@sammiedodgers not much... a tkd round kick though is more of a linear kick with the power coming from only the snap of kick rather than the full roundhouse which gets power from the rotation of the hip and the snap.
muay thai roundhouse starts with a step of the supporting leg in a 45° towards the opponent, so u can use your whole bodyweight for the kick and the kick goes "through" the opponent and you are closer, so you can hit with your shin ...it is more like a TKD 'roundkick' instead of a TKD 'roundhousekick'
TKD roundhouse is spinning on the supporting leg and the power comes from rotating the hips and spinning the body instead of moving it towards the opponent
Nice power behind your kicks. seeing that the is virtually no snapping back to retrack your kicking leg, this style/technique is more "Muy Thai" like than JKD. In any case nice power and form behind you kick.
Whoa, there was so much emphasis on that technique I'm now a pro after watching this video. The kick is demonstrated and that's it. Doesn't explain anything into how the kick should be performed whatsoever.
WTF!? He talks about how mauy thai isnt JKD, then he shows a muay thai round kick on a clipp labeled "Jeet Kune Do techniques"!!!!! I wanted to see JKD techniques!!!!
yeah this is a muay thai round kick, jeet kun do realized that this is the most powerful round kick and thats what was used in the art of jeet kune do
ive learned that with the leg that you are standing on, while you kickin leg is in the air. is to make sure you heel makes a full 180 degree turn, so if your toe is facing something, that means the kick will end with the position your toe was pointing, kinda hard to explain but im sure youll get it
@dogfather105 A tip is wich worked for me: Imagine the leg you kick with to be a rubber leg. When turning the hip "through" and remember through your target the leg comes along. Also remember to pivot the foots heel that your not using towards your opponent.
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i love how jkd steals a technique from muy thai and then feeds people some bullshit line if you want to learn how to fight do muy thai i promise you its the best i've tried
That's the whole point of JKD. JKD, more than a martial art, is a philosophy. They believe that the best style is no style at all. It goes back to the whole "be like water" idea that Bruce Lee had (which I think is right).
They look at different martial arts, take the techniques that they think would work and get rid those they think won't.
But I agree, i've been doing muay thai for 3 years and it freaking kicks ass.
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crap theory!!!! Fighting has proven the jkd theory to be crap. Real fighters don't follow any of your jkd theories. The truth is shown in the ring. The ring shows that muay thai wins everytime. Stop training in water theory and train in the system that works.
This isn't jkd. Look up Ted Wong. He's Bruces student. He does it right. That's Mui Tai with some jkd principles thrown in. Note the stance. It's wrong.
So, if it's muay thai.... Then why add jkd? If you're teaching muay thai, call it muay thai, not muay thai for jkd. Sounds like jkd is banking off what muay thai has accomplished in the last 400 years.
If you see it like that boxsterwelby, then JKD basically 'banks off' almost every art you could name. JKD is a mixture of so many different styles and techniques, because the entire philosophy that it is based on is to, "Absorb what is useful, reject what is not." So, a Muay Thai technique works, therefore it is used in JKD. If a certain Kung Fu kick works, that will be used. Centreline punching works, so it is used. To limit yourself to one style is a weakness. JKD will use it if it works.
well said and I respect your opinion. I appreciate you talking about this and not just getting deffensive to protect your art. I think my issue is the mystical side of jkd where as muay thai also only uses what works and that experience comes from real fighting. I would never tell a real fighter what to do. Plus, no one kicks like thai boxers unless they are trained the right way. This is watered down muay thai and it's an insult to call it thai boxing.
Just like to mention that Muay Thai is my 1st art, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is my 2nd, and Jeet Kun Do and Escrima are my other styles. I prefer using Muay Thai myself.
The way I train JKD is very street practical. If you fail to do a block, you get hit. There is an emphasis on doing only what will work in a real situation, which means no more TKD, and more Savate + Muay Thai kicks.
I think the whole philosophy of JKD means it can vary from teacher to teacher.
cool. I'm just so tired of seeing people claim muay thai because it's the "in" art. Yet they fundamentally kick wrong. When I tell people they kick wrong they take it personal and want to fight me through the keyboard. Proper muay thai is difficult to do because your feet and calves have to be ultra strong just to learn how to kick correctly. When I first started I ran 4 miles a day and bounced on a tire for 30 minutes. Then I had to go back and relearn the kick to get rid of tkd technique
Yehr, I see what you're getting at. There is a low kick that is based on Muay Thai, and then there is a Muay Thai leg kick.
I think that it's that old saying about being the jack of all trades. JKD is like that, thought not to a point where it becomes ineffective. It's a bit like MMA. An MMAist will often be outdone by a pure Thai Boxer in stand up, just as a pure Wing Tsun fighter will outdo a JKD guy in that field. However, the JKD fighter has so many other weapons... TBC
...The JKD has so many other weapons they can beat the pure Wing Tsun artist. Just like an MMA may beat the Thai Boxer as they have other options like their ground game.
So this desn't make it ineffective, but you are never going to get perfection or anywhere near in a cross-training art.
I mean, look at the low guard on MMA fighters! It's outrageous! I sparred an MMA fighter once and the low hands were just SO easy to work around.
I would type more but this stupid word count is restrictive.
well said! I appreciate the argument very much. youtube is full of keyboard warriors that talk sooooo much trash without validation. I just hate to see people claim an art and then do it wrong. This isn't muay thai at all. I understand that jkd utilizes all arts but, this is not muay thai. If you claim mastery in a technique you should be good at the technique, right?
Yehr. It is a common leg kick really, to be pedantic. A true Muay Thai leg kick would be, like you say, far more advanced. I think it's one of these things where you could say it has been derived from Muay Thai, but it isn't Muay Thai in any pure way. The clinch for example, I've sparred people from JKD and used the clinch, and the difference is amazing. They can do it, but it isn't a REAL Muay Thai clinch, they lack the finer points and locks etc. Bits missed out, like you've been saying. :/
You can save yourself alot of heartache and try to understand the title correctly next time. It's Thai but modified for JKD. This man is a certified Muay Thai instructor from one of the most well known Thai instructors/fighters in the world.
Try not to get so worked up about it.
There's a reason why it doesn't look the way you think it should.
You hit the nail on the head there friend. Jeet Kune Do is above all a philosophy! One persons Jeet Kune Do will not be the same as another persons due to the fact that one particular practitioners abilities and preferences will be different then others. I am glad that you pointed that out! God bless...Peace
I can't help but feel a little disappointed in the video. They showed a few kicks but they didn't give any tips or helpful hints. Then again, what do I know?
I know of Dwight's reputation within the JKD family and he is no BS artist. As for angle, there are variations on the leg kick theme. Different Thai boxing coaches and camps will stress different variations on this leg kick. It all depends on where your opponent is and what you're trying to accomplish. My only criticism is that the demo is done from a regular kickboxing stance and not from the "kick stance" of Muay Thai. But I also understand why it was shown this way for this audience.
if you go straight across the kick slides up the thigh a tiny bit on impact which decreases the force whereas the downward cut kick penetrates straight to the bone (at least thats how it feels having been hit by both) on the other hand the straight across is harder to see/ a little faster because to go down you have to bring your leg up a bit first. of course were talking fractions of a second but if you're a fighter you know every moment counts
You understand Thai fine, but obviously you don't get Jeet kune do... They take techniques and make them their own, it's not meant to be the exact same move. It uses the Jeet kune do theory to make it more usable to the individual fighter!
Thanks magikshark, I take it that your proud to be a Thai Boxer and don't consider yourself a JKD expert whereas Sifu Woods here thinks he is a master of both, regardless of his B.S. about it being a training method, you don't train a method not to do it. Sifu Woods is a very confused man cramped and distirted by the classical mess no doubt.
"you don't train a method not to do it" Jeetkunejimi, I respectfully argue against your opinion stated above. In my opinion; based on what I have learned, observed, and experienced, martial arts training methods are more or less trained not to "do" in actuality, but to get the body and mind focused on a particular pattern of movement and thinking.
Exactly right: based on what YOU have learned, you are correct. But you haven't learned all there is to learn - once you move past training to create muscle memory and pattern, there is only intention and no pattern.
I don't think you necessarily need to chop down unless the leg you're trying to kick is not straight but at an angle. Some thai trainers will say that but there are scenarios when turning the hip over is enough. I'm also training muay thai and even though this person isn't kicking the way some people would want her to, she's way better than most people at your typical muay thai gym in the states.
Majikshark, there ARE kicks like what you're saying but this is modified into JKD terms. Think about it. This is liberated from the confinements of traditional Muay Thai. Don't let people like Jimi confuse you. He's lost in his own confused and false self righteousness. Between you and me I think he's a little jealous...but I wouldn't expect him to admit to that....
magikshark: you're not wrong, but you're not right either. There are lots of variations of the round kick, even within thai boxing. Just because you were taught one way doesn't mean it's the only way. People throw the kick differently according to the situation.
Thats girls looks hard as fuck
Tonicwine999 8 months ago
whats the difference between a muay thai roundhouse and say a karate or tkd roundhouse? just wondering
sammiedodgers 10 months ago
@sammiedodgers not much... a tkd round kick though is more of a linear kick with the power coming from only the snap of kick rather than the full roundhouse which gets power from the rotation of the hip and the snap.
joexxv 10 months ago
@sammiedodgers
muay thai roundhouse starts with a step of the supporting leg in a 45° towards the opponent, so u can use your whole bodyweight for the kick and the kick goes "through" the opponent and you are closer, so you can hit with your shin ...it is more like a TKD 'roundkick' instead of a TKD 'roundhousekick'
TKD roundhouse is spinning on the supporting leg and the power comes from rotating the hips and spinning the body instead of moving it towards the opponent
projectsunbeam 8 months ago 2
turn your hips over
MatticusJT 10 months ago
The woman isnt in her right stance, Bruce Lee always fought in his right stance.
mathewclarke96 11 months ago
@mathewclarke96 Even Lee changed stances if one side got tired or whatever.
xjxm 3 months ago
Nice power behind your kicks. seeing that the is virtually no snapping back to retrack your kicking leg, this style/technique is more "Muy Thai" like than JKD. In any case nice power and form behind you kick.
MASTERNCS 11 months ago
I like how he talks like he hates the letter G. "We're using the Thai boxin' trainin' method."
devourerofbabies 1 year ago
DID YOU SEE THAT, THAT WAS AMAZING,OH AND THE KICKS WEREN'T BAD EITHER.....WHAT CAN I SAY, I'M A BUTT MAN.
bigsexy8808 1 year ago
ITS A BROTHA HAHA
ufcdime 1 year ago
okay, that woman is POWERFUL...
ninjakick1983 1 year ago
all that talking..for the last 5 seconds
abaebae1 1 year ago
Is "Jet Kune Do" Better than " Kong Fu "????
Dos it give you a good health condition?
Would it like, give you a good fealing about your selve?
Would your concentration get better??
Would you be like more protected from gething sick?
Will they teach you howto like fall safely to the ground if somebbody DID take you down??
Would you be able to like, for example do splite, high air kicks and things like that?? Plzz answer this Question
810Maniek 1 year ago
thats a leg chop.... i got that from muay thai
gusto1978 1 year ago
Whoa, there was so much emphasis on that technique I'm now a pro after watching this video. The kick is demonstrated and that's it. Doesn't explain anything into how the kick should be performed whatsoever.
SleepingPeace 1 year ago
WTF!? He talks about how mauy thai isnt JKD, then he shows a muay thai round kick on a clipp labeled "Jeet Kune Do techniques"!!!!! I wanted to see JKD techniques!!!!
ztawiz 1 year ago
so this is basically a roundhouse kick right?Yes,im no pro in identifiying kicks
punktheman 2 years ago
yeah this is a muay thai round kick, jeet kun do realized that this is the most powerful round kick and thats what was used in the art of jeet kune do
6ftUnder92592 2 years ago
This kick is currently one that I struggle with as my pivot and hip execution is poor. Are there any drills that I can do to work on these two areas?
dogfather105 2 years ago
ive learned that with the leg that you are standing on, while you kickin leg is in the air. is to make sure you heel makes a full 180 degree turn, so if your toe is facing something, that means the kick will end with the position your toe was pointing, kinda hard to explain but im sure youll get it
6ftUnder92592 2 years ago
@dogfather105 A tip is wich worked for me: Imagine the leg you kick with to be a rubber leg. When turning the hip "through" and remember through your target the leg comes along. Also remember to pivot the foots heel that your not using towards your opponent.
Hope i helped.
//mmacritic
mmacritics 1 year ago
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This dude looks like the Rastaferian version of Crusty Clown from Simpsons. lol
tigershumon 2 years ago
Stackmo1, I love how you ridicule people's spelling of 'Muay Thai' when you fail to use capital letters yourself. :P
But yes, agreed, there are so many people that bullshit on here. Maybe because it makes them feel powerful, whereas in reality they aren't at all...
MattTheGiant 2 years ago
man that girls ass is majorly toned. i bet its like rubbing a balloon filled with water.
bowerybaker 3 years ago
im in love with that girl
chicanocalifas 3 years ago
Lots of you know little - the braying sounds of uncultures asses. Sifu Dwight is the shit.
cosmicdingo 3 years ago
Yes this is also true but its up to the individual to search for this experience, i agree with u knowlege in real situations is invaluable
evoarts26 3 years ago
she kicks to much with the foot the shin must hit the target
system0Fhonor 3 years ago
thats a muay thai leg kick!
pjmarlo 3 years ago
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i love how jkd steals a technique from muy thai and then feeds people some bullshit line if you want to learn how to fight do muy thai i promise you its the best i've tried
daynrk 3 years ago
That's the whole point of JKD. JKD, more than a martial art, is a philosophy. They believe that the best style is no style at all. It goes back to the whole "be like water" idea that Bruce Lee had (which I think is right).
They look at different martial arts, take the techniques that they think would work and get rid those they think won't.
But I agree, i've been doing muay thai for 3 years and it freaking kicks ass.
chillout010 3 years ago 8
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crap theory!!!! Fighting has proven the jkd theory to be crap. Real fighters don't follow any of your jkd theories. The truth is shown in the ring. The ring shows that muay thai wins everytime. Stop training in water theory and train in the system that works.
boxsterwelby 3 years ago
The ring has proven MMA to work. What the hell do you think Jeet Kun Do is anyways?
skipalitevandango 3 years ago
exactly jkd is mma any method that works Bruce taught to study all arts
evoarts26 3 years ago
quote: the mind is originally without activity;the way is always without thought.
evoarts26 3 years ago
This isn't jkd. Look up Ted Wong. He's Bruces student. He does it right. That's Mui Tai with some jkd principles thrown in. Note the stance. It's wrong.
DavidChristianFilms 3 years ago
that is a girl you noob man
tufivenine 3 years ago
maybe cause it´s a low kick. fool
Karl41Heinz 3 years ago 7
LOLLLL!!!
fight38club 3 years ago
@Karl41Heinz a lot of ppl don't know what a low round house kick lol
coldskin1 1 year ago
why did he hold the pad so low?
joel123494 3 years ago
So, if it's muay thai.... Then why add jkd? If you're teaching muay thai, call it muay thai, not muay thai for jkd. Sounds like jkd is banking off what muay thai has accomplished in the last 400 years.
boxsterwelby 3 years ago
If you see it like that boxsterwelby, then JKD basically 'banks off' almost every art you could name. JKD is a mixture of so many different styles and techniques, because the entire philosophy that it is based on is to, "Absorb what is useful, reject what is not." So, a Muay Thai technique works, therefore it is used in JKD. If a certain Kung Fu kick works, that will be used. Centreline punching works, so it is used. To limit yourself to one style is a weakness. JKD will use it if it works.
MattTheGiant 2 years ago
well said and I respect your opinion. I appreciate you talking about this and not just getting deffensive to protect your art. I think my issue is the mystical side of jkd where as muay thai also only uses what works and that experience comes from real fighting. I would never tell a real fighter what to do. Plus, no one kicks like thai boxers unless they are trained the right way. This is watered down muay thai and it's an insult to call it thai boxing.
boxsterwelby 2 years ago
Ty, and I respect your opinion also.
Just like to mention that Muay Thai is my 1st art, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is my 2nd, and Jeet Kun Do and Escrima are my other styles. I prefer using Muay Thai myself.
The way I train JKD is very street practical. If you fail to do a block, you get hit. There is an emphasis on doing only what will work in a real situation, which means no more TKD, and more Savate + Muay Thai kicks.
I think the whole philosophy of JKD means it can vary from teacher to teacher.
MattTheGiant 2 years ago
cool. I'm just so tired of seeing people claim muay thai because it's the "in" art. Yet they fundamentally kick wrong. When I tell people they kick wrong they take it personal and want to fight me through the keyboard. Proper muay thai is difficult to do because your feet and calves have to be ultra strong just to learn how to kick correctly. When I first started I ran 4 miles a day and bounced on a tire for 30 minutes. Then I had to go back and relearn the kick to get rid of tkd technique
boxsterwelby 2 years ago
Yehr, I see what you're getting at. There is a low kick that is based on Muay Thai, and then there is a Muay Thai leg kick.
I think that it's that old saying about being the jack of all trades. JKD is like that, thought not to a point where it becomes ineffective. It's a bit like MMA. An MMAist will often be outdone by a pure Thai Boxer in stand up, just as a pure Wing Tsun fighter will outdo a JKD guy in that field. However, the JKD fighter has so many other weapons... TBC
MattTheGiant 2 years ago
...The JKD has so many other weapons they can beat the pure Wing Tsun artist. Just like an MMA may beat the Thai Boxer as they have other options like their ground game.
So this desn't make it ineffective, but you are never going to get perfection or anywhere near in a cross-training art.
I mean, look at the low guard on MMA fighters! It's outrageous! I sparred an MMA fighter once and the low hands were just SO easy to work around.
I would type more but this stupid word count is restrictive.
MattTheGiant 2 years ago
well said! I appreciate the argument very much. youtube is full of keyboard warriors that talk sooooo much trash without validation. I just hate to see people claim an art and then do it wrong. This isn't muay thai at all. I understand that jkd utilizes all arts but, this is not muay thai. If you claim mastery in a technique you should be good at the technique, right?
boxsterwelby 2 years ago
Yehr. It is a common leg kick really, to be pedantic. A true Muay Thai leg kick would be, like you say, far more advanced. I think it's one of these things where you could say it has been derived from Muay Thai, but it isn't Muay Thai in any pure way. The clinch for example, I've sparred people from JKD and used the clinch, and the difference is amazing. They can do it, but it isn't a REAL Muay Thai clinch, they lack the finer points and locks etc. Bits missed out, like you've been saying. :/
MattTheGiant 2 years ago
Hey boxterwelby
You can save yourself alot of heartache and try to understand the title correctly next time. It's Thai but modified for JKD. This man is a certified Muay Thai instructor from one of the most well known Thai instructors/fighters in the world.
Try not to get so worked up about it.
There's a reason why it doesn't look the way you think it should.
Cheers
JKDLIFER 2 years ago
You hit the nail on the head there friend. Jeet Kune Do is above all a philosophy! One persons Jeet Kune Do will not be the same as another persons due to the fact that one particular practitioners abilities and preferences will be different then others. I am glad that you pointed that out! God bless...Peace
pistol975 2 years ago
Lol what a soft kick ...that must be a girrrrl!
RuudvanGOLL 3 years ago
I can't help but feel a little disappointed in the video. They showed a few kicks but they didn't give any tips or helpful hints. Then again, what do I know?
BestatwhatIdo 3 years ago
I know of Dwight's reputation within the JKD family and he is no BS artist. As for angle, there are variations on the leg kick theme. Different Thai boxing coaches and camps will stress different variations on this leg kick. It all depends on where your opponent is and what you're trying to accomplish. My only criticism is that the demo is done from a regular kickboxing stance and not from the "kick stance" of Muay Thai. But I also understand why it was shown this way for this audience.
renoboy666 3 years ago
thats just how they translate it into the jeet kun do. and a question what benefit does the actual downward motion of the actual muay thai kick add?
kinetik1989 3 years ago
if you go straight across the kick slides up the thigh a tiny bit on impact which decreases the force whereas the downward cut kick penetrates straight to the bone (at least thats how it feels having been hit by both) on the other hand the straight across is harder to see/ a little faster because to go down you have to bring your leg up a bit first. of course were talking fractions of a second but if you're a fighter you know every moment counts
rusty73581 3 years ago
lol!!
MercyKia 3 years ago
Looks like Booker T from TNA .__.
showdown456 3 years ago 2
im a thai boxer and she should be kicking in a downward motion.not accross
magikshark 3 years ago
You understand Thai fine, but obviously you don't get Jeet kune do... They take techniques and make them their own, it's not meant to be the exact same move. It uses the Jeet kune do theory to make it more usable to the individual fighter!
Prestige29 3 years ago 3
Thanks magikshark, I take it that your proud to be a Thai Boxer and don't consider yourself a JKD expert whereas Sifu Woods here thinks he is a master of both, regardless of his B.S. about it being a training method, you don't train a method not to do it. Sifu Woods is a very confused man cramped and distirted by the classical mess no doubt.
jeetkunejimi 3 years ago
"you don't train a method not to do it" Jeetkunejimi, I respectfully argue against your opinion stated above. In my opinion; based on what I have learned, observed, and experienced, martial arts training methods are more or less trained not to "do" in actuality, but to get the body and mind focused on a particular pattern of movement and thinking.
jfuya2000 2 years ago
Exactly right: based on what YOU have learned, you are correct. But you haven't learned all there is to learn - once you move past training to create muscle memory and pattern, there is only intention and no pattern.
superbadlucre 2 years ago
I don't think you necessarily need to chop down unless the leg you're trying to kick is not straight but at an angle. Some thai trainers will say that but there are scenarios when turning the hip over is enough. I'm also training muay thai and even though this person isn't kicking the way some people would want her to, she's way better than most people at your typical muay thai gym in the states.
enigma562 3 years ago
Majikshark, there ARE kicks like what you're saying but this is modified into JKD terms. Think about it. This is liberated from the confinements of traditional Muay Thai. Don't let people like Jimi confuse you. He's lost in his own confused and false self righteousness. Between you and me I think he's a little jealous...but I wouldn't expect him to admit to that....
JKDLIFER 3 years ago
magikshark: you're not wrong, but you're not right either. There are lots of variations of the round kick, even within thai boxing. Just because you were taught one way doesn't mean it's the only way. People throw the kick differently according to the situation.
devourerofbabies 3 years ago
first comment. good video.
WildbananasTJ 3 years ago