I personally prefer the mellower sounds of a NY Steinway (not as bright as a Hamburg Steinway, as demonstrated in the video) or a Bosendorfer. Although it's known that Hamburg Steinway pianos are higher in quality than the ones made in New York, the NY Steinways have quite a charm that I find irresistible!
Between Bosendorfer and NY Steinway, I'd play rather play Bach, Mozart, Schubert or Debussy on a Bosendorfer while favoring NY Steinway for Beethoven, Liszt, Rachmaninoff or Prokofiev.
It's not only the brand that matters but the quality of the piano. Because I've played twice on a Steinway D274 (in Ankara,Turkey) and listened to it a hundred time at least. It's a Hamburg Steinway. And I can say that it's a much better piano than that Steinway D274.
Da quanto ne so, la tastiera Steinway è la più difficile e il pianoforte ti offre una gamma più ampia di suoni, mentre il Fazioli credo che abbia un tasto più leggero. Purtroppo non ho mai avuto il piacere di suonare su un Fazioli, ma, dato che suono tutti i giorni su uno Steinway, vi posso assicurare che è una tastiera che metta alla prova, forse è la migliore per lo studio, e, comunque, ha un magnifico suono e una meccanica splendida. I bassi del Fazioli sembravano meno ricchi.
I like both fazioli and steinway. Though I still like the steinway pianos better, the bass in the Fazioli although great wasn't as good as steinway's. I liked the treble range of the fazioli a lot, it's very pure but i still like the steinway better.
98% of concert pianist chose Steinway. It is a very flaw observation to say that Steinway is a "mass production piano". It is an absolutely handmade piano. If Fazioli was as popular as Steinway, they would probably try to make one thousand pianos a year as well.
Both are great pianos to say the least, but Steinway has built a reputation of 158 years!
Let's wait for Fazioli to have 50 years and may this conversation take place again...
This is an interesting idea, and I think you can do better. Just record them both better, and the same way, with the same pianist, playing the same thing.
From what I've heard, the Fazioli's are the more controllable and have a brilliant touch response. But I just don't like the sound as much as Steinway.
En mi opinión esta comparativa es muy pobre. No es lo mismo escuchar percutir sin ninguna expresión a un individuo que no puede tocar sin equivocarse un ejercicio de lo más cuadrado a un verdadero pianista que pueda demostrar las capacidades de cada instrumento llevandolos al máximo. Por otro lado, es increible que habiendo videos aqui en yt como el de Boris Berezovsky tocando los trascendentales haya quien opine que el Stainway es un piano sobreestimado.
To my ear, Fazioli is brighter and more distinct throughout. With the Steinway, you get softer, more rounded, more colorful tones.Personally, I prefer the Fazioli.
its not that I dont adore the Fazioli pianos but i really love Steinway pianos. I still believe that the tremble of the Fazioli pianos may be a bit better than that of the Steinway pianos. But the Steinway's bass is at least AMAZING! :)
I think that that pianist is very lucky to paly the same piece at both pianos and choose himself which is better
In conclusion, I would give anything to have a Steinway & Sons Model D because I think that its the BEST PIANO ever
I'm not sure a Brahms finger exercise is the best vehicle for this comparison. Plus how can we make a really informed judgement listening to an mpeg on YouTube? Like many aspects of art I would of thought it was a matter of personal taste.
@francovillanueva27 Have you played a 6' foot (F183) Fazioli lately? If you ever had the pleasure of getting your hands on a recent opus, you might be tempted to rethink your position. I, frankly, don't see anything on the horizon that even remotely comes close to this piano.
Have you played a 6' foot (F183) Fazioli lately? If you ever had the pleasure of getting your hands on a recent opus, you might be tempted to rethink your position. I, frankly, don't see anything on the horizon that even remotely comes close to this piano.
@francovillanueva27 Have you played a 6' foot (F183) Fazioli lately? If you ever had the pleasure of getting your hands on a recent opus, you might be tempted to rethink your position. I, frankly, don't see anything on the horizon that even remotely comes close to this piano.
The flagship instruments (more than 7') of major manufacturers such as Steinway (NY and Hamburg), Bosendorfer, Bechstein, and Fazioli all have beautiful qualities; their merits can be argued. But what about pianos in the 6' range? As far as I am concerned, Fazioli is the clear winner here. This is because the tail end is wider with more vibrating areas on the soundboard, helping it make a rich bass similar in scope to 7-footers. I have yet to run across anything comparable in the marketplace.
No two hand-built pianos will sound the same, even the same make/model, so you can't compare just from this video. Fazioli is the best piano I've personally played, like silk compared to Steinway (satin). I like think of Fazioli as the Ferrari of pianos and Steinway is the Bentley. But there's also a difference in Steinways to consider as well: NY Steinways and Hamburg Steinways. How can you possibly compare brands?
Le Steinway est pas mal dans le medium, un peu creux dans les graves alors que le Fazioli est plein et rond. Quant aux aiguës c'est la banale catastrophe courante pour Steinway (et tous les autres), seul Fazioli a trouvé le moyen de faire sonner ces notes sans perte de puissance et sans ce martèlement sec qui initie le son... Du coup le passage des mediums aux aiguës est parfait, sans rupture de caractère.
I think the Fazioli is more of a classical repetoire type piano whereas the Steinway is more of a jazz, pop, rock type piano. I can clearly hear the timbre difference.
Steinway is hardly mass produced. Maybe they make more per year than Fazioli but Steinway is hand made. Watch the documentary "Note by Note Making a Steinway"
I'll go with the Steinway. I've played on Fazioli pianos a few times, they tend to be very good when playing soft, but I feel like I have to put more effort into playing loud, I don't necessarily do that on Steinways. However, my favorite pianos are Blüthner pianos, because they respond to anything you do (as long as you've had proper training and have learned to control your dynamics). I played on one, and it's amazing how much little effort it takes from going extremely pp, to extremely ƒƒ.
SORRY TO DISAGREE WITH FAZIOLI LOVERS, Steinway to me sounds much better, it has a rich sound like no other piano. Actions can be regulated to the desire of the player. It is also a matter of personal taste, you have to sit down and play a piano to know if you like its sound. I believe both Fazioli and NY Steinway are great instruments, but you have to play them personaly to say which is your favorite. To me STEINWAY wins hands down, Fazioli sounds like a Kawai, very common.
fazioli vs. New York Steinway... fazioli wins. NY steinways have gone waaayyy down in quality over the last 20 yrs. imo, the ones being built now sound and feel like shit.
fazioli vs. Hamburg Steinway... very, very, difficult to say.
Folks! I play on my Fazioli 228 at home. I studied Rachmaninov Prelude in C sharp minor. The day I would perform this piano piece, I tried to play the Steinway. What struck me was a pure sound of disappointment. Fazioli is a wonderful instrument of another world. all mean Steinway is the best because they have one or they never tried a Fazioli. It's impossible to declare what instrument is best through such a record as this.
Fazioli...anyone who knows anything about handmade instruments knows there's no competition between an italian piano handmade by a musical genius and on overrated mass-produced piano
@whitneypowell1 Well..."hand-made" is something many people like to use just to market their pianos. It really counts if it's actually assembled manually. Like, Steinway, yes, there is a lot of manual labor...just like any piano company, but they still tend to use certain power tools here and there, which, believe it or not, do affect the sound it'll produce. I'm assuming this is more true with the New York Steinways, I don't know how true this is with the Hamburg ones...
I am weary of reading musical instrument reviews written in adjectives. We have sensing and recording and analyzing machinery that can produce a truly impartial comparison. Why not take advantage of our technology?
Funny you should mention the more analytical side of the issue. I came across some sound studies which compared some of the famous piano brands. A company by the name of Stonetone spearheaded these tests; they are experimenting with instruments which use granite bridges instead of the traditional wooden ones. What peaked my curiosity was that a piano with this new technology came out on top and Fazioli was second; graphs showing the sustain and full tonal resonance depicted this very clearly.
@whitneypowell1 FAzioli is all about marketing and PR. Doesn't impress me at all. I can tell you that the sound is not optimal by most musicians standards.
For Fazioli to think that he can accomplish in a few years what took piano companies hundreds of years to develop, is simply deluded. His pianos can hardly be compared with Steinway, Petrof, Yamaha, and so many other better brands. As soon as he stops the marketing and the PR his pianos and his brand will be forgotten.
@Ysacoelfua Oddly enough,i would have said that marketing& PR is one of Fazioli's weak points!Certainly it's nothing like on the scale or the budget of Yamaha or Steinway.
I'd also say it's deluded to consider that mankind has not accelerated in his knowledge in so many fields of invention& manufacture:why should Fazioli,or anyone today crawl along as if in the 1800's?He has fine materials & up to date competence.
@NOSEhow2LIV do you have an idea of how many brands of hand-made pianos exist? Visit a NAMM Show or Frankfurt Musikmesse. Fazioli is just one more among the crowd. That's all.
@Ysacoelfua I'm a regular at NAMM and Frankfart since early 80's,(and others,such as Shanghai... in recent years).I've played all sorts,and many vintage & restored Europeans as well.I like & appreciate a fine piano,but i love music even better.In my opinion,Fazioli is an exceptional piano of our times.OK,you don't like it,fair enough,but you are too extreme and don't make much sense on this subject.I don't "like"Yamahaha but still admit its reliable qualities &respect opinions.
@NOSEhow2LIV No matter how hard you and mr fazioli try to push it. Being an italian handmade piano doesn't mean much in today's globalized world. Fantastic hand made pianos are being made in China as we speak.
I'm sorry, but having an italian signature on your piano does not add value to it anymore.
@Ysacoelfua Not pushing anything,just enjoying playing!You seem obsessed with"brand"&Marketing,rather than music.A fine piano speaks for itself;i've sometimes found unexpected treasures,little known.
I also play a truly hand-made concert piano in China,constructed carefully by a good friend in Nanjing.
Seeing your obvious vendetta,for whatever reason,against Fazioli,and your incoherent statements &assumptions,there's little more to discuss.
@NOSEhow2LIV Actually, anybody reading this thread can realize that it's you who is incoherent in your comments and it's you who is obsessed with brand & marketing.
I just told you that an italian name on a piano doesn't add value to it in today's globalized world.
Many chinese hand-made pianos are far superior than fazioli AND guess what, they are more economic! I'm sorry but I'm not impressed by fazioli. I'd never pay thousounds of dollars for an italian name.
@whitneypowell1 The fact that Fazioli is handmade does not mean it is better. I've played on a Bösendorfer, a Steinway and a Fazioli. And I can say that the Fazioli was the worst. It's sound is poor compared the Steinway (or the Bösendorfer). I admit, it has a very soft touch, a TOO soft touch, so it's difficult to create rhe desired sound. Steinway has a much more powerful touch (if you know what I mean). So, conclusion : Fazioli is an extremely overpriced brand that lacks at musicality.
One thing of interest. My favorite pianos make me a much better player almost by magic. I can play chopin works flawlessly on Schimmel concert pianos, Bosendorfer 225, and a Stuart 2.2. I stumble with new works on all other makes like the pianist here does on the Steinway. After watching several times, I realize this pianist can play much better on the Fazioli.
I have played most Pianos except Fazioli in the past 18 months of searching. The Growl of the lower notes of a Hamburg Steinway D is more refined than the NY Steinway.but still more like a Beast.. Certain compositions favor that sound. The brightness of a Fazioli can be voiced down while still keeping the clear round tones. Fazioli has one important feature to tuning. It can be tuned in the duplex strings and primary strings to bring a harmonious sound. The Steinway has a fixed aliquot duplex
I've done recordings with the Fazioli F278 concert grand piano and love them very much. My favorite concert grand is still the Steinway model D274, as the tone is more to my preference. In my humble opinion the Fazioli just rocks with clarity. For raw power and tone, I prefer the Steinway, though its really all just subjective between two great concert grands.
They are very very close but personally for this one I prefer the Steinway. It's definitely brighter....yet clear still. It's got more of a louder, roaring sound at the base, as I heard. I think the Steinway is more powerful. The Fazioli is weaker. However, on the Mozart song, played in the other video, I think the Fazioli sounds better. But I prefer the Steinway still as my piano choice.
This is a tough decision. I personally prefer the Steinway, it sounds a bit brighter, but in the long run, it's very subjective, they're both practically flawless pianos.
The Fazioli has a clearer, brighter and more singing sound than the Steinway. The Fazioli seemed to be more responsive and easier for the pianist to play.
steinway better by so far , richer bass and clearer sound
dindan4 1 week ago
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antonio11900 1 month ago
I personally prefer the mellower sounds of a NY Steinway (not as bright as a Hamburg Steinway, as demonstrated in the video) or a Bosendorfer. Although it's known that Hamburg Steinway pianos are higher in quality than the ones made in New York, the NY Steinways have quite a charm that I find irresistible!
Between Bosendorfer and NY Steinway, I'd play rather play Bach, Mozart, Schubert or Debussy on a Bosendorfer while favoring NY Steinway for Beethoven, Liszt, Rachmaninoff or Prokofiev.
Pollinifan 1 month ago
Oh, Chopin could work on either piano!
Pollinifan 1 month ago
I personally prefer Bösendorfer. Steinway is no longer as good as it used to be, and Fazioli is a over-priced brand. $400000, are you serious ?
bfeyalcin 1 month ago
@bfeyalcin Are those still around? I thought they're yamaha now?
lisaking22 1 month ago
@lisaking22 Bösendorfer is owned by Yamaha, but it's still built in the foctory they used to be build.
bfeyalcin 1 month ago
It's not only the brand that matters but the quality of the piano. Because I've played twice on a Steinway D274 (in Ankara,Turkey) and listened to it a hundred time at least. It's a Hamburg Steinway. And I can say that it's a much better piano than that Steinway D274.
bfeyalcin 1 month ago
Da quanto ne so, la tastiera Steinway è la più difficile e il pianoforte ti offre una gamma più ampia di suoni, mentre il Fazioli credo che abbia un tasto più leggero. Purtroppo non ho mai avuto il piacere di suonare su un Fazioli, ma, dato che suono tutti i giorni su uno Steinway, vi posso assicurare che è una tastiera che metta alla prova, forse è la migliore per lo studio, e, comunque, ha un magnifico suono e una meccanica splendida. I bassi del Fazioli sembravano meno ricchi.
TheChopin37 1 month ago
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thrillscience 2 months ago
I like both fazioli and steinway. Though I still like the steinway pianos better, the bass in the Fazioli although great wasn't as good as steinway's. I liked the treble range of the fazioli a lot, it's very pure but i still like the steinway better.
quinn244 3 months ago
me gusta el fazioli con su sonido aterciopelado con eco y suave
esctierraylibertad 3 months ago
i dunno whats best but i have played both and they are a dream that i could never afford...
NullErbamser 3 months ago
98% of concert pianist chose Steinway. It is a very flaw observation to say that Steinway is a "mass production piano". It is an absolutely handmade piano. If Fazioli was as popular as Steinway, they would probably try to make one thousand pianos a year as well.
Both are great pianos to say the least, but Steinway has built a reputation of 158 years!
Let's wait for Fazioli to have 50 years and may this conversation take place again...
eacmusic 4 months ago
This is an interesting idea, and I think you can do better. Just record them both better, and the same way, with the same pianist, playing the same thing.
001Asoer 4 months ago
95% of concert pianists use the steinway...
Pilotsofer 5 months ago
From what I've heard, the Fazioli's are the more controllable and have a brilliant touch response. But I just don't like the sound as much as Steinway.
JairCrawford 5 months ago 2
En mi opinión esta comparativa es muy pobre. No es lo mismo escuchar percutir sin ninguna expresión a un individuo que no puede tocar sin equivocarse un ejercicio de lo más cuadrado a un verdadero pianista que pueda demostrar las capacidades de cada instrumento llevandolos al máximo. Por otro lado, es increible que habiendo videos aqui en yt como el de Boris Berezovsky tocando los trascendentales haya quien opine que el Stainway es un piano sobreestimado.
volodya75 5 months ago
this medium is so NOT the way to compare 2 pianos. The exercise does not
produce various sounds, voices, colors of the pianos.And the audio is less than ideal. Both instruments sound muffled, neither instrument is given the
opportunity to sing.
680stp 6 months ago
To my ear, Fazioli is brighter and more distinct throughout. With the Steinway, you get softer, more rounded, more colorful tones.Personally, I prefer the Fazioli.
Nail56 6 months ago
its not that I dont adore the Fazioli pianos but i really love Steinway pianos. I still believe that the tremble of the Fazioli pianos may be a bit better than that of the Steinway pianos. But the Steinway's bass is at least AMAZING! :)
I think that that pianist is very lucky to paly the same piece at both pianos and choose himself which is better
In conclusion, I would give anything to have a Steinway & Sons Model D because I think that its the BEST PIANO ever
kostaskoutsodimos 6 months ago
Steinway's bass is awesome. It's high register...not so much.
TheRockLover1000 7 months ago
Steinway for bass, Fazioli for treble.
TheRockLover1000 7 months ago
Steinway senza dubbio, almeno per il suono. Per la meccanica non posso dirlo, andrebbero provati entrambi.
maxpertile 8 months ago
I'm not sure a Brahms finger exercise is the best vehicle for this comparison. Plus how can we make a really informed judgement listening to an mpeg on YouTube? Like many aspects of art I would of thought it was a matter of personal taste.
etudepatetico 9 months ago
The Fazioli is very muddy in the low register compared to the Steinway. But it has more colour in the mid to high registers.
156769 10 months ago
steinway has a far more rich sound than fazioli, which has a clear and brighter sound, but the deepness isn't enough.
francovillanueva27 10 months ago
@francovillanueva27 Have you played a 6' foot (F183) Fazioli lately? If you ever had the pleasure of getting your hands on a recent opus, you might be tempted to rethink your position. I, frankly, don't see anything on the horizon that even remotely comes close to this piano.
ninemuses 10 months ago
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Have you played a 6' foot (F183) Fazioli lately? If you ever had the pleasure of getting your hands on a recent opus, you might be tempted to rethink your position. I, frankly, don't see anything on the horizon that even remotely comes close to this piano.
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@francovillanueva27 Have you played a 6' foot (F183) Fazioli lately? If you ever had the pleasure of getting your hands on a recent opus, you might be tempted to rethink your position. I, frankly, don't see anything on the horizon that even remotely comes close to this piano.
ninemuses 10 months ago
@francovillanueva27 Please excuse the extra postings...the way YouTube handles comments, you can't tell if the site accepted any replies.
ninemuses 10 months ago
The flagship instruments (more than 7') of major manufacturers such as Steinway (NY and Hamburg), Bosendorfer, Bechstein, and Fazioli all have beautiful qualities; their merits can be argued. But what about pianos in the 6' range? As far as I am concerned, Fazioli is the clear winner here. This is because the tail end is wider with more vibrating areas on the soundboard, helping it make a rich bass similar in scope to 7-footers. I have yet to run across anything comparable in the marketplace.
ninemuses 10 months ago
No two hand-built pianos will sound the same, even the same make/model, so you can't compare just from this video. Fazioli is the best piano I've personally played, like silk compared to Steinway (satin). I like think of Fazioli as the Ferrari of pianos and Steinway is the Bentley. But there's also a difference in Steinways to consider as well: NY Steinways and Hamburg Steinways. How can you possibly compare brands?
sdpianomom 10 months ago
Le Steinway est pas mal dans le medium, un peu creux dans les graves alors que le Fazioli est plein et rond. Quant aux aiguës c'est la banale catastrophe courante pour Steinway (et tous les autres), seul Fazioli a trouvé le moyen de faire sonner ces notes sans perte de puissance et sans ce martèlement sec qui initie le son... Du coup le passage des mediums aux aiguës est parfait, sans rupture de caractère.
pictorelle 11 months ago
I think the Fazioli is more of a classical repetoire type piano whereas the Steinway is more of a jazz, pop, rock type piano. I can clearly hear the timbre difference.
TheAll4juan 11 months ago
Steinway is hardly mass produced. Maybe they make more per year than Fazioli but Steinway is hand made. Watch the documentary "Note by Note Making a Steinway"
I think Steinway has has a warmer, richer sound.
lonegull 11 months ago
Steinway wins, it sounds richer.
crustylion321 11 months ago
I'll go with the Steinway. I've played on Fazioli pianos a few times, they tend to be very good when playing soft, but I feel like I have to put more effort into playing loud, I don't necessarily do that on Steinways. However, my favorite pianos are Blüthner pianos, because they respond to anything you do (as long as you've had proper training and have learned to control your dynamics). I played on one, and it's amazing how much little effort it takes from going extremely pp, to extremely ƒƒ.
mario54671 11 months ago
SORRY TO DISAGREE WITH FAZIOLI LOVERS, Steinway to me sounds much better, it has a rich sound like no other piano. Actions can be regulated to the desire of the player. It is also a matter of personal taste, you have to sit down and play a piano to know if you like its sound. I believe both Fazioli and NY Steinway are great instruments, but you have to play them personaly to say which is your favorite. To me STEINWAY wins hands down, Fazioli sounds like a Kawai, very common.
fernandogm77 11 months ago
Fazioli rulz! stainway's sound compared oof fazioli is terrible... sounds kile a dirt
WOWdato 1 year ago
@WOWdato Fazioli sounds like ur mother on her period, steinway wins it sounds richer
crustylion321 11 months ago
fazioli vs. New York Steinway... fazioli wins. NY steinways have gone waaayyy down in quality over the last 20 yrs. imo, the ones being built now sound and feel like shit.
fazioli vs. Hamburg Steinway... very, very, difficult to say.
pyroprince78 1 year ago
@pyroprince78
you haven't seen (heard) the one made in 1998, steinway B by some guy here
libetta 1 year ago
@pyroprince78 steinway wins, ur wrong. end of discussion
crustylion321 11 months ago
Folks! I play on my Fazioli 228 at home. I studied Rachmaninov Prelude in C sharp minor. The day I would perform this piano piece, I tried to play the Steinway. What struck me was a pure sound of disappointment. Fazioli is a wonderful instrument of another world. all mean Steinway is the best because they have one or they never tried a Fazioli. It's impossible to declare what instrument is best through such a record as this.
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PeterFerdinand96 1 year ago
@PeterFerdinand96 steinway has a richer sound
crustylion321 11 months ago
dude what are u playing its amazing??
777christianboy 1 year ago
@whitneypowell1
surely high-end Steinways are as handmade as anything
realitas 1 year ago
for a Fazioli to sound good it needs voiced just so......this one is not.....therefore all sorts of unpleasant sounds come out.
The Steinway is more reliable for good tone......as is evidenced here.
flugelmaniac 1 year ago
not to mention the fact that fazioli has a renner action...
whitneypowell1 1 year ago
Fazioli...anyone who knows anything about handmade instruments knows there's no competition between an italian piano handmade by a musical genius and on overrated mass-produced piano
whitneypowell1 1 year ago 11
FAZIOLI is an obedient piano to the touch of the keyboard.
However, it is a difficult piano to emit the sound the same as the desire.
IGA000TAKA 1 year ago 4
@whitneypowell1 Well..."hand-made" is something many people like to use just to market their pianos. It really counts if it's actually assembled manually. Like, Steinway, yes, there is a lot of manual labor...just like any piano company, but they still tend to use certain power tools here and there, which, believe it or not, do affect the sound it'll produce. I'm assuming this is more true with the New York Steinways, I don't know how true this is with the Hamburg ones...
mario54671 11 months ago
@whitneypowell1 Steinway Kicks faziolis ass, cause its handmade too, and it sounds richer.
crustylion321 11 months ago
@whitneypowell1
I am weary of reading musical instrument reviews written in adjectives. We have sensing and recording and analyzing machinery that can produce a truly impartial comparison. Why not take advantage of our technology?
sailorwannab 10 months ago
Funny you should mention the more analytical side of the issue. I came across some sound studies which compared some of the famous piano brands. A company by the name of Stonetone spearheaded these tests; they are experimenting with instruments which use granite bridges instead of the traditional wooden ones. What peaked my curiosity was that a piano with this new technology came out on top and Fazioli was second; graphs showing the sustain and full tonal resonance depicted this very clearly.
ninemuses 10 months ago
But it was noted that Fazioli was the best wooden bridge piano according to Stonetone research.
ninemuses 10 months ago
@whitneypowell1 Seinway's handmade too.
bfeyalcin 9 months ago
@whitneypowell1 bösendorfer best manufacture....
Handeltasche 6 months ago
@whitneypowell1 FAzioli is all about marketing and PR. Doesn't impress me at all. I can tell you that the sound is not optimal by most musicians standards.
For Fazioli to think that he can accomplish in a few years what took piano companies hundreds of years to develop, is simply deluded. His pianos can hardly be compared with Steinway, Petrof, Yamaha, and so many other better brands. As soon as he stops the marketing and the PR his pianos and his brand will be forgotten.
Ysacoelfua 1 month ago
@Ysacoelfua Oddly enough,i would have said that marketing& PR is one of Fazioli's weak points!Certainly it's nothing like on the scale or the budget of Yamaha or Steinway.
I'd also say it's deluded to consider that mankind has not accelerated in his knowledge in so many fields of invention& manufacture:why should Fazioli,or anyone today crawl along as if in the 1800's?He has fine materials & up to date competence.
But stay with Yamaha&Petrof if you prefer.
NOSEhow2LIV 1 week ago
@NOSEhow2LIV do you have an idea of how many brands of hand-made pianos exist? Visit a NAMM Show or Frankfurt Musikmesse. Fazioli is just one more among the crowd. That's all.
Ysacoelfua 1 week ago
@Ysacoelfua I'm a regular at NAMM and Frankfart since early 80's,(and others,such as Shanghai... in recent years).I've played all sorts,and many vintage & restored Europeans as well.I like & appreciate a fine piano,but i love music even better.In my opinion,Fazioli is an exceptional piano of our times.OK,you don't like it,fair enough,but you are too extreme and don't make much sense on this subject.I don't "like"Yamahaha but still admit its reliable qualities &respect opinions.
NOSEhow2LIV 1 week ago
@NOSEhow2LIV No matter how hard you and mr fazioli try to push it. Being an italian handmade piano doesn't mean much in today's globalized world. Fantastic hand made pianos are being made in China as we speak.
I'm sorry, but having an italian signature on your piano does not add value to it anymore.
Ysacoelfua 1 week ago
@Ysacoelfua Not pushing anything,just enjoying playing!You seem obsessed with"brand"&Marketing,rather than music.A fine piano speaks for itself;i've sometimes found unexpected treasures,little known.
I also play a truly hand-made concert piano in China,constructed carefully by a good friend in Nanjing.
Seeing your obvious vendetta,for whatever reason,against Fazioli,and your incoherent statements &assumptions,there's little more to discuss.
All the best.
NOSEhow2LIV 1 week ago
@NOSEhow2LIV Actually, anybody reading this thread can realize that it's you who is incoherent in your comments and it's you who is obsessed with brand & marketing.
I just told you that an italian name on a piano doesn't add value to it in today's globalized world.
Many chinese hand-made pianos are far superior than fazioli AND guess what, they are more economic! I'm sorry but I'm not impressed by fazioli. I'd never pay thousounds of dollars for an italian name.
Good luck!
Ysacoelfua 1 week ago
@whitneypowell1 The fact that Fazioli is handmade does not mean it is better. I've played on a Bösendorfer, a Steinway and a Fazioli. And I can say that the Fazioli was the worst. It's sound is poor compared the Steinway (or the Bösendorfer). I admit, it has a very soft touch, a TOO soft touch, so it's difficult to create rhe desired sound. Steinway has a much more powerful touch (if you know what I mean). So, conclusion : Fazioli is an extremely overpriced brand that lacks at musicality.
bfeyalcin 3 weeks ago
@whitneypowell1 The Steinway has a powerful touch and a very rich sound.
The Bösendorfer has a soft touch, easy to control, and a sound as rich as the Steinway's at least.
bfeyalcin 3 weeks ago
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HongChichLong 1 year ago
One thing of interest. My favorite pianos make me a much better player almost by magic. I can play chopin works flawlessly on Schimmel concert pianos, Bosendorfer 225, and a Stuart 2.2. I stumble with new works on all other makes like the pianist here does on the Steinway. After watching several times, I realize this pianist can play much better on the Fazioli.
jw2000cessna 1 year ago
I have played most Pianos except Fazioli in the past 18 months of searching. The Growl of the lower notes of a Hamburg Steinway D is more refined than the NY Steinway.but still more like a Beast.. Certain compositions favor that sound. The brightness of a Fazioli can be voiced down while still keeping the clear round tones. Fazioli has one important feature to tuning. It can be tuned in the duplex strings and primary strings to bring a harmonious sound. The Steinway has a fixed aliquot duplex
jw2000cessna 1 year ago 2
I've done recordings with the Fazioli F278 concert grand piano and love them very much. My favorite concert grand is still the Steinway model D274, as the tone is more to my preference. In my humble opinion the Fazioli just rocks with clarity. For raw power and tone, I prefer the Steinway, though its really all just subjective between two great concert grands.
hachoi23 1 year ago
They are very very close but personally for this one I prefer the Steinway. It's definitely brighter....yet clear still. It's got more of a louder, roaring sound at the base, as I heard. I think the Steinway is more powerful. The Fazioli is weaker. However, on the Mozart song, played in the other video, I think the Fazioli sounds better. But I prefer the Steinway still as my piano choice.
ethaninwhite 1 year ago
fazioli is dope
danielcorey21 1 year ago
Bosendorfer.
Maxobillion 1 year ago
Can i say that on Fazioli Grand has a nice, clear and gentle sound than Steinway Grand?
undestroyable 1 year ago 5
@undestroyable nope steinway wins
crustylion321 11 months ago
To me, the Fazioli has a clearer, brighter, more resilient sound. To do the test properly, the names should be masked and a vote should be taken.
mojazka 2 years ago 18
@mojazka steinway wins
crustylion321 11 months ago
@mojazka honestly, I find the sound quite comparable between a fazioli and any steinway that's in good shape
retrogamerdave 9 months ago
both pianos are fantastic!!!!!!
i would still choose the fazioli... i think it's like the stradivarius of the piano world... and they use better materials in the construction...
OneGreatPiano 2 years ago 2
This is a tough decision. I personally prefer the Steinway, it sounds a bit brighter, but in the long run, it's very subjective, they're both practically flawless pianos.
HAMayoral 2 years ago 3
Thank you for your valuable opinions.
Two pianos, a different ringing sounds for quite some time, than it is a big difference between the touch keyboard.
The gentle touch " FAZIOLI"
"Steinway" rich staged
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Thank you.
IGA000TAKA 2 years ago
@HAMayoral
This is comparing a Ferrari 308 to a Chrysler 300.
ORUPRANKSTAZ 1 year ago
fazioli is better
klavierhexe 2 years ago 3
The Fazioli has a clearer, brighter and more singing sound than the Steinway. The Fazioli seemed to be more responsive and easier for the pianist to play.
mirriwinni 1 year ago