I watched this movie called 180 movie it was very good if you are pro-life or pro-choice, watch this award winning documentary and see where you stand at the end.
There is a reason that people call a fetus a fetus and not a baby or a person. In my opinion a fetus only becomes a human once it is delivered by its mother and has its first breath.
Dr. Nathanson was born JEWISH, became and OB/GYN and later converted to Catholicism. That means he could not prescribe or endorse artificial contraceptives. What did he do after that? Would you let this guy deliver YOUR baby?
nickelly7440 your a fucking idiot....do me favor and look up partial birth abortion and then tell me its not murder....then actually research when a baby moves on its own in the womb and has a heart beat...then tell me its not murder...dont worry ill wait cause it will never happen. People who are uneducated agree with abortion.if you actually knew what it was you wouldnt say that and if u knew and still thought that your a sick fuck and God will take care of you and other sick people out there
nickelly7440 your a fucking idiot....do me favor and look up partial birth abortion and then tell me its not murder....then actually research when a baby moves on its own in the womb and has a heart beat...then tell me its not murder...dont worry ill wait cause it will never happen. People who are uneducated agree with abortion..if you actually knew what it was you wouldnt say that and if u knew and still thought that your a sick fuck and God will take care of you and other sick people out there
Bogus Criticism of "Silent Scream" #2 (of 2). "Fetal head at 12 wks gestation doesn't require the use of 'crushing instrument' for extraction during abortion procedure (@ 5:19)". At the time this film was made (1984), a leading abortionist (Warren Hern) had pointed out that the average diameter for the baby's head at this point was 18 mm. Due to maternal health risks, the cervix wasn't dilated more than 10 mm for a 12 wk abortion. Thus, the baby's skull was crushed up for removal.
Bogus Criticism of "Silent Scream" #1 (of 2). "Contrary to what the film says (@ 1:00), genuine brain waves do not occur in the fetus until the third trimester." Brain waves of unborn babies have been noted as early as 6 weeks after fertilization. The use of the word "genuine" is a smokescreen. Brain waves either exist or they don't exist. The brain functioning is detectable at this early age. It becomes more mature as the pregnancy progresses.
Abortion isnt murder...its a mindless moving vegetable....having brainwaves means shit....plants have waves.....there sint really much difference at that stage......fucking christians
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I believe in abortion. The cause of all human suffering is the overpopulation of the world and the lack of reasorces available. With too many people already it is an act of mercy to pick off another eater. The real question here is not if abortion is good but in what way can it be used to better human life?
if you really think that murdering others is okay in order to keep the world less populated than you should go die as well. After all the world's better off that way, isn't it?
how can someone sit there and know whats going to happen to the baby yet follow through with getting an abortion? wow u can give the baby up for adoption not fucking kill it ! everyone deserves a chance at life , thats fucked up.
no one can say what should or shouldnt be just offer opinion,my opinion is abortion should be illegal if you dont want the little bastard just adopt it out,but dont kill it,thats murder!
what happens if a 14 year old gets raped by mentally handicapped man and ends up pregnant. not only can she not afford it but the chances of her surviving the pregnancy are slim...
A 14 year old girl's body should be very much able to survive a pregnancy. But, she can always have a C-section if she does have complications.
She could then very easily adopt it. According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, there are about 600,000 couples in search of adopting a child every year, but the number of adoptions occurring every year is about 1/3 that number. It's sad that a lot of the babies being aborted could of made one of these couples very happy.
then you kill the rapist not the poor baby. and the fact of the matter is over 95% of abortions are not from any kind of rape or incest, just plain murder.
really? well, what do you suppose they did in the late 1800's, when it was common for girls to be married by 14, or even earlier. when they got pregnant, did they just have abortions? no!- as long as a girl has had a menstrual period, she is fully capable of physically delivering a child. its mother nature.
wait wait hold up- lets put this straight out there- abortion is a persons right- and sometimes its not only cuz they dont want the baby- but because its can affect their job, health or the person knows they dont have responsiblity and cant take care of the baby. NUMBER 2- its not like people have sex and boom expect a baby, thhings just happen and sumtimes the condom breaks or the birth control pillz fails-and this is coming from a freakin 14 year old
you say that has it is so easy, u say its pplz right yes in special circumstances eg fro health if ur condom slit or pills fail u accidently fall pregnant then who gives you the right to go and kill a human being just because u got a job or ur not financially stable wat a excuse cum on u cud always give the baby up for adoption ders plently of women out der who are dieing for a baby.....
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Yummy, yummy, yummy, I've got abortions in my tummy! LOL! Deep fried to a crisp golden brown and covered with hot sauce (with "Sweet Home Alabama" playing in the background), the dead embryos hit the spot! Also, take home our roasted fetus meal, so tender and juicy you've gotta taste what's cooking at KFE (Kentucky Fried Embryos) LOL!
Sueezee,, will always resort to bashing your use of words, grammar and puncuation, when she has been cornered by logic and can't properly dispute. That's her maturity level.
well thats kinda gross, not too happy i watched that one, its a tough argument and i guess people just have to be aware there are two sides to everything, at no time i have ever seen a girl happy to go get an abortion, so people try to be somewhat sensitive, i know that asking alot
Abortion is disgusting. My daughter was born prem - she got have been an abortion 10 years ago. Abortion is murder and it affects the woman who aborts. so its bad for the mum too.
omg what the fuck is that how can any one stand to murder someone i dont give a fuck if its unborn or not that has to stop yes i know over population well dont be irresponcible and maybe this shitt wouldnt happen its not the kids fault dont blame them
EXTREMELY valid point.. canubelieve!! Bravo. Sadly, the ones on here like Sueezee are fighting with extreme denial and aren't rational thinkers. They can't even debate properly without controlling their angry, general hatred, insults and name calling. Very juevy.
this guy is a former abortionist. he performed thousands of abortions before he realized what he was doing was incredibly immoral and sick. now he's pro-life and makes educational videos about abortion like this one.
I don't know why homophobia came up here. Although I am not against gay's or lesbian's in the least. Although I am against abortion unless there are complications with the child or mother.
Everyone who is anti abortion should be adopting kids, and funding our jail systems, since thats where all unwanted babies end up. Nice, they want to bring unwanted children into the world, but don't do a damn for them once they are here.
NO, people who dont want children should keep their pants on! if you decide to take them off, be prepared to take responsibilty. abortion is just evil and it blows my mind how people try to rationalize it.
FYI...Go to bjwinslow dot/com (thats just ONE) click on "fetuses" on top to see all the rubber fetuses available, that are used on YT prolife videos & different websites. They can be dressed up in blood, black coloring to represent "burning", and all sorts of wonderful little visual "tricks". People, please think before believing ANY picture you see. You owe it to yourself to be educated.
My neice miscarried at home and the little body was perfectly formed and fit in her hand. She saw the heartbeat on ultrasound weeks before. Abortion kills babies and it hurts them. Women should give 9 months of their life for another and give it to someone who cant have any)like my 16 yr old mom did) instaed of kill it selfishly.....9 little months
ronpaul:My neice miscarried at home and the little body was perfectly formed and fit in her hand So what?
ron:Abortion kills babies Thats been the idea all along!
ron: and give it to someone who cant have any Of course, put that child with the 240,000 other kids up for adoption today! lets just keep throwing kids into dog pound like invironments, waiting for someone to pick them to love, as they are feed by government employees! LOve the kids more than you hate abortion!!!!
Nice, you have come up with every argument for, and justification for killing unborn babies. Consider this: the men feeding the gas chambers with Jews a while back did not see their victims as human. They were for the most part, not psychotic individuals. They were systematically desensitized to the point where killing them seemed natural and normal. They could probably come up with dozens of arguments, much like you, to 'prove' that what they were doing was right.
Perhaps before you attempt a refutement you should learn to construct a proper sentence in English, I really have no idea what you were trying to say. Nor do I care, you are obviously a spokesperson for an obscene and wicked practice. My point, which you labored to ignore, was that otherwise sane people can be desensitized to the point where killing does not affect them. Whatever. This is my last comment on this.
can:Perhaps before you attempt a refutement you should learn to construct a proper sentence in English,
LOL, I love ad hominems!!
can: My point was that otherwise sane people can be desensitized to the point where killing does not affect them
A rediculous comment! ALL women abort for the first time, with only weeks to make a decision. To believe the even 25 million of the 50 million legal abortion were done because women were desensitized, is absurd.
squeeze, what does good english have to do with proper arguments. So everyone else in the world cannot express an opinion unless they speak and write good english?
Fascism really is your default mode is it not. No wonder you are so arrogant; you think it is OK to destroy a human life without the slightest emotion or regard. Hitler and his cohort, MARGARET SANGER would be proud. Do you favor killing off all the Jews or all the blacks first?
can:They were for the most part, not psychotic individuals. They were systematically desensitized to the point where killing them seemed natural and normal. They could probably come up with dozens of arguments, much like you, to 'prove' that what they were doing Are you saying abortion docs are desensitized?
Hah! I'm so glad I'm a lesbian & I don't have to get an abortion.Those instruments looked scary..If prolifers really want to stop abortions, they should encourage homosexuality.^.^You can't make a baby without the sperm or egg...Mwuahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha
inkaca, sorry but some animals are gay, and if there are gays and if you truly understand the bible you would know god created EVERYBODY in his image...right?!most gays dont murder,steal,rape, or touch lil boys. all of which "straight" preists do, anyways i dont want to get into it w/ u about "god" but abortion is more normal than you think, "god" did give us the ability and knowledge to perform such a procedure, why not take advantage of it?
Name an animal thats gay? and of course more straight people do because theres more straight people on the planet right? and gays don't murder? jeffery domer? the man who raped then murdered other males then ate them...lol yea but gays don't do that.
youre saying you never heard of a dog fucking another dog? both of which being male? that would be gay right? jeffrey dahmer...ONE gay serial killer and he made it big. as far as im concerned he was just regulating a little bit of the population.
The other male dog isn't going to be Willingly fucked by the other dog is he? The other dog probably wont get his penis close to the other male dog before that other dog turns around and bites him in the face. And gay Male Priests are a small part of the population also correct?
Don't waste your time with this guy.Hes just another homophobe using god to forward his own agenda.And yes there are gay animals, I googled it, and technically humans are animals. ^.^
The first doctor (doesn't even deserve a capitol in his position) refers to the fetis as a "child" They guy doing the abortion referst to this poor baby as a child yet he still kills it. Wow. You so called doctors should be in jail.
This is first time i agree with Sueezee, and that is the comment to Ashley. However,, not ALL prolifers are so vile. I can not, and will NEVER claim to know who goes to hell. Though abortion is murder, in God's eyes,, and HE will be the judge of our fate,, only HE knows the entire situation and how much the mother REALLY understood,,, most really don't know all the facts,,biologically or spiritually.
Just so you know, these dead embryos don't feel anything. I don't mean to generalize, but most of you pro-life people value the unborn more than the grown. You have no problem with the death of real human beings, who actually have feelings, self-awareness, brains. Please hear me out. Is it worse to kill an unborn person, who doesn't breathe, doesn't feel, isn't aware of it's own existence, or to have that same embryo grown into a child, and live with a struggling parent?
i hope that bitches insides rot out and she dies a horrid death then burns in hell for the rest of her days...but even that would be to good for her. they should do it with out anestesia...
ashely:i hope that bitches insides rot out and she dies a horrid death then burns in hell for the rest of her days...but even that would be to good for her. they should do it with out anestesia... Oh, I just love reading all the intelligent comments by pro-lifers.lol
sueezee, although I understand the emotional content of such an issue, your hateful speech shows just how human we all are and that to bring god down to your level is horrible. cant you imagine a god greater than yourself?
anyhow when it comes to death for anothers pleasure or ends of a means, by your reteoric you should rot in hell for all the animals you eat, the insects you have killed and the ongoing human population explosion thats killing many species. humans are not above all life.
I don't believe in a "god". I believe in gods and goddesses, 'cause I'm Wiccan, and no, we don't worship the devil, there is no devil in the craft.Satanists worship the devil.I'm a vegan, but am pro-choice, not pro-abortion.I believe in a woman's right to choose her own decisions, but not chosen for her.I don't beleive you should get an abortion everytime you get preggers.If people used birth control properly, there would be less abortions.
I used to be wiccan so theres no need to educate me about the religion, however I see its more aimed for everyone to know. anyhow my reply was to sueezee on what I thought was hateful banter.However I realize looking at it again, she was stealing an identity to make a point.
its like your dening your human nature, people kill, we destory and we have done so since the beginning we can be cruel yet while some take pleasure in it others dont. "humans are not above all life" we outsmart all other animal life we are complex in heart but an animal when we destroy
If people didnt want a fukkin child den y tha fukk u have sex unprotected... n den u kill the baby!! just a murderer i dnt c how this shit can be legal! who ever has had a abortion i want yu 2 fink what wud happen if yur mum aborted yu. selfish bitch!!
Sacramento, Aug 11, 2008 (CNA).- A California judge has ruled against Planned Parenthood and its allies who challenged the content of a voter information pamphlet's arguments in support of Proposition 4, a ballot measure requiring abortionists to notify at least one adult relative before performing an abortion on a minor.The arguments reference the story of "Sarah," a 15-year-old who died in 1994 after suffering complications from a secretly obtained legal abortion.
The truth is very simple. Would it be murder to kill a baby five minutes after it's born? Then why isn't it murder to kill it ten minutes or months earlier? IT IS MURDER Pure and simple. I know a lot of you have done it, and believe it or not, that's OK! Just ask God to forgive you (he will), and ask him into your heart. Help us stop all of this murdering. Currently 1.3 million abortions are performed each year in the United States. There have been over 46 million since 1973. THIS MUST STOP!!!!!
thats seriously a stretch if anyone says something about that, that literally prevents fertilization from even happening, thus preventing a baby, embryo, fetus, life, or however u define it, from even occuring, if thats not responsible, i dont kno what is.
how come people can do such thing? the life is the most precious gift that God gave us. the poor baby is the flesh of your flesh and blood of your blood, then your killing yourself too :( have mercy , if you dont want a baby makes some abstinence for yourself :(
what if your child has some horrific genetic deffect. Are you a better person for making them live a life in a broken body? Or mind? I think not.If you wouldnt want your worst enemy living that life, why would you want your child to suffer through it if you had a choice. like i said before abortion is a personal choice. people who are against it shouldn't do it. and people who have reason to do so should, if they require it. period end of storey.
are u fuckign serious.. a defect? what do we have today that technology cant cure.. my brother has marfons , heart defect and someother problems.. my mother never thought to kill him.. that is just fucking sick. why is it that usa first thought is to get rid and kill humanity
who are you to assume we can't cure it? I was born with a genetic defect in which aspartame destroys my nerves. I spent alot of my childhood recovering from just one allergic reaction at 5ish. Most of my childhood was twitches, spasms, the occasional asthma attack, and constantly touching things an even number of times along with repeating things I said.
I suffered alot, but I lived. I wouldn't want to die just because I'm suffering. Who are you to assume for these kids?
Gorman:Why does beginning a bad life mean you have to stay that way? Read the psychology of what starting off in an undesirable lifestyle does to people. Look at the childhoods of 95% of the prison population.
well acctuly they invented the morning after pill so you dnt get pregnent wen the condom breaks so why dont ppl yose that instead of killing children and well if they are going to get depretion for raising a kid for 20 years there is a thing called adoption you dnt have to kill babies its f..... horrible
Sorry friend,, the morning after pill does NOT prevent pregnancy,, it only prevents the fertilized egg from being able to stay implanted and comes out with the next period. Life is still destroyed with that pill,, sorry to burst your bubble.
YEah but you take it early on when the fertilized egg is at leat a bunch of cells. sorry to burst your bubble, I wouldn't get it, but I think its way f'n better than getting an abortion.
HI:) I"m a proud American Pro LIFE advocate. My goal is to continue the fight against this atrocity, so that our government will not shame itself any further on this issue.. Please pray for us!:)
Where, in the Constitution, does it give a woman the right to take a life as a means of birth control?
How can any other human being be so blind as to accept this atrocity?
Women who are immoral and selfish getting pregnant by the thousands and simply walking into a clinic & murdering innocent life while liberals, secular humanists and atheists in complete apathy stand by and support it..
I avoid the reality because I DONT HAVE A WOMB its not my perspective to tote.
Once again, since when is it morally just for people to abuse the judicial system to impose their personal beliefs on others?
There should be more separation between so-called moral agendas and the state, you think that its immoral? dont do it. but mind your own business when it comes to other people's choices.
Speaking of society, murder and morals, where in your constitution does it say that its ok to interfere with foreign democracies and murder people half way around the world to rape thier natural resources (Iraq).
thank god i dont bear the shame of being an american
One more thing to point out. We are men. we have no place in this debate because we DONT HAVE WOMBS!
drug use is an interesting diversion from your weak points (apples and oranges, so lets stay on topic here).
We already know that banning abortion creates more bad than good, so thats out. the only thing left to fight here is morally-driven patriarchy, which ironically is a form of ethical hypocrisy.
Youre right, a nation of hypocrites does deserve the wrath of the divine.
"I love how people who denounce abortion call themselves pro-life, when what they really are is anti-choice. If they were concerned with life, they would consider quality of life over quantity"
Who are you to say what the quality of life will be for an unborn child?
There are children who overcome every form of abuse and neglect?
There are also children who come from wealthy and seemingly well adjusted families who grow up in complete misery...
tell me what's NOT immoral about not minding your own business when it comes to a woman's right (yes a right) to not want to have kids (and still be sexual) if she doesnt want to? I suppose condoms (which can fail - but hey, a broken condom is divine intervention, right?) are immoral too?
I love how people who denounce abortion call themselves pro-life, when what they really are is anti-choice. If they were concerned with life, they would consider quality of life over quantity. Perhaps someone should post video of women who have died either through injury, suicide or poisoning b/c these services were not made accessible to them. Funny how men think that they can make decisions that tell women what they cannot do with their bodies.
I agree with you. I'm generally "anti-choice" as you say, but in the end that's something we can't ban. Somebody somewhere is going to find a way. I've known a handful of girls die from injuries trying to force miscarriage or suicide, and even more who died from complications because they were denied the choice. It's not a birth control, we can all agree on that, but you're definitely right.
"as sad and disturbing as this is, pro-life people must understand that if abortion became illegal, it would go underground as it was before Roe vs. Wade. There would be street abortions, more babies in dumpsters, more controversy- it just wouldn't be good"
At least it would not be done with our approval.
If a woman wants to have sex irresponsibly, then she needs to be accountable for the results.
No doubt, the child is as deserving to live as the mother who is willing to kill it...
as sad and disturbing as this is, pro-life people must understand that if abortion became illegal, it would go underground as it was before Roe vs. Wade. There would be street abortions, more babies in dumpsters, more controversy- it just wouldn't be good. We live in a modern world now, and not to sound cold, but our world is becoming vastly overpopulated. in 50 years we went from 2 bil to 6 billion ppl. We are already running low on resources. I agree this is sick, but its part of our world now
Oh my god. I never knew it was like this. I thought it was horrid and evil before - but this is so inhuman. They suck them out? Oh my god. What are they thinking?
There is no reason for abortion besides the fact that the mother wants the child dead. I understand rape babies but why not truck it around for 9months then put it up for adoption, you will benifit (morally and finantially) and so will that child. Adoption was created for a reason people!
I'm not saying i'm pro-choice, however abortion may appear ungodly, but isnt poverty? This may be tough to understand but what i'm saying is that often couples of low income who dont have an abortion there child lives the same life of poverty, which obviously leads to gang lifestyles and other forms of crime and murder. I'm not trying to argue i'm just hoping those who are against it can see it from both point of views...
According to some Buddhist text, the soul or the sprit enters in to the fetus by the 12th week, so it could be pronounced as a human being with a soul or a sprit in him. After then, an abortion is absolutely a murder.
***If you have ever personally known a woman who has had an abortion, you would understand their high degree of depression. More and more black leaders are standing up to the 83% of clinics located in minority neighborhoods.
edinburg:More and more black leaders are standing up to the 83% of clinics located in minority neighborhoods. I LOVE that one. Now, prove it please. I have asked for proof of that comment, a good 20 times, and not one pro-lifer has answer it, they have simply run away with their tale between their legs. I'll be waiting for your proof edin!
what about the high instance of depression in women who get stuck spending 20 years raising a kind they resent b/c they've basically given up all of their dreams over one bad decision?
its funny ive noticed a pattern with this video.. the pro lifers dish out their embarrising unknowledgable opinions then whenever those opinions are challanged or questioned..SILENCE happens! pro life runs under cover again. ive heard a lot of you pro life saying you have a voice etc but youre not doing a very good job of using it are you? why dont you answer any questions that pro choice pose to you? you are just as bad as brainwashed christians!
ARose:Abortion is murder NO, it is NOT murder. What is wrong with you people. Do any of you own a dictionary...or better yet.. USE it? Murder is ONLY a legal term for an illegal killing! Abortion is legal so it isn't murder. Good god!
ARose: "fetus" is a human being No, it isn't! Its of human origin but isn't a human of "being" until birth. Do you reasearch ANYTHING before you say it, or do you just say whatever you choose to say and the hell w/ the truth...like fairy tales?
Depends on who you ask. Psychology 101 states that a human being begins at day one when the cell divdes into two, but then again any person should know this. It is a living organisim. I am not debating if it is right or wrong. Everyone has different morals and ethics that help them mold their opinions. So to say one person is right verses another is totally wrong. It's called opinions. iex, there like Ass*holes. Everyone has one.
spazzme:Depends on who you ask. Psychology 101 states that a human being begins at day one "Phsychology 101"?...now, THAT is a definate reference!A human of being is based on the history of the statutory interpretation of the word "person" & fetuses are not that.
spazz: It's called opinions. iex, there like Ass*holes. Everyone has one I agree, but in the legalities of abortion, the facts have already been determined. None of that is up for question.
ARose:Keep your damn legs shut LOL, with talk like that, you're just too classy for me! And, You don't even know you can get pregnant with your legs closed. is no one embarrassed by their stupidity?
That seems painful, but I still think abortion is fine to do. Course it would be wonderful if people that don't want kids would tuck in their pants and close their legs beforehand.
sorry suezee! I accidentally marked your comment as spam. I was trying to reply. ;_; I'm so sorry.
To answer your question: That really isn't the point. The point is that abortion is wrong. What will you get out of a murder (not involving you) Nothing, but it's still wrong. It's a matter of what's right and what's wrong. Murder is wrong.
btw, can we start wrapping things up here? I kinda don't want to continue arguing because I kinda realize that the abortion debate thing was a matter of beliefs, morals and opinions. Someone just told me it's a good question with no answer, so maybe we should just drop it and keep peace.
purty:btw, can we start wrapping things up here As soon as you answer the qustion: What will you get out of me having 10, or even 5 kids I don't want.
(look up 'what is murder' on google and click the first link) That's my definition
there are supplements to this, but they don't justify for abortions, and their term for victim is strangely contradictory.
a baby is innocent, whereas a guilty man is not, so your example is not good.
I am very tolerant of your opinion. I can see why you view it that way and respect that. You obviously are not respecting me by the way you are speaking.I can easily say the same thing about your ideas.
purty:look up 'what is murder' on google and click the first link) That's my definition
LOl, Thats YOUR definition? The title of that article is "Criminal law". Those defintions are of a criminal nature. Anyone with any brain that is reading them knows thats why abortion is NOT listed..because it isn't murder. Another thing, if it's murder , a criminal offense punishable by imprisonmnet or death, why are women not charged for aborting? Because it's not murder.
That's why it SHOULD be murder. That's because people MADE it legal even though it shouldn't. Because abortion actually matches that term for murder. I'm talking about what's morally right.
Don't you find it strange how killing a pregnant woman is TWO murders? Seriously, is a baby (or human fetus) a human or NOT? So it's NOT a human if the mother says it's okay to kill it?
... well thanks for being more polite in this comment.
purty:Don't you find it strange how killing a pregnant woman is TWO murders? No, not at all. ONLY the women can decide if her fetus lives or not. If anyone else makes that decision for her, it's criminal.
It sad how people cant live with their own actions, they would rather get rid of the baby. They had unprotected sex, or whatever so they need to deal with their own consquences. I would never allow myself to get pregnant.
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And stop correcting my grammar. Unless I am writing an essay, or it's to the point you cannot understand it, then don't do it. Correcting someone's grammar is very impolite.
btw, you should be nicer to people. In order to sound mature, you have to be decent.
purtymusic:To end someone's life before it even had a chance... Definition of chance is "risk"! You want to take risks, go to Vegas and shoot craps. Don't do it with a childs life! purty:it has no voice in this. It dosen't want one! YOU think it wants one. Utter nonsense!
Let's say you hit someone in the head really hard so they die immediately. It didn't have a voice because it didn't know. Who knows? Maybe the person you killed didn't want a voice. It's not really about voices and being heard, it's about what's morally right.
purty:But the purpose behind abortion is bad When did you become the judge of whats immoral(previous comment) and whats bad? Do you actually think YOUR ideas of right and wrong & moral and immoral should be held by everyone? What will you get out of me having 10 babies that I do NOT want?
So people actually call their wanted baby's "fetuses"?
So you're agreeing that murder is good? "Gee, maybe we shouldn't have those laws on murder, stealing, etc. I mean, it's ruining someone's rights! Everyone has different morals!" <-- that's not right.
This is my opinion.
btw, you are far too sensitive and intolerant of other people's opinion. Reread your posts and notice how rude you are. (Emphasis on 'opinion'. You are free to believe whatever.) Being impolite won't convince me better =)
I'm sure pro-life people think your opinion is ridiculous too. Like when people call fetus's 'parasites'? At least I respect your opinion. Both sides to abortion have HOLES in them. That means they BOTH had flaws. To be open-minded, you need to be tolerant. =)
Murder is the act of killing another (living) human. Now, a fetus MAY NOT be a person, but it IS human.
Why do you NOT see as abortion as murder? a HUMAN fetus becomes a human, not some wild animal.
purty:Murder is the act of killing another (living) human. Oh my god. And, were you just telling me to be tolerant and open minded?If you want that..stop lying! Murder is NOT
the act of killing another person"!! If a man breaks in my house to rape me and I kill him, thats NOT murder. How ignorant of you to keep insisting that abortion is murder when it isn't. You have no credibility when you lie.
Abortion is murder of a human being. Do you notice that a happy couple that is pregnant calls their child a 'baby', while an unwanted baby (perhaps older than a wanted one) is called a 'fetus'?
So a life is called what one person deems it to be?
sueezee: calm down 0_o everyone is entitled to their opinion. Including you.
purty:Do you notice that a happy couple that is pregnant calls their child a 'baby' They also say, I have 2 children and "one" on the way. Stop the immature semantics!
People "chose" abortion because of prejudice in the world, work place, family, & some religions, against unwed moms or prejudice against having a child & giving it up for adoption. These people haven't exercised free choice. They felt THEY HAD TO ABORT because they are too weak to stand up to a world that treats pregnant woman like dirt. Most who practice "pro-choice" are practicing "pro-fear"
& on the issue of fear, intersting that por-choice people are afraid of posters of aborted babies.
well im not really a dumb ass come on lets not get too carried away i mean you dont know me..which yer probably makes it easier to put out words you dont understand. i just hope you dont talk to your kids/future kids like that. low esteem for a child isnt cool.
but you must understand that this video is american. its sensationalised to make you think just what you think!!! its not true!!! abortions are carried out in the most humain way possible... well they are in england anyway, i know that for sure! these are pro life videos dont forget! they are there to make you think abortion is horrible.. when actually it isnt anything like this!
changed my views on abortion........wow i didnt know it happen this this...in such a vile and cruel way...ugh
makes mt sick
almost made me cry..i LOVE children and crushing and bashing a unborn child this way is HORRIBLE there must be another way to do it....not like this thats...just meAN AND SICK
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standingontruth1 2 months ago in playlist Abortions and Babies
Fetus is one of the stadiums of human life like infant, child, adult and greybeard.
kz888888 5 months ago in playlist Bernard Nathanson
There is a reason that people call a fetus a fetus and not a baby or a person. In my opinion a fetus only becomes a human once it is delivered by its mother and has its first breath.
Pellicius 8 months ago
Dr. Nathanson was born JEWISH, became and OB/GYN and later converted to Catholicism. That means he could not prescribe or endorse artificial contraceptives. What did he do after that? Would you let this guy deliver YOUR baby?
myIittlekittens 10 months ago
nickelly7440 your a fucking idiot....do me favor and look up partial birth abortion and then tell me its not murder....then actually research when a baby moves on its own in the womb and has a heart beat...then tell me its not murder...dont worry ill wait cause it will never happen. People who are uneducated agree with abortion.if you actually knew what it was you wouldnt say that and if u knew and still thought that your a sick fuck and God will take care of you and other sick people out there
LiVeInMuSiC09 1 year ago
nickelly7440 your a fucking idiot....do me favor and look up partial birth abortion and then tell me its not murder....then actually research when a baby moves on its own in the womb and has a heart beat...then tell me its not murder...dont worry ill wait cause it will never happen. People who are uneducated agree with abortion..if you actually knew what it was you wouldnt say that and if u knew and still thought that your a sick fuck and God will take care of you and other sick people out there
LiVeInMuSiC09 1 year ago
Bogus Criticism of "Silent Scream" #2 (of 2). "Fetal head at 12 wks gestation doesn't require the use of 'crushing instrument' for extraction during abortion procedure (@ 5:19)". At the time this film was made (1984), a leading abortionist (Warren Hern) had pointed out that the average diameter for the baby's head at this point was 18 mm. Due to maternal health risks, the cervix wasn't dilated more than 10 mm for a 12 wk abortion. Thus, the baby's skull was crushed up for removal.
kweer58 1 year ago
Bogus Criticism of "Silent Scream" #1 (of 2). "Contrary to what the film says (@ 1:00), genuine brain waves do not occur in the fetus until the third trimester." Brain waves of unborn babies have been noted as early as 6 weeks after fertilization. The use of the word "genuine" is a smokescreen. Brain waves either exist or they don't exist. The brain functioning is detectable at this early age. It becomes more mature as the pregnancy progresses.
kweer58 1 year ago
@nickelly7440
Girls in 1800 died at child birth....moron.
Abortion isnt murder...its a mindless moving vegetable....having brainwaves means shit....plants have waves.....there sint really much difference at that stage......fucking christians
Chaosbloodify 1 year ago
@nickelly7440
Girls that were pregnant in 1800 normally died during child birth....moron
And please do remove my comment or whatever you want...i dont really care ..abortion is NOT murder .
Chaosbloodify 1 year ago
That clinic footage is actually from a related film called A Matter of Choice.
millsix 2 years ago
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I believe in abortion. The cause of all human suffering is the overpopulation of the world and the lack of reasorces available. With too many people already it is an act of mercy to pick off another eater. The real question here is not if abortion is good but in what way can it be used to better human life?
HappySad0009 2 years ago
if you really think that murdering others is okay in order to keep the world less populated than you should go die as well. After all the world's better off that way, isn't it?
cottoncandy113 2 years ago 2
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I have had three late term abortions and I don't regret it...Nobody can stop me from having my abortions...I do the old hook style if need be
citizenlizard 2 years ago
ur a bitch burn in hell and watch as ur babies live a life in heaven bastard u deserve to be infertile
IMJOHNCONNOR 2 years ago 2
how can someone sit there and know whats going to happen to the baby yet follow through with getting an abortion? wow u can give the baby up for adoption not fucking kill it ! everyone deserves a chance at life , thats fucked up.
pietro0343 2 years ago 5
fuck abortion....
themindvandal 2 years ago
no one can say what should or shouldnt be just offer opinion,my opinion is abortion should be illegal if you dont want the little bastard just adopt it out,but dont kill it,thats murder!
maoriastheycome 2 years ago 3
abortion = anti-woman
abortion = baby killing
beabekham 3 years ago 3
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Assassination
Baby killing
Obscenity
Rabbles shame
Terrorism
Infanticide
Obstetrics
Nasty genocide
maryshybossy 3 years ago
what happens if a 14 year old gets raped by mentally handicapped man and ends up pregnant. not only can she not afford it but the chances of her surviving the pregnancy are slim...
marlattmiece4 3 years ago
A 14 year old girl's body should be very much able to survive a pregnancy. But, she can always have a C-section if she does have complications.
She could then very easily adopt it. According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, there are about 600,000 couples in search of adopting a child every year, but the number of adoptions occurring every year is about 1/3 that number. It's sad that a lot of the babies being aborted could of made one of these couples very happy.
falkenlaser 2 years ago 3
then you kill the rapist not the poor baby. and the fact of the matter is over 95% of abortions are not from any kind of rape or incest, just plain murder.
twnky1 2 years ago 3
really? well, what do you suppose they did in the late 1800's, when it was common for girls to be married by 14, or even earlier. when they got pregnant, did they just have abortions? no!- as long as a girl has had a menstrual period, she is fully capable of physically delivering a child. its mother nature.
nickelly7440 2 years ago
This guy should burn in hell
ticklemeelm038 3 years ago
wait wait hold up- lets put this straight out there- abortion is a persons right- and sometimes its not only cuz they dont want the baby- but because its can affect their job, health or the person knows they dont have responsiblity and cant take care of the baby. NUMBER 2- its not like people have sex and boom expect a baby, thhings just happen and sumtimes the condom breaks or the birth control pillz fails-and this is coming from a freakin 14 year old
crazyDrzgurl 3 years ago
you say that has it is so easy, u say its pplz right yes in special circumstances eg fro health if ur condom slit or pills fail u accidently fall pregnant then who gives you the right to go and kill a human being just because u got a job or ur not financially stable wat a excuse cum on u cud always give the baby up for adoption ders plently of women out der who are dieing for a baby.....
uniqueme2 3 years ago
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Yummy, yummy, yummy, I've got abortions in my tummy! LOL! Deep fried to a crisp golden brown and covered with hot sauce (with "Sweet Home Alabama" playing in the background), the dead embryos hit the spot! Also, take home our roasted fetus meal, so tender and juicy you've gotta taste what's cooking at KFE (Kentucky Fried Embryos) LOL!
musicphan1 3 years ago
Sueezee,, will always resort to bashing your use of words, grammar and puncuation, when she has been cornered by logic and can't properly dispute. That's her maturity level.
cathi765 3 years ago
well thats kinda gross, not too happy i watched that one, its a tough argument and i guess people just have to be aware there are two sides to everything, at no time i have ever seen a girl happy to go get an abortion, so people try to be somewhat sensitive, i know that asking alot
pats4life2 3 years ago
Abortion is disgusting. My daughter was born prem - she got have been an abortion 10 years ago. Abortion is murder and it affects the woman who aborts. so its bad for the mum too.
JMMCL16 3 years ago
I'm crying right now
chybunny 3 years ago
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i dont see the big deal. That thing is not even fully developed. keep your rosary of my ovaries!
Adri8n8 3 years ago
I was once a fetus, naturally I am pro-life.
braygrundy 3 years ago 6
ESTUPIDA ADRI8N8
LUPISTRUFIS69 3 years ago
omg what the fuck is that how can any one stand to murder someone i dont give a fuck if its unborn or not that has to stop yes i know over population well dont be irresponcible and maybe this shitt wouldnt happen its not the kids fault dont blame them
elonicaXoXo 3 years ago 4
sick mother fuckers
anyone who is for abortion may you burn in hell
and wny whore that is to stupid to keep her legs closed your a murderer
KFDEx 3 years ago 3
how old are you
TheMcDeal 3 years ago
EXTREMELY valid point.. canubelieve!! Bravo. Sadly, the ones on here like Sueezee are fighting with extreme denial and aren't rational thinkers. They can't even debate properly without controlling their angry, general hatred, insults and name calling. Very juevy.
cathi765 3 years ago
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Those who support partial birth (or any abortion) abortions are survivors of the procedure.
beloitrose 3 years ago
this guy is a former abortionist. he performed thousands of abortions before he realized what he was doing was incredibly immoral and sick. now he's pro-life and makes educational videos about abortion like this one.
jennie31200 3 years ago 2
I don't know why homophobia came up here. Although I am not against gay's or lesbian's in the least. Although I am against abortion unless there are complications with the child or mother.
KaOniShojo 3 years ago
Everyone who is anti abortion should be adopting kids, and funding our jail systems, since thats where all unwanted babies end up. Nice, they want to bring unwanted children into the world, but don't do a damn for them once they are here.
melina635 3 years ago
NO, people who dont want children should keep their pants on! if you decide to take them off, be prepared to take responsibilty. abortion is just evil and it blows my mind how people try to rationalize it.
sjd198302 3 years ago
FYI...Go to bjwinslow dot/com (thats just ONE) click on "fetuses" on top to see all the rubber fetuses available, that are used on YT prolife videos & different websites. They can be dressed up in blood, black coloring to represent "burning", and all sorts of wonderful little visual "tricks". People, please think before believing ANY picture you see. You owe it to yourself to be educated.
sueezee 3 years ago
My neice miscarried at home and the little body was perfectly formed and fit in her hand. She saw the heartbeat on ultrasound weeks before. Abortion kills babies and it hurts them. Women should give 9 months of their life for another and give it to someone who cant have any)like my 16 yr old mom did) instaed of kill it selfishly.....9 little months
RonPaulforPresi 3 years ago
ronpaul:My neice miscarried at home and the little body was perfectly formed and fit in her hand So what?
ron:Abortion kills babies Thats been the idea all along!
ron: and give it to someone who cant have any Of course, put that child with the 240,000 other kids up for adoption today! lets just keep throwing kids into dog pound like invironments, waiting for someone to pick them to love, as they are feed by government employees! LOve the kids more than you hate abortion!!!!
sueezee 3 years ago
Nice, you have come up with every argument for, and justification for killing unborn babies. Consider this: the men feeding the gas chambers with Jews a while back did not see their victims as human. They were for the most part, not psychotic individuals. They were systematically desensitized to the point where killing them seemed natural and normal. They could probably come up with dozens of arguments, much like you, to 'prove' that what they were doing was right.
canubelieve 3 years ago
can:you have come up with every argument for, and justification for killing unborn babies.
OH NO!! You mean like YOU coming up with justification as to why it SHOULDN'T be done? Shall we just shoot each other???
can: the men feeding the gas chambers with Jews a while back did NOPE, don't "consider" irrelevant material. They were persons not embryos/fetuses.
sueezee 3 years ago
Perhaps before you attempt a refutement you should learn to construct a proper sentence in English, I really have no idea what you were trying to say. Nor do I care, you are obviously a spokesperson for an obscene and wicked practice. My point, which you labored to ignore, was that otherwise sane people can be desensitized to the point where killing does not affect them. Whatever. This is my last comment on this.
canubelieve 3 years ago 2
can:Perhaps before you attempt a refutement you should learn to construct a proper sentence in English,
LOL, I love ad hominems!!
can: My point was that otherwise sane people can be desensitized to the point where killing does not affect them
A rediculous comment! ALL women abort for the first time, with only weeks to make a decision. To believe the even 25 million of the 50 million legal abortion were done because women were desensitized, is absurd.
sueezee 3 years ago
squeeze, what does good english have to do with proper arguments. So everyone else in the world cannot express an opinion unless they speak and write good english?
Fascism really is your default mode is it not. No wonder you are so arrogant; you think it is OK to destroy a human life without the slightest emotion or regard. Hitler and his cohort, MARGARET SANGER would be proud. Do you favor killing off all the Jews or all the blacks first?
loggerbuck 3 years ago
can:They were for the most part, not psychotic individuals. They were systematically desensitized to the point where killing them seemed natural and normal. They could probably come up with dozens of arguments, much like you, to 'prove' that what they were doing Are you saying abortion docs are desensitized?
sueezee 3 years ago
Hah! I'm so glad I'm a lesbian & I don't have to get an abortion.Those instruments looked scary..If prolifers really want to stop abortions, they should encourage homosexuality.^.^You can't make a baby without the sperm or egg...Mwuahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha
RyaDarkAngel 3 years ago
lol thats hilarious unfortunatly im only bisexual so i have a chance ihope they knock you out before it looks like it hurts ow
calib345 3 years ago
you think god made people to be gay? You don't see any gay animals....adam and eve were not gay.... you are a walking abomination
inkatha2000 3 years ago
inkaca, sorry but some animals are gay, and if there are gays and if you truly understand the bible you would know god created EVERYBODY in his image...right?!most gays dont murder,steal,rape, or touch lil boys. all of which "straight" preists do, anyways i dont want to get into it w/ u about "god" but abortion is more normal than you think, "god" did give us the ability and knowledge to perform such a procedure, why not take advantage of it?
HehrTrigur 3 years ago 2
Name an animal thats gay? and of course more straight people do because theres more straight people on the planet right? and gays don't murder? jeffery domer? the man who raped then murdered other males then ate them...lol yea but gays don't do that.
inkatha2000 3 years ago
youre saying you never heard of a dog fucking another dog? both of which being male? that would be gay right? jeffrey dahmer...ONE gay serial killer and he made it big. as far as im concerned he was just regulating a little bit of the population.
HehrTrigur 3 years ago
The other male dog isn't going to be Willingly fucked by the other dog is he? The other dog probably wont get his penis close to the other male dog before that other dog turns around and bites him in the face. And gay Male Priests are a small part of the population also correct?
inkatha2000 3 years ago
uh actually animals can be gay. they do mate with the same gender now and then. o_O
xxuselessbulletsxx 3 years ago
show me some proof....
inkatha2000 3 years ago
Don't waste your time with this guy.Hes just another homophobe using god to forward his own agenda.And yes there are gay animals, I googled it, and technically humans are animals. ^.^
RyaDarkAngel 3 years ago
lol innit though. and anyway Jesus wasn't homophobe. >.> He might have been a tad gay Himself. :P
xxuselessbulletsxx 3 years ago
lol, I didn't say Jesus was a homophobe.
RyaDarkAngel 3 years ago
The first doctor (doesn't even deserve a capitol in his position) refers to the fetis as a "child" They guy doing the abortion referst to this poor baby as a child yet he still kills it. Wow. You so called doctors should be in jail.
christinew9 3 years ago 2
This is first time i agree with Sueezee, and that is the comment to Ashley. However,, not ALL prolifers are so vile. I can not, and will NEVER claim to know who goes to hell. Though abortion is murder, in God's eyes,, and HE will be the judge of our fate,, only HE knows the entire situation and how much the mother REALLY understood,,, most really don't know all the facts,,biologically or spiritually.
cathi765 3 years ago
Sick feckers.!!!! Am sorry but its just not right.!!!!!!
mavrick0481 3 years ago
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Just so you know, these dead embryos don't feel anything. I don't mean to generalize, but most of you pro-life people value the unborn more than the grown. You have no problem with the death of real human beings, who actually have feelings, self-awareness, brains. Please hear me out. Is it worse to kill an unborn person, who doesn't breathe, doesn't feel, isn't aware of it's own existence, or to have that same embryo grown into a child, and live with a struggling parent?
Jakomancer 3 years ago 3
amen dude amen
ItachiIsGod 3 years ago
omg that is so sad!
dorsavoroojak 3 years ago
i hope that bitches insides rot out and she dies a horrid death then burns in hell for the rest of her days...but even that would be to good for her. they should do it with out anestesia...
ashleyh8522 3 years ago
ashely:i hope that bitches insides rot out and she dies a horrid death then burns in hell for the rest of her days...but even that would be to good for her. they should do it with out anestesia... Oh, I just love reading all the intelligent comments by pro-lifers.lol
sueezee 3 years ago
i know! So loving and Christian aren't they!
gav152 3 years ago
sueezee, although I understand the emotional content of such an issue, your hateful speech shows just how human we all are and that to bring god down to your level is horrible. cant you imagine a god greater than yourself?
anyhow when it comes to death for anothers pleasure or ends of a means, by your reteoric you should rot in hell for all the animals you eat, the insects you have killed and the ongoing human population explosion thats killing many species. humans are not above all life.
erfreaka25 3 years ago
I don't believe in a "god". I believe in gods and goddesses, 'cause I'm Wiccan, and no, we don't worship the devil, there is no devil in the craft.Satanists worship the devil.I'm a vegan, but am pro-choice, not pro-abortion.I believe in a woman's right to choose her own decisions, but not chosen for her.I don't beleive you should get an abortion everytime you get preggers.If people used birth control properly, there would be less abortions.
RyaDarkAngel 3 years ago
I used to be wiccan so theres no need to educate me about the religion, however I see its more aimed for everyone to know. anyhow my reply was to sueezee on what I thought was hateful banter.However I realize looking at it again, she was stealing an identity to make a point.
erfreaka25 3 years ago
I wasn't trying to be offensive;I just didn't want people to backlash me for it later, so I told 'em in advance.
RyaDarkAngel 3 years ago
erfreaka: bring god down to your level is horrible. cant you imagine a god greater than yourself?
anyhow when it comes to death for anothers pleasure or ends of a means, by your..... etc,etc,etc!
Stop the ad hominem arguments & debate abortion.
sueezee 3 years ago
its like your dening your human nature, people kill, we destory and we have done so since the beginning we can be cruel yet while some take pleasure in it others dont. "humans are not above all life" we outsmart all other animal life we are complex in heart but an animal when we destroy
calib345 3 years ago
If people didnt want a fukkin child den y tha fukk u have sex unprotected... n den u kill the baby!! just a murderer i dnt c how this shit can be legal! who ever has had a abortion i want yu 2 fink what wud happen if yur mum aborted yu. selfish bitch!!
gvmm1 3 years ago
First, what on earth did you just say?
Second, you're proof that abortion should be legal.
jfmcc69sofine 3 years ago
uhh, sometimes birth control fails, it's not ALWAYS irresponsible people
prettylittlelark 3 years ago
and sometimes, people are raped. but oh well who cares about a women's choice. its not like its her body anyways....right?
pdhbgmsduckfbgobdkfw 3 years ago
If you Can't trust me with a choice how can you trust me with a child?
Wouldn't it be better if EVERY child born was a wanted child???
XTabithaJamesX 3 years ago
Sacramento, Aug 11, 2008 (CNA).- A California judge has ruled against Planned Parenthood and its allies who challenged the content of a voter information pamphlet's arguments in support of Proposition 4, a ballot measure requiring abortionists to notify at least one adult relative before performing an abortion on a minor.The arguments reference the story of "Sarah," a 15-year-old who died in 1994 after suffering complications from a secretly obtained legal abortion.
SFsolano 3 years ago
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The truth is very simple. Would it be murder to kill a baby five minutes after it's born? Then why isn't it murder to kill it ten minutes or months earlier? IT IS MURDER Pure and simple. I know a lot of you have done it, and believe it or not, that's OK! Just ask God to forgive you (he will), and ask him into your heart. Help us stop all of this murdering. Currently 1.3 million abortions are performed each year in the United States. There have been over 46 million since 1973. THIS MUST STOP!!!!!
Rekcin 3 years ago 3
you hear they are now trying to compare birth control pills with abortions??
Foreverdance567 3 years ago
Yes! and that is discusting!
Christy17pink 3 years ago
thats seriously a stretch if anyone says something about that, that literally prevents fertilization from even happening, thus preventing a baby, embryo, fetus, life, or however u define it, from even occuring, if thats not responsible, i dont kno what is.
prettylittlelark 3 years ago
how come people can do such thing? the life is the most precious gift that God gave us. the poor baby is the flesh of your flesh and blood of your blood, then your killing yourself too :( have mercy , if you dont want a baby makes some abstinence for yourself :(
yiyori 3 years ago 5
i dont care what anyone says to me that is just pure evil that poor baby
azesk11 3 years ago 6
"Mommy, Mommy, Don't kill me, I will be a good kid when I grow up."
SFsolano 3 years ago 2
another thing about pro abortion
what if your child has some horrific genetic deffect. Are you a better person for making them live a life in a broken body? Or mind? I think not.If you wouldnt want your worst enemy living that life, why would you want your child to suffer through it if you had a choice. like i said before abortion is a personal choice. people who are against it shouldn't do it. and people who have reason to do so should, if they require it. period end of storey.
smount87 3 years ago
are u fuckign serious.. a defect? what do we have today that technology cant cure.. my brother has marfons , heart defect and someother problems.. my mother never thought to kill him.. that is just fucking sick. why is it that usa first thought is to get rid and kill humanity
hanonah1115 3 years ago 2
who are you to assume we can't cure it? I was born with a genetic defect in which aspartame destroys my nerves. I spent alot of my childhood recovering from just one allergic reaction at 5ish. Most of my childhood was twitches, spasms, the occasional asthma attack, and constantly touching things an even number of times along with repeating things I said.
I suffered alot, but I lived. I wouldn't want to die just because I'm suffering. Who are you to assume for these kids?
Gormanmod 3 years ago 5
sucks to be you
i bet your parents got a good number of laughs out of your failure of a life
ItachiIsGod 3 years ago
well today I'm wealthy and happy. Why does beginning a bad life mean you have to stay that way?
The caste system was abandoned eons ago in the west.
Gormanmod 3 years ago
Gorman:Why does beginning a bad life mean you have to stay that way? Read the psychology of what starting off in an undesirable lifestyle does to people. Look at the childhoods of 95% of the prison population.
sueezee 3 years ago
What? And so why do the 5% have to die for the suffering of the rest?
Must we kill 6 billion humans because 1 billion suffer in Asia?
This statement by you is in all ways just dumb.
Gormanmod 3 years ago
well acctuly they invented the morning after pill so you dnt get pregnent wen the condom breaks so why dont ppl yose that instead of killing children and well if they are going to get depretion for raising a kid for 20 years there is a thing called adoption you dnt have to kill babies its f..... horrible
checkavaililty 3 years ago
Sorry friend,, the morning after pill does NOT prevent pregnancy,, it only prevents the fertilized egg from being able to stay implanted and comes out with the next period. Life is still destroyed with that pill,, sorry to burst your bubble.
cathi765 3 years ago
who gives a shit. at least you dont have to go to the damn clinic.
theonenottaken 3 years ago
YEah but you take it early on when the fertilized egg is at leat a bunch of cells. sorry to burst your bubble, I wouldn't get it, but I think its way f'n better than getting an abortion.
Christy17pink 3 years ago
never mind that is still horrible.
sum289 3 years ago
"thank god i dont bear the shame of being an american"
Your shame is much worse...
GospelPete 3 years ago
HI:) I"m a proud American Pro LIFE advocate. My goal is to continue the fight against this atrocity, so that our government will not shame itself any further on this issue.. Please pray for us!:)
Peace
cathi765 3 years ago 2
"Once again, since when is it morally just for people to abuse the judicial system to impose their personal beliefs on others?"
You mean like Roe vs Wade?
GospelPete 3 years ago
What about the right to life of the child?
Why do you avoid this reality?
Where, in the Constitution, does it give a woman the right to take a life as a means of birth control?
How can any other human being be so blind as to accept this atrocity?
Women who are immoral and selfish getting pregnant by the thousands and simply walking into a clinic & murdering innocent life while liberals, secular humanists and atheists in complete apathy stand by and support it..
What has this society become?
GospelPete 3 years ago 5
I avoid the reality because I DONT HAVE A WOMB its not my perspective to tote.
Once again, since when is it morally just for people to abuse the judicial system to impose their personal beliefs on others?
There should be more separation between so-called moral agendas and the state, you think that its immoral? dont do it. but mind your own business when it comes to other people's choices.
simonfarrington 3 years ago
Speaking of society, murder and morals, where in your constitution does it say that its ok to interfere with foreign democracies and murder people half way around the world to rape thier natural resources (Iraq).
thank god i dont bear the shame of being an american
simonfarrington 3 years ago
"but in the end that's something we can't ban. Somebody somewhere is going to find a way."
We can and should ban anything that represents the kind of hypocrisy that abortion does...
Why do we ban drug use?
Isn't the life of a child more compelling than the use of narcotics?
God will judge this compromising and self-serving Nation....
Of this you can be very sure....
GospelPete 3 years ago
One more thing to point out. We are men. we have no place in this debate because we DONT HAVE WOMBS!
drug use is an interesting diversion from your weak points (apples and oranges, so lets stay on topic here).
We already know that banning abortion creates more bad than good, so thats out. the only thing left to fight here is morally-driven patriarchy, which ironically is a form of ethical hypocrisy.
Youre right, a nation of hypocrites does deserve the wrath of the divine.
simonfarrington 3 years ago
"what about men who have sex irresponsibly? Where does their accountability come in?"
They are forced to pay child support...
What else would you like to see happen?
I prefer creating laws that will make both parties aware that there are serious consequences for their behavior nd actions...
The very least of these should be the right to life of the unborn child...
GospelPete 3 years ago
"I love how people who denounce abortion call themselves pro-life, when what they really are is anti-choice. If they were concerned with life, they would consider quality of life over quantity"
Who are you to say what the quality of life will be for an unborn child?
There are children who overcome every form of abuse and neglect?
There are also children who come from wealthy and seemingly well adjusted families who grow up in complete misery...
Quit stereotyping & quit justifying immorality.
GospelPete 3 years ago
tell me what's NOT immoral about not minding your own business when it comes to a woman's right (yes a right) to not want to have kids (and still be sexual) if she doesnt want to? I suppose condoms (which can fail - but hey, a broken condom is divine intervention, right?) are immoral too?
simonfarrington 3 years ago
I love how people who denounce abortion call themselves pro-life, when what they really are is anti-choice. If they were concerned with life, they would consider quality of life over quantity. Perhaps someone should post video of women who have died either through injury, suicide or poisoning b/c these services were not made accessible to them. Funny how men think that they can make decisions that tell women what they cannot do with their bodies.
simonfarrington 3 years ago
I agree with you. I'm generally "anti-choice" as you say, but in the end that's something we can't ban. Somebody somewhere is going to find a way. I've known a handful of girls die from injuries trying to force miscarriage or suicide, and even more who died from complications because they were denied the choice. It's not a birth control, we can all agree on that, but you're definitely right.
Aristes 3 years ago
"as sad and disturbing as this is, pro-life people must understand that if abortion became illegal, it would go underground as it was before Roe vs. Wade. There would be street abortions, more babies in dumpsters, more controversy- it just wouldn't be good"
At least it would not be done with our approval.
If a woman wants to have sex irresponsibly, then she needs to be accountable for the results.
No doubt, the child is as deserving to live as the mother who is willing to kill it...
GospelPete 3 years ago
what about men who have sex irresponsibly? Where does their accountability come in?
simonfarrington 3 years ago
as sad and disturbing as this is, pro-life people must understand that if abortion became illegal, it would go underground as it was before Roe vs. Wade. There would be street abortions, more babies in dumpsters, more controversy- it just wouldn't be good. We live in a modern world now, and not to sound cold, but our world is becoming vastly overpopulated. in 50 years we went from 2 bil to 6 billion ppl. We are already running low on resources. I agree this is sick, but its part of our world now
JKM12988 3 years ago 3
Oh my god. I never knew it was like this. I thought it was horrid and evil before - but this is so inhuman. They suck them out? Oh my god. What are they thinking?
ryanramsey 3 years ago
There is no reason for abortion besides the fact that the mother wants the child dead. I understand rape babies but why not truck it around for 9months then put it up for adoption, you will benifit (morally and finantially) and so will that child. Adoption was created for a reason people!
fallonscenicbeauty 3 years ago
abortion is not a birth control method, and it is just ungodly wrong.
raysbabygurl2008 3 years ago
I'm not saying i'm pro-choice, however abortion may appear ungodly, but isnt poverty? This may be tough to understand but what i'm saying is that often couples of low income who dont have an abortion there child lives the same life of poverty, which obviously leads to gang lifestyles and other forms of crime and murder. I'm not trying to argue i'm just hoping those who are against it can see it from both point of views...
untitledtrakk 3 years ago
According to some Buddhist text, the soul or the sprit enters in to the fetus by the 12th week, so it could be pronounced as a human being with a soul or a sprit in him. After then, an abortion is absolutely a murder.
vishva8kumara 3 years ago 2
Thank you for your powerful statements.
SFsolano 3 years ago 3
***If you have ever personally known a woman who has had an abortion, you would understand their high degree of depression. More and more black leaders are standing up to the 83% of clinics located in minority neighborhoods.
edinburgwatcher 3 years ago
edinburg:More and more black leaders are standing up to the 83% of clinics located in minority neighborhoods. I LOVE that one. Now, prove it please. I have asked for proof of that comment, a good 20 times, and not one pro-lifer has answer it, they have simply run away with their tale between their legs. I'll be waiting for your proof edin!
sueezee 3 years ago
what about the high instance of depression in women who get stuck spending 20 years raising a kind they resent b/c they've basically given up all of their dreams over one bad decision?
simonfarrington 3 years ago
tough shit!
sjd198302 3 years ago
its funny ive noticed a pattern with this video.. the pro lifers dish out their embarrising unknowledgable opinions then whenever those opinions are challanged or questioned..SILENCE happens! pro life runs under cover again. ive heard a lot of you pro life saying you have a voice etc but youre not doing a very good job of using it are you? why dont you answer any questions that pro choice pose to you? you are just as bad as brainwashed christians!
wehaveableeder 3 years ago
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Christians suck.
razorflown 3 years ago
sueezee (or whatever your name is)... The way to prevent having kids you dont want is simple. Keep your damn legs shut. Duh.
Abortion is murder. A "fetus" is a human being. A LIVING being with a heartbeat. End of argument.
ARose4Me7305 3 years ago
ARose:Abortion is murder NO, it is NOT murder. What is wrong with you people. Do any of you own a dictionary...or better yet.. USE it? Murder is ONLY a legal term for an illegal killing! Abortion is legal so it isn't murder. Good god!
ARose: "fetus" is a human being No, it isn't! Its of human origin but isn't a human of "being" until birth. Do you reasearch ANYTHING before you say it, or do you just say whatever you choose to say and the hell w/ the truth...like fairy tales?
sueezee 3 years ago
Depends on who you ask. Psychology 101 states that a human being begins at day one when the cell divdes into two, but then again any person should know this. It is a living organisim. I am not debating if it is right or wrong. Everyone has different morals and ethics that help them mold their opinions. So to say one person is right verses another is totally wrong. It's called opinions. iex, there like Ass*holes. Everyone has one.
spazzme21 3 years ago
spazzme:Depends on who you ask. Psychology 101 states that a human being begins at day one "Phsychology 101"?...now, THAT is a definate reference!A human of being is based on the history of the statutory interpretation of the word "person" & fetuses are not that.
spazz: It's called opinions. iex, there like Ass*holes. Everyone has one I agree, but in the legalities of abortion, the facts have already been determined. None of that is up for question.
sueezee 3 years ago
ARose:Keep your damn legs shut LOL, with talk like that, you're just too classy for me! And, You don't even know you can get pregnant with your legs closed. is no one embarrassed by their stupidity?
sueezee 3 years ago
this is sick
Saintlouisdeak 3 years ago
That seems painful, but I still think abortion is fine to do. Course it would be wonderful if people that don't want kids would tuck in their pants and close their legs beforehand.
arenaskies 3 years ago
sorry suezee! I accidentally marked your comment as spam. I was trying to reply. ;_; I'm so sorry.
To answer your question: That really isn't the point. The point is that abortion is wrong. What will you get out of a murder (not involving you) Nothing, but it's still wrong. It's a matter of what's right and what's wrong. Murder is wrong.
(Last comment. I'm outta here.)
purtymusic 3 years ago
opinions should be respected, but what about the baby? use condemns, but if a baby is concieved, let it be born I believe!
Evaushke 3 years ago
btw, can we start wrapping things up here? I kinda don't want to continue arguing because I kinda realize that the abortion debate thing was a matter of beliefs, morals and opinions. Someone just told me it's a good question with no answer, so maybe we should just drop it and keep peace.
purtymusic 3 years ago
You have your opinion and I have mine. And yours should be respected just like mine.
have a nice day.
purtymusic 3 years ago
purty:btw, can we start wrapping things up here As soon as you answer the qustion: What will you get out of me having 10, or even 5 kids I don't want.
sueezee 3 years ago
(look up 'what is murder' on google and click the first link) That's my definition
there are supplements to this, but they don't justify for abortions, and their term for victim is strangely contradictory.
a baby is innocent, whereas a guilty man is not, so your example is not good.
I am very tolerant of your opinion. I can see why you view it that way and respect that. You obviously are not respecting me by the way you are speaking.I can easily say the same thing about your ideas.
purtymusic 3 years ago 2
purty:look up 'what is murder' on google and click the first link) That's my definition
LOl, Thats YOUR definition? The title of that article is "Criminal law". Those defintions are of a criminal nature. Anyone with any brain that is reading them knows thats why abortion is NOT listed..because it isn't murder. Another thing, if it's murder , a criminal offense punishable by imprisonmnet or death, why are women not charged for aborting? Because it's not murder.
sueezee 3 years ago
That's why it SHOULD be murder. That's because people MADE it legal even though it shouldn't. Because abortion actually matches that term for murder. I'm talking about what's morally right.
Don't you find it strange how killing a pregnant woman is TWO murders? Seriously, is a baby (or human fetus) a human or NOT? So it's NOT a human if the mother says it's okay to kill it?
... well thanks for being more polite in this comment.
purtymusic 3 years ago
purty:That's why it SHOULD be murder SHOULD be?
purty:Don't you find it strange how killing a pregnant woman is TWO murders? No, not at all. ONLY the women can decide if her fetus lives or not. If anyone else makes that decision for her, it's criminal.
sueezee 3 years ago
they are not charged cause its legal
jsgoodfella 3 years ago
It sad how people cant live with their own actions, they would rather get rid of the baby. They had unprotected sex, or whatever so they need to deal with their own consquences. I would never allow myself to get pregnant.
chocolat80 3 years ago
chocolat:They had unprotected sex, or whatever so they need to deal with their own consquences
"Deal" with it...like a punishment? It seems you're more angry with the woman who got pregnant, than having any concern for a child.
sueezee 3 years ago
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huckpuppie84 3 years ago
this is so sad...=0(
KARMA562 3 years ago
btw, I used to be more on the pro-choice side until I done some research (on NEUTRAL websites)
purtymusic 3 years ago
purty:I used to be more on the pro-choice side until I done some research "DONE" some research?
sueezee 3 years ago
And stop correcting my grammar. Unless I am writing an essay, or it's to the point you cannot understand it, then don't do it. Correcting someone's grammar is very impolite.
btw, you should be nicer to people. In order to sound mature, you have to be decent.
purtymusic 3 years ago
Of course abortion is not going to be pretty. Surgery also isn't very pretty.
But the purpose behind abortion is bad. To end someone's life before it even had a chance... it has no voice in this.
fetus = baby = human.
purtymusic 3 years ago
purtymusic:To end someone's life before it even had a chance... Definition of chance is "risk"! You want to take risks, go to Vegas and shoot craps. Don't do it with a childs life! purty:it has no voice in this. It dosen't want one! YOU think it wants one. Utter nonsense!
sueezee 3 years ago
Let's say you hit someone in the head really hard so they die immediately. It didn't have a voice because it didn't know. Who knows? Maybe the person you killed didn't want a voice. It's not really about voices and being heard, it's about what's morally right.
It is murder? Yes.
btw, Is a fetus a human being in your opinion?
purtymusic 3 years ago
purty:But the purpose behind abortion is bad When did you become the judge of whats immoral(previous comment) and whats bad? Do you actually think YOUR ideas of right and wrong & moral and immoral should be held by everyone? What will you get out of me having 10 babies that I do NOT want?
sueezee 3 years ago
So people actually call their wanted baby's "fetuses"?
So you're agreeing that murder is good? "Gee, maybe we shouldn't have those laws on murder, stealing, etc. I mean, it's ruining someone's rights! Everyone has different morals!" <-- that's not right.
This is my opinion.
btw, you are far too sensitive and intolerant of other people's opinion. Reread your posts and notice how rude you are. (Emphasis on 'opinion'. You are free to believe whatever.) Being impolite won't convince me better =)
purtymusic 3 years ago
purty:So people actually call their wanted baby's "fetuses"? Irrelevant! I don't care if they call it a television.
purty:So you're agreeing that murder is good? Abortion is good & isn't murder. You'd have more credibility if you used the correct terms.
purty:it's ruining someone's rights Fetuses/embryos have no rights.
purty: you are far too sensitive and intolerant of other people's opinion. I am intolerant of stupidity! Like people who call abortion, murder.
sueezee 3 years ago
I'm sure pro-life people think your opinion is ridiculous too. Like when people call fetus's 'parasites'? At least I respect your opinion. Both sides to abortion have HOLES in them. That means they BOTH had flaws. To be open-minded, you need to be tolerant. =)
Murder is the act of killing another (living) human. Now, a fetus MAY NOT be a person, but it IS human.
Why do you NOT see as abortion as murder? a HUMAN fetus becomes a human, not some wild animal.
purtymusic 3 years ago
purty:Murder is the act of killing another (living) human. Oh my god. And, were you just telling me to be tolerant and open minded?If you want that..stop lying! Murder is NOT
the act of killing another person"!! If a man breaks in my house to rape me and I kill him, thats NOT murder. How ignorant of you to keep insisting that abortion is murder when it isn't. You have no credibility when you lie.
sueezee 3 years ago
My opinion:
Abortion is murder of a human being. Do you notice that a happy couple that is pregnant calls their child a 'baby', while an unwanted baby (perhaps older than a wanted one) is called a 'fetus'?
So a life is called what one person deems it to be?
sueezee: calm down 0_o everyone is entitled to their opinion. Including you.
purtymusic 3 years ago
purty:Do you notice that a happy couple that is pregnant calls their child a 'baby' They also say, I have 2 children and "one" on the way. Stop the immature semantics!
sueezee 3 years ago
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People "chose" abortion because of prejudice in the world, work place, family, & some religions, against unwed moms or prejudice against having a child & giving it up for adoption. These people haven't exercised free choice. They felt THEY HAD TO ABORT because they are too weak to stand up to a world that treats pregnant woman like dirt. Most who practice "pro-choice" are practicing "pro-fear"
& on the issue of fear, intersting that por-choice people are afraid of posters of aborted babies.
Mudlaps 3 years ago
well im not really a dumb ass come on lets not get too carried away i mean you dont know me..which yer probably makes it easier to put out words you dont understand. i just hope you dont talk to your kids/future kids like that. low esteem for a child isnt cool.
wehaveableeder 3 years ago
but you must understand that this video is american. its sensationalised to make you think just what you think!!! its not true!!! abortions are carried out in the most humain way possible... well they are in england anyway, i know that for sure! these are pro life videos dont forget! they are there to make you think abortion is horrible.. when actually it isnt anything like this!
wehaveableeder 3 years ago
THIS TOTALLY
changed my views on abortion........wow i didnt know it happen this this...in such a vile and cruel way...ugh
makes mt sick
almost made me cry..i LOVE children and crushing and bashing a unborn child this way is HORRIBLE there must be another way to do it....not like this thats...just meAN AND SICK
RideOrDieChick13 3 years ago