Is it right when we go to someone else's house to simply don't accept their religion, don't talk to anyone in the house being isolated in your own group, don't like their food and don't agree with their culture? Just enjoying the benefits to be in their house?
Islam will always be the way it was revealed to Prophet Muhammad.
Sarkozy hates Islam and Islamic law. He has explicitly expressed that in public. He should never be allowed in a mosque again. The French should do one thing. Allow Islam to be completely free in France. Or throw Islam out of France completely and shut down every mosque.
@nofreedom4racists It's not like you're going to see new Catholic churches built in Saudi Arabia or the Maldives. Hindus and Buddhists in countries like Malaysia and Indonesia still need to receive permits to build their houses of worship, and it's not uncommon for those permits to be repealed.
"The problem with France is that the politicians want to control Islam. And when Mr Sarkozi says he wants an Islam of France, what he really wants is an Islam alla Francese". Yes exactly; what they want is an enlightened Islam, not a Medieval one.
@BayAreaOrBust But in France, and in a different way in Russia, they have adapted very well. Muslims in France, and particularly the women, are just as French as anybody else, in my opinion, and I've meet enough of them to say this. This so-called "Muslim problem" is only in the US and the UK. The French are overwhelmingly talented at assimilating and embracing their immigrants, and their Muslims are no exception.
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Yes Muslims are guilty until proven innocent as their "holy book of bablings" calls other animals and pigs and calls for brutal treatment of otherwise peaceful people.
@wanagj8:55 Lo! the worst of beasts in Allah's sight are the ungrateful who will not believe. But you would have to be VERY blind and purposefully ignorant to the culture of Islam not to recognize that Islam regards ALL other religions followers as lower forms of life worthy of punishment and attack. Look at the videos from middle eastern TV shows and come live in the middle east to understand the mentality. As a non-muslim you are subject to constant persecution
@tjenk712 sorry but don't talk to me about culture and middle east or whatever..give me the verse that " calls" others animals, pigs and they are not worthy as you're claiming.
@wanagj You really want me to prove the sky is blue???Its funny that Muslims always have a contradicting paragraph to counter a sick paragraph demeaning people for not indulging in this sick cult. "The beginning of ALL evil is the notion that one man is better than another" ISLAM demotes all others to status of deservedly persecuted for not believing in their sick dogmatic and oppressive ideology. You want to understand Islams view of Christians and Jews and others ..go to a Mosque then kill
@tjenk712 ,,first of all I'm not ganna call you anything coz ISLAM tought me not to do so.seconly I didn't ask you to PROVE anything I just asked you to GIVE me the verses that support your claims about Islam.finaly I hope you don't waste your time because you will NOT ganna FIND any verses like that.peace
@wanagj Really...are you kidding? Want me to prove water is wet for you as well....I don't play these games. You know the Quran call non-believers (in its bullcrap) "the vilest of animals"...what do you extract from that? Go ahead and call my mother and father animals ..call a Hindu or a Buddist an animal without regard for their character...you and your "believers" are the cancer. My God is not a demented monster who tortures and lives to extract vengeance on "non-believers" your an animal
Reality check! Islam will take over the world just on birth rates without any so called 'gehad'! western women arent like they once were, they are selfish and against having children. If they do they dont have many, or continue to live selfishly without properly 'growing' their children,..and then complain against the way their husbands father the child and divorce believing their better able to raise the child! bye bye west and democracy. :(
Stupid politician, your words mean only weakness to these savages. They are gonna kick your French asses and rape your women and cut off your heads while you spout your whining intellectual babbling. Goodbye proud Europe, good luck "assimilating' the Islamic hoards. What happened the last time your Muslim "friends " took a tour of your country, how stupid and sad.
Every country that is infested with these Islamic chatter monkeys get them out if you still can or Europe will be Muslim controlled very soon. All citizens will bow down to the Allah god or be killed, or convert, or maybe be a slave and trust in your Muslim masters compassion. Good luck with that, and remember, they are totally committed, are you? Become Islamaphobic or be conquered idiots.
@ShitMovies2000: Often because we ve called them, in France s case at least they ve been convinced to come over to rebuilt the country after the war.
In other cases because we (the west) have destroyed, occupied, robbed their country. Christians are going in muslim countries too, but unlike the muslim who come to settle down we go with big guns, kill and impose ourselves! Open ur eyes dude...they don t do a tenth of what we do to them, with your tax money indeed.
@erwanderiot what are you talking about ,muslims shariat are peacfull ?why they do not stay home ? why they kill a lot of misionary and christians converted from muslims,and christians who do not want to convert to muslims?not christians bomb them ,and their people were happy to eskape from sadam's rejim, look how much they suffered under sadam's regim...
@ShitMovies2000 Muslim is not a race your ignorant evolved monkey. Muslims is faith. there are 6 million Muslims in France and almost half are French converts. They have to leave their own country because of a bigot like you? Impressive. I feel like French people think with their feet. You have the biggest prostitution on Earth. Your presidents slut is a stripper but you complain about Muslims women for covering. Very impressive.
@ShitMovies2000 Send them home, you cannot un-screw a pregnant woman. Just stop thier immigration and pass laws to prevent ANY religion for pulling the dirty nasty mentalities of this cult
"i dont get you europeans -you seem to want a multicultural society but not the people"...Here is your first problem. Many europeans don't want a multicultural society. Big business however wants large migration for cheap labour.
It is obvious they are targeting Muslims. Jesus said in the Christian bible that women should cover their hair ... Just like Christian nuns do, but I do not see the French banning nuns from covering their hair or banning them from wearing their modest clothing .. It is double standards and hypocrisy at its most hateful. If you are a white nun it is ok ... if you are non white it is not ok ... libertie, equalitie ... yeah right lol
what about french people who convert to Islam ? its their country too ... is your opinion superior to theirs even though they are white and french like you ?
ah well i understand where your coming from :) but people shouldn't be so afraid of the burqa ... there are much more different dresses out there ! lol look at vampires, emos and goths thats scarier to me !! :D
like where is the limit on dress ? who decides what is not allowed and what is allowed? should we have all dress is allowed? complete freedom? or not?
@Freez57fr What else do you not want. We will force all Muslims to dress and act the way you want. Give me a break. Who are you to decide what a woman wears or does not wear. Is this what the French revolution was for? impressive.
@Freez57fr Or Canada. I had a French friend. His name was Yuri but now Amin. He converted to Islam and now his wife, sister and mother all wear the Niqab or burqa as you call it. French are pretty smart, learned Arabic pretty fast and now can recite Quran better then an Arab. I wish all Muslims in France would come to Canada were they have the freedom to practice their belief. God bless Canada.
" I had a French friend. His name was Yuri but now Amin. He converted to Islam and now his wife, sister and mother all wear the Niqab or burqa as you call it."
---> This man is a stupid asshole.
I have compassion for his mother and his sister.
He can go leave in Canada, we don't want assholes like him in France.
" I wish all Muslims in France would come to Canada were they have the freedom to practice their belief. God bless Canada."
europe has a problem and it is not immigrants,is this low interest to build up a society of respect ,tolerance and family values and values that changes in each human where the wind takes it.
relativism is the norm-makes people loose them self
you are truly scurvy human. your fucking rotten mouth would change nothing. you r truly nothing. you and your bulshit ideology r catastrophe of humanity.
this is different from colonization ,the french invited them into france not being forced to and the arabs or algerians came because of economic reasons-if the french thinks this is good for their country so let them think so-its all about money and guilt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you didn't wished to be called these names, you should have abstained yourself from saying things that associate you with them. minus stupid : i didn't call you that. I said "playing stupid" cause you are smart enough to do it very well.
in the end, I care more about what other people will think when reading this exchange, than what a person with such opinions, thinks of the sense i make.
@BornInBosnia Salam Aleykum brother from Bosnia. Hope everything is well with you. Insha2allah the Ottoman Khilafa will rise again and this is why these people are so shaky. All fear from us is indicating that they can see what we cant that a power will rise insha2allah. Even though in our history they had no mercy on us and we always had on them but we are still feared more then China and India hahhaha. Salams from Canada.
Muslims don't integrate with society, they infiltrate and once strong enough, over-throw. Examples of this are throughout history, distant and recent... France take warning!
borninbosnia : The infiltration is the immigration. The over throw is the behaviour of muslim communities have by demanding each time more and more recognition of their faith, and more rights, rejecting more and more and european culture and values.
This is true in every european country, where sharia laws are demanded.
Need examples ? watch what happens in the city of Molenbeek in belgium where muslim are a big percentage of the population.
If immigration means "infiltration", then change your immigration laws or start having more children so your countries will not require immigration to sustain themselves. In regards to your explanation of "over throw" i think you've basically described the meaning of democracy, which is majority rules. If it's a crime for Muslims to demand more rights, then why don't you analize or criticize the demands of for ex. homosexuals who have gradually demanded their "way of life" to be recognized?
"If immigration means "infiltration", then change your immigration laws or start having more children so your countries will not require immigration to sustain themselves"
Yes. Or simply call immigration from population that are known to adapt easily.
Overthrow : If i send 20 millions of chinese to a 2 million populated african country and give them voting rights, is the democracy really representing the will of the local population ? It would, only if chenese adapted perfectly, and became as africans as the locals, by rejecting everything of their culture that made them chinese.
Now, democracy means equal rights for everybody, and not specific rights to a group because their faith demands to. The laws of european countries makes all people have the same rights within a country. That doesnt seem to be enough for muslim communities.
French homosexuals are people who have a french culture. They don't come from anywhere. In this situation, the demands comes from french people. This is the natural process of evolution and change of a population.
Democracy does not mean equal rights for everyone. Word comes from greek Demos (People) and Kratos (Rule), And by the way, you've proved my point with your last sentance. "This is the natural process of evolution and change of population" Thank you :)
Okay, you destroyed my whole arguments because i made a mistake of language by saying democracy literally means that exactly everyone should have equal rights.
So, you simply need to change, that part and replace it by "in our europeans democracy, every citizen has equal rights", and now you can answer my arguments correctly, by trying to prove me wrong on real facts, what you ommited to do =)
And if you consider massive immigration a natural process of evolution of a population, than you would consider the example i gave about chinese in an african country, natural too, and empty of any specific direction given. Which is obviously not the case.
The natural evolution of a people is the change desired by it, and not by someone else.
Or maybe you consider the changes done during colonization fully representative of the local, and therefore natural ?
Is that what you're holding on to? Mispelling of one letter. There's a big difference between missing the whole definition of a word that you hold so dearly and a spelling error of one letter. :)
We're not talking about Chinese here nor Africans. In terms of your comment regarding colonization, i hope you're talking about french colonization, it is perhaps the best example of inhumane, racist policies ever to be implemented in in the history of human race, So basically Charlelie, if you really examine the history of your country, it is not that bright and these so called liberties you are "enjoying" are quite recent. French should not brag about being champions of freedom or hu. rights.
yes we are not talking about africans or chinese, but what's the difference ? I gave an imaginary situation to illustrate the fact that when you bring a large population into an other society, giving the right to vote for everybody, would probably not represent the will of the local population. I'm sure you're smart enough to understand that, and saying that it's about french and not african, and maghrebians and not chinese is a good escape from your part to realize this fact.
About colonization, I consider taking decisions for maghreb instead of maghrebians was a bad thing, just as having any population participating in the choice of another one, just like chinese in africa, or maghrebians in france. And yes, colonization was a bad thing and i'm not proud that europe did that, but today, our european democracies are much better in terms of human rights and liberties than maghreb or arab countries, >>
and that is a reason why them emigrated to europe.
If you live in europe and at the same time criticize it for not having enough human rights, than i encourage you to go to your country of origin, and see how it is down there.
your helders came to europe to enjoy it's freedom and comfort.
If we were still racist today, we wouldn't have had polish , asians, spaniards, italians emigrating here.
We accepted them all and they all integrated apart from ... arabo-muslims, that's right.
My who came to Europe? I'm probubly more European than you Charlelie by racial standards. :) You know, blond hair, blue eyes. Integration? No one has to integrate into anything, you should put that through your head, as long as people pay taxes and obey your laws, then your idea of integration is just wishfull thinking. You talk about natural evolution of population but yet you would forcefully integrate everyone to your standards of confirmity. Is that why you want hijab banned?
At least, it's clear. Integration is not necessary for you, so you think it's okay if muslims come to europe without adopting local cultures and values while fully enjoying the comfort of the host countries. It is a way of not respecting the local populations. If 20 millions europeans emigrate to morroco and act according to their european way of life, not caring about how the locals lived before that, how the morrocans will feel with this subit invasion ?
from your capitalist point of view, paying tax is sufficient. Well i don't think so. Maybe i'm an utopist, but i prefer living with people that i share a culture and a lifestyle with, and not just people who pay taxes. Also, about respecting laws, muslim have a big problem. Wearing the veil is one thing that goes against laicity in france.
The views expressed are only mine, and i don't integrate anyone else in it. Where did you get that from ?
population is when the population takes decision for itself by judging what is best in others culture, and change theirs. When you bring a population that globally failed to integrate like muslims, the evolution is not natural because people who are culturally not part of that population have a partial power to make it evolve.
If you consider colonization was unfair to the natural evolution of north africa, than you must consider the immigration of non-integrated people unfair too.
to finish, you're more european than me because you have blond hair and blue eyes ? What a racist comment ! I don't consider myself european because i have white skin, but because i am of european culture ! islam is very different and opposed to europe, because it is too different and opposed to european culture, not because muslim people from muslim countries are generally non-whites !
I couldn't care less of the color of people as long as they agree to live with european values (integration)
and talking about respecting laws : England, germany, denmark, france, holland. Do muslim generally respect and accept the laws ? sons of Spaniards, italians and polish people, integrated well and have no problem respecting the laws.
I'm gonna keep this one short because obviously you like to elaborate on things that are of imaginary nature, and you've admitted yourself you're bit of an utopian thinker. Perhaps we all are in a way. However, you've called me couple of things that i have nothing to do with, capitalist and a racist. I've used the blond hair and blue eyes example to prove to you that Islam was, is and it will be part of Europe. Perhaps you should do more study on history of Islam in Europe. con't...
....Your story of integration goes so far. You believe that there should be a full or complete integration where imigrants, of non european descent, should confirm to cultural standards of the "host" country. Issue is bit more complexed than that however my belief is that there is a limit to integration. Regardless of this, my or your opinion, Islam continues to grow, rapidly, within European continent and as much as you hate to see that you need to accept it. In twenty years, con't.....
....In twenty years, Muslims will constitute majority in Europe, and these are irreversable facts. Finally, i think that my initial argument stands strong. Instead of preaching this complete integration of cultural values, which will never happen, reevaluate your stance and do something about it. Either your government should change the immigration laws or caucasian europeans should start having lot more kids to balance things out. :) Hijab ban won't do you any good.
And what you said was of capitalist nature, because considering that if people pay taxes then, nothing else matters is a capitalist point of view. I argue that the welbeing of the locals goes before the money, and that the presence of muslims threatens it and will do, even knowing that taxes paid, contributes the nation.
You recognize we have to take a decision if we are uncomfortable with this situation.
and either the choice we make, having more babies or stop immigration, it's us who have to make it, and having muslim immigrants in our country perturbates this choice.
Anyways, you described well the overthrow you were asking about in the first place, and I'm glad you assume loudly what most muslim immigrants wish quietly : to make western europe become muslim, thus making aware europeans of what's really going on, and giving my cause a great publicity. In the end, i have to thank you for it.
And i think you are right when you say "Instead of preaching this complete integration of cultural values, which will never happen, reevaluate your stance and do something about it"
it is Unfortunate for your community, knowing that the peaceful measure, consisting of asking them to integrate correctly, is not working, that harder measures will have to be taken to stop the take over.. But at least you recognized it.
Charlelie, you've said " Unfortunate for your community, knowing that the peaceful measure, consisting of asking them to integrate correctly, is not working, that harder measures will have to be taken to stop the take over.."
What type of harder measures are you proposing? :)
Unfortunately, if they have the wish to take over, just like you, which is a violent process in the fact that it doesn't leave the choice to the locals, then european people concerned about losing their culture will have to respond violently to stop it.
Just like colonization , a violent process in itself, called violence from the colonized to put a term to it.
I'm sure you consider legitimate the violence from the colonized, but, in contradiction, do not consider it legitimate from europeans.
You can see that this takeover is a bad thing, because you denounced it in colonization, but yet you don't see it as a bad thing when it happens to europeans. i see it as a bad thing on both sides.
LoL, i think you're confused now. But what happened to natural evolution you were talking about. See that's exactly the problem, if things don't go your way you turn to violence. Oh Charlelie, you should relax, take a deep breath and smell the essence fo turkish coffee that's coming from that new muslim shop just down your street. LOL......May God guide you to truth. Peace out...
Things didn't go their way for colonized populations in maghreb, and they turned to violence ... How rude from them ! The poor colonizers were facing an agressive behaviour from people who had the exigence to ask to rule themselves !
Are you definitely not able to see the problem the other way around ?
For my part, I prefer the smell of french baguette early in the morning :) And i can enjoy coffee from abroad, but only when it doesn't come along with an idea of invasion :D
and, tonight, Ill pray that your god finally teaches you a lesson abour respecting other peoples values and cultures, and that taking over them does not achieve that goal. Hard task for muslims though...
LOL...i'm trying to be serious, but i'm sorry many things that you write i'm having tough time connecting because they simply don't make any sense. You jump from one extreme to another and coffee coming with an idea of invasion is just one example. However i do appreciate your zeal to defend your point so please don't get offended. At least i didn't call you names like racist, capitalist and stupid.
i agree with Bornin Bosnia statement about Europe's immigration.. If their locals are angry about Muslims swarming over their industry, maybe they should start breeding early and out of their own family trailer... So they can have smart children, strong children who can help them sustain their economy.. If a state is self sufficient in manpower, they wont need immigrants.. Muslims countries dun really need ur population cos they've got oil to feed them(while it lasts)//
And you see nothing wrong with it. The facts are unarguable, and, of course, muslims are here, but you don't care if it's respectful of the people living here before them. I do.
You preocupy more about race on the subject of being european than i do, because you proved me you were one by your racial traits, when, on my part, european has more to do with culture, whatever the color of skin is. i need to mention i'm talking about western europe.
Imaginary nature : no, as i said, other migrants managed to fullfil my fantastic story of integration.
yes i think too, that muslims will constitue a majority in europe, because they have more children, and not because europeans of european culture (i'm talking about france, germany, and western europe in general, so your argument about historically eastern europe muslim populations is no valid) thought islam was a good thing, and adopted it.
First off, thank you for admitting you've lost the argument. Second of all, when you change the meaning of democracy from what it is to what you want it to be in legislature give me a shout and we'll continue this conversation. 'Till then take care.
You're the one who plays on the words instead of the ideas, by saying i admited to have lost the argument, and then you reproach me to bragg about a mistake of letter. I said that because in the first place you reproached me not to use a word in its true meaning, while perfectly understanding the sense of my sentence.
I'm not about little tricks to ridiculize the argument of the person in front of me, i argue on facts and ideas.
the problem with europe is is that we talk about respect but cant show self respect-we need foreign invasion to feel good about our self-its a history thing!!!!!!!!!!!.
the state of europe today can only be blamed on europeans not immigrants.
i dont get you europeans -you seem to want a multicultural society but not the people
there are alot of idiotic trash white european people that should be locked upp but i know some muslim people that are the kindest people i have ever known,best people on the planet-they dont want to transform europe or the uk into a islamic state but you see drunkards and trouble makers causing shit for most of us-do not judge so quickly people
They hate our society. They have everything about Europe - especially France.
They wish to transform the greatest nation on earth in a Caliphate.
It's time to make a stand out of love, not hate. Because it are followers of the Quran who hate our traditions, our culture, our beauty as they seek to hide it behind burkas.
you r right about "we wish to transform the greatest nation on earth in a Caliphate". the project are underway, someday the declaration of the reestablishment of the new Caliphate will realize western that their domination to Muslims lands is going end. the Caliph will soon declare jihad against army of evil
believe me most of the migrant don t want to live in france,and don t forget that s france which called and brought the muslim because they neeeded people to rebuild the country after war.after 20 years living in france with family how can do they go back to their country and beginning a new life..france is a hypocrit society "liberte egalite fraternite " everything is available but no for muslim.
I'm probably naive but what is wrong in France expecting a French version of Islam, I wonder?
I find this rather amusing. Why would the Muslims want to immigrate to France or any other country in Europe in the first place when they have dozens of Muslim countries to choose from?
So, while you've chosen to live in a European country, isn't it also natural that the country expects you to live according to its own rules and regulations?
Why should ANY religion get preferential treatment?
The Muslims always create problems where ever they are. Philippines India Africa. Everywhere governments are bending over backwards to make Muslims happy but it is never enough. There is always some new problem for them to complain about.
That's precisely what we are asking for, to live naturally and freely like other people on this earth. The problem is you won't leave us in peace. Whenever a Muslim or Islam is mentioed, you ostracize them and treat them like an oddity. What strange this special treatment is, I would say.
The issue of Muslims in Europe is that of citizens rarther than immigrants.
My friend IslamRose, how many of your own Muslim countries would allow European citizens and allow them to do whatever they want. If I were to visit a country in the Middle East (with a few exceptions), I am expected to behave and respect the local tradtions and cultures. In other words, be like a Muslim when you are in a Muslim country.
Think about it. You want us to change but you yourself never change. Now, isn't this hypocrisy?
How about this........ May All Of Us Be Guided To What Is Right!!! How About That!!!! No Degrating Of Each Others Religions Or Beliefs!!!! It Really Hurts To See People Write Or Believe Such Things.
The fact that the leaders of countries like the UK and France and the USA need to continually "reach out" to Muslims shows that there is something clearly wrong. Why do these leaders feel they have to do that? When was the last time the leader of one of these countries "reached out" to Hindus? Or Sikhs? or any other religious group. Why is it that we have to continuously tell the Muslims how much we like them and how much they contribute? What is really going on?
Muslims in Europe will add to the diversity and beauty which is European culture and history. No culture is separate. Muslims will add to Europe and Europe will add to the Muslim identity.
Wkumar07 ~ "Muslims in Europe will add to the diversity and beauty which is European culture."
That is pure liberal fantasy. Back in the real world the Muslims are not interested in integrating into European society. The Muslims are tearing Europe apart.
Really? As with all immigrant groups, whether it be Muslim or Hispanic, there will always be cultural change on a social level. There are Muslims who have no interest in integrating but the vast majority do. Muslims are the fastest growing population in many European countries and their diversity will add to what is already there. There is no ignoring this fact.
Europeans have been tearing apart Europe for centuries without the help of Muslims.
Stupid French, British and all the other European countries. just wait till you are all forced to follow sharia law, women in Burkas, killings, stoning for breaking Islamic law etc and etc No more freedom of speech, even now, you cannot criticize Islam or you are arrested. But Muslims stand on the streets and threaten to kill the people of the country they live in no one blinks an eye! What is wrong. Your are all frogs being boiled and you think you are just having a swim! WAKE UP!
they come to europe because we have a better way of life , a way of life that 'allah' for some reason could not give the muslims in their homeland. It wouldnt be so bad if there were only a few and the numbers were not increasing at a daily rate, but they are. The uk is becoming overun and france is not looking so good. And you know its bad when you hear people say 'maybe it would be better if hitler had won'.
God france let prussia then hitler roll right over them now they are letting muslims do it also. they better grow a pair of onions soon because the U.S. and England may not want to bail them out again.
is the French Muslim community starting to create a new Euro-Islam?
yes of course, and i am really proud of being Muslim
to people who hate Islam:
1. people who hate Islam will suffer till the day of their death
2. once you leave our countries, we will leave your countries
3. is it something prideful to destroy worship buildings ?????
4. please, read about Islam before saying that you hate Islam or Muslims
jameelah86 2 months ago
There was no great Islamophobia in the USA until Zionist bigots embarked on an organized campaign of financing Islamophobia and Arab-hatred.
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SadieMirsade 3 months ago
When I go to a new country is because I want to embrace their culture, not impose mine
talyemmanuela 5 months ago 4
Is it right when we go to someone else's house to simply don't accept their religion, don't talk to anyone in the house being isolated in your own group, don't like their food and don't agree with their culture? Just enjoying the benefits to be in their house?
talyemmanuela 5 months ago
islam was created by satan, hail Lord Jesus Christ, down with islam
packcrew1 7 months ago
this is disgusting, why are there so many niggers? Don't the french remember what does beasts did to them in Haiti?
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osban100 7 months ago
we are building their mosquees to burn them in each village, like made russians
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SpaceTimeContinuums 9 months ago
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Zanimater 9 months ago
@FeignofCorder r u Abrahamic
Zanimater 9 months ago
There is no God in islam its a false religion made by a false prophet
FeignofCordor 10 months ago
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MYwhiteshade 11 months ago
Islam will always be the way it was revealed to Prophet Muhammad.
Sarkozy hates Islam and Islamic law. He has explicitly expressed that in public. He should never be allowed in a mosque again. The French should do one thing. Allow Islam to be completely free in France. Or throw Islam out of France completely and shut down every mosque.
nofreedom4racists 1 year ago
@nofreedom4racists It's not like you're going to see new Catholic churches built in Saudi Arabia or the Maldives. Hindus and Buddhists in countries like Malaysia and Indonesia still need to receive permits to build their houses of worship, and it's not uncommon for those permits to be repealed.
TheGreaterGood80 1 year ago 3
Islam will always be the way it was revealed to Prophet Muhammad.
nofreedom4racists 1 year ago
"The problem with France is that the politicians want to control Islam. And when Mr Sarkozi says he wants an Islam of France, what he really wants is an Islam alla Francese". Yes exactly; what they want is an enlightened Islam, not a Medieval one.
Jinmane 1 year ago 4
Mulims in the western world either need to adapt OR LEAVE!!!
BayAreaOrBust 1 year ago 12
@BayAreaOrBust But in France, and in a different way in Russia, they have adapted very well. Muslims in France, and particularly the women, are just as French as anybody else, in my opinion, and I've meet enough of them to say this. This so-called "Muslim problem" is only in the US and the UK. The French are overwhelmingly talented at assimilating and embracing their immigrants, and their Muslims are no exception.
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Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
It's a shame because the community aspect of Islam is the most admirable part. It's just shackled by the actual infrastructure of Islam itself.
ExtremeBogom 1 year ago
perhaps muslims should just go back where they came from...
they've proven that they cannot live in 1st world countries.
Darusdei 1 year ago 8
Disgusting
jorge19880923 1 year ago
The only thing French I like is the Managa-twa.
johnnybagofdonets 1 year ago
Yes Muslims are guilty until proven innocent as their "holy book of bablings" calls other animals and pigs and calls for brutal treatment of otherwise peaceful people.
tjenk712 1 year ago
@tjenk712 jsut as the bible
mystmoorth 1 year ago
@mystmoorth Insinity and hate are definitely the realm of the quran
tjenk712 1 year ago
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@tjenk712 just as the bible
mystmoorth 1 year ago
@tjenk712 can you bring the verse where quran " calls" others animals and pigs!
wanagj 1 year ago
@wanagj 8:55 Lo! the worst of beasts in Allah's sight are the ungrateful who will not believe. But you would have to be VERY blind and purposefully ignorant to the culture of Islam not to recognize that Islam regards ALL other religions followers as lower forms of life worthy of punishment and attack. Look at the videos from middle eastern TV shows and come live in the middle east to understand the mentality. As a non-muslim you are subject to constant persecution
tjenk712 1 year ago
@tjenk712 sorry but don't talk to me about culture and middle east or whatever..give me the verse that " calls" others animals, pigs and they are not worthy as you're claiming.
wanagj 1 year ago
@wanagj You really want me to prove the sky is blue???Its funny that Muslims always have a contradicting paragraph to counter a sick paragraph demeaning people for not indulging in this sick cult. "The beginning of ALL evil is the notion that one man is better than another" ISLAM demotes all others to status of deservedly persecuted for not believing in their sick dogmatic and oppressive ideology. You want to understand Islams view of Christians and Jews and others ..go to a Mosque then kill
tjenk712 1 year ago
@tjenk712 ,,first of all I'm not ganna call you anything coz ISLAM tought me not to do so.seconly I didn't ask you to PROVE anything I just asked you to GIVE me the verses that support your claims about Islam.finaly I hope you don't waste your time because you will NOT ganna FIND any verses like that.peace
wanagj 1 year ago
@wanagj Really...are you kidding? Want me to prove water is wet for you as well....I don't play these games. You know the Quran call non-believers (in its bullcrap) "the vilest of animals"...what do you extract from that? Go ahead and call my mother and father animals ..call a Hindu or a Buddist an animal without regard for their character...you and your "believers" are the cancer. My God is not a demented monster who tortures and lives to extract vengeance on "non-believers" your an animal
tjenk712 1 year ago
BYE BYE France
tjenk712 1 year ago
wake up france!
Altamer100 1 year ago
To me, France has the perfect climate. It never gets too cold.
ExtremeBogom 1 year ago
Reality check! Islam will take over the world just on birth rates without any so called 'gehad'! western women arent like they once were, they are selfish and against having children. If they do they dont have many, or continue to live selfishly without properly 'growing' their children,..and then complain against the way their husbands father the child and divorce believing their better able to raise the child! bye bye west and democracy. :(
smokeybirdman 1 year ago
@queenshussars France is the country that colonized most Muslim countries, so France does not have the same views on Islam than other countries
fouini94 1 year ago
Stupid French don't do the mistake Indians have done and see what has become of India today, get rid of the scum as early as possible
pravi68 1 year ago
@pravi68 you said it man .
znaidnindianz 1 year ago
Stupid politician, your words mean only weakness to these savages. They are gonna kick your French asses and rape your women and cut off your heads while you spout your whining intellectual babbling. Goodbye proud Europe, good luck "assimilating' the Islamic hoards. What happened the last time your Muslim "friends " took a tour of your country, how stupid and sad.
takesinbjs247 1 year ago
Every country that is infested with these Islamic chatter monkeys get them out if you still can or Europe will be Muslim controlled very soon. All citizens will bow down to the Allah god or be killed, or convert, or maybe be a slave and trust in your Muslim masters compassion. Good luck with that, and remember, they are totally committed, are you? Become Islamaphobic or be conquered idiots.
takesinbjs247 1 year ago
The most succesfull countries have seperation of religion, and law.
They also have a mix of religions/beliefs.
ExtremeBogom 1 year ago
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CheckinGagaiNagain 1 year ago
Well what do you expect, this is France, not Pakistan.
ExtremeBogom 1 year ago
@ExtremeBogom I prefer Pakistan.
mmitwaly 1 year ago
@mmitwaly
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ExtremeBogom 1 year ago
Why the FUCK CAN'T MUSLIMS STAY IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY!?!?
Jeeeesus...
ShitMovies2000 1 year ago
@ShitMovies2000: Often because we ve called them, in France s case at least they ve been convinced to come over to rebuilt the country after the war.
In other cases because we (the west) have destroyed, occupied, robbed their country. Christians are going in muslim countries too, but unlike the muslim who come to settle down we go with big guns, kill and impose ourselves! Open ur eyes dude...they don t do a tenth of what we do to them, with your tax money indeed.
erwanderiot 1 year ago
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CheckinGagaiNagain 1 year ago
@erwanderiot what are you talking about ,muslims shariat are peacfull ?why they do not stay home ? why they kill a lot of misionary and christians converted from muslims,and christians who do not want to convert to muslims?not christians bomb them ,and their people were happy to eskape from sadam's rejim, look how much they suffered under sadam's regim...
lilicooc100 1 year ago
No shitmovies they want to become muslim like me you cant control people they pick the right path.
lolboy24 1 year ago
so you saying I'm french and I have to be sent back where?
lolboy24 1 year ago
@ShitMovies2000 Muslim is not a race your ignorant evolved monkey. Muslims is faith. there are 6 million Muslims in France and almost half are French converts. They have to leave their own country because of a bigot like you? Impressive. I feel like French people think with their feet. You have the biggest prostitution on Earth. Your presidents slut is a stripper but you complain about Muslims women for covering. Very impressive.
mmitwaly 1 year ago
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Europe should unite and send these FUCKING PEOPLE HOME.
ShitMovies2000 1 year ago 20
@ShitMovies2000 Send them home, you cannot un-screw a pregnant woman. Just stop thier immigration and pass laws to prevent ANY religion for pulling the dirty nasty mentalities of this cult
tjenk712 1 year ago
@ShitMovies2000
with the wealth they siole from the the ex colinies
nadeemmalikawan 1 year ago
@ShitMovies2000 : haha , their home is France. No wonder christians are killers & murderers.
kojekish 1 year ago
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islam will rise if you oppressive people like it or not, so you might as wekk convert now ,.
3yearappentice 2 years ago
SCREW YOU AND ISLAM !!!!!!
MrJohnnyrace 1 year ago
i hate you muslems your place is not in europe !!!!!!! and ypu stupid erupeans why dont you do something abute the islam who destroy your home!!!!!!
teyarok 2 years ago
ls this the country of Lious the Saint, Mazarin, Descartes, Rousseau, Napoleon, Clemenceau and De Gaulle ?
Why don't the French people rise up against this outrage ?
helmuthoorn 2 years ago 3
sterminio!
franlove100 2 years ago
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French people are such loosers!!
French country belong to us!
ALLAHU AKBAR!
vejsiska 2 years ago
@vejsiska you will be reported to the prefecture and deported.. carry on!
view587 2 years ago
"i dont get you europeans -you seem to want a multicultural society but not the people"...Here is your first problem. Many europeans don't want a multicultural society. Big business however wants large migration for cheap labour.
mooneepondskid 2 years ago 3
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France is racist .
It is obvious they are targeting Muslims. Jesus said in the Christian bible that women should cover their hair ... Just like Christian nuns do, but I do not see the French banning nuns from covering their hair or banning them from wearing their modest clothing .. It is double standards and hypocrisy at its most hateful. If you are a white nun it is ok ... if you are non white it is not ok ... libertie, equalitie ... yeah right lol
Mohsin77 2 years ago
I don't want Burqas in my country.
And Jesus wasn't French, so his opinion has no value XD
Freez57fr 2 years ago 3
what about french people who convert to Islam ? its their country too ... is your opinion superior to theirs even though they are white and french like you ?
Mohsin77 2 years ago
I have no problem with muslim who live in France, and who respect France.
But I don't want Burqas in my country, I don't like walking in the street and seeing muslims dressed like Afghans.
The hijab (scarf) is not a problem for me, but I don't want burqas.
There are limits.
Freez57fr 2 years ago 3
ah well i understand where your coming from :) but people shouldn't be so afraid of the burqa ... there are much more different dresses out there ! lol look at vampires, emos and goths thats scarier to me !! :D
Mohsin77 2 years ago
like where is the limit on dress ? who decides what is not allowed and what is allowed? should we have all dress is allowed? complete freedom? or not?
Mohsin77 2 years ago
@Freez57fr What else do you not want. We will force all Muslims to dress and act the way you want. Give me a break. Who are you to decide what a woman wears or does not wear. Is this what the French revolution was for? impressive.
mmitwaly 1 year ago
Islam exists for 14 centuries.
Burqas exist for 50 years.
Burqas are not clothes. There are some rules and laws in the life.
We can't do what we want.
I can't be nude in the street, a woman can't wear a burqa (she can't be identified).
And don't tell me bullshits like: "it's the religion", burqas have nothing to do with islam and exist for only 50 years.
If these women want wear burqas they have 2 choices:
- they can stay at home
- they can go live in Afghanistan/Iran/Saudi Arabia....
Freez57fr 1 year ago 3
@Freez57fr Or Canada. I had a French friend. His name was Yuri but now Amin. He converted to Islam and now his wife, sister and mother all wear the Niqab or burqa as you call it. French are pretty smart, learned Arabic pretty fast and now can recite Quran better then an Arab. I wish all Muslims in France would come to Canada were they have the freedom to practice their belief. God bless Canada.
mmitwaly 1 year ago
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@mmitwaly
" I had a French friend. His name was Yuri but now Amin. He converted to Islam and now his wife, sister and mother all wear the Niqab or burqa as you call it."
---> This man is a stupid asshole.
I have compassion for his mother and his sister.
He can go leave in Canada, we don't want assholes like him in France.
" I wish all Muslims in France would come to Canada were they have the freedom to practice their belief. God bless Canada."
---> I agree.
Please, muslims, leave France
Freez57fr 1 year ago
Allah hu Akbur
123N123t 2 years ago
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Allahu Akbar!
Islam will dominate the world !
God's willing !
Dodi9914 2 years ago
@Dodi9914 you wish Islam will dominate! It will never dominate!
lovechild6969 2 years ago
europe has a problem and it is not immigrants,is this low interest to build up a society of respect ,tolerance and family values and values that changes in each human where the wind takes it.
relativism is the norm-makes people loose them self
odinos9 2 years ago
you are truly scurvy human. your fucking rotten mouth would change nothing. you r truly nothing. you and your bulshit ideology r catastrophe of humanity.
djay0817 2 years ago
this is different from colonization ,the french invited them into france not being forced to and the arabs or algerians came because of economic reasons-if the french thinks this is good for their country so let them think so-its all about money and guilt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
odinos9 2 years ago
@odinos9
Because you, English, you have lessons to give?
Take care of your pakis...
Freez57fr 1 year ago
If you didn't wished to be called these names, you should have abstained yourself from saying things that associate you with them. minus stupid : i didn't call you that. I said "playing stupid" cause you are smart enough to do it very well.
in the end, I care more about what other people will think when reading this exchange, than what a person with such opinions, thinks of the sense i make.
charlelie 2 years ago
My last argument speaks for itself. It's been a pleasure. :)
BornInBosnia 2 years ago
@BornInBosnia Salam Aleykum brother from Bosnia. Hope everything is well with you. Insha2allah the Ottoman Khilafa will rise again and this is why these people are so shaky. All fear from us is indicating that they can see what we cant that a power will rise insha2allah. Even though in our history they had no mercy on us and we always had on them but we are still feared more then China and India hahhaha. Salams from Canada.
mmitwaly 1 year ago
Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Baptists, or Lutherans do not drive planes full of people into buildings. Only Muslims do that.
StacyatLife 2 years ago
You prefer mass extermination and dropping nuclear bombs on people.
BornInBosnia 2 years ago
I am sure you Muslim animals would gladly drop nuclear bombs if you had them.
StacyatLife 2 years ago
Little update for you Einstein! We do have nuclear bombs.:)
BornInBosnia 2 years ago
yes, we'll drop so many nuclear bomb especially on fucking israel just like US dropped the two nuclear bomb on nagasaki and hiroshima.
djay0817 2 years ago
Muslims don't integrate with society, they infiltrate and once strong enough, over-throw. Examples of this are throughout history, distant and recent... France take warning!
fnordguy 2 years ago
Could you give us one example of this "infiltration" and "over throw"?
BornInBosnia 2 years ago
borninbosnia : The infiltration is the immigration. The over throw is the behaviour of muslim communities have by demanding each time more and more recognition of their faith, and more rights, rejecting more and more and european culture and values.
This is true in every european country, where sharia laws are demanded.
Need examples ? watch what happens in the city of Molenbeek in belgium where muslim are a big percentage of the population.
charlelie 2 years ago
If immigration means "infiltration", then change your immigration laws or start having more children so your countries will not require immigration to sustain themselves. In regards to your explanation of "over throw" i think you've basically described the meaning of democracy, which is majority rules. If it's a crime for Muslims to demand more rights, then why don't you analize or criticize the demands of for ex. homosexuals who have gradually demanded their "way of life" to be recognized?
BornInBosnia 2 years ago
"If immigration means "infiltration", then change your immigration laws or start having more children so your countries will not require immigration to sustain themselves"
Yes. Or simply call immigration from population that are known to adapt easily.
charlelie 2 years ago
Overthrow : If i send 20 millions of chinese to a 2 million populated african country and give them voting rights, is the democracy really representing the will of the local population ? It would, only if chenese adapted perfectly, and became as africans as the locals, by rejecting everything of their culture that made them chinese.
charlelie 2 years ago
Now, democracy means equal rights for everybody, and not specific rights to a group because their faith demands to. The laws of european countries makes all people have the same rights within a country. That doesnt seem to be enough for muslim communities.
French homosexuals are people who have a french culture. They don't come from anywhere. In this situation, the demands comes from french people. This is the natural process of evolution and change of a population.
charlelie 2 years ago
Democracy does not mean equal rights for everyone. Word comes from greek Demos (People) and Kratos (Rule), And by the way, you've proved my point with your last sentance. "This is the natural process of evolution and change of population" Thank you :)
BornInBosnia 2 years ago
Okay, you destroyed my whole arguments because i made a mistake of language by saying democracy literally means that exactly everyone should have equal rights.
So, you simply need to change, that part and replace it by "in our europeans democracy, every citizen has equal rights", and now you can answer my arguments correctly, by trying to prove me wrong on real facts, what you ommited to do =)
charlelie 2 years ago
And if you consider massive immigration a natural process of evolution of a population, than you would consider the example i gave about chinese in an african country, natural too, and empty of any specific direction given. Which is obviously not the case.
The natural evolution of a people is the change desired by it, and not by someone else.
Or maybe you consider the changes done during colonization fully representative of the local, and therefore natural ?
charlelie 2 years ago
By the way, "sentence" and not "sentance".
Your whole opinions are destroyed ... Sorry =D
charlelie 2 years ago
Is that what you're holding on to? Mispelling of one letter. There's a big difference between missing the whole definition of a word that you hold so dearly and a spelling error of one letter. :)
BornInBosnia 2 years ago
We're not talking about Chinese here nor Africans. In terms of your comment regarding colonization, i hope you're talking about french colonization, it is perhaps the best example of inhumane, racist policies ever to be implemented in in the history of human race, So basically Charlelie, if you really examine the history of your country, it is not that bright and these so called liberties you are "enjoying" are quite recent. French should not brag about being champions of freedom or hu. rights.
BornInBosnia 2 years ago
yes we are not talking about africans or chinese, but what's the difference ? I gave an imaginary situation to illustrate the fact that when you bring a large population into an other society, giving the right to vote for everybody, would probably not represent the will of the local population. I'm sure you're smart enough to understand that, and saying that it's about french and not african, and maghrebians and not chinese is a good escape from your part to realize this fact.
charlelie 2 years ago
About colonization, I consider taking decisions for maghreb instead of maghrebians was a bad thing, just as having any population participating in the choice of another one, just like chinese in africa, or maghrebians in france. And yes, colonization was a bad thing and i'm not proud that europe did that, but today, our european democracies are much better in terms of human rights and liberties than maghreb or arab countries, >>
charlelie 2 years ago
and that is a reason why them emigrated to europe.
If you live in europe and at the same time criticize it for not having enough human rights, than i encourage you to go to your country of origin, and see how it is down there.
your helders came to europe to enjoy it's freedom and comfort.
If we were still racist today, we wouldn't have had polish , asians, spaniards, italians emigrating here.
We accepted them all and they all integrated apart from ... arabo-muslims, that's right.
charlelie 2 years ago
My who came to Europe? I'm probubly more European than you Charlelie by racial standards. :) You know, blond hair, blue eyes. Integration? No one has to integrate into anything, you should put that through your head, as long as people pay taxes and obey your laws, then your idea of integration is just wishfull thinking. You talk about natural evolution of population but yet you would forcefully integrate everyone to your standards of confirmity. Is that why you want hijab banned?
BornInBosnia 2 years ago
At least, it's clear. Integration is not necessary for you, so you think it's okay if muslims come to europe without adopting local cultures and values while fully enjoying the comfort of the host countries. It is a way of not respecting the local populations. If 20 millions europeans emigrate to morroco and act according to their european way of life, not caring about how the locals lived before that, how the morrocans will feel with this subit invasion ?
charlelie 2 years ago
from your capitalist point of view, paying tax is sufficient. Well i don't think so. Maybe i'm an utopist, but i prefer living with people that i share a culture and a lifestyle with, and not just people who pay taxes. Also, about respecting laws, muslim have a big problem. Wearing the veil is one thing that goes against laicity in france.
The views expressed are only mine, and i don't integrate anyone else in it. Where did you get that from ?
What i said is that a natural evolution of a
charlelie 2 years ago
population is when the population takes decision for itself by judging what is best in others culture, and change theirs. When you bring a population that globally failed to integrate like muslims, the evolution is not natural because people who are culturally not part of that population have a partial power to make it evolve.
If you consider colonization was unfair to the natural evolution of north africa, than you must consider the immigration of non-integrated people unfair too.
charlelie 2 years ago
to finish, you're more european than me because you have blond hair and blue eyes ? What a racist comment ! I don't consider myself european because i have white skin, but because i am of european culture ! islam is very different and opposed to europe, because it is too different and opposed to european culture, not because muslim people from muslim countries are generally non-whites !
I couldn't care less of the color of people as long as they agree to live with european values (integration)
charlelie 2 years ago
(in europe of course)
charlelie 2 years ago
and talking about respecting laws : England, germany, denmark, france, holland. Do muslim generally respect and accept the laws ? sons of Spaniards, italians and polish people, integrated well and have no problem respecting the laws.
charlelie 2 years ago
I'm gonna keep this one short because obviously you like to elaborate on things that are of imaginary nature, and you've admitted yourself you're bit of an utopian thinker. Perhaps we all are in a way. However, you've called me couple of things that i have nothing to do with, capitalist and a racist. I've used the blond hair and blue eyes example to prove to you that Islam was, is and it will be part of Europe. Perhaps you should do more study on history of Islam in Europe. con't...
BornInBosnia 2 years ago
....Your story of integration goes so far. You believe that there should be a full or complete integration where imigrants, of non european descent, should confirm to cultural standards of the "host" country. Issue is bit more complexed than that however my belief is that there is a limit to integration. Regardless of this, my or your opinion, Islam continues to grow, rapidly, within European continent and as much as you hate to see that you need to accept it. In twenty years, con't.....
BornInBosnia 2 years ago
....In twenty years, Muslims will constitute majority in Europe, and these are irreversable facts. Finally, i think that my initial argument stands strong. Instead of preaching this complete integration of cultural values, which will never happen, reevaluate your stance and do something about it. Either your government should change the immigration laws or caucasian europeans should start having lot more kids to balance things out. :) Hijab ban won't do you any good.
BornInBosnia 2 years ago
And what you said was of capitalist nature, because considering that if people pay taxes then, nothing else matters is a capitalist point of view. I argue that the welbeing of the locals goes before the money, and that the presence of muslims threatens it and will do, even knowing that taxes paid, contributes the nation.
You recognize we have to take a decision if we are uncomfortable with this situation.
charlelie 2 years ago
and either the choice we make, having more babies or stop immigration, it's us who have to make it, and having muslim immigrants in our country perturbates this choice.
Anyways, you described well the overthrow you were asking about in the first place, and I'm glad you assume loudly what most muslim immigrants wish quietly : to make western europe become muslim, thus making aware europeans of what's really going on, and giving my cause a great publicity. In the end, i have to thank you for it.
charlelie 2 years ago
And i think you are right when you say "Instead of preaching this complete integration of cultural values, which will never happen, reevaluate your stance and do something about it"
it is Unfortunate for your community, knowing that the peaceful measure, consisting of asking them to integrate correctly, is not working, that harder measures will have to be taken to stop the take over.. But at least you recognized it.
charlelie 2 years ago
Charlelie, you've said " Unfortunate for your community, knowing that the peaceful measure, consisting of asking them to integrate correctly, is not working, that harder measures will have to be taken to stop the take over.."
What type of harder measures are you proposing? :)
BornInBosnia 2 years ago
you want me to say that i want to be violent.
But i dont. I wish all immigrants integrated and were happy to be part of our nation.
You were the first one to say that something had to be done to stop the take over.
I said that it wouldn't be in your interest that "something else" is done more than asking peacefully to integrate.
charlelie 2 years ago
Unfortunately, if they have the wish to take over, just like you, which is a violent process in the fact that it doesn't leave the choice to the locals, then european people concerned about losing their culture will have to respond violently to stop it.
Just like colonization , a violent process in itself, called violence from the colonized to put a term to it.
I'm sure you consider legitimate the violence from the colonized, but, in contradiction, do not consider it legitimate from europeans.
charlelie 2 years ago
You can see that this takeover is a bad thing, because you denounced it in colonization, but yet you don't see it as a bad thing when it happens to europeans. i see it as a bad thing on both sides.
charlelie 2 years ago
LoL, i think you're confused now. But what happened to natural evolution you were talking about. See that's exactly the problem, if things don't go your way you turn to violence. Oh Charlelie, you should relax, take a deep breath and smell the essence fo turkish coffee that's coming from that new muslim shop just down your street. LOL......May God guide you to truth. Peace out...
BornInBosnia 2 years ago
Things didn't go their way for colonized populations in maghreb, and they turned to violence ... How rude from them ! The poor colonizers were facing an agressive behaviour from people who had the exigence to ask to rule themselves !
Are you definitely not able to see the problem the other way around ?
For my part, I prefer the smell of french baguette early in the morning :) And i can enjoy coffee from abroad, but only when it doesn't come along with an idea of invasion :D
charlelie 2 years ago
and, tonight, Ill pray that your god finally teaches you a lesson abour respecting other peoples values and cultures, and that taking over them does not achieve that goal. Hard task for muslims though...
charlelie 2 years ago
How can coffee come with an idea of invasion? :)
BornInBosnia 2 years ago
If all that is left to you to argument is playing stupid, then i guess the conversation is over ?
charlelie 2 years ago
LOL...i'm trying to be serious, but i'm sorry many things that you write i'm having tough time connecting because they simply don't make any sense. You jump from one extreme to another and coffee coming with an idea of invasion is just one example. However i do appreciate your zeal to defend your point so please don't get offended. At least i didn't call you names like racist, capitalist and stupid.
BornInBosnia 2 years ago
i agree with Bornin Bosnia statement about Europe's immigration.. If their locals are angry about Muslims swarming over their industry, maybe they should start breeding early and out of their own family trailer... So they can have smart children, strong children who can help them sustain their economy.. If a state is self sufficient in manpower, they wont need immigrants.. Muslims countries dun really need ur population cos they've got oil to feed them(while it lasts)//
gothless 2 years ago
And you see nothing wrong with it. The facts are unarguable, and, of course, muslims are here, but you don't care if it's respectful of the people living here before them. I do.
You preocupy more about race on the subject of being european than i do, because you proved me you were one by your racial traits, when, on my part, european has more to do with culture, whatever the color of skin is. i need to mention i'm talking about western europe.
charlelie 2 years ago
Imaginary nature : no, as i said, other migrants managed to fullfil my fantastic story of integration.
yes i think too, that muslims will constitue a majority in europe, because they have more children, and not because europeans of european culture (i'm talking about france, germany, and western europe in general, so your argument about historically eastern europe muslim populations is no valid) thought islam was a good thing, and adopted it.
Here is your Overthrow !
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charlelie 2 years ago
First off, thank you for admitting you've lost the argument. Second of all, when you change the meaning of democracy from what it is to what you want it to be in legislature give me a shout and we'll continue this conversation. 'Till then take care.
BornInBosnia 2 years ago
You're the one who plays on the words instead of the ideas, by saying i admited to have lost the argument, and then you reproach me to bragg about a mistake of letter. I said that because in the first place you reproached me not to use a word in its true meaning, while perfectly understanding the sense of my sentence.
I'm not about little tricks to ridiculize the argument of the person in front of me, i argue on facts and ideas.
charlelie 2 years ago
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charlelie 2 years ago
@fnordguy
Hitler said the same with the judes...
But... you're right.
We don't want muslims, like we don't want all the minorities.
Freez57fr 1 year ago
the problem with europe is is that we talk about respect but cant show self respect-we need foreign invasion to feel good about our self-its a history thing!!!!!!!!!!!.
the state of europe today can only be blamed on europeans not immigrants.
odinos9 2 years ago
Odinos9 : I don't need immigrants to feel good about myself ! Where does that idea comes from ?
Yes. Blame the extremists in europe. The extremists are of course swedish, tall, blond with blue eyes; and not immigrants !
charlelie 2 years ago
i have hindu faith. and i wanna listen from people of europe but not muslim what is their perception with hindu in their country?
riksha4200 2 years ago
i dont get you europeans -you seem to want a multicultural society but not the people
there are alot of idiotic trash white european people that should be locked upp but i know some muslim people that are the kindest people i have ever known,best people on the planet-they dont want to transform europe or the uk into a islamic state but you see drunkards and trouble makers causing shit for most of us-do not judge so quickly people
odinos9 2 years ago
"France pour le Francais"
la plupart des personnes qui portent la burqa ou le hijab sont francais!!!!!
mimilacocci 2 years ago
They hate our society. They have everything about Europe - especially France.
They wish to transform the greatest nation on earth in a Caliphate.
It's time to make a stand out of love, not hate. Because it are followers of the Quran who hate our traditions, our culture, our beauty as they seek to hide it behind burkas.
EQUALITY. LIBERTY. BROTHERHOOD.
FRANCE POUR LE FRANCAIS!!!
Corlemagne 2 years ago 4
you r right about "we wish to transform the greatest nation on earth in a Caliphate". the project are underway, someday the declaration of the reestablishment of the new Caliphate will realize western that their domination to Muslims lands is going end. the Caliph will soon declare jihad against army of evil
djay0817 2 years ago
believe me most of the migrant don t want to live in france,and don t forget that s france which called and brought the muslim because they neeeded people to rebuild the country after war.after 20 years living in france with family how can do they go back to their country and beginning a new life..france is a hypocrit society "liberte egalite fraternite " everything is available but no for muslim.
mimilacocci 2 years ago
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Corlemagne 2 years ago
I'm probably naive but what is wrong in France expecting a French version of Islam, I wonder?
I find this rather amusing. Why would the Muslims want to immigrate to France or any other country in Europe in the first place when they have dozens of Muslim countries to choose from?
So, while you've chosen to live in a European country, isn't it also natural that the country expects you to live according to its own rules and regulations?
Why should ANY religion get preferential treatment?
uchilledfrance 2 years ago
The Muslims always create problems where ever they are. Philippines India Africa. Everywhere governments are bending over backwards to make Muslims happy but it is never enough. There is always some new problem for them to complain about.
yahazif 2 years ago
That's precisely what we are asking for, to live naturally and freely like other people on this earth. The problem is you won't leave us in peace. Whenever a Muslim or Islam is mentioed, you ostracize them and treat them like an oddity. What strange this special treatment is, I would say.
The issue of Muslims in Europe is that of citizens rarther than immigrants.
Islam0Rose 2 years ago
My friend IslamRose, how many of your own Muslim countries would allow European citizens and allow them to do whatever they want. If I were to visit a country in the Middle East (with a few exceptions), I am expected to behave and respect the local tradtions and cultures. In other words, be like a Muslim when you are in a Muslim country.
Think about it. You want us to change but you yourself never change. Now, isn't this hypocrisy?
uchilledfrance 2 years ago
How about this........ May All Of Us Be Guided To What Is Right!!! How About That!!!! No Degrating Of Each Others Religions Or Beliefs!!!! It Really Hurts To See People Write Or Believe Such Things.
hinamori102 2 years ago 3
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fack france trash, all those so called native french are actually chameleon jews cowards.
i'm more french than any frogies
themuslim4ever 2 years ago
sale islamique...Mes ancetres ont presque detruit les tiens pendant les croisades
NIKKKRED 2 years ago
Please see this Video...Thank U... Peace Be Unto You!!:
Evolution Is Racism
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A Message To All Muslims
watch?v=ozq2wBLLpAY
1802ibrahim 2 years ago
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In quran names just stolen from the bible, Jesus included,
Quran one big unique lie, never seen something like this before in my life.
Allah an old pagan godhood
Islam is the name of a certain Mohammed his private company until he got the idea with the religion...
The historical facts of islam do not make sense, in other words, the facts show that islam is a joke
...any more questions????
megatown 2 years ago
mega town ...u r an ass!!nd ur life is a joke
norelhouda10 2 years ago
to hear this from certain people is just like a compliment. God bless you
megatown 2 years ago
The fact that the leaders of countries like the UK and France and the USA need to continually "reach out" to Muslims shows that there is something clearly wrong. Why do these leaders feel they have to do that? When was the last time the leader of one of these countries "reached out" to Hindus? Or Sikhs? or any other religious group. Why is it that we have to continuously tell the Muslims how much we like them and how much they contribute? What is really going on?
yahazif 2 years ago
Muslims in Europe will add to the diversity and beauty which is European culture and history. No culture is separate. Muslims will add to Europe and Europe will add to the Muslim identity.
Wkumar07 2 years ago
Wkumar07 ~ "Muslims in Europe will add to the diversity and beauty which is European culture."
That is pure liberal fantasy. Back in the real world the Muslims are not interested in integrating into European society. The Muslims are tearing Europe apart.
BarfObama 2 years ago 5
Really? As with all immigrant groups, whether it be Muslim or Hispanic, there will always be cultural change on a social level. There are Muslims who have no interest in integrating but the vast majority do. Muslims are the fastest growing population in many European countries and their diversity will add to what is already there. There is no ignoring this fact.
Europeans have been tearing apart Europe for centuries without the help of Muslims.
Wkumar07 2 years ago
Stupid French, British and all the other European countries. just wait till you are all forced to follow sharia law, women in Burkas, killings, stoning for breaking Islamic law etc and etc No more freedom of speech, even now, you cannot criticize Islam or you are arrested. But Muslims stand on the streets and threaten to kill the people of the country they live in no one blinks an eye! What is wrong. Your are all frogs being boiled and you think you are just having a swim! WAKE UP!
mediamogul90 2 years ago 2
akhan62: "islam is not man made"
No, it was created by the Devil (read the Satanic verses). And by the way; the moon is a yellow cheese.
3xtob 3 years ago
My God, u wanna have a factual argument citing from a novel... Hw dumb can white ppl be?...
gothless 2 years ago 3
they come to europe because we have a better way of life , a way of life that 'allah' for some reason could not give the muslims in their homeland. It wouldnt be so bad if there were only a few and the numbers were not increasing at a daily rate, but they are. The uk is becoming overun and france is not looking so good. And you know its bad when you hear people say 'maybe it would be better if hitler had won'.
trigga1uk 3 years ago
God france let prussia then hitler roll right over them now they are letting muslims do it also. they better grow a pair of onions soon because the U.S. and England may not want to bail them out again.
archeeizm 3 years ago 2
England isn't doing so well in this respect either.
mediamogul90 2 years ago
Great video and subject
theray2006 3 years ago
The Religion of Hypocrites/pedofiles muhammed cock suckig pig
ISLAMOFASCISME
I ntolerance
S ubmission/sex maniacs
L owlife
A ssholes
M urders
When we terminate this ruthless Islamic pollution?
What shall we do with the waste?
pbave2 3 years ago