, the problem about certain people, being pious and all, is their ignorance to know the truth about others outside their own religion, bible, faith, doctrine, social group, etc! They blindly believe that only through their doctrines will other be safe, or accepted as human beings. They pretty much give others the ulternative of either "you join us or you join us!" Not much of a choice there is it?

(2 b cont).

[Exsecrabilis]

cont:

Either way, they have their church to go worship, they have no business prying in others lives. As the saying goes, "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" a similar quote should be applied to such circumstances, "What happens in church should stay in church." there are many people who don't want to hear preachings from other religions, because if they did, would it make more sense that they go to church themselves?

(2 b cont).

[randyschr]

Well said. I think the people who fight gay rights, are actually fighting with their own sexuality. In truth, they'd prefer that all things (and people) gay would just disappear..

I've read that us gay folks are more enlightened, which explains why we don't get why these people resist what *will* happen eventually - gay rights and gay marriage will prevail. Old beliefs always loose - woman's rights and human rights are 2 recent examples. Don't give up, folks. It's happening.

[wtbrad2727]

To put it at a short post gay marriage is an Abomination You dont deserve the right to marry marriage is a sacred bond between man and woman how bout that little lesson

[Philipisgr8]

Why did you turn off your ratings? I would've given you five stars. The more your videos get rated the more popular they will be when people search. :)

[Mysticblue1212]

Thank you for wanting to rate it 5 stars. Unfortunately, I have disabled rateings for all of my videos. There is a fundamentalist Christian running around useing a vote bots as well as false flagging campains to get every Pagan, Athiest, and Agnostic kicked off of You Tube simply because he doesn't feel children should hear what we have to say. He is focusing on the Pagans right now. I am just doing what I can to block his attack. Ya, I know. Pretty pathetic huh?

[MariaRocioProduction]

why is ur camera so slow;  but ur right about this

[gmitch8074]

Wow thats EXACTLY how things like the holocaust happen my friend!!! You must give equal rights to everyone!!! Not just the majority. Its thought patterns like this that start mass genocide ..."oh who cares their just a minority, take their rights" then they take the rights of another minority and another and another...and soon ....u have nothing!

[DrTeddie]

Further to my comment below.

I definately do not think gays should be allowed to breed at all, they are only holding the human race back. Only in extreme circumstances should they be allowed to be parents, such as when a parent of a child dies and a gay person is the next of kin.

How are to go forth and procreate by munching carpet or stabbing fudge???

I do not think gays chose to be gay and in saying that its abvious they are not meant to have offspring.

[invisyblninja]

Gay is nature's way of controlling the population. open your mind, friend.

[gmitch8074]

I don't know if someone as uneducated as your self has done any research or not but the human population is spiraling out of control...as far as "breeding" (first of all your sick to use a term designed for animals when referring to human beings) gays don't procreate in fact most of us end up taking care of babies you strait people can't seem to take responsibility for!!!!!!...

[DrTeddie]

The Definition of life is that you must contain DNA and RNA and you must be able to reproduce, not replicate. Gays (male or female) ARE genetic fuck-ups, this gene was allowed to be passed on because ppl would suppress their feelings in the old days while still breeding. Now it is seen as socially expectable ppl are coming out. I don't think they should be killed or anything like that and I encourage gays to be together, it is the only way we have to breed this genetic defect out.

[Jamez18zt]

Adam and Eve, Adam and Steve or Madam and Eve it makes no difference!, go Dykey!(i mean that with love hehe) LOLZ!

[Belladonna013]

Your mind is like a parachute and a book because they never work unless they're opened!! Brilliant!!

Wonderful video! You are amazing. I am so happy to have found your video's today.

Brightest Blessings!

Lauren

[rextrek]

AFRAID>>? The ONLY reason is RELIGIOUS based! Period!

[Exsecrabilis]

Nuron666:

Not everything has to go by the christian book, Nuron666, and not everyone accept christianity as their faith or guidance. There are more than one faith within and outside the states people may want or not want to join for various factors of reasons. Which ever is the case that is up to them, its their choice, they can't be force to join or abide by their rules. (2 b cont).

[Exsecrabilis]

cont:

In my personal opinion, I don't believe the media has an agenda against the churches as you claim, if you mean to say that because of the media, the morals have decrease to a mere savage point of human life. Business is business, and which ever way they can make money; either through comedy shows, action movies, horror, drama, suspense, porn, its all just business. The only thing a parent can do is block those channels from their own tvs. (2 b cont).

[Exsecrabilis]

cont:

Hold on a bit I need to go get something really quick. Actually I'll get back to you after I get this done.

[Exsecrabilis]

Mysticblue1212:

I don't believe this self-claim-christian fellows really know anything about 'homosexuals' lifestyle other than what they misinterpret from their bibles to justify their means. If only they would stop for a moment and try to converse with them peacefully about anything except religion, then perhaps those self-claims-christians may see that 'homosexuals' are not aliens at all.

P.S. Greetings and Salutations.

[vic7777777777]

prove what you are saying, i need more than what you are saying, i want facts.

[shortkid2827]

Ma'am, I have no fear of gay people. I think they should have the same rights, however, like both candidates, I believe they should have the rights, but not the privilege to call it marriage.

Assumptions will continue as long as there are gay pride parades. You are ugly, but you do homosexual acts in your rooms. It doesn't matter, but you may not call it marriage. Marriage is between a man and a woman. You may love whomever you want, but I don't want you to call it marraige.

[Mysticblue1212]

Homosexuals shouldn't even need "special rights". Call it what you want, they should be able to be joined in a partnership with all the rights and prividledges as marrages. The word "Marrage" has been used in many ways until reciently to describe all kinds of partnerships (some love related and some not) and didn't wasn't necessarly between 1 man and 1 woman. I love all the recient changes and people saying it has always been that way.

[Exsecrabilis]

shortkid2827:

I call it marriage, my good fellow, that is all I see nothing more, now I don't know why you don't want to see it that way, but that is your choice as I have made mine; to see them as couples not as the church, religions or doctrines wants people to see them as. Cappice? Now you can curse and hate me for say this all you want, makes no difference or we can debate this further, your choice.

P.S. Greetings and Saluations.

[occollegeboi]

OH fuck, that was intense. I hear ya' girl! Keep spreading the word!

[bisexualgirl1]

I think gay marriage is OK. I know some of this kind on BiLoves dotcom.

[navvellines15]

I love EVERYONE. :D

[Nuron666]

I personally dont have a problem with gays and gay marriage. I think the problem is the break down in families. Divorce is common now. As a result you have a increase in single parent families. People are turning their backs on christinity, cause people are begining to question the existence of god and to question religion itself. The modern way of liberal thinking is causing problems not only in America but in Europe as well.

[vaasnaad]

It is actually the more Christian nations that have higher divorce rates and more single parent families, while the more modern liberal thinking nations have stronger family units and lower divorce rates. Also look at energy independence, health, prosperity and quality of life and you'll see the same. The modern way of liberal thinking is causing solutions, not problems; unless you're a religious fanatic and have to explain to someone why your positions don't correspond with reality.

[Nuron666]

Vaasnaad I am not religious. I am just observing modern society. Vaasnaad my advice to you is to visit the poor areas in Europe, America. What you will find is a breakdown in families. A increase in drug and alchol abuse. A increase in crime. A increase in single parents. Many of them have abandoned christinity mainly because the media have been drumming negative ideas of christinity for the last 40 years. The end result is, the poor have no sense of purpose. They are just waiting to die.

[Exsecrabilis]

Nuron666:

Its not really the media or 'homosexuality' nor anyone else fault for such misfortunes of the christians but the christians themselves for starting a wildfire they new well they would not be able to handle. Look around and see, lad, see what the self-claim-christians are doing that every eye dissapproove of doing. Look at the hatred they are building! That may be one cause people on why people are leaving.

P.S. Greetings and Salutations.

[Exsecrabilis]

cont:

Not long ago many people have being heavily depress by the way the economy has being heading towards that its not only affecting christians community but everyone else in the states, Nuron666, and its not because they are leaving the christian churches that families are breaking up, its unresolve problems within the family that is breaking them up. Single parents has may come from problems as well. (2 b cont).

[Exsecrabilis]

cont:

For alcoholism, perhaps people can't stop drinking for various factors of reasons, and crime rate, well, its easier to take than buy, but do give me a quota on the crime rates from the past few months with the resource page (not a bigoted christian site) and I'll get back to you on that.

P.S. Peace!

[Nuron666]

Exsecrabilis I am not blaming Homosexuals for the problems of the world. Ever since the 1960's the coming of the Rock n Roll, hippy sex, drugs generation who constantly ridiculed and criticised christianity. The media then started to side with the hippy generation. They started to promote this anti christian ideology to the masses. The media promoted the idea of sex before marriage to the public. As a result people started to turn their backs on marriages, families and so on.

[Exsecrabilis]

Nuron666:

I don't believe 'homosexuals' should be blame for the family break up or questoning the church, in the social community self-claim-christians claim so blindly instead couples should blame themselves for their own problems they can't come to terms with as for the church, well they must be doing something wrong as to make people doubt them. 'homosexuals can't be blame for the problems of others or carry that burden either!

P.S. Greetings and Salutations.

[angelictruth]

I agree with you 100% debbs! Love you!

-ScottY

[vaasnaad]

Again, research shows that in such areas the population is MORE religious than the upper class. So if you insist on claiming religion is an issue, all you are doing is proving that it is the presence of Christianity, not lack, that is causing the family unit to break down. This is, however, not the case. If we are to address the breakdown of the family unit, it is INSANE to do all we can to PREVENT statistically more stable two parent families from having children.

[vaasnaad]

Crap... sorry this was to Nuron666. So as you see, this has nothing to do with religion - religion is a symptom, not a cause. If you insist on dragging Christianity into it not only do you contradict yourself, but you actively work against family stability as you are bringing traditionally irrational anti-gay dogma into the picture even if only by proxy, and eliminating potentially much more stable (not to mention tolerant) two parent family units. We need to leave religion OUT of this IMHO.

[letthemeatcake69]

Gays ARE AWESOME people. I love gay people; they are the most non-biased individuals, and I accept them for who they are.

[rextrek]

If America somehow votes for McCain - they America deserves EVERY bad thing that comes its way.

[FrozenMarshmallows]

I AGREE 100% I do not have any agenda either.

I am also completly sick of anti-homosexual people acusing acusing my of wearing feathers, glitter and leather pants like I am some sort of peacock hybrid, and sleeping with every guy I lay eyes on. I am nothing like what I am described as by the hate groups. BTW a word of advise NEVER tell an evengelical preacher that you are gay. I learned that the hard way when my grandma took me to chruch with her......

[FrozenMarshmallows]

(countinued) when I was 13 that was about 4 in a half years ago and it still sticks with me to this day. Have you ever seen 3 grown men who are and I quote what my grandmother said "Good christian men who I should strive to be like" all gang up on a kid and tell him how much he is going to suffer for all eternity? Let me tell you it is not a pretty sight. Back on subject I do however belive you should vote for someone who would be good for everyone not just your religion.

[Mysticblue1212]

You don't know me very well. I would welcome it. I can become quite confrontational as well. I think it would take more than 3 of them to get the best of me.

[FrozenMarshmallows]

Thats good we need fighters like you in the gay comunity. I have always been more of a quiet keep to myself sort of person I have had an unexplainable people phobia since I was 7 idk why. I am trying to make that change though. I think if I start standing up for myself I can get over this fear. Btw keep up your work here on youtube it is really insperational to hear someone speak their mind like this. Now I need to figure out how to get my stupid built in camera to work so I can make a video lol

[Exsecrabilis]

FrozenMarshmallows:

I believe the gang up of those fools at church in your younger years may have cause that problem of being people phobic. I hope everything is well.

P.S. Greetings and Salutations.

[AnethSvartalf]

All your points are very good. 5 stars for you! I don't have a gay agenda. I have a human agenda, one that matches that of must humans, to be loved and to be happy and to be a good person.

[Mysticblue1212]

Exactly. Thanks for the comment.

[MsDiscord]

Are you kidding me?? Gay people are Uber Scary!

I mean, look at NeoPagan2007 - He is the epitome of Evil!

*gigglesnorts*

And if you believe that, I have some Jello I would like you to juggle >:D

xooxoxoxoxoxo

[psychofantasy2000]

Hmmmmmm...I dunnnno...those Discordians aren't for the faint of heart either....

*does a jello juggling jig*

Wait...I guess the jello in my thighs doesn't count....

XD

[Mysticblue1212]

PSYCHOFANTASY!!!  Long time no see. Where have you been?

[MsDiscord]

I am mesmerised by your thighs, Smarmeh @_@

[Neopagan2007]

I could not have said it better myself! Great vid!

[philip0460]

You are adorable. AMAZING video! I couldn't say it better myself. I should just stop making videos because you always seem to say it better! Thanks for recommending my channel. You simply rock!

[Mysticblue1212]

Gee thanks. You better stop before I get a big head or something. Don't stop makeing videos, I would miss you.

[philip0460]

I would miss you too! Okay, I won't stop making them LOL. Take care and hope your Memorial Day weekend was fun and fantastic!