Do you have your bottom three fingers holding onto the bat with the digit just below the fingernail and the index finger pointing nearly straight up instead of to the side?
Very helpful, have watched dozens of Ma Lin and Timo Boll matches. Always wondered what the heck is going on with their serves. This is the first time I can actually see what they are doing. Now I know exactly what to practice. Thanks!
U guys are idiots. You can't expect to do those serves like a professional in the first place. Yes it may look slow and lack spin but when you become good enough to use a decent force on the ball that is when the serves become good. They are very professional serves.
Guyz, how can one maintain composure during games. I felt that even if you're good enough with any drills or strokes if you don't have proper composure, you're nothing. Like myself, i tend to be in the attack mode all the time which often resulted to lack of controls and miss the points. I'm over excited with every shot. Sometimes my hand hesitates to strike even if it's clear to attack especially on the slow ball. Please help. Any advice or training that could improve your composure? Thanks!!!
@wayno3785 Well, obviously it's a little difficult for you to imagine, but if you are right-handed you simply change your position to the other side of the table!
the ball "wants" to go where the opponent's paddle ended. So if his paddle ended to his right, you could aim to the left to compensate.
One thing though. If you counter the serve with a topspin, you won't notice the sidespin as much. So my advice is: return it with topspin, unless you're a defence player.
depends on what side he'll sidespin. First just let it bounce, watch what side it'll go from you, (ex. right side) next time steer to the left, it'll go straight :)
whats not legal about that! the only thing is he=is palm is not totally flat. he serves the ball behind the white line and he throws it up more than 6 inches so i dont see a problem.
No, in some of his services, his right arm remains in a virtual pyramid between ball and net plane. He should remove his right arm from this pyramid. It is not legal to serve so the ball flies between throwing arm and table.
@G309 Do not matter with bad criticisms. I like your vid, but I do not understand english, I know how to write a but when I hear I understand just a little, so I try to understand by watching. Thanks for posting the video.
Actually the guy is good but hes kinda stupid! The only reason I say this is that if you make a "professional coaching video" You should edit your mistakes because you will look real stupid teaching something that seems like you cant do yourself. Thats the the only thing wrong with this. Otherwise good job!
For those that comment that he missed the reverse pendulum serve, my gosh... have you ever coached? Do you understand that when you're not in the middle of the game and are talking for several minutes at a time, and then trying to serve, you have no rythym and no timing? There's no feel for the ball because you haven't been playing. This is why players warm up before a match... to get a feel for the ball.
Thanks for the tips. But I found reverse pendulum is difficult to serve (no offence, but u also missed twice). besides, if I do that there is lack of spin and most importantly - how can I disguise it? Because the raquet will now swing in the opposite direction (outwards). Any suggestion?
U guys are idiots. You can't expect to do those serves like a professional in the first place. Yes it may look slow and lack spin but when you become good enough to use a decent force on the ball that is when the serves become good. They are very professional serves.
Apparently, there are so many experts here who only have negative comments. If that is what you think, go watch the pros of this world, instead of videos like these. I am a recreational player, who is starting to love the game and videos like these allow me to learn new skills and improve my game. When I do watch the pros, they move too fast and I don't learn. So, thank you! Keep it up! There are many of us in this situation and find such videos very helpful. And the best part - They're FREE!
Wow, you people are harsh critics, anyways its hard to judge a serve without returning it, secondly he was exaggerating the motions to teach the game. Very instrucitve. Thankyou.
Yes, you may say so. I humbly grovel and apologise for wasting everybody's time by daring to post this 4 minutes of pathetic serving. I don't know what I was thinking... ;)
The only noticable spin on the services that he did was the reverse pendulum one. But even then it was a bit high for a good serve..... and no offence, but those other serves were a bit too high, lack of spin, and thus kinda pathetic. Sorry about that, but if you want to see proper serves or learn any, the best thing is to watch the pros. Check out Ma Lin, Waldner, Schlager and Wang Liqin.
He is serving illegally. You are supposed to hold the ball flat in your hand, not with your hand cupped. Also, I'm kind of dubious as to whether his hand was always behind the end line when he threw the ball up.
The video is from 2004. You are correct about holding the ball in your open palm. Dunno about whether Mark had the ball behind the endline (which he should have), but I doubt he was paying much attention to that at the time, as he was busy explaining stuff.
Maybe you're right, but there are people who would watch this video and copy exactly what he did. If so, they may be penalised in a game later in life for something they didn't know was wrong because they saw a 'professional' do it...
True. But holding the palm flat and moving it behind the table wouldn't be a big adjustment. And if they copied everything else too, they could do worse!
When all else fails, read the rules - if they would just stop changing the darn service rules!
to be honest, the ball doesn't seem to be spinning very fast, except for the serve that hit the net the first two times. i think during a match he performs serves much more dynamically, because it doesn't seem a problem to return THESE serves
probably, but what's more important is that the ball comes back to where you want. anyway have you ever seen that a pro tabletennis player like ma lin missed up to 5 serves that came from his opponent? probably not because they know what to do with any kind of serves
A regular opponent of mine in England from a couple of years back... top 20 ranked English player. And those serves are VERY awkward in a real situation! He's simplifying for the guys he's coaching. Unless your a very good player, these serves - performed correctly in a match condition and not practice demonstrations - work very very well for him!
uhm maybe im not paying enough attention, but this guy looks like he totally suck at table tennis, anyway, wehen I perform this serve as sharp as possible, just behind the net so the oppenent must duck al to his fourhand side to return it
umm maybe its just because i dont play 24/7 (ie heaps) that i dont see how serving from the side of the table is helpful, no matter what spin you do.
This guy i versed does a similar serve from the side as he does and a simple return to the opposite corner would normally do it, and if not wold at least put him off balance.
my friend plays with a crazy style he jumps and does a 180 with his waiste and throws a sick bite on the ball but its not a type of spin that affects how your shot out come is hes an extreme offensive i usually just loop that ball back at him ha nice vid
Could you make a spanish subtitles?
RatBikerHorde 1 week ago
i think your hand should be flat when you lift it for the serve
khoddah 2 months ago
Everything is good but like someone is the right manual?
BillKillTM 2 months ago
nice tutorial :)
Peachb0x 4 months ago
Good Video, thanks!
SthlmFARSTASTRAND 8 months ago
Do you have your bottom three fingers holding onto the bat with the digit just below the fingernail and the index finger pointing nearly straight up instead of to the side?
genemarinacci 9 months ago
nic video, i like the serves
rahul2371996 11 months ago
excellent video, helped me lots!
poe645 11 months ago
What type of bat do you use?
starkiller8888 11 months ago
best explanation for serve, thank you
TaciTiciBoy 1 year ago 5
nice explain!!
you look like john cena, you know?
xXAmkiraXx 1 year ago
Are you speaking english? I don't understand a word... like your vid though. Thanks.
daloe100 1 year ago
Very helpful, have watched dozens of Ma Lin and Timo Boll matches. Always wondered what the heck is going on with their serves. This is the first time I can actually see what they are doing. Now I know exactly what to practice. Thanks!
roblevin7 1 year ago
Thanks mate! Useful information.
InsaneMonkey7 1 year ago
excellent!!!
mistrydipakvasu 1 year ago
I like the shorts.
brownstown18 1 year ago
U guys are idiots. You can't expect to do those serves like a professional in the first place. Yes it may look slow and lack spin but when you become good enough to use a decent force on the ball that is when the serves become good. They are very professional serves.
offpoker 1 year ago
he got pwned 1:52
victorcoolboy2008 1 year ago
Guyz, how can one maintain composure during games. I felt that even if you're good enough with any drills or strokes if you don't have proper composure, you're nothing. Like myself, i tend to be in the attack mode all the time which often resulted to lack of controls and miss the points. I'm over excited with every shot. Sometimes my hand hesitates to strike even if it's clear to attack especially on the slow ball. Please help. Any advice or training that could improve your composure? Thanks!!!
criticaltinker 1 year ago
G309 u going to make any new vids on serves
treexps 1 year ago
when u serve u serve wrong
TheDragon848 1 year ago
Thank you!
LMProductions09 2 years ago
Thank you
Kiwi81supporter 2 years ago
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thatsjstgreatpingpng 2 years ago
Can you add subtitles in French?. Thank you
TAPADAKA1318 2 years ago 2
Well, I don't speak French, so unless we have a French speaker willing to do a translation for me, I think it would be unlikely to happen.
G309 2 years ago 6
@G309
It does not matter .. . Thank you anyway :)
TAPADAKA1318 2 years ago 2
@G309
Can you add russian subtitles?. Thank you
bboybram 3 months ago
@bboybram If someone is willing to supply the Russian translation, I'd be willing to put up the video with subtitles.
G309 3 months ago
@G309 How about ancient latin subtitles?
xkoenigseggx 3 months ago
@xkoenigseggx veni, vidi, vici ;)
G309 3 months ago
@TAPADAKA1318 just take some english lessons , it's not that hard to understand though.
K05TJ4 1 year ago
Finally a video revealing in clear language all the different serves. This is what I need to convince my 7-year old boys. Thank you very much.
Rygmarv 2 years ago 3
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wayno3785 2 years ago
/facepalm
G309 2 years ago
@wayno3785 Well, obviously it's a little difficult for you to imagine, but if you are right-handed you simply change your position to the other side of the table!
NonfoX 2 years ago
thats cuz its a fisherprice table.
blue090790 2 years ago 2
That guy looks extremely tall for the table
Sanzeron 2 years ago
lmao, he throws the ball on the ground like it's tennis
sbslusher 2 years ago
if my opponent makes a sidespin serve and follows through to his right, which direction should i aim the tip of my paddle to return it?
enemie55 2 years ago
the ball "wants" to go where the opponent's paddle ended. So if his paddle ended to his right, you could aim to the left to compensate.
One thing though. If you counter the serve with a topspin, you won't notice the sidespin as much. So my advice is: return it with topspin, unless you're a defence player.
blaatieblaatie11 2 years ago
depends on what side he'll sidespin. First just let it bounce, watch what side it'll go from you, (ex. right side) next time steer to the left, it'll go straight :)
olliebolllie 2 years ago
When receiving sidespin it is easiest to aim to where the the ball is spinning. ie: They serve so it hooks to your left, so you aim to your left.
amount18 2 years ago
2:01 is pretty nasty
gdani111 2 years ago
the serve is too long at 2.01
zxczxcization 2 years ago
do u ha e to server like that??
willanater70 2 years ago
thanks for this video, i'm sure my skills will improve
dummy00100 2 years ago
lol mine to m8
69mikki69 2 years ago
It is great to see former top players trying to help others out. Thank god for the internet.
oosasports 2 years ago
amen lol
69mikki69 2 years ago
there is nothing wrong about grip
or anything
just a very good serve
AndyJ7007 2 years ago
whats not legal about that! the only thing is he=is palm is not totally flat. he serves the ball behind the white line and he throws it up more than 6 inches so i dont see a problem.
louini 2 years ago
ah Mark, this guy used to coach me, made me a table tennis bat with some of his old grips
hatherhead 2 years ago
lol the W.A.T.T.A 's on youtube/internet
:o
l0ngv0 2 years ago
very easy lol i was expecting a great advanced serv
XBOX360BANDIT1992 2 years ago
he is using chinese style
rsx521 2 years ago
Thats bull crap he serves really good, good demonstration for upcoming shakehand players.
PreppyPoser1 2 years ago
this guy should not be teaching because
he is not serving legal and he dose not have
the right grip and dose not have the right form but i think he has watched a lot of videos
and is trying but bad form so not a good
thing to be teaching bad and not legal form
=)
poopidpoopid 2 years ago
everything he did is legal and correct.
jtlebout 2 years ago 4
look at his right arm, that's obviously not correct
6lues6rother 2 years ago
look at his arm, he doesn't retire enough or he even hits the ball under the arm.
6lues6rother 2 years ago
No, in some of his services, his right arm remains in a virtual pyramid between ball and net plane. He should remove his right arm from this pyramid. It is not legal to serve so the ball flies between throwing arm and table.
maracuder 2 years ago 2
bounce more than once on table is a basement rule, not an official rule.
Peridox91 2 years ago
He's the same as Michael Maze :)
barissaracli 2 years ago
You cant be same as a other person.
Winroz666 2 years ago 2
Not if you are twins :))
murko241 2 years ago 2
looks like Michael Maze when he is older.
utahjai 2 years ago
this is good excerpt video from a pendulum serve...congratulations
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contraloop 2 years ago
Oh my God he´s sooo bad :D
alexxxstyle93 2 years ago
im welll betterr
CURT2K9 2 years ago
my serve is better
darthsophia123 2 years ago
he left handed ......
8264393 2 years ago
Absolutely Brilliant. Your explanations are very easy to understand.
elvisar90 2 years ago
thanks, learned alot !!
CBee10 2 years ago
No problem with the serve but it would be useful to demonstrate how to counteract them.
Thanks
g4geetar 2 years ago
what happens if u serve and it hits the very edge of the white line of your opponents side? does it count?
bagsnotdoinit 2 years ago
yes it does unless the white doesnt change its way...
BestBuddy16 2 years ago
Good Basic Instruction, getting this and then spending hours exploring one's own capabilities with the wrist. Speed, angles and touch!
gertfsn 2 years ago
Thanks for this video great demonstration. I found out how to do these serves and also got the reverse pendulum serve.
takithepaki 3 years ago
brilliant demonstration matey, thanks
AdyMarshallsongs 3 years ago
Thanks, very helpful.
powpanda 3 years ago 2
lol ok buddie
kapazaz 3 years ago
sucks
kapazaz 3 years ago
Thanks - constructive criticism is always welcome.
G309 3 years ago 47
@G309 Do not matter with bad criticisms. I like your vid, but I do not understand english, I know how to write a but when I hear I understand just a little, so I try to understand by watching. Thanks for posting the video.
ZeDuBreju 1 year ago
@G309 u r a nice guy
zaphster11 9 months ago
Actually the guy is good but hes kinda stupid! The only reason I say this is that if you make a "professional coaching video" You should edit your mistakes because you will look real stupid teaching something that seems like you cant do yourself. Thats the the only thing wrong with this. Otherwise good job!
wallygreennyc 3 years ago
Mark did the coaching, I did the videoing (I'm Greg).
G309 3 years ago
For those that comment that he missed the reverse pendulum serve, my gosh... have you ever coached? Do you understand that when you're not in the middle of the game and are talking for several minutes at a time, and then trying to serve, you have no rythym and no timing? There's no feel for the ball because you haven't been playing. This is why players warm up before a match... to get a feel for the ball.
NightcruiserMA 3 years ago 10
@NightcruiserMA I agree with what you said! He is teaching not playing, the important thing is that he knows how to teach.
ZeDuBreju 1 year ago
Thanks for the tips. But I found reverse pendulum is difficult to serve (no offence, but u also missed twice). besides, if I do that there is lack of spin and most importantly - how can I disguise it? Because the raquet will now swing in the opposite direction (outwards). Any suggestion?
abed83a 3 years ago
THats for Left Handed Players
ArtCrimes420 3 years ago
right handed can also do it!!!
I got it
takithepaki 3 years ago
U guys are idiots. You can't expect to do those serves like a professional in the first place. Yes it may look slow and lack spin but when you become good enough to use a decent force on the ball that is when the serves become good. They are very professional serves.
MitchKid432 3 years ago
hes supposed to be a coach and cant do that reverse serve
even i can do it
SKull3011 3 years ago
Very helpful thanks for uploading.
SUIreduit 3 years ago
Apparently, there are so many experts here who only have negative comments. If that is what you think, go watch the pros of this world, instead of videos like these. I am a recreational player, who is starting to love the game and videos like these allow me to learn new skills and improve my game. When I do watch the pros, they move too fast and I don't learn. So, thank you! Keep it up! There are many of us in this situation and find such videos very helpful. And the best part - They're FREE!
amossidney 3 years ago 34
the sound is not clear
lol
AlnasserYusif 3 years ago
great coaching video! I'm exiting to test all these services :P
kito88 3 years ago
Wow, you people are harsh critics, anyways its hard to judge a serve without returning it, secondly he was exaggerating the motions to teach the game. Very instrucitve. Thankyou.
CollinsGuitar 3 years ago 2
Sorry, but if I may say so, his serves were quite pathetic. Watch the pros and learn from there. Much more effective.
taufoofar 3 years ago
Yes, you may say so. I humbly grovel and apologise for wasting everybody's time by daring to post this 4 minutes of pathetic serving. I don't know what I was thinking... ;)
G309 3 years ago
Isn't it great when people post constructive criticism.
I think the fact that you are taking the time to provide a service (no pun intended), to help people learn the game and so on, is great.
slytherinsheirx 3 years ago 2
The only noticable spin on the services that he did was the reverse pendulum one. But even then it was a bit high for a good serve..... and no offence, but those other serves were a bit too high, lack of spin, and thus kinda pathetic. Sorry about that, but if you want to see proper serves or learn any, the best thing is to watch the pros. Check out Ma Lin, Waldner, Schlager and Wang Liqin.
taufoofar 3 years ago
NOTHING TO BE LEARNNED..
jhoelchua85 3 years ago
Except how to spell? ;)
G309 3 years ago
rofl!!
doeby333 3 years ago
owned
ollie3003 3 years ago
haha
SkyLineFai 3 years ago
es bueno pero io soy mejor
lonchas314 3 years ago
cool serves!
beardieboy1 3 years ago
wow great vid thx for upload^^
PheonixWing 3 years ago
He is serving illegally. You are supposed to hold the ball flat in your hand, not with your hand cupped. Also, I'm kind of dubious as to whether his hand was always behind the end line when he threw the ball up.
Then again, how old is this video?
fendafish 3 years ago
The video is from 2004. You are correct about holding the ball in your open palm. Dunno about whether Mark had the ball behind the endline (which he should have), but I doubt he was paying much attention to that at the time, as he was busy explaining stuff.
G309 3 years ago
Maybe you're right, but there are people who would watch this video and copy exactly what he did. If so, they may be penalised in a game later in life for something they didn't know was wrong because they saw a 'professional' do it...
d1i2r3t4 3 years ago
True. But holding the palm flat and moving it behind the table wouldn't be a big adjustment. And if they copied everything else too, they could do worse!
When all else fails, read the rules - if they would just stop changing the darn service rules!
G309 3 years ago
great vid
ffxme 3 years ago
He missed a lot, isn't he?
But the important thing is that he is helping some people here...
lhegele 3 years ago 3
to be honest, the ball doesn't seem to be spinning very fast, except for the serve that hit the net the first two times. i think during a match he performs serves much more dynamically, because it doesn't seem a problem to return THESE serves
dhfjal 4 years ago
probably, but what's more important is that the ball comes back to where you want. anyway have you ever seen that a pro tabletennis player like ma lin missed up to 5 serves that came from his opponent? probably not because they know what to do with any kind of serves
eddiesamigos 3 years ago
first time i have seent these videos not bad
bogey4eva 4 years ago
A regular opponent of mine in England from a couple of years back... top 20 ranked English player. And those serves are VERY awkward in a real situation! He's simplifying for the guys he's coaching. Unless your a very good player, these serves - performed correctly in a match condition and not practice demonstrations - work very very well for him!
bassboy8888 4 years ago 2
Good video
but everybody who practice table tennis know's these kind of thing
nortonarazaki 4 years ago
nice shorts my great grandpa has a pair of those
2melo4u 4 years ago 5
Good vid. All of it is correct, people who are criticising should learn more about the sport before opening fire.
The serve at 1:50 is the trickiest one, requires a lot of practice.
Regarding his technical skills, we cannot judge them by this video, anyway you do not have to be an excellent player to be an excellent coach.
Only remark I would make is he should have tucked in his T-shirt (the bat might brush against the shirt and/or get caught).
tutubas 4 years ago
... not even holding the paddle right...
davidwang95 4 years ago
There's no 'right' way to hold it genius, especially not in service.
DarylMcHugh 4 years ago 8
serves u mean
starrett1350 4 years ago
Good enough for Waldner though...
G309 4 years ago
Nice answer, Greg.
bogeyhunter9 4 years ago
that is a weird way of holding.
openmind75 4 years ago
he's holding it right maybe you just don't know much about table tennis
jchua619 4 years ago
uhm maybe im not paying enough attention, but this guy looks like he totally suck at table tennis, anyway, wehen I perform this serve as sharp as possible, just behind the net so the oppenent must duck al to his fourhand side to return it
thegreateye04 4 years ago
um if he sucks I wonder why he is a coach lol
Thanks dude that really helped my serve I still need practice but it curves a lot.
CGproductions12 4 years ago
wow, this guy cant do a reverse sidespin serve
Arvidabc123 4 years ago
i'm in my primary level and i'm part of my school's team and we all know how to do the reverse side spin its not that hard really
jchua619 4 years ago
umm maybe its just because i dont play 24/7 (ie heaps) that i dont see how serving from the side of the table is helpful, no matter what spin you do.
This guy i versed does a similar serve from the side as he does and a simple return to the opposite corner would normally do it, and if not wold at least put him off balance.
MuSiCiAn4LYF 4 years ago
my friend plays with a crazy style he jumps and does a 180 with his waiste and throws a sick bite on the ball but its not a type of spin that affects how your shot out come is hes an extreme offensive i usually just loop that ball back at him ha nice vid
MIXMASTAPWN 4 years ago
thx
Dgoxcore 4 years ago
This was great... hope more vids like this... Interesting... will be trying these.......
DC180 4 years ago
wow, he missed
AllUserNamesTaken111 4 years ago
i ddnt understand his accent u__u
aiban 4 years ago
the forehand inverted serve is by far the most hard to perform. A lot of practice is neccesary!
grinbergcolastra 4 years ago
Great Video! Really enjoyed it, it'll helo me out a lot, if you have any other how-to videos could you send them to me?
Ndkkev 4 years ago
This was helpful!
Ndkkev 5 years ago