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  • man your shepards fuckin ugly breh

  • @IamSpartanX Save your hatred for the collectors.

  • do u have to have 100% paragon/renegade to do this

  • "Not even remotely."

    God help that poor sonofabitch.

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  • I hate Jack.Miranda all the way.

  • Joker: "Take pictures" lmao

  • .... i just thought of something with Mass Effect 3.... during this argument, if you choose either the paragon or renegade, they both say they will fight each other after the mission.... but if you choose a side, then choose the paragon/renegade later when your talking to them privately, fighting after the mission is out the window... so i was thinking... could them having their fight have coincidences in Mass Effect 2 and if it does can it be avoided by talking to them later privately??????

  • @ShoguntheKiller coincidences in Mass Effect 3 i mean...

  • hey can somebody tell me how to get the paragon or the renegade dialogue into this conversation.

  • @yakwetoallemmarshall kind've straight forward. pick the opions that relate to the response of choice before hand

  • @MasterGouken I need your help to save jack cause my paragon is over 75% but I couldn't save her can u help me out so I can keep her alive through out the suicide mission

  • My paragon is almost full but I carnt get the paragon ending

  • Wow, Miranda's face at 1:59. I'm glad I had enough Paragon points at this point in the game.

  • @UltimaSaviorDragon: same I left miranda's loyalty mission until last hoping they would fight before I did it, but... Not a clue

  • How the hell did you get the Paragon choice lit up? I've played this game twice and did more stuff that involves me being a Paragon and yet still can't make that choice.

  • he forgot to take pictures 

  • Hey whats the face code for your shephard?

  • @MuzeecX Don't have one unfortunately. Was an import from ME1.

  • @matchboxmatt Cant you press start then press squad?

  • @King0fHarts Nah, face codes don't exist for import characters. I didn't even know about face codes until I decided to edit my character once through a playthrough.

  • ...And this is why Miranda died in the suicide mission.

  • how come i didnt get the red and blue voice options

  • WTF i have full blue and i cant get miranda on my side

  • @gamerboy448

    Have you done her loyalty mission? Also, after each mission you do keep asking to talk to her some times she will say she's busy or whatever then sometimes she talks....That's what I did to Jack. ;)

  • @JessTrude well i did her mission last 

  • @gamerboy448

    Nice. :P

  • @JessTrude ok so i did everything but jacks is the last and my paragon is at the top WHAT DO I DO WITH THE BITCHES!

  • @gamerboy448

    I picked most of the evil stuff to get Jack to turn on my side...(and a little good stuff)

  • I chose the default class, and i have over 75% paragon, so why cant i choose that paragon talk option?

  • Shepard: Are we good?

    Miranda: Not even remotely....

    Hah, Miranda wants to kill Shepard now! Next time I play ME2, I gotta tell Miranda off!

  • lol, sheperds chinese

    

  • Sweet video. I would have never had both Paragon and Renegade full enough for both options. Btw your Shepherd is insane looking! He looks like a serial killer!

  • @hornick18 haha, thanks man, much appreciated. Funny you mention he looks like a serial killer - that's exactly what he is.

    For the collectors.

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  • I didn't have the negotiation options when this fight broke out. So, I took Jack's side thinking, "I can sweet talk Miranda later, but Jack's just crazy." Now, I've pretty much done every mission and I have full paragon.

    So why can't I talk Miranda down now before the suicide mission?

  • @AlabamaSoldier Do you have the class-specific stat maxed out?

  • @matchboxmatt I figured it out. I had Commando. To talk her down, you need Shock Trooper. It provides more of a bonus to your paragon/renegade status. Afterwards, I can just use 2,500 eezo to retrain myself as a Commando.

  • @AlabamaSoldier I guess that's the solution for everyone who's ever had a problem opening up these options. I'll keep this floated.

  • @matchboxmatt I'm sure many ME2 players will appreciate that.

  • @matchboxmatt actually, it's not. according to bioware, ur success in both negotiations (this 1 and tali vs legion) depends on how many paragon/renegade points u've collected vs how many you've encountered. so if u skipped an interrupt or didn't make a particular decision, u start losing ground. fall 2 far behind and ur screwed. so it's best to do this scene as early as possible. they also said it's easier to fix miranda x jack with renegade and tali x legion with paragon. me1 import helps 2.

  • @MasterGouken That would make sense. I never had any problems in regular playthroughs with any of the options since I always tended to do Jack and Legion's missions last. I also had an ME1 import, so that probably helped as well.

    The more you know. Thanks for the post.

  • @MasterGouken Im pretty far in the game and have over 75% paragon, I still need to reqruite leigon but thats it, and i dont have that option to break up miranda and jacks fight. Am i too far ahead to fix it?

  • @WackyFunkMunster I believe so. it's hard to say with any certainty because everyone's game varies so much (I have no idea how many opportunities you passed up) but usually by that point if you can't do it, you're screwed. The only advice I can give you is to try and accumulate as many points as possible and try to convince them that you were just kissing up to their rival. If you're worried about your entire squad surviving though, PM me and I'll tell you how to save a disloyal member.

  • @AlabamaSoldier thankyou sooooooooo much that helped me very very much i was freaking out cause i didnt have either good or bad options when tht fight happend but u helped me, you sir are a saint

  • @Weezerr420 *bows*

  • @AlabamaSoldier and how did you get those options ?

    My renegade/paragon status ain't where it needs to, but I hate Miranda hating me.

  • @7770robi What do you mean?

  • I wanted to get laid by miranda, so i sided with her.. ;D

  • Hold on a second how did you get both options!? And how do you get Jacks paragon option?!

  • @GBPacor I hacked my save for the purpose of this video. For Jack's follow-up paragon option, you have to get over 90% Paragon. I'd invest in the class-specific paragon/renegade bonus if you're having trouble meeting the quota.

  • @matchboxmatt how do u get th bonuses???

  • your shepard looks like my dentist

  • I like your Shepard here, I can totally see this guy in an action movie. : )

    BTW, if you could do the same thing with Tali and Legion, showing all the outcomes and follow-ups, I'd be grateful, because not one video on here has done that. Thanks in advance.

  • @YesR4U I was actually half way through doing a vid for that! But the issue is that to record every different outcome, you have to save at the point right before you finish either Tali (or in my case, Legion's) mission to record the confrontation. With Tali, you'd probably just have to walk through a door, but with Legion, you have to do the final section of his loyalty quest over and over, and it was getting crazy levels of ridiculous.

    I'll definitely do it in my next play-through, though!

  • @matchboxmatt I'll be holding you to that y'know. Double cross me and I'll smear the wall with you. : 3

  • @YesR4U Legion & Tali vid is up. Quite after the fact, but a promise is a promise!

  • if I take Jack's side and then in the next conversation with miranda I use paragon can I later have a romantic ralationship with her??

  • @felortegav

    if you take jack's side and gain miranda's loyalty back, you wont be able to romance her at all. unless you take her side instead.

  • Fun Fact : Yvonne Strahovski, the girl who voices Miranda, stars in this movie called The Canyon. During a scene in that movie, her boyfriend asks her if she feels better, and she answers, "Not even remotely." Hahaha

  • Sherperd: Calm down ill fuck both of you after the mission.Now jack go make me and sandwich and miranda suck my dick

  • "take pictures" lmao

  • at what point in the game can paragon/renegade work here? cause i had this conflict late in the game and my max paragon enabled no option.

  • I murdered jack on purpose. Hehehe

  • I really can't stand Miranda. She's always making excuses for Cerberus. Oh it wasn't us, not really, oh it wasnt personal, we didnt have time to be gentle, bla bla derp derp.

    Oh well, I 'accidentally' got her, Jacob, and the rest of the Cerberus crew killed on the suicide mission. meh

  • @Thongger

    Technically she's right in just one case. You find out from the security logs during Jack's loyalty mission that the Teltin staff were hiding their actions from The Illusive Man and feared his wrath should he find out.

    Now, that still doesn't excuse the REST of Cerberus' cruelty (dangerous experiments on Rachni, their attitude towards Quarians, injecting Toombs with venom, etc.), but if someone's guilty 99 times out of 100, that still means he can be innocent 1 time.

  • I love Jack

  • It's so sad that you can't just leave and let them fight...

    If i were Shepard I'd come back later to scrape Miranda off the wall.

  • Fuck your feelings!

    CLAS-SICK

  • i hate jack

  • i wish garrus had a conflict with jacob in this,now that woud be a fight.lol

  • how much do you need to get good or bad follow ups

  • I love Miranda's reaction when you side with Jack, her eyes just pop open! XD

  • Shepard looks like a fetus.

  • Miranda is a bitch but she has the best romance scene since Ashley in Mass Effect 1

  • @claytonjohnson17 ew, so much is wrong with this statement.

  • @nevrest No @claytonjohnson17 is right, Miranda is the best.

  • He looks like a young Jim Ross

  • i pissed off miranda :p

  • I have a full paragon meter and it still doesn't give me the option to get mirandas loyalty back

    But the way I see it, I only kept her alive in ME2 so I could get the no one left behind challenge and she could come in handy in ME3 with her knowledge of Cerberus.

    But in ME3 I'm going to make sure that miranda dies, shes almost as bad as ashley, which is saying something.

  • I can never get the Paragon or Renegade options! DX

  • Shepard: "I fucking reunite you with your long lost sister that you rescued from a horrible life, but I insult cerberus even a little, and you can't trust me?"

    Miranda: "nope."

    *Picks Miranda to hold the line*

  • @JACgaming69

    Technically in this particular example, Miranda's pissed off because Shepard insulted her personally (saying that Jack was better than her), not because he insulted Cerberus.

  • As a girl, I hated Miranda, but I felt bad for her because people kept calling her bitch :(

  • Because of this stupid disagreement Miranda died at the end.. IT WAS WEIRD CUZ I DIDN'T CARE >:[

  • @TeeDubable Hahaha, it makes too much sense. I can see it now.

    "Why didn't your friend make it?"

    "Oh, I hurt her feelings."

  • @WoahThatsFun XD HAHAHAHA!

  • You'll never figure me out Miranda!

  • dude, tell me something.

    the Paragon romance scenes can only happen AFTER the Suicide mission?

  • damn how the hell do you have high paragon and renegade scores?

  • Dude, my paragon option is always locked. what am I doing wrong?

  • @TriforceHand11 nothing, your paragon score just isn't high enough

  • @HusslerkiD So what? I just wait til say before I get the Reaper IFF?

  • @TriforceHand11 yea basically.. if i remember correctly it has to be maxed out before those options are available.. so whenever you get it that high.. u mite wanna do some side missions to get it up to that level

  • Your Shepard is fucked up!

  • If i get enough paragon to get jack talking to me again can i get her loyalty back?

  • @Kikeesperto in theory

  • Watch 'em be best friends in ME 3. You know BioWare can't resist stuff like that.

  • ''Take Pictures!'' I love Joker ^^ <3

  • 1:20 Jack was so angry, her tongue clipped through her teeth. :O

  • LISTEN TO SPACE MAGNETO!

  • i did both the loyalty missions, and i told jack to "stand down" because i didn't have the paragon or renegade options, and now she's not loyal to me anymore.. can i change this?

  • @TheMrUnable

    Yes, you can change this.

    To get Jack's loyalty back, you have to visit her in her living space in the Engineering deck. Pick "Can we talk?" as usual, but Jack will just say something snide, so you have to pick either Charm to convince Jack that you only sided with Miranda to keep Cerberus' network of contacts, or Intimidate to convince Jack that you sided with Miranda because Jack is a better warrior when she's angry. Jack will let it slide and she'll be loyal again.

  • damn, is you Shepard getting chemotherapy?

  • if we choose "this is a distraction" and want miranda's romance it will still work right ?

  • URGENT HELP NEEDEDi need help my paragon is almost filled the last line and i still cant do the paragon choice for jack once it reaches the line will i be able to do it? cheers

    ATTENTION

    p.s just need your attention guys haha

  • Miranda's way better than Jack.

  • "take pictures! jajaoajaojaoajoa xDDDD

  • I sided with Jack, but I need Miranda loyal for the no one left behind achievement. How high does my paragon score have to be to get her loyal again?

  • @Tanhankara 100% I am afraid. During this scene I didn't have enough Paragon/Renegade points to settle this dispute between Miranda and Jack. I tried to make up for it later, but I couldn't due to the lack of Paragon/Renegade points. 

  • does your Shepard have cancer?

  • i screwed that part. but when i interact with my crew members i can tell that only Garrus and Thane are worthy to be Shepard's friend.

  • @Buli0n I don't like Thane to be honest, neither do I like Jack and Samara. However, I do like Jacob, Miranda, Kelly, Tali, Garrus and several others. They are cool.

  • @brongers457 yes, you are right Jacob is cool also, Kasumi is not bad. The rest can go and fuck themeselves.

  • "not even remotely" *door hits shepard on the head and he falls unconcious.

  • Jack: "At least my tits aren't synthetic, bitch!"

  • I had the option to calm both sides equally, but then I realized something. I don't trust Cerberus. Jack is a million times more complex than Miranda and a billion times better in combat. If you side with Miranda it's understandable that Jack doesn't want to talk to you because shes a psychopath, while Miranda just decides to hold a grudge for something so small.

    So I said "Fuck her" and sided with Jack.

  • @Slide2671

    Wait, if I'm reading your post correctly, you actually had a high enough Paragon or Renegade score to either Charm or Intimidate them both into backing off...and you INTENTIONALLY messed up the argument by siding with only one of them? And not because your Charm or Intimidate options were grayed out due to lack of enough points?

    Dang, you're quite the unusual fellow. ^_^

  • @MartialArtsMaster Hey, what can I say. Jack is my girl, Miranda's a bitch.

  • Great video man, do Tali and Legion also!

  • haha jack called me a pussy on the prison ship

  • Patrick Stewart Shep FTW?

  • omg, shepard looks so creepy in this video. LOL

  • Take Pictures!!! LOL

  • Joker is like a brother to me. And he reminds me of my real brother. He is AWESOME!!!

  • So did talking to them after that restore your loyalty?

  • @SXRXE

    Yes. If you sided with only Miranda or only Jack, rather than calming them both, you'll lose the other woman's loyalty...but you CAN make that woman "loyal" again if you use Charm or Intimidate to persuade the loser that you only sided with the winner out of an ulterior motive.

  • take pictures!

    damn i love joker

  • Did Jack use biotics to open the automatic door at 3:26?

    Was that really necessary?

  • @StrongGaia It's only automatic when you touch the button, she was still like five feet away. It's a lot less impactful to storm out of a room when you need to stop at the auto-door-which you cannot slam shut afterward-and wait for it to open.

  • dude your sheperd looks like a bald girl

  • Miranda seems pretty hurt when you side with jack... :(

  • You know what sucks? If you choose Miranda over Jack, you cant go back and talk to her....even with a full Paragon/Renagade.

  • @GBPacor really?thats why I cant bang HER

  • a failed jackie chan

  • So can u get their loyalty back? Cuz i sided with jack when they both had loyalty and lost mirandas....

  • shepard looks like a dick

  • What if he LITERALLY kissed Jack's ass?

  • i fucked this up my first time playin. i sided with Miranda and tried to get jack back but it wouldnt let me >.<

  • holy shit shepard looks like a tranny

  • 1:59 o_O

  • To clear this up for everyone who's been asking: yes, some people can do the paragon/renegade options with different levels in the para/ren bars. The reason is that the game doesn't measure how many points you have, it checks the percentage of those choices you've already made. For example, if every time I had a choice, I picked paragon, I could pass this speech check even if I only had the bar 25% full. The solution? Do the quests with hard speech checks EARLY.

  • I wonder if having absolutly NO RENEGADE would help...

  • what i don't get is this, how can u have both paragon and renegade options during this fight? i tried my best to keep them both at the same level and ended up having o take one's side? how do u have both paragon and renegade options available?

  • take pictures

  • OH, no. Here comes Vin Diesel, ready to kick ass.

  • This takes two play throughs, paragon points matter but the level counts for more. If you dont want to lose loyalty your first playthrough, dont do jacks loyalty quest and make her do nothing on the sucide mission or the same with miranda

  • How the fuck do I get the choice to choose the paragon option "Be the better woman". I'm at 80 percent paragon, I've checked with other people and they said that even if you get to a hundred percent, you still can't choose the option. Someone please help me.

  • A mistake? Don't call her a mistake, Miranda. Otherwise, you're no better than your father.  Would you say the same thing if your sister was at Pragia?

  • @buffalobill4892

    To be fair, Miranda didn't actually mean "Jack's existence was a mistake." She meant, "What happened to Jack was a mistake, because normally Cerberus doesn't torture children; the security logs at Pragia's Teltin facility said the operatives were hiding their actions from The Illusive Man."

  • @MartialArtsMaster I suppose it's possible that the Illusive man wouldn't know about what they were doing, but. . . .IDK, I just don't trust him enough to fully agree to that. . . . I mean, it's like Jack said, the recordings never said what they hiding from him. I think he would be perfectly willing to let something like that happen, need I point out "Project Overlord"?

  • So does it mean they're loyal again after the follow-ups?

  • joker wants pictures to masturbate to

  • i love joker when he says that "take pictures" lol

  • if you take jack's side and dont have all the paragon

    does that mean you can't bang miranda???

    I NEED TO KNOW

  • @SUPERPERSIAN91 that is indeed what it means

  • Oh I love seeing Miranda in pain (am I sick?)

    "not even remotely" I was fricking happy to see her face like that.

  • @KubernetePirata I don't think you're sick. My brother and I are in agreement that we hate her attitude.

  • hey if i pciked jack's side, can i still sleep with miranda? also i would love to sleep with the inter :P

  • @D3adm0nk3y13

    Yes you can, pull off your Paragon/Renegade move to gain her loyalty, although it is harder coz the opening romance dialogue is quite scarce since.

  • I went with Miranda's side, but for some reason, when i went to go talk with jack, i couldn't do the paragon or the renegade options! Anyone know why?

  • @007MonkeySkull

    You need a higher paragon. I need like 3/5 filled up for that (pretty much the same amount you need for Zaeed) If it's not work, then file it to EA

  • How do you get the under my boot dialogue ? i had that once, but now on my playthrough i got this lame dialogue option.

  • @bladerj that renegade response is an option when Legion and Tali fight

  • Wow thats the worst Shepard i've ever seen...

  • damn it's my second time replaying this game and I still can't get all the choices. So i decided to go for miranda again last time I beat the game I also chose miranda and jack still lived but thane died and he was loyal.

  • how much paragon/renegade do you need for the follow up conversations?? can some pllzzz wright back?????