@AgartaliVaiz fuck kurdish in north more respect than you and your ancestor idioot may you dont recognize kurdistan from yemen ,all UN ORGANIZATION work in kurdistan and they free for writting report about any violation of human right so fuck off aand eat bullshit,stupid like you dont seen kurdistan and they live more better than you where you living ,there are marriage age low , how idiot like you talking without seen kurdistan,the kurdish girl have all right to marry more any other country
In Iraq The kurds circumcise their female kids (6-7 years old girls), in the Turkish Kurdistan the Kurds live like animals but they live better than the ones living in Kurdistan... At least it is forbidden to circumcise the women and to murder kids raped to honour the family due to Kurdish traditions.
@AgartaliVaiz fuckoff, in kurdistan more respect than you and your ancestor idioot may you dont recognize kurdistan from yemen ,all UN ORGANIZATION work in kurdistan and they free for writting report about any violation of human right so fuck off aand eat bullshit,stupid like you dont seen kurdistan and they live more better than you where you living ,there are marriage age low , how idiot like you talking without seen kurdistan,the kurdish girl have all right to marry more any other country
@AgartaliVaiz ok when your sister fucking dont kill her , l will gave nice gift late your family fuck in and honourable for you . idiot its lslam low and jewish low and you free for fucking your sister hahaha
@AgartaliVaiz of course i am part off socity ,we have our cultuer as well as lslamic frligion ,you idiot lol passage long time it effect to tration and cultuer , here l dont want talking in religion cause l thing religion and believes is persoal property evry one free to what he believes but in general you can't song out of herd, so idiot like you try to defeat from subject of history to socities which is other thing , the kurd participate with other nation , which not necessary you like ornot
You just have primitive Islamic culture. You circumcise little girls, you stone people to death, you cut hands and feet, you marry to your cousins etc. This is the Islam, this is the Kurdish culture...
@AgartaliVaiz fuck off again turk first kurdish enemy and you second enemy eat bullshit we kate our kurdistan historican kurdistan (Interestingly, enough the first texts of aryan were not found in India but in Kurdistan( northern Syria.)
Also the archeological founds in the Halaf culture of Kurdistan (northern Syria) shares similarities with indian ones.
We have also the mitanni language, which is a very archaic indo-iranian language(older and more archaic than old avestan
Kurdish homeland is Zagros mountains in Iran. You don't have any historical records; Your only culture is primitive Shariah law, Persian language that you speak with a terrible accent and zilghit which was invented by Africans.
@AgartaliVaiz idiot ASSyrian ASShole you illiterate cause you dont knnnow what mean Zagros plateau which stretch from Humiz sound to Azerbijan and from meddeternian sea to caspan sea &east tiger river & to babylion that all know Zagros-turus system,so you eat bullshit , Interestingly,enough the first texts of aryan were not found in India but in Kurdistan( northern Syria.) -oldest swastika in a site near Samarra in central Iraq(Hassuna culture), hurrian city & even babylion establish by hurrian
There is nothing called Zagros plateau; it is Zagros MOUNTAINS. The Greeks are not Turks, whereas the Middle Easterns are not Kurds... That some Kurds live in Syria for the last 5 centuries does not make the ancient peoples of the region Kurdish. You are just the apes of Zagros mountains... That's all...
@AgartaliVaiz The Mitanni were an Indo-European (Hurrian) people whose kingdom in northern Mesopotamia flourished from about 1600 (Second Intermediate Period) until it was conquered by the Hittite King Suppiluliumas during the reign of Akhenaten. At its peak, the empire stretched from Kirkuk (ancient Arrapkha) and the Zagros mountains in western Iran in the east, through Assyria to the Mediterranean sea in the west. Its center was in the region of the Khabur River,
@AgartaliVaiz l know where l find my history (Mitanni…See also: Indo-Aryan superstrate in MitanniThe earliest written evidence for an Indo-Aryan language is found not in India,but in Kurdistan(northern Syria) in Hittite records regarding one of their neighbors, the Hurrian-speaking Mitanni. In a treaty with the Hittites,the king of Mitanni, after swearing by a series of Hurrian gods, swears by the gods Mitrašil, Uruvanaššil, Indara, and Našatianna, who correspond to the Vedic gods Mitra
@AgartaliVaiz We have also the mitanni language, which is a very archaic indo-iranian language(older and more archaic than old avestan and rigvedic and which according to indo-european linguists forms a fifth independant indo-iranian group-the other 4 branches being eastern iranian,western iranian,dardic and indic).
So we have:
-oldest swastika in a site near Samarra in central Iraq(Hassuna culture), hurrian city
-oldest aryan texts in Kurdistan ( northern Syria)
From Wikipedia: Hurrian is an ergative, agglutinative language that, together with Urartian, constitutes the Hurro-Urartian family. I.M. Diakonoff and S. Starostin see similarities between Hurrian and the Northeast Caucasian languages, and thus place it in the Alarodian family.
Which means: Kurds have no relations with the Mitannis. You don't have a history!
@AgartaliVaiz idiot we have clay tablet in kurdisg , so fuck off (Are you suggesting that the Indo-European homeland is in North-east Anatolia?
If that's the case than how did Indo-Europeans manage to impose their language on people living all the way in Scandinavia, yet they couldn't even get the Semetic speakers to speak I-E , who are just walking distance away from north-east Anatolia.
@AgartaliVaiz fuck off we have oldest 4000 years ago idiot ASSyirian ASShole (The earliest written evidence for an Indo-Aryan language is found not in India,but in Kurdistan(northern Syria) in Hittite records regarding one of their neighbors, the Hurrian-speaking Mitanni. In a treaty with the Hittites,the king of Mitanni, after swearing by a series of Hurrian gods, swears by the gods Mitrašil, Uruvanaššil, Indara, and Našatianna, who correspond to the Vedic gods Mitra) haha found in kurdistan
@AgartaliVaiz idiot the guti tibe migration from Zgros in 2millennium BC (Another branch migrated to Europe, where they became variously known as Goths, Gaetonnes, and Getae, inaugurating the well-known Gothic phase of architecture and giving their name to several places such as Jutland and Gotland. Yet another branch migrated to Sumeria, establishing one of the greatest empires in Sumerian history. Denominated Gutian
@TheVictoriandolly but european belong to kurdiostan homeland of aryan (Evidence dating back to 6300 BC shows that the Hurrian people were among the oldest of Kurdish ancestors to inhabit the mountains of Kurdistan.(Today, the Hurrian name is survived by the present Kurdish region of Hawraman.)
2500 BC:
Indo-European tribes begin migrating in small numbers and settle across the Zagros mountains of Mesopotamia.
@TheArmenianDream Why did armenia butchered Kurds during 1915-1919 events? Why did ASALA butchered Kurds if you are friends? Why does Kurds claim (suppose to be Armenian land) in their Kurdistan?
the Hurrians are now a full-fledged and fascinating chapter in Mesopotamian history.scientific archeology have made such peoples as the Sumerians, Babylonians,Assyrians,Akkadians &Hittites into familiar names.Caches of tablets up to 5000 years old found in ruins and in tells-the mounds that dot the Fertile Crescent,layered with the remains of successive settlements—have given an ever more complex and more complete picture of the history of early civilizations.that was Hurrian (Khurrite )OR kurdi
Who were the Hurrians? We know that they lived during the third millenium, at the same time as the Sumerians in the south and the Semitic Eblaites to the northwest, explains Buccellati. Linguists believe there are connections between the ancient Hurrian language contemporary Georgian. It is possible that the Hurrians emerged from the Caucasus region and crossed into the Anatolian plateau, a region Kelly-Buccellati calls "the outer Fertile Crescent."
@AgartaliVaiz , the earliest evidence associated to a distinct culture shaped by the inhabitants of the Kurdish mountains is traced during the period of the Halaf Culture (6000BC-5000 BC). Named after the site of Tell Halaf in northeast Syria (today's Syrian Kurdistan), the Halaf Culture was known for its exceptionally sophisticated pottery. Delicately painted and designed, Halaf pottery has been found from Iran to southeast Turkey and it is easily recognizable.
@AgartaliVaiz we dont want any one to be kurd,but they must prove him aryan a& indo-european to origin sourse the ancient ancestor Hurrian whom they leave clay tablet in kurdish language,if they claim they indo-european the one wat infront him they prove they was khaldi or kurdi,those khaldi was offshoot of hurrian and the risein early of iron age after invasion of ASSyrian evil to region,part off him migration to cuacasian and other stay in region,
@AgartaliVaiz caucasian are indo-eurpean (Today, the city of Mush in northern Kurdistan is named after Mushku; Mount Ararat is the inheritance of Urartu; the Kurdish tribal association of Zubari is named after Subaru. The extraordinary legacy of the Hurrians to the contemporary Kurdish culture is manifested in mythology, religion, martial art and genetics. Religious symbols are ever present in the Kurdish art, while nearly 65 percent of Kurdish names are of Hurrian descent.
@AgartaliVaiz Some theonyms, proper names and other terminology of the Mitanni exhibit an Indo-Aryan superstrate, suggesting that an Indo-Aryan elite imposed itself over the Hurrian population in the course of the Indo-Aryan expansion.In a treaty between the Hittites and the Mitanni the deities Mitra, Varuna, are invoked. Kikkuli's horse training text (circa 1400 BC) includes technical terms such as aika (eka, one), tera (tri, three), panza (pancha, five), satta (sapta, seven), na (nava, nine),
That Kurds speak an Indo European language does not make the Indo Europeans Kurdish. You are just Kurds, a new identity. You are nothing except baby circumciser tribes!
@AgartaliVaiz idiot kurdistan homland of aryan (Evidence dating back to 6300 BC shows that the Hurrian people were among the oldest of Kurdish ancestors to inhabit the mountains of Kurdistan.(Today, the Hurrian name is survived by the present Kurdish region of Hawraman.)
2500 BC:
Indo-European tribes begin migrating in small numbers and settle across the Zagros mountains of Mesopotamia.
@AgartaliVaiz Hurrian Kurdistan is dominated by the Indo-European tribes. Although a significant amount of the Hurrian culture remains, the Indo-European language is adopted by the people of Kurdistan. Many ancient civilizations, such as the Assyrians, refer to all the people of Kurdistan as Kardu or Kordu.
@AgartaliVaiz The Gutians overthrew the Akkadian dynasty, liberating the Sumerians from the Semitic yoke. The attempt by the fanatical Akkadian rulers to suppress the Sumerian language were rolled back, and a Sumerian renaissance occurred under benevolent Gutian rule. Describing the Sumerian revival under the Gutians, Badawy notes, ") marked a decisive phase in the Semitization of Mesopotamia, a process which went on in spite of the renascence of Sumerian under the Gutians (2000 BC)
@AgartaliVaiz . The very first mention of the Kurds in history was about 3,000 BC, under the name Gutium, as they fought the Summerians(Spieser). Later around 800 BC, the Indo-European Median tribes settled in the Zagros mountain region and coalesced with the Gutiums, and thus the modern Kurds speak from as Aryan language (Morris). The Kurds are mentioned by Xenaphon, a Greek mercenary, as he retreated from Persia with ten thousand men in 401 BC, he says of the Kurds, "T
These -That the Hurrians, Hittites, Urartus, Greeks, Persians etc are Kurdish- are Kurdish lies. Kurds are just Kurds... No culture, no history; a bunch of nomads with a primitive Islamic culture who are trying to steal the histories of unrelated peoples of unrelated races... You disgust most of the people, did you know that? YES, YOU KNEW AND KNOW THAT...
@AgartaliVaiz fuck off extinct ASSyrian the kurd (identifies the Gutians as ancestors of the modern Kurds: "The very first mention of the Kurds in history was about 3,000 BC, under the name Gutium, as they fought the Summerians (Spieser). Later around 800 BC, the Indo-European Median tribes settled in the Zagros mountain region and coalesced with the Gutiums, and thus the modern Kurds speak from as Aryan language (Morris). The Kurds are mentioned by Xenaphon
@AgartaliVaiz the Mitanni exhibit an Indo-Aryan superstrate, suggesting that an Indo-Aryan elite imposed itself over the Hurrian population in the course of the Indo-Aryan expansionIn a treaty between the Hittites and the Mitanni (between Suppiluliuma and Matiwaza, ca. 1380 BC), the deities Mitra, Varuna, Indra,are invoked. Kikkuli's horse training text (circa 1400 BC) includes technical terms such as aika (eka,one), tera (tri, three),panza (pancha, five), satta (sapta, seven), na (nava, nine),.
@AgartaliVaiz fuck off you idiot , who are to know or not we like foolish like you ignore and stupid (728 BC:
Revolts by the Median Kurds and Babylonians leads to the fall of the Assyrian Empire.The Median Empire, known as Medya, is established in 728 BC. Zoroastrianism is founded as the religion of Medya. The Medes celebrate the new year (Newroz) at the beginning of Spring after Medya is liberated.Under the rule of Cyaxares in 626 BC, the Median Empire expands.
@AgartaliVaiz lol maintan this poem (The fall of Nineveh shocked the ancient world. The Jewish prophet Nahum described the Median armies advancing to the city that had once ruled the Near East.
@AgartaliVaiz Sumerian inscriptions of 2000 BC, as well as early Assyrian inscriptions of a thousand years late,indicate the existence of a people named Kardaka, Kurtie or Guti in the neighbourhood of Lake Van. These are claimed by some authorities to be the ancestors of the modern Kurds, but it is not until Grecian times that certain identification is possible. Herodotus mentions the inhabitants of what is now Bohtan,& Xenophon refers to the Garduchi, possibly an earlier form of the modern name
@AgartaliVaiz The Gutians were also evidently kin of the Kassites, as Saba Dara notes, "The Babylonian army was eventually defeated by a combined force of Gutium and their kinsmen, the Kashshu (Kas-Pi) or Kassites." (Dara 2000) The Kassites have long been identified as Iranoid.
Moreover, in an entire book, scholar Hennerbichler links the Kurds with the Gutians (Hennerbichler 2004, p.183-184)
@AgartaliVaiz Not only was Gutium located within the modern Kurdistan.The very name 'Kurd' itself has been viewed by scholars as being merely a corruption of the ancient Iranic word 'Guti'.Thus,Prof. Howorth concurs with the derivation of Kurdistan from Gutium, and identifies the ancient Babylonian term for Kurds,'Khuradi'or'Quradu,'with 'Guti':
"The land of Guti answers in substance,name, to the modern Kurdistan. According to Sayce the name Kurd is derived from the Babylonian quradu,'a warrior
@AgartaliVaiz The Kurds are a native,people who have lived in the Middle East for thousands of years. Their name derives from the ancient Guti (Guti-Gurti-Kurdi), conquerors of Babylon. They were the Hurrians of Mesopotamia and the Medes of Persian history. Their home covers mountainous regions now part of Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and other countries as well. But the heartland of ancient Gutium, the domain of later autonomous Kurdish mirs, had been in what is now." (Honigman 2003
@AgartaliVaiz Guti", "Qurti", "Kurtie" oder aehnlich bezeichnet werden und deren Gebiet man "Gutium" oder "Kardaka" nannte. Eine zweite Linie aus dem Gebiet des noerdlichen Zagros und des Taurus fuehrt von diesem "Kardaka" der Sumerer, den armenischen "Beth-Kurdu", den "Khaldern" des ersten Jahrtausend v. Chr. und den durch Xenophons Bericht "Anabasis" beruehmt gewordenen "Karduchen" und ihrem Land zum heutigen armenischen "Kordukh",, Ullstein Frankfurt/Main; Berlin 1991,S.64)" (Telek 2003, p.7)
@AgartaliVaiz Kirkuk has been a Kurdish city.It is a part of Zagros highlands which is the original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races &tribes In an article published in,Mr.Mustafa Qaradaghi states thatGutium or Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language,which was also spoken by their kin of Lulu,Kassite& Mittani.heir capital city was in and around the town of Kirkuk,named Arrapha"Mazouri 2002
@AgartaliVaiz We may mention that there is evidence to show that the Mauryas were from the ancient Maṇda empire. Much earlier, we find them named as Muru or Mor by the Egyptians and the scriptures.There, these Mores were called Amuru and Amor or Amorites. CAH mentions that the initial vowel, 'a'the initial vowel 'a' has to be ignored in order to find the correct name of these people and this clearly remains as Mur/Mor. This is the same as the Moor of Europe and the Mor clan of the Jats in India
@AgartaliVaiz The Chinese were right in stating that the Hiung-nu were a part of the Yue-Che (reads as Guti ) people, and these Guti people had two divisions, the Ta-Yue-Che and the Siao-Yue-Che, exactly corresponding to the Massagetae &Thyssagetae of Herodotus (a classical Greek writer of fifth century BC)meaning the "Great-Jats" & the "Little-Jats" respectively. Almost every tribe of ancient Middle East (West Asia)&Central Asia, is represented among the present day Jats in India.(Dahiya 1980
@AgartaliVaiz idiot the hun was mongols , real you animal , the kurd (The Kurds are mentioned by Xenaphon, a Greek mercenary, as he retreated from Persia with ten thousand men in 401 BC, he says of the Kurds, "These people, lived in the mountains and were very war-like and not subject to the Persian king. Indeed once a royal army of 120,000 thousand had once invaded their country, and not a man of them came back..(Morris).
Noone talks about Kurds. Those people talk about other peoples and you just want to call them "Kurdish". It is just your dreams. As you dream that the Turkic Federations of old times are Kurdish; NO WAY! We were not and are not the neanderthals! Turks are turks and you are just Kurds; nothing more...
@AgartaliVaiz lol all these history on google write by scholars (Subartu was apparently a polity in Northern Mesopotamia,at the upperTigris,in the general sphere of influence of the Hurrians.Its precise location has not been identified.According to some scholars like Harvard Professor Mehrdad Izady,identifies Subartus with the current Kurdish tribe of Zibaris inhabiting the northern ring around Mosul up to Hakkari i Subartu marked the northern geographical horizon, just as Martu, Elam and Sumer
That you talk about some ancient peoples does not make them Kurdish. You have no culture except Sharia law which can never connect you to any culture.
@AgartaliVaiz illiterate the ancient was named country according to tribes name (Evidence dating back to 6300 BC shows that the Hurrian people were among the oldest of Kurdish ancestors to inhabit the mountains of Kurdistan.(Today, the Hurrian name is survived by the present Kurdish region of Hawraman.)
2500 BC:
Indo-European tribes begin migrating in small numbers and settle across the Zagros mountains of Mesopotamia.
Which evidence shows that the non Indoeuropean Hurris were the ancestors of Kurds? There is not a single evidence for that which is impossible. You are just Sunni Iranians, that is all. The secterian conflict created the Kurdish people. That is all. You are not connected to any culture. You are only the tribes speaking a primitive Iranian language and living like Bedouins of the 6th century.
@AgartaliVaiz approximately 4300 BC, a new culture, and possibly a new people, came to dominate the mountains: the Hurrians. Of the Hurrians we know much more, and the volume of our knowledge becomes greaterwith time. We know, for example, that the Hurrians spread far and wide into the Zagros-Taurus mountain systems and intruded for a time on the neighboring plains of Mesopotamia and the Iranian Plateau. However, they never expanded far from the mountains
@AgartaliVaiz the modern Kurdistan, as Easton notes: " Shoa Opulent, the mountain district lying to the north-east of Babylonia, anciently the land of the Guti, or Kuti, the modern Kurdistan. The plain lying between these mountains and the Tigris was called su-Edina, i.e., "the border of the plain." This name was sometimes shortened into Suti and Su, and has been regarded as = Shoa (Eze 23:23). Some think it denotes a place in Babylon. (See PEKOD.)", "Sumerian inscriptions of 2000 BC,
@AgartaliVaiz The plain lying between these mountains and the Tigris was called su-Edina, i.e., "the border of the plain." This name was sometimes shortened into Suti and Su, Some think it denotes a place in Babylon. (See PEKOD.)" (Easton 1897, entry "Shoa") In this regard, Elphinston notes, "Sumerian inscriptions of 2000 BC, as well as early Assyrian inscriptions of a thousand years later, indicate the existence of a people named Kardaka, Kurtie or Guti in the neighbourhood of Lake Van
@AgartaliVaiz Xenophon refers to the Garduchi, possibly an earlier form of the modern name. Strabo speaks of the country of Courdueni where Bait Kardu is located by Aramaic sources. The modern form 'Kurdu' first appears in Arabic writings of the ninth century AD with the plural form 'Akrad'." In a similar vein,ationalists feel that they can claim to represent the Median as distinct from the Persian element in the great Iranian immigration about the beginning of the first millenium BC
Not only was Gutium located within the modern Kurdistan. The very name 'Kurd' itself has been viewed by scholars as being merely a corruption of the ancient Iranic word 'Guti'. Thus, Prof. Howorth concurs with the derivation of Kurdistan from Gutium, and identifies the ancient Babylonian term for Kurds, 'Khuradi' or 'Quradu,' with 'Guti': "The land of Guti answers in substance, and perhaps also in name, to the modern Kurdistan
The name Kurd does not come from Guti. There is thousands of years gap between the Gutis and Kurds.Kurds are just a new race because of secterian fights. Kurds are the Sunni Iranian people. That is all. You all look like Neanderthals; you have no relationships with the ancient peoples.
@AgartaliVaiz illiterate and retard kurd derive from Guti or Khurti or kurdi (Kurd name derived from Guti ,Not only was Gutium located within the modern Kurdistan. The very name 'Kurd' itself has been viewed by scholars as being merely a corruption of the ancient Iranic word 'Guti'. Thus, Prof. Howorth concurs with the derivation of Kurdistan from Gutium, and identifies the ancient Babylonian term for Kurds, 'Khuradi' or 'Quradu,' with 'Guti':
Write the evolution of Guti to Kurdi. Fill the thousands years of gap. But you can not... Which means that Kurdi does not come from the Gutis. By the way they were just a loser tribe.
@AgartaliVaiz IGNORE all Zagrors tribe was kin tribes (and the Medes of Persian history. Their home covers mountainous regions now part of Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and other countries as well. But the heartland of ancient Gutium, the domain of later autonomous Kurdish mirs, had been in what is now-- thanks to the British (Honigman 2003)
@AgartaliVaiz 8000 years older than pyramids ! Gobekli Tepe, Human's First yet Known Temple in Northern Kurdistan
Gobekli Tepe ( Kurdish: Girê Navokê) is a hilltop sanctuary built on the highest point of an elongated mountain ridge about 15 km northeast of the Kurdish town of Urfa in northern Kurdistan. The site, currently undergoing excavation by German archaeologists,and was erected by hunter-gatherers in the 10th millennium BC (ca 11500 years ago), before the advent of sedentism. .
Urfa is not a Kurdish town; it is Arabic and Turkish. Göbekli Tepe is not Kurdish. The name Kurdish is made up in 13th century for the Sunni Iranians. That is all.
@AgartaliVaiz arab like mongols until 7th AD centry was wandering in desert they invasion mesopotamia and fertile crescent , anomal you with your almonds eyes dont see and stupid too ,foolish go learn history , you waked up so later , go read history the arab came to aerafter mongols invasion and massacer mijorty of peoplation of anatolia
The Kurds came to the region after the Arabs and Turks. There are no Roman, Armenian and Crusade records mentioning about Kurds. You are the refugees.
@AgartaliVaiz animal l only appear to stupid like you what Harvard write about kurd and kurdistan (Subartu was apparently a polity in Northern Mesopotamia, at the upper Tigris, in the general sphere of influence of the Hurrians. Its precise location has not been identified. According to some scholars like Harvard Professor Mehrdad Izady, identifies Subartus with the current Kurdish tribe of Zibaris inhabiting the northern ring around Mosul up to Hakkari
There are no records mentioning Kurds in the region. You just escaped from Iran to the region to avoid secterian persecution! You have no history, you have no culture...
@AgartaliVaiz lol our ancestor wrote it in 1500BC (the Mitanni exhibit an Indo-Aryan superstrate, suggesting that an Indo-Aryan elite imposed itself over the Hurrian population in the course of the Indo-Aryan expansion.In a treaty between the Hittites & the Mitanni ca.1380 BC), the deities Mitra, Varuna, Indra&Nasatyaare invoked. Kikkuli's horse training text (1400 BC) includes technical terms such as aika (eka, one), tera (tri, three), panza (pancha, five), satta (sapta, seven), na (nava, nine)
@AgartaliVaiz you are thieves stole anatolia history which haven't any relation to altaic language , you mongols (the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia.
Turks own Turkey; that is all. We know Greeks and Armenians aren't Turkish but you parasites declare all the non Kurdish peoples Kurdish. This insanity is just the product of that Iraqi Kurdish guy who was sent to Harvard to look like an academician.
@AgartaliVaiz OFF COURSE ONLY MONGOLS STAY DONKEY IN MIDDE EAST (to the Turkic language speakers is thought to have been included in the Xiongnu of Mongoliaknown from historical sources. The Han Dynasty chronicle of the Xiong-nu, included in the Shi Ji, traces a legendary history of them back a thousand years before the Han to a legendary ancestor, Chunwei, a supposed descendant of the Chinese rulers of the Xia Dynasty. He lived among the "Mountain Barbarians"
@AgartaliVaiz you mongols of barbarian mountian little mongols(the Turkic language speakers is thought to have been included in the Xiongnu of Mongolia known from historical sources. The Han Dynasty chronicle of the Xiong-nu, included in the Shi Ji, traces a legendary history of them back a thousand years before the Han to a legendary ancestor, Chunwei, a supposed descendant of the Chinese rulers of the Xia Dynasty.He lived among the "Mountain Barbarians
@AgartaliVaiz mongols you thought all they in 1 century it kate time more 7000 years and all sme peoples the different of name cause the tibes hom fall and ther rose , Mr. Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Gutium or Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language, which was also spoken by their kin of Subartu, Lulu, Kassite, and Mittani. Their capital city was in and around the town of Kirkuk, named Arrapha."
There is nothing sth like "Ancient" Kurds. Kurds are not related to any ancient people in the history. You are the historiless monkeys who want to steal histories and lands of others.
@AgartaliVaiz The Kurds are mentioned by Xenaphon, a Greek mercenary, as he retreated from Persia with ten thousand men in 401 BC, he says of the Kurds, "These people, lived in the mountains and were very war-like and not subject to the Persian king. Indeed once a royal army of 120,000 thousand had once invaded their country, and not a man of them came back..(Morris)." (Jensen 1996) Ancient Gutium was located within the modern Kurdistan,
@AgartaliVaiz identifies the Gutians as ancestors of the modern Kurds: "The thirty million Kurds of the Middle East have lived in Kurdistan before record of modern history was kept. The very first mention of the Kurds in history was about 3,000 BC, under the name Gutium, as they fought the Summerians (Spieser). Later around 800 BC, the Indo-European Median tribes settled in the Zagros mountain region and coalesced with the Gutiums, and thus the modern Kurds speak from as Aryan language
@AgartaliVaiz The plain lying between these mountains and the Tigris was called su-Edina, i.e., "the border of the plain." This name was sometimes shortened into Suti and Su, and has been regarded as = Shoa (Eze 23:23). Some think it denotes a place in Babylon. (See PEKOD.)""Sumerian inscriptions of 2000 BC, as well as early Assyrian inscriptions of a thousand years later, indicate the existence of a people named Kardaka, Kurtie or Guti in the neighbourhood of Lake Van
@AgartaliVaiz Evidence dating back to 6300 BC shows that the Hurrian people were among the oldest of Kurdish ancestors to inhabit the mountains of Kurdistan.(Today, the Hurrian name is survived by the present Kurdish region of Hawraman.)
2500 BC:
Indo-European tribes begin migrating in small numbers and settle across the Zagros mountains of Mesopotamia.
@AgartaliVaiz Subartu was apparently a polity in Northern Mesopotamia, at the upper Tigris, in the general sphere of influence of the Hurrians. Its precise location has not been identified. According to some scholars like Harvard Professor Mehrdad Izady, identifies Subartus with the current Kurdish tribe of Zibaris inhabiting the northern ring around Mosul up to Hakkari From the point of view of the Akkadian Empire, Subartu marked the northern geographical horizon, just as Martu, Elam and Sumer
@AgartaliVaiz the earliest evidence associated to a distinct culture shaped by the inhabitants of the Kurdish mountains is traced during the period of the Halaf Culture (6000BC-5000 BC). Named after the site of Tell Halaf in northeast Syria (today's Syrian Kurdistan), the Halaf Culture was known for its exceptionally sophisticated pottery. Delicately painted and designed, Halaf pottery has been found from Iran to southeast Turkey and it is easily recognizable.
@AgartaliVaiz In regards to whether Halaf Culture is original homeland of the Kurdsarchaeologists point out that shared pottery is an effective method to classify prehistoric cultures in the Middle E.By determining the boundaries of Halaf Culture,archaeologists are almost certain that they match with the geographical area that modern Kurds consider their homeland: from Afrin to Lake Van&from Kirmanshah to Adyaman.Besides,it is highly unlikely that the inhabitants of HalafCulture were immigrants
You are still talking about other peoples. They have nothing to do with you. Your homeland is Zagros mountains. That you infested Middle East like rats does not make Middle East and Anatolia your homeland. You are just the immigrants. That is all.
Before giving the names of others peoples just search those peoples and culture in Wikipedia. NONE of them mentions anyhing about Kurds. You are pathetic.You are rats who are making up stories to steal the lands of the peoples in whose countries you are living now! Shame on you! You are an ugly race, a cultureless and historiless people, thieves, criminals and traitors of Middle East. And you are the source of Islamic backwardness in the region.
@AgartaliVaiz lol Subartu was apparently a polity in Northern Mesopotamia,at the upper Tigris,in the general sphere of influence of the Hurrians.Its precise location has not been identified.According to some scholars like Harvard Professor Mehrdad Izady,identifies Subartus with the current Kurdish tribe of Zibaris inhabiting the northern ring around Mosul up to Hakkari From the point of view of the Akkadian Empire,Subartu marked the northern geographical horizon,just as Martu,Elam &Sumer
Some scholars (All Kurds) identify everything Kurdish. What does that mean? That means there is sth wrong in it. Zagros tribesmen of 16th century have nothing common with the Sumers, Elam, Martu and any other civilisations who live thousands years ago! The civilisations of Mesopotamia are not even Indo European you moron!
@AgartaliVaiz in german sourse(Die Bezeichnung Šubartu findet sich auch in den Amarna-Briefen und als Šbr in Ugarit. Nur einmal (BM 121057, 123532A) findet sich in assyrischen Inschriften die Schreibung mâtsu-bar-te[1]. Millard wertet dies als Beleg für babylonischen Einfluss und will die Tafel in die Regierungszeit von Tukulti-Ninurta I. oder Tiglat-pileser I. setzen.
Die Sprache von Subartu wird auf akkadisch als SuKI/SU.BIR4AKI (aus Šubartu) bezeichnet.
@AgartaliVaiz nice appear yopu document to prove that mongols illiterate , The earliest written evidence for an Indo-Aryan language is found not in India,but in Kurdistan(northern Syria) in Hittite records regarding one of their neighbors, the Hurrian-speaking Mitanni. In a treaty with the Hittites,the king of Mitanni, after swearing by a series of Hurrian gods, swears by the gods Mitrašil, Uruvanaššil, Indara, and Našatianna, who correspond to the Vedic gods Mitra
Mehrdad Izady is an Iraqi Kurd who tries to make up a history for the monkeys of Middle East. Whatever he says is composed of lies. You are descendants of nobody.
The fact that you repeat the history of ancient civilisations and calling them Kurdish does not make them Kurdish. It is their history; you can not steal others' histories.
@AgartaliVaiz nice appear yopu document to prove that mongols illiterate , The earliest written evidence for an Indo-Aryan language is found not in India,but in Kurdistan(northern Syria) in Hittite records regarding one of their neighbors, the Hurrian-speaking Mitanni. In a treaty with the Hittites,the king of Mitanni, after swearing by a series of Hurrian gods, swears by the gods Mitrašil, Uruvanaššil, Indara, and Našatianna, who correspond to the Vedic gods Mitra
@AgartaliVaiz Zagros highlands which is the original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races and tribes. In an article published in Kurdistan Times in its issue of winter 1990, Mr. Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language, which was also spoken by their kin of Subartu, Lulu, Kassite, and Mittani. Their capital city was in and around the town of Kirkuk, named Arraph
@AgartaliVaiz the denomination Gutian included the Iranic Medes as well: "To their very end in the 6th century BC, on the other hand, the Babylonians loosely (and apparently pejoratively) called {al-}most every body who lived in the Zagros-Taurus system a "Guti", including the Medes!" (Izady 1993)
It is thus clear: an overwhelming majority of scholars from different fields of history, anthropology, ethnography and linguistics identify the modern Kurds as descendants of the ancient Gutians
@AgartaliVaiz the denomination Gutian included the Iranic Medes as well: "To their very end in the 6th century BC, on the other hand, the Babylonians loosely (and apparently pejoratively) called {al-}most every body who lived in the Zagros-Taurus system a "Guti", including the Medes!"(Izady 1993) It is thus clear: an overwhelming majority of scholars from different fields of history, anthropology,ethnography & linguistics identify the modern Kurds as descendants of the ancient Gutians of Sumer
@AgartaliVaiz , the Babylonians loosely (and apparently pejoratively) called {al-}most every body who lived in the Zagros-Taurus system a "Guti", including the Medes!" (Izady 1993)
@AgartaliVaiz Prof. Izady holds that the Judikan clan of Kurds are to be specifically identified as the descendants of the Gutians:"12 In the 20th century, many hypotheses have been advanced to connect the name Kurd to that of the ancient Hurrian Guti (Hallo,1971) { 1971 "Gutium",William W. Hallo, RLA iii:708b-720a.}or the "Kardukhoi"of the Greek historian Xenophon (Cawkwell, 1979),none of which can any longer be maintained in light of discovery of the aformentioned Assyrian stele. The name Guti
@AgartaliVaiz .The name Guti, at any rate,survives today clearly in the name of the Kurdish clan of Judikan,inhabiting the heartland of the ancient Gutis in southeatern Kurdistan. The "Kardukhoi"who come to subsequently be known as the Gordyene to the classical authors,are none other than the predecessors of modern Girdi clan of Kurds who still reside exactly where the ancient Kardukhoi/Godyene were found.The name"Kurti/Kurd"seem likely to be of Aryan origin*one of the first,in fact,in Kurdistan
@AgartaliVaiz The name "Kurti/Kurd" seem likely to be of Aryan origin *one of the first, in fact, in Kurdistan* instead of the far more common Hurrian clan names encountered at all periods until today and including the Khardukhoi and Guti." (Izady 1993) The name Judikan is clearly merely a variant of "Jat", further cementing the thesis of a close relationship between the Jats and Kurds.
@AgartaliVaiz In regards to whether Halaf Culture is indeed the original homeland of the Kurds, archaeologists point out that shared pottery is an effective method to classify prehistoric cultures in the Middle East. By determining the boundaries of Halaf Culture, archaeologists are almost certain that they match with the geographical area that modern Kurds consider their homeland: from Afrin to Lake Van and from Kirmanshah to Adyaman. Besides
Media succeded with assimilation of the empire of Mittani replaced by Hittite and last were Media. I think the median empire were united empires to protecting themself against emmigration around Iran to Caucasus Anatolian part. They were against emmigration and invaders, medes themself invaded land of persia and field. The population inside median empire were descendant of native ancestors from iranian plateu from persian golf to Anatolia I have readed about from books about iranian empires.
kürdün tarihi yoktur. fars-arap-ermeni karisimi soysuz, tarihsiz bir kalabaliktir. anayurtlari Sarp daglarinin magralaridir. Sünni olmalari sebebiyle Safevi Kizilbaslilar 1300'lerde bunlari gebertecekken, Osmanli sahip çikmistir. Alevi 'kürtler' kürt degildir, kürtlesmis Türkmenlerdir.
The original population area of the Median people was western Iran and named after them as "Media".At the end of the 2nd millennium BC the Median tribes arrived in the region which they later called Media.These tribes expanded their control over larger areas subsequently &over a period of several hundred years the boundaries of Media moved,The geographical name "Media"survives in the Modern Iranian geographical name "Māhīdašt" (lit.“the Median plain,with "Māh < Māda) in the Kermanshah province
The Medes were an people of Indo-Iranian (Aryan) origin who inhabited the western and north-western portion of present-day Iran. By the 6th century BC (prior to the Persian invasion) the Medes were able to establish an empire that stretched from Aran (the modern-day Republic of Azerbaijan) to Central Asia and Afghanistan. Today's population of the western part of the Iranian Plateau (including many Persian-speakers, Kurds consider themselves to be descended from the ancient Medes.
the northern frontiers of Babylonia and later established the second Babylonian dynasty. Chronicles and king lists are imprecise, and although the Kassite kings traditionally ruled over Babylonia for 576 years, it is probable that the first Kassite(Ka-spi) kings reigned in Babylonia simultaneously with the last kings of the first Babylonian dynasty; thus Gandash, the first Kassite (Ka-spi) king, possibly began his reign about the middle of the 18th century Bc, but not at Babylon.
The fall of Nineveh shocked the ancient world. The Jewish prophet Nahum described the Median armies advancing to the city that had once ruled the Near East.
Mahabad is believed to be a pre-Zoroastrian Prophet and may be an alternative name for Adam. He is also called "Azar Hooshang" (the Fire of Wisdom).
He was the first of fifteen successive prophets, the thirteenth of whom was Zoroaster and the last was Sasan, from whom the Sassanid Dynasty may be supposed to trace their descent. Their writings are said to be collected in the Dasatir-i-Asmani.
The Paiman-i-Farhang (Excellent Covenant) is Mahabads code of laws
The plain in which Hajji Firuz Tepe is located lies in the northwestern part of the Zagros Mountains .The Gadar River flows through it toward the east to eventually end in marshes bordering Lake Urmia winemaking is best understood as an intentional human activity rather than a seasonal happenstance, then the Neolithic period (8500-4000 B.C.) is the first time in human prehistory when the necessary preconditions for this momentous innovation came together.where you ASSyrian in that time?
Elamite and Mesopotamia are descended from Zagros Mountains and down looked from north to south, the first settlements of agricultural discoveries are of the village of Jarmo means warm in the ridge east of Kirkuk in the seventh millennium BCand later comes the city of Nuzi in the third millennium BC,it stole the Tigris and dust to the west of the Tigris is Hassouna village and village Agirgav Kurdish word meaning flame of fire west of bagadad then to south (kadingra)babylon mean burn storg hay
@punzy7869 you donkey and foolish where ASSyrian talk about they die out since 2711 years ago appear you forget these lions who destroyed evil empire in 612 B.C l tald you they die out couse based of nation is language and your language die out in that great fall , you use religion language (aramic) its shame to say we nation or saying ASSyrian ,actually you inttering to mesopotamia as invasion and you went away like any invasion in history and you barking to doomsday its not useful
@punzy7869 ASSyrian were extinction for long time ago they all now in hell how American become your brother you samite and they aryan! and whats reltion between ASSyrian and american to thinking such foolish,you part of desert dog arabo and terrorist semite filthy blood l see you singing in different melody , l mention you you are nothing couse smply you die out since 2711 yeas ago and you seaking aramic what is this ASSyrian any nation have his own language to named your self ASSyriant
@punzy7869 ASSyrian were extinction for long time ago they all now in hell how American become your brother you samite and they aryan! and whats reltion between ASSyrian and american to thinking such foolish,you part of desert dog arabo and terrorist semite filthy blood l see you singing in different melody , l mention you you are nothing couse smply you die out since 2711 yeas ago and you seaking aramic what is this ASSyrian any nation have his own language to named your self ASSyriant hahaha
@punzy7869 ASSyrian were extinction for long time ago they all now in hell how American become your brother you samite and they aryan! and whats reltion between ASSyrian &american to thinking such foolish,you part of desert dog arabo and terrorist semite filthy blood l see you singing in different melody.l mention you you are nothing couse smply you die out since 2711 yeas ago and you seaking aramic what is this ASSyrian any nation have his own language to named your self ASSyriant extinction
in deed any kurdish must reading his great and ancient history starting in Shanede cave ( BRADOST HUMAN) 50000 YEAR TO ( SHERNAOKH( NOAH CITY)noah flood TO ( GARMO VILLAGE) 7000 BC year old to NUZI 3000 BC to hittite empire greatest empir in i1500 BC ,But what was Alasurien Dwarf they same colonial in him empire and remeber us lion of babylon indeed lion is hittite and the man who lie in its foot is babylion man eilamet and greatset medes empire whom they clean middeast from evil andmisjadge
As a Turk, I totally support your liberty. Kurdish people suffered a lot. I only wish we could have a peaceful agreement without all these fight but I know how authoritarian Turkish governments have always been.
@PkkFreedomFighter2 We are the first iranian/aryan. Iran were created by Media. We are Aryan/Iranian, but kurds means own nation with everything decides by our indepedence as nation, soon our native homeland will belong to under our indepence Kurdistan/Newroz. Newroz is our nationalday.Iran means not a one nation, it's mean aryan nations. I don't hate aryans, but I hate semitic and mongolic peoples and their blood. I support defence for all aryans.I like to see arabs and turks became killed 100%
@PkkFreedomFighter2 Aryan/Iran is same blood of us, just diffrent culture and everything without the blood we descdend from same family of father and mom with diffrent houses. We have diffrent houses away from the other iranian brothers, but the base of blood is same. Arabs have same root of semitic blod with assyrians while azeris with mongol blood, Iranian azeris are 100% kurds by DNA, just the turks forced them became under fake turkish faith, iranian azeris are lost!! Death to turkish blood!
Nice film. I agree that it is a matter of time, and Kurdistan is going to get independent.
I just don't agree that Kurd were forcibly converted to Islam. Well some of them may be but not all. History doesn't record any major battle in Kurdistan after the fall of the Sassanian kingdom, and the killing of the king Kisra by his own guards.
Most Kurd converted to Islam after their leaders made an agreement with the Khalifas representative who promissed that no Arab tribes will settle in Kurdistan.
@kurdski1 Darius I (the Persian devil King) says: the last revolt of Medes, was located in Erbila (Hewler), I defeated them, the revol of Erbila was the last Median revolt. where is Erbil? Erbil doesnt lie in IRAN but in Heartlands of North Mesopotamia!. the Victory of Darius I is written in 3 languages on Bestum mound in Kermanshah (a historical big Kurdish city in Iran). During that anciet Time the king calls Erbil=Land o Medes!(North Mesopotamia)= it mean TIGRIS EAT POOOO East Muhamad's poo
Kurds of Northern Iraq circumcise their daughters when they 6-7 years old... There is nothing to respect them.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz fuck kurdish in north more respect than you and your ancestor idioot may you dont recognize kurdistan from yemen ,all UN ORGANIZATION work in kurdistan and they free for writting report about any violation of human right so fuck off aand eat bullshit,stupid like you dont seen kurdistan and they live more better than you where you living ,there are marriage age low , how idiot like you talking without seen kurdistan,the kurdish girl have all right to marry more any other country
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
In Iraq The kurds circumcise their female kids (6-7 years old girls), in the Turkish Kurdistan the Kurds live like animals but they live better than the ones living in Kurdistan... At least it is forbidden to circumcise the women and to murder kids raped to honour the family due to Kurdish traditions.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
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@AgartaliVaiz fuckoff, in kurdistan more respect than you and your ancestor idioot may you dont recognize kurdistan from yemen ,all UN ORGANIZATION work in kurdistan and they free for writting report about any violation of human right so fuck off aand eat bullshit,stupid like you dont seen kurdistan and they live more better than you where you living ,there are marriage age low , how idiot like you talking without seen kurdistan,the kurdish girl have all right to marry more any other country
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz ok when your sister fucking dont kill her , l will gave nice gift late your family fuck in and honourable for you . idiot its lslam low and jewish low and you free for fucking your sister hahaha
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
You also admit that the primitive Islamic laws are your culture and you are very proud of it.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz of course i am part off socity ,we have our cultuer as well as lslamic frligion ,you idiot lol passage long time it effect to tration and cultuer , here l dont want talking in religion cause l thing religion and believes is persoal property evry one free to what he believes but in general you can't song out of herd, so idiot like you try to defeat from subject of history to socities which is other thing , the kurd participate with other nation , which not necessary you like ornot
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
You just have primitive Islamic culture. You circumcise little girls, you stone people to death, you cut hands and feet, you marry to your cousins etc. This is the Islam, this is the Kurdish culture...
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz -oldest swastika in a site near Samarra in central Iraq(Hassuna culture), hurrian city
-oldest aryan texts in Kurdistan ( northern Syria)
-oldest wheels and carts found in near eastin Kurdistan (northernSyria)
-the similarities of the halaf iculture with the indic culture
-the huge stuff written in Gamkrelidze&Ivanov's book about proto iranonessic/indo-european homeland being in southeastern Anatolia north Kurdistan
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
But you should know that the Turks support your independence since noone wants to live with you anymore. Take your mountains...
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz fuck off again turk first kurdish enemy and you second enemy eat bullshit we kate our kurdistan historican kurdistan (Interestingly, enough the first texts of aryan were not found in India but in Kurdistan( northern Syria.)
Also the archeological founds in the Halaf culture of Kurdistan (northern Syria) shares similarities with indian ones.
We have also the mitanni language, which is a very archaic indo-iranian language(older and more archaic than old avestan
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
Kurdish homeland is Zagros mountains in Iran. You don't have any historical records; Your only culture is primitive Shariah law, Persian language that you speak with a terrible accent and zilghit which was invented by Africans.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz idiot ASSyrian ASShole you illiterate cause you dont knnnow what mean Zagros plateau which stretch from Humiz sound to Azerbijan and from meddeternian sea to caspan sea &east tiger river & to babylion that all know Zagros-turus system,so you eat bullshit , Interestingly,enough the first texts of aryan were not found in India but in Kurdistan( northern Syria.) -oldest swastika in a site near Samarra in central Iraq(Hassuna culture), hurrian city & even babylion establish by hurrian
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
There is nothing called Zagros plateau; it is Zagros MOUNTAINS. The Greeks are not Turks, whereas the Middle Easterns are not Kurds... That some Kurds live in Syria for the last 5 centuries does not make the ancient peoples of the region Kurdish. You are just the apes of Zagros mountains... That's all...
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz The Mitanni were an Indo-European (Hurrian) people whose kingdom in northern Mesopotamia flourished from about 1600 (Second Intermediate Period) until it was conquered by the Hittite King Suppiluliumas during the reign of Akhenaten. At its peak, the empire stretched from Kirkuk (ancient Arrapkha) and the Zagros mountains in western Iran in the east, through Assyria to the Mediterranean sea in the west. Its center was in the region of the Khabur River,
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
Read Wikipedia, it says Hurris/Mitannis are Caucasians; not Indians...
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
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@AgartaliVaiz l know where l find my history (Mitanni…See also: Indo-Aryan superstrate in MitanniThe earliest written evidence for an Indo-Aryan language is found not in India,but in Kurdistan(northern Syria) in Hittite records regarding one of their neighbors, the Hurrian-speaking Mitanni. In a treaty with the Hittites,the king of Mitanni, after swearing by a series of Hurrian gods, swears by the gods Mitrašil, Uruvanaššil, Indara, and Našatianna, who correspond to the Vedic gods Mitra
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
Stop trying to rob histories of other peoples! You are just Kurds who circumcise small girls and make silly dances, that's all.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz We have also the mitanni language, which is a very archaic indo-iranian language(older and more archaic than old avestan and rigvedic and which according to indo-european linguists forms a fifth independant indo-iranian group-the other 4 branches being eastern iranian,western iranian,dardic and indic).
So we have:
-oldest swastika in a site near Samarra in central Iraq(Hassuna culture), hurrian city
-oldest aryan texts in Kurdistan ( northern Syria)
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
From Wikipedia: Hurrian is an ergative, agglutinative language that, together with Urartian, constitutes the Hurro-Urartian family. I.M. Diakonoff and S. Starostin see similarities between Hurrian and the Northeast Caucasian languages, and thus place it in the Alarodian family.
Which means: Kurds have no relations with the Mitannis. You don't have a history!
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz idiot we have clay tablet in kurdisg , so fuck off (Are you suggesting that the Indo-European homeland is in North-east Anatolia?
If that's the case than how did Indo-Europeans manage to impose their language on people living all the way in Scandinavia, yet they couldn't even get the Semetic speakers to speak I-E , who are just walking distance away from north-east Anatolia.
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
1) You don't have anything written in Kurdish older than 300 years. You don't even have a tombstone written in Kurdish which is older than 100 years.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz fuck off we have oldest 4000 years ago idiot ASSyirian ASShole (The earliest written evidence for an Indo-Aryan language is found not in India,but in Kurdistan(northern Syria) in Hittite records regarding one of their neighbors, the Hurrian-speaking Mitanni. In a treaty with the Hittites,the king of Mitanni, after swearing by a series of Hurrian gods, swears by the gods Mitrašil, Uruvanaššil, Indara, and Našatianna, who correspond to the Vedic gods Mitra) haha found in kurdistan
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
You have no history. Your history is composed of a few centuries based on Islamic laws.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz late you sister fucking all day and night that well done you do and call man for fucking her
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
2) Kurds have nothing to do with the Scandinavians. They don't look like you and they don't like you.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz idiot the guti tibe migration from Zgros in 2millennium BC (Another branch migrated to Europe, where they became variously known as Goths, Gaetonnes, and Getae, inaugurating the well-known Gothic phase of architecture and giving their name to several places such as Jutland and Gotland. Yet another branch migrated to Sumeria, establishing one of the greatest empires in Sumerian history. Denominated Gutian
goran21715 2 weeks ago
Kurdish people are Europeans
.Go to wikipedia and search ethic groups in europe
TheVictoriandolly 3 weeks ago
@TheVictoriandolly,
So, they should leave Middle East and Turkey and settle back in Germany.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@TheVictoriandolly but european belong to kurdiostan homeland of aryan (Evidence dating back to 6300 BC shows that the Hurrian people were among the oldest of Kurdish ancestors to inhabit the mountains of Kurdistan.(Today, the Hurrian name is survived by the present Kurdish region of Hawraman.)
2500 BC:
Indo-European tribes begin migrating in small numbers and settle across the Zagros mountains of Mesopotamia.
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@TheArmenianDream Why did armenia butchered Kurds during 1915-1919 events? Why did ASALA butchered Kurds if you are friends? Why does Kurds claim (suppose to be Armenian land) in their Kurdistan?
Do you believe such bullshit brotherhood?
Regalya 1 month ago
Kurdistan yan na mon
DiamondBlue011 2 months ago
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Kurds come to be early 1600s mentioned as "SMALL" tribe not even tribes.
All the Kurds ancient claims are bullshit easly debatable.
Documentry? Go books.google(dot)com/ngrams/ then search 1 bc until 2010 you'll see some good shit :)
Regalya 2 months ago
Long Live Islam and Kurdistan! We are Salahuddin Ayyubi
SultanOfSwords 2 months ago 2
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the world will pay for what they have done.
billybob1212 3 months ago
the Hurrians are now a full-fledged and fascinating chapter in Mesopotamian history.scientific archeology have made such peoples as the Sumerians, Babylonians,Assyrians,Akkadians &Hittites into familiar names.Caches of tablets up to 5000 years old found in ruins and in tells-the mounds that dot the Fertile Crescent,layered with the remains of successive settlements—have given an ever more complex and more complete picture of the history of early civilizations.that was Hurrian (Khurrite )OR kurdi
goran21715 4 months ago
Who were the Hurrians? We know that they lived during the third millenium, at the same time as the Sumerians in the south and the Semitic Eblaites to the northwest, explains Buccellati. Linguists believe there are connections between the ancient Hurrian language contemporary Georgian. It is possible that the Hurrians emerged from the Caucasus region and crossed into the Anatolian plateau, a region Kelly-Buccellati calls "the outer Fertile Crescent."
goran21715 4 months ago
@goran21715,
If Hurrians are connected to the Georgians the Kurds have no ties with the Hurrians; because Georgians are not Indians (Indos) like Kurds...
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz , the earliest evidence associated to a distinct culture shaped by the inhabitants of the Kurdish mountains is traced during the period of the Halaf Culture (6000BC-5000 BC). Named after the site of Tell Halaf in northeast Syria (today's Syrian Kurdistan), the Halaf Culture was known for its exceptionally sophisticated pottery. Delicately painted and designed, Halaf pottery has been found from Iran to southeast Turkey and it is easily recognizable.
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
Arameans are not Kurdish. You want to make everyone believe that all the ancient peoples were Kurdish. Bad news: None of them is Kurdish.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz we dont want any one to be kurd,but they must prove him aryan a& indo-european to origin sourse the ancient ancestor Hurrian whom they leave clay tablet in kurdish language,if they claim they indo-european the one wat infront him they prove they was khaldi or kurdi,those khaldi was offshoot of hurrian and the risein early of iron age after invasion of ASSyrian evil to region,part off him migration to cuacasian and other stay in region,
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
Hurrians are not Indo European but Caucasian. All your lies are over.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz caucasian are indo-eurpean (Today, the city of Mush in northern Kurdistan is named after Mushku; Mount Ararat is the inheritance of Urartu; the Kurdish tribal association of Zubari is named after Subaru. The extraordinary legacy of the Hurrians to the contemporary Kurdish culture is manifested in mythology, religion, martial art and genetics. Religious symbols are ever present in the Kurdish art, while nearly 65 percent of Kurdish names are of Hurrian descent.
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
Caucasians are not Indo European. They are a different family. Sorry for you; the Hurri tale is over...
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz Some theonyms, proper names and other terminology of the Mitanni exhibit an Indo-Aryan superstrate, suggesting that an Indo-Aryan elite imposed itself over the Hurrian population in the course of the Indo-Aryan expansion.In a treaty between the Hittites and the Mitanni the deities Mitra, Varuna, are invoked. Kikkuli's horse training text (circa 1400 BC) includes technical terms such as aika (eka, one), tera (tri, three), panza (pancha, five), satta (sapta, seven), na (nava, nine),
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
That Kurds speak an Indo European language does not make the Indo Europeans Kurdish. You are just Kurds, a new identity. You are nothing except baby circumciser tribes!
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz idiot kurdistan homland of aryan (Evidence dating back to 6300 BC shows that the Hurrian people were among the oldest of Kurdish ancestors to inhabit the mountains of Kurdistan.(Today, the Hurrian name is survived by the present Kurdish region of Hawraman.)
2500 BC:
Indo-European tribes begin migrating in small numbers and settle across the Zagros mountains of Mesopotamia.
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz Hurrian Kurdistan is dominated by the Indo-European tribes. Although a significant amount of the Hurrian culture remains, the Indo-European language is adopted by the people of Kurdistan. Many ancient civilizations, such as the Assyrians, refer to all the people of Kurdistan as Kardu or Kordu.
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz The Gutians overthrew the Akkadian dynasty, liberating the Sumerians from the Semitic yoke. The attempt by the fanatical Akkadian rulers to suppress the Sumerian language were rolled back, and a Sumerian renaissance occurred under benevolent Gutian rule. Describing the Sumerian revival under the Gutians, Badawy notes, ") marked a decisive phase in the Semitization of Mesopotamia, a process which went on in spite of the renascence of Sumerian under the Gutians (2000 BC)
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz . The very first mention of the Kurds in history was about 3,000 BC, under the name Gutium, as they fought the Summerians(Spieser). Later around 800 BC, the Indo-European Median tribes settled in the Zagros mountain region and coalesced with the Gutiums, and thus the modern Kurds speak from as Aryan language (Morris). The Kurds are mentioned by Xenaphon, a Greek mercenary, as he retreated from Persia with ten thousand men in 401 BC, he says of the Kurds, "T
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz 1.These succeeded over time to change the Hurrian language(s)of the people in Kurdistan,as well as their genetic makeup.
2.Showing 1to 0 of 0 Articles matching 'Hurrian language 'in related articles (Web site)
3.Tadukhipa Tadukhipa, in Hurrian language Tadu-Hepa,was the daughter of Tushratta,king of Mitanni (reigned .(Web site)
4Hurrian language Wikipedia Library Reference Wikipedia Hurrian language This article or section does not cite its references or sources. (Web site)
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
These -That the Hurrians, Hittites, Urartus, Greeks, Persians etc are Kurdish- are Kurdish lies. Kurds are just Kurds... No culture, no history; a bunch of nomads with a primitive Islamic culture who are trying to steal the histories of unrelated peoples of unrelated races... You disgust most of the people, did you know that? YES, YOU KNEW AND KNOW THAT...
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz fuck off extinct ASSyrian the kurd (identifies the Gutians as ancestors of the modern Kurds: "The very first mention of the Kurds in history was about 3,000 BC, under the name Gutium, as they fought the Summerians (Spieser). Later around 800 BC, the Indo-European Median tribes settled in the Zagros mountain region and coalesced with the Gutiums, and thus the modern Kurds speak from as Aryan language (Morris). The Kurds are mentioned by Xenaphon
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
Stop slandering ancient peoples by calling them Kurdish. They are not Kurdish; the modern apes of Zagros mountains are Kurdish!
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz the Mitanni exhibit an Indo-Aryan superstrate, suggesting that an Indo-Aryan elite imposed itself over the Hurrian population in the course of the Indo-Aryan expansionIn a treaty between the Hittites and the Mitanni (between Suppiluliuma and Matiwaza, ca. 1380 BC), the deities Mitra, Varuna, Indra,are invoked. Kikkuli's horse training text (circa 1400 BC) includes technical terms such as aika (eka,one), tera (tri, three),panza (pancha, five), satta (sapta, seven), na (nava, nine),.
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
I don't know but the Kurds do not exhibit an Indo-Aryan culture... You are just primitive Islamic tribes...
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz fuck off you idiot , who are to know or not we like foolish like you ignore and stupid (728 BC:
Revolts by the Median Kurds and Babylonians leads to the fall of the Assyrian Empire.The Median Empire, known as Medya, is established in 728 BC. Zoroastrianism is founded as the religion of Medya. The Medes celebrate the new year (Newroz) at the beginning of Spring after Medya is liberated.Under the rule of Cyaxares in 626 BC, the Median Empire expands.
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz lol maintan this poem (The fall of Nineveh shocked the ancient world. The Jewish prophet Nahum described the Median armies advancing to the city that had once ruled the Near East.
An attacker advances against you, Nineveh. [...]
The shields of his soldiers are red;
the warriors are clad in scarlet.
The metal on the chariots flashes
on the day they are made ready;
the spears of pine are brandished.
The chariots storm through the streets,
rushing back and forth throu
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz Sumerian inscriptions of 2000 BC, as well as early Assyrian inscriptions of a thousand years late,indicate the existence of a people named Kardaka, Kurtie or Guti in the neighbourhood of Lake Van. These are claimed by some authorities to be the ancestors of the modern Kurds, but it is not until Grecian times that certain identification is possible. Herodotus mentions the inhabitants of what is now Bohtan,& Xenophon refers to the Garduchi, possibly an earlier form of the modern name
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz The Gutians were also evidently kin of the Kassites, as Saba Dara notes, "The Babylonian army was eventually defeated by a combined force of Gutium and their kinsmen, the Kashshu (Kas-Pi) or Kassites." (Dara 2000) The Kassites have long been identified as Iranoid.
Moreover, in an entire book, scholar Hennerbichler links the Kurds with the Gutians (Hennerbichler 2004, p.183-184)
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz Not only was Gutium located within the modern Kurdistan.The very name 'Kurd' itself has been viewed by scholars as being merely a corruption of the ancient Iranic word 'Guti'.Thus,Prof. Howorth concurs with the derivation of Kurdistan from Gutium, and identifies the ancient Babylonian term for Kurds,'Khuradi'or'Quradu,'with 'Guti':
"The land of Guti answers in substance,name, to the modern Kurdistan. According to Sayce the name Kurd is derived from the Babylonian quradu,'a warrior
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz The Kurds are a native,people who have lived in the Middle East for thousands of years. Their name derives from the ancient Guti (Guti-Gurti-Kurdi), conquerors of Babylon. They were the Hurrians of Mesopotamia and the Medes of Persian history. Their home covers mountainous regions now part of Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and other countries as well. But the heartland of ancient Gutium, the domain of later autonomous Kurdish mirs, had been in what is now." (Honigman 2003
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz Guti", "Qurti", "Kurtie" oder aehnlich bezeichnet werden und deren Gebiet man "Gutium" oder "Kardaka" nannte. Eine zweite Linie aus dem Gebiet des noerdlichen Zagros und des Taurus fuehrt von diesem "Kardaka" der Sumerer, den armenischen "Beth-Kurdu", den "Khaldern" des ersten Jahrtausend v. Chr. und den durch Xenophons Bericht "Anabasis" beruehmt gewordenen "Karduchen" und ihrem Land zum heutigen armenischen "Kordukh",, Ullstein Frankfurt/Main; Berlin 1991,S.64)" (Telek 2003, p.7)
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz Kirkuk has been a Kurdish city.It is a part of Zagros highlands which is the original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races &tribes In an article published in,Mr.Mustafa Qaradaghi states thatGutium or Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language,which was also spoken by their kin of Lulu,Kassite& Mittani.heir capital city was in and around the town of Kirkuk,named Arrapha"Mazouri 2002
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz We may mention that there is evidence to show that the Mauryas were from the ancient Maṇda empire. Much earlier, we find them named as Muru or Mor by the Egyptians and the scriptures.There, these Mores were called Amuru and Amor or Amorites. CAH mentions that the initial vowel, 'a'the initial vowel 'a' has to be ignored in order to find the correct name of these people and this clearly remains as Mur/Mor. This is the same as the Moor of Europe and the Mor clan of the Jats in India
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz The Chinese were right in stating that the Hiung-nu were a part of the Yue-Che (reads as Guti ) people, and these Guti people had two divisions, the Ta-Yue-Che and the Siao-Yue-Che, exactly corresponding to the Massagetae &Thyssagetae of Herodotus (a classical Greek writer of fifth century BC)meaning the "Great-Jats" & the "Little-Jats" respectively. Almost every tribe of ancient Middle East (West Asia)&Central Asia, is represented among the present day Jats in India.(Dahiya 1980
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
AND NOW you say the Huns were Kurdish! Shame on you parasite!
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz idiot the hun was mongols , real you animal , the kurd (The Kurds are mentioned by Xenaphon, a Greek mercenary, as he retreated from Persia with ten thousand men in 401 BC, he says of the Kurds, "These people, lived in the mountains and were very war-like and not subject to the Persian king. Indeed once a royal army of 120,000 thousand had once invaded their country, and not a man of them came back..(Morris).
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
Noone talks about Kurds. Those people talk about other peoples and you just want to call them "Kurdish". It is just your dreams. As you dream that the Turkic Federations of old times are Kurdish; NO WAY! We were not and are not the neanderthals! Turks are turks and you are just Kurds; nothing more...
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz lol all these history on google write by scholars (Subartu was apparently a polity in Northern Mesopotamia,at the upperTigris,in the general sphere of influence of the Hurrians.Its precise location has not been identified.According to some scholars like Harvard Professor Mehrdad Izady,identifies Subartus with the current Kurdish tribe of Zibaris inhabiting the northern ring around Mosul up to Hakkari i Subartu marked the northern geographical horizon, just as Martu, Elam and Sumer
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
That you talk about some ancient peoples does not make them Kurdish. You have no culture except Sharia law which can never connect you to any culture.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz illiterate the ancient was named country according to tribes name (Evidence dating back to 6300 BC shows that the Hurrian people were among the oldest of Kurdish ancestors to inhabit the mountains of Kurdistan.(Today, the Hurrian name is survived by the present Kurdish region of Hawraman.)
2500 BC:
Indo-European tribes begin migrating in small numbers and settle across the Zagros mountains of Mesopotamia.
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
Which evidence shows that the non Indoeuropean Hurris were the ancestors of Kurds? There is not a single evidence for that which is impossible. You are just Sunni Iranians, that is all. The secterian conflict created the Kurdish people. That is all. You are not connected to any culture. You are only the tribes speaking a primitive Iranian language and living like Bedouins of the 6th century.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz approximately 4300 BC, a new culture, and possibly a new people, came to dominate the mountains: the Hurrians. Of the Hurrians we know much more, and the volume of our knowledge becomes greaterwith time. We know, for example, that the Hurrians spread far and wide into the Zagros-Taurus mountain systems and intruded for a time on the neighboring plains of Mesopotamia and the Iranian Plateau. However, they never expanded far from the mountains
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz the modern Kurdistan, as Easton notes: " Shoa Opulent, the mountain district lying to the north-east of Babylonia, anciently the land of the Guti, or Kuti, the modern Kurdistan. The plain lying between these mountains and the Tigris was called su-Edina, i.e., "the border of the plain." This name was sometimes shortened into Suti and Su, and has been regarded as = Shoa (Eze 23:23). Some think it denotes a place in Babylon. (See PEKOD.)", "Sumerian inscriptions of 2000 BC,
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz The plain lying between these mountains and the Tigris was called su-Edina, i.e., "the border of the plain." This name was sometimes shortened into Suti and Su, Some think it denotes a place in Babylon. (See PEKOD.)" (Easton 1897, entry "Shoa") In this regard, Elphinston notes, "Sumerian inscriptions of 2000 BC, as well as early Assyrian inscriptions of a thousand years later, indicate the existence of a people named Kardaka, Kurtie or Guti in the neighbourhood of Lake Van
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz Xenophon refers to the Garduchi, possibly an earlier form of the modern name. Strabo speaks of the country of Courdueni where Bait Kardu is located by Aramaic sources. The modern form 'Kurdu' first appears in Arabic writings of the ninth century AD with the plural form 'Akrad'." In a similar vein,ationalists feel that they can claim to represent the Median as distinct from the Persian element in the great Iranian immigration about the beginning of the first millenium BC
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz Kurd name derived from Guti
Not only was Gutium located within the modern Kurdistan. The very name 'Kurd' itself has been viewed by scholars as being merely a corruption of the ancient Iranic word 'Guti'. Thus, Prof. Howorth concurs with the derivation of Kurdistan from Gutium, and identifies the ancient Babylonian term for Kurds, 'Khuradi' or 'Quradu,' with 'Guti': "The land of Guti answers in substance, and perhaps also in name, to the modern Kurdistan
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
The name Kurd does not come from Guti. There is thousands of years gap between the Gutis and Kurds.Kurds are just a new race because of secterian fights. Kurds are the Sunni Iranian people. That is all. You all look like Neanderthals; you have no relationships with the ancient peoples.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz illiterate and retard kurd derive from Guti or Khurti or kurdi (Kurd name derived from Guti ,Not only was Gutium located within the modern Kurdistan. The very name 'Kurd' itself has been viewed by scholars as being merely a corruption of the ancient Iranic word 'Guti'. Thus, Prof. Howorth concurs with the derivation of Kurdistan from Gutium, and identifies the ancient Babylonian term for Kurds, 'Khuradi' or 'Quradu,' with 'Guti':
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
Write the evolution of Guti to Kurdi. Fill the thousands years of gap. But you can not... Which means that Kurdi does not come from the Gutis. By the way they were just a loser tribe.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz IGNORE all Zagrors tribe was kin tribes (and the Medes of Persian history. Their home covers mountainous regions now part of Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and other countries as well. But the heartland of ancient Gutium, the domain of later autonomous Kurdish mirs, had been in what is now-- thanks to the British (Honigman 2003)
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
Yeah, you own your existence to the Brits; they created you.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz 8000 years older than pyramids ! Gobekli Tepe, Human's First yet Known Temple in Northern Kurdistan
Gobekli Tepe ( Kurdish: Girê Navokê) is a hilltop sanctuary built on the highest point of an elongated mountain ridge about 15 km northeast of the Kurdish town of Urfa in northern Kurdistan. The site, currently undergoing excavation by German archaeologists,and was erected by hunter-gatherers in the 10th millennium BC (ca 11500 years ago), before the advent of sedentism. .
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
Urfa is not a Kurdish town; it is Arabic and Turkish. Göbekli Tepe is not Kurdish. The name Kurdish is made up in 13th century for the Sunni Iranians. That is all.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz arab like mongols until 7th AD centry was wandering in desert they invasion mesopotamia and fertile crescent , anomal you with your almonds eyes dont see and stupid too ,foolish go learn history , you waked up so later , go read history the arab came to aerafter mongols invasion and massacer mijorty of peoplation of anatolia
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
The Kurds came to the region after the Arabs and Turks. There are no Roman, Armenian and Crusade records mentioning about Kurds. You are the refugees.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz animal l only appear to stupid like you what Harvard write about kurd and kurdistan (Subartu was apparently a polity in Northern Mesopotamia, at the upper Tigris, in the general sphere of influence of the Hurrians. Its precise location has not been identified. According to some scholars like Harvard Professor Mehrdad Izady, identifies Subartus with the current Kurdish tribe of Zibaris inhabiting the northern ring around Mosul up to Hakkari
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
There are no records mentioning Kurds in the region. You just escaped from Iran to the region to avoid secterian persecution! You have no history, you have no culture...
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz lol our ancestor wrote it in 1500BC (the Mitanni exhibit an Indo-Aryan superstrate, suggesting that an Indo-Aryan elite imposed itself over the Hurrian population in the course of the Indo-Aryan expansion.In a treaty between the Hittites & the Mitanni ca.1380 BC), the deities Mitra, Varuna, Indra&Nasatyaare invoked. Kikkuli's horse training text (1400 BC) includes technical terms such as aika (eka, one), tera (tri, three), panza (pancha, five), satta (sapta, seven), na (nava, nine)
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
That you speak a terrible version of Persian does not make Persian and other languages Kurdish. Stop repeating the textes of an Iraqi Kurd.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
You are just thieves trying to steal other peoples' lands and history. You are the bastards who are making up fathers for yourselves.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz you are thieves stole anatolia history which haven't any relation to altaic language , you mongols (the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia.
goran21715 2 weeks ago
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@goran21715,
Turks own Turkey; that is all. We know Greeks and Armenians aren't Turkish but you parasites declare all the non Kurdish peoples Kurdish. This insanity is just the product of that Iraqi Kurdish guy who was sent to Harvard to look like an academician.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
If all those civilisations were Kurdish you would not be the uncivilised monkeys of Middle East, would you?
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz OFF COURSE ONLY MONGOLS STAY DONKEY IN MIDDE EAST (to the Turkic language speakers is thought to have been included in the Xiongnu of Mongoliaknown from historical sources. The Han Dynasty chronicle of the Xiong-nu, included in the Shi Ji, traces a legendary history of them back a thousand years before the Han to a legendary ancestor, Chunwei, a supposed descendant of the Chinese rulers of the Xia Dynasty. He lived among the "Mountain Barbarians"
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
That we were the barbarians for antic China does not change the fact that Kurds are the cultureless, historiless shariah monkeys of Middle East.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz you mongols of barbarian mountian little mongols(the Turkic language speakers is thought to have been included in the Xiongnu of Mongolia known from historical sources. The Han Dynasty chronicle of the Xiong-nu, included in the Shi Ji, traces a legendary history of them back a thousand years before the Han to a legendary ancestor, Chunwei, a supposed descendant of the Chinese rulers of the Xia Dynasty.He lived among the "Mountain Barbarians
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz mongols you thought all they in 1 century it kate time more 7000 years and all sme peoples the different of name cause the tibes hom fall and ther rose , Mr. Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Gutium or Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language, which was also spoken by their kin of Subartu, Lulu, Kassite, and Mittani. Their capital city was in and around the town of Kirkuk, named Arrapha."
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
There is nothing sth like "Ancient" Kurds. Kurds are not related to any ancient people in the history. You are the historiless monkeys who want to steal histories and lands of others.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz The Kurds are mentioned by Xenaphon, a Greek mercenary, as he retreated from Persia with ten thousand men in 401 BC, he says of the Kurds, "These people, lived in the mountains and were very war-like and not subject to the Persian king. Indeed once a royal army of 120,000 thousand had once invaded their country, and not a man of them came back..(Morris)." (Jensen 1996) Ancient Gutium was located within the modern Kurdistan,
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz identifies the Gutians as ancestors of the modern Kurds: "The thirty million Kurds of the Middle East have lived in Kurdistan before record of modern history was kept. The very first mention of the Kurds in history was about 3,000 BC, under the name Gutium, as they fought the Summerians (Spieser). Later around 800 BC, the Indo-European Median tribes settled in the Zagros mountain region and coalesced with the Gutiums, and thus the modern Kurds speak from as Aryan language
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz The plain lying between these mountains and the Tigris was called su-Edina, i.e., "the border of the plain." This name was sometimes shortened into Suti and Su, and has been regarded as = Shoa (Eze 23:23). Some think it denotes a place in Babylon. (See PEKOD.)""Sumerian inscriptions of 2000 BC, as well as early Assyrian inscriptions of a thousand years later, indicate the existence of a people named Kardaka, Kurtie or Guti in the neighbourhood of Lake Van
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz Evidence dating back to 6300 BC shows that the Hurrian people were among the oldest of Kurdish ancestors to inhabit the mountains of Kurdistan.(Today, the Hurrian name is survived by the present Kurdish region of Hawraman.)
2500 BC:
Indo-European tribes begin migrating in small numbers and settle across the Zagros mountains of Mesopotamia.
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
And the books written by Iraqi Kurds can never be evidences for those disgusting lies.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz Subartu was apparently a polity in Northern Mesopotamia, at the upper Tigris, in the general sphere of influence of the Hurrians. Its precise location has not been identified. According to some scholars like Harvard Professor Mehrdad Izady, identifies Subartus with the current Kurdish tribe of Zibaris inhabiting the northern ring around Mosul up to Hakkari From the point of view of the Akkadian Empire, Subartu marked the northern geographical horizon, just as Martu, Elam and Sumer
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz the earliest evidence associated to a distinct culture shaped by the inhabitants of the Kurdish mountains is traced during the period of the Halaf Culture (6000BC-5000 BC). Named after the site of Tell Halaf in northeast Syria (today's Syrian Kurdistan), the Halaf Culture was known for its exceptionally sophisticated pottery. Delicately painted and designed, Halaf pottery has been found from Iran to southeast Turkey and it is easily recognizable.
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz In regards to whether Halaf Culture is original homeland of the Kurdsarchaeologists point out that shared pottery is an effective method to classify prehistoric cultures in the Middle E.By determining the boundaries of Halaf Culture,archaeologists are almost certain that they match with the geographical area that modern Kurds consider their homeland: from Afrin to Lake Van&from Kirmanshah to Adyaman.Besides,it is highly unlikely that the inhabitants of HalafCulture were immigrants
goran21715 2 weeks ago
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@goran21715,
You are still talking about other peoples. They have nothing to do with you. Your homeland is Zagros mountains. That you infested Middle East like rats does not make Middle East and Anatolia your homeland. You are just the immigrants. That is all.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
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@goran21715,
Before giving the names of others peoples just search those peoples and culture in Wikipedia. NONE of them mentions anyhing about Kurds. You are pathetic.You are rats who are making up stories to steal the lands of the peoples in whose countries you are living now! Shame on you! You are an ugly race, a cultureless and historiless people, thieves, criminals and traitors of Middle East. And you are the source of Islamic backwardness in the region.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz lol Subartu was apparently a polity in Northern Mesopotamia,at the upper Tigris,in the general sphere of influence of the Hurrians.Its precise location has not been identified.According to some scholars like Harvard Professor Mehrdad Izady,identifies Subartus with the current Kurdish tribe of Zibaris inhabiting the northern ring around Mosul up to Hakkari From the point of view of the Akkadian Empire,Subartu marked the northern geographical horizon,just as Martu,Elam &Sumer
goran21715 2 weeks ago
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@goran21715,
"Harvard Professor Mehrdad Izady" is an Iraqi Kurdish man who is writing about Kurdish lies.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
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@goran21715,
Some scholars (All Kurds) identify everything Kurdish. What does that mean? That means there is sth wrong in it. Zagros tribesmen of 16th century have nothing common with the Sumers, Elam, Martu and any other civilisations who live thousands years ago! The civilisations of Mesopotamia are not even Indo European you moron!
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz in german sourse(Die Bezeichnung Šubartu findet sich auch in den Amarna-Briefen und als Šbr in Ugarit. Nur einmal (BM 121057, 123532A) findet sich in assyrischen Inschriften die Schreibung mâtsu-bar-te[1]. Millard wertet dies als Beleg für babylonischen Einfluss und will die Tafel in die Regierungszeit von Tukulti-Ninurta I. oder Tiglat-pileser I. setzen.
Die Sprache von Subartu wird auf akkadisch als SuKI/SU.BIR4AKI (aus Šubartu) bezeichnet.
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz nice appear yopu document to prove that mongols illiterate , The earliest written evidence for an Indo-Aryan language is found not in India,but in Kurdistan(northern Syria) in Hittite records regarding one of their neighbors, the Hurrian-speaking Mitanni. In a treaty with the Hittites,the king of Mitanni, after swearing by a series of Hurrian gods, swears by the gods Mitrašil, Uruvanaššil, Indara, and Našatianna, who correspond to the Vedic gods Mitra
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
Mehrdad Izady is an Iraqi Kurd who tries to make up a history for the monkeys of Middle East. Whatever he says is composed of lies. You are descendants of nobody.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
You have no culture, no ties and no history but lots of lords who own you and shariah law.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
@goran21715,
The fact that you repeat the history of ancient civilisations and calling them Kurdish does not make them Kurdish. It is their history; you can not steal others' histories.
AgartaliVaiz 2 weeks ago
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@AgartaliVaiz nice appear yopu document to prove that mongols illiterate , The earliest written evidence for an Indo-Aryan language is found not in India,but in Kurdistan(northern Syria) in Hittite records regarding one of their neighbors, the Hurrian-speaking Mitanni. In a treaty with the Hittites,the king of Mitanni, after swearing by a series of Hurrian gods, swears by the gods Mitrašil, Uruvanaššil, Indara, and Našatianna, who correspond to the Vedic gods Mitra
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz Zagros highlands which is the original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races and tribes. In an article published in Kurdistan Times in its issue of winter 1990, Mr. Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language, which was also spoken by their kin of Subartu, Lulu, Kassite, and Mittani. Their capital city was in and around the town of Kirkuk, named Arraph
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz the denomination Gutian included the Iranic Medes as well: "To their very end in the 6th century BC, on the other hand, the Babylonians loosely (and apparently pejoratively) called {al-}most every body who lived in the Zagros-Taurus system a "Guti", including the Medes!" (Izady 1993)
It is thus clear: an overwhelming majority of scholars from different fields of history, anthropology, ethnography and linguistics identify the modern Kurds as descendants of the ancient Gutians
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz the denomination Gutian included the Iranic Medes as well: "To their very end in the 6th century BC, on the other hand, the Babylonians loosely (and apparently pejoratively) called {al-}most every body who lived in the Zagros-Taurus system a "Guti", including the Medes!"(Izady 1993) It is thus clear: an overwhelming majority of scholars from different fields of history, anthropology,ethnography & linguistics identify the modern Kurds as descendants of the ancient Gutians of Sumer
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz , the Babylonians loosely (and apparently pejoratively) called {al-}most every body who lived in the Zagros-Taurus system a "Guti", including the Medes!" (Izady 1993)
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz Prof. Izady holds that the Judikan clan of Kurds are to be specifically identified as the descendants of the Gutians:"12 In the 20th century, many hypotheses have been advanced to connect the name Kurd to that of the ancient Hurrian Guti (Hallo,1971) { 1971 "Gutium",William W. Hallo, RLA iii:708b-720a.}or the "Kardukhoi"of the Greek historian Xenophon (Cawkwell, 1979),none of which can any longer be maintained in light of discovery of the aformentioned Assyrian stele. The name Guti
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz .The name Guti, at any rate,survives today clearly in the name of the Kurdish clan of Judikan,inhabiting the heartland of the ancient Gutis in southeatern Kurdistan. The "Kardukhoi"who come to subsequently be known as the Gordyene to the classical authors,are none other than the predecessors of modern Girdi clan of Kurds who still reside exactly where the ancient Kardukhoi/Godyene were found.The name"Kurti/Kurd"seem likely to be of Aryan origin*one of the first,in fact,in Kurdistan
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz The name "Kurti/Kurd" seem likely to be of Aryan origin *one of the first, in fact, in Kurdistan* instead of the far more common Hurrian clan names encountered at all periods until today and including the Khardukhoi and Guti." (Izady 1993) The name Judikan is clearly merely a variant of "Jat", further cementing the thesis of a close relationship between the Jats and Kurds.
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@AgartaliVaiz In regards to whether Halaf Culture is indeed the original homeland of the Kurds, archaeologists point out that shared pottery is an effective method to classify prehistoric cultures in the Middle East. By determining the boundaries of Halaf Culture, archaeologists are almost certain that they match with the geographical area that modern Kurds consider their homeland: from Afrin to Lake Van and from Kirmanshah to Adyaman. Besides
goran21715 2 weeks ago
Media succeded with assimilation of the empire of Mittani replaced by Hittite and last were Media. I think the median empire were united empires to protecting themself against emmigration around Iran to Caucasus Anatolian part. They were against emmigration and invaders, medes themself invaded land of persia and field. The population inside median empire were descendant of native ancestors from iranian plateu from persian golf to Anatolia I have readed about from books about iranian empires.
91Musicboy 4 months ago
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kürdün tarihi yoktur. fars-arap-ermeni karisimi soysuz, tarihsiz bir kalabaliktir. anayurtlari Sarp daglarinin magralaridir. Sünni olmalari sebebiyle Safevi Kizilbaslilar 1300'lerde bunlari gebertecekken, Osmanli sahip çikmistir. Alevi 'kürtler' kürt degildir, kürtlesmis Türkmenlerdir.
Ergenekonulusu 4 months ago
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The original population area of the Median people was western Iran and named after them as "Media".At the end of the 2nd millennium BC the Median tribes arrived in the region which they later called Media.These tribes expanded their control over larger areas subsequently &over a period of several hundred years the boundaries of Media moved,The geographical name "Media"survives in the Modern Iranian geographical name "Māhīdašt" (lit.“the Median plain,with "Māh < Māda) in the Kermanshah province
goran21715 4 months ago
@TheArmenianDream till the end...
KurdishBeautyUK 5 months ago
The Medes were an people of Indo-Iranian (Aryan) origin who inhabited the western and north-western portion of present-day Iran. By the 6th century BC (prior to the Persian invasion) the Medes were able to establish an empire that stretched from Aran (the modern-day Republic of Azerbaijan) to Central Asia and Afghanistan. Today's population of the western part of the Iranian Plateau (including many Persian-speakers, Kurds consider themselves to be descended from the ancient Medes.
goran21715 5 months ago
the northern frontiers of Babylonia and later established the second Babylonian dynasty. Chronicles and king lists are imprecise, and although the Kassite kings traditionally ruled over Babylonia for 576 years, it is probable that the first Kassite(Ka-spi) kings reigned in Babylonia simultaneously with the last kings of the first Babylonian dynasty; thus Gandash, the first Kassite (Ka-spi) king, possibly began his reign about the middle of the 18th century Bc, but not at Babylon.
goran21715 5 months ago
The fall of Nineveh shocked the ancient world. The Jewish prophet Nahum described the Median armies advancing to the city that had once ruled the Near East.
An attacker advances against you, Nineveh. [...]
The shields of his soldiers are red;
the warriors are clad in scarlet.
The metal on the chariots flashes
on the day they are made ready;
the spears of pine are brandished.
The chariots storm through the streets,
rushing back and forth through the squares
goran21715 5 months ago
Mahabad is believed to be a pre-Zoroastrian Prophet and may be an alternative name for Adam. He is also called "Azar Hooshang" (the Fire of Wisdom).
He was the first of fifteen successive prophets, the thirteenth of whom was Zoroaster and the last was Sasan, from whom the Sassanid Dynasty may be supposed to trace their descent. Their writings are said to be collected in the Dasatir-i-Asmani.
The Paiman-i-Farhang (Excellent Covenant) is Mahabads code of laws
goran21715 7 months ago
fuck all turk,persian,arap and fucking asyrian long live kurdistan
peywend 7 months ago
The plain in which Hajji Firuz Tepe is located lies in the northwestern part of the Zagros Mountains .The Gadar River flows through it toward the east to eventually end in marshes bordering Lake Urmia winemaking is best understood as an intentional human activity rather than a seasonal happenstance, then the Neolithic period (8500-4000 B.C.) is the first time in human prehistory when the necessary preconditions for this momentous innovation came together.where you ASSyrian in that time?
goran21715 7 months ago
@TheArmenianDream sorry dude but u took a samll part of ours land 2
warriorofkurdistan 8 months ago
Elamite and Mesopotamia are descended from Zagros Mountains and down looked from north to south, the first settlements of agricultural discoveries are of the village of Jarmo means warm in the ridge east of Kirkuk in the seventh millennium BCand later comes the city of Nuzi in the third millennium BC,it stole the Tigris and dust to the west of the Tigris is Hassouna village and village Agirgav Kurdish word meaning flame of fire west of bagadad then to south (kadingra)babylon mean burn storg hay
goran21715 9 months ago
LONG LIVE ASSYRIAN KURDS DUNKY FUCKERS
punzy7869 9 months ago
@punzy7869 you donkey and foolish where ASSyrian talk about they die out since 2711 years ago appear you forget these lions who destroyed evil empire in 612 B.C l tald you they die out couse based of nation is language and your language die out in that great fall , you use religion language (aramic) its shame to say we nation or saying ASSyrian ,actually you inttering to mesopotamia as invasion and you went away like any invasion in history and you barking to doomsday its not useful
goran21715 9 months ago
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@punzy7869 ASSyrian were extinction for long time ago they all now in hell how American become your brother you samite and they aryan! and whats reltion between ASSyrian and american to thinking such foolish,you part of desert dog arabo and terrorist semite filthy blood l see you singing in different melody , l mention you you are nothing couse smply you die out since 2711 yeas ago and you seaking aramic what is this ASSyrian any nation have his own language to named your self ASSyriant
goran21715 8 months ago
@punzy7869 ASSyrian were extinction for long time ago they all now in hell how American become your brother you samite and they aryan! and whats reltion between ASSyrian and american to thinking such foolish,you part of desert dog arabo and terrorist semite filthy blood l see you singing in different melody , l mention you you are nothing couse smply you die out since 2711 yeas ago and you seaking aramic what is this ASSyrian any nation have his own language to named your self ASSyriant hahaha
goran21715 8 months ago
@punzy7869 ASSyrian were extinction for long time ago they all now in hell how American become your brother you samite and they aryan! and whats reltion between ASSyrian &american to thinking such foolish,you part of desert dog arabo and terrorist semite filthy blood l see you singing in different melody.l mention you you are nothing couse smply you die out since 2711 yeas ago and you seaking aramic what is this ASSyrian any nation have his own language to named your self ASSyriant extinction
goran21715 8 months ago
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in deed any kurdish must reading his great and ancient history starting in Shanede cave ( BRADOST HUMAN) 50000 YEAR TO ( SHERNAOKH( NOAH CITY)noah flood TO ( GARMO VILLAGE) 7000 BC year old to NUZI 3000 BC to hittite empire greatest empir in i1500 BC ,But what was Alasurien Dwarf they same colonial in him empire and remeber us lion of babylon indeed lion is hittite and the man who lie in its foot is babylion man eilamet and greatset medes empire whom they clean middeast from evil andmisjadge
goran21715 10 months ago
As a Turk, I totally support your liberty. Kurdish people suffered a lot. I only wish we could have a peaceful agreement without all these fight but I know how authoritarian Turkish governments have always been.
cihancil 10 months ago 8
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Ergenekonulusu 4 months ago
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@cihancil , hassiktir lan piç . Güya Türkmüs.. At yalanini sikeyim inanani.
Ergenekonulusu 4 months ago
Long live Kurdistan
LOVE KURDISTAN
Kurdistan20091 1 year ago
great video kurds will be having there state sooner or later it has started from the south already
Alan131281 1 year ago
in turkgay 30 mil.kurds! in "iran" 10 mill. in autonmous kurdistan region 7 mil. in "syria" 3 mil.
fuck turkgay iran iraq syria terorists
we are median we are aryan (aryan is not folk),we are kurds. we are not iranian ,not arab not turk,we are only kurds!
we habe iraq back =autonomous kurdistan
other parts of kurdistan cooming son!
PkkFreedomFighter2 1 year ago
@PkkFreedomFighter2 We are the first iranian/aryan. Iran were created by Media. We are Aryan/Iranian, but kurds means own nation with everything decides by our indepedence as nation, soon our native homeland will belong to under our indepence Kurdistan/Newroz. Newroz is our nationalday.Iran means not a one nation, it's mean aryan nations. I don't hate aryans, but I hate semitic and mongolic peoples and their blood. I support defence for all aryans.I like to see arabs and turks became killed 100%
1Azadman 1 year ago
@1Azadman word iran is not a nation word word iran is a area word.
so we are not iranian folk ,we are kurdish folk.people.
i love persian people. free Iran .
ahmedinejads regime down!
PkkFreedomFighter2 1 year ago
@PkkFreedomFighter2 Aryan/Iran is same blood of us, just diffrent culture and everything without the blood we descdend from same family of father and mom with diffrent houses. We have diffrent houses away from the other iranian brothers, but the base of blood is same. Arabs have same root of semitic blod with assyrians while azeris with mongol blood, Iranian azeris are 100% kurds by DNA, just the turks forced them became under fake turkish faith, iranian azeris are lost!! Death to turkish blood!
1Azadman 1 year ago
Nice film. I agree that it is a matter of time, and Kurdistan is going to get independent.
I just don't agree that Kurd were forcibly converted to Islam. Well some of them may be but not all. History doesn't record any major battle in Kurdistan after the fall of the Sassanian kingdom, and the killing of the king Kisra by his own guards.
Most Kurd converted to Islam after their leaders made an agreement with the Khalifas representative who promissed that no Arab tribes will settle in Kurdistan.
Urarto 1 year ago
Biji Mongolia!
SirianKings 1 year ago
@SirianKings death for mogolic ( caw pan) meaning face flat and other meaning l cann't say in common ad
goran21715 10 months ago
@kurdski1 Darius I (the Persian devil King) says: the last revolt of Medes, was located in Erbila (Hewler), I defeated them, the revol of Erbila was the last Median revolt. where is Erbil? Erbil doesnt lie in IRAN but in Heartlands of North Mesopotamia!. the Victory of Darius I is written in 3 languages on Bestum mound in Kermanshah (a historical big Kurdish city in Iran). During that anciet Time the king calls Erbil=Land o Medes!(North Mesopotamia)= it mean TIGRIS EAT POOOO East Muhamad's poo
xSouthxKURDISTAN 1 year ago