Samsung/Sharp battle patent in U.S.

[DtorBill]

Anyway, I love smaller companies... Hitachi, NEC (not that small). And I really want to see the 3D TV from Hitachi, soon :)

[DtorBill]

in Samsung. LG is more accepted but unfortunately they are poor in technology and too much 'talk'. They said they had the same borderless TV and actually it's Mitsubishi the first. Please, I really don't want to argue about that :( I love Asia, I told you and I can talk more than you about China, Corea, and Japan, for sure :( and I live here studying and working those things :(

[DtorBill]

The 'old structure' of Japanese companies is killing to SONY, for example.

And let me say something else: 3D TV without glasses (Hitachi, not HAIER), and Fujitsu also has a 3D display without glasses. I'm pretty sure, many companies will copy it. As well as 4 color led for led backlight display.

[ktchong]

No, overpriced electronics are killing Sony.

It's okay if Sony makes a product that is 100% better than its competitors but costs 10% more; however, Sony makes products that are marginally better (10% better) but cost 100% or 200% more than, let say, Samsung. That's what killing Sony. People are not stupid. People know how to compare prices and quality.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Uhm... actually the quality of Samsung's is not that good.

The SONY's product are not overpriced: I explain how the market works:

[DtorBill]

@ktchong The life of Samsung products is considerably shorter than SONY and you should know that. The price depends sometimes of several things: Where is the product made (if the SONY display is made in Japan, unfortunately, the currency value is terribly high to export from Japan). And another important point is the production:...

[ktchong]

I've rarely used a product until it expired. The only product that broke down on me was actually a SONY Trinton display.

I'm not saying Japanese products aren't good. They are good. But then Korean products are very close or just as good, and they are much cheaper. I've used Samsung and LG, and I have no complaint.

[DtorBill]

Anyway, good FOR ASIA... hehehe :) but I really think, you should know a bit more about Japan.. Please, don't get me wrong, I appreciate your opinion... LOVE ASIA... hehe

[Jpaneze]

see, I am sure you are korean. all you talk about is samsung and LG.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong if you build 1000 TVs instead 200, you obviously get better price on your suppliers, right?

Corea is using basically the same economical system than China (cheap to be bigger) and trying to do the same as Japan (good products), but copying (i.e. MR. Shibuya 2007 Toyota-Hyundai).

I mean: Japanese companies have a really bad handicap right now, the currency and the production. Unfortunately they didn't think about that before and now the production is not enough to make the prices lower

[ktchong]

You know, whatever problem the Japanese companies have with their currency or not-enough-production... it's really not my problem.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Ok, but you said 'overpriced', which is the same as German products. They sell EXPENSIVE because of name. I tell you now an example of what's happening in Samsung, but nobody knows it. It usually happens in Samsung. Now is the turn of Pentax, which is helping to Samsung to make Reflex Cameras... did you know that? Again, I love these countries and fortunately I know more than you can imagine. But again... LOVE FOR ASIA :)

[Jpaneze]

ofcourse the currency is not your problem. you know nothing about economy. Dtorbill is right about the camera. samsung can make camera because of pentax. you know why they work together for some camera? pentax doesnt have a strong brand recognition thats why. samsung camera is still the cheapest though. cheap and smelly like kimchi.low quality.

[Jpaneze]

omg chongchong. you dont understand anything about economy, business, currency, fact, opinion and english. you should read some news. let me tell you something. samsung can sell a good tv but just in the low end segment. samsung tv in the high end segment is trash. its cheap though. do you know the difference of 720p and 1080p btw? you seem like you dont know anything about HDTV. as Dtorbill said, its the cost advantage. the more you make, the cheaper you can produce.

[DtorBill]

And man... I'm not Japanese, I'm not Korean (you are korean, for sure) and let me say, I could even talk more about your history (Korean's) than you :) included about 'technlogy'. After the second WW, America doesn't let developing more than currently because they do it too much (which is dangerous for American products). See what's happening with Toyota... a pathetic movie against Toyota because Toyota increases around 0.87% the market share on average since TIME AGO and GM a -0.97%...

[DtorBill]

Oops,... what happened now... hahaha... Kodad even used SANYO's technology for it's OLED products... :) Where is SANYO from? Korea? :) Please, try to read the things properly :)

[ktchong]

FYI, Kodak and Sanyo got into a joint-venture to further develop OLED in 1999. Sanyo got into the OLED business by late 1990s or early 2000s.

But Kodak made breakthroughs in OLED way before that. Dr. Tang and Dr. VanSlyke made their major breakthrough in 1987 -- more than ten years before Sanyo got into the venture with Kodak.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Thanks to Shirakawa Hideki... you can buy a OLED TV now... :) And that was a looong time ago :) Stop reading too much Wikipedia... and this is what happen when you try to write without arguments... The important is... Samsung WASN'T the first. And you were talking about Samsung's prototype and SONY commercial products. Man, read about the first SONY's prototype... :) That wasn't in 2004 :)

[ktchong]

Hideki is only 1/3 of the team. Heeger and MacDiarmid worked with him.

If you want to go way way back, Martin Pope and Dow Chemical really pioneered the OLED field.

Ultimately, it's the Kodak lab that pioneered the "SM-OLED", which is the contemporary OLED that's practical for mass production and commercial use. And Samsung beat Sony and other Japanese companies in producing the first OLED TV.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Haha... actually he studied in Tokyo (knowledge comes from there) :) And read again about the first prototype :) Hahaha... you are ridiculous, man... concentration!! :) Hahaha

[DtorBill]

@ktchong And sorry, but OLED TV are thanks to Hideki (even he got a nobel because of that (it means, PIONEER) :) ).

And again, read about OLED's history (not from Wikipedia). To be able to sell a TV, man... you need prototypes before... :) You don't know what are you talking about and you read too much bad information... hahaha

[ktchong]

Alan Heeger won a nobel for pioneering OLED technology. As I've said, there were other people who made breakthru in OLED before Hideki and Heegar, but it's Kodak that made it into a PRACTICAL technology.

Like it or not, Japanese do copy. Of course you two Japanophile would feel offended by that.

Also, I'm not Korean -- and I have no relations to Korea and any Korean people. Not sure why you keep calling me a Korean. Because I buy Korean (Samsung, LG) over Japanese (Sony)?

[DtorBill]

@ktchong What means 'KTCHONG'? Again... thanks to Hideki, MAN, the OLED TV are available. Conductive polymer (HIDEKI, NOBEL) That's the BASE OF OLED TV... Hahaha... you are a bit annoying, eh? :)

[Jpaneze]

if your not korean what are you? an alien? did you just come from mars or something? chongchong is korean. kim chongchong. koreans can afford japanese products. its too expensive for them. tell all your illegal korean residents in US and Japan to get out of the country.earn your money in korea chongchong.

[Jpaneze]

wait. what? samsung doesnt even sell OLED TV. dont just say bull shit. at least, get more educated when you say something. you sound so dumb chongchong. even my korean friends admit that they make low quality products but better than chinese. btw I would love to see the SAMSUNG OLED TV. where can i find it? which store?lol

[Jpaneze]

hey, chongchong. why are we talking about who invented what? most of the invention in the world comes from Japan, US and Europe. all 3 has different kinds of advance technology. your just jealous cuz your korean. I have seen a lot of korean who wants to be japanese. there are a lot of illegal korean residents in japan. tell them to get out.lol.

[DtorBill]

Sharp all the time WITH REASON, of course, brings charges against Samsung for breaking patents ... Samsung rarely respects the patents of others... (around the world, whole the year since time ago Samsung breaks patents) This is the typical history of 'Samsung'; they just copy, they sell. And while Sharp waits for the resolution to avoid selling those TVs from Samsung; Samsung has gotten 'name' and 'money' thanks to patents from Sharp. Samsung is a really shit.

[Jpaneze]

you are right. I graduated with a business degree and I had read about how samsung was established. copy is the right word. there are a lot of electronics giants in japan and what samsung does is to infringe patent as much as they can and combine it together.

[ktchong]

Japanese really don't have the right to complain about Koreans copying them, seeing that they themselves were big copycats of America for decades.

[Jpaneze]

oh, yeah? which company?

[XxmattitudexX]

its like fighting over who can make the best 8 track.gesssus oled is alreay here who fing cares about lcds

[ktchong]

Japan used to make the best electronics, but nowadays South Korea has caught up and really makes the best LCDs and HDTVs overall.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Haha... you are korean, right? You don't know what are you talking about... :) but well, it's ok, haha.

[ktchong]

Nope. Not Korean. Don't really like Korean people, actually.

But nowadays Koreans companies like Samsung and LG make better electronics than Japanese companies like Sony and Panasonic do. Other than that, Koreans are still some of the rudest mutherphuckers on the planet.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Actually not better products than Japanese, but not bad.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong I love Korean people as well as Japanese people (I'm European), but I really don't know why korean product's fans and korean people is all the times comparing... Actually Samsung uses all the times patents from others, they sell products with those patents and lower quality (just check the percentage of fails in Samsung and the same with Sony, for example). Whole year receiving charges for breaking patents of Sharp, Fujitsu, Pioneer (Pioneer: About Plasma, 2008)...

[ktchong]

Back in the 1980s and 1990s, Japan made the best electronic products. But time has changed. Japanese still makes exceptionally well-made electronics, but South Korea makes the well-made products that offer the best price/performance/quality ratios.

(P.S. Actually, last year South Korea filed the most patents after the United States, surpassing Japan.)

In terms of LCD, I personally prefer LG -- I like the vibrant colors.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Are you sure about the patents? I'm not sure of that and many of them with conflicts between them and Japanese makes... And if you like 'vibrant colors', try to find a Sharp... please, nothing to compare: Really, currently, without those patents, nothing is possible to compare although I'm agree with you, good relation price-performance, but again, without the patents from Japanese makes, impossible to see that 'performance', believe me. There are many patents copied, not just one.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong And another thing, I really feel sad when Samsung and LG (especially Samsung) do that and still the people is able to buy their products... Actually, if the people could know that, easily, I'm sure it would be another thing. And the 'market share' taken by Korean companies is clearly helped by the price of WON, which is ridiculuos lately (taking into account that 'korean makes' build, the most of their products in Korea. And again, try to check the 'patents', you are really wrong.

[Jpaneze]

samsung and LG sucks.they are a copycat. samsung has been copying too much products. not only that, do you know most of the samsungs technologies come from samsung Japan? korean business = copy. they are just in the low end tv segment.

[Jpaneze]

cant compare. people want a tv with low price. japanese tv maker charge quality and their brand names. a lot of people ignores tv brand these few years because of the high price although the price dropped significantly these few years. samsung = copycat. whatever samsung makes, the technologies mostly come from japan.samsung should stop copying. korea loves to copy.

[ktchong]

Interesting. That's what Americans said about Japan: copycat.

[Jpaneze]

what are you talking about?lol. I live in the US. I have never heard about that. just look at the news above. samsung shouldn't be selling infringing device. actually its korea and china who is copying a lot of things world wide.Japan ignored samsung for decades even though they copy a lot. some japanese companies just start to stop korea for copying japanese products.

[DtorBill]

@Jpaneze Agree and sorry for Korean companies but yes, they copy everything. And about KTCHONG... sorry man... but you are wrong if you think Japan copied... and yes, the people sometimes is wrong saying that... just read a bit. Sorry, I'm not Japanese and I'm objective... :( Sorry

[Jpaneze]

I'm sorry I think there is a bit of misunderstanding here. its korea who is copying. korea = low quality. samsung got big because of copying japanese products for decades. I dont like korean business strategy because they copy a lot. not only samsung,but a lot of korean companies copies japanese products. thats how korea move forward.

[ktchong]

You DO realize that Japanese companies became successful after decades of COPYING from Americans, right?

[Jpaneze]

name any companies that did that?

[ktchong]

Actually, nowadays Samsung produces high quality electronics. I personally could care less about Japanese or Korean (I'm neither,) or who's copying who. I go for the best quality and performance for money.

It used to be Japanese. Now it's Korean.

[Jpaneze]

if your talking about the price, yeah, go for samsung. I know you wont be able to pay $10,000 for a high end Japanese tv. ofcourse its korean. korean products are cheap sweety. I always aim for high quality products so good luck with your low quality tv and hyundai.lol. hyundai has buy one get one free. check it out.

[ktchong]

You may not be Japanese, but some Whiteys nowadays are Japanophiles.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Man, that's a great complex. Corean people all the time comparing their products with Japanese products without any reason... that's a pathetic obsession... Japanese culture was copied. Do you know the Japan's history? Copied, you sure? :)

[ktchong]

I'm not Korean. I don't even like Koreans -- they are rude in general. But my personal likes and dislikes of a certain people, country or culture have no bearing on my buying decisions.

[Jpaneze]

dont lie chongchong. your korean.lol. your trying to act like your a foreigner and make korea look good. koreans will always make low quality products.lol. its not as bad as 10 years ago. you guys are doing better now a days. just please stop copying japan, US, and europes product.

[Jpaneze]

First of all LG is a total trash. 2nd, now a days, samsung tv quality is improving but they are not on the top. yes, samsung has no.1 market share. the reason is the price of samsung. If you look at the expensive TVs from japanese companies, you will get turned off by the price. I am talking about the high end TV segment. 3rd, other than TV, samsung is a total junk. tell me what else does samsung can make with their ability to copy.

[DtorBill]

@Jpaneze Yes, I'm agree with you... Samsung and LG... especially Samsung exist because of 'copy-paste'. The main reason to say it is seeing the problems with Samsung and Sharp because Samsung copies after year the patents from Samsung... I really don't like that company (Samsung) and even Hyundai

[ktchong]

There is nothing wrong with making products that are not necessary at the top but offer the best "price-quality-performance" package.

Take Japanese cars as examples. Are they the best? NO. Do you know what are the best? Germans and Mercedes and BMW and Volvo. Those are the best, and also the very high-end and very expensive.

But people go for Toyota and Honda -- not becuz they are the best -- but becuz they offer the best price-quality-performance ratio.

It's the same with Samsung and LG.

[ktchong]

I used to buy Sony in the 1990s, but then I switched over to LG.

Then I had to buy a new one because my Sony Trinton broke. I read all the reviews, and Samsung -- NOT some Japanese brand -- got the best overall reviews.

So I walked into a Fry's Electronic store. The store had a shelf with all different brands of LCDs lined up side-by-side: Sony, Samsung, HP, LG, etc.

And for me, LG has the most best picture quality. I liked its color quality the best. So I bought a LG.

[ktchong]

And honestly, here in the US, LG and Samsung are not much cheaper than a Sony. Their prices are comparable.

But I picked a LG because I liked its image and color quality the best. I tried adjusting the picture quality for Sony, but I just couldn't get the same.

And I've been happy with my LG LCD since I bought it. Haven't had a problem yet.

[Jpaneze]

wow. you wrote a lot.lol. Low end tv segment only has little price difference. if your happy with a low quality tv, good for you.

[Jpaneze]

if your happy with made in korea and china, good for you. copying products are not good. you dont copy products like samsung do you?lol.

[ktchong]

The pot really shouldn't be calling the kettle black: Japanese have the reputation of being copycats. They are well-known for copying Americans.

[Jpaneze]

you can not compare old sony tv and new LG tv.lol. thats not how to compare products sweety.lol.

[ktchong]

OLED is the future of TV. Who invented OLED and let Japanese copy it? It's Kodak. Some Chinese guy named Dr. Ching W. Tang at Kodak. (Ironic.)

In fact, a big part of the Japanese culture was copied from/based on/imported from China. Sushi was actually a Chinese invention. Japanese Kimono and traditional clothing were ripped off from Chinese clothing of the Tang dynasty.

Of course, you'll find some reason to deny all of that.

[Jpaneze]

that might be true for OLED. japanese didnt invent the technology but they made a tv from the OLED tech. you dont call that copy btw.lol. let me tell you something about business cuz you seem ignorant about this. you can use the tech when you pay a fee to the inventor. got it?

next, you dont call tradition copy.lol. got it chongchong?

[ktchong]

FYI, Samsung made the first OLED TV in 2005. Sony made a tiny OLED palm device in 2004, but before that Western tech firms had experimented OLED on various devices. SAMSUNG, not Sony or some Japanese company, was the first to make a TV out of OLED.

[Jpaneze]

which company? you cant even answer my simple question. I think the problem is you dont understand english. you have too much grammatical error. just watch the video above. get your dictionary and start using it. so is volvo still german?lol

[ktchong]

Americans invented video game console in the 1970s. Sony and Nintendo ripped off the whole console idea from the U.S.

Japanese copied RPGs from Americans. The US company Origin System launched a series of lawsuits against Japanese in the early 1980s over infringements, but they finally settled out of court. Square ended up paying a lot of money to Origin.

[Jpaneze]

hey, korean chongchong. how are you? RPG? first, sony released their first console in 95. 1970s?copied RPG? do you know what infringe patent means first of all? didnt I tell you to go and get your dictionary? go back to korea and help your low income people. copy means to make a identical product. omg. you need to get an english tutor. oh, wait. korean income are too little. you like talking BS

[ktchong]

Magnavox Odyssey is the first console that came out in 1972. Atari, RCA, Coleco and Mattel all made consoles before Nintendo released its first Japanese console (Famicom or NES) in 1985.

At the time, Famicom looked like a ripoff of Atari. But the Japanese console was... CHEAPER. And people flocked to the cheaper product.

Origin System sued some Japanese companies including Square for copyright infringement in the 1980s. This appears in various books on video game history.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Before saying pathetic things, try to read about SANYO (Japanese) and Kodak :) And about OLED, ok? :) Anyway, as I see... you read too much Wikipedia... :) Hehe :)

[ktchong]

The point is: Japanese have copied from Americans on too many occasions. But does it really matter to me as a consumer?

Not really. As long as they make a product better and cheaper after they had copied from other people, my money go to them. That is why people buy Japanese over American products.

It's the same with Korean products nowadays. Do I care that they copied from Japanese? Not really. I used Samsung and LG, and they are quality products that are also cheaper.

[DtorBill]

Actually you are wrong again: The things work like this: And this is not the only one case: NEC, for example (Japanese company, right?) develops the USB 3.0, every company of this world which want to use USB 3.0 has to pay to NEC, right? Then, just check where are the half of components from in that 'American Technology' :) (Obviously, it also happens with Korean products :) )

[ktchong]

If people did not care about prices and want to go for the absolute best and the top-of-the-line, then they would go for German products. But German products don't sell as well as Japanese because Japanese products are cheaper.

So, in a way, if someone was buying Japanese and not buying German, he could be accused of being "cheap". (In a way, we do see Toyota and Honda owner as being "cheaper" than Benz owners.)

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Man, what are you talking about? Hehehe... You are a bit obssesed, eh?

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Now German? Not Korean anymore? Hehe :)

Well, about 'German'... tell me just ONE product better than Japanese :)

[ktchong]

I don't buy German because it's too pricey for the marginal value and quality they offer. However, for people who wanted to go for the absolute best, then no products are better than German (in general.) Rich people who want the best buy Benz, not Toyota or Honda.

For the general public, who really just want to buy the best products for the REASONABLE amounts of money, then nowadays it's mostly Korean.

For people who want to go all the way cheap, then Chinese products can't be beat.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Rich people means 'more intelligent'?... Not, right? The prestige is a VALUE in German cars, but that's all. Currently the German cars are even worse than Korean and absolutely worse in EVERYTHING than Japanese (see number of patents by year in any car maker) <-- What happen with Hyundai, what happen with ANY German and what happen with Toyota or Honda...?

[ktchong]

It's obvious that you're a Japanophile like that other dude (or maybe your other account.)

Don't particularly care for Hyundai. Japanese still makes the best-value-for-money cars: Toyota. However, Japanese no longer makes the best-value-for-money electronics. Samsung does.

That just how it is.

[ktchong]

Different companies/countries make the best different products.

Japanese make the best cars.

Korean make the best TVs.

American make the best computers.

Best = best value for money

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Sorry, I would like to be agree, but Samsung is still far from Sharp.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Is not in Korea where people have to use 'real name' in Youtube?

Anyway, let me say my honest opinion: Korean are improving but they still need time and 'good policy' to be able to develop new technology

[ktchong]

Chong could be Chinese or Hawaiian. The most famous Chong is white, i.e., Tommy Chong. If you google just "Chong", it's all Tommy Chong.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Uhm... Chong is only used by that 'Tommy Chong'? Man, you are corean and that's really obvious. I really don't mind, that's why I know, in Corea people have to use real name in youtube (if I'm not wrong). I have good corean friends and we feel sad when we see people all the time throwing rubbish on Japanese companies... :( That's probably a minority, but they are really making 'dirty' the Corean image. :(

[ktchong]

I'm not Korean. My paternal grandfather was Chinese from Singapore, and his surname is Chong. Obviously my dad and I use the same surname. So I suppose I'm at least 1/4 Chinese.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Uy... we are close... 'Chong' is a name and a corean family name. In Corea, the people HAVE to use the real name for Youtube (and you already said 'Chong' is in your family). Believe me, I don't mind if you are corean. But try to be objective. Let me say why I feel sad with Corea: The korean government helps first of all to Hyundai and Samsung, without almost care of small companies. (Without Hyundai or Samsung, Corea would be really poor and you know it)

[ktchong]

If you google "Chong origin", it actually tells you that Chong is a Chinese surname.

I don't deal with Korean much, and I don't care much for them. Most Koreans I've met are rude arrogant people. As I've said, I go for Samsung and LG because right now they offer the best value for my money. I've used both and I'm happy with their quality.

I wouldn't touch Hyundai at the moment. Korea makes good TVs and LCDs. They are better value than Japanese, but Korean cars are still not good.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Again man... You know 'CHONG' is popular in Korea, you said you have that family name in your family and you are even using the same name in Youtube... that's too strange, no? The value is calculated taking into account the quality and price but that doesn't mean, they are better. Actually more than 50% of Samsung's patents are similar than previous SONY or Sharp (especially Sharp) and less life. Believe me, you will see some copy, soon, from Hitachi or Fuji in 3D television.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong And 'CHONG' is a Family name and it could be a name as well... no? :)

[DtorBill]

@ktchong In my case, I'm Spanish (sorry for my English) but I appreciate so much the Asian countries (where I live) (between Corea, Japan and Taiwan) and I have reasons to say 'Japan is maybe the most amazing country in this world' although too old structure in its companies

[ktchong]

Actually, Germans make the most reliable, solid vehicles.

I have, more than a few times, seen Japanese cars got into accidents and crashes with German cars. Too often in those accidents, the German Benz or BMW were unscratched or had only minor dents. On the other hand, the Japanese Toyota or Honda were "total", i.e., totally destroyed.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong You are wrong again:

JD Power (USA), ADAC (Germany), OCU (Europe) say since 30 years ago, Japanese cars are the most reliable.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong Man, even in Heavy Industry... Liebherr (German) and Komatsu (Japanese). Something else? Where is the half of Boeing's projects from? Smell Japanese as well...

[ktchong]

In the camera and film industry, German cameras are regarded as better than Japanese -- but way too expensive to justify their prices. (Carl Zeiss lenses anyone?)

But if you want the absolute best cameras, you go for Leica instead of Nikon or Canon. Americans and Germans made a lot of innovations and breakthroughs in camera technology... and then Nikon and Canon (and now Sony) just copied them.

[ktchong]

The masses use cheaper but great Japanese cameras. Hollywood, which has hundreds of millions of dollars to spend and want the absolute best visual quality, buy American- and German-made cameras and tools.

[DtorBill]

@ktchong You think Japan has only SONY? :) Read about Mitsubishi, Yusen... more? :) Fuji (you should know more about those companies...) But do you want to know more about 'unknown Japanese companies'? :) Even read about DENSO technology and Bosch's... uy... smell too much 'COPY'... hahaha

[ktchong]

Even though Japan makes better car now, but Toyota copied American production model. JIT = lean manufacturing was pioneered by Eli Whitney, who also invented cotton gin; but Japanese just took it. Japanese copied a bunch of Henry Ford's production methods (which were underutilized and discarded by Ford) as well.

[Jpaneze]

omg. I am not sure about this production method but let me tell you something chongchong. you dont call a method copy. learn english.

[ktchong]

Look, it's very obvious from your screen name that you're a Japanophile. You has a Japanese fetish.  So there is nothing I can say or do that will change that. It's obvious that you are biased.

Me personally, I buy the best value for my money. It used to be Japanese electronics, but now it's Korean. In the future, if another country overtakes Korea, I'll change to buying products from that country.

You, on the other hand, blindly worship Japan.

[Jpaneze]

uh, hello? I am not japanese. my username is jpaneze cuz I like japan. I wanna go there someday. anyways, I said its good that you like made in korea products. its cheap and its better than made in china. not only japan, i like made in US, and europe too. not made in china and korea.lol. learn english dude. or go back to korea.lol. chongchong. who cares whatever product you buy. your cheap.

[ktchong]

I didn't say you're Japanese. I said you're a Japanophile, and you've just admitted to be so. Look up an English dictionary if you don't know the meaning of that word.

I think I've already mentioned that I'm not Korean. Korean goods are not cheaper than Chinese. Chinese goods are cheap, and they serve their purpose. However, I wouldn't spend too much money on one.

[DtorBill]

man,... too much Wikipedia... hahaha read better the things... :)

[Jpaneze]

chongchong. let me tell you something. before you strike back, please say something that make sense.seriously, it seems like I am talking to an uneducated person. the labor is cheap in korea. thats one of the big advantage. you should read WSJ btw. its a business news. you need to get educated chongchong.