i agree with lazur1, highly coordinated/unstable movements transfer well to raw strength with a stable barbell or machine not so much vice versa, so being a bodybuilder i started using ring dips/pushups, not because gymnasts have a big chest (actually most don't, it's the boulder shoulders where they shine), but because the ring dips give awesome transfer to dumbell presses, heavy weights feel that much more solid to handle now...
People are idiots in their comments... you're suppose to have bent arms in flys tards... I'm a bodybuilder. You'll involve too much shoulder and could actually injure your shoulder doing them straight armed...
In gymnastics you do use straight arms. Plus if you need to bend your arms when doing flys you need to drop the weight as correct form is with straight arms
It really depends on your goals: in gymnastics these can be used to train up for harder movements that require straight-arms such as crosses, maltese etc. so it's essential getting used to a straight-arm position otherwise it's harder to correct later (in terms of both physical and neural adaptations).
Now, as a complement to a bodybuilding regime or working the chest on its own - there's nothing wrong with the bent arm version...
actually, u shud do these with straight arms, im a pt and was taught to do everything with bent arms but its a load of rubbish and the way i see it, the proof is in the pudding. i do bodybuilding and some gymnastics training. all you do by bending your arms is not train the tendons and joints so your muscles become strong only when in a bent arm position and in a straight arm position you will have the strength of a 5 year old.
the only way you will get injured doing straight arm exercises is by rushing your progression onto more difficult positions or weights. the benefits of straight arm training far outweighh those of bent arm training in strength gains. and the benefits are not reversible. if you train straight arm, you will be strong with a bent arm, if you train with a bent arm you wont b string with a straight arm. if you dnt believe me check out my ring training video. let me know what you think ;-)
You can but you wont get the same benefits. You use way more muscle with the rings to help you stabilize yourself. If you don't believe me try it yourself
Indeed. Rings require more stabilization than any other device or exercise. Although common wisdom is that strength isn't transferable from one movement to another, I feel safe in saying that if you can do it on the rings, you can do quite well in any similar movement,(weights, cables, even wrestling). Definitely not so in reverse!
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bmxguppi 8 months ago
i agree with lazur1, highly coordinated/unstable movements transfer well to raw strength with a stable barbell or machine not so much vice versa, so being a bodybuilder i started using ring dips/pushups, not because gymnasts have a big chest (actually most don't, it's the boulder shoulders where they shine), but because the ring dips give awesome transfer to dumbell presses, heavy weights feel that much more solid to handle now...
SnuffDizz 1 year ago
People are idiots in their comments... you're suppose to have bent arms in flys tards... I'm a bodybuilder. You'll involve too much shoulder and could actually injure your shoulder doing them straight armed...
xHOTDAMNxHBx 2 years ago
In gymnastics you do use straight arms. Plus if you need to bend your arms when doing flys you need to drop the weight as correct form is with straight arms
alantholland 2 years ago
It really depends on your goals: in gymnastics these can be used to train up for harder movements that require straight-arms such as crosses, maltese etc. so it's essential getting used to a straight-arm position otherwise it's harder to correct later (in terms of both physical and neural adaptations).
Now, as a complement to a bodybuilding regime or working the chest on its own - there's nothing wrong with the bent arm version...
banarelo 2 years ago
actually, u shud do these with straight arms, im a pt and was taught to do everything with bent arms but its a load of rubbish and the way i see it, the proof is in the pudding. i do bodybuilding and some gymnastics training. all you do by bending your arms is not train the tendons and joints so your muscles become strong only when in a bent arm position and in a straight arm position you will have the strength of a 5 year old.
smoochf 2 years ago 2
the only way you will get injured doing straight arm exercises is by rushing your progression onto more difficult positions or weights. the benefits of straight arm training far outweighh those of bent arm training in strength gains. and the benefits are not reversible. if you train straight arm, you will be strong with a bent arm, if you train with a bent arm you wont b string with a straight arm. if you dnt believe me check out my ring training video. let me know what you think ;-)
smoochf 2 years ago
straightin everything on those flies man, I know it kills, but thats what gets you perfect form.
l3yrdman 3 years ago
Inspiring stuff! I've just bought rings - wobbling around lots right now - looking forward to having proper control!
adygee 4 years ago
great work Crossfit. Rings are the ultimate
AndrewStemler 4 years ago
You can do the same thing on the ground with an ab wheel.
ofallon1234 5 years ago
You can but you wont get the same benefits. You use way more muscle with the rings to help you stabilize yourself. If you don't believe me try it yourself
alex112976 4 years ago
Indeed. Rings require more stabilization than any other device or exercise. Although common wisdom is that strength isn't transferable from one movement to another, I feel safe in saying that if you can do it on the rings, you can do quite well in any similar movement,(weights, cables, even wrestling). Definitely not so in reverse!
lazur1 4 years ago 2
arrg... bent elbows on the flys mate!!!!
nanquan491 5 years ago
He's a strong motherfather...
GPUK 5 years ago