Now I happen to live in Australia, so dont know the area... But YES this would have caused the fish to die with the fuel that was on the train.... Tho one thing I gotta admit, one good way to clean up the carp's.
Seagulls are smarter than the Americans they know not to eat the fish as Americans eat what- ever the government feeds them and too weak to do anything about it. Obamanation of the Americants as they are lead to the slater house by the ruler Obama. Wake up America your under siege
Cube11679, you don't say just where on the river you made your video.
FYI everybody, the effluent from the train fire flows into the Kishwaukee River on south Perryville RD, which in turn flows into the Rock River south of the Rockford (RKFD) airport.
rock falls il is were my video is the train is what people were saying caused it thats why it's labeled did rockford il train derailment effect fish i was and still am waiting for the answer
Pesticides from farmers. The train derailment was just an easy thing to blame. There werent any dead fish found north of grand detour. If it happened here in Rockford, there would be dead fish in Rockford. Fishing for me has been great this year and havent noticed any major changes. I even fished the blamed "Kill Zone" on the Kish and had the same luck Ive had for the past 15 years. So before you go blaming the train, look at all the farmers and pig farms and remember, they use checmicals too.
you can blame farmers but if thats the case why hasn't it happened before? and why did it only happen for a short period of time. also buy the time june all the chemicals that farmers use would of all ready been gone or how ever you want to put it(used up) and like like the next comment down says about the ethonal being deluted the same would go for the spray chemicals. so before you go blaming farmers consider that
@jdtech21089 It has happened before. I've seen similar mass die offs several times in the past 10 years, and that's just in Byron.
Ethanol isn't that toxic -- it's essentially drinking alcohol. Thousands of gallons might sound like a lot, but for a river it's just a drop in the bucket. By the time it reached the river it would be too dilute to do any harm.
I live in Rockford and fish 4 out of 7 days a week on the Rock and Kishwaukee Rivers. NOT 1 FISH was reported dead in this area. Ive spoken with 3 DNR officers and they say the same thing. This fish kill was not caused by the train. It was more then likely caused by pesticides and other chemicals further down south being washed into the river systems by all the rain. The ethonal would of been so deluted from all the water that by the time it hit the river, it wouldnt of been toxic.
I have fished here for many years. These are mostly carp (cyprinus carpio) and also smallmouth buffalo. It's not that difficult to tell the difference. Both are commercially fished on the Rock. There is also a small fish called a quillback carpsucker that you'll run into occasionally. Thanks Eric for these sad but informational videos.
Utter disgrace! This eco disaster is HUGE. DNR reports nothing on their website about this. Only local news coverage. Amazing how I'm still informing people about this - they had no idea. The river is shot. I've fished it for years and have never seen anything like it. Sometimes shad die along the banks after the ice melts but this is way different. This needs to be investigated and we have to demand answers. Don't give up.
id like to go back about 200 years before man started pointing all its drains at our rivers and see how clean the fish are. you couldnt pay me to eat anything out of the rock, maybe kilbuck creek but not the rock or pec or sugar or kish. pierce is a man made lake full of farm runoff from boone co. we trashed the midwest. boo!
it is better though. Tomorrow the water testing should be done and a press release should be given. I hope Canadian National pays for this and the money is put back into restocking the river. probably won't happen, but it should.
I don't think ethanol killed them. Ethanol is extremely water-soluble and I remember a train accident in Pennsylvania a few years back that had tanks full of ethanol actually derail into a river & there was no reports of a fish-kill. Who knows, may be wrong. Were there reports of any other chemicals on that train?
all the run off from the recent heavy rains. While the carp are spawning their stress levels are very high and need high levels of oxygen.. No worries tree huggers!
poozle1-- the estimate is that 70,000 fish died and flowed down river. And that is a low estimate. Really this is terrible and a huge loss for the rock river which is incredibly beautiful and known for great fishing. My question is why did the fish start floating at Grand Detour when the spill happened in Rockford.
Tree huggers? I wish you were right. Walleyes, Smallies, and Gar have been found. 50 pound cats. It was the spill. Fish found in the Hundreds of Thousands, DNR have confirmed. But then again they are not experts right...? Come on. Ethanol Spill. The brunt of the kill appears to have been from near Grand Detour to Prophetstown, a 53.6-mile stretch of the river. But dead fish have been spotted in a five-county stretch of river from Rockford to the Quad Cities.
for something like this that is affecting the community so much, very little is being reported on this. what type of health hazard is this for people that are near the river? everyone thinks it is from the train.
Now I happen to live in Australia, so dont know the area... But YES this would have caused the fish to die with the fuel that was on the train.... Tho one thing I gotta admit, one good way to clean up the carp's.
BoTMSapper 11 months ago
Seagulls are smarter than the Americans they know not to eat the fish as Americans eat what- ever the government feeds them and too weak to do anything about it. Obamanation of the Americants as they are lead to the slater house by the ruler Obama. Wake up America your under siege
411American 1 year ago
someone probaley just farted in the river
ellisbud222 1 year ago
wow were all those fish asian carps?
lordlong 1 year ago
@lordlong i thought they were carp but some people said buffalo i am not sure
Cube11679 1 year ago
Cube11679, you don't say just where on the river you made your video.
FYI everybody, the effluent from the train fire flows into the Kishwaukee River on south Perryville RD, which in turn flows into the Rock River south of the Rockford (RKFD) airport.
ses6239 2 years ago
rock falls il is were my video is the train is what people were saying caused it thats why it's labeled did rockford il train derailment effect fish i was and still am waiting for the answer
Cube11679 2 years ago
If the derailment didn't happen, do you think people would be saying it was the nuclear plant?
Excalibur1201 2 years ago
Pesticides from farmers. The train derailment was just an easy thing to blame. There werent any dead fish found north of grand detour. If it happened here in Rockford, there would be dead fish in Rockford. Fishing for me has been great this year and havent noticed any major changes. I even fished the blamed "Kill Zone" on the Kish and had the same luck Ive had for the past 15 years. So before you go blaming the train, look at all the farmers and pig farms and remember, they use checmicals too.
midfishing815 2 years ago
you can blame farmers but if thats the case why hasn't it happened before? and why did it only happen for a short period of time. also buy the time june all the chemicals that farmers use would of all ready been gone or how ever you want to put it(used up) and like like the next comment down says about the ethonal being deluted the same would go for the spray chemicals. so before you go blaming farmers consider that
jdtech21089 2 years ago
@jdtech21089 It has happened before. I've seen similar mass die offs several times in the past 10 years, and that's just in Byron.
Ethanol isn't that toxic -- it's essentially drinking alcohol. Thousands of gallons might sound like a lot, but for a river it's just a drop in the bucket. By the time it reached the river it would be too dilute to do any harm.
mllawso1 2 years ago
I live in Rockford and fish 4 out of 7 days a week on the Rock and Kishwaukee Rivers. NOT 1 FISH was reported dead in this area. Ive spoken with 3 DNR officers and they say the same thing. This fish kill was not caused by the train. It was more then likely caused by pesticides and other chemicals further down south being washed into the river systems by all the rain. The ethonal would of been so deluted from all the water that by the time it hit the river, it wouldnt of been toxic.
midfishing815 2 years ago
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midfishing815 2 years ago
Look at the darker colored fish at the 1:18 mark. It looks like a salmonid species. Strange.
chitownvet 2 years ago
omfg that is a massive ammount of fish that was killed i am shocked.. i hope that nobody was there and got the fish to take home that would be bad
minawa21 2 years ago
I have fished here for many years. These are mostly carp (cyprinus carpio) and also smallmouth buffalo. It's not that difficult to tell the difference. Both are commercially fished on the Rock. There is also a small fish called a quillback carpsucker that you'll run into occasionally. Thanks Eric for these sad but informational videos.
blindtcjohnson 2 years ago
Carp/Smallmouth Buffalo what ever they are its alot i'm not an expert plus there was all sorts of different fish
Cube11679 2 years ago
Them are carp idiot
Cigaro1887 2 years ago 2
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blindtcjohnson 2 years ago
Utter disgrace! This eco disaster is HUGE. DNR reports nothing on their website about this. Only local news coverage. Amazing how I'm still informing people about this - they had no idea. The river is shot. I've fished it for years and have never seen anything like it. Sometimes shad die along the banks after the ice melts but this is way different. This needs to be investigated and we have to demand answers. Don't give up.
erikhicks07 2 years ago 5
id like to go back about 200 years before man started pointing all its drains at our rivers and see how clean the fish are. you couldnt pay me to eat anything out of the rock, maybe kilbuck creek but not the rock or pec or sugar or kish. pierce is a man made lake full of farm runoff from boone co. we trashed the midwest. boo!
jahovahut 2 years ago
saw a fish jump in the river tonight and I just about cheered. at least there is one still alive.
backspace99999 2 years ago
Scotts my hero
YFZrippin 2 years ago
Still Smelled them tonight
Cube11679 2 years ago
it is better though. Tomorrow the water testing should be done and a press release should be given. I hope Canadian National pays for this and the money is put back into restocking the river. probably won't happen, but it should.
backspace99999 2 years ago
oh damn
DamevsDame 2 years ago
I don't think ethanol killed them. Ethanol is extremely water-soluble and I remember a train accident in Pennsylvania a few years back that had tanks full of ethanol actually derail into a river & there was no reports of a fish-kill. Who knows, may be wrong. Were there reports of any other chemicals on that train?
kingsinep 2 years ago
Forgot to add rapid Heat changes in water could also stress carp and possibly other fish. Just my theory.
poozle1 2 years ago
This is actually from loss of oxygen from
all the run off from the recent heavy rains. While the carp are spawning their stress levels are very high and need high levels of oxygen.. No worries tree huggers!
poozle1 2 years ago
there was alot of catfish also but people were taking them in my area plus a bunch of other species of fish not just carp
Cube11679 2 years ago
also i heard about dead turtles
Cube11679 2 years ago
poozle1-- the estimate is that 70,000 fish died and flowed down river. And that is a low estimate. Really this is terrible and a huge loss for the rock river which is incredibly beautiful and known for great fishing. My question is why did the fish start floating at Grand Detour when the spill happened in Rockford.
backspace99999 2 years ago
Tree huggers? I wish you were right. Walleyes, Smallies, and Gar have been found. 50 pound cats. It was the spill. Fish found in the Hundreds of Thousands, DNR have confirmed. But then again they are not experts right...? Come on. Ethanol Spill. The brunt of the kill appears to have been from near Grand Detour to Prophetstown, a 53.6-mile stretch of the river. But dead fish have been spotted in a five-county stretch of river from Rockford to the Quad Cities.
twadeb 2 years ago
Thousands of fish flowing down the river. It will take years for the river to get back to normal. This is terrible.
backspace99999 2 years ago
this messed us up bad gonna take awhile 4 our rock to rebuild sad !!!!!
garbagepalkid 2 years ago
this is fucked up no more fishing here!!!!!!!
omrondk 2 years ago
this needs to be reported.
cocont17 2 years ago
Considering that primary drainage from the derailment site is East into the Kishwaukee at Cherry Valley, this is very doubtful.
zoomustard 2 years ago
i agree with u totally
redheadmandi 2 years ago
for something like this that is affecting the community so much, very little is being reported on this. what type of health hazard is this for people that are near the river? everyone thinks it is from the train.
backspace99999 2 years ago
i also don't think it was the train wreck grand detour is a good 20 miles from rockford
jrbr92 2 years ago