When I see so many ppl arguing about who's a better drummer than... let's say idk... Portnoy or Priester, or whoever. I come here, sit down, have a mental rythmical wank with that @ 1:09 fill and the following verse beat, and I seriously don't give a FLYING F*** about Mr good drummer or any other block at all. This guy is BONKERS!
i'm glad he didn't join DT cos his playing suits the complicated style of Spastic Ink, Blotted Science (Ron's band) and the speed/power metal Riot.. FANTASTIC!!
I would have layed down the drum tracks of the entire Dream Theater discography to perfection 50 times over before sooner than I'd nail this track or Multi Masking... Bobby is insane.
I've probably watched this video more than any other video on youtube. As a guitarist, Ron's parts, while insane, actually make sense to me. This drumming, on the other hand, is so far beyond insane that I can't even fathom being able to play it. Bobby + Ron = most talented brother duo of all time.
alot of talk about what music is about. like all art it is open to individual interpretation. in my interpretation, portnoy couldn't be a tech for jarzombek. did i ruin the music for anyone? then stop reading and pay attention to the drummer...
why do people feel it is so important to compare this guy to portnoy. They're both awesome but also have distinct differences so let's leave it at that
And your point is? Guess what, Budweiser outsells Dogfish Head by about a million to one too, but which one is the better beer? They also sell more Chevy's the Ferrari's, Britney Spears sells more records than King's X and Rush isn't in the RR HOF..see where I'm going with this Mr. Popular?
@jossy2112 So you are saying "but which one is the better beer", meaning who is the better drummer despite the popularity right. My question to u is WHEN the hell did i mention who's better than who as a drummer???
My point was that he should more recognized In the drummerworld.
He has got to be one of the best drummers I have ever seen. I saw this clip some years ago and I'm am still amazed. But what makes him great is he can play anything.
if i have 1/100th of the talent this dude... and most prog drummers have... i would be a better drummer than 99 percent of drummers in the shitty bands people ball music today.
@powerbass12 i wouldnt say that in that way. you can say they are both good IN THEIR STYLE. IMHO you cant compare bobby und mike. themselfes alone play totaly different styles and compared to the bands they play in (or played cause mike is not with DT anymore) bobby plays math and portnoy progressive. and although these genres are related to each other their are totaly different.
Umm how come people keep saying Bobby Jarzombek is only good at technical playing? The man is THE go to metal session drummer and throughout his career has proven that he can play whatever is thrown at him wether its inhuman technical playing or simple straight foward stuff. Hes as versatile as any drummer mentioned so far.
Well, I'd say Bobby's stuff is definitely more difficult to play than Mike's, but Bobby probably did draw a lot of influence from the super-technical style that Mike started. I could live with him replacing Portnoy.
@ACDCBoy62 Dude, Bobby's first album w/ Juggernaut came out in 1986 - way before anybody even knew who Portnoy was. Dream Theater was barely a band then. Bobby is influenced by Neil Peart, Simon Philips, Terry Bozzio, Bill Bruford a.o. but certainly not by Mike Portnoy. And Portnoy didn't start anything - least of all 'super technical' drumming.
I think bobby is deffinetly better at physically playing the drums...but other then that its all about opinion people, so if you want mike to be better then he is! even if he did leave DT
Marco Mike n Bobby r all top skilled drummers dudes if your a drummer u would understand there all creative unique talented dynamic drummers no sense in bitching whos better or worse MP has some serious chops 2 they all bring something 2 the table as far as technique goes
@abhimuscat No soul? Dude, I know portnoys good but if u want to go there he aint shit compared to this guy. This guy is technically superior in every way and is more creative, dynamic, unique and distinctive... no question about the fact MP dont own THIS level of ability! :)
@rodilla15 gotta admit, i didnt know about bobby, but i do now!!! i hate rating drummers, thats just not what music is about. but i'll tell you, i've seen thomas lange and mike mangini live, and they both blew me away! that being said, it's really abit much. it's like when yngwie yawned after playing eruption, sure he's got more technique than ed, but right a song for fuck sakes. just my opinion.
@powerbass12 dude dont underestimate portnoy, he can come up with a heck lot of weird timings, heard dance of eternity? metropolis? those things have lots of polys and odd meters and is yet enjoyable to listen to, not dissing bobby here, he may be a great player but I feel he lacks soul when playing, soul is something people like Gavin Harrison, portnoy, carey, peart etc have
Hell, the entire clip has me going O.o lol. And I'm someone who can typically figure out what a drummer is doing - even if I can't pull it off myself. Most of Jarzombek's stuff (at least with Spastic Ink) eludes me completely. I actually have another one of his clips from this same "session" on my youtube channel... and it's equally mind-boggling to me.
I agree. I think Portnoy has the creativity to come up with some great parts, and still does from time to time. It just seems that he - and all of Dream Theater, really - are almost going through the motions these days. Their music - despite being progressive - has become really predictable and actually boring. It's been a long time since I've heard them write something epic that kicked my ass technically *and* musically on a level even close to what their earlier work did.
I don't think the drummers themselves ever get involved in arguments about who is best, so why the fuck do the fans do it? Less time talking about stupid shit, more time drumming.
@mailmepizza Why the fans do it? Because they ARE fans! We judge everything around us every day - otherwise we could not survive. It's the basic requirement of life to be able to judge what is better and what is worse; otherwise life would become extinct, so its not stupid shit like you say. For Bobby, it must be pretty lonely at the top.
There's very few drummers who could play this at this level for Spastic Ink songs. Virgil Donati, Marco Minneman, Mike Mangini are there. Charley Zeleny has proven himself w/ Blotted Science. Gavin Harrison does some great complex stuff, but this type of prog-metal might not be his style. Peart and Portnoy would need a few years of lessons and woodshedding to handle the Spastic Ink parts that Bobby plays.
Stop comparing, people. Everyone drums differently. Since when is it a fucking competition? Mike's good at what he does and Bobby is too. I'm telling you, it's the fans which tarnish good players' names, Why can't people just sit back and enjoy? SHEESH
He's a very special drummer;his rhythm is phenomenal and so many drummer's forget that is their job especially in the jazz realm,sorry drums are rhythm not lead instrument's but you can kick ass solo on them like Bobby is showing here.
his setups always look uncomfortable...maybe he's just so good that he has to set stuff up that way so he doesn't tear a hole in the cosmos? ha...i love that little splash in the middle...
@ Anonymous: Hellhammer was my favourite drummer, i tought he was inimitable, this way of playing fast.. frenetical blasts and drumming.. and especialy on speed he was out of touch.
After i discovred this awesome player Bobby who plays a music which is really more complex than the style hellhammer's playing.. you know black metal.... Bobby's playing is very agressive and very smoothy at the same time, and really impossible to imitate.
@JeremyMicahSimon Helhammer and Asgeir are both Norwegian. Hellhammer is mostly a black metal drummer and nowhere near as technically proficient as Bobby Jarzombek. Asgeir is best known for his work with Spiral Architect, a prog/tech metal band with one album out. Excellent drummer but not in Jarzombek's league.
But what I saw about this drummer that his drumming position is extremely non-ergonomic.. He'll end up to neck surgery in some year :o He should play the back straight, not like that... It's unhealthy!
But anyway, I know this guy's a maniac in drums, but I can't compare him to my fav drummers like Hellhammer and Asgeir Mickelson, because they all got their unique style of playing. This guy's great, but his position on drumplaying creeps me here :(
lol at all this portnoy debate. portnoys my personal fave but bobby is a mile a head of portnoy in terms of technical ability. But portnoy is more than just the drummer he writes lyrics, focuses on the other musicians in DT and is the best at his thing.
Portnoy's lyrics skills are not anywhere near to his skills in drumming. Sorry but he should stick to what he does best. Writing lyrics should be left to professionals. I like his drumming but just like COBHC279 says, others are even better - and I agree.
What's sad is that most people have to have their respective "favorite drummer" as "the best drummer" in the world or it just doesn't fulfill their need.
I LOVE Mike Portnoy but couldn't agree with you more. Bobby is heads and shoulders above most of the pack, but that isn't the point as you know.
Drumming isn't a sport. Music itself is about taste, not right or wrong.
Portnoy is a rock genius regardless of whether or not someone might be more skilled.
Comparing Portnoy with Jarzombek is quite hard. Bobby is EXREMEL technical while Mike probably has more of a wide talent and can play basically everything he wants to.
hard to say who's "best" but as far as I can see Bobby can play more complex stuff. Wether that's the definition of a good drummer I'll leave to each individual as it's a matter of taste.
I was a devout fan of Mike Portnoy, until I found about this dude. This dude totally pwns Portnoy. On a level "Way too technical to be commercially viable." Read into it..... That's why he can only put out DVDs demonstrating his technique. (ie: "School")
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Ok but when you look at overall, Mike wins here. And I'm pretty sure he can pull off such complex stuff. But yeah, what Bobby is doing here is quite amazing!
Not *THAT* far, if by any. It really depends on whose taste you like the most. The truth is that they're both truly expansive on their own level. Jarzombek eats dudes like Portnoy for breakfast on technique and posture. Portnoy, on the other hand, wins at "self control" and the ability to shift focus to other instruments; thus "musicality". Nevertheless, in a drum solo match, (cont...)
I'd yell as loud as I can at Jarzombek, because he'd likely play everything significant that Portnoy could do at first listen and then *ADD* shit to it to give it that *personalized* touch. Portnoy would end up putting his sticks down and claiming, "He copied me."
Y do u think that Dream Theater are not musicians? I guess both are unique in their own way. Comparing DT with Spasitc Ink is tht DT are more melodic than Spastic Ink. While both have great techniques.
Stop debating, if you dont like this music don't listen. It's just a different style. just like alot of people think rap has no creativity (like me) but i'm not gonna argue it. It's just opinion.
All music is different. I like both bands, and I hope they stay the way they are. Just because you like one band better or even if one band is better, why the hell do you think anyones going to change the way they play they're music?
What's up? I haven't heard anything Bobby's done except the Halford stuff, I need to check some songs out, He was in a band called Riot, yes? and Spastic Ink..
Bobby is back with Riot now. He is also with Fates Warning and Sebastian Bach. He did 2 albums with Spastic Ink - the song in this video is from the 2nd Ink album. The stuff with Ink is by far his most technical drumming. Other than that his best drumming is on Riot's 'The Privilege of Power'. 2 other great releases with Bobby are Riot - 'Thundersteel' and Rob Rock - 'Holy Hell' (w/ Roy Z from Halford on guitar). If you are a Halford/Priest fan both those should be right up your alley.
1:14 to 1:50 seriously, this bit of the song gives me an erection. What a groove and what a riff. It's proggy it sounds thrash it sounds funky, damn it))
Then you got to deal with those rfboys who say MPortnoy is the best prog drummer xDDDD
Yee, and this guy chops his extremities off meanwhile XDDD
I actually take lessons from Ron (Jarzombek), and the solo from this song is one he had me learn from practice. It's pretty cool that ive got a guitar teacher that actually played with a buncho people, cuz i know some people who get taught out of a book. So it's pretty kool.
To me, this and Blotted Science is possibly the best music I've ever heard. Or at least it captures my attention the most. Spastic Ink (especially Ink Complete) and Blotted Science both display such a beautiful complex madness, while still somehow sounding super badass. Takes me like 10 listens of a song before I start to fully appreciate it, and to me, that equals f@$#ing good music! I will never understand why people can hate this music, but hey that's just me.
because 95% of people are normal. lol, I don't get the eliticism people have over such technical music. And don't get me wrong, I love Spastic Ink and I find them very accesible to my taste, but just saying, the average person has a good excuse for not liking it. They have "better" things to worry about :P
also, yeah a lot of prog people are elitists. I love prog, but i can understand people who don't. Its just a choice people make between music that's better listened to actively or passively. its called music THEORY for a reason. they aren't rules for making good music, they are guidelines for making music that sounds good to an ear that's been raised in the environment that that music comes from. for example, Indian music theory is completely different from ours.
Bobby is clearly a maticulous technician but I hate this music. It is cerebral but dead. I wish he'd play straight time to see how that sounds. I'd bet it might sound odd. Bobby is still a killer player.
He plays it straight with plenty of other bands. It would be a crime if someone this talented decided to be Phil Rudd instead of doing something like Spastic Ink.
When I see so many ppl arguing about who's a better drummer than... let's say idk... Portnoy or Priester, or whoever. I come here, sit down, have a mental rythmical wank with that @ 1:09 fill and the following verse beat, and I seriously don't give a FLYING F*** about Mr good drummer or any other block at all. This guy is BONKERS!
iVanHalen666 1 month ago
He reminds me of the singer from ELO here.
lupine73 1 month ago
He is a monster!!!
rondepok 1 month ago
i'm glad he didn't join DT cos his playing suits the complicated style of Spastic Ink, Blotted Science (Ron's band) and the speed/power metal Riot.. FANTASTIC!!
j35734r5 3 months ago
0:06 an unknown knight drew his sword
Bodomism 3 months ago
I would have layed down the drum tracks of the entire Dream Theater discography to perfection 50 times over before sooner than I'd nail this track or Multi Masking... Bobby is insane.
DogBoots77 4 months ago
@DogBoots77 Me too, and I'm not even a drummer...
senna01 4 months ago
8 people are fucking stupid
sergioarochadrums 5 months ago
back problems dude...
sebaswildboy 5 months ago
I've probably watched this video more than any other video on youtube. As a guitarist, Ron's parts, while insane, actually make sense to me. This drumming, on the other hand, is so far beyond insane that I can't even fathom being able to play it. Bobby + Ron = most talented brother duo of all time.
crimsonaltruist 6 months ago
impressive :O
lordmiklaus 6 months ago
I doubt that they're actually recording anything here - there are no overhead mics nor any mics on the toms...
TheAbsorbant 6 months ago
Ha, your my friends uncle!
tiwtse 7 months ago
It's pretty rare that you find two brothers who are both this skilled at their instruments.
I can say without a doubt in my mind that these guys are two of the best in the world.
chiborib0 7 months ago
wo wo wo wo wo wo wo ... theres a bobby jarzombek? - related to ron i assume.
wat is it with crazy ass names meaning ur good at music? lol
oh and BEAST OF A DRUMMER .. just sayin very impressed.
ZachMetalAsFuck 8 months ago
alot of talk about what music is about. like all art it is open to individual interpretation. in my interpretation, portnoy couldn't be a tech for jarzombek. did i ruin the music for anyone? then stop reading and pay attention to the drummer...
PlebeianComplex 8 months ago
the way he sits looks a bit unhealthy o.0 looks like hes bending his back but maybe thats just the camera perspective :D
fuerchter 9 months ago
@fuerchter I would gladly sacrifice my back to play like that :D
PCGamerPortal 8 months ago
Insane rythm patterns, awesome technique! Great work!
GeorgiosZaimis 10 months ago
why do people feel it is so important to compare this guy to portnoy. They're both awesome but also have distinct differences so let's leave it at that
NJmetal94 10 months ago
brutal drumkit.
MrLA7X 10 months ago
this oddly reminds me a bit of frank zappa
abhimuscat 11 months ago
@badboyofrock ..absolutely nothing is right
powerbass11 11 months ago
@powerbass12 Portnoy has nothing on this guy
BadBoyofRock 1 year ago
@BadBoyofRock this guy fucks portnoy in the ass!
sergioarochadrums 5 months ago
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powerbass11 1 year ago
@powerbass12 Looks like your are missing his performance in the Images & Words album...
StevieArt 1 year ago
Ok ...this is what I don't get.
Bobby never played in Watchtower
Bobby doesn't play in Blotted Science
Bobby is not famous, or doesn't play in 10 or more well known bands or projects.
Well known bands he plays/played in were only: Iced Earth, Halford, Sebastian Bach, and now fates warning.
jossy2112 1 year ago
@jossy2112
And your point is? Guess what, Budweiser outsells Dogfish Head by about a million to one too, but which one is the better beer? They also sell more Chevy's the Ferrari's, Britney Spears sells more records than King's X and Rush isn't in the RR HOF..see where I'm going with this Mr. Popular?
68nevets68 1 year ago
@jossy2112 So you are saying "but which one is the better beer", meaning who is the better drummer despite the popularity right. My question to u is WHEN the hell did i mention who's better than who as a drummer???
My point was that he should more recognized In the drummerworld.
Mr not wanting to be popular just to be cool!
jossy2112 1 year ago
Bobby For Dream Theater
bitchobi 1 year ago 3
@bitchobi Damn straight dude...
Guitfiddlejase 1 year ago
He has got to be one of the best drummers I have ever seen. I saw this clip some years ago and I'm am still amazed. But what makes him great is he can play anything.
Madbass64 1 year ago
Why is it all videos of this god playing include comments refering to Mike Portnoy? If anything, Mike's this guy's bitch..
xxxPinkyGSterxxx 1 year ago
this guy's so good is almost disturbing...
eduvanhalen 1 year ago 2
dis guys a god!!!
logarchopeth 1 year ago
bobby for dream theater!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ozzzmosis999 1 year ago
Bobby Jarzombek for A7X!!!
irwin3036able 1 year ago 3
@irwin3036able Hell yeah, and portnoy goes back to DT!
davsster 1 year ago
if i have 1/100th of the talent this dude... and most prog drummers have... i would be a better drummer than 99 percent of drummers in the shitty bands people ball music today.
greenwake69 1 year ago
blake richardson can make a drum track thats just as good as this...
greenwake69 1 year ago
@greenwake69 this guy is killer. so is gavin harrison and thomas laange.
sparkles67 1 year ago
its so clearly executed. I realize that the comment sounds dumb.
DougDiug 1 year ago
They sould let the Fans decide who will be the next Drummer in DT. I think we have our MAN
legatoshred 1 year ago 12
@legatoshred they could never keep up with him. It's hard to keep up with someone like him, even for DT guys. Damn, he is good!
micanut48 2 weeks ago
@powerbass12 i wouldnt say that in that way. you can say they are both good IN THEIR STYLE. IMHO you cant compare bobby und mike. themselfes alone play totaly different styles and compared to the bands they play in (or played cause mike is not with DT anymore) bobby plays math and portnoy progressive. and although these genres are related to each other their are totaly different.
Jehendos 1 year ago
it'd be great if, now that portnoy has left, he came to DT as the new drummer
zerototalchaos 1 year ago
Umm how come people keep saying Bobby Jarzombek is only good at technical playing? The man is THE go to metal session drummer and throughout his career has proven that he can play whatever is thrown at him wether its inhuman technical playing or simple straight foward stuff. Hes as versatile as any drummer mentioned so far.
nickcerantonio 1 year ago
Well, I'd say Bobby's stuff is definitely more difficult to play than Mike's, but Bobby probably did draw a lot of influence from the super-technical style that Mike started. I could live with him replacing Portnoy.
ACDCBoy62 1 year ago
@ACDCBoy62 Dude, Bobby's first album w/ Juggernaut came out in 1986 - way before anybody even knew who Portnoy was. Dream Theater was barely a band then. Bobby is influenced by Neil Peart, Simon Philips, Terry Bozzio, Bill Bruford a.o. but certainly not by Mike Portnoy. And Portnoy didn't start anything - least of all 'super technical' drumming.
HalalKafir 1 year ago
I think bobby is deffinetly better at physically playing the drums...but other then that its all about opinion people, so if you want mike to be better then he is! even if he did leave DT
69stringibanez 1 year ago
when you get to this level of proficiency, "good" or "bad" is strictly a matter of taste/preference.
you cant say one guy is better than the next.
bradkunt 1 year ago 10
Marco Mike n Bobby r all top skilled drummers dudes if your a drummer u would understand there all creative unique talented dynamic drummers no sense in bitching whos better or worse MP has some serious chops 2 they all bring something 2 the table as far as technique goes
Lobones0066 1 year ago
@pooperscooper Minnemann is just as good..agreed but i think its a different style..it gets real subjective at this level
powerbass11 1 year ago
In this style...I prefer Marco Minnemann. He's far cleaner and far more musical.
pooperscoopr69 1 year ago
@abhimuscat No soul? Dude, I know portnoys good but if u want to go there he aint shit compared to this guy. This guy is technically superior in every way and is more creative, dynamic, unique and distinctive... no question about the fact MP dont own THIS level of ability! :)
powerbass11 1 year ago
To the pointless discussion below: Being famous doesn't mean you are good. Au Contraire; most famous musicians suck, want proof? turn on your TV.
0x7e1 1 year ago 2
@rodilla15 gotta admit, i didnt know about bobby, but i do now!!! i hate rating drummers, thats just not what music is about. but i'll tell you, i've seen thomas lange and mike mangini live, and they both blew me away! that being said, it's really abit much. it's like when yngwie yawned after playing eruption, sure he's got more technique than ed, but right a song for fuck sakes. just my opinion.
sparkles67 1 year ago
@powerbass12 dude dont underestimate portnoy, he can come up with a heck lot of weird timings, heard dance of eternity? metropolis? those things have lots of polys and odd meters and is yet enjoyable to listen to, not dissing bobby here, he may be a great player but I feel he lacks soul when playing, soul is something people like Gavin Harrison, portnoy, carey, peart etc have
abhimuscat 1 year ago
Bobby is one damn good drummer, but to be honest I think it's just overdone.
He's probably better than Mike Portnoy, but Mike can hold back if nescesary.
I'm gonna get some youtubers on my back for showing my opinion.
m0tionlessskull 1 year ago
Can yall just talk about bobby?
Glenn666 1 year ago
@powerbass12
Hell, the entire clip has me going O.o lol. And I'm someone who can typically figure out what a drummer is doing - even if I can't pull it off myself. Most of Jarzombek's stuff (at least with Spastic Ink) eludes me completely. I actually have another one of his clips from this same "session" on my youtube channel... and it's equally mind-boggling to me.
lupine73 1 year ago
@powerbass12
I agree. I think Portnoy has the creativity to come up with some great parts, and still does from time to time. It just seems that he - and all of Dream Theater, really - are almost going through the motions these days. Their music - despite being progressive - has become really predictable and actually boring. It's been a long time since I've heard them write something epic that kicked my ass technically *and* musically on a level even close to what their earlier work did.
lupine73 1 year ago
Favorite part of nearly all time: 2:02 to 2.05. Awesome.
Drumspiracy 1 year ago
fire and fury signify very little
davey4557 1 year ago
he is a drumming god! Peart ain't got shit on him!
Crazen2 1 year ago
The drumming levels:
Ulrich =========> Portnoy =====> Jarzombek
amjan 1 year ago 3
LOVE IT
bonuzround 1 year ago
I don't think the drummers themselves ever get involved in arguments about who is best, so why the fuck do the fans do it? Less time talking about stupid shit, more time drumming.
mailmepizza 1 year ago 41
@mailmepizza right on.
ojpdrummer 1 year ago
@mailmepizza I agree. Less time talking about stupid shit, more time drumming. And more oddtime drumming!
sikkis 1 year ago 2
@mailmepizza Brilliant comment, couldn´t agree more...
nengstro 1 year ago
@mailmepizza Why the fans do it? Because they ARE fans! We judge everything around us every day - otherwise we could not survive. It's the basic requirement of life to be able to judge what is better and what is worse; otherwise life would become extinct, so its not stupid shit like you say. For Bobby, it must be pretty lonely at the top.
micanut48 9 months ago
There's very few drummers who could play this at this level for Spastic Ink songs. Virgil Donati, Marco Minneman, Mike Mangini are there. Charley Zeleny has proven himself w/ Blotted Science. Gavin Harrison does some great complex stuff, but this type of prog-metal might not be his style. Peart and Portnoy would need a few years of lessons and woodshedding to handle the Spastic Ink parts that Bobby plays.
cheezruff 1 year ago 4
@cheezruff Couldn't agree more.
Steve128967 1 year ago
Stop comparing, people. Everyone drums differently. Since when is it a fucking competition? Mike's good at what he does and Bobby is too. I'm telling you, it's the fans which tarnish good players' names, Why can't people just sit back and enjoy? SHEESH
Lydianshadow 1 year ago 3
He's a very special drummer;his rhythm is phenomenal and so many drummer's forget that is their job especially in the jazz realm,sorry drums are rhythm not lead instrument's but you can kick ass solo on them like Bobby is showing here.
blitzspeer 1 year ago
his setups always look uncomfortable...maybe he's just so good that he has to set stuff up that way so he doesn't tear a hole in the cosmos? ha...i love that little splash in the middle...
ElGrapadora 1 year ago
Dimebag and Vinnie or Eddie and Alex of progressive\technical metal
PanterAmetal100 1 year ago
Vinnie and Alex wish that were true.
ScreamxBloodyxGore 1 year ago
He was sent here by aliens to advance the human race
BiorythmicDrifter 1 year ago 5
Oh, thats why, incredible!!!!
tenochcasiempre 1 year ago
Does anyone know where I can find these drum tabs?
sebz661 1 year ago
Just use your eyes, ears and patience. That's the best way to do. Goodluck!
PanterAmetal100 1 year ago
@PanterAmetal100 Do you think you could
lean this song by ear? lol
Pantera rules!
sebz661 1 year ago
@sebz661 I don't think anyone can break it down enough to transcribe it.
SuperMardiGrasBros 2 months ago
@SuperMardiGrasBros Yeah thats true.
sebz661 2 months ago
@ Anonymous: Hellhammer was my favourite drummer, i tought he was inimitable, this way of playing fast.. frenetical blasts and drumming.. and especialy on speed he was out of touch.
After i discovred this awesome player Bobby who plays a music which is really more complex than the style hellhammer's playing.. you know black metal.... Bobby's playing is very agressive and very smoothy at the same time, and really impossible to imitate.
spipiaoudjajikoh 2 years ago
@Anonymous, am i the only one who's never heard of Hellhammer and Asgeir Mickelson?lol
JeremyMicahSimon 2 years ago
@JeremyMicahSimon Helhammer and Asgeir are both Norwegian. Hellhammer is mostly a black metal drummer and nowhere near as technically proficient as Bobby Jarzombek. Asgeir is best known for his work with Spiral Architect, a prog/tech metal band with one album out. Excellent drummer but not in Jarzombek's league.
SabuPtolemy 2 years ago
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extremesoul666 1 year ago
This is beyond comprehension.
JpPainkiller 2 years ago
hardest song ever to play on drums.. lol person A : "have you heard a new jarzombek song that has an intro like trenenuzizuzezeizezneizeziezien.."
person B : "whatta f*** r u saying man.."
bayulebih 2 years ago 2
look at him hunched over playing like that. He looks like a mad scientist! hhaah
shanebieda 2 years ago 5
Sry, I pressed "post comment" accidentally...
But what I saw about this drummer that his drumming position is extremely non-ergonomic.. He'll end up to neck surgery in some year :o He should play the back straight, not like that... It's unhealthy!
But anyway, I know this guy's a maniac in drums, but I can't compare him to my fav drummers like Hellhammer and Asgeir Mickelson, because they all got their unique style of playing. This guy's great, but his position on drumplaying creeps me here :(
Anonyomus 2 years ago
I know this guy from Spastic Ink and this man has really inhuman rhytm knowledge. I can't compare this guy to many drummers
Anonyomus 2 years ago
lol at all this portnoy debate. portnoys my personal fave but bobby is a mile a head of portnoy in terms of technical ability. But portnoy is more than just the drummer he writes lyrics, focuses on the other musicians in DT and is the best at his thing.
SystematicChaos08 2 years ago 3
Portnoy's lyrics skills are not anywhere near to his skills in drumming. Sorry but he should stick to what he does best. Writing lyrics should be left to professionals. I like his drumming but just like COBHC279 says, others are even better - and I agree.
micanut48 2 years ago
What's sad is that most people have to have their respective "favorite drummer" as "the best drummer" in the world or it just doesn't fulfill their need.
I LOVE Mike Portnoy but couldn't agree with you more. Bobby is heads and shoulders above most of the pack, but that isn't the point as you know.
Drumming isn't a sport. Music itself is about taste, not right or wrong.
Portnoy is a rock genius regardless of whether or not someone might be more skilled.
Bobby is the balls though, is he not, lol.
MuscleBound46 2 years ago 3
Awsome!
Period...
joe102769 2 years ago
Gavin Harrison can do all this, Bobby and Gavin are the best Prog Rock drummers ever!
COBHC279 2 years ago 4
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Gavin Harrison can play this backwards by ear. ;)
SigDrums 2 years ago
Jarzombek is better than portnoy in every way shape and form.... No one compares to Virgil Donati though.
TranslucentPlenum 2 years ago
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Hellhammer is best in my opinion
metalkid777 2 years ago
he just plays really fast man.,.. It's all about independence with drums man.
TranslucentPlenum 2 years ago
No, he's not just a speed guy. Apparently you haven't heard bands besides Mayhem that he's in, like Arcturus and Winds. He's very versatile.
metalkid777 2 years ago
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Skill - Jarzombek
Creativity - Portnoy
Influence - Portnoy
Originality - Portnoy
Versatility - Portnoy
Innovation - Portnoy
Portnoy is indeed the greater drummer, but skillwise Jarzomebek is ridiculously talented.
stache1010 2 years ago
but Portnoy's nothing compared to drummers like Gavin Harrison, Bobby Jarzombek, Charlie Zeleny, Virgil Donati, etc!
COBHC279 2 years ago 3
I only dream of writing stuff this intense
Rdub666 2 years ago
My favorite drummer out there.. This guy is retarded.
And these youtube arguments are even more retarded. Who fucking cares who played what. Music is music, not a competition, so give it a rest.
Nargaroth 2 years ago
one of my fovarites to he is insane
fistfull0fd0llars 2 years ago
Comparing Portnoy with Jarzombek is quite hard. Bobby is EXREMEL technical while Mike probably has more of a wide talent and can play basically everything he wants to.
hard to say who's "best" but as far as I can see Bobby can play more complex stuff. Wether that's the definition of a good drummer I'll leave to each individual as it's a matter of taste.
Would be fun to se Aquanet in Rock Band though :P
Lidodido 2 years ago 3
I was a devout fan of Mike Portnoy, until I found about this dude. This dude totally pwns Portnoy. On a level "Way too technical to be commercially viable." Read into it..... That's why he can only put out DVDs demonstrating his technique. (ie: "School")
Acosmicist 2 years ago 4
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bobby = god , mike = beyond god (he's too fucking good to be compared to anyone)
Fuki385 2 years ago
technically bobby owns mike. what bobby plays is much sicker.
LHondrums 2 years ago 3
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Ok but when you look at overall, Mike wins here. And I'm pretty sure he can pull off such complex stuff. But yeah, what Bobby is doing here is quite amazing!
Fuki385 2 years ago
mike portnoy? hahaha dont fuck.. are you stupid or only crazy
supersaiayin666 2 years ago
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Still, Mike Portnoy wins by far point.
Fuki385 2 years ago
Not *THAT* far, if by any. It really depends on whose taste you like the most. The truth is that they're both truly expansive on their own level. Jarzombek eats dudes like Portnoy for breakfast on technique and posture. Portnoy, on the other hand, wins at "self control" and the ability to shift focus to other instruments; thus "musicality". Nevertheless, in a drum solo match, (cont...)
Acosmicist 2 years ago
I'd yell as loud as I can at Jarzombek, because he'd likely play everything significant that Portnoy could do at first listen and then *ADD* shit to it to give it that *personalized* touch. Portnoy would end up putting his sticks down and claiming, "He copied me."
Acosmicist 2 years ago
simply due to *inability to comprehend* what just occured.
Acosmicist 2 years ago
La cago este wn!! toca pero demasiado genial!!
freaksynaesthesia 2 years ago
Can't go a progressive youtube vid without any debate about the good ol' Dream Theater!
200Tommo791 2 years ago 2
I'm with you if u r talking abt the latest albums for DT but the old ones are amazing sometimes repeated but in a new way but come on its DT hehe :P
moertz 2 years ago
I guess if Dream Theatre where musicians, they would write music. Like Spastic Ink does.
reffo 2 years ago
Y do u think that Dream Theater are not musicians? I guess both are unique in their own way. Comparing DT with Spasitc Ink is tht DT are more melodic than Spastic Ink. While both have great techniques.
moertz 2 years ago 5
Well, they are amazing on their instrument when it comes to technique. But in my opinion they lack musical creativity and taste.
reffo 2 years ago
Stop debating, if you dont like this music don't listen. It's just a different style. just like alot of people think rap has no creativity (like me) but i'm not gonna argue it. It's just opinion.
Kdrummer095SPEGVf 2 years ago
All music is different. I like both bands, and I hope they stay the way they are. Just because you like one band better or even if one band is better, why the hell do you think anyones going to change the way they play they're music?
shanebieda 2 years ago
holy shit!! right there with danny carey, imo!!!
metalcruzer 2 years ago
Bobby is WAY beyond Danny Carey in terms of sheer ability and just as creative on the kit as Danny.
SabuPtolemy 2 years ago
What's up? I haven't heard anything Bobby's done except the Halford stuff, I need to check some songs out, He was in a band called Riot, yes? and Spastic Ink..
metalcruzer 2 years ago
Bobby is back with Riot now. He is also with Fates Warning and Sebastian Bach. He did 2 albums with Spastic Ink - the song in this video is from the 2nd Ink album. The stuff with Ink is by far his most technical drumming. Other than that his best drumming is on Riot's 'The Privilege of Power'. 2 other great releases with Bobby are Riot - 'Thundersteel' and Rob Rock - 'Holy Hell' (w/ Roy Z from Halford on guitar). If you are a Halford/Priest fan both those should be right up your alley.
SabuPtolemy 2 years ago
what the heck are you talking about. Danny Carey plays a completley different style.
shanebieda 2 years ago
I'm talking ability NOT technique ; )
metalcruzer 2 years ago
Well how do you know he's able to even play this stuff. haha. I don't really care. Idk why I replied to ur comment.
shanebieda 2 years ago
Awesome dynamics and cymbal work...Bobby is one of the best drummers in the world.
TimeLordGuitar 2 years ago 7
holy fucking mother fucking shit dude
se7en8ight6ix1ne 2 years ago 7
2:03 ... WOW!
meleneemil 2 years ago
insane timing, Bobby is tha man
persini 2 years ago 5
Jarzombek and Portnoy are both excellent drummers.
SonEtLumiere47 2 years ago
yeah but portnoy makes just more linear music (dream theater, neal morse, transatlantic...) but he's very talented, bobby too
davecestmoi 2 years ago 3
ever heard andromeda's Thomas Lejon? Hes very impressive too.
DanielCriticalMX 2 years ago
Whoa.
ACDCBoy62 2 years ago
1:14 to 1:50 seriously, this bit of the song gives me an erection. What a groove and what a riff. It's proggy it sounds thrash it sounds funky, damn it))
Then you got to deal with those rfboys who say MPortnoy is the best prog drummer xDDDD
Yee, and this guy chops his extremities off meanwhile XDDD
BJ Incredible drumming.
aquienbuscas 2 years ago 5
lol best concentration face
mongobongoman 2 years ago
He used to teach at H&H? I didn't know. He's got a studio now and that's where i go.
Rasen2123 2 years ago
2:03 to 2:04 IS FFFFFFUCKING SOOOOO AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
drewthedrummer 2 years ago
I never, EVER get tired of watching that...
osageindy1 2 years ago
I actually take lessons from Ron (Jarzombek), and the solo from this song is one he had me learn from practice. It's pretty cool that ive got a guitar teacher that actually played with a buncho people, cuz i know some people who get taught out of a book. So it's pretty kool.
Rasen2123 2 years ago 2
man thats awesome! tell him hes the man!
mongobongoman 2 years ago
No problem man, im sure he'll appreciate it.
Rasen2123 2 years ago
0:12 to 0:17 is imposible
anivertimol 2 years ago
haha oh yea...
1MorA1 2 years ago
If you wanna hear more straightforward Bobby playing listen to Touched By The Crimson King by Demons & Wizards.
gunslingersirk 2 years ago
blotted science is fucking cool. im not really diggin spastic though. its tech and cool but it lacks power. to me anyways
shlempnar 3 years ago
To me, this and Blotted Science is possibly the best music I've ever heard. Or at least it captures my attention the most. Spastic Ink (especially Ink Complete) and Blotted Science both display such a beautiful complex madness, while still somehow sounding super badass. Takes me like 10 listens of a song before I start to fully appreciate it, and to me, that equals f@$#ing good music! I will never understand why people can hate this music, but hey that's just me.
OpethCommodore 3 years ago 3
haha yeah 10 listens at least ! that's why peaple don't like this when they first hear it...
restedante 3 years ago 2
because 95% of the people are not musically talented enough to understand complex music.
Accavarium 2 years ago 7
because 95% of people are normal. lol, I don't get the eliticism people have over such technical music. And don't get me wrong, I love Spastic Ink and I find them very accesible to my taste, but just saying, the average person has a good excuse for not liking it. They have "better" things to worry about :P
Proghead88 2 years ago 4
there isn't anything better than progressive music.
Accavarium 2 years ago 3
eliticism = not a word
also, yeah a lot of prog people are elitists. I love prog, but i can understand people who don't. Its just a choice people make between music that's better listened to actively or passively. its called music THEORY for a reason. they aren't rules for making good music, they are guidelines for making music that sounds good to an ear that's been raised in the environment that that music comes from. for example, Indian music theory is completely different from ours.
Opermias 2 years ago 3
I meant elitism. You still understood what I meant in the end.
As long as we're at it:
Learn to capitalize :P
Proghead88 2 years ago
Bobby is clearly a maticulous technician but I hate this music. It is cerebral but dead. I wish he'd play straight time to see how that sounds. I'd bet it might sound odd. Bobby is still a killer player.
ronoman88 3 years ago
He plays it straight with plenty of other bands. It would be a crime if someone this talented decided to be Phil Rudd instead of doing something like Spastic Ink.
SabuPtolemy 3 years ago 7
one the best drummer ever ;D
shuldinako 3 years ago
my favourite drummer - insanely co-ordinated and so fast. Try playing this and you will understand.
sandblast93 3 years ago 2
when i had my set, i played open handed. inspired by bobby of course. It was so fun, hardly anybody does it, yet it makes so much sense.
allstar550 3 years ago
i fucking know, i play open handed, its the best thing that ever happened to my drumming, so much freedom like instantly.
RedOnChrome 3 years ago
well He's playing drums since he was 8 or something and now about 43 or something I don't remember now, so, practice, practice and practice
szatanesque666 3 years ago