Dispatch: The Irish Bailout and Germany's Opportunity

[gary1632]

richiesking

1 it was 6 billion

and no i didnt forget it i didnt mention it because when your 110 billion in debt and growing 6 is a drop in the bucket and mate try not to use bad word on you tube

[Berelore]

the EU was a bad idea that is starting to rot

[gary1632]

im irish and i hate the way the germans are seen as villians that only really have there eyes on controling the whole eu in ireland we had idiots bankers stupid regulators and an incompident goverment and now where paying the price and our grand kids will pay it as well

i thank germany for giving us the loan without it hospitals close teachers walk out police stop enforceing the law ireland would become like a 3ed world

[EamonnKee]

@gary1632 The low interest rates at the root of the prob were designed to stimulate Germany after unification. We were brought into the monetary union because it was as much in German interest as anything else. If the DM was too high they would become uncompetitive. Low Punt would assist our exports.The EU/IMF loan is at a very high rate. Shame Germany won't sort out low rates now as they did when it suited themselves. Shame the EU central bank approved all our govt. & regulators did.

[patsybob]

The Irish property market was ridiculous, a bunch of badly often quite small and densely packed designed houses built in the middle of no where, with little demand and they expected them to sell...Yeah sounds like a property bubble to me! But then I'm no expert I have common sense!

[philyB08]

We need to walk away and go back to old money at first it will be rough but then our coinage will be as strong if not stronge than the British crown. These are private business debts, so we should just say fuck off you're not getting the money, what can they do?

[Plexpara]

what ever people here say.

i am german and i love ireland.we germans love this country.

its bad to see ireland in this situation.

if the britains leave,i hope ireland stay.

[patsybob]

@Plexpara Stay? Europe is not family,if Irish people want independence from Europe then they will fight like they have done for centuries. For all my cares, I say Europe can piss off, its economically enslaved my country to debts that the Irish people do not owe but are expected to pay. Why should millions suffer for the corruption of the banks? Its taking away our hospitals,schools,jobs,creatin­g poverty and causing emigration..."Oh just the Irish famine, the joy of being European!"

[richiesking]

@Plexpara the uk is not a member of the euro

[WishMonkeyscanskype]

Ireland ireland whatever happened to us??

[superhoops2432]

People have seen the REAL ADGENDA of the EU German France in trying to Control all of the Natural reources of Europe and the periphery countries.The mask has fallen now.Ironic the LISBON TREATY has caught Portugal itself in this mess.Barosso helps his country get a CHEAPER BETTER DEAL than Ireland in IMF/EU/ECB dealings.People like in Greece are correct in their actions.Years time Another bailout for Greece.What happens then.Election to be held in France NEXT YEAR and Le Pens Party MAY WIN

[Gontzal7]

I laugh at the statement "unfair competitive advantage", france and germany have a much better geographical location and better communications. A country in an island on the corner of europe has to do something different.

Plus nobody is preventing those countries from lowering their taxes is like complaining that the competition is offering better prices.

Germany is only loaning money to save their own banks who gambled on irish banks and the irish people pick up the bill.

[irishbankslave]

What a wonderful world. Ireland's misfortune is Germany's opportunity. The E.U. is well and truly dead. Ireland's only opportunity to grow their way out of this bank debt is to keep the foreign investment they have in the country. Never mind the fact that guarntees were given to not interfere with our corporation tax to secure a Yes vote on the 2ND Lisbon referendum. They don't like our independence! People in Ireland, Greece etc hate the E.U. and will NEVER give up their independence. RIP EU.

[EUrealitycheck1]

@irishbankslave Unfortunately Ireland,Greece,Portugal ve given up independence sovereignty from moment they gave up monetory sovereignty to the euro. quote from Rothschilds says, "Give me control of a nations money supply and i care not who makes their laws". Frankfurt/brussells now own those countries, particularly those being bailed out/put into billions euro debt. Only way to get freedom back is to come out of the euro most importantly, and if possible fight to come out of EU all together

[irishbankslave]

What a wonderful world. Ireland's misfortune is Germany's opportunity. The E.U. is well and truly dead. Ireland's only opportunity to grow their way out of this bank debt is to keep the foreign investment they have in the country. Never mind the fact that guarntees were given to not interfere with our corporation tax to secure a Yes vote on the 2ND Lisbon referndum. They don't like our independence! People in Ireland, Greece etc hate the E.U. and will NEVER give up their independence. RIP EU.

[graham640]

fuck germany europe and the imf they are all undemocratic bullies and invested their own moneys recklessly and now are screwing us the irish people to get their money back they are also more obsessed with their europe and their currency i have no respect for europe and what it stand for ALL OF YOU EUROPEANS ARE UNDEMOCRATIC IGNORANT BULLIES ROT IN HELL ALL OF YOU

[ger1ist]

Germany is becoming too strong and soon a lot of countries in the EU will lose their status as sovreign countries.

[HLecterPHD]

why they have such a boner for our corporate tax rate, ffs irelands a tiny tiny economy compared to the big countries. so a factory or two goes to ireland, so what, theres fuck all here in comparison, maybe its for the best.

[greenday1978]

@HLecterPHD it is not the job of a colony (like Ireland, Portugal or Greece) to compete with the metropole in industrial production. Colonies are there to provide a market for metropolitan produce, raw materials (like immigrants as cheap labor) and opurtunities for THEIR (not someone elses) capital to be invested (by owning formerly public companies or greek islands as an exemple).

[greenday1978]

@HLecterPHD When Ireland lowers the corporate tax it gives itself a chance of excaping this colonial logic (atracting investment from outside europe reduces irish dependence on europe, makes itself a competitor to european (please read french and german) business and makes itself more atractive to buyers from outside the EU for those public goods each country is being forced to sell (so again french and german companies have to pay better prices as they are competing to buy them with more peopl

[graham640]

germany and france are bullys just like all of europe is they want us to bail them out for their bad investments in irish banks they invested just as much money recklessly in ireland as anyone else did they are BULLYS AND COWARDS I HATE THEM ALL

[ALBIONTYKE]

@DutchEuropean You need to do far more research. Your own Royal Family along with my countries Royal Family are all in with the evil cartel. I have great respect for the Netherlands as I do for the Germans, but you are being manipulated by the Rothschild's & the rest of the cartel in their evil club. The Netherlands is no different to the UK, Germany, the USA, Canada, France ect ect. We are all ruled by the Zionists. Wake up & smell the coffee, the undemocratic EU is one step towards the NWO.

[ALBIONTYKE]

@DutchEuropean Portugal has fallen, next Spain & Italy. After that an EUSSR where we are all slaves to a united European government. Fiat money is not real money they just make as much as they want then pull the plug to take over. Same with Africa getting massive loans they know they will never pay back so they can rape the continent. Wait soon your country will join the rest in having to pay our yet more for the Latin countries in order to make us all poor & only a few of the elite very rich.

[badsign1980]

downgrading spain and portugal right after greece was a cheap shot by uk pound makers rothschild scum illuminati nwo, its like taking the fish and leaving only the salt, and then right after they started calling us piigs to downgrade our image in peoples psyche, its pretty disgusting how low these creatures get

[ALBIONTYKE]

@badsign1980 The Rothschilds scum are no friends of the British. They have destroyed our manufacturing base and lied to us when we voted to join Europe. We have also lost our fishing rights & decimated our fishing industry. They have bribed our politicians and those politicians who stand up to them lose their jobs & sometimes are even killed. the Rothschild's were involved in 9/11 - 7/7 and the murder of Princess Diana who knew too much. They murdered Robin Cook & Dr. Kelly & want an EUSSR

[AnotherCuppaCoffee]

According to economic analysts, the so-called "irish Bailout" will cost Ireland 30% of its GDP for many yrs, and 10% of its tax revenues for many yrs will go to paying just the interest on the IMF/ECB loan. All this cost imposed to pay the debts & bonds of a few privately owned Irish banks. In effect Ireland is bailing out German, UK and French banks. Why?

[bustertypsy]

@AnotherCuppaCoffee you are soo right.The greedy EU banks that pumped money into failed Anglo Irish Bank are being paid by the Irish people.Is this justified?Shame on Europe for allowing this to happen.Ireland will bring down the EU,and rightly so,if this situation does not change.When the banks were making billions,were the Irish people receiving cheques through their letter box's.........................­............................ab­solutely not!!!!! Banks........go fuck yourselves!!!!

[ALBIONTYKE]

@bustertypsy Ireland pull out of the EU and default. The original plan was to get your country into debt in order to bankrupt you & then control your sovereign status. All EU countries will eventually go the same way & then we have an EUSSR. Your country fought over 700 years for freedom against the British establishment & in a few short years a a few spineless Irish crooks have sold you country down the river. Fuck me Ireland you fought so hard in the past, why are people rolling over now ?

[Srd1126]

Freance is acting like some lazy union worker who gets upset because someone does more work for less pay, instead they should lower their own corporate tax rate.

[jackthelad101]

Germany got us into this mess lending our banks loads of money without any hesatation, fucking discracefull we should tell them all to fuck off

[NeaFrea]

61 - First law to re-organize the monetary system - in connection with Law No.: 67 - Endowment of the territorial authority of Greater Berlin with cash funds.

Furthermore, no German has the obligation to pay back putative debts with several places of billions or the interest for those, which a no more existing “Federal Republic of Germany” raised from whichever bank.

[eiremuzz]

@Slavko961234 , what a prick , go fuck yourself , is that your prison number or is it they amount of people who what to put you in a early grave after your username

[rw5791]

spain will break the back of the EU.It's time to forget about all this mult-cultural crap and get back to the basics.

Panzers,messershmidts,blitzkri­ek,killing and death.

god save england and deuthchland uber alles?

[Slavko961234]

Who cares it's only like 3 million motherfuckers with orange hair.

[bustertypsy]

@Slavko961234 You sound like a total retarded fool who was disowned by Russia.Maybe you have an identity crisis........

[kekvirag1]

Germ-any is a bloody zionist nazi state in Europe. The only way to control them if we support TURKEY fullEU membership. The germ-ans are fear from the Turkishs.

[AustrianAtheist]

It is called the European, not the African/Asian union.

Where does the EU stop? Do you want the EU to get involved in all the muslims problems (kurdistan, armenians)

The EU even know cannot find agreements, with Turkey it would be a nightmare. Neither the EU can handle Turkey, nor Turkey the EU. The Turks believe in hardcore nationalism, wil not give up sovereignity and still dream about islamic conquest.

You just hate the Germans, who help to stabilize the economy of your country too^^

[kekvirag1]

@AustrianAtheist The EU border must go to the far Eastern border of Russia and Turkey. 

[UnknownOconnor]

@AustrianAtheist Germany made our situation worse; they beset monetary policy for Ireland. They define Eurozone policy on their terms and theirs alone. Ireland did not need a bailout until Merkel opened her mouth (recall her bondholders remark?). In Ireland, people are happy yo leave the German Euro and return to our own currency. Still, I give Ewald Stadler my praise for his address to the Turkish Ambassador.

[aggelospanatha]

@UnknownOconnor "Ireland did not need a bailout until Merkel opened her mouth " the same happened with Greece

[UnknownOconnor]

@aggelospanatha and Germany has made the situation even worse for us while they benefit from the weak Euro at (our) expense. We didn't want to bailout Anglo Irish Bank but the ECB pressured us into doing so to protect German Bank bond holders. The street riots will be here soon because there's only so much people can tolerate. People must resist.

[aggelospanatha]

@UnknownOconnor yes mate here the situation is a bit different but the bottom line is the same, all ppl are punished for the sins of specific persons.There were so many politicians and their close friends who stole public money one way or another and destroyed the economy. People here are still being patient because most of us believe in the EU and the euro but the austerity measures are so unfair and do not aim at those who are to blame...I don't know how much patience is left...

[SuperGroundControl]

Exactly how do Germany and France expect the Irish to pay for their bailout (loan) without the businesses that come to the country to benefit from the 12.5% corporation tax? We have so little indigenous industry.Perhaps France should give back the Irish fishing rights WE have GIVEN to them. Its embarrassing how the behavior of private companies (the banks) is now linked with our Nation both economically and how Europe sees our country. Yes our wages are higher but is SO expensive to live here.

[mazze00]

@SuperGroundControl i am german and i can tell you we do not feel good about the position we are in right now pushing everyone so much to reduce deficits. not only that everybody hates us, but also it doesn't look like as if it will be enough. on the contrary. these countries shrink to death and we have to pump in even more money. it is crazy. everybody is trapped in a situation where he has to keep on doing what he desperatly would like to not do...

[SuperGroundControl]

@mazze00 Do you think the German public realize that we are loaning money from Germany to pay back German banks that invested badly in the Irish property market? Money that should never be paid back, in the small print "investments may fall as well as rise" seems to have been ignored on this occasion. Without these billions to pay back to foreign banks we would have had an old fashioned balance sheet recession - something the Irish economy would have been able to handle.

[edmondopowell]

ya world war 2 didnt finish just expanded to corruption and now there trying tio close in scums

[UnknownOconnor]

Yes, Germany is using Ireland as an example to prop up the Euro.

[Rico8458]

yes, the old way is that each nation has its own gold pile stock and then has their own money backed by gold. you dont spend much you tend to save more and live better.

[Rico8458]

europe better go back to the old days and forget this EU dream

[kekvirag1]

@Rico8458 I agree with you, we do not need the zionist germany in Europe.

[szuzmari]

How interesting that those countries who have helped by he IMF, they are all were destroyed financially... I am wondering, why...

[kekvirag1]

The germans are working against the Irish people.

[basicss86]

@kekvirag1

Nonsense.

[sixnationsrugbyfan1]

@kekvirag1

More like the French are working against Ireland due to the argument that is based upon our Corporate Tax, Germany do have the advantage, but France

did try to interfer with our CT was definitely a Negative approach when it came to resolving the Irish banking system.

If it wasn't for this corrupt Fianna Fail government Ireland could have kept most of our GAS RESERVES off the coast of Mayo, instead of allowing SHELL to ROB OUR COUNTRY OF THAT BENEFICIAL ASSET!

[kekvirag1]

@sixnationsrugbyfan1 The solution is to support TURKEY full EU membership. If Turkey become EU member we can vote out the bloody zionist germ-ans and franchs (frenchs) from the EU parliement. 

[thfall]

See that little country in the midst of Europe. That is where things are going in the right direction. Switzerland rules!

[AustrianAtheist]

Eure 18,8% Unternehmenssteuern sind aber auch asozial. (Nicht, dass Österreich besser wäre. Ich finde es trotzdem eine Frechheit, wie deutsches Kapital per Steuerdumping nach Österreich/Schweiz gelockt wird. Stolz kann man auf unseren Erfolg nicht sein)

[ibinixer]

@thfall

Yes, the Swiss did exactly he right thing by investing their Nazi gold into arms manufacture. Scum of the earth.

[thfall]

@ibinixer Yawn. You're an idiot. *blocked*

[BlessedONE333returnz]

THE EU IS SATANIC AND BAILING OUT THE IRISH WAS PLANNED

THE LIST IS GROWING OF SUCKERS BEING BOUGHT OUT BY THE NWO

[Wrath0fKhan]

@BlessedONE333returnz

Hell yea! NWO is taking over! NWO4LIFE! lol

watch?v=H7Kun-KqVtI

[BlessedONE333returnz]

@Wrath0fKhan WOW YOU ARE PATHETIC

[Wrath0fKhan]

@BlessedONE333returnz

And that comes from someone who writes with CAPS turn on all the time. Indeed, you are pathetic.

[Athenaikos]

Read today's article in Der Spiegel called "Can the Euro still be saved"?

In it you will find that the German Investment exposure in Portugal is 28.4Billion euro, in Ireland 114.7Billion euro and 147Billion euro in Spain. There are also graphs there about the sources of funds.

[musicman216]

Did he just say "ammunition in their clip"? He's been playing too much call of duty...

[Mojo1982]

How the fuck can France complain about Ireland's low corporate tax? How is that an unfair advantage? Why don't the French lower their own corporate tax to match Ireland's corporate tax? I hate the French they are such whinging arrogant hypocrites.

[AustrianAtheist]

In Austria, Ireland always was called "the casino". They did not really regulate anything, and banks were not really taxed. This is the reason why so many US companies have their European HQ in Ireland

[ovetodrinkpepsi1]

@AustrianAtheist So ironic that US corporations want to implement that same failed policy in America. Deregulation, low taxes. I personally like the German way of doing business.

[BlessedONE333returnz]

@ovetodrinkpepsi1 HEY MORON - THE US CORPORATIONS ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING

THE NEW WORLD ORDER IS MADE UP OF MOSTLY NON US MEMBERS

THEY ONLY USE THE USA FOR UNDER 15% OF ALL MORTGAGES - LOANS OR MONETARY GAIN

AND THIS VID IS ABOUT THE EU - THE IMF - THE INTERNATIONAL MONITARY FUND - THAT'S NOT THE US CORPORATIONS

LOL

I'M GUESSING YOU LIKE THE GERMAN WAY OF DOING THINGS WHEN HITLER WAS THE BOSS!

[ovetodrinkpepsi1]

@BlessedONE333returnz Oh great...Another nut. 17% of the U.S is of german decent....I guess they are nazis, right? The german or swedish method I was referring to is to not push your current monetary problems into the future but to take care of them now. I guess being fiscal responsible is being a nazi?

And for corporate taxes, what corporation does not want lower taxes to improve the bottom line?

Did you even read my comment or watch the video?

[BlessedONE333returnz]

@ovetodrinkpepsi1 YEAH I READ YOUR RANTS ABOUT GERMANY - WOW YOU ARE A MORON - OH AND YOUR PROFILE SAYS EVERYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT YOU - QUOTE... Profile Channel Views:49 Total Upload Views:0 Age:54 Joined:July 09, 2009 Last Visit Date:3 months ago Subscribers:1 Country:United States YOU ARE A TROLL AND YOUR FACTS ARE OFF - THERE ARE NOT 15% GERMANS IN THE USA! THAT'S HILARIOUS! YOU SHOULD ACTUALLY SEEK REAL SCIENCE FROM THE HUMAN GENOME DIVERSITY PROJECT TROLL IDIOT!

[ovetodrinkpepsi1]

@BlessedONE333returnz I am not the idiot posting all over the place about the NWO. You are retard. I never said there are 15% germans in the US. I said 17% of US population was of german decent. If you can't understand english go back to school. That's the problem with you idiots. You can't fucking read english and then demand everyone to speak your broken english.

The video clearly starts off talking about irish corporate taxes...not the NWO.

I am not a troll...

[ovetodrinkpepsi1]

@BlessedONE333returnz Are you stupid? Watch the video!

If this video was about NWO, it would be in the title.

Also, the analyst clearly mentions irish corporate taxes many times. It has everything to do with the irish bailout. The only way the irish can payback loans like this...regulate and increase taxes. If you are so smart, how else are you supposed to reduce the irish debt? You clearly have to increase revenue and decrease costs. That means higher taxes and less social services.

[Wrath0fKhan]

@AustrianAtheist

How did the Austrians call Greece? ;-)

[Teranex]

I so hope more countries bail out, this will be so much fun :D, for Germany that is...

[Gary190tube]

@Teranex lol XD!