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  • which talent points make Rupture refresh by using Eviscerate and Envenom in Assassination?

    I only saw for refresh slice and dice in Assassination.

  • @SaiLinHan The only talent that does that is in Sub way down near the bottem. Serated Blades. In Assassination you have to refresh rupture manually.

  • @Jigjaguo thx for reply. I also play Sub talent too. can u tell me the name u use for rogue addons? fast apply poison on weapons and energy gain status.

  • @SaiLinHan Well I do have an addon video if you check my channel.

  • If its from 4.1.. then why the hell do u say 4.3 in the title..

  • @MrAndres2770 Because the rotation and spec hasn't changed since 4.1, Thus it is valid even now in the current 4.3 patch.

  • NEW GUIDE :D!

  • Could you possible tell me ALL the addons you have here? would really love to have them on my rogue!

  • @FrankLucasAG1 Well I do have a vidoe that explains my UI, and i'm also just about to upload a new video that explains it even better, so if you want to wait till that is uploaded then it should help you.

  • this is like the best rogue guide i ever seen,its ...priceless..with epic music...tnx so much i could fuking kiss you :D

  • What is your DPS when you raid? if you raid at all :P ? i just want to know if you are top 3 or not :P ?

  • @TerminatorCrighton My DPS in raids is usually around the 40-50k on most bosses, The only one that it dips to around 34k is Ultraxion, mainly because I loose about 10k from not being able to be behind him at all durring any point of hte fight, And in my raid groups I'm usually always the top.

  • @Jigjaguo nice! cuss i'm gona go back to WoW again at mars, and i wanted to know if rogues are/ or can be better than mage's for example :), and i was wondering if i was gona go mage or rogue. but it's decided now ^^ Night Elf Rogue, cuss i just remember back in wotlk before i quit, how much fun it was! <3

  • @Jigjaguo And btw you got one more subscriber :D

  • What addons are you using?

  • Your video has helpped alot ty very alot my gone way up thanks heaps!

  • What addons are you using?

  • What's the song in the video? I really like it

  • hi, please read your messages!

  • Hey what addon is making all your hit damage scroll, just above your target frame

  • As of the patch 4.3, when I said I pulled 15k dps like nothing on my rogue, people laughed and said I was supposed to pull at least 39k.... When I said I pulled 22k dps with CD's, I was still not recognized for pulling any decent damage...

  • @1undeadskater1 My rogue at 388 avg ilvl, with all cds popped, pulls up to 55k on a raid boss. I don't know what your ilvl is, but if it is anywhere near 388, you're doin somethin dreadfully wrong.

  • @MrImenand I have almost full 376 gear, I keep instant poison on main hand and deadly on off-hand. If it a boss, I stick on vendetta, if not I leave it to my normal rotation. My rotation is stealth>garrote>slice 'n' dice> mutilate> Mutilate> rupture>Mutilate>envenom>Mutil­ate>mutilate>envenom>mutilate>­mutilate>rupture. And once the target reaches below 35% health, the mutilates are replaced with back stabs.

  • @MrImenand I mean almost full 378 gear

  • @1undeadskater1 ITs differend from class to class and armor, if you got full pvp tier 13 and season 10 or 11 daggers, you may crit 39k as rogue. but rogues have much poison abilities and take much of opponents hp.

    My highest crit ever i did was 48k with my dk. But i have seen mages that crit 72k and over...

  • What are your addon ??

  • Song name?

  • Also, on bosses that last long, break stealth with garrote, and when garrote is over, vanish >garrote once again, due to the dps boost you get from energy regen on bleed effects from a talent..... and because it will be out of cooldown 3 minutes later when the boss is at or below 35%

  • You'd do a bit more dps with the 31/2/8 spec

  • @hayakubaka thats the spec I'm using right now if you were to check my armory page.

  • who the hell plays assassination anymore.. Sub or Combat.

  • @xoxWozzeRxox Alot of people, And considering I can top the charts with 40-50k, And combat doing roughly the same, it's still a very relevant spec in raiding. And sub is only good on certain fights, namely ones where you don't need to move alot and can be behind your target constantly.

  • @Jigjaguo Assassination was my favourite spec and i hate combat witha passion, but i play sub on the 1st 4 bosses. I may now try assassination but im sure that it wont work due to the gear needing very different stats to combat and sub is closer to combats stats so ill need 2 sets of gear. So i will prolly stick to combat unfortunatly

  • @xoxWozzeRxox Well, With reforging in the game the base stats on gear doesn't matter to hell of a lot. Obviously you wont get as many stats from reforging, but you can warp your gear to fit other specs, so its not as bad as you think to switch specs with the same gear.

  • @Jigjaguo tbh, i dont just reforge, ill re-enchant and re-gem so it is more expensive than i cba to spend, plus assassination from looking at logs is a few K dps lower than combat on most fights, due to target swapping with adds ect.

  • @Jigjaguo LOL! Combat is the best period. If you're a Rogue and you plan on getting the legendarys combat will surpass the other two specs. The ability to spam Eviscerate for 6 seconds unbeatable. You might ask why well the ability Restless Blades. Since this reduces the CD's on most of the Rogues Primary abilties, means more uptime on AR, KS, and even Redirect. Redirect is a solid dps CD to transfer Bandit G to another target. Enjoy Assassination and Sub while it's still comparable to combat!

  • @dmears357 I never argued that Assassination will surpass combat when the legenaries are avaiiable, I'm well aware that combat will do better with the ability to spam the hell out of Evis. But for the time being, From my personal experiance, Assassination has been better for me, Simply because I know how to play it to its fullest. I've been bounsing between the tow specs quite a bit, But for now I'm sticking with Mut. In the future i'll end up switching.

  • how do u go from rupture to slice and dice

  • NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO­OOOB 4.1.0

  • @Maxwwii I've said before, If it is requested enough times i'll make an updated one with my current gear. But the basic rotation and stats are literally the exact same as 4.0.6, or 4.1.0 which ever you wish to base it off of.

  • What is the best spec to go for PvE? 

  • @eZoneHD it all depends on the fights really, every rogue spec is viable in pve right now if you can beleive that lol. But from waht i've tested on dummies (For me personally) it goes Assassination > Combat > Subtlety. But again its all fight based. Perfect example on Ultraxion, Combat would kick mut and subs ass on that fight, because you can't get behind him.

  • 4.3 and uploaded half a year ago? yeah right..

  • @Nervoxic The rotation and prioraties are all the exact same as in 4.0.6. Literally nothing has changed but gear, but if it is demanded, I will make an updated 4.3 one, but for now, this will work perfectly.

  • @Jigjaguo What is the addon called that is spamming numbers and stuff just above the target frame

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  • what is the name of the addon that let you add the timer bars for stuff like slice and dice? i really need it

  • @fighterisr Well, the ones in the video are part of ElvUI, but there is a standalone addon called Rogue Power Bars that does the same thing.

  • @Jigjaguo yes! rogue power bars, that is what i was looking for, thank you very much

  • helöü

    griitings vröm inteligent boi from Switzerländ! How are yü?

  • @MadMagasine13 I'm doing perfectly amazing, inteligent boi from Switzerländ. How are you today!!

  • how did you guet your character portrait on your health bar with elvui?

  • @awm12321 I think I'm going to be making a new ElvUI set up video which will describe how I have mine set up now, but in this older version there was an option for the unit frames to put the portrait in overlay.

  • And this rotation, and spec works for Cata ? 4.3?

  • @JustinBoyd450 Yup, works perfectly. pretty much nothing has changed since cata was released untill now. Only thing that has, is gear. :)

  • thanks, it really helped a lot

  • what was the addons please

  • @TomJohnsonism The UI is called ElvUI, thats most of what you see.

  • song name? I always watch this just for the music, plus i now know how to play assassination now :D

  • @Nickasauur Well the song name coes pop up at around 10 seconds into the video in the bottom left corner. but the song is "Hold on" - Subsonik vs. Kiro.

    :)

  • @Jigjaguo Ah, thank you. You've earned yourself a sub, and ive liked and favourited the video. Keep up the good work :D

  • should i use envenom instead of evicerate becuase of the mastery assas offers?

  • @Mrsomethinggold Yes, ALWAYS. Never use evicerate in assassination.

  • nice video :) btw name of the addons?

  • fuark nice song choice

  • Hey what are those unit frames ur using ?? thnx 4 nswer

  • @Taunt86 The unitframes, aswell as every thing else is from an Interface called ElvUI, I have a video up aobut how i set it up if you'd like to know.

  • @Jigjaguo Hey thnx for the quick answer, i downloaded it and managed to configure it my desired way already =), but ive one question left ! Is there a way to make the colors for the combo pointzs a little more...vibrant i dunno they seem so flat and i cant find a configuration menu for the combo point bar nowhere Oo !!

  • @Taunt86 Hmmm..... I'm not sure. I think it has something to do with class colors....

    I'm not sure if there is an option for that or not but, try looking for that. If you can't find it then you might just need to DL a seperate Combo point mod or what ever. I've never really had a problem with it but now that you mention it they do look a little... bland.

  • song name?

  • @RyanLukero Hold On To Me - Armin van Buuren

  • is it better to use SND first or Rupture....?

  • @TiberiusArms15 honestly i don't think it makes a difference, I like to put rupture up to get the energy regen/damage proc, but alot of people argue that you should get SnD up first to get your attack speed up quicker. I really don't think it makes a difference cause i;ve tried both and niether seem to be better thne the other.

  • Why is your dps so low? You're doing the right rotation and your gear is good, stats look good but only 14k? I'm doing 20k on the direbrew fight in pvp gear. On a dummy self buffed I can still hold 16k. With the amount of hit and mastery you have you should be doing 18 or 19k. Also why do you use instant on mh? If you put deadly on mh when it hits 5stacks it automaticly triggers your oh instant poison, and helps stack poison faster for 5pt envenoms.

  • @foozybearz Because back when I did this I was still kinda learning, but its a good guide non the less. And having inst on MH or deadly doesn't matter, IT will always proc your other poison no matter what hand its on if you have 5 stacks of deadly. And in the gear i have now i pull 25-30k on direbrew, and 18-19 on dummies self buffed.

  • @Jigjaguo Make a new Guide with commentary.

  • @zareric I guess i could.

  • @foozybearz are you serious for your comment? mh instant oh deadly, you do the opposite you are completely ignorant. with his gear here the dps he does are ok and also i dont see him using any cd.

  • @foozybearz you put instant on MH because improved poisons increase the chance to proc instant poison by 50% but deadly by 20%, since you hit more with your mh then your oh, instant poison ticks a lot more. So no, it's not the same and main hand instant is much better for how many times it procs ^_^

  • @foozybearz Because he is using 1.8 speed dagger in offhand I think.

  • @purlzz No its a 1.4 speed. But this video is old and i had bad gear back then. Look at the release date.

  • @Jigjaguo Ah sorry then :)

  • Song?

  • 3 in prescision? you can always outgear that talent though...

  • name of song plz!?!?

  • Your awsome :D

  • Ui?

  • @blairjoshua theres an anotation in the vid linking to a video about my UI if you'd like to know more.

  • seems like a pain to get daggers as you level though.

  • whats the magic you got on #1 :)

  • Good guide :D

    Helped me so much!

  • Upload new videos with improved dps

  • ty for this video realy helped me im in love with rogues now:)) and can you tell me what name is the addon that makes youre talents look different pls?

  • @itsiktetro You mean like, the buttons? or something Different?

    Cause the buttons on my action bar are just macros to make the buttons look how i want them to look, and the darker borders on stuff is from Elv UI.

  • @itsiktetro nice and to the point nice ui set up too, thanx

  • this vid really helped. I was around level 60, my dps was really low, was thinking about giving up....saw this video and now I'm level 85, still going strong, all thanks to this vid. Thank you very much! :)

  • whats this song?????? lol

  • thanks! my dps improved with 4k! : o

  • thanks, im a new rogue and im only lvl 60 atm but it seriously helped my dps in dungeons, thank you!

  • @jwildkill Yeah, No problem :)

  • @Jigjaguo However I do agree with that one person, you should make a video to show how you set up your elv, mines pretty crappy and bland. Its a great addon but I can never figure out how to completely customize it :)

  • what do you call the addon, where you can se your damage with the posions, at the right ?

  • ok i guess my biggest question is you have 3/3 precision which gives you +6% hit on poisions and attacks ..so why did you bring your hit to damn near 18% when it should cap at 11 - 12% (because of the 6% from precision). Granted the hit tooltip will not show this, dw frost DKs have a similiar thing with a +3% hit talent it does effect us however the tooltip just doesnt show it.

  • @Dathgarion No i'm pretty sure it shows up with the talent, And if it doesn't then blizz has a problem to fix.

    but i'm pretty sure it add's the 6% onto your hit % on the tooltip.

  • @Jigjaguo with 2/3 in precision you should have 15% hit, you have way to much hit. and snd>rupture

  • @Jigjaguo Yeah I can confirm that it does add the hit onto your stats - it never used to, but they updated that in one of the patches.

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  • lol her toon syncs with the music:D

  • Download the IMPORTANT rougue addon named: Vendetta. It shows your assasination rotation exactly! Tumbs up if you now using vendetta rotation helper

  • Very nice. 

  • What's the name of your UI plox ? BTW. very nice guide ;)

  • @TheHellMade I have a UI video up on my channel if you want to see it. :)

    But if you don't the UI is called ElvUI.

  • @Staudten

    Aww who shit in your cereal?

  • I meant to say 7kdps**

  • I do this but only do like 10k dps :(

    My ilvl is 359

    Wat do?

  • @Rawrberreh Stop playing or switch to PvE gear.

  • @Rawrberreh Re roll

  • @Rawrberreh Just download The addon named Vandetta its show how u use your rotation

  • new rouge here. so you spend all of your combos on slice and dice, and envenom right? correct me if im wrong plz

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  • when i cheked the armory there was a freaking Human instead of Elf :D

  • @shadow123474 I race changed

  • lol combat is way better dps i do 19k dps on a raid dummy with 357 ilvl

  • @gubbarune Mmmmmhmmmm i'm sure.

  • @gubbarune 19k at 357?

    reroll.

  • @MacRedbaron Yeah sitting on a raid dummy and hitting killing spree once, the nrunning away can do that for you.

  • @Jigjaguo I meant it the other way around. If he's only hitting 19k he really needs to play a DK or something more suited to his obvious low level of skill.

  • @MacRedbaron Haha, right. xD

  • lol i loved how after i saw the info on the vid last night, i went to check out the armory link to see what your gear looked like, and when it gets to the char, your in wrathfull pvp gear xD made my day.

  • @Ismerich Haha, Yeah i roll around in that gear some times for the hell of it. xD

    Anyways i logged out in my pve gear so if you want to check it out go for it.

  • @Jigjaguo love your videos man, seriously 10/10

  • ummmm so why no glyph of trix of the trade, even if ur like the worst rogue ever and only use tot like once its still a dps upgrade, also sap provides little to no raid functionality, if u really need a 2 minute sap then ur comp is completely wrong, plus most people just grab the sapped target first after the non ccs are dead

  • @deathreaper758 I don't want to have this discution again, because it had no possative outcome but....

    The trix glyph is useless. Because it lowers the damage output on the target by 5% and the 15 energy is such a small amount that there is no point.

    I never said i used tricks only once durring a fight, I use it off CD most of hte time unless i see no point in using it, And with the 4 set bonus of t12 it will make it so much more worth it. I may switch from sap to trix when i get 4/5 t12.

  • @deathreaper758 But for now, Loosing 5% on tricks makes the glyph next to useless, and if you have problems getting 15 energy then your obviously doing it wrong.

    kthx. Bai ^.^

  • Hi, I'm leveling an Assasination Rogue at this moment, he is ~level 55. I find Ambush more useful than Garrote, maybe this is because of my level?

  • @Jinxit85 At low levels don't bother with the rotation simpley because ambush hits so hard. but at higher levels garrote will give you more of a dps increase

  • hallo. ive seen your ui vid and im not really into that kinda tuk-ui looking uis. but i really like the bars that shows the slice and dice and all that kinda shit atop of your unit frame. do you know a great addon that can replace that one. but with the same effect?

  • @juicybumcrack Well, Your best bet would probably be RoguePowerBars. It is probably your best bet for the timers on all that stuff.

    Hope this helps :)

  • can u link me the UI video?

  • @l2iclcy Just check on my channel, Its called Straz's Addons/UI

  • @Jigjaguo thx

  • Love this guide, really amazing job. but how come you only have 3 expertise? D:

    Also, how much dps do you do in a 10/25man raid?

  • @MrSspritee Well, at the time, there was no point in going for expertice as assassination, cause you would lose too many other important stats to get the cap.

    And in my 10m raids i useually pull anywhere from 12-17k depending on the fight.

    Sometimes more if there are other factors involved

    And glad you like it ^.^

  • @Jigjaguo Is your current spec on the armory for PVP the sub one. Please respond :3

  • @MrUnstoppableOwnage Yeah it is, I go back and fourth between pvp and pve alot.

  • @Jigjaguo where can i find a good training dummy at my lvl? (lvl 40) i can do stormwind cuz i cant hit them

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  • what are your addons?

    

  • @dragotac I have a UI video up if you want to watch it.

  • @Jigjaguo yea thanks i saw it great vids :D /subscribe

  • armory link please :D?

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  • Wow, ty so much for posting this! Also song name? 

  • @Inzolity Yeah, No problem!!

    And the song name is called Hold On - Kiro vs Subsonik

    It pops up on the screen around 0:09 to 0:15 below the charecter panel

  • @Jigjaguo Oh, shit. Sorry i didnt notice. i've been practicing a bit. I'm doing 8-9k DPS on a 85 dummy.  335ilevel.

  • @Jigjaguo whats the best spec for dungeons? im new to a rogue lvl 37

  • Hi mate, Great video, and Thanks alot for the rotation help :3

  • how is your picture moving on your hp bar

  • @sopheaku Its part of ElvUI, Its an option you can enable.

  • Hey man great rotation!, But you didnt mention abotu stats etc? or am i meant to copy ur stats if so ignore this xD But hey thanks fro the rotation

  • Great assassination rogue dps guide, also what is the name of this song and where can I find more like it.

  • Dude, next time make the video at a raid dummy, not a lvl 80 just because you want to make it look like more dps then it really is.

  • @rainx0209 I didn't go to that dummy to try and pull more DPS. I went to that Dummy because it is the only training dummy in the entire game you can get below 35%, Which is essential for rogues, because when a mob/boss is below 35% HP, your backstab refunds half it its energy.

    If you can't use backstab then there is no point to even try your full rotation on a raiding dummy. You should just go kill bosses, or test your DPS in random dungeons.

  • Hey man, great video. What addon is your interface?

  • @WorldofSensus I do have a UI video up if you want to see what all the addons i'm using are, but the ui i'm using is called ElvUI. I'm pretty sure you can get it from Curse or Wowinterface

  • I love to play as Muti because it is so beautiful when the executioner phase come, you start spamming 25k backstabs which cost 30 energy, DPS is awesome in that phase. Use that with trinkets, vendetta, BL and Tol Vir potion and your numbers go to heaven

    Rogues do it from behind....

  • you inspired me to level my rogue (*_*)

  • @AirusaXHotaru Hey, awesome man!!

    Good luck! :)