I guess there might be some validity to this nonsense if lets say humans did not die. The problem is, is that every 10 out of 10 people die and death is a result of sin. It truly takes more faith to be an atheist than a Christian. But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise. 1 Corinthians 1:27
You use names like Stalin, Mao, and Polpot to equate atheism with 'bad' people. Those people were horrible. I'm nothing like them. More people have been killed invoking the name of Jesus than all of them combined. More people have been killed in the name of Allah than all of them combined. Does that make you just as bad as the killers, murderers, and military leaders giving the command to kill.
Thats the trouble with atheist that they conder no acts sinful or wrong, that can lead to a very disgusting society with children being raped, beastiality and sodomy and many mores acts I would not even like to write.
Thatis where this new atheism is scary, even being alive in no great experience as the said it could be any point in time so not even the enviroment is respected and polluted. Atheism use to be about not having a belief but these people do fanatically.
@beginization Ok it can lead to this society but the present is that this "morals" are inherent in religion. Take muslims for all.
By the way it is easy to search for demographical evidence that present day "atheistic" societies outperform religulous societies: atheism (or better no magical thinking -ism) correlates with: education, intelligence, better health system, highly evolved law system, and mainly less crime. How to destroy religion? Mainly education, reason, knowledge.
@J0EH3AD But Atheist do believe in magic, you believe in the big bang but are unable to imagine what caused it and wont even let ideas science cant anwer be spoken about.
You believe in evolution that only took place so long ago there is no evidence. No transitional species anywhere, its like evolution magicly stopped. I thought it would be still going on today but dont see many new species, all seem pretty stable to me genetically, nothing new except mudskippers out of Billions of species
@beginization My poor illiterate friend. Evolution of organism can be easily seen day by day - just ask any medical doctor. Since we started to use antibiotics - natural selection took place and after about 80 years bacteria developed unimaginable biochemistry to protect themselves. In fifties dose of penicilin could be something like 200mg, nowdays it is 700-1000mg. This is called evolution by natural selection. Get educated religulous troll.
@J0EH3AD thats the trouble with atheist you make up you own stories to make you believe it all.
You are very mixed up, do you decide to walk foward then 5 steps back just to show you walk differently. You have a hate for islam but use religion to hide you complaints so your not labled racist. Atheist worlds have been full of death, you dont see any problem getting rid of the old, weak, defective and racial.
Hitler, Mao, Stalin,and polpot have shown atheist society for what it is under Darwism.
@beginization My poor iliterate friend. You are mixing socialism and comunism with nonreligion - they were not distinguishable form religion. By the way you can check demographic studies from present - nonreligious countries are most educated, higher health care, lower crime rate, higher gross national happiness, most developed. I know it hurts, these are just crude noncompromise data and you can check them and cry. Atheism correlates with intelligence (if you know what it is). Go cry to gods.
@J0EH3AD You serious dont know Lenin, stalin, marx and Mao were atheists
even Dawkins knows that. Your mixing a cult " islam " with God but answer this.
After so many years of attacking people of faith, removing God from society all you atheists support building a Mosque on Ground zero muslim attack.
Why such a kinship with a violent race ? Look at Hitchens he preached hate against peaceful people and ended up with cancer, Karma or God and Dawkins was given the voice of a elderly women.
@wowpapa I would, as an atheist, consider sexual intercourse with my family members a sin against nature.. but that's mainly because i know what the outcome would be :s
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The tragic illustration of the guilt-phenomenon is seen in adults who were abused (sexually and physically, in particular) as children. Initially, they feel so guilty (responsible) about the abuse inflicted on them that they experience existential shame. The only way out of this dilemma is through a phase of anger at the abuser. Ultimately, they drop this burden when they choose to forgive.
Religiously *prescribed* forgiveness is convenient to the abuser but counter-healing to the victim.
This is so brilliant I don't even have words to describe it. I have a similar story to your dog story. The thing I hate to hear most and hear occasionally, is that dogs don't matter as much because they don't have a soul. This is one of the easiest ways to enrage me it turns out.
@mikejackson4ever How do you define self-aware? I am absolutely sure that dog is self aware. Even fly is self aware - try to do her harm. It will try to escape with all power.
i dont know man your saying that sin was built of trial and a roar but if people truly learn from their mistakes why duos history repeat its self? or why do so Meany people do what thay know what will harm them in the long run such as drugs???
Reply to Saxonhaste. I think you need to realize that doing drugs isn't a sin, its every persons right to do to themselves what they choose, it may be a mistake but it is not a sin and a mistake is only a mistake until you learn from it so there is no need for guilt or shame. just remember there is no sin but to take away the freewill of another, there are plenty of things not right 4 you in this life but until you hurt someone else you are not committing a sin!!!
The original meaning of the word "sin" came from archery. It meant simply to miss the mark. So "sin" is always relative to the context. What mark are you trying to hit? I think there is still a place in our language for the word "sin", but religion cannot tell us what mark to aim for. That is the moral responsibility of each individual.
That is an excelent example of sin being classic reflex & opperant conditioning, Religious brainwashing has to be the worst form of child-abuse. It steals their whole future & self worth.
I moved from Canada to New Zealand 26 years ago. I did my time in Christianity and was even in the choir for years until I got to the age of reason.
New Zealand is a lovely place thoroughly modern and I've noticed that religion has much less grip on its citizens here. I only know one couple that go to Church regularly (oh and my Wife's father who's a serious Bible Thumper).
When I went to Illinois last year it really struck me how religious everyone was. I was shocked.
It's the whole "you can't have morals without religion" thing. Once many found out that I was, and am and always will be atheist they thought that I'd do anything to anyone for any selfish reason at all that popped into my head. When you're seen as having nothing stopping you from being a crook or rapist then you BECOME one in their eyes. Friend loss quickly follows along with losing your job. These people REALLY do believe what they say they believe. They terrify me, maybe I'll move to CA.
My rational mind defeated the disgusting parasites of religion long ago, and, subsequently, I tried what you suggest long ago as well. It freed my mind and individuality at the cost of total and complete social and economic rejection here in the United States of Jesus. Though poor and mostly friendless now, it was an excellent trade. I'd do it all over again. I'd rather own my mind and body without provision rather than keep acceptance and social status.
Could you please elaborate on the economic rejection upon coming out as an Atheist?
I knew that Atheists were the most disliked minority in USA but i didn't think it was that bad that it would bring major economic consequences with it. :S
When I think of sin I also think of the mental torture I went through, and still experiencing to a certain extent when I think back. I feel that I went through a kind of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder, correction while I think harder...I did go through PSD because I was a witness to the murdering of my psyche (I/me) taking place. And the battlefield was in my world...but not by my choice. My psyche was a prisoner of this war imposed on I. They tortured me with the instrument of SIN.
And those who wielded this instrument of SIN were the least virtuous and moral by the ways of their methodology (whether they were conscious or having any cognition of this or not) to try to impose their control over me with their idiot-ology. I am more virtuous and moral than them, the Pope present or any past, and all the Mullahs put together in this world and past...I walk tall with my head up high with humility and humbleness knowing this.
The anger and rage that I feel at times for being misguided is only balanced by being able to see clearly and truthfully, past the constructs such as sin. And more importantly being able to see how life is more beautiful and precious than anything in the universe, because as quick as it manifested itself it will go out at the blink of an eye in the backdrop of the life span of our universe. Oh how I love life so much.
...I have often used the analogy, of a match in the backdrop of a human life span to convey this to the young ones. Our life is no different than a match, but during the life time of a match, it becomes a brilliantly a glorious moment, because it emblazons a cold darkness with light and warmness...and the harder it burns the more of darkness will be revealed and the wonderful colours the it hides, and we must be thankful to the mysteries of the universe that we exist to be a witness of it.
In conclusion the religious construct of sin has taking up to much of human kinds time to discover and explore for the little time that we do have.
As cliche that it may sound, to all my fellow humans, love, respect, understand, and live life to the fullest, and sin as an idiot-ology taking up space in ones mind and time will thus cease to exist.
Thanks for this series on "Religion the Great Hijacker", I shared them in the form of a video blog on MySpace. I appreciate the common sense, rationale and logic in your videos.
Great, higher social mammals have the concept of sin. But WE are the first species to lift that concept out of the muck and into World 3.
It's territory unexplored by Mother Nature. We're her pathfinders. We test pilots die in pursuit of her knowledge. We know we have the potential to embrace destructive belief systems but now what? Not embracing the concept of sin doesn't explore anything.
5***** I love this new series VC. I thought part 3 was fantastic but this one is the best so far. Each has a very significant meaning or value to me personally. Thank you so much for making them.
I guess there might be some validity to this nonsense if lets say humans did not die. The problem is, is that every 10 out of 10 people die and death is a result of sin. It truly takes more faith to be an atheist than a Christian. But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise. 1 Corinthians 1:27
thehuddlechannel 1 year ago
@beginization
You use names like Stalin, Mao, and Polpot to equate atheism with 'bad' people. Those people were horrible. I'm nothing like them. More people have been killed invoking the name of Jesus than all of them combined. More people have been killed in the name of Allah than all of them combined. Does that make you just as bad as the killers, murderers, and military leaders giving the command to kill.
Your argument is self serving and non objective.
hometubing 1 year ago
Correction to your misrepresentation, if a Muslim woman gets raped from anyone there is no sin on her, nor does she have to feel sinful.
lifendsoon 1 year ago
Thats the trouble with atheist that they conder no acts sinful or wrong, that can lead to a very disgusting society with children being raped, beastiality and sodomy and many mores acts I would not even like to write.
Thatis where this new atheism is scary, even being alive in no great experience as the said it could be any point in time so not even the enviroment is respected and polluted. Atheism use to be about not having a belief but these people do fanatically.
beginization 1 year ago
@beginization Ok it can lead to this society but the present is that this "morals" are inherent in religion. Take muslims for all.
By the way it is easy to search for demographical evidence that present day "atheistic" societies outperform religulous societies: atheism (or better no magical thinking -ism) correlates with: education, intelligence, better health system, highly evolved law system, and mainly less crime. How to destroy religion? Mainly education, reason, knowledge.
J0EH3AD 1 year ago
@J0EH3AD But Atheist do believe in magic, you believe in the big bang but are unable to imagine what caused it and wont even let ideas science cant anwer be spoken about.
You believe in evolution that only took place so long ago there is no evidence. No transitional species anywhere, its like evolution magicly stopped. I thought it would be still going on today but dont see many new species, all seem pretty stable to me genetically, nothing new except mudskippers out of Billions of species
beginization 1 year ago
@beginization My poor illiterate friend. Evolution of organism can be easily seen day by day - just ask any medical doctor. Since we started to use antibiotics - natural selection took place and after about 80 years bacteria developed unimaginable biochemistry to protect themselves. In fifties dose of penicilin could be something like 200mg, nowdays it is 700-1000mg. This is called evolution by natural selection. Get educated religulous troll.
J0EH3AD 1 year ago
@J0EH3AD thats the trouble with atheist you make up you own stories to make you believe it all.
You are very mixed up, do you decide to walk foward then 5 steps back just to show you walk differently. You have a hate for islam but use religion to hide you complaints so your not labled racist. Atheist worlds have been full of death, you dont see any problem getting rid of the old, weak, defective and racial.
Hitler, Mao, Stalin,and polpot have shown atheist society for what it is under Darwism.
beginization 1 year ago
@beginization My poor iliterate friend. You are mixing socialism and comunism with nonreligion - they were not distinguishable form religion. By the way you can check demographic studies from present - nonreligious countries are most educated, higher health care, lower crime rate, higher gross national happiness, most developed. I know it hurts, these are just crude noncompromise data and you can check them and cry. Atheism correlates with intelligence (if you know what it is). Go cry to gods.
J0EH3AD 1 year ago
@J0EH3AD You serious dont know Lenin, stalin, marx and Mao were atheists
even Dawkins knows that. Your mixing a cult " islam " with God but answer this.
After so many years of attacking people of faith, removing God from society all you atheists support building a Mosque on Ground zero muslim attack.
Why such a kinship with a violent race ? Look at Hitchens he preached hate against peaceful people and ended up with cancer, Karma or God and Dawkins was given the voice of a elderly women.
beginization 1 year ago
I guess sin to an atheist could be breaking the laws of your country.
wowpapa 1 year ago
@wowpapa I would, as an atheist, consider sexual intercourse with my family members a sin against nature.. but that's mainly because i know what the outcome would be :s
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shrikechan 2 years ago 2
I believe saluting a flag (or patriotism) is just as offensive as religion. It is dogma that requires utter obedience and utter ignorance.
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ndjarnag 2 years ago 3
The tragic illustration of the guilt-phenomenon is seen in adults who were abused (sexually and physically, in particular) as children. Initially, they feel so guilty (responsible) about the abuse inflicted on them that they experience existential shame. The only way out of this dilemma is through a phase of anger at the abuser. Ultimately, they drop this burden when they choose to forgive.
Religiously *prescribed* forgiveness is convenient to the abuser but counter-healing to the victim.
Archaenum 2 years ago
This is so brilliant I don't even have words to describe it. I have a similar story to your dog story. The thing I hate to hear most and hear occasionally, is that dogs don't matter as much because they don't have a soul. This is one of the easiest ways to enrage me it turns out.
Thulgore 2 years ago 5
Only three animals have been conclusively proven to be self-aware. Dogs are not one of them.
mikejackson4ever 2 years ago
@mikejackson4ever How do you define self-aware? I am absolutely sure that dog is self aware. Even fly is self aware - try to do her harm. It will try to escape with all power.
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rustyshackelford1980 2 years ago 2
i dont know man your saying that sin was built of trial and a roar but if people truly learn from their mistakes why duos history repeat its self? or why do so Meany people do what thay know what will harm them in the long run such as drugs???
saxonhaste 3 years ago
History repeats itself , due to human ignorance.
Ignorance, prevalent in faith/religious circles.
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logicKey101 2 years ago
Reply to Saxonhaste. I think you need to realize that doing drugs isn't a sin, its every persons right to do to themselves what they choose, it may be a mistake but it is not a sin and a mistake is only a mistake until you learn from it so there is no need for guilt or shame. just remember there is no sin but to take away the freewill of another, there are plenty of things not right 4 you in this life but until you hurt someone else you are not committing a sin!!!
logicKey101 2 years ago 2
The original meaning of the word "sin" came from archery. It meant simply to miss the mark. So "sin" is always relative to the context. What mark are you trying to hit? I think there is still a place in our language for the word "sin", but religion cannot tell us what mark to aim for. That is the moral responsibility of each individual.
TheMathGuy 3 years ago
Every HUMAN should watch listen and internalize what this guy 'victimlesscriminal' is saying.
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kingkongpingpongdong 3 years ago 5
That is an excelent example of sin being classic reflex & opperant conditioning, Religious brainwashing has to be the worst form of child-abuse. It steals their whole future & self worth.
crowhawk 3 years ago 4
Kimba! I used to love that cartoon...
kaduisaui 3 years ago
there's a ring of truth about this
stokeundersiege 3 years ago
Excellent series!
I moved from Canada to New Zealand 26 years ago. I did my time in Christianity and was even in the choir for years until I got to the age of reason.
New Zealand is a lovely place thoroughly modern and I've noticed that religion has much less grip on its citizens here. I only know one couple that go to Church regularly (oh and my Wife's father who's a serious Bible Thumper).
When I went to Illinois last year it really struck me how religious everyone was. I was shocked.
warren52nz 3 years ago 3
It's the whole "you can't have morals without religion" thing. Once many found out that I was, and am and always will be atheist they thought that I'd do anything to anyone for any selfish reason at all that popped into my head. When you're seen as having nothing stopping you from being a crook or rapist then you BECOME one in their eyes. Friend loss quickly follows along with losing your job. These people REALLY do believe what they say they believe. They terrify me, maybe I'll move to CA.
LordSlag 3 years ago 3
My rational mind defeated the disgusting parasites of religion long ago, and, subsequently, I tried what you suggest long ago as well. It freed my mind and individuality at the cost of total and complete social and economic rejection here in the United States of Jesus. Though poor and mostly friendless now, it was an excellent trade. I'd do it all over again. I'd rather own my mind and body without provision rather than keep acceptance and social status.
LordSlag 3 years ago 10
Could you please elaborate on the economic rejection upon coming out as an Atheist?
I knew that Atheists were the most disliked minority in USA but i didn't think it was that bad that it would bring major economic consequences with it. :S
Intse 3 years ago
Poor dog...
iwanttoknowgod 3 years ago 3
When I think of sin I also think of the mental torture I went through, and still experiencing to a certain extent when I think back. I feel that I went through a kind of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder, correction while I think harder...I did go through PSD because I was a witness to the murdering of my psyche (I/me) taking place. And the battlefield was in my world...but not by my choice. My psyche was a prisoner of this war imposed on I. They tortured me with the instrument of SIN.
1/Sin
Aegialeus 3 years ago 2
Some of sin's different torturous attachments: atonement; redemption; penitence; self-abasement; punishment; self-punishment (my wake-up call).
But the 'form' 'sin' in this case was 'content' belonged to the created 'form' 'god'
Imagine that, being persuaded that an imaginary being is upset at me. What a moronic way to try to teach morals and virtuousness.
2/Sin
Aegialeus 3 years ago
And those who wielded this instrument of SIN were the least virtuous and moral by the ways of their methodology (whether they were conscious or having any cognition of this or not) to try to impose their control over me with their idiot-ology. I am more virtuous and moral than them, the Pope present or any past, and all the Mullahs put together in this world and past...I walk tall with my head up high with humility and humbleness knowing this.
3/Sin
Aegialeus 3 years ago
The anger and rage that I feel at times for being misguided is only balanced by being able to see clearly and truthfully, past the constructs such as sin. And more importantly being able to see how life is more beautiful and precious than anything in the universe, because as quick as it manifested itself it will go out at the blink of an eye in the backdrop of the life span of our universe. Oh how I love life so much.
4/Sin
Aegialeus 3 years ago
...I have often used the analogy, of a match in the backdrop of a human life span to convey this to the young ones. Our life is no different than a match, but during the life time of a match, it becomes a brilliantly a glorious moment, because it emblazons a cold darkness with light and warmness...and the harder it burns the more of darkness will be revealed and the wonderful colours the it hides, and we must be thankful to the mysteries of the universe that we exist to be a witness of it.
5/Sin
Aegialeus 3 years ago
In conclusion the religious construct of sin has taking up to much of human kinds time to discover and explore for the little time that we do have.
As cliche that it may sound, to all my fellow humans, love, respect, understand, and live life to the fullest, and sin as an idiot-ology taking up space in ones mind and time will thus cease to exist.
Oh how I love life.
6/Sin
Aegialeus 3 years ago
It took me about 2 years to feel free of the brainwashing of sin.
johnnyk2112 3 years ago 2
Thanks for this series on "Religion the Great Hijacker", I shared them in the form of a video blog on MySpace. I appreciate the common sense, rationale and logic in your videos.
cosmos11 3 years ago 6
Sin=A debt to god=Quite stupid.
qanazir 3 years ago 5
Yes - and I've rated this vid as awesome - BUT:
Great, higher social mammals have the concept of sin. But WE are the first species to lift that concept out of the muck and into World 3.
It's territory unexplored by Mother Nature. We're her pathfinders. We test pilots die in pursuit of her knowledge. We know we have the potential to embrace destructive belief systems but now what? Not embracing the concept of sin doesn't explore anything.
HGLOBAL 3 years ago
Yes!
HGLOBAL 3 years ago
Simply brilliant.
DeletedDelusion 3 years ago
This is a wonderful series. I have posted each as a bulletin on my myspace page. Thanks for your rational, logical videos.
cosmos11 3 years ago
5***** I love this new series VC. I thought part 3 was fantastic but this one is the best so far. Each has a very significant meaning or value to me personally. Thank you so much for making them.
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rockchickhoney 3 years ago
in the past I didn't really like you,but now I am subscribing
BlueDesertScorpion 3 years ago 3
this might be my favorite video you have made so far.
4sight 3 years ago 4
Very good
Redshift21 3 years ago 4
I have happily lived my whole life with never once believing in the moronic idea of religion or sin.
And i know i am a better person for it.
Atheistprimate 3 years ago 15
Excellent, again!
newalbion 3 years ago 2
As useual, you really cover your ground. Excellent!
Clemburke1111 3 years ago 6