I'm sure music has been accidently used twice. There is only so many patterns you can make before you'll eventually start repeating. They sound incredibly similar, but nothing to wow at.
The musical interpretation is nowhere near close the same.... The diminished chords on King Kong make it more of a direct order in attacking an object and agitation vs Avatar with a more contemplative notion in major-minor chordial formation for an end to a dramatic scene...sort of like an end.
It isn't a coincidence that we all noticed the similarities. I actually just typed in Avatar and King Kong music and came up with the link to your You Tube page. I was curious if they had just used the same music or if someone had simply made a score similar to Kong. Good job on your comparison. I think there were some more scenes with the same music in Kong, but we got the idea. Good Job!
Interesting and true. But both composers, though geniouses, are notorious for reusing their own material. That four-note horn motif is a signature of Horner (listen for it in Mask of Zorro, Star Trek II, Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, etc.), while the string section is a rearrangement of A Beautiful Mind. The instrumentation is switched in Barry's score, with the strings doing the four-note motif, and horns doing the melody. . Still, I am a HUGE Barry fan . . . and a Horner fan, as well
YES! I was hoping someone else noticed this! The second that music came up in Avatar I immediately recognized it as the music from 70's Kong. It's not identical, but it evokes the exact same tone and emotion. I could never forget that music because it was a signature of one of my favorite movies as a kid. I do have to say that the Avatar version is a lot better, and that James Horner is my all-time favorite movie composer, but shame on him for copying Barry.
i don't mean to stray off topic but this version of king kong was followed a decade later with the even campier "king kong lives". in the sequel scientist linda hamilton has sustained the giant gorilla but needs a lot of blood for a transfusion,so luckily a FEMALE kong is discovered in borneo!
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that roar! However, I have reason to believe that at least one element of the roar effect had been used countless times before in B-dinosaur-films. Listen to the original mono track of Spielberg's Duel (no spoiler, but it's at the end of the climax).
@ironhandz1 Yes! I noticed that too, do you know of any way to get a hold of that "roar?" I figured it must've been an old oft used one too after hearing it In Avatar, but I have been looking everywhere for a clip of it searching "King Kong roar" to no avail.
Interesting observation. I did notice the Thanator uses the Kong 76 roar at a pivotal moment in the finale, so look for that. Love this night scene where Kong is chasing Dwan and Jack. How fast would you run? This Kong is a MONSTER MOVIE!
James Horner makes such trivial scores, I barely can remember of any. Avatar's was forgotten 10 minutes after I saw the movie.
nicolashrv 2 months ago
I never cared for Avatar's score.
RkivUnderground 1 year ago
@RkivUnderground AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
01tnql 9 months ago
@ Dicarts: Can you upload the Kong version alone? Some have put up the 1976 soundtrack but minus this song and another similar to it.
Triskanivious 1 year ago
Kinda'of a stretch. Certainly not as close as Danny Elfman Wolfman and '92' Dracula.
jayce79 1 year ago
Oh come on this is really a stretch,I dont find them very similar at all.
bluestriker4444 1 year ago
I'm sure music has been accidently used twice. There is only so many patterns you can make before you'll eventually start repeating. They sound incredibly similar, but nothing to wow at.
VaderHater99 1 year ago
The musical interpretation is nowhere near close the same.... The diminished chords on King Kong make it more of a direct order in attacking an object and agitation vs Avatar with a more contemplative notion in major-minor chordial formation for an end to a dramatic scene...sort of like an end.
juancho661 1 year ago
It isn't a coincidence that we all noticed the similarities. I actually just typed in Avatar and King Kong music and came up with the link to your You Tube page. I was curious if they had just used the same music or if someone had simply made a score similar to Kong. Good job on your comparison. I think there were some more scenes with the same music in Kong, but we got the idea. Good Job!
caligodzilla 1 year ago
@caligodzilla You should check again....
juancho661 1 year ago
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JoeSnyderwalk 2 years ago
Both of these great composers are "borrowing" from Rachmaninov's Symphony No.1. Listen to that and you'll notice a familiar four note motif.
Chazam3663 2 years ago 3
Interesting and true. But both composers, though geniouses, are notorious for reusing their own material. That four-note horn motif is a signature of Horner (listen for it in Mask of Zorro, Star Trek II, Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, etc.), while the string section is a rearrangement of A Beautiful Mind. The instrumentation is switched in Barry's score, with the strings doing the four-note motif, and horns doing the melody. . Still, I am a HUGE Barry fan . . . and a Horner fan, as well
ironhandz1 1 year ago
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@Chazam3663 True story. This has been established for years now.
DamienDrake 7 months ago
King Kong Lives on Pandora!!!!!!!! They should have been worshiping him instead of a tree... that's why their village was destroyed!
DigDug73 2 years ago 10
What a rip-off! John Barry still outclasses all younger contemporary composers by a long shot.
Rockstarkong 2 years ago 2
YES! I was hoping someone else noticed this! The second that music came up in Avatar I immediately recognized it as the music from 70's Kong. It's not identical, but it evokes the exact same tone and emotion. I could never forget that music because it was a signature of one of my favorite movies as a kid. I do have to say that the Avatar version is a lot better, and that James Horner is my all-time favorite movie composer, but shame on him for copying Barry.
Didn't notice the roar. Load it!
ZioCarl 2 years ago
Timing and key sounds completely different as does the instrumentation.
Horner does sound like he borrowed from his beautiful mind soundtrack though.
themange59 2 years ago
i don't mean to stray off topic but this version of king kong was followed a decade later with the even campier "king kong lives". in the sequel scientist linda hamilton has sustained the giant gorilla but needs a lot of blood for a transfusion,so luckily a FEMALE kong is discovered in borneo!
ladner3000moviebuff 2 years ago
I noticed the roar too! I'm tempted to upload the clip of the Thanator with Kong but it might get taken down.
Dicarts 2 years ago
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that roar! However, I have reason to believe that at least one element of the roar effect had been used countless times before in B-dinosaur-films. Listen to the original mono track of Spielberg's Duel (no spoiler, but it's at the end of the climax).
ironhandz1 1 year ago
@ironhandz1 Yes! I noticed that too, do you know of any way to get a hold of that "roar?" I figured it must've been an old oft used one too after hearing it In Avatar, but I have been looking everywhere for a clip of it searching "King Kong roar" to no avail.
Kidchair 1 year ago
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Monoclesaurus 8 months ago
Interesting observation. I did notice the Thanator uses the Kong 76 roar at a pivotal moment in the finale, so look for that. Love this night scene where Kong is chasing Dwan and Jack. How fast would you run? This Kong is a MONSTER MOVIE!
Deepestblue42 2 years ago