TJ... you always bring as Call of Duty or Counter Strike as your argument that games are inferior to film or literature... what if I brought up Transformers 3, or the Alvin and the Chipmunks movies as my evidence that film is obviously not art, and I completely ignore the works of Stanley Kubrick, or films like Laurence of Arabia or Citizen Kane? If you have nothing intelligent to say about the video game/art debate, then just don't bring it up.
I don't have a problem with videogames as a form of art but they are not really controversial in addressing political issues, just in being violent. Not that all games are, but there is no videogame that addresses the political state of affairs as far as I know. But I don't play that many different games lately so it might be me.
@lTheGeekyTree Are you really still trying to insult somebody using something he openly admits and even made jokes about? Do you understand that he did that so it's impossible for you to use it as an insult without looking like an utter retard? Well, I guess not.
it's complete idiocy to say video games aren't art. If I stick my finger up my butt and smear the poo on a rock in such a way that is aesthetically pleasing(or even not, any fucking way I want to) I just made art. Also ron paul is about as cenile as you are humble. Otherwise you rock dude, let go of your ego a little bit
This is the first topic that I find myself disagreeing with you. Art is not dying, it's just evolving into something new. This is how it's always been. If da Vinci would be alive today, he wouldn't be painting, he would be on the front trying to create a new art form. The day art stops changing is the day it will die. I recently played a game called Dear Esther, and it did something for me that no other art form could ever do. I wont spoil what it's about, but I can say it is definitively art.
Screw particural game titles. Good game != art. But its like with everything. Literature is art, but it doen't mean that, well closest examples: Youtube comments are art as well. You cannot say: games arent art, cose there are games that REALLY make you think, that create real emotions. Lot of games has stories to tell, very deep ones often, Have beautifull touching music that alone is art in itself. Some has very nice graphic style that is just good to look at (dont mean HD shader FX shit)...
Saying that Call of Duty represents all video games and therefore they are not art, is the same as saying "Well Michael Bay makes movies, I guess that means all movies aren't art."
Two things I've noticed personally: First, the sorts who are rebellious but not terribly bright about it seem to get funneled into numerous "polite rebellions," moderately "acceptable" cliques and fan groups created by media and industry to channel energy away from radicalism (*cough* Juggalos *cough*).
Second, conspiracy theories seem to be traded more freely among those who aren't satisfied with "polite rebellions," to the point where they become viral propaganda to scare them into submission.
Adam lambert is a beast. Hes gay, dresses emoish, is flamboyant at times, creates pop music that borderlines on punk and old glam rock and even has an amazing personality. He is what people should be listening to if they have to listen to pop.
@Nr2reaper That's like saying that a movie contains art but is not art. Both contain technical and artistic elements, but as a whole, both can be experienced as art. I actually find many games to be far more creative and immersive than movies these days, despite the recent cult of 3D.
the statement you make at exactly 6 minutes is obviously the way you think of yourself as well. "This is me! I'm important! Acknowledge it!" The problem is, you're not important. You're typical. And you NEED to acknowledge THAT. Please don't make anymore videos. You are an absolute self-absorbed (and fast food absorbed) TARD of LARD! Now please, shut the fuck up.
ok...for the very first time...out of over 400 worthless videos...you've made a whopper of a point (so I guess all those Whoppers - with extra cheese, no doubt - from Burger King were a good thing). The 9-11 Generation. Bravo. Too bad your point was made a long time ago, by about at least half the planet. The fact that you made the video in the garage says it all. Now do us us all a favor and choke on a taco.
I suppose from a visual standpoint, video games could be considered art. Sure. But are they forms of expression? Do they have meaning? Not really. They're just brainless pastimes.
I actually agree with this. And it's a damn shame that the majority of comments that have been posted have completely ignored the majority of what was said and just harp on the video game comments, and ironically, using a shitty example as their 'evidence' and completely missing the point of what art actually is... And even more so that they're essentially proving your point.
modeling is my passion.. i know what goes into making games like call of duty and world of Warcraft the work that goes into a single level is huge! Its not just a level its someones vision and a group efferent. the people who make throws levels are artists.. just because its popular or that a big company is exploiting the art to make themselves rich docent make it non art if that wore true than movies are not. (i don't like COD or WOW but there still art... just not good art)
video games almost work the same way as music nowadays. Music in the mainstream I don't consider art, same with video games. I don't consider call of duty or world of warcraft art. But that doesn't mean artful video games aren't out there.
@TheAmazingAtheist About games and art, it really can be. Not all games are, in my opinion. But games can be. Look at titles like Trine 2, The Longest Journey / Dreamfall, Half Life 2 (especially the City 17 parts), Braid, Assassin's Creed (especially AC:2) etc. In my opinion there's no question whether they are classifiable as art or not. They are.
I can't actually understand what changed after 9/11 since, as you said, many people like me were children back then and don't remember. I wish I could have just a taste of what it was like... would be cool ;)
(Cont.) When the telephone was invented, it was a mass communication tool. (Party lines, pay phones, etc.) Then every home had one. Then every home had three. Then cell phones came along. Then the PC. Now, they've merged. Art no longer has a social function, because we are only superficially social. It's all about the world I can create for myself, electronically. The only socializing people do now is protests and "days:" Earth Day, etc. We're in a strange place now... very strange.
Let me offer a possible explanation as to why art is dead, at least in the traditional sense you're referring to in this video: All technology has been personalized, and keeps getting more personal, to the point where we all believe we are creating our own art every time we flip an ON switch. Why go to a museum when you can load into your iPhone the paintings you like most and just see those all the time? I don;t condone this attitude, but I hear it from my students all the time. (Cont.)
I have a bone to pick about "video games are not art" and "nobody passes down anything good anymore":
1. Video games tell stories. They're getting better at this sort of thing. They will suck you in. Hell, even I and my knowledge of film history (New Hollywood is best Hollywood) have to agree that L.A. Noire is a piece of art. You using Call of Duty sets yourself up for a straw man.
2. People pass down good things. Hell, that's how the Arcade Fire became popular.
@Benawisan Yes, i totally agree, i've played Portal 1 and it really make you feel fear, real fear. And it also lets you wonder about a really well constructed psychology (GladOS) at the same time you try to solve the puzzles that take you through the game. Also, there are lots of video games that have AMAZING stories, one that comes to my mind is Freelancer, if you actually look at the story, its one of the best sci-fi plots ever, i wish there was a book about it.
@Benawisan But are Portal and Portal 2 really art? Do you take something away from it, can it help shape you as a person? Dont get me wrong I do think games can be art, but Portal is a fantastic game, but I dont think its art. (at least by my definition)
@erti655 Do you remember that video "TheAmazingAtheist" did on America being a "culture of contention" where people will argue over anything a person says? Well, this is a perfect example. I didn't create the "Mona Lisa", Leonardo De Vinci, but I can still Enjoy it as art. "Bioshock" for me, the player, IS art. Thanks.
@Benawisan You're a real gullible fucker to think anything video game related released after 2005~ (or even 2000) is good, It's just the same rehashed bullshit with slight engine upgrades, Even if i agreed with you that portal is good the sheer amount of shit released right now is going to result in a new video game crash, case in point the entire MMO genre, I'd fucking kill to watch some of the huge companies burst 83' style.
@Benawisan so you truley are an ignorant cunt then :L really have to get down to abuse when i made a straight fair point ? hmm gotta think how dumb some people seriously ! i.e you :)
@PinkFloydFan95 and you call that a straight fair point? all you did was insult it without much of an argument. If you really want to see a dumb ignorant cunt, go look in the mirror, assface.
@Benawisan I've seen TJ answering questions about games on formspring and he says that he really enjoys both Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas but beyond that not much else. I don't think he cares enough to explore deeper which I think is fair enough, videogames aren't for everyone.
Video games have the potential to have mindblowing graphics, beautiful music, and genius plots. I think you should do a bit of research instead of using the default "LOOK AT CALL OF DUTY" argument
@PointlessSteel I love how it people think minecraft was an artistic choice, it wasn't. It was necessary for the game to work specially especially since the creator wasn't as rich as he is now to make good graphics for the game. It wasn't a purposeful design choice it just happened to work out well.
But to add to your list there is, pineapple smash crew, shank 1&2, disgaea, god eater.
Video games are ART! Games like Half-Life 2, Skyrim or Stalker are full of emotion and atmosphere. BUT NOT CALL OF DUTY, CALL OF DUTY IS A COMPILATION OF SHOOTING BROWN PEOPLE.
9/100 was a horrible event, not because of the deaths that were caused because very few people died (go to Afghanistan if you want to see people dying and then call 9/11 worse) but because it created a new propaganda. America has always been overly blindly patriotic but 9/11 put everyone in fear. This fear is used to control the the population and its also a distraction and excuse for turning America into an authoritarian shit hole (which its already become)
Even in Canada, we've had a conservative gov't the better part of the last decade - at first, our guy kept us out of Iraq - he legalized gay marriage, and almost pot too.. Neway, Cons come and change a lot of things - the attitude. "Art funding" from govt was going to be heavily restricted because it was according to leader "only for the elitists", that's its only for bored rich ppl so wte.. A lot of ppl think that too, they just don't care really 'artsy fartsy' is what they think
As Chomsky points out time and time again, the 911 that THE CIA DID was far worse than the atrocity we suffered. All perpetrators of BOTH should be raped in that ass with a chocolate banana!
The movie industry seems to be doing nicely. This year audiences responded nicely to movies like drive, the artist, hugo, tree of life and melancholia. These movies has sonewhat big budgets and manages to coexist aside movies like transformers 3. Heck even rise of the planet of the apes had more to offer than one would expect from a blockbuster action movie. And people embraced it.
I used to think that the terrorist thing was happening a lot before 9/11 but nothing had been that bad till then. So i thought that things had been like that for ages.
@HellomynameisN whats amazing about it is, (from what i've heard) the band really didnt have much to do with the movie. i think they were asked if they wanted to participate in it and they said no, much like how Tool's music videos have really nothing to do with the song or band itself, like they are taking someone else's art and making their own version of art and emotion out of it.
I can't believe people think a Picasso or Rembrandt two dimensional painting is more artistic than a game that depicts an entire world that you can be a part of and interact with like Skyrim or WoW.
I swear people D ride old artists just so they can look down their snotty, over educated noses at people who don't.
@packinwood2009 Skyrim and Wow doest not communicate anything valuable or aim to do anything buy distract your mind for a few hours so you dont have to think. Thats the problem.
Shut up about video games already. Even if video games are art, they are only one facet of our culture. He's talking about the overall degeneration of our culture; something that is hard to ignore. Anything of relevance sinks to the bottom and all the garbage floats to the top. To an extent this has always been. Used to be, occasionally something good would find it's way to the surface. Now, it's becoming increasingly difficult to find anything of merit or value in pop culture.
@solarflux Well, there's two things happening as I see it. Things of merit or value are pulling away from pop culture, and pop culture is pushing away things of merit or value. It's largely mutual. People don't need good things to be anywhere other than the internet anymore, so they're fine with every other media being full of shit. Because of that, people who enjoy shit are happier with what's being pushed by the old media. Everyone wins, and everyone loses, kinda.
there was a time when korn and the deftones and the sort of music I listen to was mainstream? :O what happened? why and when did mainstream music turn to shit? I rage about this sort of thing on a daily basis
@downwiththemaster false metal? that's a matter of opinion, and why would I take an obvious troll's advise telling me to self harm? and what made you think I was a kid? and also, since when did having an opinion make me a poser, honestly I like all metal, and if you have a different opinion, I couldn't care less.
I'm sorry TJ but saying video games aren't art because Call of Duty, the most brain dead game on the planet isn't art is ignorant. There are plenty of games that provoke genuine emotions and provide intelligent plots. Games like Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Bioshock, Red Dead Redemption, Mass Effect, Bastion and Portal all provide these things. Using Call of Duty as an example of all video games is like using Transformers as an example of all films.
Art is creating something that people enjoy, really, or something that makes them think, makes emotions go wild. Video games are art, technically, and by most peoples opinions. Halo 3, was an art. Video games are mostly just movies, which you call art, that you can be in. It lets you be the main character in a movie, and do what that person did.
I have a simple suggestion for you to try a game that I see as art, TAA. Just go to google and search up "The Company of Myself". It's a free flash game. I hope this might change your opinions of the artistic potential of video games, but even if it doesn't it's a nice experience you might enjoy.
Video games are the future of art. As they get better and better they will combine almost all other atrs in one. Real actors playing the roles of characters in game like in L.A. Noire , complex and involving storylines by great writers, like in Mass Effect, stunning visuals by great art designers like in The Witcher 2 and breathtaking soundtracks by great musicians like Civ IV's soundtrack that won a grammy, or Leliana's song from Dragon age Origins.
The last time everyone wanted to enjoy art that is beautiful and deep was when Skyrim came out. The fact that you yourself don't acknowledge it doesn't mean it didn't happen or it doesn't somehow count. Look at all the top comments and how people gather to defend something that is dear to their heart. You think their opinion is less relevant compared to the opinion of a person who doesn't even play video games? You are turning into those conservatives refusing to acknowledge the new.
I see people mentioning video games they see as art......So I will too because I want to be awesome!!! I think Jade Empire is a great example of an artistic game. I think it has a beautiful story and game play. I WANTZ MA JADE EMPIRE 2 BIOWARE!!!!!!
Actually, Owl City is just 100% imagination that really has very little to do with planet Earth most of the time. Although if you listen closely his music does have a message. :]
Can't you just accept that there are video games, that could be the new generation of art? You probably haven't played a video game apart from CS or CoD. Stop talking about something that you have absolutely no understanding of, do some research.
You look and sound like a jew to me. And like them, you're doing a pretty good job of muddying the waters and spreading subversive disinfo around. BTW, how are "we" going to re-connect with art when the jews who own the media are the ones who killed it in the first place..dhuh?
Korn and Marilyn Manson are every bit as fake as Lady Gaga and Katy Perry. Anti authoritarian music doesn't infilterate the mainstream anymore because people can see it obviously for what it is-shock value music that teens listen to in order to piss off their conservative parents. We don't get shocked anymore, so nobody cares about it. And violence in video games in movies isn't decreasing; something like the buildings in Fight Club collapsing could most definitely be around in movies nowdays.
This reminds me a disscussion with a friend of mine about how crappy the music this days is , My point was about why there are not bands like Pink Floyd , Black sabbath , Led Zeppelin , and others , todays music is SHIT ,A Big Pile of SHIT
now im confused whether i have a deep "relationship with art" :P and also im pretty sure i think the arts whether its photography, fashion, music or video games(like Zelda :P) is much more important than political shit. and im glad to have heard someone recently say "hey you should look at this persons photography its amazing" and "listen to this song its epic" so ahh yeah.. i dunno xD
Video games are not only art, they are a combination of many different types of art resulting in a sort of meta-art. I can name many that incorporate stunning visual art as well as a masterfully weaved storyline. Provocative, engulfing and trully beautiful. The reason so many ppl do nothing BUT play games is because we have reached a point where reality is disapointing in comparison. People prefer to play the hero in a world they can change rather than fade away in the real one.
Games, or any entertainment, are art. No those shitty overrated FPS's though. I can only say a few are, like Halo and Half life, because of their amazing storytelling and narrative.
@GrimInstincts I agree that Half life belongs in the art category, but Halo was very overrated. It was just your basic "Aliens R Bad" story that had the emotional and intellectual depth of a spoon. Even "Halo: Reach" with it's "emphasis" on characterization was pretty damn sterile and poorly executed... At least I thought that it was.
@stupenderifous It's not just the games, it's the mythos surrounding them. If you look at the Halo Universe, it's more than just running and gunning and killing evil aliens, it tells of a story about Conflict and the many stages of it. Maybe Halo is overrated, but it is still an interesting series.
@TheGameBreak100 I have read a few of the Halo books and that does help to expand the Halo Universe, but the games are (or should be) the most integral part of this universe. And the games just fall flat for me.
Hiroshima? Hmm....you do have a point. But let's not start poking at these historical contexts. There is never a good precedent when innocent lives are taken.
Games are art. Using Call of Duty to represent all games is like using Justin Bieber to represent all music.
Play Ico, Katamari, Shadow of the Colossus, Heavy Rain, Mass Effect, Limbo, Braid, Okami, etc. There are thousands of games that most people would consider art, you are simply using a mindless multiplayer shooter to support your argument.
I would Call Of Duty is definitely art if those are. I don't mean that "Mindless Multiplayer Shooter" aspect of it. Which I completely agree with you, the developers seem to support mindless multiplayer BUT the storyline of the CoD campaign inspires a lot of emotion, tells a deep connected storyline, and has displayed a VERY strong anti-war message since Finest Hour came out. CoD is not the Justin Beiber of VGs. VGs are art, but too bad most players don't care about the art aspect.
@WeEatBrainz But then again, he did say "at least not in the mainstream" about music, and I think that is relevant in the case of games as well. I love games but I dont see anything with a big audience being more than just entertainment.
Hey TJ,PLEASE DONT THINK I'M AM ASSHOLE, PLEASE. I know you are entitled to your opinion but, I have to disagree with you on your opinion of lady gaga, what i got from it is that you don't find any artistic significance in her work. Not I'm not sure if you have listen to her most recent work, but listen to her song "Born This Way". it involves gay rights and i think you might change your opinion after listing to it. or not, it's up to you. keep up the great work. love the vids. -Mike
I think art shouldn't always be about "the current issues" ... at the moment it seems like everyone is moving towards that ... kind of reminds me of the 60s (hippies) or early 80s (punks). It seems the options are mindless decadence or reactionary art. I personally think art should be about those timeless, universal things that people relate to. Like the tragedy of existence, the beauty of form or colour ... Art that elevates us, not about the current Government or how they're screwing us.
Totally agree ...I think it's probably got to do with the the fact that we have been numbed by ease of entertainment ... if it doesn't instantly gratify,we switch the channel. We are slowing conditioning ourself to be stupid and lazy. Mainstream entertainment gives us exactly what we want, it's too dangerous to give us something new and thought-provoking ... the rating will drop. They supply us with an opiate... Many just want to eat and sleep ... thinking and work is done if need be.
stop putting fps as an example when there is big games that u can explore with good music, story lines its like a interactive movie, some stuff is shit but thats always how it is.. :p
Video games are art. I will always disagree with The Amazing Atheist about this, because he simply doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, and doesn't care to know what he's talking about. His examples are all multiplayer FPS games; of course Call of Duty isn't artistic, because it's not trying to be. But how the fuck is Half Life 2 not art? How the fuck is Shadow of the Colossus not art? How is Bastion not art? They meet up with his own given definition of what art is.
lmao 'the deftones' they werent on motown records rofl
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TJ... you always bring as Call of Duty or Counter Strike as your argument that games are inferior to film or literature... what if I brought up Transformers 3, or the Alvin and the Chipmunks movies as my evidence that film is obviously not art, and I completely ignore the works of Stanley Kubrick, or films like Laurence of Arabia or Citizen Kane? If you have nothing intelligent to say about the video game/art debate, then just don't bring it up.
DarkZekeX 12 hours ago
Big Tits are art... I enjoy looking at them...if only there was a gallery
kuroneko2788 16 hours ago
@Mamonuth You havent heard of an example before, have you?
Desparado8936 20 hours ago
How to completely fuck up a country for over a decade, in such a way that it might never recover: Fly a plane into it.
scoreunder 1 day ago
When your only example of a game is Call of Duty don't even bother trying to argue that games aren't art.
Mamonuth 1 day ago
I don't have a problem with videogames as a form of art but they are not really controversial in addressing political issues, just in being violent. Not that all games are, but there is no videogame that addresses the political state of affairs as far as I know. But I don't play that many different games lately so it might be me.
SwartKoos 2 days ago
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Adults are always telling me about pre 9/11. It sounds like a wonderful time...
JosephVStallion 2 days ago
I have Radiohead.
DDazzle1 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
FUCK THE PMRC!!!
oyhe94 4 days ago
Everyone is stuck on his thought about video games. The video isn't about that
thecriticaldude 4 days ago
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lTheGeekyTree 4 days ago
@lTheGeekyTree What does that have to do with anything?
invisiblepopcornmonk 4 days ago
@invisiblepopcornmonk it's the "big "omg leaked video" thing..
check BANANAGATE 2011 by him (TheAmazingAtheist), I am
quita sure spamming "Banana" would be about that ..and yes
still as meaningles stupidity and probably just attention-h****g.
RHProductionsII 4 days ago
@invisiblepopcornmonk aaand too late I realise to check
your videos and you are very well knowing about it ^^'
sorry for wasting your time there.
RHProductionsII 4 days ago
@lTheGeekyTree Are you really still trying to insult somebody using something he openly admits and even made jokes about? Do you understand that he did that so it's impossible for you to use it as an insult without looking like an utter retard? Well, I guess not.
oBLACKIECHANoo 3 days ago
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lTheGeekyTree 3 days ago
it's complete idiocy to say video games aren't art. If I stick my finger up my butt and smear the poo on a rock in such a way that is aesthetically pleasing(or even not, any fucking way I want to) I just made art. Also ron paul is about as cenile as you are humble. Otherwise you rock dude, let go of your ego a little bit
TheCouxle 4 days ago
This is the first topic that I find myself disagreeing with you. Art is not dying, it's just evolving into something new. This is how it's always been. If da Vinci would be alive today, he wouldn't be painting, he would be on the front trying to create a new art form. The day art stops changing is the day it will die. I recently played a game called Dear Esther, and it did something for me that no other art form could ever do. I wont spoil what it's about, but I can say it is definitively art.
fredhno 4 days ago
@fredhno yeah i know what u mean about dear esther, if thats not art i dont know what is
nagamasa17 3 days ago
Well I did my best :p. Not on videogames though.
SwartKoos 5 days ago
Screw particural game titles. Good game != art. But its like with everything. Literature is art, but it doen't mean that, well closest examples: Youtube comments are art as well. You cannot say: games arent art, cose there are games that REALLY make you think, that create real emotions. Lot of games has stories to tell, very deep ones often, Have beautifull touching music that alone is art in itself. Some has very nice graphic style that is just good to look at (dont mean HD shader FX shit)...
Thorinbur 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Call Of Duty now is everything? Shitty generalization.
YorianSevenfold 1 week ago
Saying that Call of Duty represents all video games and therefore they are not art, is the same as saying "Well Michael Bay makes movies, I guess that means all movies aren't art."
teakgheh31 1 week ago 2
Games aren't art? Dear Esther. Look it up.
juggernaut725 1 week ago
Two things I've noticed personally: First, the sorts who are rebellious but not terribly bright about it seem to get funneled into numerous "polite rebellions," moderately "acceptable" cliques and fan groups created by media and industry to channel energy away from radicalism (*cough* Juggalos *cough*).
Second, conspiracy theories seem to be traded more freely among those who aren't satisfied with "polite rebellions," to the point where they become viral propaganda to scare them into submission.
Threetails 1 week ago
Adam lambert is a beast. Hes gay, dresses emoish, is flamboyant at times, creates pop music that borderlines on punk and old glam rock and even has an amazing personality. He is what people should be listening to if they have to listen to pop.
TheDNDGEEK 1 week ago
games contain art, they are not art
Nr2reaper 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Nr2reaper That's like saying that a movie contains art but is not art. Both contain technical and artistic elements, but as a whole, both can be experienced as art. I actually find many games to be far more creative and immersive than movies these days, despite the recent cult of 3D.
SLRist 1 week ago
What is the name of the outro song?
fonkymaster 1 week ago
You want beautiful and relevant?
Listen to the Beatles.
thejoachimk 1 week ago
the statement you make at exactly 6 minutes is obviously the way you think of yourself as well. "This is me! I'm important! Acknowledge it!" The problem is, you're not important. You're typical. And you NEED to acknowledge THAT. Please don't make anymore videos. You are an absolute self-absorbed (and fast food absorbed) TARD of LARD! Now please, shut the fuck up.
worldphilosopher101 1 week ago
ok...for the very first time...out of over 400 worthless videos...you've made a whopper of a point (so I guess all those Whoppers - with extra cheese, no doubt - from Burger King were a good thing). The 9-11 Generation. Bravo. Too bad your point was made a long time ago, by about at least half the planet. The fact that you made the video in the garage says it all. Now do us us all a favor and choke on a taco.
worldphilosopher101 1 week ago
Games art ... maybe yeah .. FF7 made a revolution . so this is my point
65465468 1 week ago
Shut the fuck up about fucking video games. IT'S NOT RELEVANT.
InSingularity 1 week ago
@InSingularity Video games are art.
SkilledCivilian 1 week ago
Eh.
I suppose from a visual standpoint, video games could be considered art. Sure. But are they forms of expression? Do they have meaning? Not really. They're just brainless pastimes.
So, more or less I suppose.
ValtronW 1 week ago
I agree.
InSingularity 1 week ago
Lieberman was also behind the joint hearings of 1993 where they put SEGA on trial for marketing violence to kids. Asshole.
krakatoa0mikel 1 week ago
I actually agree with this. And it's a damn shame that the majority of comments that have been posted have completely ignored the majority of what was said and just harp on the video game comments, and ironically, using a shitty example as their 'evidence' and completely missing the point of what art actually is... And even more so that they're essentially proving your point.
misschloe3353 1 week ago
Games are art. Skyrim.
DalueCommentarys 1 week ago
@DalueCommentarys Lol, Skyrim. Perfect example of a series that started out great and became progressively worse with each title.
misschloe3353 1 week ago
Okami - art. =w= That is definitely a video game that's artful.
AmayahUchiha 1 week ago
modeling is my passion.. i know what goes into making games like call of duty and world of Warcraft the work that goes into a single level is huge! Its not just a level its someones vision and a group efferent. the people who make throws levels are artists.. just because its popular or that a big company is exploiting the art to make themselves rich docent make it non art if that wore true than movies are not. (i don't like COD or WOW but there still art... just not good art)
DrSpecialBrown 1 week ago in playlist The Amazing Atheist Playlist #2
video games almost work the same way as music nowadays. Music in the mainstream I don't consider art, same with video games. I don't consider call of duty or world of warcraft art. But that doesn't mean artful video games aren't out there.
o0ZporK0o 1 week ago
@TheAmazingAtheist About games and art, it really can be. Not all games are, in my opinion. But games can be. Look at titles like Trine 2, The Longest Journey / Dreamfall, Half Life 2 (especially the City 17 parts), Braid, Assassin's Creed (especially AC:2) etc. In my opinion there's no question whether they are classifiable as art or not. They are.
Lleanlleawrg 1 week ago in playlist Flere videoer fra TheAmazingAtheist
I can't actually understand what changed after 9/11 since, as you said, many people like me were children back then and don't remember. I wish I could have just a taste of what it was like... would be cool ;)
TheItalianGamer1996 1 week ago
Them a lot of types of games for me CoD is not art, but games like Trine 2 are.
Attempt to find a video of Trine 2 preferably in HD
Athrosus 1 week ago
haha im 17 and i dont remember a time without America hating Muslims
Hubbdog75 1 week ago
9/11 was funny
wet6u3576 2 weeks ago in playlist More videos from TheAmazingAtheist
The Amazing Atheist is Art.
creosotegirl 2 weeks ago
(Cont.) When the telephone was invented, it was a mass communication tool. (Party lines, pay phones, etc.) Then every home had one. Then every home had three. Then cell phones came along. Then the PC. Now, they've merged. Art no longer has a social function, because we are only superficially social. It's all about the world I can create for myself, electronically. The only socializing people do now is protests and "days:" Earth Day, etc. We're in a strange place now... very strange.
wolfwilliams 2 weeks ago
Let me offer a possible explanation as to why art is dead, at least in the traditional sense you're referring to in this video: All technology has been personalized, and keeps getting more personal, to the point where we all believe we are creating our own art every time we flip an ON switch. Why go to a museum when you can load into your iPhone the paintings you like most and just see those all the time? I don;t condone this attitude, but I hear it from my students all the time. (Cont.)
wolfwilliams 2 weeks ago
I have a bone to pick about "video games are not art" and "nobody passes down anything good anymore":
1. Video games tell stories. They're getting better at this sort of thing. They will suck you in. Hell, even I and my knowledge of film history (New Hollywood is best Hollywood) have to agree that L.A. Noire is a piece of art. You using Call of Duty sets yourself up for a straw man.
2. People pass down good things. Hell, that's how the Arcade Fire became popular.
Malkmusianful 2 weeks ago
@Malkmusianful i agree some video games can be art, just like movies. but not all video games are art such as CoD. just like not all movies are art.
Umedark 2 weeks ago
"Censorship is telling a man he can't have steak just because a baby can't chew it"- Mark Twaine
TheDUDE101GOOD 2 weeks ago
a story is art however it is told. if zombies are a part of that than it just makes that interesting.
themegaradical 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
youtube art??
puff420x 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Lady Gaga, what a POS fake guido from NYC. I hate her with a passion.
DawnOfTheDead991 2 weeks ago
I miss Cody.
IITallikaII 2 weeks ago
Games arent art? Please try playing Portal and Portal 2 and then try tell us they arent art.
Benawisan 2 weeks ago 25
@Benawisan Precisely! He needs to get more into it before arguing.
fabaum22 2 weeks ago
@Benawisan Yes, i totally agree, i've played Portal 1 and it really make you feel fear, real fear. And it also lets you wonder about a really well constructed psychology (GladOS) at the same time you try to solve the puzzles that take you through the game. Also, there are lots of video games that have AMAZING stories, one that comes to my mind is Freelancer, if you actually look at the story, its one of the best sci-fi plots ever, i wish there was a book about it.
alelp 2 weeks ago
@Benawisan But are Portal and Portal 2 really art? Do you take something away from it, can it help shape you as a person? Dont get me wrong I do think games can be art, but Portal is a fantastic game, but I dont think its art. (at least by my definition)
MuffintopWarrior 1 week ago
@Benawisan Or "Bioshock"..
WJValente 1 week ago 14
@WJValente or Half Life...
danin900 1 week ago
@WJValente well its art for the people who made but it's not art for you to play it. The action you do to play the game isn't art.
erti655 1 week ago
@erti655 Do you remember that video "TheAmazingAtheist" did on America being a "culture of contention" where people will argue over anything a person says? Well, this is a perfect example. I didn't create the "Mona Lisa", Leonardo De Vinci, but I can still Enjoy it as art. "Bioshock" for me, the player, IS art. Thanks.
WJValente 1 week ago
@Benawisan You're a real gullible fucker to think anything video game related released after 2005~ (or even 2000) is good, It's just the same rehashed bullshit with slight engine upgrades, Even if i agreed with you that portal is good the sheer amount of shit released right now is going to result in a new video game crash, case in point the entire MMO genre, I'd fucking kill to watch some of the huge companies burst 83' style.
micshaz 1 week ago
@Benawisan A better example would be Bioshock, but I agree with you.
TheAnimusification 1 week ago
@Benawisan
Forget that.
Look at Okami. THAT is art.
VampedIron 1 week ago
@Benawisan still just a dumb video game tht has no meaning afterwards
PinkFloydFan95 1 week ago
@PinkFloydFan95 same as the sex that led your mother to being pregnant with you.
Benawisan 1 week ago
@Benawisan so you truley are an ignorant cunt then :L really have to get down to abuse when i made a straight fair point ? hmm gotta think how dumb some people seriously ! i.e you :)
PinkFloydFan95 1 week ago
@PinkFloydFan95 and you call that a straight fair point? all you did was insult it without much of an argument. If you really want to see a dumb ignorant cunt, go look in the mirror, assface.
Benawisan 1 week ago
@Benawisan and Street Fighter 4, practicaly paint fighters
Arectaborga 1 week ago
@Benawisan or red dead redemption
redmenace166 6 days ago
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punishalltrolls 5 days ago
@Benawisan Or Yume Nikki! :D
SuperFlameRing 5 days ago
@Benawisan I've seen TJ answering questions about games on formspring and he says that he really enjoys both Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas but beyond that not much else. I don't think he cares enough to explore deeper which I think is fair enough, videogames aren't for everyone.
MondaysHurtMe 2 days ago 3
@MondaysHurtMe i'd sure would like to see a Let's Play of Fallout 3 or New Vegas w/ TAA
Benawisan 2 days ago
Video games have the potential to have mindblowing graphics, beautiful music, and genius plots. I think you should do a bit of research instead of using the default "LOOK AT CALL OF DUTY" argument
fezzyfay 2 weeks ago
@fezzyfay A few games that come to mind with artistic graphics: Minecraft, Skyrim, Crysis (2), Voxelbox...
PointlessSteel 2 weeks ago
@PointlessSteel I love how it people think minecraft was an artistic choice, it wasn't. It was necessary for the game to work specially especially since the creator wasn't as rich as he is now to make good graphics for the game. It wasn't a purposeful design choice it just happened to work out well.
But to add to your list there is, pineapple smash crew, shank 1&2, disgaea, god eater.
zenonzazira 2 weeks ago
Video games are ART! Games like Half-Life 2, Skyrim or Stalker are full of emotion and atmosphere. BUT NOT CALL OF DUTY, CALL OF DUTY IS A COMPILATION OF SHOOTING BROWN PEOPLE.
LolTacular01 2 weeks ago
@LolTacular01 brown people?
DawnOfTheDead991 2 weeks ago
Also video games are a form of art, its just that theres a different between good art and bad art for example
justin bieber=COD
the beatles=assasins creed
everything has its good and bad its just that video games are a new form of bad
ANIOLATORV 2 weeks ago
9/100 was a horrible event, not because of the deaths that were caused because very few people died (go to Afghanistan if you want to see people dying and then call 9/11 worse) but because it created a new propaganda. America has always been overly blindly patriotic but 9/11 put everyone in fear. This fear is used to control the the population and its also a distraction and excuse for turning America into an authoritarian shit hole (which its already become)
ANIOLATORV 2 weeks ago
Taking cod as the example for video games ? , then take a 5 year old kid'd painting as the example for art please.
machielste1 3 weeks ago
Even in Canada, we've had a conservative gov't the better part of the last decade - at first, our guy kept us out of Iraq - he legalized gay marriage, and almost pot too.. Neway, Cons come and change a lot of things - the attitude. "Art funding" from govt was going to be heavily restricted because it was according to leader "only for the elitists", that's its only for bored rich ppl so wte.. A lot of ppl think that too, they just don't care really 'artsy fartsy' is what they think
belmontsmild 3 weeks ago
Beautiful pro-art argument...its almost...artistic
rob1993zombie 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from TheAmazingAtheist
As Chomsky points out time and time again, the 911 that THE CIA DID was far worse than the atrocity we suffered. All perpetrators of BOTH should be raped in that ass with a chocolate banana!
tstruss912 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
My friend is born September 11th, 2001 :(
AleksandarDaGr8 3 weeks ago
@AleksandarDaGr8 wtf is an 11 year old doing on youtube
XanithTheSilencer 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
The movie industry seems to be doing nicely. This year audiences responded nicely to movies like drive, the artist, hugo, tree of life and melancholia. These movies has sonewhat big budgets and manages to coexist aside movies like transformers 3. Heck even rise of the planet of the apes had more to offer than one would expect from a blockbuster action movie. And people embraced it.
thepezdispenser 3 weeks ago
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thepezdispenser 3 weeks ago
I used to think that the terrorist thing was happening a lot before 9/11 but nothing had been that bad till then. So i thought that things had been like that for ages.
Plasticplas1 4 weeks ago
pink floyd the wall movie was the greatest piece of art I've ever seen.
HellomynameisN 4 weeks ago
@HellomynameisN whats amazing about it is, (from what i've heard) the band really didnt have much to do with the movie. i think they were asked if they wanted to participate in it and they said no, much like how Tool's music videos have really nothing to do with the song or band itself, like they are taking someone else's art and making their own version of art and emotion out of it.
TenaciousleeFTW 4 weeks ago
@TenaciousleeFTW I don't know, but that movie was powerful.
HellomynameisN 4 weeks ago
I can't believe people think a Picasso or Rembrandt two dimensional painting is more artistic than a game that depicts an entire world that you can be a part of and interact with like Skyrim or WoW.
I swear people D ride old artists just so they can look down their snotty, over educated noses at people who don't.
packinwood2009 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheAmazingAtheist
@packinwood2009 Have you seen Picasso's art?
SunnyHappy2008 3 weeks ago
@packinwood2009 Skyrim and Wow doest not communicate anything valuable or aim to do anything buy distract your mind for a few hours so you dont have to think. Thats the problem.
modplugrad 3 weeks ago
@packinwood2009 Bad examples using skyrim and wow though skyrim is FUN but doesn't quite fit as story telling or beauty in the sense of art
zenonzazira 2 weeks ago
Shut up about video games already. Even if video games are art, they are only one facet of our culture. He's talking about the overall degeneration of our culture; something that is hard to ignore. Anything of relevance sinks to the bottom and all the garbage floats to the top. To an extent this has always been. Used to be, occasionally something good would find it's way to the surface. Now, it's becoming increasingly difficult to find anything of merit or value in pop culture.
solarflux 1 month ago
@solarflux Well, there's two things happening as I see it. Things of merit or value are pulling away from pop culture, and pop culture is pushing away things of merit or value. It's largely mutual. People don't need good things to be anywhere other than the internet anymore, so they're fine with every other media being full of shit. Because of that, people who enjoy shit are happier with what's being pushed by the old media. Everyone wins, and everyone loses, kinda.
Maynardftw 1 month ago
It Michael Bays fault
TheClassicApple 1 month ago
there was a time when korn and the deftones and the sort of music I listen to was mainstream? :O what happened? why and when did mainstream music turn to shit? I rage about this sort of thing on a daily basis
soadfan700 1 month ago
@soadfan700 no it sucked then posers like yourself keep on listing to false metal like korn and all that metalcore crap slit your wrists dumbass kid
downwiththemaster 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@downwiththemaster false metal? that's a matter of opinion, and why would I take an obvious troll's advise telling me to self harm? and what made you think I was a kid? and also, since when did having an opinion make me a poser, honestly I like all metal, and if you have a different opinion, I couldn't care less.
soadfan700 1 month ago
@soadfan700 lulz
downwiththemaster 1 month ago
RAGE
94Cioppa 1 month ago
I'm sorry TJ but saying video games aren't art because Call of Duty, the most brain dead game on the planet isn't art is ignorant. There are plenty of games that provoke genuine emotions and provide intelligent plots. Games like Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Bioshock, Red Dead Redemption, Mass Effect, Bastion and Portal all provide these things. Using Call of Duty as an example of all video games is like using Transformers as an example of all films.
The360gamerzz 1 month ago
Games CAN be art. Very few games, but they can be.
Northernmight 1 month ago
The first Gulf war had better production values.
hamnose 1 month ago
Video games aren't art? Overgrowth.
superuber27 1 month ago
Art is creating something that people enjoy, really, or something that makes them think, makes emotions go wild. Video games are art, technically, and by most peoples opinions. Halo 3, was an art. Video games are mostly just movies, which you call art, that you can be in. It lets you be the main character in a movie, and do what that person did.
dolerbom 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
What happened to Cody?
LethalLeftEye 1 month ago
I have a simple suggestion for you to try a game that I see as art, TAA. Just go to google and search up "The Company of Myself". It's a free flash game. I hope this might change your opinions of the artistic potential of video games, but even if it doesn't it's a nice experience you might enjoy.
SheleKnights 1 month ago
Video games are the future of art. As they get better and better they will combine almost all other atrs in one. Real actors playing the roles of characters in game like in L.A. Noire , complex and involving storylines by great writers, like in Mass Effect, stunning visuals by great art designers like in The Witcher 2 and breathtaking soundtracks by great musicians like Civ IV's soundtrack that won a grammy, or Leliana's song from Dragon age Origins.
Mement0o 1 month ago
The last time everyone wanted to enjoy art that is beautiful and deep was when Skyrim came out. The fact that you yourself don't acknowledge it doesn't mean it didn't happen or it doesn't somehow count. Look at all the top comments and how people gather to defend something that is dear to their heart. You think their opinion is less relevant compared to the opinion of a person who doesn't even play video games? You are turning into those conservatives refusing to acknowledge the new.
Mement0o 1 month ago
Of course "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare" isn't art. They barely put any effort into it at all, anymore; art requires effort.
spanishax 1 month ago
Fascinating.
I never looked at 9/11 as the tipping point for the encroachment of conservatism on mainstream society.
Since the 60s it's been a fairly good run of socially liberal values.
Does Obama represent a return to a Social Renaissance?
UniversalPotentate 1 month ago 11
@UniversalPotentate
After protect IP & SOPA, & NDA 2012; I don't think so...
KINGBADASS100 1 month ago
@KINGBADASS100 Yeah. I agree with you.
I will say that his policies have seemed to be a mix of liberal and conservative ideas.
NDAA came with a signing statement, though I'm still not clear as to what the "trade off" was. Obama likes his trade offs.
I fully expect PIPA and SOPA to be legislatively reincarnated.
However, the fear-mongering of The War on Terror and Al Qaeda is disappearing.
It's not that Obama will facilitate an Renaissance. It's that he marks one.
UniversalPotentate 1 month ago
I see people mentioning video games they see as art......So I will too because I want to be awesome!!! I think Jade Empire is a great example of an artistic game. I think it has a beautiful story and game play. I WANTZ MA JADE EMPIRE 2 BIOWARE!!!!!!
CorkPhop 1 month ago
@CorkPhop
thejokerclarke 1 month ago
Actually, Owl City is just 100% imagination that really has very little to do with planet Earth most of the time. Although if you listen closely his music does have a message. :]
RobotnikHotCakes9000 1 month ago
@RobotnikHotCakes9000 owl city is the shit floating in a sea of urine when it comes to music today it sucks so bad it makes other stuff seem good
thejokerclarke 1 month ago
Two Words: Owl City. ;]
RobotnikHotCakes9000 1 month ago
Can't you just accept that there are video games, that could be the new generation of art? You probably haven't played a video game apart from CS or CoD. Stop talking about something that you have absolutely no understanding of, do some research.
Liurix945 1 month ago
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TobyReps15 1 month ago
You look and sound like a jew to me. And like them, you're doing a pretty good job of muddying the waters and spreading subversive disinfo around. BTW, how are "we" going to re-connect with art when the jews who own the media are the ones who killed it in the first place..dhuh?
joessoap 1 month ago
Korn and Marilyn Manson are every bit as fake as Lady Gaga and Katy Perry. Anti authoritarian music doesn't infilterate the mainstream anymore because people can see it obviously for what it is-shock value music that teens listen to in order to piss off their conservative parents. We don't get shocked anymore, so nobody cares about it. And violence in video games in movies isn't decreasing; something like the buildings in Fight Club collapsing could most definitely be around in movies nowdays.
psudeoaccount 1 month ago
Perfect example of the only thing we have to fear is fear itself
ps3xpert 1 month ago
This reminds me a disscussion with a friend of mine about how crappy the music this days is , My point was about why there are not bands like Pink Floyd , Black sabbath , Led Zeppelin , and others , todays music is SHIT ,A Big Pile of SHIT
EdyMar77 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
this guy needs to play mass effect...if that's not art i don't know what is
StubblyVlog 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
now im confused whether i have a deep "relationship with art" :P and also im pretty sure i think the arts whether its photography, fashion, music or video games(like Zelda :P) is much more important than political shit. and im glad to have heard someone recently say "hey you should look at this persons photography its amazing" and "listen to this song its epic" so ahh yeah.. i dunno xD
lala7haha 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Video games are not only art, they are a combination of many different types of art resulting in a sort of meta-art. I can name many that incorporate stunning visual art as well as a masterfully weaved storyline. Provocative, engulfing and trully beautiful. The reason so many ppl do nothing BUT play games is because we have reached a point where reality is disapointing in comparison. People prefer to play the hero in a world they can change rather than fade away in the real one.
Razomir 2 months ago
im a christian i just listen because hes funny
666slipknotmetalhead 2 months ago
@666slipknotmetalhead im a Muslim and i have the same reason :D
ThEuNkNoWn9999999 2 months ago
I miss his luscious beard so much
jared201345 2 months ago
Games, or any entertainment, are art. No those shitty overrated FPS's though. I can only say a few are, like Halo and Half life, because of their amazing storytelling and narrative.
GrimInstincts 2 months ago
@GrimInstincts I agree that Half life belongs in the art category, but Halo was very overrated. It was just your basic "Aliens R Bad" story that had the emotional and intellectual depth of a spoon. Even "Halo: Reach" with it's "emphasis" on characterization was pretty damn sterile and poorly executed... At least I thought that it was.
stupenderifous 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@stupenderifous It's not just the games, it's the mythos surrounding them. If you look at the Halo Universe, it's more than just running and gunning and killing evil aliens, it tells of a story about Conflict and the many stages of it. Maybe Halo is overrated, but it is still an interesting series.
TheGameBreak100 1 month ago
@TheGameBreak100 I have read a few of the Halo books and that does help to expand the Halo Universe, but the games are (or should be) the most integral part of this universe. And the games just fall flat for me.
stupenderifous 1 month ago
Hiroshima > 9/11
AzusaNakano1969 2 months ago
@AzusaNakano1969
Hiroshima? Hmm....you do have a point. But let's not start poking at these historical contexts. There is never a good precedent when innocent lives are taken.
AceofDlamonds 2 months ago
Skyrim is art~!
goodfty 2 months ago 2
Games are art. Using Call of Duty to represent all games is like using Justin Bieber to represent all music.
Play Ico, Katamari, Shadow of the Colossus, Heavy Rain, Mass Effect, Limbo, Braid, Okami, etc. There are thousands of games that most people would consider art, you are simply using a mindless multiplayer shooter to support your argument.
WeEatBrainz 2 months ago 56
@WeEatBrainz
not sure if trollin or just retarded
ThePunisherNWO 1 month ago
@WeEatBrainz TRUEEEEEE !!!!!!
InToTheBlue71 1 month ago
@WeEatBrainz
I would Call Of Duty is definitely art if those are. I don't mean that "Mindless Multiplayer Shooter" aspect of it. Which I completely agree with you, the developers seem to support mindless multiplayer BUT the storyline of the CoD campaign inspires a lot of emotion, tells a deep connected storyline, and has displayed a VERY strong anti-war message since Finest Hour came out. CoD is not the Justin Beiber of VGs. VGs are art, but too bad most players don't care about the art aspect.
ThisIsNoise17 1 month ago
@WeEatBrainz all those games except one sucks fuck u
nick62301 1 month ago
@WeEatBrainz 999, Chrono Trigger, Earth Bound, Portal 2, Half-Life, and System Shock
anonymousheroXD 1 month ago
@anonymousheroXD I know, I was naming a few examples. I know there are thousands of great artistic games.
WeEatBrainz 1 month ago
@WeEatBrainz
Or what about the Portal games?
KINGBADASS100 1 month ago
@WeEatBrainz But then again, he did say "at least not in the mainstream" about music, and I think that is relevant in the case of games as well. I love games but I dont see anything with a big audience being more than just entertainment.
modplugrad 3 weeks ago
Hey TJ,PLEASE DONT THINK I'M AM ASSHOLE, PLEASE. I know you are entitled to your opinion but, I have to disagree with you on your opinion of lady gaga, what i got from it is that you don't find any artistic significance in her work. Not I'm not sure if you have listen to her most recent work, but listen to her song "Born This Way". it involves gay rights and i think you might change your opinion after listing to it. or not, it's up to you. keep up the great work. love the vids. -Mike
spyke13kime 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I think art shouldn't always be about "the current issues" ... at the moment it seems like everyone is moving towards that ... kind of reminds me of the 60s (hippies) or early 80s (punks). It seems the options are mindless decadence or reactionary art. I personally think art should be about those timeless, universal things that people relate to. Like the tragedy of existence, the beauty of form or colour ... Art that elevates us, not about the current Government or how they're screwing us.
drbenwaymd 2 months ago
Totally agree ...I think it's probably got to do with the the fact that we have been numbed by ease of entertainment ... if it doesn't instantly gratify,we switch the channel. We are slowing conditioning ourself to be stupid and lazy. Mainstream entertainment gives us exactly what we want, it's too dangerous to give us something new and thought-provoking ... the rating will drop. They supply us with an opiate... Many just want to eat and sleep ... thinking and work is done if need be.
drbenwaymd 2 months ago
stop putting fps as an example when there is big games that u can explore with good music, story lines its like a interactive movie, some stuff is shit but thats always how it is.. :p
MyTilted 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
this is why i listen to metal. It's not about "me"
STLHAUNTER 2 months ago
"Culture"
>America
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Sukikeri 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Liberalism is dead, not art.
ianhowe007 2 months ago
Video games are art. I will always disagree with The Amazing Atheist about this, because he simply doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, and doesn't care to know what he's talking about. His examples are all multiplayer FPS games; of course Call of Duty isn't artistic, because it's not trying to be. But how the fuck is Half Life 2 not art? How the fuck is Shadow of the Colossus not art? How is Bastion not art? They meet up with his own given definition of what art is.
Maynardftw 2 months ago 76
@Maynardftw Stop whining and get back to your computer games.
cornflakeclusters 2 months ago
@cornflakeclusters Actually while watching TheAmazingAthiest videos I play Terraria in a window. So, I can do both at once, thanks.
Maynardftw 2 months ago