EU Expansion and Transatlantic Relations

[13Njord]

i just want to say one thing. how come we still see posts from a video way past our age oh say ...early 2008? now were talking 2012 now, shouldn't we talk about skilled immigrants and why education is more important than immigration? as an individual, ask yourself, are you able to help the country/region/people in that specific geographic region?

[janesatorres]

I have definitely heard about the balance of power. And it resulted to division of European and non-European nations.

[pixelr0]

moldova to romania is like eastern germany to western germany! please don't put molodva into USSR

[cranialbob]

JMF was the greatest and most visionary statesman of the past 30 years.

[Gutenberg1]

you have to be careful listening to joschka fischer. He is a former communist, a street fighter, an anarchist, whose intention is to destroy the unitiy of the European nations and above all the German nation. His dark intentions are well disguised in his speeches. Communist alarm!

[pedski86]

'You have to be careful listening to Joschka Fischer'.

Aren't you just the moral authority then? Joschka Fischer is an idealist who in his younger days rebelled against injustice and the remnants of Nazism that still appeared in everyday life. Upon assuming a Ministerial post, he has made level-headed decisions, steering leftism along a sensible path. Hence, Humanitarian interventions and so forth.

The personal evolution of this man is extraordinary.

[Gutenberg1]

it´s different to be an "idealist" and to try to destroy a society. Joschka said and wrote: "the German nation has to be wedged out from within". How would it be, if someone said sth like this about africans or jews or moslems? the next days he would be sued with rassism.

Joschka did a lot, when he was foreign minister, with which he mad germany and europe a more insecure place, pushing it towards civil war. In Serbia he is convicted. Hopefully he will be soon in other countries as well

[pedski86]

Where and when did he say that? If he did, it sounds like he is talking about nationalism - the very instrument that made Europe fight each other for ages.

In your opinion, how did he make Europe more insecure?

At what point had Europe come close to civil war in the last decade? Arguing with each other over Salami imports or fishing regulations appears to be the extent of European countries clashing these days.

He advocated stopping genocide in Serbia. The problem is????

[Gutenberg1]

all these questions cannot be answered in 500 chars.

1. he did not say it, he WROTE it in his book, so it is proven fact.

2. by bringing millions of barbarians into the eu, assuming, just because they are black and moslems, they are peaceful. He prepared as foreign minister a coming civil war in Europe.

Stopping genocide in SR? Against whom? Thousands of serbs were slaughtered by mujahaddins (=Joschkas friends and allies)

Sorry, no more chars :)

[pedski86]

1. You haven't stated the context of that statement: FOX news style ;)

2. Bringing barbarians into the EU? So I'm dealing with a sheltered Neo-Nazi here?

3. You don't acknowledge genocide against Kosovo Albanians? There's no use having a sensible discussion with you!

Confucious once said: 'You can't argue with an idiot'

[Gutenberg1]

wow.

"Arguments" I see.

[kikusdream]

@Gutenberg - How rich for a German to talk about Barbarianism when his countrymen some of which are still alive killed over 6 million people one the basis of their Religion, Political standing, sexual orientation, and disability.

As far as the Barbarians are concerned correct me if I am wrong, didn't those very same Barbarians rebuild your gutted Country after its annihilation in the World War?...cntd.

[Gutenberg1]

yes, well, the Turkish people killed 2 million armenians (this was the model to hitlers holocaust), the chinese Mao killed 50-60 million people, Stalin also a few million, and the christian church who knows how many. But only the German nation faces its own history and takes responsibility. Do you really expect me to dispute with you on "you are to blame on hitlers holocaust"-level?

[kikusdream]

@Schlechtenberg - Conspiracy theorist such as yourself are vacant when it comes to discussions and common sense and appease their twisted conscience by vilifying others

[Gutenberg1]

wow, very clever statement. And this from somebody who has an islamist on his frieds-list.

Talking about twisted conscience: Joschka, former stone thrower and street fighter anti-capitalist is now advisor for BMW and several oil companies.

Well, if this is not pure conscience...

[kikusdream]

@Schlechtenberg - I have an Islamist on my friends list? Please do point him/her out! Since that statement of yours is utter hogwash may I suppose that your arguments are equally absurd?

As far as the Germans are concerned they were forced to take responsibility, because no other Nation in History ever attempted to commit such heinous crimes.

The reality of the world is that Nationalism is dead and not a moment to soon, and its a good thing Fischer has realized it.

[Gutenberg1]

@kikusdream who told you that the holocaust was the worse crime? what about the systematic mass murder of 100 million innocent civilians in the communismus? or the millions of killed armenians in turkey? Please no relativism here.

The only thing fischer realised is how to make big money with the oil industry. He is just a clown who tries to make himself important.

[kikusdream]

Well I am not willing to buy Cold War Propaganda figures as fact. If Communism was such a depraved force its quiet amazing how everybody pretends that China is now out Bossombuddy.

Also I've travelled extensively, and everytime I come to Germany I've left with a bitter taste in my mouth. You people harbor such immense racism towards other people it is funny. The state of the German-Turkish population speaks for itself, three generations and still they are treated as 'Gastarbeiter', disgusting!

[kikusdream]

Oh and don't start about: 'its them who do not want to integrate', which is utter utter garbage. The reality is the germans would never accept them or any other minority for that matter as equals no matter how much they try.

Integration is a two way process, which eludes the Germans absolutely. In Canada where I live, we have managed to adopt and integrate Cultures from such a varied background without any major hiccups.

[OxEyeChai]

Importing work force = divide and conquer

[RemiG2006]

And lastly Joschka! Thanks to young people like me all over the whole EU who don't feel to be part of certain state but EU "citizens", whether so called old or new long term we will be much better off than Americans or the Chinese as well Indians, whose economies and UNDEVELOPED/FRESH financial system will be hit hard when next 1929 happens GLOBALY! In fact, it just begun unfolding late last year!

If you want to worry about somebody, begin to worry about Americans because they have ...

[RemiG2006]

...been making mistake after mistake both in monetary (thanks to Greenspan) as well, what's more importantly, foreign policy since 9.11.2001 by Dubya Administration!

PS And yes! There will be Novus Ordo Mundi as stated by Bush senior on 9.11.1991 but not the one he'd dreamt of! It'll be something new and refreshing but the time has not yet come!

[woopeea]

Well said Rami2006.

[RemiG2006]

... but Joschka! Did Rumsfeld told you what to tell to the folks after 9.11? And what do you think will happen with US, after whole Social Security System will announce insolvency somewhere between 2015-2020, subprime-credit-derivatives blows up ... helicopter Ben trys to solve the problem by expanding inflating greenback further more .... and maybe they even try to merge Mexico, US, Canada set up new currency screwing up all creditors by manipulating exchange rates?!!

[infokemp]

You made some good points, check out my vids on Europe and America.

Infokemps channel.

[RemiG2006]

All fine but why you wanna screw Europeans by adopting repackaged old EU Constitution not by asking the folks in referendum as before, EU citizens not being able to vote on a new constitution but adopting it by member state Parliaments!

Europeans are not dumbed down as most Americans!

It will back fire in the long run!

Overall I agree with Joshka, the whole concept seems to work well ... at least for now....