Fergus McWilliam, who is the horn is also the founder of the quintet. The horn blends with many types of ensembles, there are many times when they are the only wind instrument with strings as well......it's an extremely versatile instrument with it's range. 4+octaves! :)
Woodwind quintets are always composed of those 5 instruments! Always! The master composers wrote for them with each instruments timbre in mind-adding a sax changes the dynamic. A sax overpowers the lighter instuments, if adding anything it would be bass clarinet, that mkes it a wind esemble
Woodwind quintets are always composed of those 5 instruments! Always! The master composers wrote for them with each instruments timbre in mind-adding a sax changes the dynamic. A sax overpowers the lighter instuments, if adding anything it would be bass clarinet, that makes it a wind ensemble
Woodwind quintets are always composed of those 5 instruments! Always! The master composers wrote for them with each instruments timbre in mind-adding a sax changes the dynamic. A sax overpowers the lighter instuments, if adding anything it would be bass clarinet, that makes it a wind ensemble
For you people who dont know, which is apparently everyone, a horn is used in woodwind quintets even though its not a ww because saxophones werent yet invented in the time that ww quintets started being composed!!!! There you go =D
These instruments all have such strong individual characters that it would be difficult to replace any of them with saxophone. It would sound great however, to have a sax play a melody OVER a wind quintet accompaniment. What wonderful colors!
the comments left here make me want to pull my hair out. whoever said a sax would sound better in a wind quintet obviously doesn't understand the role of each of the players in the group. each instrument has a certain affect attached to it. guy with saxophone in your screen name, here's news for you: no one thinks of 18th century hunting parties when the sax is played. hell, it wasn't even invented until after many of the staples of the rep. were written.
2 trumpets, horn, trombone and tuba would be a brass quintet - they're all brass instruments. 4 horns is a horn quartet - they're all horns. This why I question the title "woodwind" quintet for a group which is not all woodwind, but they are all wind - a wind quintet. I suppose the brass quintet is also made up of all wind but there is obviously a more specific common feature.
sorry ,correct original title should be "fantasie für Orgelwalze (Mechanic Organ) F-moll" kv 608, often performed by Woodwindquntett or organ, you will find a few recordings on youtube, I suppose. Good luck !
well for all to know the alto sax or any other sax came after the french horn and was later on replaced , but i have to say it does sound better with the french horn.
I know. But saxophonhes are not "standard" orchestral equipment. They have to be "invited" to play with an orchestra. If you go online and try to find the principle saxophone player for--say-- the New York Philharmonic, you would not be able to: He doesn't exist.
It's not a "lie"... the saxophone is most certainly not a standard orchestral instrument. There are, of course, quite a few works that include it, like Pictures at an Exhibition, Rachmaninoff Symphonic dances, the Suite to West Side Story, Bolero, etc. It is accurate to say it is not standard because the vast majority of orchestral pieces do not include saxophone. My estimate would be that for certain over 99% of orchestral pieces do not have saxophone. Not hating on it, just stating the facts.
Saxophone doesn't blend well with strings, its truth, but saying its not written in orchestra scores is like saying bongos, guitar and alto flute aren't.
It's not the truth that Saxophone doesn't blend well with strings. Just because some or most saxophone players can't blend well with strings or other instruments doesn't mean that the saxophone itself cannot blend well. Many of the problems you might be familiar with are due to mouthpiece choices among other reasons.
as many people have mentioned, the horn is NOT both a woodwind and a brass, but rather is included in the woodwind quintet (aka wind quintet) because it blends in well with the other instruments, and also because it serves as a sort of "base" to the music with its lower range and rich sound to balance the higher, somewhat "thinner" tones of the woodwind instruments
It's only in America that this type of ensemble is called a "woodwind quintet" - everywhere else it's a "wind quintet", which, given that there's a horn there, is a little more accurate don't you think?
The horn is a brass instrument but, since it blends well with woodwind instruments, is often used in conjunction with them. (It's often used in conjuction with string instruments too - it's very useful at adding "body" to a score)
Not only does it blend well, as you said, but it also is simply traditional. The first brass instrument to appear regulary with an orchestra was the horn and for more or less than a hundred years, the "wind" section of the orchestra consisted of oboes, bassons, clarinets, flutes, and, of course, horns.
The Horn has a mouthpiece into which the player "buzzes", making it a brass instrument. Woodwind instruments have either a single reed (clarinet), or double reed (oboe, bassoon) except for flute (which doesn't have a reed and is classified as an "edge-blown" aerophone).
This is a WW-quintet arrangement of Mozart's Fantasie in F minor, K. 608, originally for a barrel-organ, also existing from his time arranged for piano 4-hands, and usually played now as a solo organ piece.
Sorry I don't have the whole piece. I recorded this during a "rehearsal" for a concert they were to play that evening. They were only play "parts" of songs during the rehearsal to get a feel for the venue and the acoustic.
what piece is this?
MartinoDondievelo 5 days ago
Beautiful, quite impressed with the melody and chromatic steps and half's, great tone and dynamics, keep it up.
mrptech90 3 months ago
@mrptech90 ...these are members of one of the best orchestras in the world...
MarcoAJuarez 2 months ago
Fergus McWilliam, who is the horn is also the founder of the quintet. The horn blends with many types of ensembles, there are many times when they are the only wind instrument with strings as well......it's an extremely versatile instrument with it's range. 4+octaves! :)
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NSProductions1432 1 year ago
@NSProductions1432 Maybe you should research a woodwind quintet.
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Woodwind quintets are always composed of those 5 instruments! Always! The master composers wrote for them with each instruments timbre in mind-adding a sax changes the dynamic. A sax overpowers the lighter instuments, if adding anything it would be bass clarinet, that mkes it a wind esemble
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Woodwind quintets are always composed of those 5 instruments! Always! The master composers wrote for them with each instruments timbre in mind-adding a sax changes the dynamic. A sax overpowers the lighter instuments, if adding anything it would be bass clarinet, that makes it a wind ensemble
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Woodwind quintets are always composed of those 5 instruments! Always! The master composers wrote for them with each instruments timbre in mind-adding a sax changes the dynamic. A sax overpowers the lighter instuments, if adding anything it would be bass clarinet, that makes it a wind ensemble
iandemagi 1 year ago
For you people who dont know, which is apparently everyone, a horn is used in woodwind quintets even though its not a ww because saxophones werent yet invented in the time that ww quintets started being composed!!!! There you go =D
crystalsrandom 1 year ago
These instruments all have such strong individual characters that it would be difficult to replace any of them with saxophone. It would sound great however, to have a sax play a melody OVER a wind quintet accompaniment. What wonderful colors!
ZeroTheHero17 1 year ago
who is the composer of this piece ?
batura1 1 year ago
the comments left here make me want to pull my hair out. whoever said a sax would sound better in a wind quintet obviously doesn't understand the role of each of the players in the group. each instrument has a certain affect attached to it. guy with saxophone in your screen name, here's news for you: no one thinks of 18th century hunting parties when the sax is played. hell, it wasn't even invented until after many of the staples of the rep. were written.
citizenbanana 1 year ago
2 trumpets, horn, trombone and tuba would be a brass quintet - they're all brass instruments. 4 horns is a horn quartet - they're all horns. This why I question the title "woodwind" quintet for a group which is not all woodwind, but they are all wind - a wind quintet. I suppose the brass quintet is also made up of all wind but there is obviously a more specific common feature.
yateslawrence 1 year ago
NY phil is premiering Magnus Lindberg's clarinet concerto written for Kari Kriikku Feb. 13. Who's goin!?!?
doogix 2 years ago
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oboeguy01 2 years ago
I can't wait to hear it!
doogix 2 years ago
They're playing in Austin in two weeks :)
mutualism 2 years ago
Which composer are they playing? What is the name of this music piece?
harshmistress 2 years ago
sounds like mozart, right?
does anyone know?
alexsandstrom1 2 years ago
first part might be Reicha , second is Mozart Adagio + Fuge f minor KV 618 .
oboeguy01 2 years ago
It is one of Reicha's quintets, but I can't remember which one.
tim3929 1 year ago
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No It´s one of Danzi´s Quintet. 68 Nº2
;D
mrepiso 1 year ago
@mrepiso It is ten years since last I played horn in quintets, and I enjoyed both Reicha and Danzi - thanks for putting me right.
tim3929 1 year ago
sorry ,correct original title should be "fantasie für Orgelwalze (Mechanic Organ) F-moll" kv 608, often performed by Woodwindquntett or organ, you will find a few recordings on youtube, I suppose. Good luck !
oboeguy01 2 years ago
what piece is this?
jasperleeabc 2 years ago
LOVE THE OBOE!!!!!! :D
duff1018 2 years ago 6
well for all to know the alto sax or any other sax came after the french horn and was later on replaced , but i have to say it does sound better with the french horn.
saxophone016 2 years ago
what composer are they playing?
matrix1 2 years ago
Do not EVER replace horn with alto saxophone!
b2r1o0o6k8e8 2 years ago 51
@b2r1o0o6k8e8 exactly. tenor sax is fine....but alto....ehh
Katiebugggie 8 months ago
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The horn does belong in woodwind quintet but can be replaced with alto sax
thespeakerisloud 2 years ago
The alto sax (or any sax) doesn't even belong within miles of an orchestra, nevermind a woodwind quintet.
rugbyplayer9999 2 years ago
That is a complete lie. There are MANY works written for orchestra that include saxophone.
Shawnifer07 2 years ago
I know. But saxophonhes are not "standard" orchestral equipment. They have to be "invited" to play with an orchestra. If you go online and try to find the principle saxophone player for--say-- the New York Philharmonic, you would not be able to: He doesn't exist.
rugbyplayer9999 2 years ago
It's not a "lie"... the saxophone is most certainly not a standard orchestral instrument. There are, of course, quite a few works that include it, like Pictures at an Exhibition, Rachmaninoff Symphonic dances, the Suite to West Side Story, Bolero, etc. It is accurate to say it is not standard because the vast majority of orchestral pieces do not include saxophone. My estimate would be that for certain over 99% of orchestral pieces do not have saxophone. Not hating on it, just stating the facts.
bene951 2 years ago
IDK why you got thumbs down - its true!
Saxophone doesn't blend well with strings, its truth, but saying its not written in orchestra scores is like saying bongos, guitar and alto flute aren't.
Rodier1128 1 year ago
@Rodier1128
It's not the truth that Saxophone doesn't blend well with strings. Just because some or most saxophone players can't blend well with strings or other instruments doesn't mean that the saxophone itself cannot blend well. Many of the problems you might be familiar with are due to mouthpiece choices among other reasons.
drifteromega 7 months ago 5
@drifteromega exactly. i think a bari sax can blend very well if played properly.
barimusicman 2 months ago
@Rodier1128
barimusicman 2 months ago
as many people have mentioned, the horn is NOT both a woodwind and a brass, but rather is included in the woodwind quintet (aka wind quintet) because it blends in well with the other instruments, and also because it serves as a sort of "base" to the music with its lower range and rich sound to balance the higher, somewhat "thinner" tones of the woodwind instruments
flutendancelover 2 years ago 20
actually, the bassoon provides most of the bass in Woodwind Quintet quintet repertoire. The horn generally serves as the alto voice.
Marcu5r0xs0x 2 years ago
cool thanks =)
flutendancelover 2 years ago
is horn a wind instrument?
lyconthrop 2 years ago
Yes...how do you think you play it?
clintonfiske4prez 2 years ago 2
Yes a wind instrument, though not a WOODwind.You'll have to learn some music history to know why it's included.
Qcksil073 2 years ago 3
It's only in America that this type of ensemble is called a "woodwind quintet" - everywhere else it's a "wind quintet", which, given that there's a horn there, is a little more accurate don't you think?
yateslawrence 2 years ago 4
no in Singapore it is also called a woodwind quintet. By the way if i am not wrong the french horn is also a woodwind and brass instument.
weetjin 2 years ago
Thank you - I didn't realise that.
The horn is a brass instrument but, since it blends well with woodwind instruments, is often used in conjunction with them. (It's often used in conjuction with string instruments too - it's very useful at adding "body" to a score)
yateslawrence 2 years ago 4
Not only does it blend well, as you said, but it also is simply traditional. The first brass instrument to appear regulary with an orchestra was the horn and for more or less than a hundred years, the "wind" section of the orchestra consisted of oboes, bassons, clarinets, flutes, and, of course, horns.
rugbyplayer9999 2 years ago
It's not a woodwind instrument, but it's included in Wind Quintets because it blends so well with woodwinds.
ccruz996 2 years ago 3
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it is a woodwind and brass.
weetjin 2 years ago
The Horn has a mouthpiece into which the player "buzzes", making it a brass instrument. Woodwind instruments have either a single reed (clarinet), or double reed (oboe, bassoon) except for flute (which doesn't have a reed and is classified as an "edge-blown" aerophone).
rugbyplayer9999 2 years ago
no, but its usually used for woodwind ensembles.
nitsuaninja 2 years ago
^^ ur right,its brass,but u need it!it fits!
635Passworte 2 years ago 2
It's an everything instrument! -D It's really a brass, but it's used in almost every lil classical chamber-like group.
aztec11 2 years ago 3
whats a oboe?
duhreeldeal 2 years ago
It's only one of the most beautiful instruments in the world next to flute and piccolo ;D
Oboe the instrument that the man in the white shirt is playing. He's very talented.
piccguy94 2 years ago
Look up double reeds (i.e. oboe and bassoon)
Qcksil073 2 years ago
berlin, hands down, is simply the best.
music4dude 2 years ago 4
Detroit Symphony Orchestra all the way!!
I'm seeing them tomorrow!!!
instrumentgenius1 2 years ago
i dont know, the BPO might have them outdone, but then again i've never heard them so i couldn't say. haha
regardless of that, enjoy the performance!
what are they performing?
music4dude 2 years ago
carl orff's carmina bruana
and betthovens 5th piano concerto
instrumentgenius1 2 years ago
i live in detroit, and as much as i love my home...berlin, hands down, is simply the best.
jkjimmy 2 years ago 2
wow! (O.O) amazing! i play all but f horn. that's really good.
tmriemocutie 3 years ago
That oboeist is insanely amazing! Man, I could only wish to be that awesome!
internationalcp 3 years ago 3
i think you and just about everyone else in the world are thinking the same thing. i sure know I am.
joethemusician 2 years ago
Jesus H. Christ in a cardigan, the oboist is amazing. I give you your well-deserved propers, Mr. Andreas Wittmann.
Tylersaysjump 3 years ago 2
Trully outstanding, amazing,.thanks
jonny7classics 3 years ago
I saw them on this 2007 tour in Muncie IN and Detroit MI. They were phenomenal. No one else compares. See them the next time you can.
danmcglaun 3 years ago
Correction - it is only the Mozart starting at about 1:03"
danielspyle 3 years ago
Yes!
The first is Danzi's wind quintet, op. 68 n. 2 in F major.
legoemanuel 3 years ago
This is a WW-quintet arrangement of Mozart's Fantasie in F minor, K. 608, originally for a barrel-organ, also existing from his time arranged for piano 4-hands, and usually played now as a solo organ piece.
danielspyle 3 years ago
this is not a rehearsal. This is amazing.
darkcinderellaisabel 3 years ago
as stupid as i feel.... what piece is this?
Geniusmu09 3 years ago 4
You call this a rehearsal. LOL I CALL THIS A PERFORMANCE
Philimusical 4 years ago
it is a rehearsal. they need to play like performance level in order to hear wat it sounds like in the hall so they can adjust
crzy4lotr 3 years ago
their not dreesed up!
:P
HelveteKeiser 3 years ago
(they're in rehearsal, that's also why no one clapped at the end)
PuffsPlusWithLotion 2 years ago
very good but i would like to hear the hold music.
tyrroow 4 years ago
Sorry I don't have the whole piece. I recorded this during a "rehearsal" for a concert they were to play that evening. They were only play "parts" of songs during the rehearsal to get a feel for the venue and the acoustic.
Best,
momanace 4 years ago
very good :]
nice sound.
Catherine102591 4 years ago 3