Hamilton got a penalty for gaining an advantage by cutting the chicane yes? If he had given the position back after La Source he would not have been given the penalty because he would have given away the advantage that he gained. However at 1:30 does he not "give" the place back? (thus meaning that he should not have been given the penalty after the race)
With so much intervention from the stupid stewards, who clearly don´t like to watch real racers, is anyone wondering why Montoya and Raikonen got fed up with F1? I don´t blame Lewis if he decides to make the same decision...F1 is a farce! DRS was introduced to level things between racers like Lewis who have the balls to overtake where no one else does and average drivers who will just wait for the DRS zone to make a move while the driver in front becomes a sitting duck.
I completely agree with the decision to penalise Lewis at Spa. Lewis, agreed, let Kimi past but still gained an advantage on Kimi by not holding back for long enough. However, I do wish they had thought about it quicker and administered a penalty BEFORE the race had finished. In my view, the race order at the end should stand (unless the car is in clear infringement of technical specs). In a way, Lewis shouldn't have been stripped the win, but received a different form of penalty
was like he gained the length of the front stretch and was suppose to flat stop on the front straight and wait till kimi was through turn 1 and halfway up the back stretch
the rule is u give back wut u gained... he only gained the advantage of being infront of kimi if u look at where he was entering the last 2 corners so when he let kimi back by him the moment kimi's car was fully infront the placement of the cars was reset to how they were entering the last 2 corners. He gained 1st place nothing more and gave back first place the fact that he then outbraked him going into turn 1 has no bearing on the rules. The way u all make it sound...
Lewis stripped off the win and Massa given the win on a plate is the BIGGEST FARCICAL result in F1 history. Shame as well it had to happen at this fine venue. Bloody stewards, bunch of retards.
@blingadude I dont even have to respond, but I'm gonna respond just to tell you that...I dont need to respond to that comment...LOL. Eyes are the key here mate. Get a pair.
@blingadude But what are the run off areas for. To increase safety. Hammy eased off the throttle in order to let Kimi pass b4 the line then caught him again. Kimi then attempted to tail swipe him Is that what u call a good racer?
@dougiecoolietrini Yes, but if he has taken the corner properly, he would not have been anywhere near as close. If the corner had not been cut, he wouldn't have overtaken him the next corner. Also, he doesn't sideswipe him. He's clearly ahead of Hamilton. He moves over to block him, which is legit.
WHAT???????????? 30,000 fans making a petion? OMFG how fucking dumb r they?
ITS FORMULA 1 NOT LEWIS HAMILTON SPORT FFS.
Rosberg got it %100 right.. He cut it... got closer than what he would of been, didnt give the WHOLE advantage back and rightfully got punished. Simple.
If you arque those facts then you need to go racing and learn the ways.
However NO doubt the punishment was WAY to harsh. He still should of been given the Win.
These 2 laps were very very exciting!! I couldn`t stay still when watching this from tv. First Kimi overtake Lewis 3 laps before finish.Then Hamilton overtake Kimi in 30secs but he spin and Kimi takes the lead. 10secs and Kimi spin & Hamilton takes the lead. Then Kimi tries so hard to overtake he crashes to the wall. Shame that he didn`t finish for the WC and for the exciting final lap! We could`ve seen a great fight ending more nicely.
These 2 laps were very very exciting!! I couldn`t stay still when watching this from tv. First Kimi overtake Lewis 3 laps before finish.Then Hamilton overtake Kimi in 30secs but he spin and Kimi takes the lead. 10secs and Kimi spin & Hamilton takes the lead. Then Kimi tries so hard to overtake he crashes to the wall. Shame that he didn`t finish for the WC and for the exciting final lap! We could`ve seen a great fight ending more nicely.
worst decision ever by fia , this was one of the most brilliant moves in f1 by hamilton , ,,, stupid fia almost cost him his championship in the end .. but justice was done !!
he came off because his lack of drive in that ocassion...it was hard...but he did not do what hamilton did...to keep the car on the track...he went there all alone.
Hey, did anyone else ever notice this? - for the last 2 or 3 seasons, at the start of each race at Spa, Raikkonen used the run off area at turn 1 to overtake people. Pretty consistantly too. Not really fair, is it?
Still, after all the crap that was thrown at Lewis, he bought home the championship in the best way possible.
The home track of his main title rival.
And i reckon he may even win it again this year. :)
@riurijjir facts dont hurt, landing on a bike with no seat on does,
hammy is shit, in his first season he lost epicly because of 'pressure' his own fault in the best car, if he started from bottom like good champs fair enough u could say that, but he didnt, he started in the best and failed, in 08 massa got so unlucky with engines, 09 he dint say a word except he might retire, y? because he started in a bad car out of q1 4times then half way he became cocky again, thinking he's bad ass YeRight
The rule has all ways been a driver has to give up an advantage gained by cutting the course. Alonso did the same thing at suzuka in either 2005/2006 and the team told him to back down for the length of the pit straight so he wouldn't be penalized
is this the best video available fo the best last lap for a generation ????? fuck bernie pull the finger out of your geriatric arse and die so we can watch what should be the best sport on the planet when we want, how we want .. make your money on advertising because we like the sport and like the products it pushes, stop frustrating us( we may end up watching golf or worse .. nascar.)you greedy fuck.
Hamilton's violation against the rulebook cannot explain why Kimi lost the control of his car twice AND the race with that, while Lewis managed it to stay on track and pulls his car away from Massa.
Well, you're actually not a race driver. Try to hold your F1 racer on the track under rain condition, while another car is coming from the grass onto the track, we'll see what you do.
BtW: You are just a kimi-fanboy, nothing else.
Also, ich kann es ja in meiner Sprache ausdrücken, kleiner britscher Bastard. Mal sehen, wie viele Fremdsprachen du sprichst :)
Wie schön, du verstehst mich, dann gibts ja keine "Grammatikalischen Fehler-Probleme" mehr zwischen uns :)
Ich bin kein Rennfahrer, ich denke nur in dieser Situation ist es schwieriger den eigenen Wagen auf der Strecke zu halten, als einen dummen Kommentar zu etwas abzugeben.
Oh, übrigens! ich bin weder gay, noch bin ich ein Fan von Hamilton. Du scheinst von Vorurteilen zerfressen zu sein. Ich kann sehr gut damit umgehen, wenn jemand mal nicht gewinnt, das ist ganz normal, verstehste xD
M8 there is no point arguing with angry retards like Kieran, I ridiculed his comments on another Spa vid, I even posted the rules that were in place at the time, but all he could respond with were the same pathetic, immature responses he is giving you, i.e saying you can't spell, calling you a Hamilton fanboy and swearing like an angry, frustrated child, lol.
It's a sign of limited intelligence when people resort to swearing and insults just to try and prove a point, even when they are wrong
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you are a retard. Rules say that if you cut a schicane and gain position you have to let the one you overtook to go pass you. Hamilton cheating asshole
Lmao, obviously ur a blind retard, as if you watched the race or even the above video, you will see Hamilton yield the place back to Kimi around 3 seconds into the vid. This was backed up by telemetry which Mclaren produced at the FIA hearing, it showed Hamilton had lifted off the throttle and was travelling 6mph slower than Kimi over the line.
Hamilton gained a position, but immediately gave the position back, which is all the rules required him to do. Even race control confirmed it was legal.
Lol you dickhead, did it say ANYWHERE in the rules that Hamilton couldnt do that? NO IT DIDNT, and if you actually knew what you were talking about, you would know that slipstream played absolutely NO PART in the overtake, Hamilton was in Kimis slipstream for less than half a second, and both cars were travelling too slowly for slipstreaming to be effective.
You are obvioulsy just another bitter, resentful Kimifan who is pissed off that Hamilton is simply a better driver than Kimi
haaahhhaahaa XD you cant even stand behind your own words ""i.e saying you can't spell, calling you a Hamilton fanboy and swearing like an angry, frustrated child, lol."" You aint any better XDD
ROFL, is that the best response you can come back with... copying my words? Perhaps you forgot that YOU entered into a discussion with me by calling me "a retard", then calling Hamilton a "cheating asshole". Then you made a fool of urself by posting idiotic comments.
Unlike you I actually know what I'm talking about and I can at least debate and discuss F1 objectively without resorting to using childish insults towards drivers.
@bmk139 if there was a wall where LH cut the chicane, could he have passed KR into la source ??? no! he wouldve of needed to be in a harrier.
ie . if LH had fully yielded the corner and maintained position behind KR through second half of chicane he wouldnt of had anywhere near the run on him that he did.
i dont care about ferrari or mclaren.. but are you saying its ok to cut a corner to get a better run into next COrner ??
The fact is there was NO WALL there! 'what ifs' are no basis for justifying a penalty, no are they used by stewards. You cannot possibly say what would have happened if either driver had taken a different line as the possibities on a wet track with worn out tyres are infinite.
As for cutting corners, do you think it's ok for drivers to use run-off areas to gain speed & traction like Kimi did on 3 occasions, or should the rules just be applied to Hamilton even tho he gave the place back?
chicanes are a little different to long left handers. but actually you make a decent point..
i thought it was in the rules that you have to concede the corner proceeding the cut corner as well though ? wasnt that the sticking point. not some gobal warming world government merivingian(or however you spell it ) global ferrari conspiracy.
No that rule was brought in 1 week after Spa during the Italian GP @ Monza,
The actual rule they penalized Hamilton under is the 'drivers must use the racetrack for racing' rule, and the rule clause states than "In the event of a driver cutting a chicane, he must give that place back"
It is the clause that was re-written after the race and applied retrospectively to Hamilton.
as well the wall no wall is a very valid argument when it comes to chicanes.
as they are a safety related aspect of the track. its there to slow cars not allow 'maybe-maybe not' decisions by driver to drive through them. Their lack of obstructing devices is a safety consideration not a natural track feature. Im a massive LH fan btw. I think he has more raw talent than anyone in the current field including vettel, shame hes a lier and a cheat, like all the recent greats - senna and schuie
Yeah they are a safety feature, but there is a huge difference between a driver overshooting a corner he has no hope of making and opposed to being pushed wide by another driver.
Hamilton actually had the advantage going into the corner, but Kimi had the racing line.
I find it strange you claim to be a massive Lewis fan, yet you use the words 'liar and cheat' in the same sentence. Hamilton hasn't cheated his way to any titles, nor has he rammed anyone off the track to win any of them.
How did he cheat at Fuji 08? He overshot the 1st corner and got a drive thru for it, despite flatting his tyres.
How many drivers have got drive thrus for overshooting the 1st corner, especially on a track that has the shortest straight in the whole F1 calendar? Then he was sideswiped by Massa.
As for Australia, yeah that was bullshit, but the fact is Hamilton did nothing wrong on the track and should have been 3rd.
He was overheard on team radio telling Webber to back off as he was too close.
He had never driven behind a safety car before.
It was his 1st full wet race in F1, which he dominated.
And finally, I suggest you check the F1 addict link, all the info is there and it is widely regarded at the most informed and objective motorsport website around.
@erwinruys Haha, I'm also a Massa fan, (and Webber, Button, Heikki & Rosberg too). Massa is improving every race and getting back to his 2008/2009 form, in fact I reckon if Massa hadn't had that crash last year, he would be kicking Alonso's arse and challenging for the title!
@bmk139 excuse, Hamilton(shit) caused the whole field to lock up and poor Kimi and Massa lost so many bloody places at Fuji ! Hamilton deserved that! What a bitch!
@Beechaii2 LMAO, you stupid cunt, I suggest you go and watch the race again instead of talking such bullshit. Hamilton locked up (partly due to Kimi's attempt to hold him on the inside line, thus having to brake early). All the other cars made it round, and the only reason Massa lost places was because of Kimi being half on and half off the track.
What about poor Sutil at Monaco when Kimi (shit?) took him out of the race? Kimi escaped a penalty, yet dumb Kimifans always bitch about Lewis!
@Beechaii2 What has that got to do with anything?
The fact is Kimi took another driver out of the race and went unpunished for it.
Hamilton took no-one out of the race, yet was given a penalty for it.
He didn't lock up deliberately, it was simply down to low tyre & brake temp at the 1st corner. How many times do we see drivers locking up at the 1st corner? It happens in almost every race, but rarely are drivers penalized for it.
@bmk139 , 2 months ago.. but i just saw it... dude are you talking about the car Kimi toke out in Monaco that year? check out info.. that car had a 11 seconds penalization due to overtaking cars in yellow flag, and still it was an accident, Kimi had lost the grip of the car.
@Shisediego Are you retarded? Plainly you understand the concept of an accident when it involves Kimi taking somebody out of a race, but when it involves Lewis locking his wheels due to low tyre and brake temperature yet taking nobody out of a race, you think it is deliberate (and therefore not an accident)? Lol @ blinkered fanboy bias.
@bmk139 , and as i said before, you are total clueless, so.. where am i a kimi fan boy? you little scrub lol. What i say is physics, what you say is .. nothing.
So, i would say that you are the lil tard here =)
Hamiltons overtake had nothing to do with getting a "run on Kimi", nor did slipstreaming, it was a 'double bluff' move with both drivers struggling for traction on worn out tyres.
Hamilton had backed off the throttle and, in accordance with the rules, he gave the place back. That is all he was required to do under FIA rules, there was no mention of advantage, and there was nothing to say he couldn't overtake immediately after yielding the place.
Here are the rules that were in place at the time:
Hamilton was penalized under appendix L to the International Sporting Code (Chapter IV, Article 2.g):
The race track alone shall be used by the drivers during the race. (Clause: In the event of a driver cutting a chicane and gaining a position, he has to give that place back).
After Spa, the clause was re-written to incluse:
he not only [has] to give that place back but should also wait for another corner before he [can] attempt to retake it.
@DHumpas very sad that everybody always has to say that! Both Ferrari and McLaren have had penalties. and please thumb me down cause I know i'll be bitched because of this.
"I've always said this is bulls**t, that this is a sport and you have to be neutral, but the decision yesterday makes me believe that everyone is watching Ferrari in a positive way and McLaren in a very negative way. "What developed yesterday is the biggest mess the sport has ever done."
The Austrian legend said that Hamilton's penalty made him start to believe suggestions that the authorities favoured Ferrari."In the past, there have always been rumours and stories and I've always been completely against them because they've never been proven that Ferrari, because of its past and history, was always against McLaren with the stewards and the FIA, who if there was a decision, were in favour of Ferrari," said Lauda. cont...
There was never footage for kimi raikkonens car showing were he was wen he went in2 that corner which i dnt get y there isnt hamilton didnt want 2 yield and thought he could cut the corner nd giv the lead bck 2 kimi raikkonen he didnt no u had 2 w8 another corner to hav another go it would of been stupid 2 anyway they both might off crashed out of the race if he tried 2 pass him on eau rouge corner
F...F1...fukkkin disgraceful taking away Lewis' win...LOL....Kimi (the Hack)Raikonen crashed out!!!! Fukkkin baglicking stewards tried to take away Lewis' WDC...but JAH knows best and F...the rest of the bloodsuckin weak hearts!
2010 Lewis will win again!
Anyone who says Lewis is arrogant doesn't know the meaning of the word. Presumptuous is what they are . Lewis Rules.... weak hearts drool!
A cheater? Not according to race control he wasnt.
Charlie Whiting (who's job it is to refer incidents to stewards) told Mclaren moments after the incident that Hamilton had followed the rules and given the place back. It was broadcast live on ITVF1.
The telemetry Mclaren produced at the FIA appeal proved Hamilton had lifted and given the place back, so in order to justify an unjust penalty, the FIA changed the rules 1 week after Spa.
That isnt fair, nor is it racing.... its bullshit politics
Inconsistent? You don't win the WDC these days by being inconsistent you know....
I suggest you go and read the rules again. You do realise that the penalty was brought in BEFORE a week after the GP, so the rule must have already been there. They can't just swap and change the rules as they please.
It doesn't matter about the telemetry. The fact of the matter is LH was in front of KR into the next corner. This is against the rules.
No the rule you are referring to was brought in at Monza, which is 1 week after Spa.
Drivers requested clarification from the FIA and a statement of amendment was introduced before qualy at Monza.
Hamilton wasnt even penalized for gaining an advantage, he was actually penalized for not using the racetrack, there was never anything written in the rules about a driver having to wait until the following straight to re-pass (as is the current rule).
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hamilton is a cheating peice of scum... he should never have won that. you have to wait till the after the next corner to overtake if you have cut a corner and gained an advantage
Dickhead... you obviously know nothing about F1. The rule you refer 2 never even existed until 1 week AFTER the race,it was introduced during Monza!
Hamilton wasn't even penalized for gaining an advantage as he gave the place back, he was charged under section IV, article g.
g) The racetrack alone shall be used by the drivers during the race.
Kimi used 3 runoff areas on 3 seperate occasions to gain speed/traction, but the FIA effectively rewrote the rules to justify giving an unjust penalty.
A liar? What are you talking about you retard.... do you not have the intelligence or the knowledge to enter into an objective debate?
As for me being a Hamilton fan, I'm also a Ferrari fan, Alonso fan, Webber fan, Rosberg fan, Massa fan , Kimi fan, Senna fan & Mansell fan..... so I wonder how all that fits in with your judgmental ignorance?
For the record, you can probably tell I'm not a Hamilton fan. But I was pleased he won the title, I've wanted a British champ for a while now. I didn't like his arrogant attitude in his first two seasons, but that seems to have calmed down now.
I'm not a KR fan either. He's acheived what he wanted in F1, and now he's backed off. I'm a Massa fan, the guy that always puts the effort in. He does have a good amount of talent, otherwise he wouldn't be in a Ferrari.
i accidentally didnt put a h on cheetah and thts the best u cld come at me for...oh dear....and oh i see so u just happened be holdin up a dead cheetaHs head on a safari...real smooth... dick
btw wat kind of wanger comes up with corny lines like ure ignorant stupidy is laughable? gd1
Ah I see the muppets are out in force again.... Well truthfully i dont worry about them the majority of the posts on here can be traced back to either secure institutions where the patients lick the walls or their own armpits for hours on end then get let lose on computers... I'm sure it was Lauda (ex ferrari) who said that the Spa decision was the biggest mess the sport has ever done.... In fact I'm going to post his quote and leave it at that. Hope all is good with you mate!
Like this race shows clearly raikkonen is completely a disaster from long time.
Even massa is constantly faster and better from two years. Ferrari should replace rakkinen at once and take fastly a talented driver,differently ferrari is loosing ground,time, money,dignity and credibility.
The power of a firm is given by rapid solutions to problems
kimi raikonen overtook hamilton later on in the lap so i dont no why every1 is mouning tht hamilton cut the corner, he only cut the corner cuz kimi (cock) squeezed him on2 the grass and he had nowhere 2 go, kimi slipped off the race track cuz he is crap, he was the best the year b4 but he didnt have the spped 2 catch up with hamilton HAMILTON RULES!!!!!
1st of all kimi is one of the most talented f1 drivers
2nd every f1 driver is talented to actuali race them id like to see all you people saying that they have no talent race them at 200mph!!!! THINK BEFORE U OPEN URE MOUTHS
Hamilton won the race but ....after ....he had a penalty.....because it's simply absurd that someone win a GP after outclassed a ferrari,Hamilton is too young and don't know that . It's called ...the ...curse ....of to outclass a Ferrari.....-it's a very powerful curse......ask to Montoya.
Ferrari have to change drivers fastly. Raikkonen is not a talented driver and also when he his wheel to wheel is a total disaster .Massa try always to do his best but also him is evidently far from top drivers.The power of a firm is done by rapid solutions to solve problems and ferrari it's clearly loosing time ,ground and money.
But what is happening ....my god Ferrari said clearly that they had understood the problem and therefore raikkonen would had benn removed fastly .I suppose that after the turkish GP they should take onther driver at once. Why they continue to loose time ,ground and money.They shouldn't wait next year for Alonso to remove raikkonen
oh and Alonso! Alonso is a good driver but so as Kimi. Why do you think Kimi is so bad? I don't like Hamilton but still I admit that he is tallented. They sould remove you from youtube.
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Sorry but I suppose Ferrrari have to change drivers.Raikkonen is not a talented driver and when he his wheel to wheel is a disaster,he have problems on the rain and always destroy gear box Why to wait next year to replace him? .Massa try always to do his best but also him is evidently very far from top drivers.The power of a firm is done by rapid solutions to problem and Ferrari it's loosing time , ground and money..
Damn! You are some kind of shithead who doesn't watch tv! Kimi is the fastest driver in the grid. Look at Suzuka 2005 and you will se talent;) Kimi wone in Spa several times. Damn how on earth could Kimi be in F1 if he wouldn't be talented. You are complet out of this world! Massa is a good driver but Kimi won much more races! By the way! When McLaren's engines and gearboxes were not good it wasn't Kimi's fault! Please shut up and don't blame nobody in F1. If you reach something in life than...
Hamilton won the race but....after....he had a penalty.........because it's simply absurd that someone win a Gp after outclassed a Ferrari .Hamilton is too young and he don't know this . It's called - ....the ....curse.... of to outclass a Ferrari......- It's a very powerful curse........ask to Montoya
And that's all .This is the difference between good drivers and simple drivers.
Simple drivers have no idea of what does it mean to manage the car in a sudden situation like rain for example.And obviously here it's clear the sensibility of hamilton 's drive style ,you can apprechiate it also in thebrake overtake move
Sorry but I suppose Ferrrari have to change drivers.Raikkonen is not a talented driver and when he his wheel to wheel is a disaster,he have problems on the rain and always destroy gear box Why to wait next year to replace him? .Massa try always to do his best but also him is evidently very far from top drivers.The power of a firm is done by rapid solutions to problem and Ferrari it's loosing time , ground and money..
Kimi is the best!!!
SzerencseGames 1 week ago
hamilton 's cheat for cutting chicane and wrong team strategy on tyre cost kimi a win!!!! As simple as that!!
chanyiwei 1 month ago
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Hey guys, I was just thinking...
Hamilton got a penalty for gaining an advantage by cutting the chicane yes? If he had given the position back after La Source he would not have been given the penalty because he would have given away the advantage that he gained. However at 1:30 does he not "give" the place back? (thus meaning that he should not have been given the penalty after the race)
toodsf1 1 month ago
Hamilton won the breaking battle.
GalaxyPowerTy 1 month ago
With so much intervention from the stupid stewards, who clearly don´t like to watch real racers, is anyone wondering why Montoya and Raikonen got fed up with F1? I don´t blame Lewis if he decides to make the same decision...F1 is a farce! DRS was introduced to level things between racers like Lewis who have the balls to overtake where no one else does and average drivers who will just wait for the DRS zone to make a move while the driver in front becomes a sitting duck.
Euclides287 2 months ago
rules are so arbitrary in F1.
Lewis gave Kimi the lead, it's not his fault Kimi couldn't keep it.
eudemonarecool 5 months ago 4
@eudemonarecool
I completely agree with the decision to penalise Lewis at Spa. Lewis, agreed, let Kimi past but still gained an advantage on Kimi by not holding back for long enough. However, I do wish they had thought about it quicker and administered a penalty BEFORE the race had finished. In my view, the race order at the end should stand (unless the car is in clear infringement of technical specs). In a way, Lewis shouldn't have been stripped the win, but received a different form of penalty
DHSeaVixen 4 months ago
just imagine murray walker on this :)
hamiltonfan4eva 7 months ago 3
Anyone else think that if Raikkonen wasn't so shit at defending his line into La Source, this whole incident would've been forgotten?
HokkaidoTruant 9 months ago 3
@HokkaidoTruant i do!!!
dnyimu98 5 months ago
i remember this day like it was yesterday
dnyimu98 5 months ago 2
was like he gained the length of the front stretch and was suppose to flat stop on the front straight and wait till kimi was through turn 1 and halfway up the back stretch
CDUB8989 10 months ago
the rule is u give back wut u gained... he only gained the advantage of being infront of kimi if u look at where he was entering the last 2 corners so when he let kimi back by him the moment kimi's car was fully infront the placement of the cars was reset to how they were entering the last 2 corners. He gained 1st place nothing more and gave back first place the fact that he then outbraked him going into turn 1 has no bearing on the rules. The way u all make it sound...
CDUB8989 10 months ago
Look... ITS SIMPLE...
You can NOT gain 5 and give back 3 and say you had no advantage.
If you diagree with that FACT... Then your a complete idiot.
SuperHardTrance 10 months ago
Lewis stripped off the win and Massa given the win on a plate is the BIGGEST FARCICAL result in F1 history. Shame as well it had to happen at this fine venue. Bloody stewards, bunch of retards.
jwmm4eva 11 months ago
KIMI IS CRAP. HAMILTON IS THE BEST! BY FAR! Cheating, Racist stewards
dougiecoolietrini 11 months ago
@dougiecoolietrini Wow. A troll. Really? I mean look at it, if Hamilton hadn't cut the corner, he'd have been nowhere near Raikkonen.
blingadude 11 months ago 2
@blingadude I dont even have to respond, but I'm gonna respond just to tell you that...I dont need to respond to that comment...LOL. Eyes are the key here mate. Get a pair.
dougiecoolietrini 11 months ago
@dougiecoolietrini If he hadn't cut the PREVIOUS corner, then Hamilton would have been way behind Raikkonen for this one.
blingadude 11 months ago
@blingadude But what are the run off areas for. To increase safety. Hammy eased off the throttle in order to let Kimi pass b4 the line then caught him again. Kimi then attempted to tail swipe him Is that what u call a good racer?
dougiecoolietrini 11 months ago
@dougiecoolietrini Yes, but if he has taken the corner properly, he would not have been anywhere near as close. If the corner had not been cut, he wouldn't have overtaken him the next corner. Also, he doesn't sideswipe him. He's clearly ahead of Hamilton. He moves over to block him, which is legit.
blingadude 11 months ago
wow incredible fight GREAT
superjan101079 1 year ago
Alonso>Kimi>Massa..so why massa is in Ferrari and Kimi drives rally-car?
ryudoctor 1 year ago
shit recording
LukeMLBarry 1 year ago
Toda la actualidad mas reciente del mundo de la formula1 en w w w. zapformula1. com
lala150110 1 year ago
WHAT???????????? 30,000 fans making a petion? OMFG how fucking dumb r they?
ITS FORMULA 1 NOT LEWIS HAMILTON SPORT FFS.
Rosberg got it %100 right.. He cut it... got closer than what he would of been, didnt give the WHOLE advantage back and rightfully got punished. Simple.
If you arque those facts then you need to go racing and learn the ways.
However NO doubt the punishment was WAY to harsh. He still should of been given the Win.
SuperHardTrance 1 year ago
@SuperHardTrance 1. Learn some freakin English
2. FUck off!
ThreeLions89 1 year ago
@ThreeLions89 freakin is not a word... and you tell me to learn some english? grow up ya FREAKIN idiot
SuperHardTrance 1 year ago
@SuperHardTrance ever heard about slang? No uh?
ThreeLions89 1 year ago
Didn't ross brawn say hamilton was the most naturally talented driver in f1... i think that's the end of the argument...
pinkfloyddwc 1 year ago 2
2009 spa Kimi won Kimi is the king of spa
grubykirys 1 year ago
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These 2 laps were very very exciting!! I couldn`t stay still when watching this from tv. First Kimi overtake Lewis 3 laps before finish.Then Hamilton overtake Kimi in 30secs but he spin and Kimi takes the lead. 10secs and Kimi spin & Hamilton takes the lead. Then Kimi tries so hard to overtake he crashes to the wall. Shame that he didn`t finish for the WC and for the exciting final lap! We could`ve seen a great fight ending more nicely.
JUBEast 1 year ago
These 2 laps were very very exciting!! I couldn`t stay still when watching this from tv. First Kimi overtake Lewis 3 laps before finish.Then Hamilton overtake Kimi in 30secs but he spin and Kimi takes the lead. 10secs and Kimi spin & Hamilton takes the lead. Then Kimi tries so hard to overtake he crashes to the wall. Shame that he didn`t finish for the WC and for the exciting final lap! We could`ve seen a great fight ending more nicely.
JUBEast 1 year ago
worst decision ever by fia , this was one of the most brilliant moves in f1 by hamilton , ,,, stupid fia almost cost him his championship in the end .. but justice was done !!
tom0043 1 year ago
@tom0043 he is a cheat and will alway be
villeneuve2fast4you 1 year ago
you mean montezemolo .. yeh that's true
tom0043 1 year ago
i like ferrari now cause they shit.
lufcmunich58 1 year ago
raikkonen sucks
f1 is better without him
kingdong4 1 year ago
@kingdong4 F1 is better if dont watch it .
ainmartin 1 year ago
@kingdong4 kimis the best what r u talkin bout!!
schumachertimesrossi 1 year ago
Kimi dominated this race, shame he came off because of the rain.
slannmage 1 year ago
@slannmage
he came off because his lack of drive in that ocassion...it was hard...but he did not do what hamilton did...to keep the car on the track...he went there all alone.
elpumi16 1 year ago
.I. is pointed to Hamilton,no?
Kimi always at Spa retire or Win,just like in 2008.
HeyMarkedOne8 1 year ago
Hey, did anyone else ever notice this? - for the last 2 or 3 seasons, at the start of each race at Spa, Raikkonen used the run off area at turn 1 to overtake people. Pretty consistantly too. Not really fair, is it?
Still, after all the crap that was thrown at Lewis, he bought home the championship in the best way possible.
The home track of his main title rival.
And i reckon he may even win it again this year. :)
barrypreece 1 year ago
What a bitch hamilton is weeving back and forth down the straight. Hey hamilton your only allowed 1 move down the straight dumbass.
aieljose 1 year ago
@aieljose Hamilton is the best driver in this planet. It may hurt you, but ,this is the fact. Have a nice time.
riurijjir 1 year ago
@riurijjir Haha! That's a fact? Explain to me how that's a fact. Im curious.
aieljose 1 year ago
@riurijjir facts dont hurt, landing on a bike with no seat on does,
hammy is shit, in his first season he lost epicly because of 'pressure' his own fault in the best car, if he started from bottom like good champs fair enough u could say that, but he didnt, he started in the best and failed, in 08 massa got so unlucky with engines, 09 he dint say a word except he might retire, y? because he started in a bad car out of q1 4times then half way he became cocky again, thinking he's bad ass YeRight
iamQmai11 1 year ago
@aieljose i believe the rule is that ur allowed one move going into a corner... not down the whole strait :S
MrJonnyJacko 1 year ago
The rule has all ways been a driver has to give up an advantage gained by cutting the course. Alonso did the same thing at suzuka in either 2005/2006 and the team told him to back down for the length of the pit straight so he wouldn't be penalized
AManicBirthLogo 1 year ago
Kimi owns.
PietroDimeglio 1 year ago 2
because who watches bloody tv anymore.. ??? cept retards and f1 watchers
pvtdangles 2 years ago
you may have to charge a little less for your tv rights though
pvtdangles 2 years ago
is this the best video available fo the best last lap for a generation ????? fuck bernie pull the finger out of your geriatric arse and die so we can watch what should be the best sport on the planet when we want, how we want .. make your money on advertising because we like the sport and like the products it pushes, stop frustrating us( we may end up watching golf or worse .. nascar.)you greedy fuck.
pvtdangles 2 years ago
Avete visto come in uno scontro diretto Kimi sa anche frenare meglio di Lewis
CFSCOMPANY 2 years ago
that was the best race in my live
rosen97Lewis 2 years ago
hamilton have a cock in face
vivalascuderia 2 years ago
Bet you wish it was ur cock, lmao
bmk139 2 years ago
Hamilton's violation against the rulebook cannot explain why Kimi lost the control of his car twice AND the race with that, while Lewis managed it to stay on track and pulls his car away from Massa.
A cheater could possible not do that!
astra606 2 years ago 2
Managed to stay on the track? Look at 1:30
KieranF1Kimi 2 years ago
He was trying to avoid Rosberg :-)
bmk139 2 years ago
he could have just went around him. He didn't have to make it look over-dramatic.
KieranF1Kimi 2 years ago
Oh, cum on LOL! You know what I mean, so STFU !!
astra606 2 years ago
...what?
KieranF1Kimi 2 years ago
Well in opposide to Rakkönen, he managed it to stay on track until the end of race - instead of Kimi he reached the finish.
Beside: Hamilton was trying to avoid Rosberg, you know??
astra606 2 years ago 2
Yes but Hamilton went onto the grass. He would of lost less time if he hadn't of went through the grass. He could of went around Rosberg.
Btw, your spelling is ridiculously shit.
KieranF1Kimi 2 years ago
Well, you're actually not a race driver. Try to hold your F1 racer on the track under rain condition, while another car is coming from the grass onto the track, we'll see what you do.
BtW: You are just a kimi-fanboy, nothing else.
Also, ich kann es ja in meiner Sprache ausdrücken, kleiner britscher Bastard. Mal sehen, wie viele Fremdsprachen du sprichst :)
astra606 2 years ago 2
thats funny, cos I can understand German :)
You're not a race driver?
OH AND BTW, you are Hamilton-gay fan boy so shut it dickhead.
KieranF1Kimi 2 years ago
Wie schön, du verstehst mich, dann gibts ja keine "Grammatikalischen Fehler-Probleme" mehr zwischen uns :)
Ich bin kein Rennfahrer, ich denke nur in dieser Situation ist es schwieriger den eigenen Wagen auf der Strecke zu halten, als einen dummen Kommentar zu etwas abzugeben.
Oh, übrigens! ich bin weder gay, noch bin ich ein Fan von Hamilton. Du scheinst von Vorurteilen zerfressen zu sein. Ich kann sehr gut damit umgehen, wenn jemand mal nicht gewinnt, das ist ganz normal, verstehste xD
astra606 2 years ago 2
ah god, speak English. Reminds me of the german teachers at school.
KieranF1Kimi 2 years ago
M8 there is no point arguing with angry retards like Kieran, I ridiculed his comments on another Spa vid, I even posted the rules that were in place at the time, but all he could respond with were the same pathetic, immature responses he is giving you, i.e saying you can't spell, calling you a Hamilton fanboy and swearing like an angry, frustrated child, lol.
It's a sign of limited intelligence when people resort to swearing and insults just to try and prove a point, even when they are wrong
bmk139 2 years ago 2
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you are a retard. Rules say that if you cut a schicane and gain position you have to let the one you overtook to go pass you. Hamilton cheating asshole
patukka24 2 years ago
Lmao, obviously ur a blind retard, as if you watched the race or even the above video, you will see Hamilton yield the place back to Kimi around 3 seconds into the vid. This was backed up by telemetry which Mclaren produced at the FIA hearing, it showed Hamilton had lifted off the throttle and was travelling 6mph slower than Kimi over the line.
Hamilton gained a position, but immediately gave the position back, which is all the rules required him to do. Even race control confirmed it was legal.
bmk139 2 years ago
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but that wuss did it so that he immediately went to kimis slipstream
patukka24 2 years ago
Lol you dickhead, did it say ANYWHERE in the rules that Hamilton couldnt do that? NO IT DIDNT, and if you actually knew what you were talking about, you would know that slipstream played absolutely NO PART in the overtake, Hamilton was in Kimis slipstream for less than half a second, and both cars were travelling too slowly for slipstreaming to be effective.
You are obvioulsy just another bitter, resentful Kimifan who is pissed off that Hamilton is simply a better driver than Kimi
bmk139 2 years ago
haaahhhaahaa XD you cant even stand behind your own words ""i.e saying you can't spell, calling you a Hamilton fanboy and swearing like an angry, frustrated child, lol."" You aint any better XDD
patukka24 2 years ago
ROFL, is that the best response you can come back with... copying my words? Perhaps you forgot that YOU entered into a discussion with me by calling me "a retard", then calling Hamilton a "cheating asshole". Then you made a fool of urself by posting idiotic comments.
Unlike you I actually know what I'm talking about and I can at least debate and discuss F1 objectively without resorting to using childish insults towards drivers.
bmk139 2 years ago
@bmk139 if there was a wall where LH cut the chicane, could he have passed KR into la source ??? no! he wouldve of needed to be in a harrier.
ie . if LH had fully yielded the corner and maintained position behind KR through second half of chicane he wouldnt of had anywhere near the run on him that he did.
i dont care about ferrari or mclaren.. but are you saying its ok to cut a corner to get a better run into next COrner ??
pvtdangles 2 years ago
The fact is there was NO WALL there! 'what ifs' are no basis for justifying a penalty, no are they used by stewards. You cannot possibly say what would have happened if either driver had taken a different line as the possibities on a wet track with worn out tyres are infinite.
As for cutting corners, do you think it's ok for drivers to use run-off areas to gain speed & traction like Kimi did on 3 occasions, or should the rules just be applied to Hamilton even tho he gave the place back?
bmk139 2 years ago
hamilton was off track a few times as well.
chicanes are a little different to long left handers. but actually you make a decent point..
i thought it was in the rules that you have to concede the corner proceeding the cut corner as well though ? wasnt that the sticking point. not some gobal warming world government merivingian(or however you spell it ) global ferrari conspiracy.
pvtdangles 2 years ago
No that rule was brought in 1 week after Spa during the Italian GP @ Monza,
The actual rule they penalized Hamilton under is the 'drivers must use the racetrack for racing' rule, and the rule clause states than "In the event of a driver cutting a chicane, he must give that place back"
It is the clause that was re-written after the race and applied retrospectively to Hamilton.
bmk139 2 years ago
as well the wall no wall is a very valid argument when it comes to chicanes.
as they are a safety related aspect of the track. its there to slow cars not allow 'maybe-maybe not' decisions by driver to drive through them. Their lack of obstructing devices is a safety consideration not a natural track feature. Im a massive LH fan btw. I think he has more raw talent than anyone in the current field including vettel, shame hes a lier and a cheat, like all the recent greats - senna and schuie
pvtdangles 2 years ago
Yeah they are a safety feature, but there is a huge difference between a driver overshooting a corner he has no hope of making and opposed to being pushed wide by another driver.
Hamilton actually had the advantage going into the corner, but Kimi had the racing line.
I find it strange you claim to be a massive Lewis fan, yet you use the words 'liar and cheat' in the same sentence. Hamilton hasn't cheated his way to any titles, nor has he rammed anyone off the track to win any of them.
bmk139 2 years ago
Liar ??? *cough*
Australia '09,
Cheat ??? *splutter*Fuji '08.
two of the best drives you will ever see
spa '08 - silverstone '08
Properly source your FIA changing the rules after the fact argument and you win.
pvtdangles 2 years ago
How did he cheat at Fuji 08? He overshot the 1st corner and got a drive thru for it, despite flatting his tyres.
How many drivers have got drive thrus for overshooting the 1st corner, especially on a track that has the shortest straight in the whole F1 calendar? Then he was sideswiped by Massa.
As for Australia, yeah that was bullshit, but the fact is Hamilton did nothing wrong on the track and should have been 3rd.
bmk139 2 years ago 32
fuji '08. LH backs up pack in unexpected and unsafe manner under safety car conditions causing webber - vettel incident
pvtdangles 2 years ago
i cant post link but youtube search "Choque en Formula 1 GP Fuji Japon"
pvtdangles 2 years ago
What are you on about "cheating" @ fuji 07?
The lead driver is allowed to back the pack up.
He was not blamed or penalized for vettels crash
He was overheard on team radio telling Webber to back off as he was too close.
He had never driven behind a safety car before.
It was his 1st full wet race in F1, which he dominated.
And finally, I suggest you check the F1 addict link, all the info is there and it is widely regarded at the most informed and objective motorsport website around.
bmk139 2 years ago 5
i think you meant longest straight as well
pvtdangles 2 years ago
Nope what i meant was the distance between the start line and the 1st corner is the shortest in the whole calendar.
bmk139 2 years ago 3
@bmk139 Dude you really are a Hamilton fan ain't you??
erwinruys 1 year ago
@bmk139 he did goz he started talking to everybody and being a small school child by pointing the finger to somebody else.
erwinruys 1 year ago
@bmk139 why do we keep arguing about each other hamilton. your an hamilton fan and I am an massa fan. Why don't we team up to beat Alonso.
erwinruys 1 year ago
@erwinruys Haha, I'm also a Massa fan, (and Webber, Button, Heikki & Rosberg too). Massa is improving every race and getting back to his 2008/2009 form, in fact I reckon if Massa hadn't had that crash last year, he would be kicking Alonso's arse and challenging for the title!
bmk139 1 year ago
@bmk139 excuse, Hamilton(shit) caused the whole field to lock up and poor Kimi and Massa lost so many bloody places at Fuji ! Hamilton deserved that! What a bitch!
Beechaii2 1 year ago
@Beechaii2 LMAO, you stupid cunt, I suggest you go and watch the race again instead of talking such bullshit. Hamilton locked up (partly due to Kimi's attempt to hold him on the inside line, thus having to brake early). All the other cars made it round, and the only reason Massa lost places was because of Kimi being half on and half off the track.
What about poor Sutil at Monaco when Kimi (shit?) took him out of the race? Kimi escaped a penalty, yet dumb Kimifans always bitch about Lewis!
bmk139 1 year ago
@bmk139 hey, there was no traction control in 2008!
Beechaii2 1 year ago
@Beechaii2 What has that got to do with anything?
The fact is Kimi took another driver out of the race and went unpunished for it.
Hamilton took no-one out of the race, yet was given a penalty for it.
He didn't lock up deliberately, it was simply down to low tyre & brake temp at the 1st corner. How many times do we see drivers locking up at the 1st corner? It happens in almost every race, but rarely are drivers penalized for it.
bmk139 1 year ago
@bmk139 no traction control means car were more sideways in corners and if a driver lose control...BAM! Too late especially at a tight bumpy Monaco!
Beechaii2 1 year ago
@bmk139 , 2 months ago.. but i just saw it... dude are you talking about the car Kimi toke out in Monaco that year? check out info.. that car had a 11 seconds penalization due to overtaking cars in yellow flag, and still it was an accident, Kimi had lost the grip of the car.
L2 read.
Shisediego 1 year ago
@Shisediego Are you retarded? Plainly you understand the concept of an accident when it involves Kimi taking somebody out of a race, but when it involves Lewis locking his wheels due to low tyre and brake temperature yet taking nobody out of a race, you think it is deliberate (and therefore not an accident)? Lol @ blinkered fanboy bias.
bmk139 1 year ago
@bmk139 , and as i said before, you are total clueless, so.. where am i a kimi fan boy? you little scrub lol. What i say is physics, what you say is .. nothing.
So, i would say that you are the lil tard here =)
Shisediego 1 year ago
@Shisediego but he has ati graphics card so he doesnt know how physics works -.-
eleos7 1 year ago 131
@eleos7 lol... only geeks would know what your comment means :P
op3l 1 year ago
Completely agree
Hamilton, Button asnd Mclaren fan forever
MichaelS841 1 year ago
@bmk139 and Bourdais got penalised for something Massa did
F1guitarfanatic927 11 months ago
@bmk139 Hamilton was robbed of victory in spa2008,also robbed in australia in 2009 as you said
MrMANUNITED 7 months ago
Hamiltons overtake had nothing to do with getting a "run on Kimi", nor did slipstreaming, it was a 'double bluff' move with both drivers struggling for traction on worn out tyres.
Hamilton had backed off the throttle and, in accordance with the rules, he gave the place back. That is all he was required to do under FIA rules, there was no mention of advantage, and there was nothing to say he couldn't overtake immediately after yielding the place.
bmk139 2 years ago
didnt the rules state conceding PROCEEDING corner ??? ie.. you have to give next corner up.. no matter what happens with throttles and intent.
ie... you should be in a wall so act like it, untill there is no hint of advantage whence leaving racing surface????????
pvtdangles 2 years ago
Here are the rules that were in place at the time:
Hamilton was penalized under appendix L to the International Sporting Code (Chapter IV, Article 2.g):
The race track alone shall be used by the drivers during the race. (Clause: In the event of a driver cutting a chicane and gaining a position, he has to give that place back).
After Spa, the clause was re-written to incluse:
he not only [has] to give that place back but should also wait for another corner before he [can] attempt to retake it.
bmk139 2 years ago 15
source this please.. dont just quote it.
pvtdangles 2 years ago
yep a excuse to give massa a win and make the chapionship look closer then what is actually was for viewing figures
TheTrickytrick69 2 years ago 3
@bmk139 yup FIA (Ferrari International Assistant)
DHumpas 1 year ago
@DHumpas very sad that everybody always has to say that! Both Ferrari and McLaren have had penalties. and please thumb me down cause I know i'll be bitched because of this.
erwinruys 1 year ago
I think Lauda as an ex ferrari and mclaren driver is probably better qualified than you numpties to comment dont you?
Owsyd 2 years ago
Every time Lauda open his mouth he says no sense things
mgarofano 2 years ago
not so much no sense just nothing interesting came out.. even when it was controversial it was snooze worthy.
i think its his phrasing
pvtdangles 2 years ago
"I've always said this is bulls**t, that this is a sport and you have to be neutral, but the decision yesterday makes me believe that everyone is watching Ferrari in a positive way and McLaren in a very negative way. "What developed yesterday is the biggest mess the sport has ever done."
Owsyd 2 years ago
The Austrian legend said that Hamilton's penalty made him start to believe suggestions that the authorities favoured Ferrari."In the past, there have always been rumours and stories and I've always been completely against them because they've never been proven that Ferrari, because of its past and history, was always against McLaren with the stewards and the FIA, who if there was a decision, were in favour of Ferrari," said Lauda. cont...
Owsyd 2 years ago
Best race I have ever witnessed and they F'd it up....
davidsimsjr55 2 years ago
best comment
pvtdangles 2 years ago
There was never footage for kimi raikkonens car showing were he was wen he went in2 that corner which i dnt get y there isnt hamilton didnt want 2 yield and thought he could cut the corner nd giv the lead bck 2 kimi raikkonen he didnt no u had 2 w8 another corner to hav another go it would of been stupid 2 anyway they both might off crashed out of the race if he tried 2 pass him on eau rouge corner
Thisenbird 2 years ago
this isn't a text message?? do you own a keyboard ??
pvtdangles 2 years ago
F...F1...fukkkin disgraceful taking away Lewis' win...LOL....Kimi (the Hack)Raikonen crashed out!!!! Fukkkin baglicking stewards tried to take away Lewis' WDC...but JAH knows best and F...the rest of the bloodsuckin weak hearts!
2010 Lewis will win again!
Anyone who says Lewis is arrogant doesn't know the meaning of the word. Presumptuous is what they are . Lewis Rules.... weak hearts drool!
WADADA1 2 years ago
@ AntiTables
The only one who's talking shit is right...YOU! "Mr. wannabe trouble maker" ^^
astra606 2 years ago
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astra606 2 years ago
Massa won because of a FIA decision. Dumbass.
AntiTables 2 years ago
That was meant to be ironical, something you'll never understand, you retard! LOL
astra606 2 years ago
Poor way of showing irony tbh, and I do undertstand what irony is, for example a fish dying in water. Thats an example. Thanks.
AntiTables 2 years ago
Is that what you want to be?
ROFL
astra606 2 years ago
Well my star sign is pisces, but a fish would be pretty boring, I'd probably be a eagle.
AntiTables 2 years ago
what du you say? An eagle without wings? xD
astra606 2 years ago
Now your just talking shite, Stop, save yourself the trouble.
AntiTables 2 years ago
A cheater? Not according to race control he wasnt.
Charlie Whiting (who's job it is to refer incidents to stewards) told Mclaren moments after the incident that Hamilton had followed the rules and given the place back. It was broadcast live on ITVF1.
The telemetry Mclaren produced at the FIA appeal proved Hamilton had lifted and given the place back, so in order to justify an unjust penalty, the FIA changed the rules 1 week after Spa.
That isnt fair, nor is it racing.... its bullshit politics
bmk139 2 years ago
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astra606 2 years ago
Inconsistent? You don't win the WDC these days by being inconsistent you know....
I suggest you go and read the rules again. You do realise that the penalty was brought in BEFORE a week after the GP, so the rule must have already been there. They can't just swap and change the rules as they please.
It doesn't matter about the telemetry. The fact of the matter is LH was in front of KR into the next corner. This is against the rules.
r0fflec0pt 2 years ago
No the rule you are referring to was brought in at Monza, which is 1 week after Spa.
Drivers requested clarification from the FIA and a statement of amendment was introduced before qualy at Monza.
Hamilton wasnt even penalized for gaining an advantage, he was actually penalized for not using the racetrack, there was never anything written in the rules about a driver having to wait until the following straight to re-pass (as is the current rule).
I'm also a Massa fan, he's awesome :-)
bmk139 2 years ago
Hamilton won this because he was the better driver
IEatFigs 2 years ago
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Kimi is the best,Hamilton is so arrogant.
raikoonen77 2 years ago
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hamilton is a cheating peice of scum... he should never have won that. you have to wait till the after the next corner to overtake if you have cut a corner and gained an advantage
saitensluvchild 2 years ago
Dickhead... you obviously know nothing about F1. The rule you refer 2 never even existed until 1 week AFTER the race,it was introduced during Monza!
Hamilton wasn't even penalized for gaining an advantage as he gave the place back, he was charged under section IV, article g.
g) The racetrack alone shall be used by the drivers during the race.
Kimi used 3 runoff areas on 3 seperate occasions to gain speed/traction, but the FIA effectively rewrote the rules to justify giving an unjust penalty.
bmk139 2 years ago
Liar. Hamilton fans always manipulate the truth because of sour grapes
r0fflec0pt 2 years ago
A liar? What are you talking about you retard.... do you not have the intelligence or the knowledge to enter into an objective debate?
As for me being a Hamilton fan, I'm also a Ferrari fan, Alonso fan, Webber fan, Rosberg fan, Massa fan , Kimi fan, Senna fan & Mansell fan..... so I wonder how all that fits in with your judgmental ignorance?
bmk139 2 years ago
For the record, you can probably tell I'm not a Hamilton fan. But I was pleased he won the title, I've wanted a British champ for a while now. I didn't like his arrogant attitude in his first two seasons, but that seems to have calmed down now.
I'm not a KR fan either. He's acheived what he wanted in F1, and now he's backed off. I'm a Massa fan, the guy that always puts the effort in. He does have a good amount of talent, otherwise he wouldn't be in a Ferrari.
Get well soon Felipe!!!
r0fflec0pt 2 years ago
he used 2 b so shit tho..its only in 2008 he started gettin gd
91usmcsniper91 2 years ago
ure a cock.
91usmcsniper91 2 years ago
ROFL, and posting such an immature reply has made you sound like a very unintelligent cock, lol.
bmk139 2 years ago
rofl?yer hilarious...go shoot sum more cheetas dead u sad excuse 4 a human....how" imature" oh god ure funny ...get a life
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bmk139 2 years ago
i accidentally didnt put a h on cheetah and thts the best u cld come at me for...oh dear....and oh i see so u just happened be holdin up a dead cheetaHs head on a safari...real smooth... dick
btw wat kind of wanger comes up with corny lines like ure ignorant stupidy is laughable? gd1
91usmcsniper91 2 years ago
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bmk139 2 years ago
ahh kk this cheetah was just having a sleep then
91usmcsniper91 2 years ago
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bmk139 2 years ago
Ah I see the muppets are out in force again.... Well truthfully i dont worry about them the majority of the posts on here can be traced back to either secure institutions where the patients lick the walls or their own armpits for hours on end then get let lose on computers... I'm sure it was Lauda (ex ferrari) who said that the Spa decision was the biggest mess the sport has ever done.... In fact I'm going to post his quote and leave it at that. Hope all is good with you mate!
Owsyd 2 years ago
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bmk139 2 years ago
Dude if you are gonna film off of your tv at least put you camera on a stand so it isnt as shaky
Pgabs123 2 years ago 3
Hamilton Was The Real Winner Every1 Else Knows It... But Anyway He Won The Championship Im Over The Spa Thing Now..
LewisHamilton1991 2 years ago 2
Totally agree ,every time someone outclass a ferrari there is a shameful penalty by ferrari-Fia, it happened also in the past against Montoya
mgarofano 2 years ago
Like this race shows clearly raikkonen is completely a disaster from long time.
Even massa is constantly faster and better from two years. Ferrari should replace rakkinen at once and take fastly a talented driver,differently ferrari is loosing ground,time, money,dignity and credibility.
The power of a firm is given by rapid solutions to problems
mgarofano 2 years ago 2
kimi raikonen overtook hamilton later on in the lap so i dont no why every1 is mouning tht hamilton cut the corner, he only cut the corner cuz kimi (cock) squeezed him on2 the grass and he had nowhere 2 go, kimi slipped off the race track cuz he is crap, he was the best the year b4 but he didnt have the spped 2 catch up with hamilton HAMILTON RULES!!!!!
WillHapgood2 2 years ago 2
kimi should have, lewis did...
sketchbookies 2 years ago
1st of all kimi is one of the most talented f1 drivers
2nd every f1 driver is talented to actuali race them id like to see all you people saying that they have no talent race them at 200mph!!!! THINK BEFORE U OPEN URE MOUTHS
shrimpo13 2 years ago
Hamilton won the race but ....after ....he had a penalty.....because it's simply absurd that someone win a GP after outclassed a ferrari,Hamilton is too young and don't know that . It's called ...the ...curse ....of to outclass a Ferrari.....-it's a very powerful curse......ask to Montoya.
mgarofano 2 years ago
Ferrari have to change drivers fastly. Raikkonen is not a talented driver and also when he his wheel to wheel is a total disaster .Massa try always to do his best but also him is evidently far from top drivers.The power of a firm is done by rapid solutions to solve problems and ferrari it's clearly loosing time ,ground and money.
mgarofano 2 years ago
´Hahahh this so funny its like Movie Scenario hahahaha....dont get me wrong I am a Kimi fan
M1993G 2 years ago
But what is happening ....my god Ferrari said clearly that they had understood the problem and therefore raikkonen would had benn removed fastly .I suppose that after the turkish GP they should take onther driver at once. Why they continue to loose time ,ground and money.They shouldn't wait next year for Alonso to remove raikkonen
mgarofano 2 years ago
oh and Alonso! Alonso is a good driver but so as Kimi. Why do you think Kimi is so bad? I don't like Hamilton but still I admit that he is tallented. They sould remove you from youtube.
RivfaderBoti 2 years ago
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Sorry but I suppose Ferrrari have to change drivers.Raikkonen is not a talented driver and when he his wheel to wheel is a disaster,he have problems on the rain and always destroy gear box Why to wait next year to replace him? .Massa try always to do his best but also him is evidently very far from top drivers.The power of a firm is done by rapid solutions to problem and Ferrari it's loosing time , ground and money..
mgarofano 2 years ago
Damn! You are some kind of shithead who doesn't watch tv! Kimi is the fastest driver in the grid. Look at Suzuka 2005 and you will se talent;) Kimi wone in Spa several times. Damn how on earth could Kimi be in F1 if he wouldn't be talented. You are complet out of this world! Massa is a good driver but Kimi won much more races! By the way! When McLaren's engines and gearboxes were not good it wasn't Kimi's fault! Please shut up and don't blame nobody in F1. If you reach something in life than...
RivfaderBoti 2 years ago
Hamilton won the race but....after....he had a penalty.........because it's simply absurd that someone win a Gp after outclassed a Ferrari .Hamilton is too young and he don't know this . It's called - ....the ....curse.... of to outclass a Ferrari......- It's a very powerful curse........ask to Montoya
mgarofano 2 years ago
Does Raikkonen will crush in to the wall or in to another car in Monaco ?
........probably a car
........very much probably a Renault.
mgarofano 2 years ago
he hit sutil....but ran away unscaved
Clockworkster 2 years ago
And that's all .This is the difference between good drivers and simple drivers.
Simple drivers have no idea of what does it mean to manage the car in a sudden situation like rain for example.And obviously here it's clear the sensibility of hamilton 's drive style ,you can apprechiate it also in thebrake overtake move
mgarofano 2 years ago
Sorry but I suppose Ferrrari have to change drivers.Raikkonen is not a talented driver and when he his wheel to wheel is a disaster,he have problems on the rain and always destroy gear box Why to wait next year to replace him? .Massa try always to do his best but also him is evidently very far from top drivers.The power of a firm is done by rapid solutions to problem and Ferrari it's loosing time , ground and money..
mgarofano 2 years ago