I'm an Australian and have travelled a bit. Innevitably when staying hostels, you'll come across some stupid brit who'll call you a convict. Now my response will be, ' You can keep the shitty food and the shitty weather, we'll take the great barrier reef and lobsters the size of canoes. I'll be Jack the Ripper for that.' Genius.
i wonder if that counts as proof if u send convicts and outcasts to an island and they mate and multiply within themselves it doesnt make a generation of more convicts...does that mean that crime is a cultural thing and not genetic?
@44eelz Yes, crime is down to circumstance, environment, education, society, upbringing etc etc. It will never be down to genetics....try telling that to the racists though.
@goldentony111 Hardly. Aberrant behavior IS down to genetics. What you apparently don't know about genetics is that there are many unexpressed traits in a child's parents. Criminals can have good kids and good parents can have criminal kids. That's just how it is. Genetics is real and indomitable.
@rogerpemberton Clearly you are the one who doesn't understand what genetics means; seeing as how you just basically agreed with what I said and then disagreed...but with no basis. No geneticist will ever say that crime is down to genetics; it simply isn't what genetics is about and your mess of an answer, that made no sense, was a waste of your time and a waste of my time reading and replying to a non-argument. You seem to think I was saying that genetics doesn't exist, just weird?!?
@goldentony111 You've chosen the standard tactic of the uninformed and ignorant. You either can't read or you are pathologically dishonest. This may be why you make excuses for messed up people.
@goldentony111 Not disagreeing with you, but it is quite complex...I'm sure there are many variables that come into play and a lot of it is speculation. Some might argue that personality is partly determined by genetics, which can influence behavior.
@KittyzKatterz I'm not angry. It isn't down to genetics either, only half of the emotionality issues are generally inherited from parents; and that is more down to environment and upbringing than a pre-programmed genetic function. Genetics is not studied to explain behavioural or emotional issues but more the molecular structure and traits that make something what it is; whether it be human, plant or animal. It isn't a handy tool to say certain people will fail or certain people will be angry
@goldentony111 That is why I said "can". And I never said that you were angry, unless you are implying that your family is known to being angry- Such as your father/mother...
@KittyzKatterz I inferred that you were implying I was angry because you raised anger; I'm not quite sure why else you would raise anger as an issue when you could have just said emotion. Even saying anger issues can be genetic isn't correct though, the emotionality of anger is more likely inherited from parental stimuli or any other peer but certainly isn't genetic. It's like saying you are right wing because of genetics rather than because your parents influenced you to do so.
@goldentony111 No, it's more like comparing it to the inheritance of the likely-hood of being an alcoholic. Committing a crime can be caused by anger. That was what I was referring too originally..."raised anger" you mean brought up the topic of anger*. And it's almost like saying that if someone were to have PTSD, they couldn't possibly have emotional problems, such as depression, outbursts of anger, and being withdrawn. It all involves the brain.
@KittyzKatterz Oh, you've resorted to solecism now have you? In which case maybe I should mention your use of "too" instead of "to" or that "likelihood" isn't hyphenated? You aren't talking about genetics, you are talking about behaviour & emotionality. Definition of genetics just for you:
"The study of heredity & the variation of inherited characteristics."
PTSD isn't inherited, it is caused by something traumatic. Similarly if your parent is an alcoholic it isn't in your genes to be one.
@goldentony111 Lol you're getting way too offended. Which I'm not surprised. I know PTSD isn't inherited. It's a disorder and it's self explanatory. Post-traumatic stress disorder. Happens mostly to veterans in battle (mostly from bombs). That to was a typo btw...No, I just corrected you because your way of "speaking" is confusing as hell. My last statement should have explained all of that. It all involves the brain. Which *cough* characteristics of the brain are inherited. That is my point.
@KittyzKatterz You don't have a point, and patronising me won't make it a point. Your initial point was that anger was genetic; it isn't. You then said it was about inheritance and the brain; it isn't. Now you are changing your "argument" once again to suggest it is to do with neuro transmissions and that is correct (at last). Ergo, it is nothing to do with genetics; it is to do with how your brain develops & the many circumstances that condition it. I corrected your typo as you did mine.
@goldentony111 Excuse me. Inheritance and genetics are practically the same thing. Inheriting something through your family genetics *facepalm*. And it was not a typo, sir, that was seriously how you were speaking, and I was just assuming that you honestly were confused on how to communicate the statement you were trying to express. Then how about this: How do you explain the inheritance, the GENETICS of a person's chances of being an alcoholic, eh?
@goldentony111 Excuse me. Inheritance and genetics are practically the same thing. Inheriting something through your family genetics *facepalm*. And it was not a typo, sir, that was seriously how you were speaking, and I was just assuming that you honestly were confused on how to communicate the statement you were trying to express. Then how about this: How do you explain the inheritance, the GENETICS of a person's chances of being an alcoholic, eh?
@goldentony111 And btw- I'm not disagreeing the fact that environment or the way that someone was raised could cause someone to be an angry person and be driven to commit crimes. That is obviously the fact in most cases. "only half of the emotionality issues are generally inherited from parents" You admitted it to yourself. So please. Stop getting so worked up and actually communicate. You're getting so worked up, it's kind of making me giggle a bit.
@KittyzKatterz I'm not worked up, I'm just dismayed at your bizarre behaviour to be honest. If you're going to quote me please do it in context rather than cherry picking a sentence to mean what you want it to mean. I said emotionality issues were derived from the parental attitude & influence; how supportive or aloof the parents are & their norms & customs....as with tribes. This isn't genetic, I'm communicating fine; the issue is your ability to understand.
@KittyzKatterz I'm not worked up, I'm just dismayed at your bizarre behaviour to be honest. If you're going to quote me please do it in context rather than cherry picking a sentence to mean what you want it to mean. I said emotionality issues were derived from the parental attitude & influence; how supportive or aloof the parents are & their norms & customs....as with tribes. This isn't genetic, I'm communicating fine; the issue is your ability to understand.
@goldentony111 Being honest? I was making points of my own observation; basis from my own family and what I've come to understand. For one, I quoted you AFTER replying many times already, so I don't see how I was dishonest anywhere in my comments, considering I agreed with you partially. For two...That is what you said, there was no cherry picking, it's a pretty straight forward statement so...I don't think I'm the one being "dishonest" here...
@goldentony111 My "bizarre" behavior? So that is why you insist on commenting to people with such a cocky, overbearing, (obviously shaken up) manner. So mister hot-shot...As far as this "ability to understand" I think you need to learn how to comprehend a bit of critical thinking, not only that, but how to communicate as well. Oh god knows that this is over the internet, but please, have a bit of character. I doubt you're really as "intellectually superior" as you're trying to seem. Cut the bull
@KittyzKatterz I've never claimed to be "intellectually superior" or even particularly intelligent, if you inferred that then that is your issue and not mine. I'm neither cocky nor overbearing, but if you make stupid comments that are erroneous then expect to be questioned about them; remember you are the one who came here playing the big shot about a subject you know nothing about. I've already shown this in my previous comments & your furious backpedalling. Case closed.
@goldentony111 Mmm yes, I think your lack of comprehension is really getting low sir...I never said that you claimed that you were. Your comments obviously reflect that you think you are. You're cocky, it doesn't matter if you think you are or not. Trust someone else' perspective than your own. You're an asshole, trust me.
@KittyzKatterz Ha ha, I'm not golden but you're certainly a cat....look at you clawing away like all good trolls do. I'm not cocky in the slightest, I just admitted I'm not intelligent; I hardly think a cocky person would do that. Surely you are cocky for your insistence that you are right and your opinion overrules anyone elses? If you want petty squabbles stick to the playground.
@goldentony111 Think of yourself as, a huge, cocky asshole that loves to make himself out to be a hypocrite. Yes- That sounds about right. Thanks for showing more your true colors dude. I just love the aggressive nature of your replies, can't just start out a debate in a friendly manner can ya'? Aw just admit it....You're not as intelligent as you really think you are. Failed to impress me. At least you have good taste in videos. Too bad you're just a douche :'(
@KittyzKatterz So hang on, I'm back to being dumb again. You're flailing wildly here, save what little dignity you have please. I've done nothing wrong here other than question you, apparently I'm not allowed to do this? I'm not trying to impress you, your opinion of me is not something I care about...and as for aggressive, who was it who was throwing personal insults, me or you? I've been completely calm and tolerant of your contradictory ramblings.
@KittyzKatterz So hang on, I'm back to being dumb again. You're flailing wildly here, save what little dignity you have please. I've done nothing wrong here other than question you, apparently I'm not allowed to do this? I'm not trying to impress you, your opinion of me is not something I care about...and as for aggressive, who was it who was throwing personal insults, me or you? I've been completely calm and tolerant of your contradictory ramblings.
@KittyzKatterz You're overreacting twinkletoes; take a deep breath, calm down and think about it. Is this really that important to you? It's only a video, you're making unnecessary enemies but it won't work; I don't hate you in the slightest or think anything bad of you. See? Not so bad is it? Now give me a smile!
@KittyzKatterz When I said half of emotionality issues, I meant half of what people put down to emotionality issues aren't emotionality but are genetic issues such as stamina or bodily abilities and functions etc.
@goldentony111 Anger is an emotion. That comes into context with "emotionality issues". Which can be genetic. Let me emphasize so you can comprehend...'CAN'. Which, you are correct, it is half of the problem - It's not always environment, or the way someone was raised. If you still insist on denying this, then you're just a moronic asshole on a power parade. I don't think you're "golden" I think you're more of a rusty piss color from what you've presented to me.
@KittyzKatterz ...and out comes your true character eh? To think you had a go at me for being supposedly angry or uptight but I never resorted to childish insults. No, I said half of what are called emotionality issues aren't but are genetics; that doesn't mean half of emotionality issues are genetic as I just said they aren't emotionality issues. So it isn't anything to do with emotions like anger; I'm on no power parade twinkle toes.
May I suggest you take a cold shower or something?
@goldentony111 Lol I wasn't even the one that started the heat between us. I think you need to reflect on your attitude; the way you comment in such an aggressive, uptight manner. As soon as someone comments, your fingers start dancing away, obviously trying to "one-up" the other guy. You're intentionally replying to people like that. As if you actually expect people to not reply back in the same aggressive manner. Don't play dumb, smart ass ;).
@KittyzKatterz Make up your mind twinkle toes, one minute I'm dumb the next I'm not, one minute anger is down to genetics, the next it's not...and now apparently I'm aggressive when you were the one raging at me and calling me rusty piss and arsehole etc. Are you aware of how you are coming across here? I'm not aggressive at all, if someone makes erroneous comments I'll question them on it though, as with you and the other fellah. Both you & him commented first, and both got aggressive first.
@azmanabdula Love Australians!! Even if we got beaten by them in Rugby today/ or was it yesterday. Not sure of the time zone over there. Anyways, much love from Wales :)
Obviously you have neither an education in genetics or psychology. Definiencies in the pre-frontal cortex; the executive decision making area of the brain has a positive correlation with negative child rearing and highly prevelent violent crimes and antisocial personality compared to someone in the same environmental upbringing with no definiencies to their pre frontal cortex. The emotional outbursts are due to progressions in the control of the amydala, and none from PFC.
@ajnode In your pompous, ill thought desperation to seem like the archetypal know-it-all you seem to have had trouble understanding the basic premise of what I was saying, seeing as you are basically agreeing with me...albeit unwittingly. Violent crimes or antisocial personality are to do with many different facets, none of which are genetic, you have supported this by saying it is down to child rearing & deficiencies; neither of which are inherited or genetic. "Progression" isn't genetic.
If you use the word "albeit" you cannot claim anyone else is attempting to sound 'pompous' and like the achetype of a know it all.
AND NO I DIDN'T AGREE WITH YOU, you stupid cunt. I am on the side of there being a LARGE influence of genetics on violent crimes and antisocial personality disorder developing. Deficiences doesn't mean there is an AFTER THE FACT LACK of something, it is something people are born with, a characteristic FROM A PARENT... So yes, genetic, cockhead.
@ajnode Ooh, temper! Your anger is misplaced, you aren't angry at me but at yourself because you are clearly wrong & have no support from the scientific community for your bizarre notion that there is a "large" influence of genetics on crime; it's nothing to do with genetics, the very point you made was about development & you even contradicted yourself by saying a good upbringing had a positive affect on a deficiency. It's tenuous to equate a deficiency with crime, hence why you can't do it.
@ajnode Please do point me towards some scientific journals or sources from respected geneticists that support your claim that a tendency towards crime is genetic though...I would love to see respected scholars say they can spot a future criminal from their DNA construct. You made yourself look even more stupid with your foul mouthed tirade, a sure sign you know you are a silly little boy. Albeit is a perfectly normal & every day word, nothing pompous about it all; most people use it.
Okay; I'm a psych grad and nothing you say is consistant with commonly held theories from massive branches of cognitive psychology. The entire NATURE side of the nature v nurture (thats psych ONE OH FUCKING ONE) agrees with me with regards to GENETIC PREDISPOSITION. I stopped reading however, when you said "hence why"... HENCE WHY?! WHAT ARE YOU, FIVE YEARS OLD? "Hence" = Therefore. WHY = WHY. "THEREFORE WHY" Makes no sense, that error is something my 5 yr old bro would make.
@ajnode Ha ha, shut up you daft twat, you're just making an even bigger fool of yourself by throwing your little tantrums. You have misunderstood the whole debate on here that caused the others to flee. NO respected geneticist, anthropologist or scientist will ever agree with your laughable notion that a defect in the brain is a genetic cause for crime. Plenty of people with defects have a loving upbringing & do not then resort to crime; it's dependent on many different factors; not genetics.
@ajnode As for picking holes in grammar, it's a perfectly acceptable phrase; ok, it's not widely recognised in scholarly circles but is quite acceptable colloquially. Is that the best you can do? You made a dick of yourself in failing to have an adult conversation without soiling yourself and so pick holes in grammar as if that means anything. Typing sentences in capitals is meaningless, if you want to stress a point it should be in italics you deranged gibbon.
Den wot do yew meen itz wydly excepted inz serkells? I'm sure that shit is widely accepted in colloqial circles too, that doesn't make it right - and unfortunately for you, you're in a position where you are expected to type correctly if you want to be taken seriously. Okay... Youtube doesn't have italics, so emphasis is on CAPITALS. I know plenty of scientists that would agree on the influence of genetics - that is what all biological life relies on up to this point, dumb fuck.
@ajnode There's something deeply wrong with you, are you incapable of acting human? You were incredibly rude & obnoxious from the get go; although I see it is a regular pattern of yours from your channel comments. I don't care if you take me seriously, I don't need to impress a simpleton who can't grasp the fundamentals of genetics. I didn't discount the validity or influence of genetics you oaf, I said that genetics has no bearing on crime; you still don't seem to be able to grasp this.
@ajnode You seem to think I should want to court the approval of a pompous prick who still can't understand what was being debated on here, you're just making an idiot of yourself every time your hooves hit the enter key. I can only assume you have some kind of deficiency as you are unable to communicate like an adult...are you trying to justify your own antisocial behaviour? Do you get kicks from obnoxious to people? Go and do it elsewhere.
Yes, I'm fully aware that your puny brain was unable to understand that genetics has an influence on crime. I will say however, that I find it funny that you can believe genetics has an influence on many other things that develop in someones personality - but not the prevelance of crime? Since the notion that crime is committed more by individuals with deficiencies in their PFC doesn't seem to resonate with you at all... What education in genetics do you HAVE exactly?
@ajnode Genetics doesn't have an influence on crime, if what you posit as fact is true think of the implications it would have in preventing crime. I never said that genetics has an influence in anything related to personality; if that's your inference then you are even thicker than you have already made yourself appear. My initial point (which you keep ignoring) was that genetics doesn't determine your character; are you sure you even know what genetics is? Get a human to look it up for you.
@ajnode In your initial pompous waffle you stated that people with deficiencies and a positive upbringing didn't commit crime; that goes against your whole point you moron. Now you say it doesn't dictate crime but just influences is already a backdown from your initial drivel. Behaviour and personality are shaped by environment, education, peers, social status, wealth, lack of emotional care etc etc...it isn't in your genes whether you will be a bad person or not. Get lost you utter idiot.
@ajnode Maybe you should think and read what the discussion is about before you try and patronise someone; your arrogance clouded your better judgement in this case.
@goldentony111 "The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American's freedom and before I leave office, I must inform the citizen of this plight."
@goldentony111 Michael Tsarion is the worlds premier conspiracy researcher/lecturer/author. Leo Zagami, Jordan Maxwell and Alexandre Dumas pere are highly informative as well. p.s. Melting Euphoria is similar to Ozric Tentacles and Gong.
@goldentony111 Alexandre Dumas pere wrote over 400 historical novels exposing world tyranny(Roman Catholic Empire). He was born near Paris in 1802 and 'coincidentally' in 1902 the Society of Jesus(Jesuits) were expelled from France for the 3rd and last time. The Society of Jesus(Jesuits) have been expelled from 83 countries, city states and cities and their pope is ARAMIS AND HE IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE COUNT OF MONTE CHRISTO(GENERAL OF THE JESUITS).
@44eelz it was only the first few immigrants that were convicts. it wasn't long before regular immigrant and ex-convicts told the british to stop sending convicts (which depressed wages), so they stopped. Australia was basically built on regular British immigrants who were tricked/bribed into coming to Australia rather than the US
@44eelz I think you also have to take into account the fact that the people sent to australia were sent there for things like stealing a loaf of bread for their starving family. (sorry for the cliche example) haha. but you know what i mean. some murderers too obviously. but not all inherently bad people.
@44eelz Well don't forget the gold rush. That bought some very motivated hard working inventive entrepreneurs from all walks of life down here too. But your kinda right given many convicts went on to become very wealthy and influential people. Some of their families still are.
Mind you, a bad Aussie can be a very bad man indeed.
Bloody nice place to live though. I have felt blessed all my life for living here.
@44eelz it all comes down to life experiences/how you were raised and how your thought process works. A lot of people who come from families of crime (small time) look at their family as an example of what not to be. Others, usually play victim, becomes adaptive to what they see and they will become something they always despised. So technically speaking, Their excuses become their answers.
Trust me Being sent to Australia is a fucking punishment!!
ashtongrist 1 day ago
no apology necessary, i dig the poor quality...
TheNickmercier 1 day ago
Im aussie and i wish i was old enough to see this great man when he would tour our country. WHYYYYY DID U HAVE TO GO BILL WHYYYYY.
Tukkerjr 3 days ago
Ahh Bill...this Aussie misses ya.
Geekman333 1 week ago
He was close to to death filming this.
Nautilus1972 2 months ago
Bill must be the only comic on you-tube that has debates on nature versus nature in the comments section!! what a tribute!
petehutcheon 3 months ago
I'm an Australian and have travelled a bit. Innevitably when staying hostels, you'll come across some stupid brit who'll call you a convict. Now my response will be, ' You can keep the shitty food and the shitty weather, we'll take the great barrier reef and lobsters the size of canoes. I'll be Jack the Ripper for that.' Genius.
rumblefish85 3 months ago 2
@rumblefish85 Shitty weather, yes. Shitty food, no.
SgtPepperEverton 2 months ago
Fantastic thanks for posting.
reasland 4 months ago
damn he looks thin here
pigeonpsycho 5 months ago
They sent us here to Australia coz you American's said "don't send anymore convicts here" to the English...that's why we Aussies love Americans!
skwijeebob1 5 months ago
@skwijeebob1 I hate most Americans
cranee999 5 months ago
@cranee999 cept Bill Hicks
cranee999 5 months ago
I wish I could be sent to an isolated island paradise for commiting a crime
Anon371 6 months ago
@Anon371 don't worry, you will be soon. Guantanamo is still open.
darbone 5 months ago
i love finding clips of Bill hicks that i haven't seen before. It's not easy, but worth the effort
rwtj01 7 months ago 2
its depressing watching him when he is dying but ur still funny as fuck bill
TitusUSA10 7 months ago
It's good to know that he liked Australia (as far as the scenery goes).
Rampagge1 8 months ago
i wonder if that counts as proof if u send convicts and outcasts to an island and they mate and multiply within themselves it doesnt make a generation of more convicts...does that mean that crime is a cultural thing and not genetic?
44eelz 1 year ago 6
@44eelz Yes, crime is down to circumstance, environment, education, society, upbringing etc etc. It will never be down to genetics....try telling that to the racists though.
goldentony111 1 year ago 24
@goldentony111 Hardly. Aberrant behavior IS down to genetics. What you apparently don't know about genetics is that there are many unexpressed traits in a child's parents. Criminals can have good kids and good parents can have criminal kids. That's just how it is. Genetics is real and indomitable.
rogerpemberton 7 months ago
@rogerpemberton Clearly you are the one who doesn't understand what genetics means; seeing as how you just basically agreed with what I said and then disagreed...but with no basis. No geneticist will ever say that crime is down to genetics; it simply isn't what genetics is about and your mess of an answer, that made no sense, was a waste of your time and a waste of my time reading and replying to a non-argument. You seem to think I was saying that genetics doesn't exist, just weird?!?
goldentony111 7 months ago 15
@goldentony111 You've chosen the standard tactic of the uninformed and ignorant. You either can't read or you are pathologically dishonest. This may be why you make excuses for messed up people.
rogerpemberton 7 months ago
@goldentony111 Not disagreeing with you, but it is quite complex...I'm sure there are many variables that come into play and a lot of it is speculation. Some might argue that personality is partly determined by genetics, which can influence behavior.
LighterOfDewbies 6 months ago
@LighterOfDewbies personality has nothing to do with genetics, and i did realise you said "Some might argue" but i'm just saying :P
ezelouie 6 months ago
@ezelouie Id say personality is somehow related to genetics
LighterOfDewbies 6 months ago
@goldentony111 Having anger issues can be a genetic thing. Just saying.
KittyzKatterz 5 months ago
@KittyzKatterz I'm not angry. It isn't down to genetics either, only half of the emotionality issues are generally inherited from parents; and that is more down to environment and upbringing than a pre-programmed genetic function. Genetics is not studied to explain behavioural or emotional issues but more the molecular structure and traits that make something what it is; whether it be human, plant or animal. It isn't a handy tool to say certain people will fail or certain people will be angry
goldentony111 5 months ago
@goldentony111 That is why I said "can". And I never said that you were angry, unless you are implying that your family is known to being angry- Such as your father/mother...
KittyzKatterz 5 months ago
@KittyzKatterz I inferred that you were implying I was angry because you raised anger; I'm not quite sure why else you would raise anger as an issue when you could have just said emotion. Even saying anger issues can be genetic isn't correct though, the emotionality of anger is more likely inherited from parental stimuli or any other peer but certainly isn't genetic. It's like saying you are right wing because of genetics rather than because your parents influenced you to do so.
goldentony111 5 months ago
@goldentony111 No, it's more like comparing it to the inheritance of the likely-hood of being an alcoholic. Committing a crime can be caused by anger. That was what I was referring too originally..."raised anger" you mean brought up the topic of anger*. And it's almost like saying that if someone were to have PTSD, they couldn't possibly have emotional problems, such as depression, outbursts of anger, and being withdrawn. It all involves the brain.
KittyzKatterz 5 months ago
@KittyzKatterz Oh, you've resorted to solecism now have you? In which case maybe I should mention your use of "too" instead of "to" or that "likelihood" isn't hyphenated? You aren't talking about genetics, you are talking about behaviour & emotionality. Definition of genetics just for you:
"The study of heredity & the variation of inherited characteristics."
PTSD isn't inherited, it is caused by something traumatic. Similarly if your parent is an alcoholic it isn't in your genes to be one.
goldentony111 5 months ago
@goldentony111 Lol you're getting way too offended. Which I'm not surprised. I know PTSD isn't inherited. It's a disorder and it's self explanatory. Post-traumatic stress disorder. Happens mostly to veterans in battle (mostly from bombs). That to was a typo btw...No, I just corrected you because your way of "speaking" is confusing as hell. My last statement should have explained all of that. It all involves the brain. Which *cough* characteristics of the brain are inherited. That is my point.
KittyzKatterz 5 months ago
@KittyzKatterz You don't have a point, and patronising me won't make it a point. Your initial point was that anger was genetic; it isn't. You then said it was about inheritance and the brain; it isn't. Now you are changing your "argument" once again to suggest it is to do with neuro transmissions and that is correct (at last). Ergo, it is nothing to do with genetics; it is to do with how your brain develops & the many circumstances that condition it. I corrected your typo as you did mine.
goldentony111 5 months ago
@goldentony111 Excuse me. Inheritance and genetics are practically the same thing. Inheriting something through your family genetics *facepalm*. And it was not a typo, sir, that was seriously how you were speaking, and I was just assuming that you honestly were confused on how to communicate the statement you were trying to express. Then how about this: How do you explain the inheritance, the GENETICS of a person's chances of being an alcoholic, eh?
KittyzKatterz 5 months ago
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@goldentony111 Excuse me. Inheritance and genetics are practically the same thing. Inheriting something through your family genetics *facepalm*. And it was not a typo, sir, that was seriously how you were speaking, and I was just assuming that you honestly were confused on how to communicate the statement you were trying to express. Then how about this: How do you explain the inheritance, the GENETICS of a person's chances of being an alcoholic, eh?
KittyzKatterz 5 months ago
@goldentony111 And btw- I'm not disagreeing the fact that environment or the way that someone was raised could cause someone to be an angry person and be driven to commit crimes. That is obviously the fact in most cases. "only half of the emotionality issues are generally inherited from parents" You admitted it to yourself. So please. Stop getting so worked up and actually communicate. You're getting so worked up, it's kind of making me giggle a bit.
KittyzKatterz 5 months ago
@KittyzKatterz I'm not worked up, I'm just dismayed at your bizarre behaviour to be honest. If you're going to quote me please do it in context rather than cherry picking a sentence to mean what you want it to mean. I said emotionality issues were derived from the parental attitude & influence; how supportive or aloof the parents are & their norms & customs....as with tribes. This isn't genetic, I'm communicating fine; the issue is your ability to understand.
goldentony111 5 months ago
@KittyzKatterz I'm not worked up, I'm just dismayed at your bizarre behaviour to be honest. If you're going to quote me please do it in context rather than cherry picking a sentence to mean what you want it to mean. I said emotionality issues were derived from the parental attitude & influence; how supportive or aloof the parents are & their norms & customs....as with tribes. This isn't genetic, I'm communicating fine; the issue is your ability to understand.
goldentony111 5 months ago
@goldentony111 Being honest? I was making points of my own observation; basis from my own family and what I've come to understand. For one, I quoted you AFTER replying many times already, so I don't see how I was dishonest anywhere in my comments, considering I agreed with you partially. For two...That is what you said, there was no cherry picking, it's a pretty straight forward statement so...I don't think I'm the one being "dishonest" here...
KittyzKatterz 5 months ago
@goldentony111 My "bizarre" behavior? So that is why you insist on commenting to people with such a cocky, overbearing, (obviously shaken up) manner. So mister hot-shot...As far as this "ability to understand" I think you need to learn how to comprehend a bit of critical thinking, not only that, but how to communicate as well. Oh god knows that this is over the internet, but please, have a bit of character. I doubt you're really as "intellectually superior" as you're trying to seem. Cut the bull
KittyzKatterz 5 months ago
@KittyzKatterz I've never claimed to be "intellectually superior" or even particularly intelligent, if you inferred that then that is your issue and not mine. I'm neither cocky nor overbearing, but if you make stupid comments that are erroneous then expect to be questioned about them; remember you are the one who came here playing the big shot about a subject you know nothing about. I've already shown this in my previous comments & your furious backpedalling. Case closed.
goldentony111 5 months ago
@goldentony111 Mmm yes, I think your lack of comprehension is really getting low sir...I never said that you claimed that you were. Your comments obviously reflect that you think you are. You're cocky, it doesn't matter if you think you are or not. Trust someone else' perspective than your own. You're an asshole, trust me.
KittyzKatterz 5 months ago
@KittyzKatterz Ha ha, I'm not golden but you're certainly a cat....look at you clawing away like all good trolls do. I'm not cocky in the slightest, I just admitted I'm not intelligent; I hardly think a cocky person would do that. Surely you are cocky for your insistence that you are right and your opinion overrules anyone elses? If you want petty squabbles stick to the playground.
goldentony111 5 months ago
@goldentony111 Think of yourself as, a huge, cocky asshole that loves to make himself out to be a hypocrite. Yes- That sounds about right. Thanks for showing more your true colors dude. I just love the aggressive nature of your replies, can't just start out a debate in a friendly manner can ya'? Aw just admit it....You're not as intelligent as you really think you are. Failed to impress me. At least you have good taste in videos. Too bad you're just a douche :'(
KittyzKatterz 5 months ago
@KittyzKatterz So hang on, I'm back to being dumb again. You're flailing wildly here, save what little dignity you have please. I've done nothing wrong here other than question you, apparently I'm not allowed to do this? I'm not trying to impress you, your opinion of me is not something I care about...and as for aggressive, who was it who was throwing personal insults, me or you? I've been completely calm and tolerant of your contradictory ramblings.
goldentony111 5 months ago
@KittyzKatterz So hang on, I'm back to being dumb again. You're flailing wildly here, save what little dignity you have please. I've done nothing wrong here other than question you, apparently I'm not allowed to do this? I'm not trying to impress you, your opinion of me is not something I care about...and as for aggressive, who was it who was throwing personal insults, me or you? I've been completely calm and tolerant of your contradictory ramblings.
goldentony111 5 months ago
@KittyzKatterz You're overreacting twinkletoes; take a deep breath, calm down and think about it. Is this really that important to you? It's only a video, you're making unnecessary enemies but it won't work; I don't hate you in the slightest or think anything bad of you. See? Not so bad is it? Now give me a smile!
: )
goldentony111 5 months ago
@KittyzKatterz When I said half of emotionality issues, I meant half of what people put down to emotionality issues aren't emotionality but are genetic issues such as stamina or bodily abilities and functions etc.
goldentony111 5 months ago
@goldentony111 Anger is an emotion. That comes into context with "emotionality issues". Which can be genetic. Let me emphasize so you can comprehend...'CAN'. Which, you are correct, it is half of the problem - It's not always environment, or the way someone was raised. If you still insist on denying this, then you're just a moronic asshole on a power parade. I don't think you're "golden" I think you're more of a rusty piss color from what you've presented to me.
KittyzKatterz 5 months ago
@KittyzKatterz ...and out comes your true character eh? To think you had a go at me for being supposedly angry or uptight but I never resorted to childish insults. No, I said half of what are called emotionality issues aren't but are genetics; that doesn't mean half of emotionality issues are genetic as I just said they aren't emotionality issues. So it isn't anything to do with emotions like anger; I'm on no power parade twinkle toes.
May I suggest you take a cold shower or something?
goldentony111 5 months ago
@goldentony111 Lol I wasn't even the one that started the heat between us. I think you need to reflect on your attitude; the way you comment in such an aggressive, uptight manner. As soon as someone comments, your fingers start dancing away, obviously trying to "one-up" the other guy. You're intentionally replying to people like that. As if you actually expect people to not reply back in the same aggressive manner. Don't play dumb, smart ass ;).
KittyzKatterz 5 months ago
@KittyzKatterz Make up your mind twinkle toes, one minute I'm dumb the next I'm not, one minute anger is down to genetics, the next it's not...and now apparently I'm aggressive when you were the one raging at me and calling me rusty piss and arsehole etc. Are you aware of how you are coming across here? I'm not aggressive at all, if someone makes erroneous comments I'll question them on it though, as with you and the other fellah. Both you & him commented first, and both got aggressive first.
goldentony111 5 months ago
@goldentony111 funny how we were the criminals yet we were a country destined to ban guns.....
well thought out plan or coincidence?
anyways im glad i live in this country.....
AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!
azmanabdula 5 months ago 6
@azmanabdula Love Australians!! Even if we got beaten by them in Rugby today/ or was it yesterday. Not sure of the time zone over there. Anyways, much love from Wales :)
teletextpear 4 months ago
@teletextpear did wales lose....damn.....
GO WALES WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.....
lmao
cheers for the comment have a nice day mate....
azmanabdula 4 months ago
@goldentony111
Obviously you have neither an education in genetics or psychology. Definiencies in the pre-frontal cortex; the executive decision making area of the brain has a positive correlation with negative child rearing and highly prevelent violent crimes and antisocial personality compared to someone in the same environmental upbringing with no definiencies to their pre frontal cortex. The emotional outbursts are due to progressions in the control of the amydala, and none from PFC.
ajnode 4 months ago
@ajnode In your pompous, ill thought desperation to seem like the archetypal know-it-all you seem to have had trouble understanding the basic premise of what I was saying, seeing as you are basically agreeing with me...albeit unwittingly. Violent crimes or antisocial personality are to do with many different facets, none of which are genetic, you have supported this by saying it is down to child rearing & deficiencies; neither of which are inherited or genetic. "Progression" isn't genetic.
goldentony111 4 months ago
@goldentony111
If you use the word "albeit" you cannot claim anyone else is attempting to sound 'pompous' and like the achetype of a know it all.
AND NO I DIDN'T AGREE WITH YOU, you stupid cunt. I am on the side of there being a LARGE influence of genetics on violent crimes and antisocial personality disorder developing. Deficiences doesn't mean there is an AFTER THE FACT LACK of something, it is something people are born with, a characteristic FROM A PARENT... So yes, genetic, cockhead.
ajnode 4 months ago
@ajnode Ooh, temper! Your anger is misplaced, you aren't angry at me but at yourself because you are clearly wrong & have no support from the scientific community for your bizarre notion that there is a "large" influence of genetics on crime; it's nothing to do with genetics, the very point you made was about development & you even contradicted yourself by saying a good upbringing had a positive affect on a deficiency. It's tenuous to equate a deficiency with crime, hence why you can't do it.
goldentony111 4 months ago
@ajnode Please do point me towards some scientific journals or sources from respected geneticists that support your claim that a tendency towards crime is genetic though...I would love to see respected scholars say they can spot a future criminal from their DNA construct. You made yourself look even more stupid with your foul mouthed tirade, a sure sign you know you are a silly little boy. Albeit is a perfectly normal & every day word, nothing pompous about it all; most people use it.
goldentony111 4 months ago
@goldentony111
Okay; I'm a psych grad and nothing you say is consistant with commonly held theories from massive branches of cognitive psychology. The entire NATURE side of the nature v nurture (thats psych ONE OH FUCKING ONE) agrees with me with regards to GENETIC PREDISPOSITION. I stopped reading however, when you said "hence why"... HENCE WHY?! WHAT ARE YOU, FIVE YEARS OLD? "Hence" = Therefore. WHY = WHY. "THEREFORE WHY" Makes no sense, that error is something my 5 yr old bro would make.
ajnode 4 months ago
@ajnode Ha ha, shut up you daft twat, you're just making an even bigger fool of yourself by throwing your little tantrums. You have misunderstood the whole debate on here that caused the others to flee. NO respected geneticist, anthropologist or scientist will ever agree with your laughable notion that a defect in the brain is a genetic cause for crime. Plenty of people with defects have a loving upbringing & do not then resort to crime; it's dependent on many different factors; not genetics.
goldentony111 4 months ago
@ajnode As for picking holes in grammar, it's a perfectly acceptable phrase; ok, it's not widely recognised in scholarly circles but is quite acceptable colloquially. Is that the best you can do? You made a dick of yourself in failing to have an adult conversation without soiling yourself and so pick holes in grammar as if that means anything. Typing sentences in capitals is meaningless, if you want to stress a point it should be in italics you deranged gibbon.
goldentony111 4 months ago
@goldentony111
Den wot do yew meen itz wydly excepted inz serkells? I'm sure that shit is widely accepted in colloqial circles too, that doesn't make it right - and unfortunately for you, you're in a position where you are expected to type correctly if you want to be taken seriously. Okay... Youtube doesn't have italics, so emphasis is on CAPITALS. I know plenty of scientists that would agree on the influence of genetics - that is what all biological life relies on up to this point, dumb fuck.
ajnode 4 months ago
@ajnode There's something deeply wrong with you, are you incapable of acting human? You were incredibly rude & obnoxious from the get go; although I see it is a regular pattern of yours from your channel comments. I don't care if you take me seriously, I don't need to impress a simpleton who can't grasp the fundamentals of genetics. I didn't discount the validity or influence of genetics you oaf, I said that genetics has no bearing on crime; you still don't seem to be able to grasp this.
goldentony111 4 months ago
@ajnode You seem to think I should want to court the approval of a pompous prick who still can't understand what was being debated on here, you're just making an idiot of yourself every time your hooves hit the enter key. I can only assume you have some kind of deficiency as you are unable to communicate like an adult...are you trying to justify your own antisocial behaviour? Do you get kicks from obnoxious to people? Go and do it elsewhere.
goldentony111 4 months ago
@goldentony111
Yes, I'm fully aware that your puny brain was unable to understand that genetics has an influence on crime. I will say however, that I find it funny that you can believe genetics has an influence on many other things that develop in someones personality - but not the prevelance of crime? Since the notion that crime is committed more by individuals with deficiencies in their PFC doesn't seem to resonate with you at all... What education in genetics do you HAVE exactly?
ajnode 4 months ago
@ajnode Genetics doesn't have an influence on crime, if what you posit as fact is true think of the implications it would have in preventing crime. I never said that genetics has an influence in anything related to personality; if that's your inference then you are even thicker than you have already made yourself appear. My initial point (which you keep ignoring) was that genetics doesn't determine your character; are you sure you even know what genetics is? Get a human to look it up for you.
goldentony111 4 months ago
@ajnode In your initial pompous waffle you stated that people with deficiencies and a positive upbringing didn't commit crime; that goes against your whole point you moron. Now you say it doesn't dictate crime but just influences is already a backdown from your initial drivel. Behaviour and personality are shaped by environment, education, peers, social status, wealth, lack of emotional care etc etc...it isn't in your genes whether you will be a bad person or not. Get lost you utter idiot.
goldentony111 4 months ago
@ajnode Wow, you are one seriously thick fucker! Albeit a funny one!
chavrecycling 4 months ago
@ajnode Maybe you should think and read what the discussion is about before you try and patronise someone; your arrogance clouded your better judgement in this case.
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uriahheep108 3 months ago
@44eelz it was only the first few immigrants that were convicts. it wasn't long before regular immigrant and ex-convicts told the british to stop sending convicts (which depressed wages), so they stopped. Australia was basically built on regular British immigrants who were tricked/bribed into coming to Australia rather than the US
DRL337PhD 11 months ago
@44eelz Foucault would probably agree with you.
hulliscorrupt 8 months ago
@44eelz I think you also have to take into account the fact that the people sent to australia were sent there for things like stealing a loaf of bread for their starving family. (sorry for the cliche example) haha. but you know what i mean. some murderers too obviously. but not all inherently bad people.
jrib4 6 months ago
@44eelz Well don't forget the gold rush. That bought some very motivated hard working inventive entrepreneurs from all walks of life down here too. But your kinda right given many convicts went on to become very wealthy and influential people. Some of their families still are.
Mind you, a bad Aussie can be a very bad man indeed.
Bloody nice place to live though. I have felt blessed all my life for living here.
Loader2k 5 months ago
@44eelz it all comes down to life experiences/how you were raised and how your thought process works. A lot of people who come from families of crime (small time) look at their family as an example of what not to be. Others, usually play victim, becomes adaptive to what they see and they will become something they always despised. So technically speaking, Their excuses become their answers.
Munstallstodes 5 months ago
Clasic!
lovosazul 1 year ago