nice video I found it very helpful an FYI the muscle on the front of the leg is called tibialis and the one one the back is your calf muscle. thanks for the video.
im a fairly new drummer, been playing for about a year. I use dw3000 double pedal, and ive tried using the heel-toe technique. It doesnt seem to produce as good and as much results as the heel-up. I personally dont use triggers, ive tried them, but i dont like them, if i wanna play 280 bpm, why wouldnt i really wanna be able to play it clearly? And dont badger me bout how triggers can help in the studio and live, i agree with the live part, but y the studio, u have time there, learn the parts.
also you need to mute the bass drum by stuffing it or else it's going to have a ton of resonance. Try EQing the bass drum and you lose a ton of the Oomph of your bass drum by cutting out the frequencies that create that resonance. It's time consuming to get a drum sound that you can utilize especially a bass drum sound. All triggers do is transfer a pulse to a module. They don't enhance or change the way you play. It's not meant to badger btw
Btw trust me I was having the same issues with learning to play fast on a guitar and to my conclusion I figured I was practicing wrong. Drums is really subjective in terms of playing because of different techniques. Also how far are the beaters from the head? What's your spring tension? Have you adjusted the chain? If you're fairly new you need to practice everything below 280 bpm before you actually get to 280 bpm. Just my 2 cents.
Do u guys think its easier to play fast double bass or just double bass in general with shoes, socks, or bare foot?? I asking everybody for there opinion???
@ThisIsNotSharyn Yes, they do, it's more your thighs that get fatigued, but you get used to it eventually. Just practice every day or every day that you can, and you'll be able to do fast speeds with no fatigue at ALL b4 u know it. :)
hey man, great vid :) i have been trying to play terrotorial pissings by nirvana , i know its easy enough, but the speed and power of it is what gets me. sometimes i can play it fine, other times my leg kinda seizes up n i feel a burn, any advice?
@MrNihiluss George Kollias uses this technique and he can play 280 bpm 16ths. The other really fast people who use this technique are at around 250-260. It takes a lot of practice to get up there. It's kind of like weight lifting in a way.
@MrNihiluss heel up should be for accents...heel down, developed over time, peocudes a far better sound from your bass drum and requires less muscles/effort to execute. heel up, your muscles from your ankle to your hip are engaged the whole time. eventually your going to hurt yourself playing that way. but i guess its easier to play with triggers, and heel up. rather than put in the time to develop muscle memory and technique.
@rwoods2k Heel down utilizes very few of the potential muscles and also momentum that you can draw power from. Using a kick drum pedal is all about transferring energy to the drum and heel down really falls short at that. Heel down is the least complex technique, it's just setting a foot down and skipping learning how to transfer the most energy as efficiently as possible. Heel up takes more effort to develop because of all the dynamics involved, but it's accurate and powerful.
@andy15m374l you said it best, Heel up takes more effort. you can get plenty of power from the beater coming back to the same position everytime thru heel down(SteveSmith), it has to be developed. your argument is similar to drummers who say that traditional technique(hand) doesnt have enough power, that BS. Un-developed traditional technique doesnt produce enough power. Heel down also produces a better sound because with heel down, the beater wont choke the head (producing a bad sound)
andy15m3741 thanks a lot :) this was really good, i see that you are playing bare-footed, why are you doing this ? (genuinely curious) is it easier cos i play with shoes that have like a 1inch thick sole and i think its easier for some reason, please reply :)) thanks for the vid , really good teacher :)
@oscarlolage Thanks. I used to play barefoot just because I felt like I had more control over the pedal. I was more aware of where the footboard was going and my exact foot position. I later moved to some tight fitting converse shoes and liked that even more because the slight amount of support and still having the feel for the pedal. The best thing to do is whatever feels the best to you. As long as your ankle can bend good and the shoes have a good fit drumming in shoes can be great.
@oscarlolage it much better to play with out shoes on you get more speed and auccuracy cuz ive always used my bass pedal the same way he is showing in the video and its a really good tecnique i would always suggest playing barefoot or with socks on shoes add too much weight
Helpful video that answered some questions for me. I'm a guitar player who bought an electric drum set to mess around with. While I never attacked playing drums seriously it never meant I didn't have serious questions about how to work my foot pedals. I realize lessons should be in order, but I'd rather spend the money on guitar gear.
this is the best lessen i ever saw..dud you're doing a good job in teaching...but i think i'll start all over with the slow bit...to learn the technique with the heel up...thanks bro!
@Pezzi69 I turn the springs all the way up on Iron Cobras Pearls and other pedals. On Axis Pedals with the heavy duty springs I put them about 3/4 as tight as they will go.
Hey, I'm "relatively" new to drumming and I have never really had a proper bass pedal technique shown to me. I see in this video you sue a technique similar to the one that I have "naturally used".
But my question is, do you "float" your foot(meaning that the heel is never in contact with the ground and the only thign touching the pedal are the balls of your feet), or do you only use the balls but rest your heel on the pedal(full depressing it) and keeping it there after the drum?
any drummer thats been playin for a few months knows this tech i picked it up like 3 months into playin i guess u got to be a fast learner then right??
Depending on how heavy your legs are there is a heal down technique that is both fast, even, and powerful. It involves using your thigh muscle instead of your calf. You have to have shoes on because the motion is pushing your foot forward but not letting it move, this translates into a snapping motion. Imagine trying to kick forward without moving your heel and you get the idea. I switch to this kind of kick when I need speed and endurance for a fast piece.
to get better, put ear plugs in and turn the spring tension all the way down and every two weeks, go on the drum set after practicing, without ear plugs in, and spring tension on max, you'll be faster than you think, what it does is build up your leg muscles more so you can still play clean, fast, and loud. take my word, i've been doing this only for about two weeks myself and i can play as fast as 200 bpm on pearl eliminaters on the lowest spring tension there is, try this!
a very good video. i have a question. I can play slow with power strokes, but when i get faster, I just can't stop my leg moving so I have to stop it, cause I can't play with the whole leg. How can I make my ancle and foot move? Thx you and sorry for my english, I'm russian :)
hey awesome video, i have a question, i have no problem when i do it with my right foot, but with my left its like after a few seconds it gets stuck, so, what kind of exercises should i do or any advice to get better???
@necronomus Slow way down and hit the kicks really hard. Play so slow that it almost doesn't sound like double bass, but not quite. Playing at that speed will build your technique and power faster.
@glitchhacker101 That's where I put them. I took the snare out from between them so I could get a view of the pedal and drum. You may also notice that I only used my left foot in this video because it was the easiest to shoot with my right hand haha.
@glitchhacker101 I didn't watch the video before answering. It may be set up different in that respect for this video. I do point both pedals towards me.
Hi. I can do this with both feet individually no problem. But what I really want to know is how much do you lean forward/how much weight are you resting on your feet? Cos i'm finding balance the hardest thing and it doesn't seem to be getting better. Cheers.
@battlemetal666 I don't put any weight on my feet while playing double bass. The bodyweight is on the buttocks and all four limbs are off doing their job with no concern for gravity. Balance comes when your movements get more efficient and precise.
@iwilleatyou7678 I either forget to include some details, or there are some details that I would like to include, but aren't important enough to make the video longer. It's sort of like white out for me I guess.
@whitexgreen No weight ever goes on the heels. It's all a balancing act on the throne, one that I never actually think about. Sometimes when there is no double bass I will put a foot on the floor or hi hat pedal and put weight on it though.
I put the tension of my pedals really loose and the tune my drum really tight to get a good rebound, like what Spikydrummer does is that something you would suggest?
@sovereignsjust No I would suggest the exact opposite. If you haven't already, watch my video about kick tuning and see of you like that sound. That is with the head all the way loose. Depending on rebound is not a good idea. That is why there are springs on the pedal, you can get the exact action you want consistently in a uniform manner that brings the board to a predetermined position.
@andy15m374l the only downside i have had with two basses is sound, when you have to tune its a bitch to get them to sound the same, but i use both methods, double bass and double pedal, i have three kits one with single pedal, one with double pedal, and the 3rd with double bass, love all three but its all what makes you comfortable, dont just get things because other people do, do what is best for you
@andy15m374l actually with the pearl eliminator demon drive, there is no difference between the left pedal and the right pedal. thats why the demon drive is better than the axis pedal. i have both, i know.
@godjesusmoses No with 2 bass drums you can play faster with the bass drums then a double pedal becuase when your hitting one surface it has to rebound two times more, and theres a limit to how much one bass drum can rebound before you have to tighten it up, but then it dosent sound like a bass drum.
@godjesusmoses and also if you mic the drums for rec etc. there is more airflow. when you use just one your not getting the full sound and air travel.
@godjesusmoses Maybe he likes two bass drums. Have you never seen a drum kit with 2 bass drums? Someone could ask what is the point of two floor toms? or two cybals? or two upper toms? or two of anything. Drum kits are never the same. obviously.
@adlerdiaz96 i think he meant, whats the point of having two seperate bass drums each with their own pedal, as compared to one bass drum with a double pedal
another note to make is that your feet should NEVER LEAVE THE PEDAL. You lift your foot and the pedal comes with it (that's what the spring is for, to make sure the beater and pedal "return")
im having trouble playing "fast" like i start playing and i can get to a pretty good speed but when i try to get faster like for example near the begging of beast and the harlot where the rev is goin pretty fast my legs are moving but my feet are kind of just sliding or like staying still so like its like im not even really using the bass drum at that sppeed.. it sounds like shit when i do that and my legs get cramped as hell advice?
becouse its just to boring. so make it not so boring for urself. just make sure u can do it clean and solid in the first place like this great guy explains and then pick up the tempo as u progress
do a blast beat for 5 mins straight 5 times a day. while listening to black eyed peas and after 2 weeks youll be posting vids showing ppl how to do it lol
once youve learnt the basics of that beat and can play it solid slow and clean. put on ur ipod and just play that beat solid for 5 mins. 1. its not so boring and robotic when u are listening to music. 2. discipline discipline discipline! ur playing it for 5 mins straight so ur guna get good and fast ( as long as u can do it solid and slow to begin with) i have never met nor seen anyone that will just sit there and play sumthing for so long
When I go over 170, I almost only use my ankles and calfs, should I push my leg to get faster or is it fine to start using calfs and ankles at that speed?
@purplehalfstack I always keep my foot with the pedal. That has to be done to keep the pedal under your control rather than have it swinging violently while you're trying to play.
um, is it normal for my hip(right hip) muscle to hurt after playing double bass for a while, cuz ive always had problems with it when drumming, and ive been playing with my ankles alot more lately and my right hip muscle still hurts. it seems like almost every time i play for more than 20 minutes my hip hurts. even if i havnt played drums for like two weeks, it will still hurt when i start playing again. can anyone help me out?
hey man just read your comment and STOP! lol thats a bad way to play because my drum tutor had a hip problem, thats the wrong way to do it and plus our legs are big,heavy and slow compared to our ankles lol so my tutor said to me play heel down for a year to build shin strengh then he will teach me heel up which is for fast and powerfull speeds but always practice with a metronome if u want any more help message me :)
yea, i think you told me that the last time we talked. ive been playing heels down for the last two weeks and have been practicing heel down off of my kit for like two years(which is basically me just tapping my feet on the floor at school, home, etc.) I also have been playing heels up with alot more ankle movement and ive been warming up for about 5 minutes or so before i play drums. The pain is always in the right hip and my hip muscle will sometimes hurt even if im not double bassing.
Hey I play double bass with heels up technique, but when I play single bass I play flat foot, and sometimes heel toe(very rarely) would this be a problem, because its what I feel comfortable with, but I dont no if its the right way to play
I figured this out myself, i feel smart
reddragon9918 1 month ago
great demo mate, thanks,
nigelregan 1 month ago
iron cobra beaters? :)
SuperAli1996 1 month ago
@SuperAli1996 yes,
andy15m374l 1 month ago
This is bad advice, heel up is correct but use mostly calf and set your beaters back.
TheSackdragger 2 months ago
i wish u would wear socks in ur vid man i hate feet there horrible ..not saying ur feet are just erghh not a fan of them :s
xLooNeyHD 3 months ago
I'm not trying to be a troll or anything but your bass drum sounds like crap... that's why you use triggers ;)
heckawesomefunnydude 3 months ago
@heckawesomefunnydude Well I was using the built in mic on the camera on this video so you can't even tell how it sounds from this.
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@andy15m374l alrighty whatever you say dude
heckawesomefunnydude 3 months ago
@heckawesomefunnydude Let's hear your kick drum?
ramonbunny69 1 month ago
nice video I found it very helpful an FYI the muscle on the front of the leg is called tibialis and the one one the back is your calf muscle. thanks for the video.
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That's awesome and inspiring man! How long have you been practising to reach this? Cheers :)
erikiniel21 4 months ago
how thight you have the spring that pulls back the pedal when you lift your foot.
Lippa100 4 months ago
Random kinda sorta irrelevant comment: Axis pedals are smexy ^_^
guitarmaster779 6 months ago
''..sound alot better than really fast... crap.''
SuperMefisto6666 7 months ago
you are wearing THE HULK shorts
schnarfel 7 months ago
Axis? Pffff...
DJYuYu2xD 7 months ago
im a fairly new drummer, been playing for about a year. I use dw3000 double pedal, and ive tried using the heel-toe technique. It doesnt seem to produce as good and as much results as the heel-up. I personally dont use triggers, ive tried them, but i dont like them, if i wanna play 280 bpm, why wouldnt i really wanna be able to play it clearly? And dont badger me bout how triggers can help in the studio and live, i agree with the live part, but y the studio, u have time there, learn the parts.
MrVengeance1984 7 months ago
@MrVengeance1984 time = money especially in a studio.
also you need to mute the bass drum by stuffing it or else it's going to have a ton of resonance. Try EQing the bass drum and you lose a ton of the Oomph of your bass drum by cutting out the frequencies that create that resonance. It's time consuming to get a drum sound that you can utilize especially a bass drum sound. All triggers do is transfer a pulse to a module. They don't enhance or change the way you play. It's not meant to badger btw
EtheralDismay91 7 months ago
Btw trust me I was having the same issues with learning to play fast on a guitar and to my conclusion I figured I was practicing wrong. Drums is really subjective in terms of playing because of different techniques. Also how far are the beaters from the head? What's your spring tension? Have you adjusted the chain? If you're fairly new you need to practice everything below 280 bpm before you actually get to 280 bpm. Just my 2 cents.
EtheralDismay91 7 months ago
Can someone explain me why people is trying to teach drum on youtube before learning drums???????????????????
pascalpg 7 months ago
@fhhuckyou Wtf?
Nickdiaublow 7 months ago
Stop talking and do the shit , GOD !!
sheboto14 8 months ago
Do u guys think its easier to play fast double bass or just double bass in general with shoes, socks, or bare foot?? I asking everybody for there opinion???
DrumMetal123 8 months ago
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09basscat 8 months ago
Do your legs or ankles get fatigued at all and just give out?
ThisIsNotSharyn 9 months ago
@ThisIsNotSharyn Yes, they do, it's more your thighs that get fatigued, but you get used to it eventually. Just practice every day or every day that you can, and you'll be able to do fast speeds with no fatigue at ALL b4 u know it. :)
ACompetitiveHalo 4 months ago
wrong muscle lol!!
nefeltari99 9 months ago
"dont play faster then u can play"...got it. \m/-_-\m/
ilikeamp 9 months ago 14
D= Double bass is so hard, I just begun it, but if it wasn't for my band, I'd already stopped by now. So hard to begin with learning it.
=/ Glad the result sounds awesome.
ThelcecreamMan 9 months ago
bro, I don't want to see your feet! -_-
15Shenlong 10 months ago
wat if u have big feet -_-
Chase911007 10 months ago
dude u have them $600 bass pedals xD LUCKY!
DudeManGuy1011 10 months ago
Nice vid, thanks!
Question: with this thechnic, do you keep beater on a head after the stroke, or just let it rebound and bounce???
unwisedrummer 11 months ago
d00d, you're good
teragreg 11 months ago
hey man, great vid :) i have been trying to play terrotorial pissings by nirvana , i know its easy enough, but the speed and power of it is what gets me. sometimes i can play it fine, other times my leg kinda seizes up n i feel a burn, any advice?
pharcydebug 11 months ago
how fast can you go using this technique because i feel like i can't get passed 190 using this technique amd i doin it worng? please reply
MrNihiluss 11 months ago
@MrNihiluss George Kollias uses this technique and he can play 280 bpm 16ths. The other really fast people who use this technique are at around 250-260. It takes a lot of practice to get up there. It's kind of like weight lifting in a way.
andy15m374l 11 months ago
@MrNihiluss heel up should be for accents...heel down, developed over time, peocudes a far better sound from your bass drum and requires less muscles/effort to execute. heel up, your muscles from your ankle to your hip are engaged the whole time. eventually your going to hurt yourself playing that way. but i guess its easier to play with triggers, and heel up. rather than put in the time to develop muscle memory and technique.
rwoods2k 9 months ago
@rwoods2k Heel down utilizes very few of the potential muscles and also momentum that you can draw power from. Using a kick drum pedal is all about transferring energy to the drum and heel down really falls short at that. Heel down is the least complex technique, it's just setting a foot down and skipping learning how to transfer the most energy as efficiently as possible. Heel up takes more effort to develop because of all the dynamics involved, but it's accurate and powerful.
andy15m374l 9 months ago
@andy15m374l you said it best, Heel up takes more effort. you can get plenty of power from the beater coming back to the same position everytime thru heel down(SteveSmith), it has to be developed. your argument is similar to drummers who say that traditional technique(hand) doesnt have enough power, that BS. Un-developed traditional technique doesnt produce enough power. Heel down also produces a better sound because with heel down, the beater wont choke the head (producing a bad sound)
rwoods2k 9 months ago
@MrNihiluss watch?v=Wqj3p8rF4ew
rwoods2k 9 months ago
i can go faster with heel toe
you almost get as much power, but you can go faster
DELTAFORCEADC 11 months ago
@DELTAFORCEADC Heel toe is great, but to get anywhere with it you're going to have to fork out a ton of money for longoard pedals
discohunter12 11 months ago
andy15m3741 thanks a lot :) this was really good, i see that you are playing bare-footed, why are you doing this ? (genuinely curious) is it easier cos i play with shoes that have like a 1inch thick sole and i think its easier for some reason, please reply :)) thanks for the vid , really good teacher :)
oscarlolage 1 year ago
@oscarlolage Thanks. I used to play barefoot just because I felt like I had more control over the pedal. I was more aware of where the footboard was going and my exact foot position. I later moved to some tight fitting converse shoes and liked that even more because the slight amount of support and still having the feel for the pedal. The best thing to do is whatever feels the best to you. As long as your ankle can bend good and the shoes have a good fit drumming in shoes can be great.
andy15m374l 1 year ago
@oscarlolage it much better to play with out shoes on you get more speed and auccuracy cuz ive always used my bass pedal the same way he is showing in the video and its a really good tecnique i would always suggest playing barefoot or with socks on shoes add too much weight
DROIDJR 11 months ago
@DROIDJR thanks mate , sounds good :) ive been trying it recently and is ALOT better barefooted:) !
oscarlolage 11 months ago
@DROIDJR not for dave lombardo lol ive seen him play with fuckin boots on. that dude is a monster
blackshadow811 10 months ago
thats good technique man. I find myself doing the same thing. it just makes sense. good advice man. godbless
Daluzmmania89 1 year ago
my DWs are pretty sic but anoying as hell when i have to move em for a gig LOL
lavaonfire 1 year ago
Helpful video that answered some questions for me. I'm a guitar player who bought an electric drum set to mess around with. While I never attacked playing drums seriously it never meant I didn't have serious questions about how to work my foot pedals. I realize lessons should be in order, but I'd rather spend the money on guitar gear.
beagle379 1 year ago
Axis pedals! This makes me wanna beat the fuck out of a midget.
TheDustyspears 1 year ago
man your technique is AMAZING
BreaktheDrought 1 year ago
this is correct. THOUGH It is NOT bad technique to have your heel down. Its a different style which I use sometimes.
drummerkidmashy 1 year ago
this is the best lessen i ever saw..dud you're doing a good job in teaching...but i think i'll start all over with the slow bit...to learn the technique with the heel up...thanks bro!
xBickox 1 year ago
how tight are your springs?
Pezzi69 1 year ago
@Pezzi69 I turn the springs all the way up on Iron Cobras Pearls and other pedals. On Axis Pedals with the heavy duty springs I put them about 3/4 as tight as they will go.
andy15m374l 1 year ago
@andy15m374l
Hey, I'm "relatively" new to drumming and I have never really had a proper bass pedal technique shown to me. I see in this video you sue a technique similar to the one that I have "naturally used".
But my question is, do you "float" your foot(meaning that the heel is never in contact with the ground and the only thign touching the pedal are the balls of your feet), or do you only use the balls but rest your heel on the pedal(full depressing it) and keeping it there after the drum?
vbdude006 10 months ago
Thanks man.
chaoticfirearm 1 year ago
this was a good info video, but brian hood, drummer for mychildren mybride, helped me with a technique that works amazing. check him out
pavillanuiw 1 year ago
any drummer thats been playin for a few months knows this tech i picked it up like 3 months into playin i guess u got to be a fast learner then right??
raylovesrock182 1 year ago
Depending on how heavy your legs are there is a heal down technique that is both fast, even, and powerful. It involves using your thigh muscle instead of your calf. You have to have shoes on because the motion is pushing your foot forward but not letting it move, this translates into a snapping motion. Imagine trying to kick forward without moving your heel and you get the idea. I switch to this kind of kick when I need speed and endurance for a fast piece.
kodack10 1 year ago
to get better, put ear plugs in and turn the spring tension all the way down and every two weeks, go on the drum set after practicing, without ear plugs in, and spring tension on max, you'll be faster than you think, what it does is build up your leg muscles more so you can still play clean, fast, and loud. take my word, i've been doing this only for about two weeks myself and i can play as fast as 200 bpm on pearl eliminaters on the lowest spring tension there is, try this!
soulsinger90876 1 year ago
dude how do i have to adjust the pedal to stop the beater from pounding my toes? i play with socks and i can tell yea it hurts like fuck
allmetaliswelcome 1 year ago
@allmetaliswelcome Change the beater angle to 45 degrees and tighten up your spring tension.
andy15m374l 1 year ago
@andy15m374l is only tightening tension fine? it's a really crappy pedal so i can't adjust beater
allmetaliswelcome 1 year ago
you're right i recently tightened mine and changed the angle of my beaters everythings so much more smooth
pavillanuiw 1 year ago
why didnt u just remake the video?
joeysharbeen95 1 year ago
really fast crap XD
syngatesbestbud101 1 year ago
i can do that but i have a hard time having them match up rather than one after another
funymaggot12 1 year ago
yo dumb ass thats what triggers are for dumb shit
AjaxpuffNstuff 1 year ago
a very good video. i have a question. I can play slow with power strokes, but when i get faster, I just can't stop my leg moving so I have to stop it, cause I can't play with the whole leg. How can I make my ancle and foot move? Thx you and sorry for my english, I'm russian :)
MsJuct1ce 1 year ago
Axis <3
DewKingZombie 1 year ago
hey awesome video, i have a question, i have no problem when i do it with my right foot, but with my left its like after a few seconds it gets stuck, so, what kind of exercises should i do or any advice to get better???
necronomus 1 year ago
@necronomus Slow way down and hit the kicks really hard. Play so slow that it almost doesn't sound like double bass, but not quite. Playing at that speed will build your technique and power faster.
andy15m374l 1 year ago
@andy15m374l tanks for reply and for that advice
necronomus 1 year ago
@necronomus im right footed, but still my right foot gets stuck easier than left :O?
sniizzei 1 year ago
@necronomus eat your green vegetables. seriously. do it. it helps. really.
bubblz1414 1 year ago
@necronomus i got the same problem, im new to double bass so my left foot is soooo much slower than the right. its a bitch
Moshinmysocks1 1 year ago
its all about momentum.
YOWHATTHEHELLUP71 1 year ago
your neighbors are probably like: shots fired! call the cops!
haha it sounds like you're playing call of duty with your feet
sh4ne 1 year ago
@sh4ne The camera mic the sound flattened the sound and made it sound like that so fortunately the neighbors know its a kick drum, haha
andy15m374l 1 year ago
LMFAO "and that one too"
stormride00 1 year ago
Love those pedals o.O
Ehrydel 1 year ago
LOL "And that one too"
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gjhjghbghjg 1 year ago
I found the easiest way to pick this up was with fast punk beats
TheImpressionable 1 year ago
your plantar flexing with your gastroc and your dorsiflexing with your tibialis anterior
growsomeballsamerica 1 year ago
u rich bitch T_T
noconflictbanana 1 year ago
haha this guy is awesome
flinginferrets 1 year ago
nice man this helped a lot. what tempo did u start at
ilikeamp 1 year ago
do you just set your bass drums like that.. or just for the demonstration
glitchhacker101 1 year ago
@glitchhacker101 That's where I put them. I took the snare out from between them so I could get a view of the pedal and drum. You may also notice that I only used my left foot in this video because it was the easiest to shoot with my right hand haha.
andy15m374l 1 year ago
@andy15m374l well your bass drum are really like straight.. lol.. arent you suppose to tilt them slightly? or is that personal preference?
glitchhacker101 1 year ago
@glitchhacker101 I didn't watch the video before answering. It may be set up different in that respect for this video. I do point both pedals towards me.
andy15m374l 1 year ago
@andy15m374l
Hi. I can do this with both feet individually no problem. But what I really want to know is how much do you lean forward/how much weight are you resting on your feet? Cos i'm finding balance the hardest thing and it doesn't seem to be getting better. Cheers.
battlemetal666 1 year ago
@battlemetal666 I don't put any weight on my feet while playing double bass. The bodyweight is on the buttocks and all four limbs are off doing their job with no concern for gravity. Balance comes when your movements get more efficient and precise.
andy15m374l 1 year ago
@glitchhacker101 They look slightly tilted....About as much as I have mine. It's funny, he plays barefoot to.....
JSPAG518 1 year ago
you put more annotations in your videos than anyone else i know lol
iwilleatyou7678 1 year ago
@iwilleatyou7678 I either forget to include some details, or there are some details that I would like to include, but aren't important enough to make the video longer. It's sort of like white out for me I guess.
andy15m374l 1 year ago
so do you ever rest your heel or just find a balance with weight on your toes
whitexgreen 1 year ago
@whitexgreen No weight ever goes on the heels. It's all a balancing act on the throne, one that I never actually think about. Sometimes when there is no double bass I will put a foot on the floor or hi hat pedal and put weight on it though.
andy15m374l 1 year ago
really fast...crap LOL
Firemajestix 1 year ago
i just need to get my lefft foot going faster like my right
LastMinLife 1 year ago
Do you need longboards to achieve over 200 bpm?
sovereignsjust 1 year ago
@sovereignsjust No, definitely not.
andy15m374l 1 year ago
@sovereignsjust i would think so if you've got size 13 feet like me....
nitsuj1231 1 year ago
I put the tension of my pedals really loose and the tune my drum really tight to get a good rebound, like what Spikydrummer does is that something you would suggest?
sovereignsjust 1 year ago
@sovereignsjust No I would suggest the exact opposite. If you haven't already, watch my video about kick tuning and see of you like that sound. That is with the head all the way loose. Depending on rebound is not a good idea. That is why there are springs on the pedal, you can get the exact action you want consistently in a uniform manner that brings the board to a predetermined position.
andy15m374l 1 year ago
thanks man, this was actually really helpful
confederateman 1 year ago
im actually gonna make a drum solo using the double bass pedal
deathbyninja007 1 year ago
thanks very useful
deathbyninja007 1 year ago
NICE PEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!
licr8 1 year ago
I'm sorry, but when people make drum videos and they show their legs please wear socks. (And no jorts) Helpful video though!
oOJupiterMeltsOo 1 year ago
It's easier to do w/ shoes my friend.
udaman100 1 year ago
you can seperate your pedles
alexjtrejo 1 year ago
has the logo ever cut you? i heard the a has a sharp part on it... hmmmm nice video
EverydayAvenged1 1 year ago
@EverydayAvenged1 Definitely not, if you use shoes.
Aboogaboogaboo 1 year ago
would doin exercises like calf raises help with speed and endurance because it is working your calfs?
lucci97 1 year ago
Where do you buy those protection pads on your bass drum?
AceofSpades4000 1 year ago
nice shoes.
TheRevIsLegend 1 year ago 67
Would you be able to tell me, your VDL distance, beater angle and height and are you using full spring tension? Thanks man! great vid :)
kentsmedblom 1 year ago
very nice demonstration, I think the best I saw
promilovic 1 year ago
Could youlook at my drum videos and tell me if I ply sloopy or clean?
Thanks.
littlemax4 1 year ago
Whats the point of using 2 bass drums?
godjesusmoses 1 year ago
@godjesusmoses No drive linkage between the pedals so they are both exactly the same.
andy15m374l 1 year ago 17
@andy15m374l
I meant having 2 bass drums not 2 seperate pedals. Hence "2 bass drums" not 2 pedals. Unless thats what you meant?
godjesusmoses 1 year ago
@andy15m374l
ya, the drive linkage pisses me off, i can never and never will be able to make the left and right foot even... :(
idunno130 1 year ago
@andy15m374l the only downside i have had with two basses is sound, when you have to tune its a bitch to get them to sound the same, but i use both methods, double bass and double pedal, i have three kits one with single pedal, one with double pedal, and the 3rd with double bass, love all three but its all what makes you comfortable, dont just get things because other people do, do what is best for you
FalamsProductions 1 year ago
@andy15m374l the drums sound inconstant, unless ur triggering
MackBruce12 1 year ago
@andy15m374l actually with the pearl eliminator demon drive, there is no difference between the left pedal and the right pedal. thats why the demon drive is better than the axis pedal. i have both, i know.
killu626 1 year ago
@godjesusmoses No with 2 bass drums you can play faster with the bass drums then a double pedal becuase when your hitting one surface it has to rebound two times more, and theres a limit to how much one bass drum can rebound before you have to tighten it up, but then it dosent sound like a bass drum.
disturbedfan545 1 year ago
@godjesusmoses it looks cool...and chicks think you have big ballz...thaaa...
Vlada086 1 year ago
@godjesusmoses and also if you mic the drums for rec etc. there is more airflow. when you use just one your not getting the full sound and air travel.
pyroman29 1 year ago
@godjesusmoses Maybe he likes two bass drums. Have you never seen a drum kit with 2 bass drums? Someone could ask what is the point of two floor toms? or two cybals? or two upper toms? or two of anything. Drum kits are never the same. obviously.
jordanjcm 1 year ago
@godjesusmoses show
iuztrk 1 year ago
@godjesusmoses wow u are stupid
adlerdiaz96 1 year ago
@adlerdiaz96 i think he meant, whats the point of having two seperate bass drums each with their own pedal, as compared to one bass drum with a double pedal
TheRakbar 1 year ago
@godjesusmoses most heavy metal songs or drummers use double bas makes it sound real cool
funnyguy12345677 1 year ago
Yeah its smoother to play and each pedal is hitting the drum dead center. Personally i think it looks obnoxious and unneccesary. but w.e works
J0shFrazier 1 year ago
thank you dude this and the links are gonna help me for sure
password269 1 year ago
lol good advice man btw super jelous of ur damn axis long boards lol i want somme really bad cuz i got me some big feets lol
xXsynystershadowsXx 1 year ago
m8 your floor tom is pretty much touching your right leg
5Metalgod5 1 year ago
another note to make is that your feet should NEVER LEAVE THE PEDAL. You lift your foot and the pedal comes with it (that's what the spring is for, to make sure the beater and pedal "return")
TomBAcoustic 1 year ago
haha "and that one too"
i cant seem to stop moving my whole
leg when im trying to go faster :|
ThisSydeUp 1 year ago
great video man thanks
richardblabla 1 year ago
im having trouble playing "fast" like i start playing and i can get to a pretty good speed but when i try to get faster like for example near the begging of beast and the harlot where the rev is goin pretty fast my legs are moving but my feet are kind of just sliding or like staying still so like its like im not even really using the bass drum at that sppeed.. it sounds like shit when i do that and my legs get cramped as hell advice?
xXEmoDrummer7Xx 1 year ago
becouse its just to boring. so make it not so boring for urself. just make sure u can do it clean and solid in the first place like this great guy explains and then pick up the tempo as u progress
do a blast beat for 5 mins straight 5 times a day. while listening to black eyed peas and after 2 weeks youll be posting vids showing ppl how to do it lol
59fiftydeep 1 year ago
my tip to double bass and any beat.
once youve learnt the basics of that beat and can play it solid slow and clean. put on ur ipod and just play that beat solid for 5 mins. 1. its not so boring and robotic when u are listening to music. 2. discipline discipline discipline! ur playing it for 5 mins straight so ur guna get good and fast ( as long as u can do it solid and slow to begin with) i have never met nor seen anyone that will just sit there and play sumthing for so long
59fiftydeep 1 year ago
When I go over 170, I almost only use my ankles and calfs, should I push my leg to get faster or is it fine to start using calfs and ankles at that speed?
Ubben1999 1 year ago
@ubben1999: yeah its fine to use ankles and calves at that speed, i do and everything works as it should
TommyOwnzU 1 year ago
@TommyOwnzU: Ok, thanks for letting me know man :).
Ubben1999 1 year ago
Thanks nice vid helped me out alot
1993lildrummerboy 2 years ago
nice vid.... i always play heels up so i totally agree with you :)
HalfBakedDrummeR 2 years ago
Hey Andy,
Awesome instruction. Very through bro..Very nice...
letsrok713 2 years ago
Thankyou.
NOSsERTILIA 2 years ago
I bet those pedals smell good.
iFinni 2 years ago 2
@iFinni ew
HaroBMX907 2 years ago
lolz
CodyElford 1 year ago
Very helpful vid man!!! I just started playing double pedal about 2 weeks ago and I suck man...it's frustrating when you can't go fast..any tips????
sylic12 2 years ago
hey, do you keep your foot planted on the pedal when your playing at speeds like 140 bpm?
purplehalfstack 2 years ago
@purplehalfstack I always keep my foot with the pedal. That has to be done to keep the pedal under your control rather than have it swinging violently while you're trying to play.
andy15m374l 2 years ago
thanks bro.
purplehalfstack 2 years ago
Thanks man. I needed the EXACT info you were talking about. Your clarity and speed speaks for itself. 'Nuff said. Thanks again.
bahaturyan 2 years ago
Good video!
BlastBeatDolly 2 years ago
SIK.dawg...tanx fo the tip
NONE1OTS 2 years ago
um, is it normal for my hip(right hip) muscle to hurt after playing double bass for a while, cuz ive always had problems with it when drumming, and ive been playing with my ankles alot more lately and my right hip muscle still hurts. it seems like almost every time i play for more than 20 minutes my hip hurts. even if i havnt played drums for like two weeks, it will still hurt when i start playing again. can anyone help me out?
purplehalfstack 2 years ago
hey man just read your comment and STOP! lol thats a bad way to play because my drum tutor had a hip problem, thats the wrong way to do it and plus our legs are big,heavy and slow compared to our ankles lol so my tutor said to me play heel down for a year to build shin strengh then he will teach me heel up which is for fast and powerfull speeds but always practice with a metronome if u want any more help message me :)
SpaceCowboy617 2 years ago
yea, i think you told me that the last time we talked. ive been playing heels down for the last two weeks and have been practicing heel down off of my kit for like two years(which is basically me just tapping my feet on the floor at school, home, etc.) I also have been playing heels up with alot more ankle movement and ive been warming up for about 5 minutes or so before i play drums. The pain is always in the right hip and my hip muscle will sometimes hurt even if im not double bassing.
purplehalfstack 2 years ago
Hey I play double bass with heels up technique, but when I play single bass I play flat foot, and sometimes heel toe(very rarely) would this be a problem, because its what I feel comfortable with, but I dont no if its the right way to play
Godsmack0Believe 2 years ago