"There was no 'Bible' during the time of the Essenes, so to say 'no longer included' is to introduce a fallacious anachronism."
You Xtians sure like to get technical on some petty bullshit, all the while missing the EXTREMELY RIDICULOUS bullshit that is staring you in the face: The Garden of Eden, The Tower of Babel, and Noah's Ark. And, let's not forget Jesus, who is supposedly the same asshole of a god from the O.T. Your ancestors were conquered by assholes who forced this bullshit on them.
How dare are we to question what in Gods mind, it is beyond any humans concern. Its up to God to decide when he sees fits it, if he want to reveal the truth or not and we cannot simply just have exactly how we wanted things to be no matter what we do its a burden already inscribed in our destiny right before we first breath into this world, thats why we are destined to to commit mistake.
@jshjamaar How dare are we to question what in Gods mind, it is beyond any humans concern. Its up to God to decide when he sees fits it, if he want to reveal the truth or not and we cannot simply just have exactly how we wanted things to be no matter what we do its a burden already inscribed in our destiny right before we first breath into this world, thats why we are destined to to commit mistake.
2000 year old scrolls with no textual changes means that no new thinking happened in 2000 years. Generations of drones copied and copied and copied and copied without putting a thought into whether it made any sense or not.
Very, very sad. Archaeology has not proven religion. It as proven that religion is mindless repetition.
@chaosIsTheOnlyPower And what is wrong with believing in a way to live of love? I mean you would make a point if the bible was something evil. The problem is that evil person (Atheist-Luciferians) mind-control the population of the earth for millenia. This is why Jesus came i think. Because evil person was in control and still is. The best way to wake up to reality is to recognize the fact that the ideology of Atheism is what is destroying our civilization. Don't be against God to fast my friend
This does actually have a real source. Read the whole "Significant to the Canon of the Bible" part. There are two sources marked 21 and 22.
There is no excuse for you Christians and Jews. How can you possibly refute this?
Seriously, why do all you Christians and Jews say the scroll prove your point? It completely destroys your point. The Isaiah Scroll? That is only one out of 220 scrolls found. What about all the changes in the other ones?
“There's variance but basically you can hardly tell the difference..”
Biggest understatement of all time.
There's a critical difference in certain sections, notably, in Deuteronomy compared to what our edited versions say. There's even a debate going on as to if this religion even started out as monotheistic due to the scrolls. And he's telling us there's little difference? My God.
God has given man another glimpse into proof but people still dont want to belive how awesome and gracious God is to give us the same version wow haha Jesus is real and the world wont belieave hahahah how stupid peopleare praise God praise God ahahyeah
To release the oppressed= To free Palestine (Virgin Mary's people) No TRUE Christian can truly support Israel in their horror Genocide of the poor Palestinians, this is a very important test for many wether you can find the truth and follow the path and stand against war crimes and murder. Bless you all. Please support Rachel Corrie's parents in getting a fair investigation & trial for her murder by The Israeli Army !
yes very cool to find anything that old..but it still doesn't prove shit....now if they were glowing and floating across the desert, now that might prove something.
@1deanwdaniel WOW! Jesus said to none believers even if i appear in the flesh to you, u will not believe. it amazes me how far non believers will go to deny anything that has to do w/ Jesus. no matter how much evidence u show them they still will say, i dont believe it. and yet they will believe in gravity, atom, air, and evolution, which cant be proven. even if they were floating or glowing u wuldn't believe, b/c again u will come up with another excuse. Jesus loves you.
@HelloWorld1947 well i guess if i was jesus i'd say that too..but as for air if it wasn't there you'd know for a short time as you died from there not being any. i'm still kick'n without jesus or any god.not pick'n on just one. their all the same.EMPTY!and if you jump off a building gravity will kick your ass. pretty easy to see it as well.when it come's to god all i hear is man say'n blah blah blah..i know everything and your stupid.. yeah don't work for me.
@HelloWorld1947 that is what the authors of the new testiment HAD to say, because they knew there is no god and they were making it all up. Along with all the nonsense about 'god wants you to believe everything I SAY with no proof whatsoever' . Apparently this god they speak of delights in the presence of fools and suckers.
@MrHobiecat You speak like a satanist. Are you a satanist? A freemason? a Rosicrucian? A luciferian? You think that you are God yourself? All simple question you should easily answer :) If you don't want to answer any of those questions, i will be obligated to make my own conclusion about you. Seeing how you response ''They knew there is no God'' is too much for to believe from the writings of a man. If you have no proof of your saying. The final proof :) don't wait to give God a little room :)
@axe414 you reject all other religions but think the people who fabricated the one you believe in were honest. By what authority do YOU reject all other religions? Who are you to say all the others are wrong, and only yours is correct? The only way you could know would be if a god decides to reveal himself to everyone in person. That has NOT happened, ever. When you are honest about your understanding of everyone elses religion, all you have to do is throw yours on the same pile.
@MrHobiecat :) i don't reject all other religions. You assumed that. Second of all you didn'T answer any of my questions! You simply invented something about me and argumented about it. So will you answer my questions? Easy yes or no questions! I will not judge you since i am not God as you say. I will be able to know why you think the way you think about this subject a little more. Yes or No questions.
@axe414 your questions are nothing but an implied personal attack, ie, if you dont believe in jesus you MUST BE a satanist, or a freemason.... and your questions have nothing to do with what is being discussed. Again, the bible full of excuses for why the imaginary creator/god HIDES from the people he created, and it has to, becaues there is on god to reveal himself, and AGAIN, the people who wrote the stories KNEW THEY WERE MAKING IT UP.
@MrHobiecat Damn man! if you don't want to answer its Ok. And its not an insult. Its just that when someone is use a language so intense when speaking about God or Jesus, It makes me question. Is that person have an opposite way of thinking. Asking someone if he is a satanist is not an insult. Its just a question. I imply nothing. Your answer will speak for itself. Is you say '' Yes i am a satanist of freemason'', If you consider me insulting you, simply clear things up and answer my questions!
@axe414 You are so use to insulting and abusing people, you dont recognize what you are doing anymore. We are not discussing any gods, we are discussing PEOPLE. There are no gods wandering around anywhere, only PEOPLE CLAIMING to either be a god, or speak for a god. When you can produce a god in person, THEN you can complain about how people are treating it. Until then, religion is nothing but con artist and charletans.
@MrHobiecat and for the record, look up ad hominem logical fallacy. Your questions have NOTHING TO DO wtih what is being discussed, and has NOTHIGN to do with me or my personal life. Religion is purely fabricated, with NO evidence to support it, and no gods to be found anywhere. If there were any creator/gods wandering about, we would not be having this discussion, would we?
this is total fiction made up to encounter the dwindling numbers of bible thumpers ... the bible around now is like a jigsaw puzzle with with old new and modern day man made alterations .....but yes the original text was the word of jesus's calling to God and religion ..not the fictional book that is handed out today which is 5% of what was original and th rest is just egotistical fiction
The Dead Sea Scrolls include some books that are no longer included in the Bible. This is because MAN chose what to include and omit, just as MAN chose which words were used to compose the Bible in the FIRST place.
The Qumran scrolls represent a library that included both non-religious and religious texts. Amongst the religious texts, you would have found both the word of God as well as other books of religious tradition. For a non-Christian example, consider the muslim Hadith. It is important that we not impose antiChristian biases on the scrolls.
Anti-Christian BIAS? I WAS a fucking brainwashed Christian. I realized that Christianity was bullshit BEFORE the internet became widespread. Further research on the internet backs up my initial realization, just like scientific research keeps backing up Darwin's theory. There is a HUGE difference between rationalists and brainwashed Christian fucks. We HAVE no biased reason to spread the truth(unless Satan-LOL is behind us all). The idea of a Satan that God created is a fucking JOKE.
@lotanddaughters Hey everyone have you noticed that God haters are all here with their haters comments. They are insulted to start to see that satanism is maybe a deception after all? An illusion? and that oups they are starting to wake up to the reality that God is here to stay. Its not too late my friend. You can turn to the right way. You are scared of God, but all he wants is the same love that he gives you. It dosen't take your free-will away! Anyways... God have mercy ! saving him! Amen.
ILLUMINATI have corrupted EVERY DAM text book in schools and universities aka Re written History. So really if you are to go by your logic, then everyone including losers like you know ABSOLUTE SHIT. That would explain why real physics involved in Levitation is not really known in schools when it comes to UFOs. If you were smart you would know there is a reason History has been re written, and it is to cover the truth about Jesus Christ. Illuminati = Satan. If Satan is real then God is real too.
@lotanddaughters In 2 Timothy 3:16-17 it says that "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." Man didn't just pick what to include in the Bible but God spoke through the authors of the BIble and uses the Holy Spirit through them.
God's hand can be seen in history of the Bible. EG. like others before and after, devout reformist Martin Luther wanted to strip away books he believed heretical (James and Revelation from the NT). Yet he didn't succeed. We still have the Matthew to Revelation just like the early Christians. KEY POINT -Scrolls date the Jewish Bible BEFORE CHRIST yet so much of the post-history regarding the Jews, Israel and Christianity is present in these ancient words. Strange coincidence?
KEY POINT -The main god of Christian mythology is a stupid fucking asshole, but he is somehow able to create an entire fucking universe.
KEY POINT -The main god of Christian mythology has a really important message that he wants all of his children to know, but for some reason he fails to deliver the message in a way that everybody understands. Some people have lived ENTIRE LIVES without EVER hearing this message. The others that DO hear can't agree on what the message actually is.
@lotanddaughters There was no "Bible" during the time of the Essenes, so to say "no longer included" is to introduce a fallacious anachronism. There was all manner of extrabiblical literature found in that cave, but the part this video is about is the accuracy of today's Bible compared to the parts of it that existed then (the Old Testament) that the Essenes utilized while they lived in Qumran.
@natemup"There was no 'Bible' during the time of the Essenes, so to say 'no longer included' is to introduce a fallacious anachronism."
You Xtians sure like to get technical on some petty bullshit, all the while missing the EXTREMELY RIDICULOUS bullshit staring you in the face: The Garden of Eden, Tower of Babel, and Noah's Ark. Let's not forget Jesus, who is supposedly the same asshole of a god from the O.T. Your ancestors were conquered by assholes who forced this bullshit on them
"There was no 'Bible' during the time of the Essenes, so to say 'no longer included' is to introduce a fallacious anachronism."
You Xtians sure like to get technical on some petty bullshit, all the while missing the EXTREMELY RIDICULOUS bullshit that is staring you in the face: The Garden of Eden, The Tower of Babel, and Noah's Ark. And, let's not forget Jesus, who is supposedly the same asshole of a god from the O.T. Your ancestors were conquered by assholes who forced this bullshit on them.
lotanddaughters 2 months ago
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How dare are we to question what in Gods mind, it is beyond any humans concern. Its up to God to decide when he sees fits it, if he want to reveal the truth or not and we cannot simply just have exactly how we wanted things to be no matter what we do its a burden already inscribed in our destiny right before we first breath into this world, thats why we are destined to to commit mistake.
S6QA 1 year ago
when did Israel became a Jewish nation i thought the letter "J" was not in the Hebrew language
hebrewmatrix 1 year ago
@hebrewmatrix Romans, bro, Romans, Roman Influence.
jshjamaar 1 year ago
@jshjamaar How dare are we to question what in Gods mind, it is beyond any humans concern. Its up to God to decide when he sees fits it, if he want to reveal the truth or not and we cannot simply just have exactly how we wanted things to be no matter what we do its a burden already inscribed in our destiny right before we first breath into this world, thats why we are destined to to commit mistake.
S6QA 1 year ago
the guy with the cowboy hat in the video is a bald face lier. There were NO texts of the NEW TESTIMENT found with the dead sea scrolls.
MrHobiecat 1 year ago
NEW TESTIMENT! Bull, there were no parts of the new testiment found with the dead sea scrolls.
MrHobiecat 1 year ago
Vatican doesnt like this......
StuntWorkz 1 year ago
the origianl scrolls are written from prophets of
God those scrolls were taken very serious as God as ordained them to perserve
scripture... Religious zelouts think by the spirit of the Lord...
1turner22 1 year ago
That is an amazing coincidence
thefogster61 1 year ago
2000 year old scrolls with no textual changes means that no new thinking happened in 2000 years. Generations of drones copied and copied and copied and copied without putting a thought into whether it made any sense or not.
Very, very sad. Archaeology has not proven religion. It as proven that religion is mindless repetition.
chaosIsTheOnlyPower 1 year ago
@chaosIsTheOnlyPower the origianl scrolls are written from prophets of
God those scrolls were taken very serious as God as ordained them to perserve
scripture... Religious zelouts think by the spirit of the Lord...
1turner22 1 year ago
@chaosIsTheOnlyPower And what is wrong with believing in a way to live of love? I mean you would make a point if the bible was something evil. The problem is that evil person (Atheist-Luciferians) mind-control the population of the earth for millenia. This is why Jesus came i think. Because evil person was in control and still is. The best way to wake up to reality is to recognize the fact that the ideology of Atheism is what is destroying our civilization. Don't be against God to fast my friend
axe414 1 year ago
This does actually have a real source. Read the whole "Significant to the Canon of the Bible" part. There are two sources marked 21 and 22.
There is no excuse for you Christians and Jews. How can you possibly refute this?
Seriously, why do all you Christians and Jews say the scroll prove your point? It completely destroys your point. The Isaiah Scroll? That is only one out of 220 scrolls found. What about all the changes in the other ones?
Raisonic 1 year ago
the good thing about the dead sea scrolls it predicted the coming prophet of Muhammad(peace and blessings be upon him)
dann4169 1 year ago
Why isnt he killed by Templars?
Cevaka 1 year ago
“There's variance but basically you can hardly tell the difference..”
Biggest understatement of all time.
There's a critical difference in certain sections, notably, in Deuteronomy compared to what our edited versions say. There's even a debate going on as to if this religion even started out as monotheistic due to the scrolls. And he's telling us there's little difference? My God.
YTBNA 1 year ago
@YTBNA
Citations...
Oallos1 1 year ago
God has given man another glimpse into proof but people still dont want to belive how awesome and gracious God is to give us the same version wow haha Jesus is real and the world wont belieave hahahah how stupid peopleare praise God praise God ahahyeah
itdaddy85 1 year ago
To release the oppressed= To free Palestine (Virgin Mary's people) No TRUE Christian can truly support Israel in their horror Genocide of the poor Palestinians, this is a very important test for many wether you can find the truth and follow the path and stand against war crimes and murder. Bless you all. Please support Rachel Corrie's parents in getting a fair investigation & trial for her murder by The Israeli Army !
bunnykins110P 1 year ago
@bunnykins110P RIP Rachel Corrie. I believe she was a wonderful person! She's a brave soul much braver than me! Why did she need to die?!
MichaelWithstand 1 year ago
yes very cool to find anything that old..but it still doesn't prove shit....now if they were glowing and floating across the desert, now that might prove something.
1deanwdaniel 1 year ago
@1deanwdaniel WOW! Jesus said to none believers even if i appear in the flesh to you, u will not believe. it amazes me how far non believers will go to deny anything that has to do w/ Jesus. no matter how much evidence u show them they still will say, i dont believe it. and yet they will believe in gravity, atom, air, and evolution, which cant be proven. even if they were floating or glowing u wuldn't believe, b/c again u will come up with another excuse. Jesus loves you.
HelloWorld1947 1 year ago
@HelloWorld1947 well i guess if i was jesus i'd say that too..but as for air if it wasn't there you'd know for a short time as you died from there not being any. i'm still kick'n without jesus or any god.not pick'n on just one. their all the same.EMPTY!and if you jump off a building gravity will kick your ass. pretty easy to see it as well.when it come's to god all i hear is man say'n blah blah blah..i know everything and your stupid.. yeah don't work for me.
1deanwdaniel 1 year ago
@HelloWorld1947 that is what the authors of the new testiment HAD to say, because they knew there is no god and they were making it all up. Along with all the nonsense about 'god wants you to believe everything I SAY with no proof whatsoever' . Apparently this god they speak of delights in the presence of fools and suckers.
MrHobiecat 1 year ago
@MrHobiecat You speak like a satanist. Are you a satanist? A freemason? a Rosicrucian? A luciferian? You think that you are God yourself? All simple question you should easily answer :) If you don't want to answer any of those questions, i will be obligated to make my own conclusion about you. Seeing how you response ''They knew there is no God'' is too much for to believe from the writings of a man. If you have no proof of your saying. The final proof :) don't wait to give God a little room :)
axe414 1 year ago
@axe414 you reject all other religions but think the people who fabricated the one you believe in were honest. By what authority do YOU reject all other religions? Who are you to say all the others are wrong, and only yours is correct? The only way you could know would be if a god decides to reveal himself to everyone in person. That has NOT happened, ever. When you are honest about your understanding of everyone elses religion, all you have to do is throw yours on the same pile.
MrHobiecat 1 year ago
@MrHobiecat :) i don't reject all other religions. You assumed that. Second of all you didn'T answer any of my questions! You simply invented something about me and argumented about it. So will you answer my questions? Easy yes or no questions! I will not judge you since i am not God as you say. I will be able to know why you think the way you think about this subject a little more. Yes or No questions.
axe414 1 year ago
@axe414 your questions are nothing but an implied personal attack, ie, if you dont believe in jesus you MUST BE a satanist, or a freemason.... and your questions have nothing to do with what is being discussed. Again, the bible full of excuses for why the imaginary creator/god HIDES from the people he created, and it has to, becaues there is on god to reveal himself, and AGAIN, the people who wrote the stories KNEW THEY WERE MAKING IT UP.
MrHobiecat 1 year ago
@MrHobiecat Damn man! if you don't want to answer its Ok. And its not an insult. Its just that when someone is use a language so intense when speaking about God or Jesus, It makes me question. Is that person have an opposite way of thinking. Asking someone if he is a satanist is not an insult. Its just a question. I imply nothing. Your answer will speak for itself. Is you say '' Yes i am a satanist of freemason'', If you consider me insulting you, simply clear things up and answer my questions!
axe414 1 year ago
@axe414 You are so use to insulting and abusing people, you dont recognize what you are doing anymore. We are not discussing any gods, we are discussing PEOPLE. There are no gods wandering around anywhere, only PEOPLE CLAIMING to either be a god, or speak for a god. When you can produce a god in person, THEN you can complain about how people are treating it. Until then, religion is nothing but con artist and charletans.
MrHobiecat 1 year ago
@MrHobiecat and for the record, look up ad hominem logical fallacy. Your questions have NOTHING TO DO wtih what is being discussed, and has NOTHIGN to do with me or my personal life. Religion is purely fabricated, with NO evidence to support it, and no gods to be found anywhere. If there were any creator/gods wandering about, we would not be having this discussion, would we?
MrHobiecat 1 year ago
this is total fiction made up to encounter the dwindling numbers of bible thumpers ... the bible around now is like a jigsaw puzzle with with old new and modern day man made alterations .....but yes the original text was the word of jesus's calling to God and religion ..not the fictional book that is handed out today which is 5% of what was original and th rest is just egotistical fiction
s6jjy123 1 year ago
They are not the same as the New testament,there are differences in the word ,but some words were changed and add in the Bible we were given.
odephraimchai 2 years ago
Holey Land Rocks!!!
Israel for ever!!
hardONNN 2 years ago
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The dead sea scrolls are all old testament hundreds of years before jesus supposedly walked.
Wtf is this dumb shit lies.
Proletariat12 2 years ago
Because God knew the future before it happened?
*laffs*
ytuber28341 2 years ago
The Dead Sea Scrolls include some books that are no longer included in the Bible. This is because MAN chose what to include and omit, just as MAN chose which words were used to compose the Bible in the FIRST place.
lotanddaughters 2 years ago 15
@lotanddaughters
The Qumran scrolls represent a library that included both non-religious and religious texts. Amongst the religious texts, you would have found both the word of God as well as other books of religious tradition. For a non-Christian example, consider the muslim Hadith. It is important that we not impose antiChristian biases on the scrolls.
Oallos1 1 year ago
@Oallos1
Anti-Christian BIAS? I WAS a fucking brainwashed Christian. I realized that Christianity was bullshit BEFORE the internet became widespread. Further research on the internet backs up my initial realization, just like scientific research keeps backing up Darwin's theory. There is a HUGE difference between rationalists and brainwashed Christian fucks. We HAVE no biased reason to spread the truth(unless Satan-LOL is behind us all). The idea of a Satan that God created is a fucking JOKE.
lotanddaughters 1 year ago 3
@lotanddaughters Hey everyone have you noticed that God haters are all here with their haters comments. They are insulted to start to see that satanism is maybe a deception after all? An illusion? and that oups they are starting to wake up to the reality that God is here to stay. Its not too late my friend. You can turn to the right way. You are scared of God, but all he wants is the same love that he gives you. It dosen't take your free-will away! Anyways... God have mercy ! saving him! Amen.
axe414 1 year ago
ILLUMINATI have corrupted EVERY DAM text book in schools and universities aka Re written History. So really if you are to go by your logic, then everyone including losers like you know ABSOLUTE SHIT. That would explain why real physics involved in Levitation is not really known in schools when it comes to UFOs. If you were smart you would know there is a reason History has been re written, and it is to cover the truth about Jesus Christ. Illuminati = Satan. If Satan is real then God is real too.
Joel0277 1 year ago
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@Joel0277 So you think that Jesus Christ was the real deal? what truth about Jesus Christ? peace ;)
axe414 1 year ago
@lotanddaughters Prove that to us.
azar24701 1 year ago
@lotanddaughters In 2 Timothy 3:16-17 it says that "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." Man didn't just pick what to include in the Bible but God spoke through the authors of the BIble and uses the Holy Spirit through them.
34ihop 1 year ago
God's hand can be seen in history of the Bible. EG. like others before and after, devout reformist Martin Luther wanted to strip away books he believed heretical (James and Revelation from the NT). Yet he didn't succeed. We still have the Matthew to Revelation just like the early Christians. KEY POINT -Scrolls date the Jewish Bible BEFORE CHRIST yet so much of the post-history regarding the Jews, Israel and Christianity is present in these ancient words. Strange coincidence?
MrAliyak 1 year ago
@MrAliyak
KEY POINT -The main god of Christian mythology is a stupid fucking asshole, but he is somehow able to create an entire fucking universe.
KEY POINT -The main god of Christian mythology has a really important message that he wants all of his children to know, but for some reason he fails to deliver the message in a way that everybody understands. Some people have lived ENTIRE LIVES without EVER hearing this message. The others that DO hear can't agree on what the message actually is.
lotanddaughters 1 year ago 2
@lotanddaughters There was no "Bible" during the time of the Essenes, so to say "no longer included" is to introduce a fallacious anachronism. There was all manner of extrabiblical literature found in that cave, but the part this video is about is the accuracy of today's Bible compared to the parts of it that existed then (the Old Testament) that the Essenes utilized while they lived in Qumran.
natemup 2 months ago
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@natemup"There was no 'Bible' during the time of the Essenes, so to say 'no longer included' is to introduce a fallacious anachronism."
You Xtians sure like to get technical on some petty bullshit, all the while missing the EXTREMELY RIDICULOUS bullshit staring you in the face: The Garden of Eden, Tower of Babel, and Noah's Ark. Let's not forget Jesus, who is supposedly the same asshole of a god from the O.T. Your ancestors were conquered by assholes who forced this bullshit on them
lotanddaughters 2 months ago
why is this missing 5 stars...
take care
love
trio
Changes4TheBetter 3 years ago
I would love to go there!
rememberglen 3 years ago 7