So if the communist russians were running terrorists, how come we didn't bomb russia? What, they had a few nukes? Blasphemy!
How about who ever posted this Youtube video starts by getting a clue; and not doing mental gymnastics to fit what Ron Paul said about the Iran Hostage Crisis into this video poster's anti-American rhetoric.
Hey video poster, if you don't like freedom, then move to China.
Not their puppet but the effect was the same. From Time magazine1951 "There were millions inside and outside of Iran whom Mossadegh symbolised and spoke for, and whose fanatical state of mind he had helped to create. They would rather see their own nations fall apart than continue their present relations with the West.
[Mossadegh] intends to stick to his policies even though he knows they might lead to control of Iran by the Kremlin.
"Mossadegh's suicidal policy is a measure of the hatred of the West - and especially the hatred of Britain - in the Near and Middle East." (Quotes from Time, 1951.)
The Shah was the monarch in Iran, but they had an elected prime minister. Mossadegh threw out the english oil company, now BP, and used the oil companys profits for the benifit of the government and its people.
the UK went to H Truman, but he refused to be a part of the coup, he approved of the PMs nationalizing of the oil company. So as soon as Ike was in office they got him on board by telling them Iran could become a "communist" state. which was BS. out with elected leader, in with dictator.
Your analysis sounds reasonable to me -- except for your skepticism about communist influence in Iran. There was, and is, a large body of communists in Iran. Secondly, I seem to recall Ahmadinejad and Putin sitting down together in Tehran and (believe it or not) YALTA in the Ukraine. Duh.
I seem to recall Israel doing false flag terrorism in the King David Hotel bombing in the 40's, the Lavon Affair in the 50's, the USS Liberty in the 60's, & the Entebbe hijacking in the 70's. All those incidents are now publically disclosed facts. Meaning that those are just the ones they got caught at.
Take care you don't give Ron Paul a bad name. Comments like that will give voters the impression that RP's supporters are a gang ill-mannered teenagers. You would be surprised at the number of voters who are over the age of 40.
Vote for Hillary! Vote for 'No city left without a mushroom cloud.' Vote for gas and food shortages to toughen Americans! Vote for terrorists running amok through city wastelands! Vote for anarchy and tyranny and corner-store torture! Vote for the fifth fleet on the bottom of the ocean and Blackwater running Mexican troops through American Streets! Don't forget to vote for your own destruction in 08! Remember folks X by the HildaBeast!
Dude, this is SPAM. I saw these same words on my other video. Are you so friggin STUPID THAT YOU HAVE NO ORIGINAL THOUGHTS OF YOUR OWN and, because of that, we should vote for Ron POT-legalizing Paul??????
If you apply your argument about Carlos the Jackal (the most infamous international assassin of all time) to the statement made by Dr. Paul, your assertion is that the 'average' terrorist is somehow comparable to Carlos- thus, a vast array of college educated, sniper rifle trained terrorist masterminds got together and came up with a plot to terrorize America, and the best they could do was run into shopping centers in Israel, Palestine, and Iraq, and blow themselves to bits. Genius.
It seems that a large number of the people who disagree with Ron Paul are incapable of analyzing an argument or of providing corroborative evidence to support their own claims.
Joey, have you heard of the Cold War (West vs. "The Evil Empire," 1948 through 1984)? You can't grasp terrorism without understading its FOUNDATION: Carlos and company were a creation of the Soviet Union.
Wrong. Carlos was a free agent. Read Billy Waugh's "Hunting the Jackal". Waugh was responsible for the Jackal's eventual apprehension, as well as primary surveillance for bin Laden before he started blowing people up. While we're playing book club you should read "Islam & Jihad" by Abdul Noorani- who both rejects the violent anti-Americanist movement and explains the key difference between Islamic Fundamentalism and Pan-Arab Nationalism.
By the way, Waugh explains that the anti-American sentiment in Al-Qaeda was fueled by the American retaliation against Saddam for Kuwait, because bin Laden had visions of leading his Arab Revolutionaries (the Mujahadin) against Iraq in a holy war which would ultimately unite a strong Arabia (and an essential Arabian National monopoly on petroleum).
Let's recap: Carlos was educated in the USSR but trained in Jordan & was not a typical terrorist, nor did he blow himself up; bin Laden hates America because we denied him his Holy War & his wealthy united Arab oil monopoly which could extort the West- and then we set up permanent military bases in his homeland to boot; Billy Waugh is a real life GI Joe; RP understands the rat's nest in the Middle East & wants us out; and don't talk down to someone who has done far more research than you have.
Are you sure you weren't sleeping through the 70s??
Let me remind you that it was during this time that the US installed the Shah as leader in Iran, Iranian people then deposed the shah, and then Iranian People took Americans hostage for years
It was 1979. I watched it on TV in the lobby of my college dorm.
And your "facts" are far from the truth. The shah was leader of Iran BEFORE 1953. He was a harsh dictator,true. Khomeini hijacked the Iranian revolution and created a regime ONE HUNDRED TIMES WORSE than that of the shah (thanks to Jimmy Peanut Carter, perpetual screw-up from Georgia).
Okay, I even agree with some of your points but you twist and shave truth off to make invalid assertions- the assertion that the Shah had power in Iran prior to 53 is accurate- Iran was at that point a fledgling country after years of Western rule, following years of Ottoman rule. But the movement to nationalize Iran's natural resources was the reason that his political regime was supported from within by the CIA. This kind of intervention always sparks lasting resentment.
And look, it took you 5:19 to explain your position. Congressman Paul doesn't get 5 minutes to explain his position in the debates or in the media; he gets about 15 seconds before the host interrupts him. You know how it is. The media has no appreciation for history. But please know that Paul is not proposing blowback as an explanation for all world terrorism, throughout history.
I commend your historical knowledge, but please take the time to understand the claims being made. Bin Laden has told us time and again exactly why he is attacking us. Read is fatwa. He is attacking us first because we have troops in the Muslim Holy Land, and second because we support Israel, which is also on Muslim Holy Land. He couldn't be more clear.
Ron Paul was giving one example of blowback. His example was that the overthrow the democratically elected Mossadegh and US support for the oppressive Shah led to the Iranian Hostage Crisis, which is very true. He never said the 1953 coup was the root of all terrorism! That is only one of a plethora of US missteps in the Middle East.
First off I thank you for taking the time to not only ask a question but also take the time to make a video to support your argument.
However I must disagree. Ron Paul stated that we received 'Blowback' from our CIA aiding in the 1953 coup in the form of the Iran Hostage Crisis. he is not saying all terrorists come from 'Blowback'.
Also.....did Carlos the Jackal perform any direct acts of terrorism against the US? I thought most of his acts took place in France and the UK, hence the reason the French authorities are holding him with a life sentence. I could be wrong but I think he was a poor choice for supporting your argument.
listen man... Feel free to say what ever you want about dotor Paul. He is well used to getting blasted all the time.
But be warned, All the crap that gets thrown at him tends to bounce off and cover the guy who threw it in the first place....talk about "blowback" LOL
HAHA LOL, Your complete ineptitude to the understanding of blowback is quite amazing.
I wasn't even born then, but I apparently know more about the politics involved and the continuing Blow back it HAS caused.
The people of Iran lived under oppression for many years all because the Americans & the British didn't want the democratically elected leader Dr. Mohammad Mosaddeq in charge because he nationalized the Oil supply.
You only "know" what your left-wing handlers have TOLD you. You are woefully ignorant. SINCE WHEN did you give a rat's ass about an corrupt politician REFUSING to leave office and ASSUMING power not given by Iran's Constitution? This instability created a power vacuum that the USSR was only too eager to fill. The geo-politics of the Cold War are way beyond your level of ignorance. Good thing you are neither an American NOR OF ENGLISH descent, Abdul!
Face it. "Blowback" DOESN'T BEGIN to explain all the crazy murders SOME Muslems commit while under the sway of their COMMUNIST handlers. Go find SOME OTHER EXCUSE to blame American for terrorist stupidity. Good luck.
Blowback also doesn't explain all the crazy Christians, Jews, Whites, Blacks, Chinese, American murders that SOME of them commit while under the sway of some ASSH*LE. Go find SOME OTHER EXCUSE to blame a group of people for the stupidity of the individuals. Good luck.
I don't understand how anyone can argue against the idea of blowback. When people die, other people get mad. When U.S. actions result in death, people will get mad. This isn't rocket science. For every psychopath you can name that just wanted to kill people there are 100 militants that have revenge as a motivation.
Uh oh, we have a conspiracy theorist on our hands!!! One star for wasting my time!!! This guy is reading from an article that he did not write and as no understanding of, but I guess even the ignorant have the right to speak somebody else's words of past events while trying to make week connections to blowback. I feel less intelligent for having watched this video. Its ignorance has infected me. I don't have much longer until I morph into Neocon scum. Tell my family I love them.......noooooo!!!!
How do you know I didn't write this? Was it the way I stumbled over all those goofy names? YOU try saying "Lumumba" and "Moukharbal"! And you becoming "neocn scum"? No way! It'll never happen. New subject: I see that you are plenty bright when you point out the "weak connections to blowback." I know now that I can't fool everyone.
Don't worry, bootme21. We had their consent. WWII and the "Cold War" WERE executed primarily to protect THE SAFETY OF UNITED STATES CITIZENS ....but also that of the whole world. :) To the world we say, "Your welcome. No problem. Glad to help. Any time. (Now would you mind paying us back?)"
remind me, who owes who again? trillions in debt for, what was it again? and we didnt jump into ww2 to save the world, we waited and waited and waited, until attacked by japan in hawaii. then we herded up all the american-asians and sent them to concentration camps of our own.. =-(
Palestinian terrorism in the 1970s was BLOWBACK to the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land with the help of Britain and the US.
...and Soviet communism was BLOWBACK to Tsarist Russia's feudal system where the poor became poorer...
US meddling in other peoples' affairs for many decades has plenty of BLOWBACK... but since your anti-hero is Carlos the Mercenary you wouldn't understand this.
Good point: Soviet communism was BLOWBACK to Tsarist Russia's feudal system. "Peter the Great", right? I was never tought this. I came to this conclusion on my own.
What you just unwittingly did was prove Ron Paul's arguement. Are you going to honestly say all those acts of terrorism are not blowback from Israel's occupation of Palestine? You notice Palestine being brought up over and over again by them? That's what your missing. Britan should learn this lesson so they don't give the same piece of land to 2 diffrent people and create this problem again. We should take note.
Britain? "Give"? Jews lived in Israel for 1000's of years. Do you understand that HISTORICALLY there was NO SUCH PLACE as "Palestine" and that Israelis never "occupied" it and created "Palestinian refugees"?
When did Carlos kill Americans or commit terrorism against America?
Also, blowback could be considered as the reasons why he attacked those targets. Blowback isn't isolated to the USA btw. The question is, why he kidnapped and commited these acts.
If you're worried about communism look at our democratic party (except Gravel) and their universal health care plan.
I AM "worried about Communism" and I AM looking at "our democratic party"! About your comment: Carlos was from Venezuela. Maybe to him, the French looked like Americans! LOL!
"I believe very sincerely that the CIA is correct when they talk about blowback. When we went into Iran in 1953 and installed the shah, yes, there was blowback. A reaction to that was the taking of our hostages and that persists. ...They come and they attack us because we're over there." Ron Paul answers YOUR comment: " I see your problem, ...terrorism is blowback from Iran in 1953."
Yes, thank you for promoting that very sane logic. The US Embassy was raided and hostages taken because they were pissed because we supported the Shah (ie: blowback).
I'm sure you think you made some point, but other than proving mine you didn't.
By "over there" he meant Saudi & Iraq, because of course those are the reasons quoted by Bin Laden in his 1995 fatwa against the US.
Pardon my French, okay? I apologize in advance for speaking so bluntly but may I voice my opinion of the mercenary sociopath from Saudi? I would say this: "Fuck Ben Laden." The USA is the BEST and most POWERFUL nation EVER in the history of Mankind; we don't need Ben Laden's approval to do shit."
No, we don't need his permission, but if our actions create the environment which enables him to recruit enough people to kill innocent people then we would be retarded not to take note and not help him recruit.
He sat back and knew blind rage would overcome logical thought, and you prove him right.
Does not negate the fact the entire premise of your video is incorrect. If you really believed what this video claimed you are retarded, if you didn't your a hack.
When confronted that your entire premise was incorrect you retort with: "Fuck Ben Laden." <yawn>
Yes, the Islamic Revolution in 1979 in Iran was blowback from a entire generation who grew up under an oppressive government with the knowledge that the government was supported and defended by a country on the other side of the world.
"When we went into Iran in 1953 and installed the shah, yes, there was blowback. A reaction to that was the taking of our hostages and that persists. And if we ignore that, we ignore that at our own risk." --Ron Paul explaining how terrorism resulted from our "overthrow" of "elected" Prime Minister of Iran! To jmegill: No, to my knowledge, Carlos SHOULD HAVE targeted Americans but must have got confused somehow. (Maybe Ron Paul is wrong.)
Oh. I was referring to the debates. I thought the topic was terrorism. I didn't know they were taking about the famous 444 day "hostage crisis" caused by Jimmy the peanut farmer from Georgia.
Please tell me your kidding about Carter causing the hostage crisis. I suppose the CIA'S subverting a democratically elected Iranian leader and installing the Shah had nothing to do with it.
Go back to school and learn about the Cold War. Carter? Didn't your handlers tell you ABOUT THE CHARRED BODIES OF 3 MARINES left behind -- LEFT BEHIND --in the Iranian desert by this USELESS WRETCH Carter? Five American Airmen died when their C-130 collided with a RH-53 Sea Stallion helicopter full of Marines and Special Forces. Yes. Absolutely. Carter was a total failure and a huge disaster on America. Make no mistake.
Your name says it all. You PRETEND TO promote Ron Paul because you are working for the Soros-backed DRUG LEGALIZATION CAMPAIGN. Now I get it. No wonder you know ZIP about the Middle East, the Cold War and the FACT that Israel NEVER occupied A MYTHICAL, MADE-UP country stupidly called "Palestine." Thanks.
If you are wanting to read the thoughtful responses from the Pinkos, you will have to wait until after Thurs, 9:00 AM (Eastern Time). These folks keep business hours. However, in the mean time, you "little trolls" can go ahead and rate this video "1 star" but should NOT offer any duumb-ass comments until given the "green light" from HQ.
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So if the communist russians were running terrorists, how come we didn't bomb russia? What, they had a few nukes? Blasphemy!
How about who ever posted this Youtube video starts by getting a clue; and not doing mental gymnastics to fit what Ron Paul said about the Iran Hostage Crisis into this video poster's anti-American rhetoric.
Hey video poster, if you don't like freedom, then move to China.
lazer1million 2 months ago
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lazer1million 2 months ago
Not their puppet but the effect was the same. From Time magazine1951 "There were millions inside and outside of Iran whom Mossadegh symbolised and spoke for, and whose fanatical state of mind he had helped to create. They would rather see their own nations fall apart than continue their present relations with the West.
[Mossadegh] intends to stick to his policies even though he knows they might lead to control of Iran by the Kremlin.
opchidexio 2 years ago
"Mossadegh's suicidal policy is a measure of the hatred of the West - and especially the hatred of Britain - in the Near and Middle East." (Quotes from Time, 1951.)
opchidexio 2 years ago
The Shah was the monarch in Iran, but they had an elected prime minister. Mossadegh threw out the english oil company, now BP, and used the oil companys profits for the benifit of the government and its people.
the UK went to H Truman, but he refused to be a part of the coup, he approved of the PMs nationalizing of the oil company. So as soon as Ike was in office they got him on board by telling them Iran could become a "communist" state. which was BS. out with elected leader, in with dictator.
fraMichigan 3 years ago
Your analysis sounds reasonable to me -- except for your skepticism about communist influence in Iran. There was, and is, a large body of communists in Iran. Secondly, I seem to recall Ahmadinejad and Putin sitting down together in Tehran and (believe it or not) YALTA in the Ukraine. Duh.
opchidexio 3 years ago
I seem to recall Israel doing false flag terrorism in the King David Hotel bombing in the 40's, the Lavon Affair in the 50's, the USS Liberty in the 60's, & the Entebbe hijacking in the 70's. All those incidents are now publically disclosed facts. Meaning that those are just the ones they got caught at.
DaveIrie 3 years ago
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monsterflesh8s 4 years ago
Man this video SUCKS
monsterflesh8s 4 years ago
Take care you don't give Ron Paul a bad name. Comments like that will give voters the impression that RP's supporters are a gang ill-mannered teenagers. You would be surprised at the number of voters who are over the age of 40.
opchidexio 4 years ago
Vote for Hillary! Vote for 'No city left without a mushroom cloud.' Vote for gas and food shortages to toughen Americans! Vote for terrorists running amok through city wastelands! Vote for anarchy and tyranny and corner-store torture! Vote for the fifth fleet on the bottom of the ocean and Blackwater running Mexican troops through American Streets! Don't forget to vote for your own destruction in 08! Remember folks X by the HildaBeast!
Don't vote for Freedom and Prosperity Ron Paul!
XR500Final 4 years ago
Dude, this is SPAM. I saw these same words on my other video. Are you so friggin STUPID THAT YOU HAVE NO ORIGINAL THOUGHTS OF YOUR OWN and, because of that, we should vote for Ron POT-legalizing Paul??????
opchidexio 4 years ago
If you apply your argument about Carlos the Jackal (the most infamous international assassin of all time) to the statement made by Dr. Paul, your assertion is that the 'average' terrorist is somehow comparable to Carlos- thus, a vast array of college educated, sniper rifle trained terrorist masterminds got together and came up with a plot to terrorize America, and the best they could do was run into shopping centers in Israel, Palestine, and Iraq, and blow themselves to bits. Genius.
joeynewss 4 years ago
It seems that a large number of the people who disagree with Ron Paul are incapable of analyzing an argument or of providing corroborative evidence to support their own claims.
joeynewss 4 years ago
Joey, have you heard of the Cold War (West vs. "The Evil Empire," 1948 through 1984)? You can't grasp terrorism without understading its FOUNDATION: Carlos and company were a creation of the Soviet Union.
opchidexio 4 years ago
Wrong. Carlos was a free agent. Read Billy Waugh's "Hunting the Jackal". Waugh was responsible for the Jackal's eventual apprehension, as well as primary surveillance for bin Laden before he started blowing people up. While we're playing book club you should read "Islam & Jihad" by Abdul Noorani- who both rejects the violent anti-Americanist movement and explains the key difference between Islamic Fundamentalism and Pan-Arab Nationalism.
joeynewss 4 years ago
By the way, Waugh explains that the anti-American sentiment in Al-Qaeda was fueled by the American retaliation against Saddam for Kuwait, because bin Laden had visions of leading his Arab Revolutionaries (the Mujahadin) against Iraq in a holy war which would ultimately unite a strong Arabia (and an essential Arabian National monopoly on petroleum).
joeynewss 4 years ago
Let's recap: Carlos was educated in the USSR but trained in Jordan & was not a typical terrorist, nor did he blow himself up; bin Laden hates America because we denied him his Holy War & his wealthy united Arab oil monopoly which could extort the West- and then we set up permanent military bases in his homeland to boot; Billy Waugh is a real life GI Joe; RP understands the rat's nest in the Middle East & wants us out; and don't talk down to someone who has done far more research than you have.
joeynewss 4 years ago
Are you sure you weren't sleeping through the 70s??
Let me remind you that it was during this time that the US installed the Shah as leader in Iran, Iranian people then deposed the shah, and then Iranian People took Americans hostage for years
REMEMBER?!?!?!
Ron Paul '08
oathniel 4 years ago
It was 1979. I watched it on TV in the lobby of my college dorm.
And your "facts" are far from the truth. The shah was leader of Iran BEFORE 1953. He was a harsh dictator,true. Khomeini hijacked the Iranian revolution and created a regime ONE HUNDRED TIMES WORSE than that of the shah (thanks to Jimmy Peanut Carter, perpetual screw-up from Georgia).
opchidexio 4 years ago
Okay, I even agree with some of your points but you twist and shave truth off to make invalid assertions- the assertion that the Shah had power in Iran prior to 53 is accurate- Iran was at that point a fledgling country after years of Western rule, following years of Ottoman rule. But the movement to nationalize Iran's natural resources was the reason that his political regime was supported from within by the CIA. This kind of intervention always sparks lasting resentment.
joeynewss 4 years ago
Please support the WAR on GOVERNMENT! vote RON PAul 2008
duddevil 4 years ago 2
VOTE RON PAUL 2008.
rcuomo 4 years ago
And look, it took you 5:19 to explain your position. Congressman Paul doesn't get 5 minutes to explain his position in the debates or in the media; he gets about 15 seconds before the host interrupts him. You know how it is. The media has no appreciation for history. But please know that Paul is not proposing blowback as an explanation for all world terrorism, throughout history.
dircha 4 years ago 3
I commend your historical knowledge, but please take the time to understand the claims being made. Bin Laden has told us time and again exactly why he is attacking us. Read is fatwa. He is attacking us first because we have troops in the Muslim Holy Land, and second because we support Israel, which is also on Muslim Holy Land. He couldn't be more clear.
dircha 4 years ago 2
Ron Paul was giving one example of blowback. His example was that the overthrow the democratically elected Mossadegh and US support for the oppressive Shah led to the Iranian Hostage Crisis, which is very true. He never said the 1953 coup was the root of all terrorism! That is only one of a plethora of US missteps in the Middle East.
menno1985 4 years ago 3
What a simplistic generalization. Vote Ron Paul
yousavan 4 years ago 3
He sure followed up on that huh?
bo31411 4 years ago
First off I thank you for taking the time to not only ask a question but also take the time to make a video to support your argument.
However I must disagree. Ron Paul stated that we received 'Blowback' from our CIA aiding in the 1953 coup in the form of the Iran Hostage Crisis. he is not saying all terrorists come from 'Blowback'.
rrekowjr 4 years ago 3
Also.....did Carlos the Jackal perform any direct acts of terrorism against the US? I thought most of his acts took place in France and the UK, hence the reason the French authorities are holding him with a life sentence. I could be wrong but I think he was a poor choice for supporting your argument.
rrekowjr 4 years ago
listen man... Feel free to say what ever you want about dotor Paul. He is well used to getting blasted all the time.
But be warned, All the crap that gets thrown at him tends to bounce off and cover the guy who threw it in the first place....talk about "blowback" LOL
FlingNdirt 4 years ago
-_- that's all i have to say...
punkmafia 4 years ago
HAHA LOL, Your complete ineptitude to the understanding of blowback is quite amazing.
I wasn't even born then, but I apparently know more about the politics involved and the continuing Blow back it HAS caused.
The people of Iran lived under oppression for many years all because the Americans & the British didn't want the democratically elected leader Dr. Mohammad Mosaddeq in charge because he nationalized the Oil supply.
DZDownUnder 4 years ago
You only "know" what your left-wing handlers have TOLD you. You are woefully ignorant. SINCE WHEN did you give a rat's ass about an corrupt politician REFUSING to leave office and ASSUMING power not given by Iran's Constitution? This instability created a power vacuum that the USSR was only too eager to fill. The geo-politics of the Cold War are way beyond your level of ignorance. Good thing you are neither an American NOR OF ENGLISH descent, Abdul!
opchidexio 4 years ago
I am of English Decent
DZDownUnder 4 years ago
It is at times like these when I question whether it is actually wrong to restrict genetically defective people from reproducing.
jacknewt 4 years ago
Yeah. I know. Maybe they should be kept from voting...
opchidexio 4 years ago
Face it. "Blowback" DOESN'T BEGIN to explain all the crazy murders SOME Muslems commit while under the sway of their COMMUNIST handlers. Go find SOME OTHER EXCUSE to blame American for terrorist stupidity. Good luck.
opchidexio 4 years ago
I was talking about you, opchidexio.
jacknewt 4 years ago
Blowback also doesn't explain all the crazy Christians, Jews, Whites, Blacks, Chinese, American murders that SOME of them commit while under the sway of some ASSH*LE. Go find SOME OTHER EXCUSE to blame a group of people for the stupidity of the individuals. Good luck.
Fallenvirtue 4 years ago
unuther hit, we luv u down ere in Whitebeard, Alabama. My cuzin says u r rite and he had one ove dem fancy high scool diplomas.
Imachinative 4 years ago
Both my folks came from Alabama. Neither played a banjo, though. That is "disinformation." (We have no thumbs, or, at least, no "opposible" ones.)
opchidexio 4 years ago
I don't understand how anyone can argue against the idea of blowback. When people die, other people get mad. When U.S. actions result in death, people will get mad. This isn't rocket science. For every psychopath you can name that just wanted to kill people there are 100 militants that have revenge as a motivation.
wisechemicals 4 years ago
I would agree that "Carlos" was merely a "psychopath." I suspect he would have been happy to kill for anyone, not just for the Soviets or the PFLP.
opchidexio 4 years ago
Uh oh, we have a conspiracy theorist on our hands!!! One star for wasting my time!!! This guy is reading from an article that he did not write and as no understanding of, but I guess even the ignorant have the right to speak somebody else's words of past events while trying to make week connections to blowback. I feel less intelligent for having watched this video. Its ignorance has infected me. I don't have much longer until I morph into Neocon scum. Tell my family I love them.......noooooo!!!!
KillerK30 4 years ago
How do you know I didn't write this? Was it the way I stumbled over all those goofy names? YOU try saying "Lumumba" and "Moukharbal"! And you becoming "neocn scum"? No way! It'll never happen. New subject: I see that you are plenty bright when you point out the "weak connections to blowback." I know now that I can't fool everyone.
opchidexio 4 years ago
the US government is responsible for the safety of US citizens, not all the people of the world...
No amount of power justifies running the world. only consent does...
bootme21 4 years ago
Don't worry, bootme21. We had their consent. WWII and the "Cold War" WERE executed primarily to protect THE SAFETY OF UNITED STATES CITIZENS ....but also that of the whole world. :) To the world we say, "Your welcome. No problem. Glad to help. Any time. (Now would you mind paying us back?)"
opchidexio 4 years ago
remind me, who owes who again? trillions in debt for, what was it again? and we didnt jump into ww2 to save the world, we waited and waited and waited, until attacked by japan in hawaii. then we herded up all the american-asians and sent them to concentration camps of our own.. =-(
VertNinja 4 years ago
Palestinian terrorism in the 1970s was BLOWBACK to the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land with the help of Britain and the US.
...and Soviet communism was BLOWBACK to Tsarist Russia's feudal system where the poor became poorer...
US meddling in other peoples' affairs for many decades has plenty of BLOWBACK... but since your anti-hero is Carlos the Mercenary you wouldn't understand this.
kebon 4 years ago
Good point: Soviet communism was BLOWBACK to Tsarist Russia's feudal system. "Peter the Great", right? I was never tought this. I came to this conclusion on my own.
opchidexio 4 years ago
What you just unwittingly did was prove Ron Paul's arguement. Are you going to honestly say all those acts of terrorism are not blowback from Israel's occupation of Palestine? You notice Palestine being brought up over and over again by them? That's what your missing. Britan should learn this lesson so they don't give the same piece of land to 2 diffrent people and create this problem again. We should take note.
OptDiscounts 4 years ago
Britain? "Give"? Jews lived in Israel for 1000's of years. Do you understand that HISTORICALLY there was NO SUCH PLACE as "Palestine" and that Israelis never "occupied" it and created "Palestinian refugees"?
opchidexio 4 years ago
questions:
When did Carlos kill Americans or commit terrorism against America?
Also, blowback could be considered as the reasons why he attacked those targets. Blowback isn't isolated to the USA btw. The question is, why he kidnapped and commited these acts.
If you're worried about communism look at our democratic party (except Gravel) and their universal health care plan.
soulmantim 4 years ago
I AM "worried about Communism" and I AM looking at "our democratic party"! About your comment: Carlos was from Venezuela. Maybe to him, the French looked like Americans! LOL!
opchidexio 4 years ago
You haven't given up yet opchdexio?
I see your problem, you are so dense you belive the arguement is every single act of terrorism is blowback from Iran in 1953.
All the cases you cite have root causes in Foreign Occupation.
You sound like G.W. Bush and are about as bright.
I should start a class-action lawsuit against you on behalf of everyone who wasted 5 minutes of their life on this video.
OptDiscounts 4 years ago
"I believe very sincerely that the CIA is correct when they talk about blowback. When we went into Iran in 1953 and installed the shah, yes, there was blowback. A reaction to that was the taking of our hostages and that persists. ...They come and they attack us because we're over there." Ron Paul answers YOUR comment: " I see your problem, ...terrorism is blowback from Iran in 1953."
opchidexio 4 years ago
Yes, thank you for promoting that very sane logic. The US Embassy was raided and hostages taken because they were pissed because we supported the Shah (ie: blowback).
I'm sure you think you made some point, but other than proving mine you didn't.
By "over there" he meant Saudi & Iraq, because of course those are the reasons quoted by Bin Laden in his 1995 fatwa against the US.
OptDiscounts 4 years ago
Pardon my French, okay? I apologize in advance for speaking so bluntly but may I voice my opinion of the mercenary sociopath from Saudi? I would say this: "Fuck Ben Laden." The USA is the BEST and most POWERFUL nation EVER in the history of Mankind; we don't need Ben Laden's approval to do shit."
opchidexio 4 years ago
"Fuck Ben Laden."
Wow, don't go out on a limb or nothin..
No, we don't need his permission, but if our actions create the environment which enables him to recruit enough people to kill innocent people then we would be retarded not to take note and not help him recruit.
He sat back and knew blind rage would overcome logical thought, and you prove him right.
OptDiscounts 4 years ago
By the way saying: "Fuck Ben Laden."
Does not negate the fact the entire premise of your video is incorrect. If you really believed what this video claimed you are retarded, if you didn't your a hack.
When confronted that your entire premise was incorrect you retort with: "Fuck Ben Laden." <yawn>
You should not go unarmed to a battle of wits.
OptDiscounts 4 years ago
Not too bright, are you?
Yes, the Islamic Revolution in 1979 in Iran was blowback from a entire generation who grew up under an oppressive government with the knowledge that the government was supported and defended by a country on the other side of the world.
It's really not that hard.
scott715 4 years ago
Did Carlos kill any Americans? If so, what are their names?
jmegill 4 years ago
"When we went into Iran in 1953 and installed the shah, yes, there was blowback. A reaction to that was the taking of our hostages and that persists. And if we ignore that, we ignore that at our own risk." --Ron Paul explaining how terrorism resulted from our "overthrow" of "elected" Prime Minister of Iran! To jmegill: No, to my knowledge, Carlos SHOULD HAVE targeted Americans but must have got confused somehow. (Maybe Ron Paul is wrong.)
opchidexio 4 years ago
"--Ron Paul explaining how terrorism resulted from our "overthrow" of "elected" Prime Minister of Iran!"
No, he was explaining why our US embassy was raided and hostages taken in IRAN. What you think they did it because they were just bored?
OptDiscounts 4 years ago
Oh. I was referring to the debates. I thought the topic was terrorism. I didn't know they were taking about the famous 444 day "hostage crisis" caused by Jimmy the peanut farmer from Georgia.
opchidexio 4 years ago
Please tell me your kidding about Carter causing the hostage crisis. I suppose the CIA'S subverting a democratically elected Iranian leader and installing the Shah had nothing to do with it.
gapatriot 4 years ago
Go back to school and learn about the Cold War. Carter? Didn't your handlers tell you ABOUT THE CHARRED BODIES OF 3 MARINES left behind -- LEFT BEHIND --in the Iranian desert by this USELESS WRETCH Carter? Five American Airmen died when their C-130 collided with a RH-53 Sea Stallion helicopter full of Marines and Special Forces. Yes. Absolutely. Carter was a total failure and a huge disaster on America. Make no mistake.
opchidexio 4 years ago
I have sympathy for this kind of ignorance!
Death2Prohibition 4 years ago
Your name says it all. You PRETEND TO promote Ron Paul because you are working for the Soros-backed DRUG LEGALIZATION CAMPAIGN. Now I get it. No wonder you know ZIP about the Middle East, the Cold War and the FACT that Israel NEVER occupied A MYTHICAL, MADE-UP country stupidly called "Palestine." Thanks.
opchidexio 4 years ago
If you are wanting to read the thoughtful responses from the Pinkos, you will have to wait until after Thurs, 9:00 AM (Eastern Time). These folks keep business hours. However, in the mean time, you "little trolls" can go ahead and rate this video "1 star" but should NOT offer any duumb-ass comments until given the "green light" from HQ.
opchidexio 4 years ago
Calling names negates your getting any thoughtful response. Think about abusing others! Not cool.
mlang52 4 years ago