White Americans have never...and I mean ever...killed any natives, we made friends with them and we've saved all the blacks from Africa away from their poverty and disease. Ku Klux Klan was a peaceful organization that greatly improved the lives of many many African-Americans. You chinese should learn from us.
Not some people are disagree with you. Everybody is disagree with you. Chinese killed more than 1 Million Tibetan and still more Tibetan people dieing in Tibet. The video is not only offensive to Tibetan people. Its also Offensive to Most of world such as Jews. When Nazi killed more than 6 million Jews, other country helped Jews to get their Independent Life. My innocent grandpa got shot by Chinese solider during protesting. YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THE HUMAN RIGHTS.
Not some people are disagree with you. Everybody is disagree with you. Chinese killed more than 1 Million Tibetan and still more Tibetan people dieing in Tibet. The video is not only offensive to Tibetan people. Its also Offensive to Most of world such as Jews. When Nazi killed more than 6 million Jews, other country helped Jews to get their Independent Life. My innocent grandpa got shot by Chinese solider during protesting. YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THE HUMAN RIGHTS.
Hey man pull your head out your azz. Go back to China if you think China is great. Sending troops to invade Tibet in 1950's and declared that tibet is always been apart of CHINA. Hey gay boy, just to let you know China don't accept gay people like you
hey man.....you know what TIBET AND CHINA ARE TWO DIFFERENT NATION...i know they are neighboring country and live side by side from and history...I speak tibetan not chinese...i have my own way of life and all aspects of life are different from china...i think you are high school student...so you dont really understand the conflict....better study history with more reliable source....
@spirit31475 If he is a high school student then you must be in kindergarden. Just because tibetans don't speak chinese and have differnt way of life, it means China and Tibetan are two nations? LOL China has 56 ethnic groups and 90% of them have their own languages(or dialects) and ways of life. Does it mean they are all different nations ? You point is just laughable. You are the one who needs to learn history, even the title of DALAI LAMA was granted by ancient chinese emperors, retard.
@NasDa hahahaa..man for your kind information the Title Dalai Lama was given by Mongolian emperor...not your UNcle Mao or other chinese...The tibetans have a very proud and rich culture...Actually Quingai,Yunan,Gansu and Sichaun are all part of Tibet...the PRC has just divided in to these province...i will taech you history if you want to learn...free of cost...dont learn Mao or Hu jintao's written history book...hahaha
@spirit31475 You don't know there are 56 ethnics groups in China and Mongolian is one of them? Yes, the title of Dalai Lama was granted by Mongolian emperor, Altan Khan, who was the grandson of the ancient emperor of Yuan Dynasty. The city Hohhot, was founded by him, is the capital city of Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region which is a province of China. I have been there and seen for myself when you probably don't know where it is on the map. So just shut up and piss off.
@spirit31475 Still your comment of "If Tibet is a part of China, it should be called China" still makes my day. I am still lmao when I think anybody can say such thing. That is just beyond retardness and idiocy LOL.
first - you a funny as looking kid lookin like yao ming lil brother n shitt - newayz dey don't have the best human rights policy? no where near good dic head - ur gov. kills der own ppl - find out the real truth buddy - they brain wash yo dum ass - im tibetan and i KNOW my history you don't know half the things they use to do to torture tibetans FOR NO DAM REASON !! FREE TIBET p.s. and they still killing ppl over there as we speak god bless the unfortunate
Please learn proper English before you divulge yourself into a topic that requires research and credibility. I was simply criticizing the scenes that anti-olympic have caused. Oh yeah. Tibet has always been a part of China. It's not politically, but that's how it has always been, and how it will always will be.
agreed, little boy! tibetans who protested against the olympic with all that violence only accomplised on thing; getting arrested, which is ironic. you sound like you're reading it all off paper ^^ very good.
your neighbor takes over your house(China), kills few of your relatives(tibet), and then the whole blocks throws a party for your neighbor.(olympics) NICE.... REALLY NICE...
your opinion is completely racist,whacked,baseless,lack of knowledge ...and bravo! your really got the genes of your country ,,the genes of lie (by saying you have very good knowledge of your country)do you know how your goverment play with innocent country to loot their natural asset.you were really hurt by the just protest against your country ..think how many tibetan people were tortured,abused,killed by your goverment...i am not saying all chinese people are bad but your goverment got probl
I understand where you come from, from any neutral point of view, this does seem absurd, yet as a Chinese, I would say the stand-off with the "Free Tibetians" protest is right. Have your heard of "propaganda"? It's a extreme form of politics, and if we allow the Tibetians to keep protesting alone, the world will only hear one side of the story, and think they know the whole truth! But it is not (as you said), so we got to show the world our opinions to give them a choice to judge
Kid! Do you know anything about your own country? SAD* Did you not see the way your people killed Tibetan people during those days when China took over Tibet? Disgusting. How human can do such things to other human. GO CHINa IS Basically means, KILL PEOPLE. dude.You should check the history of tibet before you make a comment about china being all goody goody. thanx buddy
did the british not take over the land of the united states? i as an american is worst than the chinese who is taking what is rightfuly theirs. on the other hand, other countries got it worst. americans just cant stand seeing china win for once.
Go back to china if you think china is great. Why is your GAY CHINK's ass in America anyways. Is it because China don't accept faggot like you? Asian people like me hate chinese and china. China is the shithole of Asia!!!
That's your opinion on China. By saying Go China = Kil people you are denying the birth rights of all humans to be patriotic for their country. Nationalism is allowed and encouraged everywhere. Why must Chinese not be allowed to root for their own country? It's because of hypocrites like you, the Free Tibet movement didn't get anywhere. Your logic held no weight. No one even talks about Free TIbet anymore. TOTAL FAILURE on your retards' part.
dude i agree. tibet needs china anyways. And the olympics shouldnt be dragged into this. btw, this is eddie lee from cornerstone..long time no see. CHECK OUT MY VIDEOS!
YOu are saying the right things but then U know what? China is actually using the Olympic as a political tool to show the world that they have done the right things. I am sure you are Chinese but i also know you are born in this country and should give more interest in reality than just bised for your parents country, China.
An excellent video, Alex. The whole point of the Olympics is for nations to SET ASIDE their differences and come together, if not just for one summer, and engage in friendly competition.
Tibet was a suzerainty of China for a very long time. While I do not agree with Communism, people should take a look at Tibet's history as well. Clerics living in opulence while their people reside in squalor?
People need to see that Tibet wasn't exactly Eden.
olympic flame symbolises peace,justice and freedom.How can IOC do such injustice by giving China this chance?
The actual blending of politics and sports is done by china.Whats the need of bringing torch to tibet even the place was under problem.
hey alex,u need to re study the history of china and tibet beyond govt censored text.Tibet was a country with their own history,culture,national anthem,currency and language.Unfortunately,China invaded that religious country in 1949.FREEE CHINAAA!!!
you're right. all this protesting against the chinese government is obscene. with such a government as this and with such people as you who can't seem to get it through your thick heads that no tibetans will accept themselves to be called chinese or live under chinese rule; there is only one option left. to kill. i hope one day the educated people in china can change the wrong mentality of the chinese ppl or else i can see nothing but bloodshed in the future.
by the Chinese government and of course then by IOC. IOC said to have granted China this opportunity in the hope of improving China's human rights conditions, it was stated by IOC itself. China again wants to show the world that it is not only a 'normal' country but also 'glorious' nation while it is massacring the people of Tibet. "Tibet is part of China" is nothing but your igorance...the truth is China occupied the country brutally by killing hundreds of thousands of Tibetans in 1950s
I am sick and tired of hearing this statement that sport should not be mixed with politics every time when free-tibet activists protest against China's killings in Tibet. From IOC president to the Chinese government, and now this kid is parroting the mantra. Look, Olympics has historically been politicized if you look back, ever since 1936 during the time of Hitler, later during the Soviet Union. (Have a look of the history of Olympics). Secondly, the politicization of 2008 Olympics was done
olympic belongs to chinese people and not goverment of china why dont you just get it???... boycott beijing olympic u will hurt feelings of chinese people...
This is absurd, although I agree that what the Caucasians did to the Natives were absolutely wrong, you have to realize that was centuries ago. Times have changed, people have changed, it's 2008.
it's said how young you are and yet supporting wrong doing of your country based on wrong things thought to you. research little more before you become heroic fighter just as many japanese young man did during the world war2. they thought they were doing the right thing for the world too. they thought (because they were tought like that in japan) they were freeing china from westerners.
While it is true Tibetans are a different race than China, the fact remains that Tibet has been part of China since its invasion during the Yuan dynasty. Tibet from that point on had always been under China, so to speak, and in 1912 when China's civil war took off was when China stopped its influence on Tibet. Until 1951 Tibet was allowed to makes its own decisions and then China again began its influence in Tibet. So do this 38 year period of time qualify tibet as being a sovereign state?
Personally I dont believe so and neither do many other countries out there. Most countries agree that Tibet is still a part of China and that they have never established any government relations with Tibet. Since I dont know much about the human rights aspect of this argument I wont try to make a point on that. But from what I have perceived it seems that Tibetans are a bit discriminated against in China and I dont support that discrimination.
I don't know when this trend began that the Yuan Dynasty was a Chinese Dynasty. The Yuan Dynasty was in fact a Mongolian Dynasty in which both China and Tibet had been under.
You're Chinese, you're obviously going to side with your country. If Tibet remains part of China, just know that Tibetans are a completely different race of people than the Chinese, we have our own culture, religion, and language.
according to your concept of race, I am not chinese either, but the concept you use is not used here. China has a "one china doctrine" that existed for at least 3 thousands years. So this one china doctrine overwrite any racial difference, any geographic difference and huge culture differences among chinese people. China's one china policy is just a modern words of old doctrine. and it is no way a commuist party's creative invention and brainwash. if no CCP, tibet still part of china.
I agree with your idea of unification and how it's being ruined. I don't get what was the point when you said Tibet and China were together for a long long time... are you supporting the fact that China is taking over Tibet? Because if you are, that is the worst reason to have. The entire western Asia was once owned by the Persians however it doesn't qualify them to claim it back now.
Tibetan have more right than other Chinese in China, they can have as many kids they want, they have a higher priority to enter university, most Tibetan are happy there.
your soo typical. you don't understand because You think human rights and Freedom means having how much ev er babies and bieng able to go to universities. But For tibetans human rights and freedom means being able to practice our religeon and being able to have dalailamas picture. you don't KNow anything.
Tibetans are allowed to have two children per family. They don't have a higher priority to enter universities. The majority of Tibetans don't speak or understand Chinese. Many parents can't afford for their children to go to school to learn Chinese. Therefore, they can't make money and they are discriminated against by the Han Chinese who have migrated there.
You say the Olympics is a sporting event and it is supposed to deliver a message of peace and unity in the world... but guess what? 5 months before the Olympics, the Chinese government is hellbent on cracking down in Tibet and spreading propaganda on its media making baseless accusations.
China itself boycotted the Olympics several times in protest of Taiwan. To say that the olympics "should not be mixed with politics" is hypocritical and mere rhetoric of the Chinese governments propaganda machine.
Is this kid on crack or something; china invaded and got away with one of the most bloodiest genocide in history in 1950s. India, india of all countries has much more ties to tibet than china but india does not go around parading tibet belongs to us. to say tibet is part of china is to also say that arunachal pradeshs is part of china which is in india territory. go fuck yourself china, no more of your land grabs will be tolerated
In the 13th century Tibet became a part of ethnic Mongol-ruled Chinese state. Four centuries later Tibet was further incorporated into China when the Eemperor of Qing dynasty established the Dalai Lama as both the spiritual leader and political leader of Tibet. [2] [3] Between the 17th century and 1951, the Dalai Lama and his regents were the predominant political power administering religious and administrative authority[4] over large parts of Tibet from the traditional capital Lhasa.
You shouldn't believe just what I say, or just what the Free Tibet websites say. Search up 'Patrick French,' a former Free-Tibet supporter, who was given exclusive access to the Dalai Lama's evidence for his claim on the genocide of 1.2 million people.
Thank you for posting this. Most people have no idea what they are talking about. They will protest something else next year that they don't understand. (BTW, I'm not Asian, I'm a white guy in USA).
Hmm. I'm not sure about that. If you "accidentally" protest for what is in actuality a good cause, and someone challenges you on it, how can you possibly make your case to them? Is protest about affecting change or merely expressing discontent? (or both?) Watching protesters not being able to find Tibet on a map is kind of a turn-off if I'm somebody who doesn't know which way to think.
My first post didn't go through... I wanted to say that even though Tibet has been ruled by China for centuries, does not mean they should automatically accept it. It's easy for you to say that they should because you aren't in their situation.
You say that there are no perfect gov'ts... true, but some are worse than others. One doesn't have to look any further than Zimbabwe to recognize this.
Also, hosting the Olympics is a PRIVILEGE, and lots of opening ceremonies, not to mention entire competitions, have been boycotted in the past. The PRC itself has boycotted Olympic numerous times in the past, mostly over Taiwan, and also in 1980 (along with 62 other countries) over the Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan. So I find this ridiculously hypocritical. Talk about history... try learning some modern history.
That does not justify ANYONE's action just someone boycotted the Olympic in the past. His point here is merely we shouldnt mix politics with sport, doesnt mater who's hosting it. You're saying it's right to boycott China's olympic because the have boycotted the Olympic in the past? It's like saying Jewish have the right to kill anyone they want, because they have been suppressed and murdured by every nation around the world? One evil does not justify another evil, and it never will.
Your opinion that the Olympics and politics are separate are clearly not shared by most people or govts. Why do you think countries try so hard to have the honor of hosting it? Just to make money? Come on... it is a matter of PRESTIGE, and I think it's perfectly legitimate to boycott them (which I think can hardly be considered an act of "evil"). After all, people's LIVES are more important than a week of GAMES. And it's worth disrupting the games to put additional pressure on govts to improve.
I support you, Alex. Olympics is Olympics, not a tool, but a great party of people from all over the world. i give some suggestions to people who hate China or its government, is, going to China. Go and ask if Chinese people are satisfy with their government. It is really not that bad. And, do you think it is really easy to deal with such large population of China? And do you think China is developed enough as well as Western Countries? Please give patience and show some respect.
Dear Alex, I am tibetan and firmly believe that tibet is never a part of china. Anyhow after going through your video I think that you are new generation chinese who are more open hearted. I feel u r sincere. I don't blame u for your lack of information on Tibet. We are not asking for complete independent. We very much would like to be with you guys only if ur government treat us equally and give us right to religion. In whole genuine autonomy. Love to talk more
you got your facts wrong again. you need to turn off that communist tv news. 1.2 mil died but not killed by us army. all the civil war caused the deaths.
China's a great land ruled by a brutal regime, the Chinese Communist Party. The CCP has killed 65-80 million people, more than any regime in history. Now the CCP uses the Olympics to stir up Chinese nationalism, which it manipulates to validate and strengthen its hold on China. It's important to distinguish the CCP and China. Also, Tibet may have been a part of China historically, but it's still wrong to kill hundreds of thousands of Tibetan people, which the CCP has done over the past 50 years.
LOL! HAHAHA i WILL NEVER SAY I'M CHINESE wHO ARE YOU TO TELL US WHO WE ARE?? we have our own religeon our own language, our own flag. We are nothing like you!! GOSH. tibetans belive in religeon and peace. China doiesn't even have democracy.
I do agree with your point that Western leaders are making a political show out of most of this, as I doubt they can even point out where Tibet is. But as Chinese ourselves, we must not be blinded by nationalism
the struggle of Tibetans have always existed, and part of the reason why China is under attack these days its because "improving human rights" was part of China's commitment in applying for the host of Olympics, and how much effort did the gov. put in?
Living in Canada, we face up to the issue of Quebec (one of the largest provinces) seperation all the time, where the French heritage always struggled to incorporate into the predominant Anglophone society of Canada.
Quebec is still a part of Canada today, but guess why? Because Canadian government offered them a referendum and the ppl of Quebec voted to stay in Canada.
But you see, NO ONE in china ever gets to vote, so how can Chinese ppl give Tibet freedom, when we dont have it ourselves
Although i am chinese, I support the liberation of Tibet. Nationalistic and blinded Chinese thinks everything belong to china, and sadly there is little the world can do about it. But keep your faith up!
Chinese don't have democracy ourselves, so it is impossible for us to provide that to you lol
I agree with you that there is not a perfect government in the world, but that doesn't justify the fact taht China has lack of human rights, and a government with no democracy.
I am sure if you tried hard enough, you can probably name some government or state worse than Nazi Germany, but does that mean we shouldnt critize Hitler or the Nazi party?
Further, so what if its protests during Olympics? does it mean that just because its a sport event - people can turn a blind eye on human rights? on freedom? seeing that me and you (the video host) are similar age and students of America, I am suprised that you have not inherited or learned the values of the west.
Lastly, just because China's government wont ever respond to Tibetan, it doesnt mean that they should stop. Just like the crisis in Darfur, we must continue to fight for whats right
this is another point where I disagree with you. China is regulating their government. Although you may know of the dalai lama's rule, you must understand that Tibet has been part of china since forever. It is I'm history books. If you're Chinese you should know the tale of the monkey king traveling to Tibet. Tibet was always been part of china. It is just the misconception of the rulers. They are all regulated the same for hundreds of years.
It saddens me that you drew conclusion from the tale of the monkey king and not some historical texts or scholars
Before you make another argument, just check wikipedia for some breif knowledge, to add on to your point of the "tale of Monkey king" when they meant the monkey king traveling to "the west" for a sacred relic... they meant India (originator of budahism) for the relic (holy text)
you obviously dont know how to read chinese then, furthermore, atleast wiki has cited sources and references
"the West" refers to India man... I know asian americans these days probably dont know chinese, just because theres is a west sound in tibet (pronounced in Chinese), doesnt mean its the west refered to by the novel.
Atlast, even if the West does in fact refer to Tibet, it doesn't mean that Tibet is an integral part of China.
Just think, if it was always a part of China.. why does the Communist Government of China have to invade Tibet in the 1959 and fought a war wtih them??
Does America and its troops ever invade California??
In the 13th century Tibet became a part of ethnic Mongol-ruled Chinese state. Four centuries later Tibet was further incorporated into China when the Eemperor of Qing dynasty established the Dalai Lama as both the spiritual leader and political leader of Tibet. [2] [3] Between the 17th century and 1951, the Dalai Lama and his regents were the predominant political power administering religious and administrative authority[4] over large parts of Tibet from the traditional capital Lhasa.
Bahaahahahahah. china drove away slave holders and freed 95% of the people of tibet. you sound so much like imperialistic japan that its not even funny. According to your logic, if 95% of so called slaves were freed why are they fighting the ccp, your logic ends here. I dare you stare and watch a tibetan being horribly tortured by ccp in front of your eyes. if you have the guts to do that, try witnessing thousands of tibets toruted in 1950s bieng horribly persecuted for no reason
The 95% of slaves were born before 1959. They would be at least 49 years or older by now, and that's a generous evaluation considering many former slaves were born before 1959. How many Tibetans protesting are over 49 years old? You spoke too soon; his logic does NOT end there. LOL
it still does not make sense, if 95% of the oldie tibetans believed that chinese liberated them, then how is it possible that the new generation are against chinese rule; surely if the grandpa tibetans were happy to be free of so called dala lama oppressive rule; then they would convey their message to sons and grandsons. What you said still does not add up. Their are still a lot of holes in such logic
Yes, and that's the puzzling part. Maybe they don't listen - similar to how I don't listen when my parents keep telling me that they walked 6 km to and back from school every day and it was uphill both ways lol
On a more serious note:
The sad fact is, there are still human rights abuses in many countries, and China is no exception. Any testimony from the family member of a human rights abuse victim is moving - enough to push some to protest.
The problem with citing testimony, as moving as it is, is that there is such testimony for both sides of the argument; the testimony of the tortured weighed against the testimony of the saved. It is just too divided to be used as s sole source: someone might provide testimony of a Tibetan who claims was captured and tortured for 6 years, and then someone else might provide testimony of another Tibetan who claims was liberated from slaveholders. Then what? Accusations of lying?
As a chinese myself, i don't see whats wrong with the "Free-tibet" protesters, because they are right, the communist China INVADED their homeland in the 1950s and drove out the Dalai Lahma, so they have every reason and right to protest.
Yes I do believe in voicing your opinions, but I believe that you are not understanding the "bigger" picture. People around the world are using this issue to attempt to stop the Beijing olympics from occuring. This is a fact. Many countries doesn't want olympics to occur not for their human rights but for their jealosy of china from prospering.
Agreed. BTW Do you know that Tibet was under Serf system and more than 90% of Tibetant were slave in the old day under Dalai Lama ruling. Tibetant are happier than those old days.
HAhaaaa Youngman really you need to go brushe up your VOICE ....I appreciate your opinoin but at the same time i do really feel sorry for your shallow knwledge about TIBET : YOU ARE NOW IN SAN FRANCISCO WHY DON´T YOU GO FOR REAL KNOWLEDGE BECOS YOU GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO STUDY IN U:S:A
SORRY FOR YOUR COUNTRY AND IT´S MILLOINS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE :
China is only doing in Tibet what other countries would do to keep its country together. What do you think America would do if South Carolina wanted to break away form the United States? How quick we forget 4 dead in Ohio
China is a very beautiful and loving country.
What would happen if the Hawaiian people wanted America out? Would America just leave?
Or would the Untied States put down the up rising by any means.
Let me agree for a second that Tibet is part of China for the sake of debate.How can China have this all uniting and happy gettogether game of olympics and have Tibetan people's Genocide at the same time.We just couldn't allow it because we believe in standing up and letting China know that it is not acceptable to just kill people for just standing up for your right.Instead of your blind PATROITISM,i ask why don't you ask your government WHY all the atrocities and organ harvesting of falon gong
Even Chinese ppl aren't free ourselves, how can we provide Tibetans with freedom?
The old aristocracy must definitely not be allowed, but it doesn't mean we turn a blind eye to China's government. Atlast, Dalai Lahma himself said "Tibet must remain under China" so it is only a problem of china improving its all-so-terrible human rights issues
hey buddy i agree what you said is your opinion but behind that there is so much your CCP govt propagenda that blind your's eyes. you read about chinese history. but have you ever try to look at tibetan history and try to listen tibetan pain... good luck with your CCP history....tibet is not part of china never gonna part of china...
You cannot believe everything the Dalai Lama said. China has been with Tibet for the longest time. You must get know that people of tibet hold China passports, etc. Get your facts straight before you come insulting other's videos.
Haha Seeing those comments I found it really important to cite reliable sources when people just comment on things they don't really know.. and taking politics so simply.
Where did you learn your Chinese history? I agree that Tibet and China have had ties for a very long time but hey they are right next to one another, it does not mean that one rules the other. Tibet in the 19th century sent diplomats to other countries independently of China and if they have been so interconnected, why have no Han Chinese every lived inside Tibet before the PRC began. If they have been connected for as long as you state I would expect a melting pot not a segregated society.
Have you ever been in China? Not only Tibet, but other folks, they have their own culture, we have 56 folks in China, and each of them remains as they were during the past long history, for example Mongolics still lead a nomadism life, riding hourses,living on the grassland, speaking Mongolian, they have their own way of living, and own society, so dose every peoples and folks else.
We do not do merging things, we want our country diversity and having many diferent cultures instead of just one, that's the way we respect them., and maybe you guys can't quite understand, but please do not judge the others by your own way of thinking, there is no united standard in this world, and what you don't understand dose not mean it is wrong.
you guys really believe that the people protest Beijing Olympics because they all care about the human rights in Tibet?I believe that some people are yelling:"Free Tibet",not because of the human rights problems,but because Tibet is part of China, because they don't like Chinese, because they don't understand Chinese culture, because they want everyone else to be as same as they are, because they can't be tolerant to the differences,because they don't pay attention to what other people's saying.
Yeah probably we might not be able to stop the ccp govt from doing the things they do to the tibetans in tibet and the chinese but it also brings awareness. were protesting to say that China is getting the chance to have this great platform to show the world tht they are at the top but in order to be at the top they must first respect thier own citizens. the olympics charter is about peace and unity and obviously the recent riots in tibet and outside of tibet shows tht still theres none of tht.
ummm... I'm sorry to say this but u kept talking about how this event is supposed to be a good opportunity for countries to unite/ unify- but where's the unity when innocent Tibetan people are getting killed. (sounds like oppression to me...MY opinion) Those people were protesting in SF not cuz the Chinese gvt isn't perfect, but to try and make a point which is... that the Olympics shouldn't be held in a country that doesn't display or adhere to the olympic values like human rights and unity.
so because the US messed up, that somehow gives China a pass to mess up too? and it makes it OK???? and I'm sorry, but the last time I checked, "Asia" was a continent...not a type of person. Besides, why are you so shocked that Asian ppl were there? not like we gotta agree with China JUST cuz we're Asian.
first off, I'm not defending the US or saying that what they did was right. What neither country is doing is right. I think the Iraq war is BS too- innocent ppl are getting killed and mistreated there as well. I'm not against China as a country cuz I don't know China as a country like you might know China, but I know that what they are doing is wrong. Let me ask you this, can you justify/explain why innocent tibetan ppl are being killed in China? What's the reason...
Why don't those protestors protest in Real Tibet rather than in California Republic? European invaded California 200 years ago, there were no human rights for those native indians. Millions were killed. It's called genocide now. Free California!
Everyone is free to voice their opinions- that is the great thing about freedom. Yet I find it strange so many people have an opinion on Tibet, yet they have never been there and have never met a Tibetan in their life. They may want to ask Tibetans what they'd like, instead of telling them what to do.
I don't know what he was talking about. He will understand after 20 years later. (Little knowledge is dangerous) We Asian? what you meant by that?? you meant Asian are Chinese only. What about Japanese who kick the butt of Chinese and Taiwanese Burma Phil, India..... What you know about Olympic butthead?
These kids are breathing American Air and saying Chinese air is better than American's.
As I said before, I think most of the protesters are straight up retarded. I was reading SFgate, one guy ran into the torch-supporter and started yelling "Communists!", even after that he had to nerve to say "If you want to olympics in china, then you should go back to china" after he got punched in the face.
Though I don't agree with your protesting doesnt change anything thing, but thats just me. And yeah, they shouldn't be using the Olympics as a like target for all the tibet stuff.
Coolboyalex, that was cool indeed, speaking your mind like this. As you would want others to check their facts, you should also check your facts and learn about others' issues. The banile imperfect Chinese government has arrested more than a thousand and killed over a hundred Tibetans in the last three weeks. Should this be ignored because "no govt is perfect"?
scotgame..I WANNA ASK U THE SAME QUESTOIN TO U..DID U EVER BEEN TO TIBET..DID U EVEN KNOW HOW DEEP IS THE RELATION BETWEEN TIBETAN AND DALAI LAMA??so many disappeared after they told the truth..situation in tibet..DO U KNOW WHO IS THE WORLD'S YOUNGEST PRISONER??6 years old Gedun Choki Nyima..the Penchen lama with his family disappeared in 1995..I'M SAYING THESE NOT FROM MEDIA BECOS I BEEN THERE..dats why ppl fear to tell the truth ..dis is fact..AND DONT TRY TO BE A TIBETAN KNOWING EVERYTHING.
I've watched your other videos before. They were all very controvercial like this one, but i support you all the way on this issue because many people don't know what they are doing protesting... all they know is to say "FREE TIBET" well guess what, what if hawaii strikes? will china have "FREE HAWAII" signs? that's preposterous.
You're absolutely right. It's about time people shed the light about the truth of China. They must use another event to channel their dislikes for their government system. No government system is perfect. Those people at the protests shouldn't just go protesting without knowing what a bad place it is to protest. This event is about unity and they are killing its meaning and the "face" of the Olympics.
White Americans have never...and I mean ever...killed any natives, we made friends with them and we've saved all the blacks from Africa away from their poverty and disease. Ku Klux Klan was a peaceful organization that greatly improved the lives of many many African-Americans. You chinese should learn from us.
kelloggcerealxoxo 1 year ago
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Not some people are disagree with you. Everybody is disagree with you. Chinese killed more than 1 Million Tibetan and still more Tibetan people dieing in Tibet. The video is not only offensive to Tibetan people. Its also Offensive to Most of world such as Jews. When Nazi killed more than 6 million Jews, other country helped Jews to get their Independent Life. My innocent grandpa got shot by Chinese solider during protesting. YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THE HUMAN RIGHTS.
TibKidd 1 year ago
Not some people are disagree with you. Everybody is disagree with you. Chinese killed more than 1 Million Tibetan and still more Tibetan people dieing in Tibet. The video is not only offensive to Tibetan people. Its also Offensive to Most of world such as Jews. When Nazi killed more than 6 million Jews, other country helped Jews to get their Independent Life. My innocent grandpa got shot by Chinese solider during protesting. YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THE HUMAN RIGHTS.
TibKidd 1 year ago
duhhh lol
yeshik1 1 year ago
Hey man pull your head out your azz. Go back to China if you think China is great. Sending troops to invade Tibet in 1950's and declared that tibet is always been apart of CHINA. Hey gay boy, just to let you know China don't accept gay people like you
YuDumPhuck 1 year ago
hey man.....you know what TIBET AND CHINA ARE TWO DIFFERENT NATION...i know they are neighboring country and live side by side from and history...I speak tibetan not chinese...i have my own way of life and all aspects of life are different from china...i think you are high school student...so you dont really understand the conflict....better study history with more reliable source....
spirit31475 2 years ago
Yeah, u do hav ur language other than Chinese. But its not tibetan, it is ENGLISH!
klvipabc 1 year ago
@spirit31475 If he is a high school student then you must be in kindergarden. Just because tibetans don't speak chinese and have differnt way of life, it means China and Tibetan are two nations? LOL China has 56 ethnic groups and 90% of them have their own languages(or dialects) and ways of life. Does it mean they are all different nations ? You point is just laughable. You are the one who needs to learn history, even the title of DALAI LAMA was granted by ancient chinese emperors, retard.
NasDa 1 year ago
@NasDa hahahaa..man for your kind information the Title Dalai Lama was given by Mongolian emperor...not your UNcle Mao or other chinese...The tibetans have a very proud and rich culture...Actually Quingai,Yunan,Gansu and Sichaun are all part of Tibet...the PRC has just divided in to these province...i will taech you history if you want to learn...free of cost...dont learn Mao or Hu jintao's written history book...hahaha
spirit31475 1 year ago
@spirit31475 You don't know there are 56 ethnics groups in China and Mongolian is one of them? Yes, the title of Dalai Lama was granted by Mongolian emperor, Altan Khan, who was the grandson of the ancient emperor of Yuan Dynasty. The city Hohhot, was founded by him, is the capital city of Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region which is a province of China. I have been there and seen for myself when you probably don't know where it is on the map. So just shut up and piss off.
NasDa 1 year ago
@spirit31475 Still your comment of "If Tibet is a part of China, it should be called China" still makes my day. I am still lmao when I think anybody can say such thing. That is just beyond retardness and idiocy LOL.
NasDa 1 year ago
omg, one more chinese propaganda videos..
chinnese tries to defend themselves so hard..haha
liars
lhagyalo 2 years ago
You sound like a faggot.
VaginalBros 2 years ago
first - you a funny as looking kid lookin like yao ming lil brother n shitt - newayz dey don't have the best human rights policy? no where near good dic head - ur gov. kills der own ppl - find out the real truth buddy - they brain wash yo dum ass - im tibetan and i KNOW my history you don't know half the things they use to do to torture tibetans FOR NO DAM REASON !! FREE TIBET p.s. and they still killing ppl over there as we speak god bless the unfortunate
tdirtyb 2 years ago
Please learn proper English before you divulge yourself into a topic that requires research and credibility. I was simply criticizing the scenes that anti-olympic have caused. Oh yeah. Tibet has always been a part of China. It's not politically, but that's how it has always been, and how it will always will be.
coolb0yalex 2 years ago
omg! yeah its unifying and a great symbol but if you came into your place for a party and saw dead bodies lying around would you want to celebrate?
Find out some more information before you geve such an uninformed opinion!
ylime005 2 years ago
agreed, little boy! tibetans who protested against the olympic with all that violence only accomplised on thing; getting arrested, which is ironic. you sound like you're reading it all off paper ^^ very good.
eciIa89 2 years ago
the protesters were pay to protest!!!
codeagent47 2 years ago
the protector was pay to protect!!!
codeagent47 2 years ago
your neighbor takes over your house(China), kills few of your relatives(tibet), and then the whole blocks throws a party for your neighbor.(olympics) NICE.... REALLY NICE...
87662635636 3 years ago
Tibet will be Free from brutal Chinese Government's occupation.
China will change.
The world sees the truth.
Chinese Communist Party can no longer keep its citizens in dark.
Chinese will see the truth, what their communist party has done in their party's name.
You very much in need to see this with your eyes before you make up such opinion
FightTyranny 3 years ago
your opinion is completely racist,whacked,baseless,lack of knowledge ...and bravo! your really got the genes of your country ,,the genes of lie (by saying you have very good knowledge of your country)do you know how your goverment play with innocent country to loot their natural asset.you were really hurt by the just protest against your country ..think how many tibetan people were tortured,abused,killed by your goverment...i am not saying all chinese people are bad but your goverment got probl
tashirule 3 years ago 2
I understand where you come from, from any neutral point of view, this does seem absurd, yet as a Chinese, I would say the stand-off with the "Free Tibetians" protest is right. Have your heard of "propaganda"? It's a extreme form of politics, and if we allow the Tibetians to keep protesting alone, the world will only hear one side of the story, and think they know the whole truth! But it is not (as you said), so we got to show the world our opinions to give them a choice to judge
xuci111111 3 years ago
Kid! Do you know anything about your own country? SAD* Did you not see the way your people killed Tibetan people during those days when China took over Tibet? Disgusting. How human can do such things to other human. GO CHINa IS Basically means, KILL PEOPLE. dude.You should check the history of tibet before you make a comment about china being all goody goody. thanx buddy
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DAZAIN 3 years ago 9
did the british not take over the land of the united states? i as an american is worst than the chinese who is taking what is rightfuly theirs. on the other hand, other countries got it worst. americans just cant stand seeing china win for once.
coolb0yalex 2 years ago
Go back to china if you think china is great. Why is your GAY CHINK's ass in America anyways. Is it because China don't accept faggot like you? Asian people like me hate chinese and china. China is the shithole of Asia!!!
YuDumPhuck 1 year ago
That's your opinion on China. By saying Go China = Kil people you are denying the birth rights of all humans to be patriotic for their country. Nationalism is allowed and encouraged everywhere. Why must Chinese not be allowed to root for their own country? It's because of hypocrites like you, the Free Tibet movement didn't get anywhere. Your logic held no weight. No one even talks about Free TIbet anymore. TOTAL FAILURE on your retards' part.
ChinaKillsTerrorists 1 year ago
Should've just said you saw Chinese at the event instead of a broad term like Asian. Especially when you're talking about an isolated event.
goldmagistrate 3 years ago 2
Pioerdol się komunisto !!! Ty jebany skurwielu. Free to Tibet and die to China ! Fuck you ! >:(
orkako 3 years ago
dude i agree. tibet needs china anyways. And the olympics shouldnt be dragged into this. btw, this is eddie lee from cornerstone..long time no see. CHECK OUT MY VIDEOS!
2KgADay 3 years ago
YOu are saying the right things but then U know what? China is actually using the Olympic as a political tool to show the world that they have done the right things. I am sure you are Chinese but i also know you are born in this country and should give more interest in reality than just bised for your parents country, China.
karma79 3 years ago
An excellent video, Alex. The whole point of the Olympics is for nations to SET ASIDE their differences and come together, if not just for one summer, and engage in friendly competition.
Tibet was a suzerainty of China for a very long time. While I do not agree with Communism, people should take a look at Tibet's history as well. Clerics living in opulence while their people reside in squalor?
People need to see that Tibet wasn't exactly Eden.
ICXCNIKA84 3 years ago
olympic flame symbolises peace,justice and freedom.How can IOC do such injustice by giving China this chance?
The actual blending of politics and sports is done by china.Whats the need of bringing torch to tibet even the place was under problem.
hey alex,u need to re study the history of china and tibet beyond govt censored text.Tibet was a country with their own history,culture,national anthem,currency and language.Unfortunately,China invaded that religious country in 1949.FREEE CHINAAA!!!
loveudrogba 3 years ago
olympic 2008 beijing is a unique chance to understand china!
there are too much distortion and misunderstand about this big country !
Go beijing ! go 2008 olympic!
onechina2008 3 years ago
you're right. all this protesting against the chinese government is obscene. with such a government as this and with such people as you who can't seem to get it through your thick heads that no tibetans will accept themselves to be called chinese or live under chinese rule; there is only one option left. to kill. i hope one day the educated people in china can change the wrong mentality of the chinese ppl or else i can see nothing but bloodshed in the future.
tcl83 3 years ago
your voice got deeper when compared with your Ivy video.
goldmagistrate 3 years ago
by the Chinese government and of course then by IOC. IOC said to have granted China this opportunity in the hope of improving China's human rights conditions, it was stated by IOC itself. China again wants to show the world that it is not only a 'normal' country but also 'glorious' nation while it is massacring the people of Tibet. "Tibet is part of China" is nothing but your igorance...the truth is China occupied the country brutally by killing hundreds of thousands of Tibetans in 1950s
tsawatashi 3 years ago
I am sick and tired of hearing this statement that sport should not be mixed with politics every time when free-tibet activists protest against China's killings in Tibet. From IOC president to the Chinese government, and now this kid is parroting the mantra. Look, Olympics has historically been politicized if you look back, ever since 1936 during the time of Hitler, later during the Soviet Union. (Have a look of the history of Olympics). Secondly, the politicization of 2008 Olympics was done
tsawatashi 3 years ago
olympic belongs to chinese people and not goverment of china why dont you just get it???... boycott beijing olympic u will hurt feelings of chinese people...
doooooohh 3 years ago
give usa back to indians and we give tibet back to tibetian people...
doooooohh 3 years ago
This is absurd, although I agree that what the Caucasians did to the Natives were absolutely wrong, you have to realize that was centuries ago. Times have changed, people have changed, it's 2008.
tibgurl08 3 years ago
it's said how young you are and yet supporting wrong doing of your country based on wrong things thought to you. research little more before you become heroic fighter just as many japanese young man did during the world war2. they thought they were doing the right thing for the world too. they thought (because they were tought like that in japan) they were freeing china from westerners.
yodalover2 3 years ago 6
While it is true Tibetans are a different race than China, the fact remains that Tibet has been part of China since its invasion during the Yuan dynasty. Tibet from that point on had always been under China, so to speak, and in 1912 when China's civil war took off was when China stopped its influence on Tibet. Until 1951 Tibet was allowed to makes its own decisions and then China again began its influence in Tibet. So do this 38 year period of time qualify tibet as being a sovereign state?
Spike5143 3 years ago
Personally I dont believe so and neither do many other countries out there. Most countries agree that Tibet is still a part of China and that they have never established any government relations with Tibet. Since I dont know much about the human rights aspect of this argument I wont try to make a point on that. But from what I have perceived it seems that Tibetans are a bit discriminated against in China and I dont support that discrimination.
Spike5143 3 years ago
I don't know when this trend began that the Yuan Dynasty was a Chinese Dynasty. The Yuan Dynasty was in fact a Mongolian Dynasty in which both China and Tibet had been under.
tibgurl08 3 years ago
You're Chinese, you're obviously going to side with your country. If Tibet remains part of China, just know that Tibetans are a completely different race of people than the Chinese, we have our own culture, religion, and language.
My 2 cents.
niznet84 3 years ago
according to your concept of race, I am not chinese either, but the concept you use is not used here. China has a "one china doctrine" that existed for at least 3 thousands years. So this one china doctrine overwrite any racial difference, any geographic difference and huge culture differences among chinese people. China's one china policy is just a modern words of old doctrine. and it is no way a commuist party's creative invention and brainwash. if no CCP, tibet still part of china.
micathia 3 years ago
I agree with your idea of unification and how it's being ruined. I don't get what was the point when you said Tibet and China were together for a long long time... are you supporting the fact that China is taking over Tibet? Because if you are, that is the worst reason to have. The entire western Asia was once owned by the Persians however it doesn't qualify them to claim it back now.
farazag10 3 years ago
Tibetan have more right than other Chinese in China, they can have as many kids they want, they have a higher priority to enter university, most Tibetan are happy there.
jet9508 3 years ago
your soo typical. you don't understand because You think human rights and Freedom means having how much ev er babies and bieng able to go to universities. But For tibetans human rights and freedom means being able to practice our religeon and being able to have dalailamas picture. you don't KNow anything.
sewshe08 3 years ago 2
Tibetans are allowed to have two children per family. They don't have a higher priority to enter universities. The majority of Tibetans don't speak or understand Chinese. Many parents can't afford for their children to go to school to learn Chinese. Therefore, they can't make money and they are discriminated against by the Han Chinese who have migrated there.
tibgurl08 3 years ago
You say the Olympics is a sporting event and it is supposed to deliver a message of peace and unity in the world... but guess what? 5 months before the Olympics, the Chinese government is hellbent on cracking down in Tibet and spreading propaganda on its media making baseless accusations.
splittist 3 years ago
China itself boycotted the Olympics several times in protest of Taiwan. To say that the olympics "should not be mixed with politics" is hypocritical and mere rhetoric of the Chinese governments propaganda machine.
splittist 3 years ago
Go China! We support you!
justhonest1 3 years ago
Then US belongs to Native Americans and Indians.
IDIOT.
coolb0yalex 3 years ago
Is this kid on crack or something; china invaded and got away with one of the most bloodiest genocide in history in 1950s. India, india of all countries has much more ties to tibet than china but india does not go around parading tibet belongs to us. to say tibet is part of china is to also say that arunachal pradeshs is part of china which is in india territory. go fuck yourself china, no more of your land grabs will be tolerated
mechysonu 3 years ago 2
In the 13th century Tibet became a part of ethnic Mongol-ruled Chinese state. Four centuries later Tibet was further incorporated into China when the Eemperor of Qing dynasty established the Dalai Lama as both the spiritual leader and political leader of Tibet. [2] [3] Between the 17th century and 1951, the Dalai Lama and his regents were the predominant political power administering religious and administrative authority[4] over large parts of Tibet from the traditional capital Lhasa.
via wiki
coolb0yalex 3 years ago
You mean the genocide in which 1.2 million Tibetans were killed?
The same genocide that the Dalai Lama thought happened only after he looked at the population report from China?
The same genocide that is universally discredited even among Free Tibet scholars?
Kyriaeus 3 years ago
You shouldn't believe just what I say, or just what the Free Tibet websites say. Search up 'Patrick French,' a former Free-Tibet supporter, who was given exclusive access to the Dalai Lama's evidence for his claim on the genocide of 1.2 million people.
Kyriaeus 3 years ago
Thank you for posting this. Most people have no idea what they are talking about. They will protest something else next year that they don't understand. (BTW, I'm not Asian, I'm a white guy in USA).
saved2play 3 years ago
Yep. Most people don't know what they are protesting, but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be protesting either.
androidtv 3 years ago
Hmm. I'm not sure about that. If you "accidentally" protest for what is in actuality a good cause, and someone challenges you on it, how can you possibly make your case to them? Is protest about affecting change or merely expressing discontent? (or both?) Watching protesters not being able to find Tibet on a map is kind of a turn-off if I'm somebody who doesn't know which way to think.
saved2play 3 years ago
My first post didn't go through... I wanted to say that even though Tibet has been ruled by China for centuries, does not mean they should automatically accept it. It's easy for you to say that they should because you aren't in their situation.
You say that there are no perfect gov'ts... true, but some are worse than others. One doesn't have to look any further than Zimbabwe to recognize this.
hspc300 3 years ago
Also, hosting the Olympics is a PRIVILEGE, and lots of opening ceremonies, not to mention entire competitions, have been boycotted in the past. The PRC itself has boycotted Olympic numerous times in the past, mostly over Taiwan, and also in 1980 (along with 62 other countries) over the Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan. So I find this ridiculously hypocritical. Talk about history... try learning some modern history.
hspc300 3 years ago
That does not justify ANYONE's action just someone boycotted the Olympic in the past. His point here is merely we shouldnt mix politics with sport, doesnt mater who's hosting it. You're saying it's right to boycott China's olympic because the have boycotted the Olympic in the past? It's like saying Jewish have the right to kill anyone they want, because they have been suppressed and murdured by every nation around the world? One evil does not justify another evil, and it never will.
pg955203 3 years ago
Your opinion that the Olympics and politics are separate are clearly not shared by most people or govts. Why do you think countries try so hard to have the honor of hosting it? Just to make money? Come on... it is a matter of PRESTIGE, and I think it's perfectly legitimate to boycott them (which I think can hardly be considered an act of "evil"). After all, people's LIVES are more important than a week of GAMES. And it's worth disrupting the games to put additional pressure on govts to improve.
hspc300 3 years ago
Thanks for you video. Tibet is free. I support the Olympics in Beijing!
Turboedo 3 years ago
I support you, Alex. Olympics is Olympics, not a tool, but a great party of people from all over the world. i give some suggestions to people who hate China or its government, is, going to China. Go and ask if Chinese people are satisfy with their government. It is really not that bad. And, do you think it is really easy to deal with such large population of China? And do you think China is developed enough as well as Western Countries? Please give patience and show some respect.
alex9685 3 years ago
Dear Alex, I am tibetan and firmly believe that tibet is never a part of china. Anyhow after going through your video I think that you are new generation chinese who are more open hearted. I feel u r sincere. I don't blame u for your lack of information on Tibet. We are not asking for complete independent. We very much would like to be with you guys only if ur government treat us equally and give us right to religion. In whole genuine autonomy. Love to talk more
sheyonder 3 years ago 2
ccp killed hundreds of thousands tibetans over 50 yrs? you know your western militaries led by the US killed 1.2mil in iraq over what 5-6 years?
evilorange1983 3 years ago
you got your facts wrong again. you need to turn off that communist tv news. 1.2 mil died but not killed by us army. all the civil war caused the deaths.
goodfellowaabye 3 years ago
China's a great land ruled by a brutal regime, the Chinese Communist Party. The CCP has killed 65-80 million people, more than any regime in history. Now the CCP uses the Olympics to stir up Chinese nationalism, which it manipulates to validate and strengthen its hold on China. It's important to distinguish the CCP and China. Also, Tibet may have been a part of China historically, but it's still wrong to kill hundreds of thousands of Tibetan people, which the CCP has done over the past 50 years.
gu8in 3 years ago
I bet you that Chinese will make a scene at the Olympic opening ceremony by boo-ing Japan, USA, France, and possibly UK.
androidtv 3 years ago
very true totally agree to ya coolb0yalex
hope i can go to San fransisco
..is that how you spell it?
alicelin1990 3 years ago
LOL! HAHAHA i WILL NEVER SAY I'M CHINESE wHO ARE YOU TO TELL US WHO WE ARE?? we have our own religeon our own language, our own flag. We are nothing like you!! GOSH. tibetans belive in religeon and peace. China doiesn't even have democracy.
sewshe08 3 years ago
u missed ur slaves didnt u?
dodomuro 3 years ago
"China doiesn't even have democracy."
Remember, Dalai-Lama Tibet are even worse, it was a theocracy, not much difference from the taliban-style govt.
and you, you've even never been in Tibet :) I don't think you have any right to speak for the true tibetans. :) it's all fake..
giovaniceva 3 years ago
it's true. life under dalai lama was probably worse off
goodfellowaabye 3 years ago
I do agree with your point that Western leaders are making a political show out of most of this, as I doubt they can even point out where Tibet is. But as Chinese ourselves, we must not be blinded by nationalism
the struggle of Tibetans have always existed, and part of the reason why China is under attack these days its because "improving human rights" was part of China's commitment in applying for the host of Olympics, and how much effort did the gov. put in?
ric0211 3 years ago
Living in Canada, we face up to the issue of Quebec (one of the largest provinces) seperation all the time, where the French heritage always struggled to incorporate into the predominant Anglophone society of Canada.
Quebec is still a part of Canada today, but guess why? Because Canadian government offered them a referendum and the ppl of Quebec voted to stay in Canada.
But you see, NO ONE in china ever gets to vote, so how can Chinese ppl give Tibet freedom, when we dont have it ourselves
ric0211 3 years ago
what make you think that chinese ppl have no right to vote?
h2so463 3 years ago
lol,
you are right, Chinese ppl have SoooooO much rights and freedom man~
We are like the freest and most democratic nation in the world
ric0211 3 years ago
lol if china's soo great why don't you go back to China??
sewshe08 3 years ago
Man chill out,
I was being sarcastic
Although i am chinese, I support the liberation of Tibet. Nationalistic and blinded Chinese thinks everything belong to china, and sadly there is little the world can do about it. But keep your faith up!
Chinese don't have democracy ourselves, so it is impossible for us to provide that to you lol
ric0211 3 years ago
support coolb0yalex
suntube2 3 years ago
I agree with you that there is not a perfect government in the world, but that doesn't justify the fact taht China has lack of human rights, and a government with no democracy.
I am sure if you tried hard enough, you can probably name some government or state worse than Nazi Germany, but does that mean we shouldnt critize Hitler or the Nazi party?
ric0211 3 years ago
Further, so what if its protests during Olympics? does it mean that just because its a sport event - people can turn a blind eye on human rights? on freedom? seeing that me and you (the video host) are similar age and students of America, I am suprised that you have not inherited or learned the values of the west.
Lastly, just because China's government wont ever respond to Tibetan, it doesnt mean that they should stop. Just like the crisis in Darfur, we must continue to fight for whats right
ric0211 3 years ago
this is another point where I disagree with you. China is regulating their government. Although you may know of the dalai lama's rule, you must understand that Tibet has been part of china since forever. It is I'm history books. If you're Chinese you should know the tale of the monkey king traveling to Tibet. Tibet was always been part of china. It is just the misconception of the rulers. They are all regulated the same for hundreds of years.
coolb0yalex 3 years ago
It saddens me that you drew conclusion from the tale of the monkey king and not some historical texts or scholars
Before you make another argument, just check wikipedia for some breif knowledge, to add on to your point of the "tale of Monkey king" when they meant the monkey king traveling to "the west" for a sacred relic... they meant India (originator of budahism) for the relic (holy text)
ric0211 3 years ago
it was an example and also what makes wiki any more credible.
coolb0yalex 3 years ago
also the west is Tibet if its translated into Chinese.
coolb0yalex 3 years ago
you obviously dont know how to read chinese then, furthermore, atleast wiki has cited sources and references
"the West" refers to India man... I know asian americans these days probably dont know chinese, just because theres is a west sound in tibet (pronounced in Chinese), doesnt mean its the west refered to by the novel.
Atlast, even if the West does in fact refer to Tibet, it doesn't mean that Tibet is an integral part of China.
ric0211 3 years ago
Just think, if it was always a part of China.. why does the Communist Government of China have to invade Tibet in the 1959 and fought a war wtih them??
Does America and its troops ever invade California??
ric0211 3 years ago
In the 13th century Tibet became a part of ethnic Mongol-ruled Chinese state. Four centuries later Tibet was further incorporated into China when the Eemperor of Qing dynasty established the Dalai Lama as both the spiritual leader and political leader of Tibet. [2] [3] Between the 17th century and 1951, the Dalai Lama and his regents were the predominant political power administering religious and administrative authority[4] over large parts of Tibet from the traditional capital Lhasa.
via wiki
coolb0yalex 3 years ago
1. China never invaded tibet, just like US never invaded cali.
2. does civil war in US history means US should divide into 2 parts?
3. in 1959 Chinese gov drove the slave holders out of the country and freed 95% of the people intibet.
suntube2 3 years ago
suntube
Bahaahahahahah. china drove away slave holders and freed 95% of the people of tibet. you sound so much like imperialistic japan that its not even funny. According to your logic, if 95% of so called slaves were freed why are they fighting the ccp, your logic ends here. I dare you stare and watch a tibetan being horribly tortured by ccp in front of your eyes. if you have the guts to do that, try witnessing thousands of tibets toruted in 1950s bieng horribly persecuted for no reason
mechysonu 3 years ago
The 95% of slaves were born before 1959. They would be at least 49 years or older by now, and that's a generous evaluation considering many former slaves were born before 1959. How many Tibetans protesting are over 49 years old? You spoke too soon; his logic does NOT end there. LOL
Kyriaeus 3 years ago
it still does not make sense, if 95% of the oldie tibetans believed that chinese liberated them, then how is it possible that the new generation are against chinese rule; surely if the grandpa tibetans were happy to be free of so called dala lama oppressive rule; then they would convey their message to sons and grandsons. What you said still does not add up. Their are still a lot of holes in such logic
mechysonu 3 years ago 2
Yes, and that's the puzzling part. Maybe they don't listen - similar to how I don't listen when my parents keep telling me that they walked 6 km to and back from school every day and it was uphill both ways lol
On a more serious note:
The sad fact is, there are still human rights abuses in many countries, and China is no exception. Any testimony from the family member of a human rights abuse victim is moving - enough to push some to protest.
Kyriaeus 3 years ago
The problem with citing testimony, as moving as it is, is that there is such testimony for both sides of the argument; the testimony of the tortured weighed against the testimony of the saved. It is just too divided to be used as s sole source: someone might provide testimony of a Tibetan who claims was captured and tortured for 6 years, and then someone else might provide testimony of another Tibetan who claims was liberated from slaveholders. Then what? Accusations of lying?
Kyriaeus 3 years ago
you don't see any old Tibetan against Chinese government in Tibet. those young Tibetan oversea are exile Tibetan from rich families.
jet9508 3 years ago
As a chinese myself, i don't see whats wrong with the "Free-tibet" protesters, because they are right, the communist China INVADED their homeland in the 1950s and drove out the Dalai Lahma, so they have every reason and right to protest.
ric0211 3 years ago
Yes I do believe in voicing your opinions, but I believe that you are not understanding the "bigger" picture. People around the world are using this issue to attempt to stop the Beijing olympics from occuring. This is a fact. Many countries doesn't want olympics to occur not for their human rights but for their jealosy of china from prospering.
coolb0yalex 3 years ago
coolb0yalex,
Agreed. BTW Do you know that Tibet was under Serf system and more than 90% of Tibetant were slave in the old day under Dalai Lama ruling. Tibetant are happier than those old days.
khootn 3 years ago
HAhaaaa Youngman really you need to go brushe up your VOICE ....I appreciate your opinoin but at the same time i do really feel sorry for your shallow knwledge about TIBET : YOU ARE NOW IN SAN FRANCISCO WHY DON´T YOU GO FOR REAL KNOWLEDGE BECOS YOU GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO STUDY IN U:S:A
SORRY FOR YOUR COUNTRY AND IT´S MILLOINS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE :
Grandelbart 3 years ago
Protesters Awake
China is only doing in Tibet what other countries would do to keep its country together. What do you think America would do if South Carolina wanted to break away form the United States? How quick we forget 4 dead in Ohio
China is a very beautiful and loving country.
What would happen if the Hawaiian people wanted America out? Would America just leave?
Or would the Untied States put down the up rising by any means.
Sailboater100 3 years ago
Let me agree for a second that Tibet is part of China for the sake of debate.How can China have this all uniting and happy gettogether game of olympics and have Tibetan people's Genocide at the same time.We just couldn't allow it because we believe in standing up and letting China know that it is not acceptable to just kill people for just standing up for your right.Instead of your blind PATROITISM,i ask why don't you ask your government WHY all the atrocities and organ harvesting of falon gong
tthosem 3 years ago
So depressed to see your comment.
First there is no genocide at all(not in sudan).
What happened in tibet is really sad. Tibet is part of china. Some prople want to be the
landocrat again. China say no.Then they killed some han chinese. You still believe that the chinese goverment want it happen.
tibet is always a part of china and always free
yyf999111 3 years ago
Even Chinese ppl aren't free ourselves, how can we provide Tibetans with freedom?
The old aristocracy must definitely not be allowed, but it doesn't mean we turn a blind eye to China's government. Atlast, Dalai Lahma himself said "Tibet must remain under China" so it is only a problem of china improving its all-so-terrible human rights issues
ric0211 3 years ago
good opinion
h2so463 3 years ago
hey buddy i agree what you said is your opinion but behind that there is so much your CCP govt propagenda that blind your's eyes. you read about chinese history. but have you ever try to look at tibetan history and try to listen tibetan pain... good luck with your CCP history....tibet is not part of china never gonna part of china...
10zin1959 3 years ago
u r so great!!!
pinkberrydoll 3 years ago
You cannot believe everything the Dalai Lama said. China has been with Tibet for the longest time. You must get know that people of tibet hold China passports, etc. Get your facts straight before you come insulting other's videos.
coolb0yalex 3 years ago
good work and carry on....
springwolf001 3 years ago
Haha Seeing those comments I found it really important to cite reliable sources when people just comment on things they don't really know.. and taking politics so simply.
LoveShiya 3 years ago
Where did you learn your Chinese history? I agree that Tibet and China have had ties for a very long time but hey they are right next to one another, it does not mean that one rules the other. Tibet in the 19th century sent diplomats to other countries independently of China and if they have been so interconnected, why have no Han Chinese every lived inside Tibet before the PRC began. If they have been connected for as long as you state I would expect a melting pot not a segregated society.
tibchicky801 3 years ago 2
Have you ever been in China? Not only Tibet, but other folks, they have their own culture, we have 56 folks in China, and each of them remains as they were during the past long history, for example Mongolics still lead a nomadism life, riding hourses,living on the grassland, speaking Mongolian, they have their own way of living, and own society, so dose every peoples and folks else.
cucumartin 3 years ago
We do not do merging things, we want our country diversity and having many diferent cultures instead of just one, that's the way we respect them., and maybe you guys can't quite understand, but please do not judge the others by your own way of thinking, there is no united standard in this world, and what you don't understand dose not mean it is wrong.
cucumartin 3 years ago 2
you guys really believe that the people protest Beijing Olympics because they all care about the human rights in Tibet?I believe that some people are yelling:"Free Tibet",not because of the human rights problems,but because Tibet is part of China, because they don't like Chinese, because they don't understand Chinese culture, because they want everyone else to be as same as they are, because they can't be tolerant to the differences,because they don't pay attention to what other people's saying.
cucumartin 3 years ago 2
Yeah probably we might not be able to stop the ccp govt from doing the things they do to the tibetans in tibet and the chinese but it also brings awareness. were protesting to say that China is getting the chance to have this great platform to show the world tht they are at the top but in order to be at the top they must first respect thier own citizens. the olympics charter is about peace and unity and obviously the recent riots in tibet and outside of tibet shows tht still theres none of tht.
tibgurl08 3 years ago
ummm... I'm sorry to say this but u kept talking about how this event is supposed to be a good opportunity for countries to unite/ unify- but where's the unity when innocent Tibetan people are getting killed. (sounds like oppression to me...MY opinion) Those people were protesting in SF not cuz the Chinese gvt isn't perfect, but to try and make a point which is... that the Olympics shouldn't be held in a country that doesn't display or adhere to the olympic values like human rights and unity.
lchj87 3 years ago 2
then the US should never hold the olympics with troops that rape their attackees
coolb0yalex 3 years ago
so because the US messed up, that somehow gives China a pass to mess up too? and it makes it OK???? and I'm sorry, but the last time I checked, "Asia" was a continent...not a type of person. Besides, why are you so shocked that Asian ppl were there? not like we gotta agree with China JUST cuz we're Asian.
lchj87 3 years ago
then you are being a hypocrite seeing how you are still against China ad not every other country that has done wrong.
coolb0yalex 3 years ago
first off, I'm not defending the US or saying that what they did was right. What neither country is doing is right. I think the Iraq war is BS too- innocent ppl are getting killed and mistreated there as well. I'm not against China as a country cuz I don't know China as a country like you might know China, but I know that what they are doing is wrong. Let me ask you this, can you justify/explain why innocent tibetan ppl are being killed in China? What's the reason...
lchj87 3 years ago
the TGIE recieved huge budget surplus from the US last year, so ther have to figue out a way to spend the money from the US tax-payers.
ovsm 3 years ago
I am so pride of you being brave to tell the truth. I think your future will be very bright!
harbin88 3 years ago
Why don't those protestors protest in Real Tibet rather than in California Republic? European invaded California 200 years ago, there were no human rights for those native indians. Millions were killed. It's called genocide now. Free California!
iamokokok 3 years ago
you have a lot of red polo shirts.
LOL
I wish could of been there to see the Olympic Torch
ginaforever331 3 years ago
They can not say, are dying!
figueiredom 3 years ago
Everyone is free to voice their opinions- that is the great thing about freedom. Yet I find it strange so many people have an opinion on Tibet, yet they have never been there and have never met a Tibetan in their life. They may want to ask Tibetans what they'd like, instead of telling them what to do.
kaliyuga2008 3 years ago 2
I don't know what he was talking about. He will understand after 20 years later. (Little knowledge is dangerous) We Asian? what you meant by that?? you meant Asian are Chinese only. What about Japanese who kick the butt of Chinese and Taiwanese Burma Phil, India..... What you know about Olympic butthead?
These kids are breathing American Air and saying Chinese air is better than American's.
nudupdorjee 3 years ago
I was refering to the Chinese people protesting at the ceremony. Absolutely unprofessional. And wrong medium to protest again politics.
coolb0yalex 3 years ago
Great Post! I just couldn't believe there were so many bandwagon jumpers out there that had no clue what Tibet and China is about.
danny458 3 years ago
As I said before, I think most of the protesters are straight up retarded. I was reading SFgate, one guy ran into the torch-supporter and started yelling "Communists!", even after that he had to nerve to say "If you want to olympics in china, then you should go back to china" after he got punched in the face.
Though I don't agree with your protesting doesnt change anything thing, but thats just me. And yeah, they shouldn't be using the Olympics as a like target for all the tibet stuff.
robbit126 3 years ago
thanks, guy,
i did not hear any bias from your comment, i agree with your comment
rogerren78 3 years ago
Coolboyalex, that was cool indeed, speaking your mind like this. As you would want others to check their facts, you should also check your facts and learn about others' issues. The banile imperfect Chinese government has arrested more than a thousand and killed over a hundred Tibetans in the last three weeks. Should this be ignored because "no govt is perfect"?
ttsering 3 years ago
IOC should appoint Mia Farrow as its chief - under the slogan
"one family, one... dream".
got it?
bg24955 3 years ago
I AGREE WITH YOU! "free tibet" is just a joke.
Let me just ask those who want to support Dalai Lama or Tibet Independence some questions
Have you ever been to tibet?
Have you ever talked with tibetans in tibet publicly or privately?
Where did you get the info about tibet?
Currently,All info you have got just from one channal -- medium!!!
Do you still remember how the medium fool you guys on 2003 year about IRAQ?
Think through above questions,you make refresh your brian about this issues.
scotgame 3 years ago
scotgame..I WANNA ASK U THE SAME QUESTOIN TO U..DID U EVER BEEN TO TIBET..DID U EVEN KNOW HOW DEEP IS THE RELATION BETWEEN TIBETAN AND DALAI LAMA??so many disappeared after they told the truth..situation in tibet..DO U KNOW WHO IS THE WORLD'S YOUNGEST PRISONER??6 years old Gedun Choki Nyima..the Penchen lama with his family disappeared in 1995..I'M SAYING THESE NOT FROM MEDIA BECOS I BEEN THERE..dats why ppl fear to tell the truth ..dis is fact..AND DONT TRY TO BE A TIBETAN KNOWING EVERYTHING.
tsotube2 3 years ago
"You're not going to be able to stop a government by protesting"?
I think Martin Luther King would disagree, I think Gandhi would diagree!
Medeasbiggestfan 3 years ago 2
ROFL. you make me sick... =]
nchein 3 years ago
I've watched your other videos before. They were all very controvercial like this one, but i support you all the way on this issue because many people don't know what they are doing protesting... all they know is to say "FREE TIBET" well guess what, what if hawaii strikes? will china have "FREE HAWAII" signs? that's preposterous.
LordEmogen 3 years ago
You're absolutely right. It's about time people shed the light about the truth of China. They must use another event to channel their dislikes for their government system. No government system is perfect. Those people at the protests shouldn't just go protesting without knowing what a bad place it is to protest. This event is about unity and they are killing its meaning and the "face" of the Olympics.
LordEmogen 3 years ago