GETTING A REFUND OF YOUR HV30? What kind of videos do you even make? Do you like put a freaking vibrator on your camera or something? Holy crap are you insane? What do you use film with it??? Handheld on it is just fine. The only time you'll get a problem is if you're putting it on a car or whatever the hell you put it on in this video.
If you want stable footage don't rely on image stabilizers. Rely on your equipment, you know? Tripods, steadycams, shoulder mounts, hell even HANDHELD is fine!
@BenHughesStudios I film trains. The vibration through the ground of a passing train is enough to cause the lens assembly in the HV30 to shake. Handheld isn't an option; train horns often startle me which when filming without a fluid head causes rapid jerking.
Re relying on my equipment; yes, that is why I got rid of the HV30. My GS400s do a stunning job. Obviously the HV30 just wasn't right for me.
The test in this video is a synthetic test deliberately designed to exasperate the problem.
i understand where you are coming from, but nothing is wrong with the HV30 and Canon is right, because it is working as designed.
i think what ur problem is or wat differs from the both, is that the shutter speed is set higher, thus there will be less motion bluir the motion willbe more cleaer, but because of the rolling shutter, that itself will be more evident.
Yeah, too bad the stabiliser hasn't been designed better or can be locked (disabling in the menu doesn't appear to lock the lens elements and I believe they still vibrate given a big enough jolt).
I found with the shutter speed that 1/50 gave blurry crap images, while 1/500 gave sharp but crap images, so yes there is a bit of a trade off lol. So neither was really much of an improvement unfortunately. Slower shutter speeds only blurred the wobbling OIS & rolling shutter. Shame.
After all of this "fun", I ended up buying a second hand Panasonic NV-GS400; absolutely rocks and is a dream to use. Just gets out of the way and lets me film, and suits my filming so much better. Zoom is silky smooth, manual controls are awesome, OIS actually WORKS, manual/auto/exposure-lock switch is best thing ever. And it even works with Adobe Premiere Elements without needing 3rd party transfer programs, something the HV30 never did. Plus editing DV is so much faster.
hey man, good thing i came across this video, from the video u have shown on the HV30 and claiming to a terrible job is not the case at all, that is actually normal for cameras with a CMOS chip.
the wobbly effect u are seeing is due to the Rolling Shutter, which is a way how the CMOS chip is capturing the image, look it up at wikipedia, or do a google search of it. You will find that the HV30 provides the best image quality.
It isn't just the rolling shutter though. I tested it against 3 other CMOS cameras and they ALL preformed noticably better. Sure, the rolling shutter doesn't help, but there is something else going on here that makes the HV30 so much worse than any other CMOS camera I've tested.
As a follow up, I sent the camera to Canon along with these two videos, their response after much testing and comparing with other HV30s is that there is nothing wrong with mine, it's working as designed.
GETTING A REFUND OF YOUR HV30? What kind of videos do you even make? Do you like put a freaking vibrator on your camera or something? Holy crap are you insane? What do you use film with it??? Handheld on it is just fine. The only time you'll get a problem is if you're putting it on a car or whatever the hell you put it on in this video.
If you want stable footage don't rely on image stabilizers. Rely on your equipment, you know? Tripods, steadycams, shoulder mounts, hell even HANDHELD is fine!
BenHughesStudios 1 year ago
@BenHughesStudios I film trains. The vibration through the ground of a passing train is enough to cause the lens assembly in the HV30 to shake. Handheld isn't an option; train horns often startle me which when filming without a fluid head causes rapid jerking.
Re relying on my equipment; yes, that is why I got rid of the HV30. My GS400s do a stunning job. Obviously the HV30 just wasn't right for me.
The test in this video is a synthetic test deliberately designed to exasperate the problem.
madleech 1 year ago
@madleech youre crazy dude ive never seen hv30 footage so shaky
not trying to argue or such or put you down but if you cant get rid of shakes than to me youre seeming very amateur.
even on my cell phone i can film with less shakyness than you did in your video.
you let go of a very very good camera dont think you should have.
Scratch2C 1 year ago
I have the exact same problem. You're not alone =(
boomblaster9470 2 years ago
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boomblaster9470 2 years ago
There might be something wrong with your HV30. You might want to get it checked over.
MHproductionsMH 2 years ago
I did. Canon NZ said it was working perfectly!
madleech 2 years ago
i understand where you are coming from, but nothing is wrong with the HV30 and Canon is right, because it is working as designed.
i think what ur problem is or wat differs from the both, is that the shutter speed is set higher, thus there will be less motion bluir the motion willbe more cleaer, but because of the rolling shutter, that itself will be more evident.
ohmss006 2 years ago
Yeah, too bad the stabiliser hasn't been designed better or can be locked (disabling in the menu doesn't appear to lock the lens elements and I believe they still vibrate given a big enough jolt).
I found with the shutter speed that 1/50 gave blurry crap images, while 1/500 gave sharp but crap images, so yes there is a bit of a trade off lol. So neither was really much of an improvement unfortunately. Slower shutter speeds only blurred the wobbling OIS & rolling shutter. Shame.
madleech 2 years ago
After all of this "fun", I ended up buying a second hand Panasonic NV-GS400; absolutely rocks and is a dream to use. Just gets out of the way and lets me film, and suits my filming so much better. Zoom is silky smooth, manual controls are awesome, OIS actually WORKS, manual/auto/exposure-lock switch is best thing ever. And it even works with Adobe Premiere Elements without needing 3rd party transfer programs, something the HV30 never did. Plus editing DV is so much faster.
madleech 2 years ago
... I'm not missing the extra resolution either; the GS400 pumps out some mean-as DV :-)
So goodbye HV30, helloooo GS400. Looks like I'm a Panasonic fanboy now!
madleech 2 years ago
hey man, good thing i came across this video, from the video u have shown on the HV30 and claiming to a terrible job is not the case at all, that is actually normal for cameras with a CMOS chip.
the wobbly effect u are seeing is due to the Rolling Shutter, which is a way how the CMOS chip is capturing the image, look it up at wikipedia, or do a google search of it. You will find that the HV30 provides the best image quality.
ohmss006 2 years ago
It isn't just the rolling shutter though. I tested it against 3 other CMOS cameras and they ALL preformed noticably better. Sure, the rolling shutter doesn't help, but there is something else going on here that makes the HV30 so much worse than any other CMOS camera I've tested.
As a follow up, I sent the camera to Canon along with these two videos, their response after much testing and comparing with other HV30s is that there is nothing wrong with mine, it's working as designed.
madleech 2 years ago
I'm sorry, but when stabilization is off, the canon has more vibration, which means that it vibrates more, so it's not nearly a fair comparison...
stema84 2 years ago