@DallasJRC No I'm not, perhaps I'm not being clear. @discarted could have been more respectful, just because an officer is being a dick to you doesn't mean being a dick back will help get your point across. I think this video is a good example: v=xEPzx7I_bvU both the Cop and the photographer were respectful of each other, yet the photographer clearly stated his rights and his right to photograph and video the buildings.
@aperionx I disagree. When you are a taxpayer well within your rights, we have the RIGHT to say whatever we would like. Also, I find nothing wrong with being caustic when someone on the taxpayers tab is on a power trip. Especially when you know you're right. Had the taxpayer paid officer approached the young man correctly,which is "with precaution" this would have been over. But no, he had to go into the situation with attitude. Its human nature to go on the defensive when approached this way.
Terroism involves terrozing another, so by Rick Gylfie telling the photographer that he'll submit his name to the FBI and TLO to wreck havoc on his life, he himself is making terroist threats. Another important fact is this ignorant fat pig is gulity of an illegal search and seizure and could have put this poor photographer in jail for something that wasn't even a crime. Makes you wonder about his previous collars. Maybe somebody need to submit Gylfie's name to the FBI and Internal Affairs.
My question is for the photographer. Didn't you receive any kind of feedback from the district attorney or Internal Affairs about any discipline that was handed down to this ignorant dumbass cop or did they just sweep it under the rug like everything else?
You should sue in Federal court if the time limit is not up. These deputies have inflated ideas of their own importance, they are not there to stop terrorist attacks, they are there for purse snatchers and maybe a flasher or two. Ridiculous people. SUE.
Rick Gylfie is a fat, bald headed punk-ass pussy with no balls and a high-pitched voice that makes him sound like he takes it up the ass. He was definitely picked on all through high school and thought this job would get him respect, but all it did was make him look like more of a fuckin' joke. Rick "goofy", whoops, I mean Gylfie, needs to stick to what he knows best and that's beating his meat and eating doughnuts. I bet the LASD is laughing their asses off at Rick Gylfie right about now.
Hmm, I get your points,, but the police do have a tough job. Its one thing to know ones rights and then another to just be disrespectful. They have to ask you what your doing, Im sure someone probably pointed you out to the cop and he was doing his job, asking why and what you were doing. I have seen this at a shopping mall. A guy was taking photos and an Orange PD cop did the same as this sheriff with you, asked what and why you were taking photos. Good job, but you could have been nicer.
@discarted it's easy for you to say to find another job. But when you need protection or help I bet you call the police as well as any of us. You are looking for trouble, and you found it. YOu could have easily said what you were taking pictures of but you decided to be an asshole and mess with this poor guy. I am not a fan of cops myself but at least he does a job you don;t have the balls to do. Taking photos around Los Angeles and yelling about "photographic rights" is a pussy position to take
You ever hear of no snitch neighborhoods? No we don't call cops. I don't have the balls to be a cop? That's laughable. Try spending your days with a camera and no weapons with people that cops are always trying to arrest. Plus, I created more and better options for myself after graduating high school. Looking for trouble? I was looking to take pictures in an apparent free country. This poor guy? Another laugh. You must be related to him.
@discarted No snitch neighborhoods are for low lives like yourself. Or you are just too pussy to report a crime. "Spending your days with people cops are trying to arrest" who the fuck are you "with" while photographing? What great options did you cultivate after high school? Taking pictures? Get a fucking life. Free country doesn't mean there are no laws. But you don't care about that in your No snitch neighborhood you fucking dumbfuck.
@discarted The Police have complete authority to question people in public spaces from the Patriot act. I have seen some of your bullshit videos. You are just looking for trouble from people who work on protecting you. You are a bitch, a cry baby with the same old responses. Why are you taking pictures of cops anyways? You cry about freedoms and "what laws were broken?" When you go looking for trouble, you get surprised you find it. Hopefully you get your ass kicked so you learn a lesson
@discarted I am not wasting anymore time typing to an ignorant fuck like yourself. Some lowlife living in some slum area with no snitch bullshit. Still haven't answered who these people you photograph the cops like to harass you hang with and photograph. And no I haven't read the entire 342 page document and highly doubt you have. To be honest, if you photographed me after I asked you not to, I would take your camera, bust it open and then bust you open. And this former Marine easily could
@ridesdeepsnow1 Hey you piece of shit. As a former US Army Veteran Infantry soldier could bust your stupid ass head open to bitch. You think your bad huh well I'll tell you what you cock sucking idiot. You are a fucking disgrace to veterans and anybody that upholds our constitution like discarted bust his ass because he chooses to exercise his rights. Sounds like your a fucking terrorist. Obviously a moron too.
@discarted still waiting for your response of these badass people you hang around photographing. And your bullshit "no snitch neighborhood" So people getting robbed and girls getting raped you just laugh and do nothing. You are a fucking pussy, a loud mouth to authority figures cause you have a little dick. Your ignorant asshole answers are reason enough for Law enforcement to question you and take a serious tone with you.
@discarted please do so, I welcome it. I am completely legal. Medical grow jerkoff. You are fucking bullshit. You are breaking the laws of common respect t o others. Walking around LA with a camera and shoving it people's faces and whining that you are within the law is bullshit. Why do you photograph cops doing their job anyways. Its not like you are documenting anything, like the cops not abusing people. you just are on the outskirts looking for an argument about your rights with cops
And your comments aren't breaking the law of common respect? And from a big tough former marine too. You should have more respect yourself. Can you do anything other than reverting to name calling and threats?
@discarted Again making a reason to give answers about your bullshit claims. I don't make threats, I follow through. You make ridiculous claims and avoiding answering anything. You make false claims, take pictures of men gay boy, you are a fucking loser photog bitch in LA. When questioned about looking suspicious you act like an asshole and try tonopah games with cops then complain they are tramping on your rights, when you admit you are with questionable people in the first place
I was by myself when I took photos in the subway station and photography in public is not suspicious behavior. If it was, then talking a on cell phone, carrying a back pack, and driving a Uhaul would be too and you should be detained.
Answer what law did I break photographing the subway station and you'll get your answer.
The Patriot Act is longer than 342 pages, and your grow operation violates federal law.
@discarted I live in CA, fuck federal law, fuck you. The public read version of Patriot act is 342 pages. A law enforcement office would be completely within his rights to detain and question you for photographing such a vital public place that is a hot target for an attack. You got owned by that cop face it. Maybe you shouldn't blatantly do things that toe the line with trouble. So what about these people you are with that attract bad attention, who are they?
@discarted again, with your BS. Toeing is the correct spelling by the way. I don't go making videos getting into people's faces with cameras and then telling them it is too bad if they don't like it cause you are barley within your bounds. I never said you broke the law. I said the officer was clearly within his bounds to investigate and question you. And when they are doing that you are in their custody. They "RELEASE" you when they see fit. You are a BS Liar. You back to your no snitch hood
How was Gylfie clearly within his bounds to legally detain me. What were the specific and articulable facts that make my detainment lawful?
Photography is not against the law. I was not committing a crime. Therefore, no grounds for a legal detainment. Gylfie can attempt a consensual conversation with me, but I'm not required to engage him and can leave. But I was unlawfully detained, so I couldn't leave.
@discarted who are these people you photograph that tends to attract police you were talking about? A police officer has the right to detain you and question you about suspicious acts. Photographing important public places is mentioned in the Patriot Act as one of the many reasons police are now allowed to question you. ANY suspicious behavior gives a law enforcement officer due cause to question and detain you if they see fit. THAT is the law you fucking jackass.
Like the White House for instance. Which means every person photographing the White House should be unlawfully detained for 25 minutes even though they didn't break any laws.
Like I said, cops are allowed to begin a consensual conversation with people, but we do not have to engage them and can leave if not detained. Nor is public photography suspicious behavior or grounds for a lawful detainment.
A very simple google search will reveal some of the people I photograph.
@discarted photography of places deemed potential targets is grounds for suspicion. you are wrong. you may be a photographer but does not meant you know what you are talking about. you are an ignorant loser LA photographer scumbag. A simple google search of what? you aren't any famous photographer, you are a rube. I am finished WASTING time with you. You take advantage of laws for your own benefit. You sneak around crime scenes and then play stupid.
OK, so detain everybody talking a phone at all potential targets which is everything, because what isn't a potential target. Cell phone users should be detained too.
Try my name to start. My work has appeared on major news sites.
You already said that, but keep coming back.
Sneak around and play stupid? That's a nice spin job. Standing up for you rights is playing stupid?
As a former marine you should be all about rights and freedoms. Why else enlist?
@discarted you go around with a videocamera while taking photographs because you are a little bitch looking for trouble hoping to catch anything to sell it. You are a scumbag LA photog. What is your name so we can google your work to see all the wonderful work on major news sites you are on?
@discarted The White house is for public display with a set perimeter and security. And yes you do have to engage a police office in their questioning or it is grounds to detain you for suspicion. Oil Refineries in Long Beach are not basic Common knowledge. Why would you even be photographing the place anyways? to fill your own agenda and create a problem so you can film it with your photog scumbag friends. You seek problems and try to change it to suit your agenda
@ridesdeepsnow1 Legal grow for what personal use? Give me a break pussy. I've been to Iraq Mosul province those Iraqis would die for the freedoms we have. And for you to claim to be a former Marine and run your mouth about people choosing to exercise their own rights and to hold LE accountable. Your just another fucking fagot ass COD playing bitch that sits behind your computer screen and chooses to argue irrelevant BS .
@1990MattC Such scary words from a grunt. Very scary. There are freedoms Bd there are pieces of shot like this guy looking for confrontation. "Photographer's rights" is all this guy yaps about, but is armed with a running video camera creating confrontation going to well known sensitive areas waiting for a situation. Freedom Isn't free, and if for some time if we are safer by LE questioning that's fine with me. This guy goes and looks for this to create drama and story. Get a fucking life
@ridesdeepsnow1 What's your fucking point? I don't understand the relevance to his constitutional rights. I think LE should be held responsible because half the fucking morons that become police don't know the law. Then they try to intimidate others with their power hungry ass. You are a joke and obviously don't uphold the constitution. Remember? You swore oath to uphold it. You would rather slander someone else for exercising their rights. Your such a joke guy.
@ridesdeepsnow1 You sound like a whinny ass bitch my brother CHP this. Fuck off you ignorant moron. You want a fight you got one buddy. You just made a youtube enemy. You want to make something more of it tell me a place and time because I'll be glad to bust you open as a former God Damn Army Ranger could. Talk is cheap bitch you want to threaten others expect to get it back.
@1990MattC Oh no, a YouTube enemy? No, please, anything but that... Army Rangers barley get the training standard Marines get. You Army guys are clean up duty of the real work Marines do. What modern battles have Army led an incursion in? More than glad meeting after work anywhere near Pasadena. Keep stroking it to your list of YouTube enemies fucking chode
@ridesdeepsnow1 Please bitch. Army's 7th Calvary and 3rd ID led the invasion and was first into Baghdad so before you run you little mouth get your facts strait. I have not seen you throw one fact into anything you say. You little coward, of course you would try slander another branch because you haven't served or you would show so respect. Also the boy genius if that true. Why do marines go to go to Ranger school if they are better?
@1990MattC Blah blah blah, if you would like to get some training come to Pasadena, remember there are rights and freedoms and there is exploiting rights and freedoms. People going around pushing buttons on the envelope deserve what they get. It would be different if ge was exposing the oil refinery for some crazy shit, but he wasn't. Just sitting there on purpose to get a reaction so he could get it on video. If you don't want to respect other people's privacy then that's where we differ
@ridesdeepsnow1 Yeah let me get training from a fake ass want to be. Let me think about it I'll pass but I'll tell you what come to the Long Beach VA clinic I'll beat your ass there in front of all those veterans and tell them what you think. I'll bet they jump in and beat your pathetic ass down. Blah blah blah is right bud that's all you say nothing of any truth.
@ridesdeepsnow1 watch w w w. y o u t u b e. com / watch?v=xzg3_LC3bGU watch that bud your beloved marines in ranger school saying its the hardest thing they have done in their military careers.
@ridesdeepsnow1 Also, why is it that marines are always attending schools that they army holds airborne, ranger, pathfinder, oh I forgot because the army can train other branches and lead invasions like the did in Iraq and Afghanistan. They also have longer deployments and and our tasked out more than the marines. Please bitch spare me your.
@ridesdeepsnow1 Ignorance, you don't know anything that's why you run your mouth off to everybody. Do us real veterans a favor and fuck off because we don't need pieces of shit like you bad mouthing the military. Or claiming to be something you're not *cough* *cough* marine. Enjoy your pathetic existence pussy.
@discarted you just keep pushing off explaining your bullshit comments. Why are you a pussy in a no snitch neighborhood? and what badass guys are you with that you are photographing that the cops "always are looking to harass" ?
i'm seeing comments suggesting the photographer was disrespectful in not fully cooperating with the police in this situation but he seemed extremely polite. the officer was laughable in his ignorance. i suppose if you are lookking for "terroristic" behaviour you'll see it know matter what the context
god i swear cops are soooo stupid, they just think their badges talk for themselves. no one cares about you anymore. and im sure wherever this is, it's not gonna get bombed any time soon. This guy is awesome. glad you filmed this.
This video makes me sick, having gone through the same thing before. Glad you video taped the encounter so people see the ignorance of law enforcement. I was once stopped by the Atlanta PD for photographing trains from a public bridge, when I told the cop I was on public property, he said fine, next time we see you here we will arrest you for criminal tresspass...on a public sidewalk...
I would guess that most of the people who are siding with the LE are not photographers and have not found themselves insimiliar circumstances. The photog may could have handled the situation better by not starting the conversation on he defensive, but I understand why he did. I give him major props for videoing the encounter as there can now be no real misunderstanding what took place. As someone who is both a photographer and a one time security guard, I wish more people would stand up
There are too many self righteous people out there who feel they are above everybody else. When questioned they start crying constitutional rights but when something major happens like 9-11 then they start blaming and asking where all the security was. The cops job is to protect public interest, What he's gonna wait till the guy pulls out something or does something before he does anything???? Photog was disrespectful in not cooperating and trying to act like a smartass...
You maybe could have handled that situation a tad bit better, simply by stating that you are in fact not working with al qaeda, which should be a given, but that guy was an asshole. but still its good to see someone step up to some power obsessed cop..
do you really think that would have appeased Gylfie? and do you really think that would have stopped the unlawful detainment and harassment? come on now. they were going to make an example of me no matter what
plus, anything is a terrorist target so does that mean we're all now be stopped for simply walking down the street because we're talking a cell phone, holding a camera, or carrying a backpack.
that's the road we're going down if we don't stopped this nonsense
This dumbass swears he is soo smart with his I'm not committing a crime the dude didn't have to stop at all until he asked am I being detained anytime before that he could of left but since he asked and got the deputy thinking he said yes, and if he is being detained he could be searched out and asked for an I.d. It's not a must he has one on his person though
@discarted: Yep....this guy was a asshole cop with a severely inflated ego. Being cooperative would have probably got you the same result, what was the photog supposed to say, "sorry ocifer, ill never take pictures in public again i promise"
I thought that fat ass, bald headed faggot Rick Gylfie was more of a smart ass. He's not even a real fuckin' cop, he's just a fuckin' secuirty guard in a subway station, and you wanna know why? He's too stupid to get a real job and knows that if he was a real cop out on the streets, he'd get the shit kicked out of punk ass on a daily basis. That fat, bald headed faggot Rick Gylfie needs to do everybody a favor and blow his brains out. He's a fuckin' joke.
@hemicudaboi The policeman was upfront and respectful with the photographer about his reasons for asking questions and invesitgating why he was taking pictures in such a sensitive area. I hadn't though about it before but it's damn true that a terrorist organization would love to have photographs of places like these. The photographer shoulod have conceded this by not acting like a douchebag and simply acknowledge the severity of what the officer was protecting against: terrorism.
@GreenLeavesOnATree In short, in the beginning I find no fault with the officer. He did exactly as he should. The photographer made an issue where there wasn't one and I'm a little embarrassed for him.
That fat ass pig is making things up,stuttering and trying to act as if he knows. if you..are in..to sell.to them..What a dumb fuck and a idiot with a psychopomp syndrome. The POLICE is making an ILLEGAL stop NO,you do not have to give or show ID. It is against the consititution as this is not a papers only to walk,travel or go outside country.THIS IS NOT the Middle East and how offensive for a pig not to know the law and accuse someone of selling pics to terrorist. Go DIAF
The pig has a point, so dont be such a stupid little shit. An officer has every right to ask you for ID ANY TIME. Just hand over the ID and you could go about your way, I hate pigs as much as the next person, but you my friend are in ignorant douche bag.
And everybody has the right to tell police that they can't see their ID when that person has not broken any laws. If you're not LAWFULLY detained you can walk away.
Close... You do not have to show them any type of ID legally, but if asked, you are required to identify yourself by name only, nothing more. (Lying can bring later legit charges and give them reasonable suspicion) Although in this example he never asked for his name, only ID, he could have refused a search of his wallet as long as his ID was not visible from the outside of the wallet and did not give consent (even somewhat)for the police to enter it
In CA you are required by law to provide your name (and nothing else) if you are DETAINED by police. If you are NOT DETAINED, you do not have to provide any info and can walk away. CA is not a stop and ID state. We do not have to carry ID here.
Either way though, you do not have to speak to police during any kind of encounter, except for providing your name if detained.
@discarted wrong, a Police officer takes you in their custody until they release you. It is state law to carry state issued ID wither Driver's license or standard ID. The officer addressed you, and because you are an ignorant jerkoff you aroused believable suspicion and you ultimately gave him the right to question you. Maybe if smart ass people like you didn't go looking for problems he wouldnt have to give BS reasons for common sense reasons it would be suspicious taking photos in metro subway
In CA it is not the law to carry ID. And when detained, you only have to provide your real name to the officer. Nothing else. Again, in CA it is not the law to carry ID. Understand? And if you're not driving a car, you don't need to carry a driver's license in CA.
@discarted you are fucking totally wrong. It is a law to carry a Driver's License at any time operating a motor vehicle. Please post the link where your dreamland law exists. And it is a law to carry Photo ID outside your residence. You are an ignorant tool spouting laws that is wrong. you are a fucking tool jackass photographer bothering people and crying about nothing
That's what I said. Read again. You need your driver's license only when you're operating a vehicle in CA. Other than, CA law does not require people to carry ID or hand over ID when detained by police. You will not be cited or arrested for not having ID on you in CA. You only need to provide your real name to police when detained in CA.
Leaving my house now without my driver's license or ID, so you should call cops, since according to you it is against the law to not have ID on you in CA.
@Pafoofnik1 "i have never seen a law that requires" that comment of yours alone shows why you would be unaware of the law. And yes it is true you have to carry ID. Such a law does exist. Go check it out for yourself. Educate yourself before you respond to someone on youtube by saying "I think" you really sound like a fucking moron
@Pafoofnik1 My brother was a CHIP and knows his stuff and he is now a Lawyer so I think he knows. Just because I personally don't know how to direct you to read for yourself doesn't make me a liar. Look for yourself I am not your workhorse.
Still pounding your chest about this non-existing law that requires people to carry ID in CA. I have checked it out for myself. The law doesn't exist. And who cares that your bro was a CHIP and is now a lawyer. You do not need to be a cop or a lawyer to know laws. Most cops don't know the laws either, which is evident by this video. However, the laws they do know are all contempt of cop charges. Like obstruction, disorderly conduct, failure to obey an unlawful order, etc
The "pigs" you hate so much, are of your own making and created by people like you that are so complacently, dropping to your knees and polishing their knob, so "you can be on your way" unmolested. Good old General P had a good name for people like you...."yellow-belly".
I'm just glad to see that an alert Deputy was doing his job even though his time was wasted by some immature kid. This photographer acted like a fool. The photographer said that he knew his rights, wrong little boy. The Deputy could detain you legally for up to 72 hours. The Deputy tried to explain this to you...no "debate" about it. If you are an advocate you're obviously an amateur. L.A.S.D. is a superb department.
@snarch9269: I've heard this "detain you legally for up to 72 hours" before. Trouble is, no one has ever actually been able to come up with the statute. I don't think a such a statute even exists.
You are most likely confusing 'detain' with 'arrest' and 'file formal charges'.
Looks like the High School Diploma Squad strikes again. Most "peace" officers aren't qualified to manage a lemonade stand, much less "protect and serve." I hope Discarted takes legal action against Barney Fife.
He had probable cause... i guess its legal. For example, in schools teachers can just search through your bag if they have probable cause uhave soemthing in there.
@Kimchiman00 He did NOT have probable cause that a crime had been or was going to be committed and therefore had no right to search. I'm guessing you're talking about high school students. Being minors, they lack some legal rights of adults, so teachers don't need "probable cause" to search on school grounds. (The same search done off school property without consent would be a crime.)
THANK YOU GYLFIE! I commend that officer for doing a great job.
Don't fuck with national security!
You would be begging for an officer like that if your family were being attacked by terrorists or gangsters... my opinion of this video is the opposite of it's intentions.
it's a "look at this bad law enforcement officer: FAIL!". the law enforcement WINS!
Fuck Deputy Gylfie. How is he doing a great job when he doesn't even know the laws. He just makes shit up as he goes long. Typical dumb ass cop. He needs to stick to what he knows best and that's eating doughnuts and beating his meat
@dp535i Attacked by terrorists or gangsters? If you're going to make up shit, why not zombies or werewolves? Don't you think real terrorists are smart enough to hide what they're doing? Don't you think they, unlike Officer Gylfie, know the difference between a real target and a phony one? This has nothing to do with "national security." This cop is a grown up version of Eric Cartman..."Respect my authoritay!"
@MarkReadPickens - The officer is a tool for national security, whether he is intelligent or not. He's trained/programmed to be the way he is. I don't fault the police, because the people that run them got em on a short leash.
i'm not sure why you think i'm making up terrorist and gangsters as if they're folklore like werewolves.
Who do u think controls everything?
If they wanted a nice guy they could have just hired a door greeter who says "welcome to the bus station... i love u".
@dp535i The officer in question is a “tool,” but irrelevant to national security. Unless police are robots, short leash or not, they make their own choices.
In this context, "Terrorists and gangsters" is code for nonexistent threats (such as zombies and werewolves). Subway photographers are no threat to national security. Gylfie deserves ridicule.
Who "controls everything?" Those frightened by bogus national-security threats who seek safety by giving up their (and my) rights.
@MarkReadPickens - u don't have to push ur limits to prove that u have rights. i some people are just entertained by trying to out wit an officer just because they're law enforcement.
while at a glance this video may seem like this cop deserves ridicule, the first time i watched it i assumed the cop would be an arrogant pig. i listened to both of them & i see the whole scene.
a cop is on duty. a camera guy starts aiming the cam in suspicious places places in a sneaky manner cops look for....
@dp535i - what was that camera guy trying to film then? he wasn't watching the camera. i think he was watching the cop and waiting for him to investigate his suspicious actions. then the camera guy smarts off and pretends to be mr law know it all...
this video looks like a pissing match for ego to me.
@dp535i What limits did the photographer push? He has a right to take perfectly legal photographs in a public place. How could anyone not deserving ridicule think this threatens national security? "Suspicious places?" "...in a sneaky manner cops look for...?" How was it sneaky? Unlike real "terrorists and gangsters," he was doing it right out in the open! That's how this bully with a badge noticed him.
There's a greater threat from zombies and werewolves than subway photographers.
@Bluto2973 - yes, i do have an idea when they can question someone. even the officer does. he even explains it to the idiot camera man who clearly did something that wasn't shown on video which made him look suspicious to the officer. people need to get a life and stop trying to harass good cops. there are plenty of idiot cops and bad cops out there to worry about. this cop was cool. nobody got hurt, nobody got arrested. but the cop definitely did a good job in my book.
@dp535i For an officer to perform a Terry stop, he must have a reasonable, articulable suspicion that a crime has been committed, is being committed, or is about to be committed. Photography in public does not constitute reasonable suspicion. Might as well detain and interogate any tourist and/or journalist while he's at it. Futhermore, his lies and threats are enough to discredit this piece of trash. Police don't "protect and serve"; they "harass and intimidate."
@dp535i If there was an actual threat, why was no one arrested? How does wasting attention on nonexistent threats constitute being a "good cop?" Who was harassing him? Is it harassment to mind your own business, as the photographer was doing?
I agree there are plenty of "idiot cops and bad cops out there." Officer Gylfie is one of them.
@MarkReadPickens - let me ask you this. what exactly was the photographer filming? we both watched this video but it doesn't look like the photographer is focusing on anything in particular other than maybe the infrastructure.
before the cop approached him, what is he filming? and why?
is he just a young amateur photographer, or was he acting suspicious to make the cop question him? just looks to me like the photographer is copying that other guy from NY who does almost the same thing.
@dp535i We don't know what he WAS photographing, but we do know what he was NOT photographing: anything that threatened national security. Who fears terrorists so incompetent they can't take photographs surreptitiously?
Here's a better question: Can anyone name a single thing he could have been photographing that would be of any conceivable value to a terrorist? (In the real world, please. Not in officer Gylfie's childish imagination.)
@MarkReadPickens - in this video, i can see the location of ceiling surveillance cameras, the walls are approx 8" thick, and there is tile on the floors and walls, the security scanners are approx 4 1/2" tall, one security guard.
again, this is just by looking at the video. i'm sure the photographs would look more clear and specific to what was actually being shot.
i think it's ok for an officer to be trained to fear the worst.
both parties in this video are intentionally messing with eachother
@dp535i I appreciate your attention to detail, but what does any of this have to do with a real-world threat? Part of police training is identifying actual, not fantasy, threats.
Can anyone explain why terrorists can't take pictures without anyone noticing? Who but a Barney Fife would focus on someone taking pictures of nothing that mattered right out in the open? Officer Gylfie is a bully with a badge.
Deputy "Goofy", whoops, I mean Deputy Gylfie is a fat, bald headed, idiotic old man that doesn't know shit about the law or current events. In the video Deputy "Goofy" says that he's "not stupid", but if that were true then why is it that based on his educational level the best job he could get was patrolling a subway station? He's just insecure about his male pattern baldness and hates the fact that even though he thinks he's a cop, all he really is, is a 50 year old, low level security guard.
Keep up the good work, dude! I hope word of your work gets out to all the various agencies and they think twice about harassing photographers. You are the man!
ahhh, it wasn't even a good subject to shoot. All this trouble with video taping yourself, editing it, and posting it, almost seems like you were asking for it. You could have shot 2 whole rolls of film in the time they detained you. Your hobby seems to be confrontation rather than photography.
let it go man. the photographer was wrong by not complying with the officer, trying to act as if he knew the law. if he wasn't doing anything wrong, he should have just complyed. he was wrong adnd you are wrong by defending a person who was acting wrong, grow up and let it go.
If a cop tells you to stop, ask him if any crime has been committed nearby. If a crime has been committed in the vicinity, then he can legally question you, because of proximity to the crime. However if no crime has occurred, ask the cop if he intends to cite you. If not, ignore him and go about your legal business, secretly hoping that he arrests you. You may then sue him until he is naked. Under no circumstances tell a cop anything except "It's not my policy to talk to the police."
Dude, get a life and seek some professional help. Sooner or later, you're going to really get your "rights" violated and then maybe you'll learn to stop messing with the police and allow them to do their jobs without having some snotty little shit like yourself messing with them. Get a real job dude!
@Mr70sKid well said, I believe in your constitutional rights, but when you go out looking for trouble and messing with others, it is almost guaranteed others are gonna get angry when you are out to mess with them.
You are doing a great thing!!!! Keep up the good work! This cop doesn't get that detaining you because you're taking photos is ILLEGAL! Cops just get their panties in a bunch because you question them and they are used to being blindly obeyed!
You go Discarted... !!!! youre just trying to prove a point in popo harrasment,,,, i fucking hate when they do shit like that and are backed up by "THE LAW"....keep up the work dude....it happens evrywhere specially to mexicans..youre lucky they dont fuck you up for no reason. happnd to me twice..once for asking why i was stopped and the second time for refusing to identify myself...they had no right to stop me either....well fuck it...keep it up
You go Discarted... !!!! youre just trying to prove a point in popo harrasment,,,, i fucking hate when they do shit like that and are backed up by "THE LAW"....keep up the work dude....it happens evrywhere specially to mexicans..youre lucky they dont fuck you up for no reason. happnd to me twice..once for asking why i was stopped and the second time for refusing to identify myself...they had no right to stop me either....well fuck it...keep it up
You go Discarted... !!!! youre just trying to prove a point in popo harrasment,,,, i fucking hate when they do shit like that and are backed up by "THE LAW"....keep up the work dude....it happens evrywhere specially to mexicans..youre lucky they dont fuck you up for no reason. happnd to me twice..once for asking why i was stopped and the second time for refusing to identify myself...they had no right to stop me either....well fuck it...keep it up
The photographer has the right to take photos because the station is a public building HOWEVER, the deputy DID have the legal right to detain him to make sure that he was not committing a crime by taking photos of the infrastructure of the station to be used for illegal purposes. The deputy found that he was not committing a crime and let him go. THE PHOTOGRAPHER WAS ASKING FOR TROUBLE. WHY DO YOU THINK HE ALREADY HAD A VIDEO CAMERA ROLLING? HE IS AN IDIOT WHO WANTS TO INTERFERE WITH COPS.
@MrBosox2010 then the police can detain anybody to make sure they are not committing crimes..sounds like pre crime or thought crime to me..it is unlawful, but the police have really strayed on what their powers are. so if im out walking i could theoretically be stopped ten times to make sure im behaving legally. unconstitutional and against common sense. pictures are up everywhere of the subway.if he was not in the act of doing something illegal then he shouldnt have harrassed him..
@MrBosox2010 If the cop knew the laws he's supposed to be enforcing he wouldn't be 'interfered' with in the first place because he'd realize what the guy is doing is perfectly legal. Yes, he let him go, but I'm deeply worried with how the officer threatens him with all sorts of punishment based on the fact he doesn't like his attitude. It's probably more likely I'll be abused by an ignorant and irresponsible police officer than bombed by terrorists.
@MrBosox2010 If the cop knew the laws he's supposed to be enforcing he wouldn't be 'interfered' with in the first place because he'd realize what the guy is doing is perfectly legal. Yes, he let him go, but I'm deeply worried with how the officer threatens him with all sorts of punishment based on the fact he doesn't like his attitude. It's probably more likely I'll be abused by an ignorant and irresponsible police officer than bombed by terrorists.
@MrBosox2010 If the cop knew the laws he's supposed to be enforcing he wouldn't be 'interfered' with in the first place because he'd realize what the guy is doing is perfectly legal. Yes, he let him go, but I'm deeply worried with how the officer threatens him with all sorts of punishment based on the fact he doesn't like his attitude. It's probably more likely I'll be abused by an ignorant and irresponsible police officer than bombed by terrorists.
@MrBosox2010 If the cop knew the laws he's supposed to be enforcing he wouldn't be 'interfered' with in the first place because he'd realize what the guy is doing is perfectly legal. Yes, he let him go, but I'm deeply worried with how the officer threatens him with all sorts of punishment based on the fact he doesn't like his attitude. It's probably more likely I'll be abused by an ignorant and irresponsible police officer than bombed by terrorists.
@MrBosox2010 If the cop knew the laws he's supposed to be enforcing he wouldn't be 'interfered' with in the first place because he'd realize what the guy is doing is perfectly legal. Yes, he let him go, but I'm deeply worried with how the officer threatens him with all sorts of punishment based on the fact he doesn't like his attitude. It's probably more likely I'll be abused by an ignorant and irresponsible police officer than bombed by terrorists.
How did the deputy find out I was not committing a crime? All he did was run me to see if I had any warrants that he could arrest me on. He was never able to determine (and still hasn't), why I was taking pictures.
My video camera is always rolling when I take pictures in public because situations like this occur all the time.
And the cop approached me and interfered with me. I didn't go up to them.
@Neville6000 HAHA, look at all of these comments you posted... like 10 comments within 25 minutes holy shit what a loser. Poor 42 year-old low-life is mad at the world he lives in because nobody likes him. He was probably beat in high school, he's not even fucking American and he spends time to comment on American issues... Shows how much of a bitch he is to our American culture. Plus we all know he doesn't get laid. sad. Canada doesn't want you, and neither does America. Try Mexico scumbag.
Wow. What a mentality these cops have. If I was a terrorist and wanted to blow up some place, do you think I would use a regular camera to take photos. No. I would use a small hidden camera and a small recorder to make any details of the surrounding area. That's what I would do. So any terrorist would do the same thing. Normal people don't think like that therefore they just want to take a legal picture of the damn place for memory. This cop is out line and was probably scarring that guy.
Pt2. entitles you to such a right. There are usually designated areas for such things. Oh. Wait! There is an public elementary school a few blocks away with a library. Hmm... It's a public school so, therefore , I can probably walk inside take photographs and use the computers. WRONG!! It's really private property like the MTA station. It's all private business that caters to certain individuals. I'm all for photographers rights as well, but do get my point?
Yes,i did go to college. And yes, there are designated areas for the students to hand out flayers , protest , ect... As for the CA public colleges and universities protests that occurred, if the administrators wanted to close down the school because of the protest, they could have done it. It's only "public" in the sense that anyone can can apply or registered for classes, but it's private property just like the metro. It's not public in the sense you make it out to be.
@1717now: Please stop coming on discarted's board talking and spewing bullshit; you have NO idea what you're talking about, and secondly, you're just being a big right-wing law and order douchebag who believes EVERYTHING the Bush admin/Faux Noise tells him.
PT 1. Let the Deputy do his job. BTW most of the time "Public" does not truly mean it's "Public" All property is really private property. Ever been to a community college or university? Sure, It's a public institution. But you can't just walk in and protest your cause where ever you like because you think it's "public". A) if your not a student, you can be arrested for trespassing. B) Even if you are a student, you cannot just protest at any open area because you think the word "public"
@1717now: Are you still spewing right-wing bullshit like a big, brainwashed baby? Or can you think for yourself without letting the law and cops doing it for you?
If the cop doesn't do anything and something does happen than everybody wants to blame the police and ask where they were. The cop was doing his job in my opinion and had every right to detain and question you until he was confident enough to let you go. Better safe than sorry in my opinion.
based on this reasoning then everyone driving a vehicle, carrying a backpack, or talking on a cell phone in public should be stopped and detained for 25 minutes and accused of being "in cahoots with al qaeda" since all of those things have been used in terrorist attacks.
is that what you want? do you want to be detained for talking on your cell phone in public space?
more important, was the cop doing his job when he threatened to put me on the "FBI's hit list"?
@discarted Talking on your cell phone in a public space is not suspicious but, taking pictures of a subway is. You probably would not have been held up that long had you just complied and answered the officers questions and stopped being a smart ass.
brainwashed !!!!
giodmx313 2 weeks ago
Man that cop is a fucking dumbass
uncommon911 2 weeks ago 2
nice combo on frank west by chun
Timic83tc 2 weeks ago
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Timic83tc 2 weeks ago
I agree you have a right to take the pictures. I also feel the "playing stupid" douchebag act didn't help your case.
cbell64 2 weeks ago
I applaud what you're standing up for, but honestly you seem to be looking for confrontation.
aperionx 2 weeks ago
@aperionx ARE YOU KIDDING!?!
DallasJRC 2 weeks ago
@DallasJRC No I'm not, perhaps I'm not being clear. @discarted could have been more respectful, just because an officer is being a dick to you doesn't mean being a dick back will help get your point across. I think this video is a good example: v=xEPzx7I_bvU both the Cop and the photographer were respectful of each other, yet the photographer clearly stated his rights and his right to photograph and video the buildings.
aperionx 2 weeks ago
@aperionx I disagree. When you are a taxpayer well within your rights, we have the RIGHT to say whatever we would like. Also, I find nothing wrong with being caustic when someone on the taxpayers tab is on a power trip. Especially when you know you're right. Had the taxpayer paid officer approached the young man correctly,which is "with precaution" this would have been over. But no, he had to go into the situation with attitude. Its human nature to go on the defensive when approached this way.
DallasJRC 2 weeks ago 2
@aperionx Also, they dont put the good cops on subway patrol.
DallasJRC 2 weeks ago
"I want to know if you are in cahoots with al-Qaeda to sell these pictures to them"
He should have asked the officer what the legal definition and prison time is for cahooting.
reddwarfposse 2 weeks ago 4
@discarted- your a moron...
LASD28 1 year ago
@LASD28
Another example of an illiterate and arrogant LASD member. Why are there so many of you?
discarted 1 year ago 8
Gylfie is an idiot
tacit40 1 year ago
Terroism involves terrozing another, so by Rick Gylfie telling the photographer that he'll submit his name to the FBI and TLO to wreck havoc on his life, he himself is making terroist threats. Another important fact is this ignorant fat pig is gulity of an illegal search and seizure and could have put this poor photographer in jail for something that wasn't even a crime. Makes you wonder about his previous collars. Maybe somebody need to submit Gylfie's name to the FBI and Internal Affairs.
AntiPoliceCorruption 1 year ago
My question is for the photographer. Didn't you receive any kind of feedback from the district attorney or Internal Affairs about any discipline that was handed down to this ignorant dumbass cop or did they just sweep it under the rug like everything else?
AntiPoliceCorruption 1 year ago
You should sue in Federal court if the time limit is not up. These deputies have inflated ideas of their own importance, they are not there to stop terrorist attacks, they are there for purse snatchers and maybe a flasher or two. Ridiculous people. SUE.
boatbrain2 1 year ago
Rick Gylfie is a fat, bald headed punk-ass pussy with no balls and a high-pitched voice that makes him sound like he takes it up the ass. He was definitely picked on all through high school and thought this job would get him respect, but all it did was make him look like more of a fuckin' joke. Rick "goofy", whoops, I mean Gylfie, needs to stick to what he knows best and that's beating his meat and eating doughnuts. I bet the LASD is laughing their asses off at Rick Gylfie right about now.
AntiPoliceCorruption 1 year ago
Hmm, I get your points,, but the police do have a tough job. Its one thing to know ones rights and then another to just be disrespectful. They have to ask you what your doing, Im sure someone probably pointed you out to the cop and he was doing his job, asking why and what you were doing. I have seen this at a shopping mall. A guy was taking photos and an Orange PD cop did the same as this sheriff with you, asked what and why you were taking photos. Good job, but you could have been nicer.
angeldesanto 1 year ago
@angeldesanto
Next time I'll say thank you when a cop threatens to submit me to the TLO and FBI's hit list.
But I love your assumption that I was pointed out to the cop when that is not the case.
And if the job is too tough, then find something else.
discarted 1 year ago
@discarted it's easy for you to say to find another job. But when you need protection or help I bet you call the police as well as any of us. You are looking for trouble, and you found it. YOu could have easily said what you were taking pictures of but you decided to be an asshole and mess with this poor guy. I am not a fan of cops myself but at least he does a job you don;t have the balls to do. Taking photos around Los Angeles and yelling about "photographic rights" is a pussy position to take
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1
You ever hear of no snitch neighborhoods? No we don't call cops. I don't have the balls to be a cop? That's laughable. Try spending your days with a camera and no weapons with people that cops are always trying to arrest. Plus, I created more and better options for myself after graduating high school. Looking for trouble? I was looking to take pictures in an apparent free country. This poor guy? Another laugh. You must be related to him.
discarted 1 year ago
@discarted No snitch neighborhoods are for low lives like yourself. Or you are just too pussy to report a crime. "Spending your days with people cops are trying to arrest" who the fuck are you "with" while photographing? What great options did you cultivate after high school? Taking pictures? Get a fucking life. Free country doesn't mean there are no laws. But you don't care about that in your No snitch neighborhood you fucking dumbfuck.
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1
What law was broken photographing the subway station?
discarted 1 year ago
@discarted The Police have complete authority to question people in public spaces from the Patriot act. I have seen some of your bullshit videos. You are just looking for trouble from people who work on protecting you. You are a bitch, a cry baby with the same old responses. Why are you taking pictures of cops anyways? You cry about freedoms and "what laws were broken?" When you go looking for trouble, you get surprised you find it. Hopefully you get your ass kicked so you learn a lesson
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1
Have you actually read the Patriot Act? or are you simply regurgitating some non-fact that someone told you.
discarted 1 year ago
@discarted I am not wasting anymore time typing to an ignorant fuck like yourself. Some lowlife living in some slum area with no snitch bullshit. Still haven't answered who these people you photograph the cops like to harass you hang with and photograph. And no I haven't read the entire 342 page document and highly doubt you have. To be honest, if you photographed me after I asked you not to, I would take your camera, bust it open and then bust you open. And this former Marine easily could
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1
come try
discarted 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1 Hey you piece of shit. As a former US Army Veteran Infantry soldier could bust your stupid ass head open to bitch. You think your bad huh well I'll tell you what you cock sucking idiot. You are a fucking disgrace to veterans and anybody that upholds our constitution like discarted bust his ass because he chooses to exercise his rights. Sounds like your a fucking terrorist. Obviously a moron too.
1990MattC 1 year ago
@discarted still waiting for your response of these badass people you hang around photographing. And your bullshit "no snitch neighborhood" So people getting robbed and girls getting raped you just laugh and do nothing. You are a fucking pussy, a loud mouth to authority figures cause you have a little dick. Your ignorant asshole answers are reason enough for Law enforcement to question you and take a serious tone with you.
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1
Once you tell me what law was broken for taking pictures in a public place I'll answer your questions.
But maybe I should start reporting to the cops and send them some links to your grow videos.
discarted 1 year ago
@discarted please do so, I welcome it. I am completely legal. Medical grow jerkoff. You are fucking bullshit. You are breaking the laws of common respect t o others. Walking around LA with a camera and shoving it people's faces and whining that you are within the law is bullshit. Why do you photograph cops doing their job anyways. Its not like you are documenting anything, like the cops not abusing people. you just are on the outskirts looking for an argument about your rights with cops
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1
And your comments aren't breaking the law of common respect? And from a big tough former marine too. You should have more respect yourself. Can you do anything other than reverting to name calling and threats?
discarted 1 year ago
@discarted Again making a reason to give answers about your bullshit claims. I don't make threats, I follow through. You make ridiculous claims and avoiding answering anything. You make false claims, take pictures of men gay boy, you are a fucking loser photog bitch in LA. When questioned about looking suspicious you act like an asshole and try tonopah games with cops then complain they are tramping on your rights, when you admit you are with questionable people in the first place
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1
Then follow through.
What ridiculous claim have I made?
I was by myself when I took photos in the subway station and photography in public is not suspicious behavior. If it was, then talking a on cell phone, carrying a back pack, and driving a Uhaul would be too and you should be detained.
Answer what law did I break photographing the subway station and you'll get your answer.
The Patriot Act is longer than 342 pages, and your grow operation violates federal law.
discarted 1 year ago
@discarted I live in CA, fuck federal law, fuck you. The public read version of Patriot act is 342 pages. A law enforcement office would be completely within his rights to detain and question you for photographing such a vital public place that is a hot target for an attack. You got owned by that cop face it. Maybe you shouldn't blatantly do things that toe the line with trouble. So what about these people you are with that attract bad attention, who are they?
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1
Once you tell me what law was violated, like the federal laws you're violating, you will get an answer.
Isn't growing weed TOWING the line with federal trouble?
discarted 1 year ago
@discarted again, with your BS. Toeing is the correct spelling by the way. I don't go making videos getting into people's faces with cameras and then telling them it is too bad if they don't like it cause you are barley within your bounds. I never said you broke the law. I said the officer was clearly within his bounds to investigate and question you. And when they are doing that you are in their custody. They "RELEASE" you when they see fit. You are a BS Liar. You back to your no snitch hood
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1
My BS? Is there a mirror near you?
How was Gylfie clearly within his bounds to legally detain me. What were the specific and articulable facts that make my detainment lawful?
Photography is not against the law. I was not committing a crime. Therefore, no grounds for a legal detainment. Gylfie can attempt a consensual conversation with me, but I'm not required to engage him and can leave. But I was unlawfully detained, so I couldn't leave.
What am I lying about?
discarted 1 year ago
@discarted who are these people you photograph that tends to attract police you were talking about? A police officer has the right to detain you and question you about suspicious acts. Photographing important public places is mentioned in the Patriot Act as one of the many reasons police are now allowed to question you. ANY suspicious behavior gives a law enforcement officer due cause to question and detain you if they see fit. THAT is the law you fucking jackass.
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1
Like the White House for instance. Which means every person photographing the White House should be unlawfully detained for 25 minutes even though they didn't break any laws.
Like I said, cops are allowed to begin a consensual conversation with people, but we do not have to engage them and can leave if not detained. Nor is public photography suspicious behavior or grounds for a lawful detainment.
A very simple google search will reveal some of the people I photograph.
discarted 1 year ago
@discarted photography of places deemed potential targets is grounds for suspicion. you are wrong. you may be a photographer but does not meant you know what you are talking about. you are an ignorant loser LA photographer scumbag. A simple google search of what? you aren't any famous photographer, you are a rube. I am finished WASTING time with you. You take advantage of laws for your own benefit. You sneak around crime scenes and then play stupid.
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1
OK, so detain everybody talking a phone at all potential targets which is everything, because what isn't a potential target. Cell phone users should be detained too.
Try my name to start. My work has appeared on major news sites.
You already said that, but keep coming back.
Sneak around and play stupid? That's a nice spin job. Standing up for you rights is playing stupid?
As a former marine you should be all about rights and freedoms. Why else enlist?
discarted 1 year ago
@discarted you go around with a videocamera while taking photographs because you are a little bitch looking for trouble hoping to catch anything to sell it. You are a scumbag LA photog. What is your name so we can google your work to see all the wonderful work on major news sites you are on?
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1
You said you were done. Not true?
discarted 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1
Just curious if you received those links I sent you of my work that is currently being shown on NBC, NPR, etc.
I haven't receive a loud mouthed response yet from the big tough former marine who's brother is a big bad former CHIP.
FYI, the world doesn't care that you were a marine or your brother was a cop, so get over it. You're no hero.
discarted 1 year ago 6
@discarted The White house is for public display with a set perimeter and security. And yes you do have to engage a police office in their questioning or it is grounds to detain you for suspicion. Oil Refineries in Long Beach are not basic Common knowledge. Why would you even be photographing the place anyways? to fill your own agenda and create a problem so you can film it with your photog scumbag friends. You seek problems and try to change it to suit your agenda
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1 Legal grow for what personal use? Give me a break pussy. I've been to Iraq Mosul province those Iraqis would die for the freedoms we have. And for you to claim to be a former Marine and run your mouth about people choosing to exercise their own rights and to hold LE accountable. Your just another fucking fagot ass COD playing bitch that sits behind your computer screen and chooses to argue irrelevant BS .
1990MattC 1 year ago
@1990MattC Such scary words from a grunt. Very scary. There are freedoms Bd there are pieces of shot like this guy looking for confrontation. "Photographer's rights" is all this guy yaps about, but is armed with a running video camera creating confrontation going to well known sensitive areas waiting for a situation. Freedom Isn't free, and if for some time if we are safer by LE questioning that's fine with me. This guy goes and looks for this to create drama and story. Get a fucking life
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1 What's your fucking point? I don't understand the relevance to his constitutional rights. I think LE should be held responsible because half the fucking morons that become police don't know the law. Then they try to intimidate others with their power hungry ass. You are a joke and obviously don't uphold the constitution. Remember? You swore oath to uphold it. You would rather slander someone else for exercising their rights. Your such a joke guy.
1990MattC 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1 All you yap about is nothing. Nothing of any importance to the subject. You need to get a fucking life buddy.
1990MattC 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1 You sound like a whinny ass bitch my brother CHP this. Fuck off you ignorant moron. You want a fight you got one buddy. You just made a youtube enemy. You want to make something more of it tell me a place and time because I'll be glad to bust you open as a former God Damn Army Ranger could. Talk is cheap bitch you want to threaten others expect to get it back.
1990MattC 1 year ago
@1990MattC Oh no, a YouTube enemy? No, please, anything but that... Army Rangers barley get the training standard Marines get. You Army guys are clean up duty of the real work Marines do. What modern battles have Army led an incursion in? More than glad meeting after work anywhere near Pasadena. Keep stroking it to your list of YouTube enemies fucking chode
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1 Please bitch. Army's 7th Calvary and 3rd ID led the invasion and was first into Baghdad so before you run you little mouth get your facts strait. I have not seen you throw one fact into anything you say. You little coward, of course you would try slander another branch because you haven't served or you would show so respect. Also the boy genius if that true. Why do marines go to go to Ranger school if they are better?
1990MattC 1 year ago
@1990MattC Blah blah blah, if you would like to get some training come to Pasadena, remember there are rights and freedoms and there is exploiting rights and freedoms. People going around pushing buttons on the envelope deserve what they get. It would be different if ge was exposing the oil refinery for some crazy shit, but he wasn't. Just sitting there on purpose to get a reaction so he could get it on video. If you don't want to respect other people's privacy then that's where we differ
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1 Yeah let me get training from a fake ass want to be. Let me think about it I'll pass but I'll tell you what come to the Long Beach VA clinic I'll beat your ass there in front of all those veterans and tell them what you think. I'll bet they jump in and beat your pathetic ass down. Blah blah blah is right bud that's all you say nothing of any truth.
1990MattC 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1 Keep talking shit... address pussy give it up I'll see you there.
1990MattC 1 year ago
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@ridesdeepsnow1 watch w w w. y o u t u b e. com / watch?v=xzg3_LC3bGU watch that bud your beloved marines in ranger school saying its the hardest thing they have done in their military careers.
1990MattC 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1 Also, why is it that marines are always attending schools that they army holds airborne, ranger, pathfinder, oh I forgot because the army can train other branches and lead invasions like the did in Iraq and Afghanistan. They also have longer deployments and and our tasked out more than the marines. Please bitch spare me your.
1990MattC 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1 Ignorance, you don't know anything that's why you run your mouth off to everybody. Do us real veterans a favor and fuck off because we don't need pieces of shit like you bad mouthing the military. Or claiming to be something you're not *cough* *cough* marine. Enjoy your pathetic existence pussy.
1990MattC 1 year ago
@discarted you just keep pushing off explaining your bullshit comments. Why are you a pussy in a no snitch neighborhood? and what badass guys are you with that you are photographing that the cops "always are looking to harass" ?
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
i'm seeing comments suggesting the photographer was disrespectful in not fully cooperating with the police in this situation but he seemed extremely polite. the officer was laughable in his ignorance. i suppose if you are lookking for "terroristic" behaviour you'll see it know matter what the context
TYSONHAWKE 1 year ago
god i swear cops are soooo stupid, they just think their badges talk for themselves. no one cares about you anymore. and im sure wherever this is, it's not gonna get bombed any time soon. This guy is awesome. glad you filmed this.
krewking801 1 year ago
This video makes me sick, having gone through the same thing before. Glad you video taped the encounter so people see the ignorance of law enforcement. I was once stopped by the Atlanta PD for photographing trains from a public bridge, when I told the cop I was on public property, he said fine, next time we see you here we will arrest you for criminal tresspass...on a public sidewalk...
nikosjk1 1 year ago
I would guess that most of the people who are siding with the LE are not photographers and have not found themselves insimiliar circumstances. The photog may could have handled the situation better by not starting the conversation on he defensive, but I understand why he did. I give him major props for videoing the encounter as there can now be no real misunderstanding what took place. As someone who is both a photographer and a one time security guard, I wish more people would stand up
jch9596 1 year ago
He should have asked 2 questions and a statement. Are you investigating a crime ? Am I a suspect in that crime? I will remain silent . now piss off.
the cop has no reasonable suspicion or probable cause to act after that. The only thing he can do is unlawfully arrest and lose his property.
thodal2000 1 year ago
There are too many self righteous people out there who feel they are above everybody else. When questioned they start crying constitutional rights but when something major happens like 9-11 then they start blaming and asking where all the security was. The cops job is to protect public interest, What he's gonna wait till the guy pulls out something or does something before he does anything???? Photog was disrespectful in not cooperating and trying to act like a smartass...
Peej1771 1 year ago
You maybe could have handled that situation a tad bit better, simply by stating that you are in fact not working with al qaeda, which should be a given, but that guy was an asshole. but still its good to see someone step up to some power obsessed cop..
brianthelionn 1 year ago
@brianthelionn
do you really think that would have appeased Gylfie? and do you really think that would have stopped the unlawful detainment and harassment? come on now. they were going to make an example of me no matter what
plus, anything is a terrorist target so does that mean we're all now be stopped for simply walking down the street because we're talking a cell phone, holding a camera, or carrying a backpack.
that's the road we're going down if we don't stopped this nonsense
discarted 1 year ago
This dumbass swears he is soo smart with his I'm not committing a crime the dude didn't have to stop at all until he asked am I being detained anytime before that he could of left but since he asked and got the deputy thinking he said yes, and if he is being detained he could be searched out and asked for an I.d. It's not a must he has one on his person though
Steelers2k09 1 year ago
couldnt find the whole footage @ yer site. whats the link under?
Kesava1975 1 year ago
i fucking hate smart asses like this. If he would of just been cooperative everything would of been a lot easier.
hemicudaboi 1 year ago
@hemicudaboi
I would have to say I hate dumbasses more.
discarted 1 year ago 3
@discarted: Yep....this guy was a asshole cop with a severely inflated ego. Being cooperative would have probably got you the same result, what was the photog supposed to say, "sorry ocifer, ill never take pictures in public again i promise"
Assert your rights or loose them.
nikosjk1 1 year ago
@discarted so you hate yourself?
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
I thought that fat ass, bald headed faggot Rick Gylfie was more of a smart ass. He's not even a real fuckin' cop, he's just a fuckin' secuirty guard in a subway station, and you wanna know why? He's too stupid to get a real job and knows that if he was a real cop out on the streets, he'd get the shit kicked out of punk ass on a daily basis. That fat, bald headed faggot Rick Gylfie needs to do everybody a favor and blow his brains out. He's a fuckin' joke.
AntiPoliceCorruption 1 year ago
@hemicudaboi The policeman was upfront and respectful with the photographer about his reasons for asking questions and invesitgating why he was taking pictures in such a sensitive area. I hadn't though about it before but it's damn true that a terrorist organization would love to have photographs of places like these. The photographer shoulod have conceded this by not acting like a douchebag and simply acknowledge the severity of what the officer was protecting against: terrorism.
GreenLeavesOnATree 1 year ago
@GreenLeavesOnATree In short, in the beginning I find no fault with the officer. He did exactly as he should. The photographer made an issue where there wasn't one and I'm a little embarrassed for him.
GreenLeavesOnATree 1 year ago
@hemicudaboi apparently you don't believe in the quiet enjoyment of rights.
thodal2000 1 year ago
That fat ass pig is making things up,stuttering and trying to act as if he knows. if you..are in..to sell.to them..What a dumb fuck and a idiot with a psychopomp syndrome. The POLICE is making an ILLEGAL stop NO,you do not have to give or show ID. It is against the consititution as this is not a papers only to walk,travel or go outside country.THIS IS NOT the Middle East and how offensive for a pig not to know the law and accuse someone of selling pics to terrorist. Go DIAF
kiastar67 1 year ago 4
another mindless goverment tool
monkeynuts76 1 year ago
The pig has a point, so dont be such a stupid little shit. An officer has every right to ask you for ID ANY TIME. Just hand over the ID and you could go about your way, I hate pigs as much as the next person, but you my friend are in ignorant douche bag.
js007311fan 1 year ago
@js007311fan
And everybody has the right to tell police that they can't see their ID when that person has not broken any laws. If you're not LAWFULLY detained you can walk away.
Seems like you're the ignorant one, my friend.
discarted 1 year ago 10
@discarted
Close... You do not have to show them any type of ID legally, but if asked, you are required to identify yourself by name only, nothing more. (Lying can bring later legit charges and give them reasonable suspicion) Although in this example he never asked for his name, only ID, he could have refused a search of his wallet as long as his ID was not visible from the outside of the wallet and did not give consent (even somewhat)for the police to enter it
Bravo19A 1 year ago
@Bravo19A
In CA you are required by law to provide your name (and nothing else) if you are DETAINED by police. If you are NOT DETAINED, you do not have to provide any info and can walk away. CA is not a stop and ID state. We do not have to carry ID here.
Either way though, you do not have to speak to police during any kind of encounter, except for providing your name if detained.
I never consented to having my pockets searched.
discarted 1 year ago
@discarted wrong, a Police officer takes you in their custody until they release you. It is state law to carry state issued ID wither Driver's license or standard ID. The officer addressed you, and because you are an ignorant jerkoff you aroused believable suspicion and you ultimately gave him the right to question you. Maybe if smart ass people like you didn't go looking for problems he wouldnt have to give BS reasons for common sense reasons it would be suspicious taking photos in metro subway
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1
Wrong.
In CA it is not the law to carry ID. And when detained, you only have to provide your real name to the officer. Nothing else. Again, in CA it is not the law to carry ID. Understand? And if you're not driving a car, you don't need to carry a driver's license in CA.
discarted 1 year ago
@discarted you are fucking totally wrong. It is a law to carry a Driver's License at any time operating a motor vehicle. Please post the link where your dreamland law exists. And it is a law to carry Photo ID outside your residence. You are an ignorant tool spouting laws that is wrong. you are a fucking tool jackass photographer bothering people and crying about nothing
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1
That's what I said. Read again. You need your driver's license only when you're operating a vehicle in CA. Other than, CA law does not require people to carry ID or hand over ID when detained by police. You will not be cited or arrested for not having ID on you in CA. You only need to provide your real name to police when detained in CA.
discarted 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1
Leaving my house now without my driver's license or ID, so you should call cops, since according to you it is against the law to not have ID on you in CA.
discarted 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1: "And it is a law to carry Photo ID outside your residence. "
I have never seen a law that requires me to 'carry photo ID outside of my residence". I don't think such a law exists.
I also think that if you respond to this comment, that you will not cite the law you say exists.
Pafoofnik1 1 year ago
@Pafoofnik1 "i have never seen a law that requires" that comment of yours alone shows why you would be unaware of the law. And yes it is true you have to carry ID. Such a law does exist. Go check it out for yourself. Educate yourself before you respond to someone on youtube by saying "I think" you really sound like a fucking moron
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1: Thank you for proving that you were lying.
There is no law that requires me to carry identification.
Pafoofnik1 1 year ago
@Pafoofnik1 My brother was a CHIP and knows his stuff and he is now a Lawyer so I think he knows. Just because I personally don't know how to direct you to read for yourself doesn't make me a liar. Look for yourself I am not your workhorse.
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1: Third comment and still can't come up with that proof, eh?
It's OK. You're doing a great job of proving to everyone that there is no law that requires me to carry ID.
Pafoofnik1 1 year ago
@ridesdeepsnow1
Still pounding your chest about this non-existing law that requires people to carry ID in CA. I have checked it out for myself. The law doesn't exist. And who cares that your bro was a CHIP and is now a lawyer. You do not need to be a cop or a lawyer to know laws. Most cops don't know the laws either, which is evident by this video. However, the laws they do know are all contempt of cop charges. Like obstruction, disorderly conduct, failure to obey an unlawful order, etc
discarted 1 year ago
@js007311fan
The "pigs" you hate so much, are of your own making and created by people like you that are so complacently, dropping to your knees and polishing their knob, so "you can be on your way" unmolested. Good old General P had a good name for people like you...."yellow-belly".
Bravo19A 1 year ago
This cop is the fatest dumbass on the planet. Like you cant fucking find these photo's on Google or something. This is such a joke.
sniffy45 1 year ago
terrorist wtf damn cops r dumb they think a camera isa gun
DJKID777 1 year ago
I'm just glad to see that an alert Deputy was doing his job even though his time was wasted by some immature kid. This photographer acted like a fool. The photographer said that he knew his rights, wrong little boy. The Deputy could detain you legally for up to 72 hours. The Deputy tried to explain this to you...no "debate" about it. If you are an advocate you're obviously an amateur. L.A.S.D. is a superb department.
snarch9269 1 year ago
@snarch9269: I've heard this "detain you legally for up to 72 hours" before. Trouble is, no one has ever actually been able to come up with the statute. I don't think a such a statute even exists.
You are most likely confusing 'detain' with 'arrest' and 'file formal charges'.
Pafoofnik1 1 year ago
cam guy stupid he got what he asked for !
jcsimmons911 1 year ago
Looks like the High School Diploma Squad strikes again. Most "peace" officers aren't qualified to manage a lemonade stand, much less "protect and serve." I hope Discarted takes legal action against Barney Fife.
Bluto2973 1 year ago
He had probable cause... i guess its legal. For example, in schools teachers can just search through your bag if they have probable cause uhave soemthing in there.
Kimchiman00 1 year ago
@Kimchiman00 He did NOT have probable cause that a crime had been or was going to be committed and therefore had no right to search. I'm guessing you're talking about high school students. Being minors, they lack some legal rights of adults, so teachers don't need "probable cause" to search on school grounds. (The same search done off school property without consent would be a crime.)
MarkReadPickens 1 year ago
Rick Gylfie is just a fat, dougnout eating, bald headed dumb ass cop. Get a real job fat ass.
AntiPoliceCorruption 1 year ago
THANK YOU GYLFIE! I commend that officer for doing a great job.
Don't fuck with national security!
You would be begging for an officer like that if your family were being attacked by terrorists or gangsters... my opinion of this video is the opposite of it's intentions.
it's a "look at this bad law enforcement officer: FAIL!". the law enforcement WINS!
dp535i 1 year ago
Fuck Deputy Gylfie. How is he doing a great job when he doesn't even know the laws. He just makes shit up as he goes long. Typical dumb ass cop. He needs to stick to what he knows best and that's eating doughnuts and beating his meat
AntiPoliceCorruption 1 year ago
@dp535i Attacked by terrorists or gangsters? If you're going to make up shit, why not zombies or werewolves? Don't you think real terrorists are smart enough to hide what they're doing? Don't you think they, unlike Officer Gylfie, know the difference between a real target and a phony one? This has nothing to do with "national security." This cop is a grown up version of Eric Cartman..."Respect my authoritay!"
MarkReadPickens 1 year ago
@MarkReadPickens - The officer is a tool for national security, whether he is intelligent or not. He's trained/programmed to be the way he is. I don't fault the police, because the people that run them got em on a short leash.
i'm not sure why you think i'm making up terrorist and gangsters as if they're folklore like werewolves.
Who do u think controls everything?
If they wanted a nice guy they could have just hired a door greeter who says "welcome to the bus station... i love u".
dp535i 1 year ago
@dp535i The officer in question is a “tool,” but irrelevant to national security. Unless police are robots, short leash or not, they make their own choices.
In this context, "Terrorists and gangsters" is code for nonexistent threats (such as zombies and werewolves). Subway photographers are no threat to national security. Gylfie deserves ridicule.
Who "controls everything?" Those frightened by bogus national-security threats who seek safety by giving up their (and my) rights.
MarkReadPickens 1 year ago
@MarkReadPickens - u don't have to push ur limits to prove that u have rights. i some people are just entertained by trying to out wit an officer just because they're law enforcement.
while at a glance this video may seem like this cop deserves ridicule, the first time i watched it i assumed the cop would be an arrogant pig. i listened to both of them & i see the whole scene.
a cop is on duty. a camera guy starts aiming the cam in suspicious places places in a sneaky manner cops look for....
dp535i 1 year ago
@dp535i - what was that camera guy trying to film then? he wasn't watching the camera. i think he was watching the cop and waiting for him to investigate his suspicious actions. then the camera guy smarts off and pretends to be mr law know it all...
this video looks like a pissing match for ego to me.
dp535i 1 year ago
@dp535i What limits did the photographer push? He has a right to take perfectly legal photographs in a public place. How could anyone not deserving ridicule think this threatens national security? "Suspicious places?" "...in a sneaky manner cops look for...?" How was it sneaky? Unlike real "terrorists and gangsters," he was doing it right out in the open! That's how this bully with a badge noticed him.
There's a greater threat from zombies and werewolves than subway photographers.
MarkReadPickens 1 year ago
@dp535i LOL... do you have any idea when officers can perform Terry stops? I hope discarted takes legal action against this fat fuck.
Bluto2973 1 year ago
@Bluto2973 - yes, i do have an idea when they can question someone. even the officer does. he even explains it to the idiot camera man who clearly did something that wasn't shown on video which made him look suspicious to the officer. people need to get a life and stop trying to harass good cops. there are plenty of idiot cops and bad cops out there to worry about. this cop was cool. nobody got hurt, nobody got arrested. but the cop definitely did a good job in my book.
dp535i 1 year ago
@dp535i For an officer to perform a Terry stop, he must have a reasonable, articulable suspicion that a crime has been committed, is being committed, or is about to be committed. Photography in public does not constitute reasonable suspicion. Might as well detain and interogate any tourist and/or journalist while he's at it. Futhermore, his lies and threats are enough to discredit this piece of trash. Police don't "protect and serve"; they "harass and intimidate."
Bluto2973 1 year ago
@dp535i If there was an actual threat, why was no one arrested? How does wasting attention on nonexistent threats constitute being a "good cop?" Who was harassing him? Is it harassment to mind your own business, as the photographer was doing?
I agree there are plenty of "idiot cops and bad cops out there." Officer Gylfie is one of them.
MarkReadPickens 1 year ago
@MarkReadPickens - let me ask you this. what exactly was the photographer filming? we both watched this video but it doesn't look like the photographer is focusing on anything in particular other than maybe the infrastructure.
before the cop approached him, what is he filming? and why?
is he just a young amateur photographer, or was he acting suspicious to make the cop question him? just looks to me like the photographer is copying that other guy from NY who does almost the same thing.
dp535i 1 year ago
@dp535i We don't know what he WAS photographing, but we do know what he was NOT photographing: anything that threatened national security. Who fears terrorists so incompetent they can't take photographs surreptitiously?
Here's a better question: Can anyone name a single thing he could have been photographing that would be of any conceivable value to a terrorist? (In the real world, please. Not in officer Gylfie's childish imagination.)
*chirp* *chirp*
That's what I thought.
MarkReadPickens 1 year ago
@MarkReadPickens - in this video, i can see the location of ceiling surveillance cameras, the walls are approx 8" thick, and there is tile on the floors and walls, the security scanners are approx 4 1/2" tall, one security guard.
again, this is just by looking at the video. i'm sure the photographs would look more clear and specific to what was actually being shot.
i think it's ok for an officer to be trained to fear the worst.
both parties in this video are intentionally messing with eachother
dp535i 1 year ago
@dp535i I appreciate your attention to detail, but what does any of this have to do with a real-world threat? Part of police training is identifying actual, not fantasy, threats.
Can anyone explain why terrorists can't take pictures without anyone noticing? Who but a Barney Fife would focus on someone taking pictures of nothing that mattered right out in the open? Officer Gylfie is a bully with a badge.
MarkReadPickens 1 year ago
@MarkReadPickens - agreed. Gylfie is a bully with a badge. but the camera man is a mosquito.
i'm not a cop, but i have a little more respect for them than that guy.
dp535i 1 year ago
Deputy "Goofy", whoops, I mean Deputy Gylfie is a fat, bald headed, idiotic old man that doesn't know shit about the law or current events. In the video Deputy "Goofy" says that he's "not stupid", but if that were true then why is it that based on his educational level the best job he could get was patrolling a subway station? He's just insecure about his male pattern baldness and hates the fact that even though he thinks he's a cop, all he really is, is a 50 year old, low level security guard.
AntiPoliceCorruption 1 year ago
Keep up the good work, dude! I hope word of your work gets out to all the various agencies and they think twice about harassing photographers. You are the man!
imagesfromLA 1 year ago
Thanks very much for posting this. WOW! Government has gone full on insane..and these cop monkeys gleefully play along.
MrClitmann 1 year ago
ahhh, it wasn't even a good subject to shoot. All this trouble with video taping yourself, editing it, and posting it, almost seems like you were asking for it. You could have shot 2 whole rolls of film in the time they detained you. Your hobby seems to be confrontation rather than photography.
Nydaddy72 1 year ago
@Nydaddy72 no doubt, trying to get famous by stirring up trouble.
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
Abuse of authority by cops
craigman77 1 year ago
let it go man. the photographer was wrong by not complying with the officer, trying to act as if he knew the law. if he wasn't doing anything wrong, he should have just complyed. he was wrong adnd you are wrong by defending a person who was acting wrong, grow up and let it go.
oscarjeda 1 year ago
Fuck that dumbfucking cop dude. He's a goddamn communist in my eyes.
MadeToBeGray 1 year ago
Photographer is just looking for trouble. Listen to his answers and his tone. Cop may be out of line, but the photographer is a dick nonetheless.
MrStantonP 1 year ago
If a cop tells you to stop, ask him if any crime has been committed nearby. If a crime has been committed in the vicinity, then he can legally question you, because of proximity to the crime. However if no crime has occurred, ask the cop if he intends to cite you. If not, ignore him and go about your legal business, secretly hoping that he arrests you. You may then sue him until he is naked. Under no circumstances tell a cop anything except "It's not my policy to talk to the police."
williemccoy1 1 year ago
selling pictures to al-qaeda lol
DisCamboNigga 1 year ago
MAN, and people wonder why it's hard to trust the police.
jeremywomackdotcom 1 year ago
you are an idiot, the cop wasnt doing anything wrong, you are just an ass, go get a life
Hulkamania246 1 year ago
Selling pictures to Al Qaeda..?.. Nice
Drapehs 1 year ago
LOL at selling pics
loool
STARKASTT 1 year ago
Dude, get a life and seek some professional help. Sooner or later, you're going to really get your "rights" violated and then maybe you'll learn to stop messing with the police and allow them to do their jobs without having some snotty little shit like yourself messing with them. Get a real job dude!
Mr70sKid 1 year ago
@Mr70sKid well said, I believe in your constitutional rights, but when you go out looking for trouble and messing with others, it is almost guaranteed others are gonna get angry when you are out to mess with them.
ridesdeepsnow1 1 year ago
Police will never get off their high horses... i'd love to meet just one officer who isnt on an extreme ego trip.
AmAyznAzn 1 year ago
You are doing a great thing!!!! Keep up the good work! This cop doesn't get that detaining you because you're taking photos is ILLEGAL! Cops just get their panties in a bunch because you question them and they are used to being blindly obeyed!
samala5793 1 year ago
You go Discarted... !!!! youre just trying to prove a point in popo harrasment,,,, i fucking hate when they do shit like that and are backed up by "THE LAW"....keep up the work dude....it happens evrywhere specially to mexicans..youre lucky they dont fuck you up for no reason. happnd to me twice..once for asking why i was stopped and the second time for refusing to identify myself...they had no right to stop me either....well fuck it...keep it up
GxnonixG 1 year ago
You go Discarted... !!!! youre just trying to prove a point in popo harrasment,,,, i fucking hate when they do shit like that and are backed up by "THE LAW"....keep up the work dude....it happens evrywhere specially to mexicans..youre lucky they dont fuck you up for no reason. happnd to me twice..once for asking why i was stopped and the second time for refusing to identify myself...they had no right to stop me either....well fuck it...keep it up
GxnonixG 1 year ago
You go Discarted... !!!! youre just trying to prove a point in popo harrasment,,,, i fucking hate when they do shit like that and are backed up by "THE LAW"....keep up the work dude....it happens evrywhere specially to mexicans..youre lucky they dont fuck you up for no reason. happnd to me twice..once for asking why i was stopped and the second time for refusing to identify myself...they had no right to stop me either....well fuck it...keep it up
GxnonixG 1 year ago
omg sheriff is a dumb monkey - al-quida wants to buy your pictures LMAO
pomeranets 1 year ago
The photographer has the right to take photos because the station is a public building HOWEVER, the deputy DID have the legal right to detain him to make sure that he was not committing a crime by taking photos of the infrastructure of the station to be used for illegal purposes. The deputy found that he was not committing a crime and let him go. THE PHOTOGRAPHER WAS ASKING FOR TROUBLE. WHY DO YOU THINK HE ALREADY HAD A VIDEO CAMERA ROLLING? HE IS AN IDIOT WHO WANTS TO INTERFERE WITH COPS.
MrBosox2010 1 year ago
@MrBosox2010 then the police can detain anybody to make sure they are not committing crimes..sounds like pre crime or thought crime to me..it is unlawful, but the police have really strayed on what their powers are. so if im out walking i could theoretically be stopped ten times to make sure im behaving legally. unconstitutional and against common sense. pictures are up everywhere of the subway.if he was not in the act of doing something illegal then he shouldnt have harrassed him..
youandmeandocsupra 1 year ago
@MrBosox2010 If the cop knew the laws he's supposed to be enforcing he wouldn't be 'interfered' with in the first place because he'd realize what the guy is doing is perfectly legal. Yes, he let him go, but I'm deeply worried with how the officer threatens him with all sorts of punishment based on the fact he doesn't like his attitude. It's probably more likely I'll be abused by an ignorant and irresponsible police officer than bombed by terrorists.
csquirrel 1 year ago
@MrBosox2010 If the cop knew the laws he's supposed to be enforcing he wouldn't be 'interfered' with in the first place because he'd realize what the guy is doing is perfectly legal. Yes, he let him go, but I'm deeply worried with how the officer threatens him with all sorts of punishment based on the fact he doesn't like his attitude. It's probably more likely I'll be abused by an ignorant and irresponsible police officer than bombed by terrorists.
csquirrel 1 year ago
@MrBosox2010 If the cop knew the laws he's supposed to be enforcing he wouldn't be 'interfered' with in the first place because he'd realize what the guy is doing is perfectly legal. Yes, he let him go, but I'm deeply worried with how the officer threatens him with all sorts of punishment based on the fact he doesn't like his attitude. It's probably more likely I'll be abused by an ignorant and irresponsible police officer than bombed by terrorists.
csquirrel 1 year ago
@MrBosox2010 If the cop knew the laws he's supposed to be enforcing he wouldn't be 'interfered' with in the first place because he'd realize what the guy is doing is perfectly legal. Yes, he let him go, but I'm deeply worried with how the officer threatens him with all sorts of punishment based on the fact he doesn't like his attitude. It's probably more likely I'll be abused by an ignorant and irresponsible police officer than bombed by terrorists.
csquirrel 1 year ago
@MrBosox2010 If the cop knew the laws he's supposed to be enforcing he wouldn't be 'interfered' with in the first place because he'd realize what the guy is doing is perfectly legal. Yes, he let him go, but I'm deeply worried with how the officer threatens him with all sorts of punishment based on the fact he doesn't like his attitude. It's probably more likely I'll be abused by an ignorant and irresponsible police officer than bombed by terrorists.
csquirrel 1 year ago
@MrBosox2010
How did the deputy find out I was not committing a crime? All he did was run me to see if I had any warrants that he could arrest me on. He was never able to determine (and still hasn't), why I was taking pictures.
My video camera is always rolling when I take pictures in public because situations like this occur all the time.
And the cop approached me and interfered with me. I didn't go up to them.
discarted 1 year ago
@Neville6000 HAHA, look at all of these comments you posted... like 10 comments within 25 minutes holy shit what a loser. Poor 42 year-old low-life is mad at the world he lives in because nobody likes him. He was probably beat in high school, he's not even fucking American and he spends time to comment on American issues... Shows how much of a bitch he is to our American culture. Plus we all know he doesn't get laid. sad. Canada doesn't want you, and neither does America. Try Mexico scumbag.
viruslived 1 year ago
Wow. What a mentality these cops have. If I was a terrorist and wanted to blow up some place, do you think I would use a regular camera to take photos. No. I would use a small hidden camera and a small recorder to make any details of the surrounding area. That's what I would do. So any terrorist would do the same thing. Normal people don't think like that therefore they just want to take a legal picture of the damn place for memory. This cop is out line and was probably scarring that guy.
PhotonicDoctor 1 year ago
"I don't know that you're committing a crime or not"
"You're being detained until I determine if you have not committed a crime"
"Selling pictures to Al Aqueda"
This man is allowed to wear a peace officer's badge?
jojosjaboo 1 year ago
Pt2. entitles you to such a right. There are usually designated areas for such things. Oh. Wait! There is an public elementary school a few blocks away with a library. Hmm... It's a public school so, therefore , I can probably walk inside take photographs and use the computers. WRONG!! It's really private property like the MTA station. It's all private business that caters to certain individuals. I'm all for photographers rights as well, but do get my point?
1717now 1 year ago
@1717now
these are terrible analogies.
research the Metro photography policy, photography in public space, and funding of the Metro and come back with something better
"B) Even if you are a student, you cannot just protest at any open area because you think the word "public"'"
did you even go to college? if you did, you would know that this statement is inaccurate
i would suggest you google the protests that occurred in recent months at CA's public colleges/universities
discarted 1 year ago
@discarted
Yes,i did go to college. And yes, there are designated areas for the students to hand out flayers , protest , ect... As for the CA public colleges and universities protests that occurred, if the administrators wanted to close down the school because of the protest, they could have done it. It's only "public" in the sense that anyone can can apply or registered for classes, but it's private property just like the metro. It's not public in the sense you make it out to be.
1717now 1 year ago
@1717now
i just wonder why i wasn't charged with trespassing on Metro's private property
it's public space. just accept it.
when i was in college, students protested where ever they wanted and they also handed out flyers where they wanted
glad i didn't go to your college with the "alleged" designated areas
like i said before, come back with some better
discarted 1 year ago
@1717now: Please stop coming on discarted's board talking and spewing bullshit; you have NO idea what you're talking about, and secondly, you're just being a big right-wing law and order douchebag who believes EVERYTHING the Bush admin/Faux Noise tells him.
Neville6000 1 year ago
PT 1. Let the Deputy do his job. BTW most of the time "Public" does not truly mean it's "Public" All property is really private property. Ever been to a community college or university? Sure, It's a public institution. But you can't just walk in and protest your cause where ever you like because you think it's "public". A) if your not a student, you can be arrested for trespassing. B) Even if you are a student, you cannot just protest at any open area because you think the word "public"
1717now 1 year ago
@1717now: Are you still spewing right-wing bullshit like a big, brainwashed baby? Or can you think for yourself without letting the law and cops doing it for you?
Neville6000 1 year ago
man this guy was lucky he didnt have a joint in his pocket... all photograzifers visualize with the weed man...
jk
240SSONLY 1 year ago
If the cop doesn't do anything and something does happen than everybody wants to blame the police and ask where they were. The cop was doing his job in my opinion and had every right to detain and question you until he was confident enough to let you go. Better safe than sorry in my opinion.
moneyman237952 1 year ago
@moneyman237952
based on this reasoning then everyone driving a vehicle, carrying a backpack, or talking on a cell phone in public should be stopped and detained for 25 minutes and accused of being "in cahoots with al qaeda" since all of those things have been used in terrorist attacks.
is that what you want? do you want to be detained for talking on your cell phone in public space?
more important, was the cop doing his job when he threatened to put me on the "FBI's hit list"?
discarted 1 year ago
@discarted Talking on your cell phone in a public space is not suspicious but, taking pictures of a subway is. You probably would not have been held up that long had you just complied and answered the officers questions and stopped being a smart ass.