u americans have these kinds of people that are fear mongering attention hores in your house and senate, and i feel sorry for you guys. that was the most pathetic speech i had ever heard.
I have to wonder what the R's will reap from having their 'distinguished members' stand up in the House of Representatives and lie so baldly and irresponsibly about their political opponents. This guy knows what totalitarianism and communism are, and he knows they have nothing to do with the health care reform, which is based on private-sector competition. He's just lying to his ignorant followers, and it's a disgrace.
I don't think the republicans actually care about keeping Americans alive anymore if they don't have the cash to do it themselves....so i guess we're headed to a future where people who have enough money to live....live...and the poor are the new slaves to health insurance premiums just for getting older.
...Man what? There's nothing remotely socialist about the bill at all! Did he even READ it?
Oh, but that would require a modicum of independent thought from the guy who tried to demand an apology from black representatives for being called ni*s, nvm!
Keep your eye on all those hypothetical dangers of government regulation, and ignore completely the raping and pillaging of Americans by the private health insurance industry happening NOW. We are not working for a socialist utopia, but sure as hell aren't going to welcome the capitalist distopia occurring right in front of us. This asshat is providing cover for the greedy as usual.
Couldnt agree with you more. Those bastards won't even admit their true position because it's so politically toxic. Instead they use fear and hyperbole, all while allowing americans to die without care, and worse still, shitting on conservatism. The bill will save money AND lives.
These same arguments and unfounded accustations of socilism were leveled by Republicans against Socail Security Medicare as well as the New Deal.
Today these programs are LUADED for being the most succesful and benificial programs in HISTORY.
This leaves two possibilities: 1)Socailsim works or 2) these programs werent socialist AT ALL and the Republicans have simply been fear mongering for more than half a century........... (psssst its #2)
some politicians, especially in the us, should go back to school and learn a bit about political systems, especially about labelling them according to features. hc = socialism? lol!
@PersonalJesus348 Communism as practiced in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was a form of socialism. Fascism, as practiced in Nazi Germany and Mussolini's Italy is another form of socialism. Look it up. The linear, left-right spectrum model is too simple to capture the complexity of the political landscape. Your thinking is limited by a bad model.
You are a faithful little Glenn Beck echo machine.
Fascism is the merger of corporate and state interests. Communism is an extreme form of Marxist socialism, which has absolutely nothing to do with the thriving first-world countries around the world today that proudly call their systems Democratic Socialism. They are not authoritarian, nor totalitarian, they are run by, for, and with the consent of the governed.
Capitalism is not mutually exclusive to totalitarianism. Case in point: China.
@hergs China is 140th on the HeritageDOT org index of economic freedom out of about 180 nations. Even France is more capitalistic than China is. I agree that fascism is the merger of corporate and state interests, and this is where we are heading in the US today, with the govt requiring us to buy health ins from pvt corps. Under communism, the state owns the means of production. Under fascism corps are "merged." Only a very subtle difference. France is not extreme socialism. Cuba is.
CAPITALISM does not always equate to ECONOMIC FREEDOM. China is emblematic of that. They are very capitalistic, but it is not democratic capitalism.
GOVT REGULATION of private industry is NOT friendly to FASCISM. There is more regulation than giveaways to insurance companies in this bill.
France does have a system of extreme democratic socialism. Cuba has a system of extreme Marxist socialism. They are very different systems, one is democracy, the other is authoritarian communism.
@hergs What is your definition of capitalism? I think it is the free market. Big corps LIKE regulation. They can deal with it better than small corps, so it winds up protecting them from competition. This leads to fascism. Big corps LIKE tight regs. It draws them closer to the regulators, just as in your def. of fascism. The HC bill FORCES people to buy ins! Millions of new customers, and the govt is forcing them! This is fascism. Both France and Cuba are socialistic. Cuba more so.
IMPEACH THE OBAMA PELOSI REID MACHINE NOW! NO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!!!! WE DONT WANT CUBAN STYLE HEALTHCARE MR SOETORO GO BACK TO KENYA WHERE YOU WERE POSSIBLY BORNn
The kind of combination of shamelessness & despair on display on Capitol Hill today reminds me of the scene from Jerry Maguire when he's trying to keep Cuba Gooding Jr's character in as a client.
Most Americans don't even know what socialism is, and this man is taking advantage of that. He knows it has negative connotations and uses it as a talking point.
GOP is using the word 'socialist' to bring an emotional response because they have no facts on their side. It is really just a smoke screen for big corporations over the people.
It's a Republican proposal that the House is passing. First building on what Nixon and Eisenhower supported - a private insurance system - and expanding that with an individual mandate. There's no Public Option (which was a compromise from single-payer already) and nothing to challenge the hospital chains, AMA, nothing.
It's a right-wing bill. What kind of crack are these people on??
So NoCen, you figure the US, alone among Western democracies, is the only country that can't afford to give all of its citizens decent health care. What is it that makes us so uniquely incapable?
@sidplicity and let's not forget that the same republicans who hated medicare and called it socialism under Reagan are the ones who chant "Keep your hands off my Medicare" at tea party rallies.
u americans have these kinds of people that are fear mongering attention hores in your house and senate, and i feel sorry for you guys. that was the most pathetic speech i had ever heard.
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fuckaroni77 1 year ago
Give me socialism-Capitalism is turning into an utter failure.
Its given me plastics that cause cancer, food that is killing us, and social culture that values conflict and violence over everything.
sacredskeptic 1 year ago
I'm from Canada and I have universal health care. Does that mean I'm a communist? Because that would be news to me.
min7b20billion 1 year ago
The country I live in considers this to be a communist bill; so yeah I guess your a communist and I am too.
Zombiesasquatch 1 year ago
where is the socialized medicine in this bill? Please tell me. I'd MUCH rather have socialized medicine over what we currently have.
scbluesman13 1 year ago
GOP= lying douche-bags.
treid100182 1 year ago
Actually I'd give my left arm for socialized medicine over this bill.
SJamesGray 1 year ago
I have to wonder what the R's will reap from having their 'distinguished members' stand up in the House of Representatives and lie so baldly and irresponsibly about their political opponents. This guy knows what totalitarianism and communism are, and he knows they have nothing to do with the health care reform, which is based on private-sector competition. He's just lying to his ignorant followers, and it's a disgrace.
SonnyDL 1 year ago
Guess we better give up our socialized education system and police force
LegendaryOPS 1 year ago
I don't think the republicans actually care about keeping Americans alive anymore if they don't have the cash to do it themselves....so i guess we're headed to a future where people who have enough money to live....live...and the poor are the new slaves to health insurance premiums just for getting older.
Xceles618 1 year ago
This guy is either an idot or a liar. This bill is no where near socialized medicine.
bonzaidave2 1 year ago
Wait... why did he say communist? Why did he say totalitarianism? What the fuck?
LovelesEntertainment 1 year ago
...Man what? There's nothing remotely socialist about the bill at all! Did he even READ it?
Oh, but that would require a modicum of independent thought from the guy who tried to demand an apology from black representatives for being called ni*s, nvm!
ladyhrist 1 year ago
Yes. Communism. Right. -_-
bleunt 1 year ago
So since we're the only industrialized nation that doesn't have socialized health care... are we the only non-communist country?
Canada? Australia? Great Britain? Etc... they're all "Communist" countries according to the GOP.
CynicalSavior 1 year ago 5
What an asshat. He can't actually believe that stuff, can he? Are these people that out of touch with reality?
historygeek2007 1 year ago
Idiocracy
lookslikepat 1 year ago
what a fuckwit
ashtool 1 year ago
Keep your eye on all those hypothetical dangers of government regulation, and ignore completely the raping and pillaging of Americans by the private health insurance industry happening NOW. We are not working for a socialist utopia, but sure as hell aren't going to welcome the capitalist distopia occurring right in front of us. This asshat is providing cover for the greedy as usual.
j0hnwi11iams 1 year ago
Couldnt agree with you more. Those bastards won't even admit their true position because it's so politically toxic. Instead they use fear and hyperbole, all while allowing americans to die without care, and worse still, shitting on conservatism. The bill will save money AND lives.
Emperordante 1 year ago
Does this guy even know what totalitarianism means? Does he realize he wouldn't even be able to make such accusations in a totalitarian society?
p00lman 1 year ago
Utopia? It works in Hawaii, Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Spain, Switzerland, the Neatherland etc...
Churchx77 1 year ago
"The goal of Socialism is communism."- Vladmir Lenin
benacker1983 1 year ago
thanks to you repug fuckers, a little socialist utopia sounds pretty nice right about now.
junkforkaryn 1 year ago
These same arguments and unfounded accustations of socilism were leveled by Republicans against Socail Security Medicare as well as the New Deal.
Today these programs are LUADED for being the most succesful and benificial programs in HISTORY.
This leaves two possibilities: 1)Socailsim works or 2) these programs werent socialist AT ALL and the Republicans have simply been fear mongering for more than half a century........... (psssst its #2)
ZingZee123456789 1 year ago 2
some politicians, especially in the us, should go back to school and learn a bit about political systems, especially about labelling them according to features. hc = socialism? lol!
reeft 1 year ago
What a maroon
integral 1 year ago
Republicant's -- on the wrong side of history when it came to social security, medicare, and now health care reform.
Hatalles 1 year ago
totalitarianism? As if socialism/communism/totalitarianism go hand in hand..
Keszler 1 year ago
But they do.
Hitler's Germany, the USSR, North Korea, Cuba...
These are all totalitarian. They are also socialist.
Fascism and Communism are merely the most extremely implemented forms of socialism.
The most extreme implementation of socialism IS totalitarianism.
They go hand in hand.
freesk8 1 year ago
@freesk8
What?
Communsim = Right wing
Socialism = Left wing
look it up
PersonalJesus348 1 year ago
I hope you are trolling. If not, you are shockingly stupid.
Communism=left wing
Socialism= less left wing
Emperordante 1 year ago
@Emperordante
Trolling? that's before my time kid
PersonalJesus348 1 year ago
freesk8 1 year ago
You are a faithful little Glenn Beck echo machine.
Fascism is the merger of corporate and state interests. Communism is an extreme form of Marxist socialism, which has absolutely nothing to do with the thriving first-world countries around the world today that proudly call their systems Democratic Socialism. They are not authoritarian, nor totalitarian, they are run by, for, and with the consent of the governed.
Capitalism is not mutually exclusive to totalitarianism. Case in point: China.
hergs 1 year ago
freesk8 1 year ago
@freesk8
CAPITALISM does not always equate to ECONOMIC FREEDOM. China is emblematic of that. They are very capitalistic, but it is not democratic capitalism.
GOVT REGULATION of private industry is NOT friendly to FASCISM. There is more regulation than giveaways to insurance companies in this bill.
France does have a system of extreme democratic socialism. Cuba has a system of extreme Marxist socialism. They are very different systems, one is democracy, the other is authoritarian communism.
hergs 1 year ago
freesk8 1 year ago
IMPEACH THE OBAMA PELOSI REID MACHINE NOW! NO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!!!! WE DONT WANT CUBAN STYLE HEALTHCARE MR SOETORO GO BACK TO KENYA WHERE YOU WERE POSSIBLY BORNn
savior02 1 year ago
@savior02 Shirley, you must be joking
integral 1 year ago
Ha ha ha ha!!! The "Red Scare" is back, baby!
ghostofmatsubara 1 year ago
YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN!
Wintermute01001 1 year ago 2
This is the same guy who said that protesters who used racial epithets yesterday were justified, because the socialist Democrats made them angry.
Bobchai 1 year ago 2
The kind of combination of shamelessness & despair on display on Capitol Hill today reminds me of the scene from Jerry Maguire when he's trying to keep Cuba Gooding Jr's character in as a client.
IAMtheNewWorldOrder 1 year ago
So, all of the developed nations that actually have national health care systems are totalitarian socialist regimes?
The rhetoric coming from the opposition has become so extreme that I can't believe anyone takes it seriously. The fact that many do is pretty scary.
PJDolan1 1 year ago 3
All hierarchical systems will take your freedom.
Call it what you want but if it has a leader it doesn't have freedom.
CosmosPrivateer 1 year ago
Gop are a bunch of sissie crybabys. They know once it's here there lies will be apperant and they will not be able to remove it.
ETericET 1 year ago 9
totalitarianism?
danthemango 1 year ago
Most Americans don't even know what socialism is, and this man is taking advantage of that. He knows it has negative connotations and uses it as a talking point.
xxxFaustusxxx 1 year ago 14
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lhooq21 1 year ago
GOP is using the word 'socialist' to bring an emotional response because they have no facts on their side. It is really just a smoke screen for big corporations over the people.
lhooq21 1 year ago 29
@lhooq21
thats why they say "its not about the uninsured"
As if tens of millions of people without health insurance isn't the issue...heartless bastards!
micahgee 1 year ago
It's a Republican proposal that the House is passing. First building on what Nixon and Eisenhower supported - a private insurance system - and expanding that with an individual mandate. There's no Public Option (which was a compromise from single-payer already) and nothing to challenge the hospital chains, AMA, nothing.
It's a right-wing bill. What kind of crack are these people on??
Zakdayak 1 year ago 20
@Zakdayak
it looks very close to the bill proposed by the GOP to counter the Clinton bill.
The individual mandate was the alternative to the employer mandate. Remember "individual responsibility" right?
Now they pretend its some kind of socialist plot to kill grandma and babies...pure and utter bullshit
micahgee 1 year ago
Exactly, except I wouldn't want to insult the word "bullshit" to describe the nonsense. Its even worse than that.
Zakdayak 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Socialism is supposed to be a co-operative.
THIS is COMMUNISM.
NoCensorshipYT 1 year ago
@NoCensorshipYT
Ah yes, I remember the part of the bill where they included a government monopoly over all aspects of the economy.
Come now, are you really that retarded, or do you just act that way?
greyflcn 1 year ago 8
@greyflcn
You progressives are insane.
This BILL will REPEAL itself.
HOW?
Easy, WE CAN'T AFFORD it.
It will DRAMATICALLY increase UNEMPLOYMENT and put small business, OUT OF BUSINESS.
It will REPEAL itself.
The people will DEMAND it!
NoCensorshipYT 1 year ago
So NoCen, you figure the US, alone among Western democracies, is the only country that can't afford to give all of its citizens decent health care. What is it that makes us so uniquely incapable?
SonnyDL 1 year ago
@NoCensorshipYT lol. That was a joke, right?
chillmonster 1 year ago
@chillmonster
You mean the THUMBS down HONOR.
Oh PLEASE keep it coming!
And as I can see, you progressives being the good little Nanny State SHEEPLE you are......YOU COMPLY!!!
My point is MADE.
NoCensorshipYT 1 year ago
There's a good reason for conservatives' fear of government - they suck at electing leaders. And this video demonstrates that fundamental truth.
47f0 1 year ago 21
Let's see this was said about social security, medicare, civil rights. Damn I missed my chairman Mao meeting. What a load of garbage.
sidplicity 1 year ago 19
@sidplicity and let's not forget that the same republicans who hated medicare and called it socialism under Reagan are the ones who chant "Keep your hands off my Medicare" at tea party rallies.
robbyg74 1 year ago 2
What a dishonest and sad liar Nunes is.
jensen1901 1 year ago 12