this can work given the right circumstances, no technique will always work but with enouf techniques in your tool belt you can have the right one for what ever job u run into... thanks 4 the vid man, u gave me one more tool =)
I believe the reason this wouldn't work in real sparring is because the double leg guy isn't driving. In real life even a novice will drive forward/sideways very hard. Then when he tries the counter by jumping he will only fall over... the wrong way, and land on his back.
@theguyi26 Ya true, his partner's double had next to zero penetration, and the odds of hitting this move are pretty slim, cause the shooter would have to pretty much just fall right over to get it. And even if you are able to get under, the guy on top can hit a peterson and make this move completely pointless.
I assume you can do this in regular wrestling? Sorry if its a stupid question, we were shown how the double leg is performed and I think I can handle that but I don't know aout counters
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Im a tall guy and this defense works great. I truely enjoy how smooth your transition is, made me take a serious look at my own technique. Thanks for the excellent post.
meh that guy has to commit to that jab for yer hand to go up high and get out of the way of yer hips I noticed the instructor knew he wasnt going to get punched so he kept his hands low and another point that fat guy is suppose to jab and change levels at the same time its faster and less telegraphed than the takedown he did, also why did he stop once he grabbed thats not full speed that was some fat dude settin himself up to be rolled over like that
I love counters like this, I stand 6' 6 and people has a habit of going single/doubles on me. Long legs given them so much area to grab onto and they dont need to get too low to shoot in either. Im use to doing the one where you throw them over you self and sit back down and try to roll over and get mount.
This looks good too, im going to try and see if it works for me in a few days.
In theory yes, but then again many people have honestly crappy takedowns. Like the way it is demonstrated (and yes, I understand it is a demonstration...) I personally feel the attacker does not have enough leverage to give you a clean double leg takedown.
However, he is in a good position to muscle it through if you don't react quickly. Or transition to a single leg.
I think it's a terrific move!
Of course if you can propose something better... Bring it on!
This is an awesome technique!! I really like the simplicity and it is taught very well! I will practice this one, thanks for the quality video! Keep up the good work and God bless!
I used this many times fighting after school when I was in elementary school growing up. After we hit the ground I always finished and won the fight by getting them in a scissors. It was over 40 years ago but it worked.
I really like this counter to the shot. I have a tendency to be lazy with my sprawls and this gives me another option other than getting slammed on my back. Thanks!!
nice move i always grap opponents torso area like what you are doing but i kinda suplex him so it would make no control over my oponent nice move gotta learn this
@iwanttofight69 I feel that most dogs are natural wrestlers. They rarely go for submissions, they never pull guard it's pretty much all about top positioning for them.
@TakingItToTheMMAT i regularly grapple with both my dogs and they are terrible, if i put my legs up to pull guard they hump it, dog fighting is all about taking the back lol love ur vids
@jonny232323232323 You have to understand, Dogs come from a different culture than our own. You see, for them, having testicles or an occasional anus up their nose isn't a negative or humiliating thing. Humping your leg is like submitting you.
@jonny232323232323 No. Unfortunately, if you were belly up with your legs in the air and your dog was humping your leg, you were the one being dominated.
@TakingItToTheMMAT My teacher trained with Erik for a few years in the late 90"s . He fought against Pat Millitech , Jeremy Horn and in Vale Tudo Brazil, he taught it to me and I have taught it to my guys . Is this something you learned from Erik as well ?
@wolverinemma, Coach Kiser is a Utah State Representative and I am a Coach Level 3 in Sensei Paulson's CSW Curriculum. Coach Kiser also had rankings in Shooto under Sensei Paulson before he migrated his teachings into CSW. The technique demonstrated here is an adaptation of a technique taught by Ricco Chiapparelli at the 2005 CSW Instructors/Fighter Camp. We host an annual seminar with Sensei Paulson and travel to the CSW Instructors/Fighter Camp each year.
@TakingItToTheMMAT Thanks for the reply , and I definetely know who all of you are. I enjoy picking up tips from all of you and would love to go to seminars myself. but I live in Florida and as close as I have seen you guys coming to is Georgia . I miss training Catch wrestling and Shooto but am happy that I got to learn something different even if it was only for a few years. I teach what I know of Catch and Shooto and am proud to have lineage to Sensei Paulson . I wear my CSW t-shirt proudly.
He's one of Sensei Paulson's CSW Affiliates and hosts all kinds of talent out there, guys like WEC Champ Mike Brown and the like. If you do, let him know his friends Brian and Brandon send their warm regards. We CSW guys got to stick together.
i'm not too surprised. in mma it looks like it might work because they won't see it coming but in normal wrestling that move will put you in bad positioning if you opponet isn't slow and weak
hes putting his knee on the ground for the video silly...and if he wanted to counter a guillotine he wouldnt put his head under his armpit and not have it tucked in
im a wrestler and i tryed something like this many times only i roll him over my head it works now and then but i would rather cross face.if ur oppenent knows its coming it usally wont work so you can try to grap the leg when this happens when he shoots on you so grap the leg and roll him over ur head
I doubt you could pull this off with a good wrestler. Once they shoot, they just keep driving and run you over. I see this working if you drill this move alot and time it just right. Awesome move though!
I just have to point out this is 30% success rate but very good against someone with no wrestling position understanding. Reson is when you shot a double leg you dont have your head down. You shot head should be in his cheast or as you turn the corner "bitting his tit off" this stops spawling, crossface and almost every type of counter. If it is a good shot and very good penetration and you turn the corner and have proper head position this move does not work.
I'm not sure how better wrestling technique will prevent this counter- so what if the shooter's head is up? The mechanics of this counter are still in play, and if timed right, it works... am I missing something?
When you have your head up and in the right posistion then he cant reach over ya. Working with Ricky Lundell and stuff too you cant do that since out posistion. If the guy drops off ya then easy take down.
this can work given the right circumstances, no technique will always work but with enouf techniques in your tool belt you can have the right one for what ever job u run into... thanks 4 the vid man, u gave me one more tool =)
HOTRODRICO 2 weeks ago
very nice
croxtiger 1 month ago
I believe the reason this wouldn't work in real sparring is because the double leg guy isn't driving. In real life even a novice will drive forward/sideways very hard. Then when he tries the counter by jumping he will only fall over... the wrong way, and land on his back.
theguyi26 2 months ago
@theguyi26 Ya true, his partner's double had next to zero penetration, and the odds of hitting this move are pretty slim, cause the shooter would have to pretty much just fall right over to get it. And even if you are able to get under, the guy on top can hit a peterson and make this move completely pointless.
bjjalltheway1 2 months ago
Great move, I sure could have used that on my friend when we used to wrestle, he was always getting me on the 2 leg takedown!!
mediaboyz 3 months ago
Nice, makes me wanna get back into judo, damn college.
HisROYALbadnes 3 months ago
your gym went under.
ultrapancake 3 months ago
I assume you can do this in regular wrestling? Sorry if its a stupid question, we were shown how the double leg is performed and I think I can handle that but I don't know aout counters
kilerseven 4 months ago
Everyone keeps saying that is a terrible double leg... Thats what my double looks like :(
AUgold15 4 months ago
not a very good double leg
GriffinAmongOceans 6 months ago
really good videos but i think i can hear the camera man breathing. might want to invest in a stand alone microphone. for more professionalism. great tutorials
BadBackBeast 6 months ago 2
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TakingItToTheMMAT 6 months ago
i use this move 'cause it's simply effective to avoid ground and take the back
S3TPROGRAM 7 months ago
Im a tall guy and this defense works great. I truely enjoy how smooth your transition is, made me take a serious look at my own technique. Thanks for the excellent post.
MrWaterfighter 7 months ago
ah man that was awsome
sk8rtay44 8 months ago
big eared chink
bugatti264 8 months ago
@bugatti264 say that to his face
peekaycourtenay 8 months ago
@bugatti264 What is wrong with you?
gcbarone 6 months ago
can i try this on my grandpa?
theory816 10 months ago
@theory816 if you do, might as well go ahead and buy a coffin
TradingWoWaccount 7 months ago
Interesting. I'll have to try it out.
haffoc 11 months ago
Of course you are just going to make his takedown that much easier if he makes any effort to cut the angle.
givebeesachance 11 months ago
damn you are an awsome instructor, i cant wait to use this technique
ElManguProduction 11 months ago
meh that guy has to commit to that jab for yer hand to go up high and get out of the way of yer hips I noticed the instructor knew he wasnt going to get punched so he kept his hands low and another point that fat guy is suppose to jab and change levels at the same time its faster and less telegraphed than the takedown he did, also why did he stop once he grabbed thats not full speed that was some fat dude settin himself up to be rolled over like that
samtotheg 1 year ago
I love counters like this, I stand 6' 6 and people has a habit of going single/doubles on me. Long legs given them so much area to grab onto and they dont need to get too low to shoot in either. Im use to doing the one where you throw them over you self and sit back down and try to roll over and get mount.
This looks good too, im going to try and see if it works for me in a few days.
95ellington 1 year ago
no offence but going at full speed this takedown if very fast ...u wont have time to drop ur hands and catch him if he doing a double leg
glanester391 1 year ago
@glanester391
In theory yes, but then again many people have honestly crappy takedowns. Like the way it is demonstrated (and yes, I understand it is a demonstration...) I personally feel the attacker does not have enough leverage to give you a clean double leg takedown.
However, he is in a good position to muscle it through if you don't react quickly. Or transition to a single leg.
I think it's a terrific move!
Of course if you can propose something better... Bring it on!
GoongFooStud 8 months ago
@GoongFooStud i spawl in position
glanester391 4 months ago
There is a variation of this technique, fliping your opponent over your guard so you end up on mount. Both of them work very well.
MursuTheMan 1 year ago
beautiful
emaun423 1 year ago
This is an awesome technique!! I really like the simplicity and it is taught very well! I will practice this one, thanks for the quality video! Keep up the good work and God bless!
pistol975 1 year ago
would this work in wrestling? or will you just get stuck on your back like a turtle lol.
wtfasiankid8o8 1 year ago
Is this legal in Olympic wrestling? Cause the body locking part makes me wonder
sStanleYyI03 1 year ago
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this. is not easy!
SilverStaR478 1 year ago
I used this many times fighting after school when I was in elementary school growing up. After we hit the ground I always finished and won the fight by getting them in a scissors. It was over 40 years ago but it worked.
CharlesRaines 1 year ago
Just remember folks this dosnt work against Brock Lesnar!
3876samf 1 year ago 3
Brilliant, I knew there was something to be got from double overs from here..thanks.
Tell me, does this work effectively if you backed up against the wall????
Thanks again.
dmoirc 1 year ago
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dmoirc 1 year ago
nice and good video.
5674trackrunner 1 year ago
Thx 4 the advise i was looking for a way to counter a double leg.
cloudclone99 1 year ago
nice move thnaks a lot
aucteakwondomaster 1 year ago
In a lot of street fights this situation turns up but its more in the form of a football tackle would this counter still apply
punkofdeath 1 year ago
NICE.
hebronsawyers 1 year ago
pretty cool, thx guys!
Trashboldus 1 year ago
I actually DID Triangle my moms BF's seeing eyedog. strangely, he never saw it coming.
mdkvtmc 1 year ago 3
my dog got me in a triangle! I escaped and got leg locked, this move did not work on him
1lostinspace 1 year ago
Ah, this is good too, I used to do rice bag reversal when Im too late to sprawl, this is good too, gonna try it tonight.
95ellington 1 year ago
I really like this counter to the shot. I have a tendency to be lazy with my sprawls and this gives me another option other than getting slammed on my back. Thanks!!
mstng50l 1 year ago
no offense but that is a terrible shot
mcerro119 2 years ago 5
I don't think you're supposed to put your head down when you're doing a double..
I wrestled this guy the other day, he did a double and his head was up, over my shoulder and I couldn't counter it. =_=
604Aron 2 years ago
@604Aron for jiu jitsu you want your head tucked in so you dont get guillotined but for wrestling you want your head higher, so it depends
jacesk8ter123 1 year ago
nice move i always grap opponents torso area like what you are doing but i kinda suplex him so it would make no control over my oponent nice move gotta learn this
MSTBW 2 years ago
i saw the thai flag lolz
pwaii 2 years ago
OMG im wrestling in high school, anybody know if this is folkstyle worthy?
Vineezay 2 years ago
deffinatley folk style worthy just gotta get the reaction time down
MrMckmike 2 years ago
just make sure you dont land square on your back and let him stick you there obviously. keep your momentum going
SoCalm013 2 years ago
i wouldnt risk it.
WoWbob396 1 year ago
This move works tried it on my dog. He came up and bit my stomach, I then grabbed his waist and rolled him. He was like mutha fucka
iwanttofight69 2 years ago 57
@iwanttofight69 I feel that most dogs are natural wrestlers. They rarely go for submissions, they never pull guard it's pretty much all about top positioning for them.
TakingItToTheMMAT 2 years ago 48
@TakingItToTheMMAT i regularly grapple with both my dogs and they are terrible, if i put my legs up to pull guard they hump it, dog fighting is all about taking the back lol love ur vids
jonny232323232323 1 year ago
@jonny232323232323 You have to understand, Dogs come from a different culture than our own. You see, for them, having testicles or an occasional anus up their nose isn't a negative or humiliating thing. Humping your leg is like submitting you.
TakingItToTheMMAT 1 year ago
@TakingItToTheMMAT so i guess i can rest easy that in my own way i did get the tap
jonny232323232323 1 year ago
@jonny232323232323 No. Unfortunately, if you were belly up with your legs in the air and your dog was humping your leg, you were the one being dominated.
TakingItToTheMMAT 1 year ago
@TakingItToTheMMAT But i transitioned to the rnc
jonny232323232323 1 year ago
@TakingItToTheMMAT My teacher trained with Erik for a few years in the late 90"s . He fought against Pat Millitech , Jeremy Horn and in Vale Tudo Brazil, he taught it to me and I have taught it to my guys . Is this something you learned from Erik as well ?
wolverinemma 1 year ago
@wolverinemma, Coach Kiser is a Utah State Representative and I am a Coach Level 3 in Sensei Paulson's CSW Curriculum. Coach Kiser also had rankings in Shooto under Sensei Paulson before he migrated his teachings into CSW. The technique demonstrated here is an adaptation of a technique taught by Ricco Chiapparelli at the 2005 CSW Instructors/Fighter Camp. We host an annual seminar with Sensei Paulson and travel to the CSW Instructors/Fighter Camp each year.
TakingItToTheMMAT 1 year ago
@TakingItToTheMMAT Thanks for the reply , and I definetely know who all of you are. I enjoy picking up tips from all of you and would love to go to seminars myself. but I live in Florida and as close as I have seen you guys coming to is Georgia . I miss training Catch wrestling and Shooto but am happy that I got to learn something different even if it was only for a few years. I teach what I know of Catch and Shooto and am proud to have lineage to Sensei Paulson . I wear my CSW t-shirt proudly.
wolverinemma 1 year ago
@wolverinemma, Man if you can I'd check out:
Barry, Kenny
World Martial Arts Jax
2375 St. Johns Bluff Rd
Suite 102
Jacksonville, FL 32246
904-642-3150
He's one of Sensei Paulson's CSW Affiliates and hosts all kinds of talent out there, guys like WEC Champ Mike Brown and the like. If you do, let him know his friends Brian and Brandon send their warm regards. We CSW guys got to stick together.
TakingItToTheMMAT 1 year ago
@TakingItToTheMMAT I definetely will , thank you sir .
wolverinemma 1 year ago
what would be a good follow up after the take down in stead of regaining your standing position?
tkd3030 2 years ago
try to get a guillotine, try to turn so you can get the rear naked choke in. stuff like that
soulblader7 2 years ago
dayum this shyts awsome....WoW!!!
waydow89 2 years ago
Great move. great vid
Cyphercry 2 years ago
I always use this after I have a lag reaction to the sprawl.
THIS MOVE = AWESOME
THANK YOU!!
604Aron 2 years ago
insane double leg - /watch?v=vZlUl9raXc4
kazuko26 2 years ago
i tried that,got my ass kicked thx guys
sanjuanpapi 2 years ago
i'm not too surprised. in mma it looks like it might work because they won't see it coming but in normal wrestling that move will put you in bad positioning if you opponet isn't slow and weak
bigal1414141414 2 years ago
hello, I'd have 2 questions (i'm a beginner): by putting the knee on the ground, the guy performing the takedown doesn't lose some momentum?
by placing his neck right on his opponent's side, how would he counter a guillotine? thanks! (nice video btw! thanks for sharing!)
choubix 2 years ago
Choubix,
hes putting his knee on the ground for the video silly...and if he wanted to counter a guillotine he wouldnt put his head under his armpit and not have it tucked in
couldntchoose 2 years ago
good video guys. nice counter if you miss the sprawl.
Sprawl001 2 years ago
man you guys have helped me improve my game so much i really apreiciate what your doing.
alion06 2 years ago
im a wrestler and i tryed something like this many times only i roll him over my head it works now and then but i would rather cross face.if ur oppenent knows its coming it usally wont work so you can try to grap the leg when this happens when he shoots on you so grap the leg and roll him over ur head
08fear 2 years ago
thus is for wen its to late to cross face
alion06 2 years ago
very good.
geofat858 2 years ago
its beautiful
badgochiller 2 years ago
I doubt you could pull this off with a good wrestler. Once they shoot, they just keep driving and run you over. I see this working if you drill this move alot and time it just right. Awesome move though!
jkullander 2 years ago
I just have to point out this is 30% success rate but very good against someone with no wrestling position understanding. Reson is when you shot a double leg you dont have your head down. You shot head should be in his cheast or as you turn the corner "bitting his tit off" this stops spawling, crossface and almost every type of counter. If it is a good shot and very good penetration and you turn the corner and have proper head position this move does not work.
statechamp86 2 years ago
I'm not sure how better wrestling technique will prevent this counter- so what if the shooter's head is up? The mechanics of this counter are still in play, and if timed right, it works... am I missing something?
Kankudai 2 years ago
When you have your head up and in the right posistion then he cant reach over ya. Working with Ricky Lundell and stuff too you cant do that since out posistion. If the guy drops off ya then easy take down.
statechamp86 2 years ago
can you pull it of as a big guy
weightlifter265 2 years ago
Awsome, very nice! very useful and best of all its simple!
TheCanadianForces 2 years ago
dude... all of your videos are spot on success
you've got some lucky lucky guys training at your gym
uckushtar 2 years ago
I like it... seems like it would work well, not to complicated, not to technical.
zaxonortesus 2 years ago
Being slow on the sprawl this looks like a great option for me.
JRT140 2 years ago
this works
i tried it like five times worked all times
j0e14 2 years ago
Really good advice there! Thanks! Also, good filming.
cbproducktions 2 years ago
keep up the amazing work!
aaron4820 2 years ago
phat
bigbeat11 2 years ago
I've subscribed, and I love the approach you guys bring to your teaching. Complete, simple, and thorough. Keep them coming, I'm a fan.
mankyller 2 years ago
Really nice!!!
neosamurai 2 years ago
excellent, thats all I can say
projectanimage 2 years ago
Great Job, I will put that to work.
JamesDanielDoss73 2 years ago
Great Demo. I love your videos guys. Please keep them coming.
pirolak47 2 years ago