Paula and Joe on David Ray Griffin's "Debunking 9/11"

[paulagloria]

"how does Paula Gloria manage to attract societies biggest morons and losers? Almost all her friends look like trailer trash / homeless."

I don't have a problem with homeless...you do?

[edix911]

Paula tries to confuse peopleand to disturb 911 truth movement. But people are not so dumb, so you're wasting your time. Tell me how Boeing 757 has fitted in to so small hole in Pentagon wall. Or why there is no more video evidence of Boing 757 hitting Pentagon? Why CCTV tapes were confiscated by FBI and never shown to the public? Or is this show necessary to collect our IP numbers and then make database of USA goverment enemy, of me and other people here?

[paulagloria]

"Or is this show necessary to collect our IP numbers and then make database of USA goverment enemy, of me and other people here?"

I want to thank you for finally clearing up something I have wondered about for a long time...why did I have a 50 drop in subscriptions after I was on Howard Stern the first time.

You have shown me how The REAL Cointel pro works....

[paulagloria]

....Certainly there are lists but I would rather be on a smart list than a dumb one. Non 9/11cult sanctioned would be the best

Why?

I counter the police state by staying connected with everyone in the machine and give ppl the chance to do the right thing. Stay true to the best knowledge and be willing to learn more and let go of less

Also I commend you for your bravery. If you believe this then it means for the sake of others you are trying you took a risk.

That is the heroic energy needed

[KenMasters411]

quality for this sucks... i have my volume turned all the way up!!!!!!!!!!! still can barely hear the conversation... :(

[burntfinger666]

Gloria is a joke.

[q8ic]

Another one speaks out the Truth - thank YOU !

[mt3355]

The subjects your dwelling on are very important. Your delivery is like watching paint dry. Joe's repeated sighs are a true indicator. Paula, your a fascinating women but work on your presentation. You need to get your viewers interested not put them to sleep. David Ray Griffen is a true diamond in the ruff. Learn from him on how to articulate and idea. My thoughts here are just the way I see it. The fact the sound is so bad is also fueling my criticism.

[paulagloria]

I was holding back here because Joe believes in global warming and I do not. What he read about David Ray Griffin implying that global warming is a true concern that the Bush administration is ignoring in the same way 9/11 is being ignored is to cloud the issue. Disinformation. You should check out our live call-ins they are very lively! Go to <b>rabbithoecentraldottv</b> and see the call-ins when Joe and I did "circumcision and swastikas" WOW! it's on the livestream page under archives!

[mt3355]

I am impressed with your reply. I felt bad after posting my comments and I'm glad to see you took them in stride. I will check out your other posts. Have you ever watched Kate and Rich at outtheretv dot com. They are my best resource for what's really going on in the world. Check out Ron Paul and my video posts. I'll be watching.

[damouno]

Hello Paula(again:) I used to be impressed with D.R.Griffin but i think Nico Haupt is correct. DRG is shill for one world govt(New World Order)+ Global Warming Baloney(Globaloney). He is suppressing TV Fakery evidence and does not discuss use of Exotic weapons (D.E.W) Direct energy weapons at all. He is a WASH, also Him+other researchers copied(plagiarized) orig.9/11 researchers work.they did not do any research of their own. more on this later

[mastersitsu]

you people are nuts.

[paulagloria]

to quote your own site here: "I don't exist. i am an amalgamation of tiny cockroaches who have formed into one mass which makes silly w..."

[DStyle86]

Thank you for promoting this book! I finished reading it a few weeks ago and it's BRILLIANT! I also agree with you on the CO2-issue, but the thing is you can't agree with everybody on everything. So Griffin is totally right on the 9/11 cover-up but he still has to learn few things about global warming.

[joefriendly]

Paula and I disagree on the global warming but both agree we need a free media and a lot of education constantly to look into it with freedom

[MarcelSKW]

Bumpi111, I agree, neither D. nor R. will open that Pandora box. The buildngs were designed considerng plane crashes without collapsing.

Even being a CD, they needed the crash, in order to blame the planes. Blaming terrorists for planting expl. would not "stick". How could Terr. "plant" hundreds of Thermite expl. without anyone noticing? Most prob. the terrorists were USED, without knowing they were being used. Or planes were crashed on the towers using remote control. Google "Thermite".

[bumpy111]

I found a smoking gun problem:

1) The first tower was struck much closer to the top of the building.

2) The second jet hit the second tower much later, but much lower.

3) The second tower, the one hit last fell first.

4) That gives credibility to the stress argument because the lower stress point has greater mass above it.

5) Once is collapsed, resulting earth quake would have triggered the second tower. That explains the time line a lot better than a controlled demolition.

[metalminded]

bumpy your idea doesnt work. for one, all buildings in america are strong enough to hold themselves up by a safty factor of at least 3; as in the towers could have been three times as tall and been stable vertically. Second, buildings do no fail vertically due to earthquakes, always laterally. And finally you have to address all of the other evidence of demolition; thermite, low level flashes, explosions ect.

[bumpy111]

1) They may be built to withstand a seismic wave of 3 ALONE. Never have they has jets, fire AND strong seismic waves.

2) Watch any old video of an earthquake, building fall down, The path of least resistance is straight down.

[metalminded]

bumpy where do you come up with this. im a professional architect,whats your area of specialty. deal with these then

1) in fact all buildings are designed to withstand earthquakes, high winds, full capasity, AND fire simultaneously. 2hour fire protection is standard

2)least resistance is though air, not through steel and concrete.

[bumpy111]

3) This situation was unique where the top floors were intackt. Basically you had a 10 to 20 story building falling down upon the remaining WTC tower. To deflect a building takes a huge amount of energy. Is is like trying to deflect a falling brick. Most likely the brick in going through what it hits, not deflected. Especially in the brick weights thousands if not millions of tons.

[metalminded]

bumpy you silly little mis-info agent

the buildings could hold up those 20 floors, the lightest weight 20 floors of the 110 by the way. In fact the building could literally hold 300 floors vertically.

the top floor fell how far? 1 story? 2 stories? 14-30 feet maybe?? to say that that produced enough momentum to obliterate the entire building is nonsense.

[bumpy111]

No kidding, the reason it stood in the first place is that it could with stand the weight. You seem to forget, a jet crashed into it and caught on fire, and then was shocked by the fall of the other building. Sure if can stand, sure maybe it can withstand a jet crash, sure maybe it can withstand a fire, and sure maybe it can withstand an earthquake. Put them all together and obviously things are different.

[bumpy111]

Search Google for this headline:

Debunking The 9/11 Myths - Mar. 2005 Cover Story

PM examines the evidence and consults the experts to refute the most persistent conspiracy theories of September 11.

[paulagloria]

anyone can give Bob a course on google? Actually me too.call me and we'll do a show...you can be anonomous on a phone call. Any Google whistleblowers?

[bumpy111]

What, is Google a part of this now?

From the last post:

Individually, maybe you are right, combined so that the sum is greater than the whole, it didn't hold.

[paulagloria]

killilluminati will inform you more. Folks this is Bob's first intro to 9/11 truth...remember the first time it dawned on you that we are NOT being taken care of by the institutions we trusted? Keeping that in mind you can understand Bob/s reactions. This process takes time.

[paulagloria]

what I meant about google is sometimes they pick up my vid description just fine but when you click on it you go to something different. in the case of mamograms it was to a lady saying exactly the opposite of what I said!

[bumpy111]

"Current findings from the simulation have identified the destruction of 11 columns on the 94th floor, 10 columns on the 95th floor and nine columns on the 96th floor," he said. "This is a major insight. When you lose close to 25 percent of your columns at a given level, the building is significantly weakened and vulnerable to collapse."

[bumpy111]

Lastly, you would have to be a genius to plan all this. Are you telling me that President Bush is that smart and competent?

[paulagloria]

ha-ha-ha! You're becoming a New Yorker yet...thanks for staying on top of this post...be sure to get back to me on the sun vs water vapor and how the poles are affected on the planets of the solar system (you only mentioned an earth difference)

[bumpy111]

I bet $1,000 that after President Bush leaves office, and the Democrats take power, they will not investigate President Bush for this crime. The espected outcome of a jet crashing into a tower like that would be collapse. If it was controlled. why did they need the jets? They could simply have said the terrorists planted the explosives in the building. Also, how did they convince people to commit suicide?

[paulagloria]

check what the engineers said about how many jets could go into the building...like a pencil in a mosquito net, just a hole. that is what the engineer himself said the building was designed to do.

[bumpy111]

1) Show me any experiment that has replicated even part of this catastrophy.

2) The mosquito net is an awful analogy, try a mosquito net with a brick hanging from it, with a small tear. That is a better analogy. These analogies fail to remember that you have a huge mass above the stress point. Metal doesn't need to melt, it only needs to soften when you have a 30 of 40 floor building resting on it.

[bumpy111]

5) If Bush could plan this complex of an event, why couldn't he plant WMDs in Iraq? BTW, he did this after only 8 months in office. Is he that competent?

6) Why did Osama make videos claiming credit?

[MarcelSKW]

Presidents and prime ministers have puppeteers pulling their strings. The real rulers are above them, it's that simple.

How can anyone be sure O.B.Laden claimed anything?

With just some $50k, a studio, few actors, make up, etc anyone can make those videos.

I guess they had more than 50 k, though, lol.

[paulagloria]

what do you mean!!! the vids were so poor that even a high school kid with the lowest end camera could do a better job...almost as bad as the moon landing photos. they can pull down the WTC but not create a clear vid

[bumpy111]

There are a few Dogs that don't bark here:

1) Congress is controlled by the Democrats, why aren't they investigating this?

2) Silverman isn't part of the Bush Admin, did Bush bring down the WTC and Silverman Bldg #7?

3) If someone owns the Fed, give me a name? They are certain to be very wealthy, where are they on the most wealthy people list?

4) All countries have central banks, none are owned by people, why is the US different?

[paulagloria]

I think the hope is that it would be different. the fed reserve didn't get rushed through until right before WW1

[bumpy111]

What does the date of the formation have to do with it? Monetary policy was in its infancy back then. I'm not following you on this one.

[AgnesBojaxhiu2000]

The 'findings add to a growing body of evidence that human activity, not natural causes, lies behind rising average world temperatures, which are expected to reach their second highest level this year since records began in the 1860s' ... 'the 10 warmest years in the past 150 years have all been since 1990' ... 'could not be ascribed to solar variability' ... but then what is killing the yellow jackets, butterflies, birds, and the pollinator bee

[paulagloria]

I'll alert the internet skeptic to see this and answer you...I wanted him to see what Joe and I did anyway....

[bumpy111]

Actually look at all the most recent findings, many are pointing to the sun.

1) The deep ocean is warming, IR doesn't penetrate the oceans.

2) CO2 has continually increased, yet temps fell between 1940 and 1980.

3) Mars and Pluto are warming as well.

5) Al Gore's own chart shows temps falling since the medieval warming period.

[paulagloria]

yes but how about the other planets warming...does only one pole warm? Is it warming because of water vapor or because of actually more sunshine falling on the various planets. I wasn't sure what you said

[bumpy111]

The sun is warming, therefor the entire solar system would be expected to warm. They have evidence that both Mars and Pluto are warming, as is earth accroding to some measurements.

[hypnofan35]

The Neocon's are classically corrupt. There ought to be college courses given on the corrupt political maneuvers of the Bush administration Neocons. The Popular Science presentation was amazing as in amazingly sparse.

[hypnofan35]

Seems to me that duplicity is the stock and trade of politicians. They cover stuff up, they get richer. The higher they get in the hierarchy the more secretive they are allowed to be by law. The Prez can say anything and get away with it. It is as if they are official criminals for good. Of course it this is probably an illegal phrase like "universally acceptable prejudice".