Jean-Baptiste ROBIN plays TOURNEMIRE(live in Saint-Eustache)

[joserailway]

zoiets blijft mooi ! klassiek muziek ,)

[mirax83]

@jnetusil: Please upload some of your organ playing, so we can check if you always follow the editor's guidelines.

[LCRECORDS1]

Sublime!!!.



[gngeannakakes]

@jnetusil Be that as it may, this is my favorite interpretation of this piece. There may be many different ways of interpreting this piece, but I think this is the best, even better than Tournemire's own original improvistion itself.

[vleermuisje2]

Charles Tournemire wordt hier op volledig juiste manier gespeeld.

Groot compliment voor Jean-Baptiste Robin die het machtige Van den Heuvel - orgel met wonderbaarlijke souplesse bespeelt.

Merci bien!



[jv04jm]

I love this and I love Tournemire's music including his Te Deum improvisation! Fantastic!!!

[affanno91]

Who can send this score by email? I desperately need.

[Monteverdi1607]

Beautiful

[MrAdrianGunning]

Thank you Jean-Baptiste. I so love this music.

[jasonc001]

Robin is a fine technician and interpreter. I'd wish to see more vids from him. How about some Franck?

[chamade16]

Beautiful.

[choirboyfromhell1]

WOW

[OronocoJDL]

Yes, he was using toestuds most of the time to control registration. The console has digital pressure-actuated pistons under each manual deck (more unobtrusive than the traditional white push buttons).

As for Tournemire being more appropriate for modern organs. I have played several Cavaille-Coll organs with master coupled resonans divs with CC voiced reeds and mixtures. I would submit they have comparable power, esp since these men composed on CC organs in the first place!

[PSearPianist]

I enjoyed this video. I was impressed that he played this without music, and also without the apparent aid of a registrant. I assume he used a set of preprogrammed combinations operated by foot pistons, as I couldn't spot him changing stops with his hands.

[goodguysdoll]

hey psearpianist. you should not feed into the absurd notion that having a "registrant", as you call it, to assist in registration changes is an UNimpressive thing. WHO CARES IF THERE IS AN ASSISTANT OR NOT? does it make one bit of difference to the listener, or to the music. Are you aware that there are ENDLESS pieces that cannot be played according to the composer's wishes WITHOUT an assistant? The Duruflé toccata cannot be played with Duruflé's registration unless one has an assistant.

[PSearPianist]

Thanks for your response. I write as a one-time organ student who was constantly frustrated by the difficulties of changing registrations while playing unaided on pipe organs - way before electronically controlled combination setting was available. I get round the problem these days by focusing on extemporisation for voluntaries in church services, where I fit the music to the sounds available, and can adapt it to the mechanics of changing registration!

[Angultimmarik]

The piece is played wonderful bombastically! Thanks to the organ! In comparison with the performance of Olivier Latry at Notre Dame..

[tjugofyra]

I think that Jean-Baptiste Robin plays this very, very good but compared to the recording of Latry...Latry's recording is over the top! The way he uses the acoustics and the organ. His timing is perfect in that recording!!

[Angultimmarik]

I know that Latry plays it the way Tournemire did when he made the originaI recording. Nevertheless, I feel this piece quite more louder and firmer. At all, I think that Cavaille-Coll organs aren't that suitable for Tournemire's modern harmonies - nor for Duruflé or Messiaen. Van den Heuvel organs are quite stronger and more appropriate for such music.

[tjugofyra]

I don't know if VdH organs are better suited for Tournemire, I have to think about that!

I guess that the VdH in St Eustache is very loud but I doubt that VdH organs are louder that CC organs over all. I have only played one CC. It was one of the last he ever built and it was just as loud as the very powerful VdH in Katarina church in Stockholm. The CC has 22 stops (I think) and the VdH has 62. Of course since it was one of CC last organs, he was most likely having some hearing problems!

[Angultimmarik]

I've never played a CC organ, but heard it and I know enough recordings of CC organs, so I daresay that - like many romantic organs - they aren't that loud ( due to the Barker machine or the pneumatic tracker action). Modern organs are stronger. Of course, Tournemire improvisated it in a slower and softer way, I think Duruflé's transcription requires a louder organ.

[polsterj]

What are you talking about? Modern organs are stronger than a CC? They are maybe louder because of the chamades, but I bet there's no modern organ to compete with Cavaillé-Coll's reeds.

I will visit Paris next year - I will hear St Eustache and St Sulpice and tell you afterwards which organ was stronger!

[lorbo77]

I played many C.Coll, Rouen and St. Sulpice also. And of course I played a lot of modern organs too. Usually modern organs are stronger than Cavaillé-Coll. But Cavaillé-Coll are far far better as sound quality, balance, and all.. (for me)

The power is not only decibels! but especially balance between stops and harmonization, and Cavaillé-Coll was a genious. His organs are always perfectly balanced for the church where they are, never too loud

[poopingeneral]

@lorbo77; how many decibels can St. Ouen, and St. Eustache create at there max volume?

[jv04jm]

@poopingeneral Interesting question!  You ever received an answer to this yet?

[poopingeneral]

@jv04jm I have yet to get a response to this question. I suspect though, both organs can pump out around 120-130 db's at there max. They both don't compare though to the Midmer Losh organ in New Jersey.

[drrh1663]

@poopingeneral You may be close, but probably closer to 110 to 120. Notre Dame is around 140, and that is loud. These organs are loud. They were built to be, but the difference is in the balance. They are not a loud "noise" but rather a well balanced fullness. There is a difference and what most newer instruments miss altogether. They turn out very harsh and unpleasant to the ear.

[EccentricRichard]

@polsterj - I can think of three organbuilders in the UK (J.W. Walker, Matthew Copley and the Willis firm) who really can voice reeds as well as Cavaillé-Coll. IMO Manders are too mild, Harrisons' too fat and smooth... VdHs I tend to find just a bit harsh, not quite the equal of a C-C in quality, and this beast is my least favourite VdH. Fisk in the USA are pretty damn close to C-C, though.

[nunocarmona]

«Cavaille-Coll organs aren't that suitable for Tournemire's modern harmonies - nor for Duruflé or Messiaen»

Excuse me but Messiaen played and composed for the Cavaille-Coll organ at La Trinité. He even supervised the small modifications made ro the organ. He loved that organ.

[Angultimmarik]

Yes, and the modifications is what counts!

Many people say that Messiaen composed for Cavaille-Coll organs, but the "Orgelbewegung" (dont know the English word) also shaped French organs - see the chamades and mixtures in Notre-Dame

[AnOrganCornucopia]

@nunocarmona - small modifications?! All that remained of C-C's organ by the time Messiaen was done with it was the pipework and the case - the chests and soundboards were all replaced AFAIK, the action and console were completely replaced... it is a masterpiece nevertheless, but a slightly-modified C-C it is not. If only the S. Clothilde organ had been treated as sympathetically - instead of which it was revoiced to hell.

[ronanmurray]

Wonderful!!!

[holtzisasaint]

Brilliant! Thanks for sharing.

[ThirtyTwoFoot]

Thank you Robin and well played! My favourite music...ever

The organ at St Eustache certainly sounds louder than the organ I last heard you play at St Dominic's Priory Haverstock Hill in Belsize Park in London!

[AnOrganCornucopia]

@ThirtyTwoFoot - though the Haverstock Hill Willis is immensely more musical, and lacks neither power, richness nor grandeur!

[ThierryEscaich]

Thank You. Tournemire's music is brilliant!