i have a few things to say about end times and what Christians claim please especially Christians read the prophecies of ST. Hildega and Rembordt Christians claim these are true today be cause we have means to talk to each other over vast distances allowing the non educated to talk with others they cited things like the telephone and computers they even point to Bill Gates as a man that does the devils work,because what he did was to focus peoples attention to modern ideas and take away con.
I wonder if there are any japanese earth quake victims that had any silly "end of time" thoughts run through their predeath minds...looks like 2012 came a lil early for them. I bet a lot of watches and clocks had an early "end of time" when the salt water swallowed them as well. Apparently "end of time" has some other definitions I don't quite get but than I never claim to be too bright anyway.
Ok thanks for clearifying your point...which is (in your opinion) it is scientifically incorrect that what happened to the dinosaur age could and will happen again. On that note, please excuse my intrusion into where I have no business :)
I'm generally inclined to fully agree with with most of your views and elaborations mr. Heathen however some of your statements are scientifically incorrect this time. Aside from all the 2,012 mayan calender propaganda, global warming,solar flairs and the obvious effects of green house gases are no longer up for scientific debate. Ice caps and glaciers are vanishing at a rate much faster than scientist originally predicted. Simply, it is truely a natural cycle of mass extinction.
@KingHeathen Ok maybe I got the impression that you weren't considering the many over due potential global killers (super volcanoes, solar blast, etc.) that modern science is well aware of...hense 2,012 (even if coincidental) could possibly be a date of catastrosphic earthly disaster. The domino effects resulting from the population explosion in the past 50 yrs is also a runaway train with lots of devistation potential...jus saying :)
My wee brother is a feckin idiot for believing this shit. He thinks you dont have to do well in school coz theres no point. What a tool. I told him he'll have to live with the consequences - ie no respect and shit job forever and ever.
My wee brother is a feckin idiot for believing this shit. He thinks you dont have to do well in school coz theres no point as it'll all end in a year or 2. What a tool. I told him he'll have to live with the consequences - ie no respect and shit job forever and ever.
Therefor, for him the world did end! Ha Haaaaa you fool. And dont come and scrounge food from me!
OK, if this 2012 thing was all false, can you imagine how dumb people will look like in the Discovery Channel, or even better, Discovery Channel itself for broadcasting such programs about the fated year of 2012?
I hope somebody will have the guts to sue all those doomsday prophets. I can imagine that gullible people make the wrong decisions based on all this doomsday crap
The same thing that causes ships to disappear in the Bermuda Triangle will be responsible for destruction of the earth in 2012. It is a 9,000 lb duck.
Seriously, the Bible says there will be an end to time. When? No one knows. Period.
I'm self described awesome. Nothing official but I am ordering a mug with it printed on the side. Forget college, I'm going to self describe myself to my degree.
I can not accept your claims because you have NOTHING to BACK IT UP!!!!! If you think you do, then present it...if you don't then maybe YOU need to RETHINK IT!
But what am I talking about? This is the troll...I mean person...I mean...alien that claims to be broadcasting to Earth....seriously, you're a joke (pun intended)
@KingHeathen i used to believe in some of those events,but it turns into bogus,only because people don't understand that all this happening is just because the ability to get news,and information world wide...it's been always happening just now we're hearing about it cause of internet/media/the ability to travel easier...EARTH QUAKES,FLOODS,STORMS,ECT,....HAS ALWAYS BEEN GOING ON...NOTHING NEW,BUT NATURE!
I wasn't aware anyone thought 2012 was the end of the world but that the Mayans understood it as a new cycle for humanity.
The Bible & Revelation doesn't even predict the "end of a world" but a world without end.
But since you're focusing on reality here, Heathen, I very much think that shit will go down at some point. There's no way this is going to hold up with all the nuclear technology and cross-continental disputes (greed) going on.
I agree, GWB, shit will indeed "go down" eventually. The only thing a lot of these 2012-type idiots don't seem to understand is that the date won't have been predicted thousands of years beforehand.
We'll see it coming to some extent, but it's got nothing to do with the wisdom or insight of the ancients.
Absolutely. Even if people wanted to reference the most popular account of end times in the bible, it clearly says that no one knows the time when it will happen in the heavens or earth. Stuff like that.
What's been really troubling for centuries is people's use of this kind of prophecy/philosophy is to scare people into submission, and that's pretty shitty.
From what I know, what is explained is clearly in opposition to oppression, if anything. How ironic.
When I was a little kid there was a Jehovah Witness which used to tell me that the world was going to end in Y2K and I used to live very scared... That's one of the reasons why I hate religion.
Why is there so much fuss about the world ending in the year 2012. The world ended in the year 2000! And we don't really exist now. You're not even reading this comment.
It's funny though. That guy from the universe, The Asian one. I saw him on the news, and he said a Giant solar flare is coming in 2012. That it would act like a giant EMP and knock out our satellites and shit.
But I saw it on Faux News, so you know... XD
There is a part of me that loathes industrial society, and would like nothing more than to see it collapse in on itself.
But, I heard a rumor the next Godzilla movie would come out 2014. So I hope Fox news is wrong like they usually are. :D
IF the beginning of the long count marks the creation of man, then the end marks the end of it. After that the cycle renews with man being created anew. <<< This is speculation. HOWEVER. When you add in the info that Modern Shamans believe this to be true. It becomes a more credible Theory.
NOW, again, Understanding the Maya is like solving a puzzle with some of the pieces missing. You have to guess at the answer often... Understand?
THE FACT THERE WAS NOT CONVERSATION IN THE FIRST PLACE!
You did NOT even read this did you?
PLEASE, IF I am wrong i NEED to know.
Tell my factual errors, and my logical errors.
YOU Keep saying SO MANY SCHOLARS disagree with me. But all you have said is "Most Scholars don't buy into this 2012 crap" IF YOU HAD READ!!!! I AGREE 100%
You have absolutely NO CLUE what YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! If that's not bad enough, You have no clue what I AM TALKING ABOUT!
You should read about the calendar on authenticmaya . com
IT IS NOT A 2012 SITE. The part on the calender is focused ON the calendar as a whole, NOT just the long count. It's long, but it will give you a better understanding of the Maya than some stupid 2012 site.
An Idiot who has done a few hours of research and is desperately clinging to ONE professors statements is a waste of my time. I am telling you, what I AM SAYING comes from the words of MULTIPLE ARCHEOLOGISTS! <<< I think they would know more about the topic than a professor. No?
Actually, from everything I've seen, only your few FRINGE "archeologists" buy into this baloney. Every accredited scholar I've looked at dismisses the whole thing....as they should.
But since you refused to answer the question, I'll leave you with what I've already said...Let's discuss it again in 2013.
I AM NOT saying it WILL happen because the Mayans Believed it. In fact I think anything happening is unlikely.
All I AM doing is telling you the FACTS. I did NOT say the Archaeologists believe it will happen. I am simply saying that they said, THAT THE MAYANS DID think it would happen.
The only reason I said something, is because a lot of people trust your word. And I did NOT want you miss informing them on what the Mayans believed.
PS: To answer your Q. 4 Years of obsession on the subject.
But you never answered MY Q. I will ask it again.
IF the purpose of the long count IS NOT to count the cycles of human creation...
WHAT is its purpose?
Also: OF COURSE THEY SAY IT IS A BUNCH OF CRAP! It's like taking the bible literally. How ever, just because it is a bunch of crap. DOSE NOT mean the ancient Maya did NOT believe it.
2012 should be a good investment period. We need to start a business providing care and comfort thru the end (12-21-2012) in exchange for all the worldly possesions of those who believe.
SORRY about the shit storm of Comments I left. READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE READING MY OTHER COMMENTS PLEASE:
(King, I am not some wiki junkie. Nor did I read up on the Maya AFTER learning about 2012. I DO NOT get my info from 2012 sites, where supporters and skeptics PULL SHIT OUT OF THEIR ASSES. I am explaining the Calender, the long count and it's meaning... AS DESCRIBED in the various books I have read on the Maya. <<<WHICH were written but ARCHAEOLOGISTS, not some second rate "Professor")
I never saw the link. It's hard to see if the professor is right or wrong from a partial statement.
If by "It's not the end" she means, a new cycle will be next <<< SHE IS RIGHT
if by "it is not the end" she means "I don't think anything will happen <It is an opinion not a fact, and you should not have used it in the first place.
IF by "it is not the end" She means that the Mayans did not believe that something of apocalyptic nature would happen <<< YOUR PROFESSOR WOULD BE WRONG!
According to the Mayans, the world won't end. Civilization, and man as we know ourselves will end. A great change to a new beginning.
Whether a bunch of natural disasters happen, and we are force to live as primitives. OR humans begin to reach their next stage of evolution. Something will change.
A lot of these comments are based on the misconception that the Mayan calendar predict the end of the world in 2012... It doesn't, it just goes on to the next cycle, like the Western calendar does on December 31. Will the world end then? Of course not!
Misconceptions Eh?Learn your Mayan Mythology. The long count is as much about religion as it was about astronomy. What day you were born on decided your fate.
To the Mayans, a calender is A LOT MORE than just a calendar.
Your ignorance is impressive... IF the long count dose not signal the end of this cycle, then what dose it mean? There has to be a reason for the extra numbers right? I hate when Christians, and Atheists talk about Pagan stuff. They never have a clue what they are talking about.
I was a Mayan Reconstructionist. I am rather confident in my ability to understand a religious belief I once followed.
Modern Mayan Shamans think something will happen. And as any one mildly interested in history knows, the locals tend to know more than the "Professors"...
By the way. When I say "Mayan Shamans", or "Locals" I tend to be speaking of the near extinct Mayan tribes in the Yucatan. <<< If they are not qualified to say how the Mayan though, WHO IS???
ALSO King. You dismiss that it means the end of a cycle of man, and a beginning of a new. (Meaning the end of man, and it's recreation.)
HOWEVER, you offer no alternative.
IF in fact it DOSE NOT mean the end... Enlighten me as to it's meaning. (Obviously it is a cycle, but a cycle of WHAT exactly.)
It's a cycle...just like our calendar comes in a 12 month cycle....theirs is a cycle based on astrological estimations. Some of which have been proven FALSE!
Mayan, Aztec... There is something about their beliefs that speak to me in a way I can't explain. Even the darker stuff.
The Cultures, Religion, and People fascinate me. I Feel as if I can connect to them, know how they worked.
I Tried Asatru (Norse Heathenism), I tried Hellenist Reconstructionism (Greek Paganism), I tried Shinto, I tried Wicca, AND I tried various others. None of them spoke to me the same way.
While I have little native blood, I have always felt more Native American than euro.
Yeah, I can see what you mean. The old and minor religions are fascinating. Though I will admit to knowing more about the Greeks and Egyptians than the Mayans, but you knew that already.
Sorry, with me knowing the actual truth behind that scenario and you trying to read your crystal ball to guess at it...I find your entire reply LAUGHABLE!
Not to mention your "facts" are a bit off...
but again, I'm done with the conversation. Feel free to think that your 4 years of amateur study outweigh people with 8 year doctorates and decades of continued study.
To be Honest I think we have had a communication error. I doubt you understand my stance, nor do you want to. In fact, I am sure you stereotyped me from the get go.
I am 17. When I was 7, when my obsession was Dinosaurs, I met a man named "George D. Stanley"... I called him the "Dino Man".
ANYWAYS THE POINT:
Me and him had a talk about Dinosaurs. He told me that I knew more than the collage kids he taught. A 7YEAR OLD with a COLLAGE grade understanding of Dinosaurs.
ha, mine is 22nd of dec. At least you'll enjoy part of your birthday. Lol, not that i think much of this dooms day tripe. At least it gave hollywood another idea for some bullshit move.
i just want to say that i stopped listening after the words' 'mayan prophecy'. you don't need anything else to realise the argument abou the end of the world is ridiculous, because:
While I suppose that's technically correct, the fact that it's "made up" means the likelihood of it being true is infinitesimally small.
What are the chances that an ancient Mayan shaman could predict the exact moment of the end of the world AND all our empirically-based science be off by billions of years???
A short list of failed doomsday prophecies throughout history: -The Prophet Hen of Leeds, 1806 -The Millerites, April 23, 1843 (who formed the 7th Day Adventists) -Mormon Armageddon, 1891 or earlier (Joseph Smith was...wrong?!) -Halley's Comet, 1910 -Pat Robertson, 1982 -Heaven's Gate, 1997 -Nostradamus, August 1999 -Y2K, Jan. 1, 2000 -Richard Noone, May 5, 2000 -God's Church Ministry, Fall 2008
It's even clear of the Mayan Calender indicates the end of the cycle.
An example of how it's written would be 13.19.8.4.5.
12-21-12 will be 13.0.0.0.0. The mechanics of the calender aren't understand well enough to know whether or not the intent was to reset to 0.0.0.0.0 or continue onward to 20, in which case 12-22-12 would simply be 14.0.0.0.1 and the end of the Long Count would be sometime around 8000 AD
Just look up end of the world dates. And you'll see that basically every year for the last 300 years the world has been predicted to end. Just look back to 2000 everything was supposed to end then too.
The idea of the world ending in 2012 is preposterous; however, considering the number of people that actually believe the myth, I'm compelled to entertain the possibility that this would be a great night for a party.
Checking my calendar, I see that 12/21/12 happens to fall on a Friday. Perhaps a true believer will agree to spending his life savings on expensive beer and wine for the event!
I think this whole thing is as easily explainable as this:
The Mayans had just finished the plotting of that cycle, which took a long time because they had to CHISEL IT INTO ROCK, when suddenly some white guys showed up and killed them all, rendering the calendar unfinished. Centuries later, people hear about this calendar, which they don't know is simply unfinished due to its authors being killed before they could complete it. So chaos ensues and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
The mayans were a fantastic civilisation, far ahead of many others at the time, but does that mean they could accurately predict the end of the world? Absolutely not.
Even living mayan descendants don't believe the 2012 "prophecy"
The Christians have been predicting the end for centuries and nutjobs have crawled from every nook and cranny every two to three years with some other apocalypse idea. This is just the latest in a long series of lame schemes.
"self described expert" lol, you just gotta love that kind of capitalism.
combined with PT Barnum's line "there's a sucker born every minute" , we can rest assured we'll never run out of "experts" cashing in on fear.
this reminded me of the YT guy - Von Helton - claiming a couple months ago that there was a 50/50 chance that a wandering 'brown dwarf' called Hellion 1957 was going to impact our sun and cause theEnd to come.
My prediction: on December 24th, after all these nut jobs rush to get their Christmas shopping done at the last minute, seeing as the world didn't end like they thought, is that they'll just say, "oh, something happened. We just don't know what it is. The end is coming blah blah blah," until everyone forgets about this in a few years.
Remember though, we are still running on limited knowledge.
The Mayans supposidly have a more accurate time system than we do, and we ourselves have noticed that, some how, theres supposed to be a galactic alignment and possibly a pole shift on the same date that the mayans calender restarts. Question, WHY did they choose there calender to restart the dates that they do. Thats the real question. I am skeptical, but I'm not calling it bullshit yet, there is somewhat of a scientific backbone.
well a pole shift would not happen over night . it would take thousands of years and we would never feel it. but something else could happen .who knows . hopefully not though.
I remember watching Nova a while back and Neil DeGrasse Tyson laughed at the Earth, Sun and center of the galaxy aligning by saying "Yea, that happens every year on that date" lol
I just checked and my calendar ends on December 31st this year.
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!
I want someone who believes this crap to sell me there house for a reduced rate as long as I pay them up front and I let them live there till January 1st 2013
lol Brilliant video, i think the same. Also when they say the Earth and Sun line up with the galactic center what they fail to mention is that this happens every year, every time the Earth goes aroung the Sun, lol they make me laugh.
He has a lot of 'reasons' for his belief. Problem is he can't differentiate between 'coincidence' and 'good reason'. For conspiracy theorists, religious folk, and alien/2012 believers, it's all the same. They can't be reasonable because they never EVER try to falsify hypothesis. Contrariwise, they ignore any falsification no matter how contradictory or how indisputable any fact ever is.
This is the definition of delusional. Ridicule, perhaps surprisingly, is not the right medicine.
Back with Y2K, I was sure either the entire universe would blow up, or my computer would self-destruct, OR, when I walked out of my house (if it was still there), I'd encounter a world of top-hat and monacle wearers, with moustaches and canes, and people would be busily trying to invent an airplane. Either the end of the world, or back to the beginning of the cycle.
I'm a bit miffed, actually, as I wanted to take a trip to British India. The month-long cruise would be hard, though!
KingHeathen, you should check out the user Antichrist666 or something like that. He made a video about his own prophecy. It is so crazy it's hilarious.
I believe that Neil Tyson DeGrasse, a well known astronomer, has addressed the alignment of the earth, centre of the milky way, and sun. Apparently it will happen on the predicted date, and does happen every single year with no negative consequences.
2012, i am hoping to throw a 2012 party, so me and my friends can all die together. or have a big 2012 stickam party. we all get drunk on camera so when the 600 tide waves come we can die and not feel it. lol.
Someone told me that the worst that could happen is the earth shifting it's magnetic poles. I didn't bother to do any research, but I know an even like that lasts 50,000 years or so, and has happened many times before.
All sound rather silly to me. How could the mayans even know of a black hole? Even a supermassive black hole in the center of the galaxy? Maybe the archeologists doing the translating are on shrooms. . .
I saw 2012 the day it came out and in motion seats. It was awesome! Anyway, I watched the dateline special, and Iv seen the history channel special more then twice. The second I saw Shermer saying its bullshit, I was like hmmm...Then as it went on, I didnt see a shred of evidence for 2012, it was terrible. I was actually pretty offended at how bad it truly was.
The dateline special was basically some nut job who bases all of it on a pseudoscientific [the bases for the entire prophecy, and is called fake science by Shermer. They also said many or some like the nut job tie Atlantis into 2012, it talked about the bible code and was quickly disproved by a priest or pastor. So we we have a jewish mathematician, a skeptic like Shermer and now a pastor or priest who say TBC is bullshit. Wonderful!!!!! =]
Then it went into the nut job who says Martians experienced 2012, and moved here, and his evidence for life on mars? A picture of a fuckin face on mars, and calls it a fucking sculpture. The special never shows that the picture of the face wasnt created, but simply from one picture of it, it looks like a face, but closer it doesnt at all. But seriously? A piece of mars resembles a human face, so aliens exist? Creationist *sigh* So sick of it...
The special was just so insulting to my intellect, and MOST of the claims werent even challenged, and even when they were, it didnt even dwell into it at all. All I saw was creationist arguments [landscape on mars resembles face, therefor aliens exist.] fake science, and assertion, after assertion. It was terrible. It had some one [like a mayan scholar] walk towards a newly found mayan artifact, and explained the symbolism and the sport they played to explain it was all about a rebirth.
no...I'm not interested in watching any of those shows as I see them as just as bad as the people claiming this stuff is true. They are fanning the flames because it's profitable. Stuff like this should only be laughed at and called on its bullshit. That's why I liked the article. It never once gave any credence to the idea that the 2012 crap had ANY validity and it made that clear from the start.
LOL @ 1:32! He's obviously not a trained astronomer or cosmologist either.
An alignment of the Earth, Sun, and the Milky Way? How do you align an entire galaxy with just one of its millions of stars AND one of the planets orbiting said star? I wonder if these people actually realize that the sun is a star, or if they're just ignoring that fact willingly.
The Alignment of the earth, sun and center of the galaxy happens every year on December 21. Search youtube for Neil DeGrasse Tyson 2012. He is a REAL LIFE astrophysicist who explains the whole thing!
I saw quite a few people in dept stores over the last few days in my little fundie town in the Southern USA. I would venture a guess that 90% are Christians. They were buying toys for Xmas!! If they were thinking the end is coming, why buy toys for their kids? Shouldn't they be stocking shelves with food or maybe taking trips to exotic places to fulfill their dreams before their doom? I wonder what the % of theists actually believe in this crap? I would just stock lots of beer and get wasted.
The only thing I see happening AT MOST is what I feared AT MOST would happen for y2k - a FEW people would freak out/go bonkers and impede my going on with my day. Otherwise there were a few fun collectibles (I still have my notepad block with an atom and 01-01-00 on the side sitting right here on my desk).
VIRGIN BIRTHS!?!?! That's RIDICULOUS! What idiot would believe in that sort of thing!? Surely you'd never see anything like that in modern times, that's for sure...
I've heard a 2012 theory that the Earth is gonna be in the exact center of the universe on 12/21/2012, and that that'll bring about a cataclysm.
Never mind the fact that the Milky Way is being repelled away from the center of the universe. Ignoring that small detail, consider the vastness of the universe when compared to Earth... what are the odds of that particular 2012 rumor actually being true? And why on earth would it cause the end of the world?
For this prophecy to come true requires one of two things :
1. The Mayans had superior scientific knowledge to 21st century scientists and were able to detect/predict naturalistic events modern science cannot
2. They used supernatural powers to see the future
Given that there has never been one single shred of evidence that Mayan science is superior in any field of science to current understanding and that supernatural powers have never been demonstrated to exist
FUUUCK
diamondlighting101 9 months ago
peoples need to follow God.
johndebbra 9 months ago
i have a few things to say about end times and what Christians claim please especially Christians read the prophecies of ST. Hildega and Rembordt Christians claim these are true today be cause we have means to talk to each other over vast distances allowing the non educated to talk with others they cited things like the telephone and computers they even point to Bill Gates as a man that does the devils work,because what he did was to focus peoples attention to modern ideas and take away con.
johndebbra 9 months ago
I wonder if there are any japanese earth quake victims that had any silly "end of time" thoughts run through their predeath minds...looks like 2012 came a lil early for them. I bet a lot of watches and clocks had an early "end of time" when the salt water swallowed them as well. Apparently "end of time" has some other definitions I don't quite get but than I never claim to be too bright anyway.
kick08ful 10 months ago
Ok thanks for clearifying your point...which is (in your opinion) it is scientifically incorrect that what happened to the dinosaur age could and will happen again. On that note, please excuse my intrusion into where I have no business :)
kick08ful 11 months ago
@kick08ful his point was that it's stupid to believe the world will end in 2012 and it's load of BS. In my opinion that is scientifically correct.
xiii13lulz 11 months ago
@kick08ful and that makes him incorrect how? You still haven't really made a point.
xiii13lulz 11 months ago
I'm generally inclined to fully agree with with most of your views and elaborations mr. Heathen however some of your statements are scientifically incorrect this time. Aside from all the 2,012 mayan calender propaganda, global warming,solar flairs and the obvious effects of green house gases are no longer up for scientific debate. Ice caps and glaciers are vanishing at a rate much faster than scientist originally predicted. Simply, it is truely a natural cycle of mass extinction.
kick08ful 11 months ago
@kick08ful I'm still waiting for the part where I was "scientifically incorrect." I never questioned global warming.
KingHeathen 11 months ago
@KingHeathen Ok maybe I got the impression that you weren't considering the many over due potential global killers (super volcanoes, solar blast, etc.) that modern science is well aware of...hense 2,012 (even if coincidental) could possibly be a date of catastrosphic earthly disaster. The domino effects resulting from the population explosion in the past 50 yrs is also a runaway train with lots of devistation potential...jus saying :)
kick08ful 11 months ago
2012에 세상이 끝난나든 것은 거짓입니다. 성경을 읽으십시요 마태복음 24:3.Read the Bible Mattew 24:3 to know the TRUTH. Lean La Biblia en San Mateo 24:3 sobre La VERDAD.
hidosogood 1 year ago
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My wee brother is a feckin idiot for believing this shit. He thinks you dont have to do well in school coz theres no point. What a tool. I told him he'll have to live with the consequences - ie no respect and shit job forever and ever.
GreatGungHolio 1 year ago
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My wee brother is a feckin idiot for believing this shit. He thinks you dont have to do well in school coz theres no point as it'll all end in a year or 2. What a tool. I told him he'll have to live with the consequences - ie no respect and shit job forever and ever.
Therefor, for him the world did end! Ha Haaaaa you fool. And dont come and scrounge food from me!
GreatGungHolio 1 year ago
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GreatGungHolio 1 year ago
OK, if this 2012 thing was all false, can you imagine how dumb people will look like in the Discovery Channel, or even better, Discovery Channel itself for broadcasting such programs about the fated year of 2012?
dontexplode2 1 year ago
I hope somebody will have the guts to sue all those doomsday prophets. I can imagine that gullible people make the wrong decisions based on all this doomsday crap
lizazoon 1 year ago
The same thing that causes ships to disappear in the Bermuda Triangle will be responsible for destruction of the earth in 2012. It is a 9,000 lb duck.
Seriously, the Bible says there will be an end to time. When? No one knows. Period.
jimu57 1 year ago
I'm self described awesome. Nothing official but I am ordering a mug with it printed on the side. Forget college, I'm going to self describe myself to my degree.
trekgeek1 1 year ago
right...
I can not accept your claims because you have NOTHING to BACK IT UP!!!!! If you think you do, then present it...if you don't then maybe YOU need to RETHINK IT!
But what am I talking about? This is the troll...I mean person...I mean...alien that claims to be broadcasting to Earth....seriously, you're a joke (pun intended)
KingHeathen 2 years ago
@KingHeathen i used to believe in some of those events,but it turns into bogus,only because people don't understand that all this happening is just because the ability to get news,and information world wide...it's been always happening just now we're hearing about it cause of internet/media/the ability to travel easier...EARTH QUAKES,FLOODS,STORMS,ECT,....HAS ALWAYS BEEN GOING ON...NOTHING NEW,BUT NATURE!
chucka59 1 year ago
Check back with me on May 13th, 2012 and we will discuss your false prophecy.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
even if he was an archaeologist he talking about cosmology for fuck sake!
Dunc115 2 years ago
I wasn't aware anyone thought 2012 was the end of the world but that the Mayans understood it as a new cycle for humanity.
The Bible & Revelation doesn't even predict the "end of a world" but a world without end.
But since you're focusing on reality here, Heathen, I very much think that shit will go down at some point. There's no way this is going to hold up with all the nuclear technology and cross-continental disputes (greed) going on.
Just keeping it real.
GhostWhisperBlues 2 years ago
I agree, GWB, shit will indeed "go down" eventually. The only thing a lot of these 2012-type idiots don't seem to understand is that the date won't have been predicted thousands of years beforehand.
We'll see it coming to some extent, but it's got nothing to do with the wisdom or insight of the ancients.
Have a good one.
ATL45 2 years ago
Absolutely. Even if people wanted to reference the most popular account of end times in the bible, it clearly says that no one knows the time when it will happen in the heavens or earth. Stuff like that.
What's been really troubling for centuries is people's use of this kind of prophecy/philosophy is to scare people into submission, and that's pretty shitty.
From what I know, what is explained is clearly in opposition to oppression, if anything. How ironic.
Have a good one yourself.
GhostWhisperBlues 2 years ago
*to -is
GhostWhisperBlues 2 years ago
I know, Jehova's witnesses have a had their flase prophecies too and that stupid movie is just mental programing for the idiots!
FuckNW04Life 2 years ago
"Most" scholars? Who's the real scholars on this subject? lol
GhostWhisperBlues 2 years ago
Archeologists who study ancient Central American cultures.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Oh them. We may have figured more out if our ancestors didn't slaughter so many of them or bring them diseases. lol
GhostWhisperBlues 2 years ago
When I was a little kid there was a Jehovah Witness which used to tell me that the world was going to end in Y2K and I used to live very scared... That's one of the reasons why I hate religion.
PrawdaUnia 2 years ago
Why is there so much fuss about the world ending in the year 2012. The world ended in the year 2000! And we don't really exist now. You're not even reading this comment.
PlainsofWar 2 years ago
lol, funny
FuckNW04Life 2 years ago
5:55 Mayan quotemine fail
MarcusCardiff 2 years ago
It's funny though. That guy from the universe, The Asian one. I saw him on the news, and he said a Giant solar flare is coming in 2012. That it would act like a giant EMP and knock out our satellites and shit.
But I saw it on Faux News, so you know... XD
There is a part of me that loathes industrial society, and would like nothing more than to see it collapse in on itself.
But, I heard a rumor the next Godzilla movie would come out 2014. So I hope Fox news is wrong like they usually are. :D
dragonddff 2 years ago
It is impossible to predict solar flairs thats why the SOHO satellite was launched to give us advanced warning once one had occurred.
All we can predict is average sun activity.
MarcusCardiff 2 years ago
Not Predict. He said it was coming or something...
But like I said, it's Fox News. So nothing to worry about :D
dragonddff 2 years ago
You have a point, if Fox said that Xmas was coming I'd check the calendar.
Anywho....
MarcusCardiff 2 years ago
FINE I give up.
You can't reason with an idiot....
I just hope you read more, and when you realize I was right. That you will take this video down, and replace it with one more factual.
dragonddff 2 years ago
LETS USE FACTS AND LOGIC.
Fact:In the Mayan creation myth, there were multiple cycles of the creation of man. We are the people made of Corn and Blood.
Fact:When the Mayans chose the start date for the long count, they guessed the day of their creation.
Fact:Modern Mayan Shamans in the Yucatan believe that the end of the long count signals the end of man, and its next creation.
(Check these Facts)
NOW here is the problem with the Maya. We have fragments of info. Thus a lot is speculation.(TBC)
dragonddff 2 years ago
(Continued)
NOW Here is where we use LOGIC.
IF the beginning of the long count marks the creation of man, then the end marks the end of it. After that the cycle renews with man being created anew. <<< This is speculation. HOWEVER. When you add in the info that Modern Shamans believe this to be true. It becomes a more credible Theory.
NOW, again, Understanding the Maya is like solving a puzzle with some of the pieces missing. You have to guess at the answer often... Understand?
dragonddff 2 years ago
(Final Part)
Now YOU, and if you speak the truth many scholars, think that the end of the cycle had no significance for the Maya.
This is easily discredited by the following FACTS.
FACT: The Calender was used not only as a time keeper, but as a giant tool for astronomy.
FACT: Mayan Priests were the keepers of the Calender, and were the Mayans Astronomers.
FACT: The Calender was one giant Horoscope. Each day, month, year, had a god assigned to it.
FACT: The Mayans were very superstitious. (DONE)
dragonddff 2 years ago
KING these are the comments you should have read and replied to.
I would love for you to tell me my factual, and logical errors in this.
It says "LETS USE FACTS AND LOGIC." <<< YOU CAN'T MISS IT!
dragonddff 2 years ago
What part of "DONE WITH THE CONVERSATION" are you having a problem with?
KingHeathen 2 years ago
THE FACT THERE WAS NOT CONVERSATION IN THE FIRST PLACE!
You did NOT even read this did you?
PLEASE, IF I am wrong i NEED to know.
Tell my factual errors, and my logical errors.
YOU Keep saying SO MANY SCHOLARS disagree with me. But all you have said is "Most Scholars don't buy into this 2012 crap" IF YOU HAD READ!!!! I AGREE 100%
You have absolutely NO CLUE what YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! If that's not bad enough, You have no clue what I AM TALKING ABOUT!
dragonddff 2 years ago
You claim often, if you are wrong you want people to call you on it. And you will admit you were wrong.
Yet when someone actually confronts you. You belittle them, you don't even engage in a discussion.
It's sad, and pathetic.
dragonddff 2 years ago
You should read about the calendar on authenticmaya . com
IT IS NOT A 2012 SITE. The part on the calender is focused ON the calendar as a whole, NOT just the long count. It's long, but it will give you a better understanding of the Maya than some stupid 2012 site.
dragonddff 2 years ago
Actually I am done here...
An Idiot who has done a few hours of research and is desperately clinging to ONE professors statements is a waste of my time. I am telling you, what I AM SAYING comes from the words of MULTIPLE ARCHEOLOGISTS! <<< I think they would know more about the topic than a professor. No?
dragonddff 2 years ago
Actually, from everything I've seen, only your few FRINGE "archeologists" buy into this baloney. Every accredited scholar I've looked at dismisses the whole thing....as they should.
But since you refused to answer the question, I'll leave you with what I've already said...Let's discuss it again in 2013.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
@KingHeathen
You Don't Get It.
I AM NOT saying it WILL happen because the Mayans Believed it. In fact I think anything happening is unlikely.
All I AM doing is telling you the FACTS. I did NOT say the Archaeologists believe it will happen. I am simply saying that they said, THAT THE MAYANS DID think it would happen.
The only reason I said something, is because a lot of people trust your word. And I did NOT want you miss informing them on what the Mayans believed.
dragonddff 2 years ago
@KingHeathen
PS: To answer your Q. 4 Years of obsession on the subject.
But you never answered MY Q. I will ask it again.
IF the purpose of the long count IS NOT to count the cycles of human creation...
WHAT is its purpose?
Also: OF COURSE THEY SAY IT IS A BUNCH OF CRAP! It's like taking the bible literally. How ever, just because it is a bunch of crap. DOSE NOT mean the ancient Maya did NOT believe it.
dragonddff 2 years ago
@dragonddff (Myself)
Of course by "on the subject" I mean Mesomerican culture.
dragonddff 2 years ago
I thought you said you were done here...I know that I did.
Take it up with the VAST number of scholars that say you are wrong.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
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dragonddff 2 years ago
2012 should be a good investment period. We need to start a business providing care and comfort thru the end (12-21-2012) in exchange for all the worldly possesions of those who believe.
BigAtheist 2 years ago
SORRY about the shit storm of Comments I left. READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE READING MY OTHER COMMENTS PLEASE:
(King, I am not some wiki junkie. Nor did I read up on the Maya AFTER learning about 2012. I DO NOT get my info from 2012 sites, where supporters and skeptics PULL SHIT OUT OF THEIR ASSES. I am explaining the Calender, the long count and it's meaning... AS DESCRIBED in the various books I have read on the Maya. <<<WHICH were written but ARCHAEOLOGISTS, not some second rate "Professor")
dragonddff 2 years ago
Question: King, you said the Mayan calendar cycles go back before the universe.
Can you source this?
The Mayan Calender ACTUALLY only goes back 4 cycles, ours being the fifth.
The LONG COUNT, is directly tied with Mayan Mythology. The Beginning of THIS CYCLE, was the 5th creation of man.
The first was made of mud, second of wood, etc etc.
We are the best creation so far, how ever the end of the cycle signals the creation of man.
dragonddff 2 years ago
I sourced the article already...that's what I quoted, that quote came from a PROFESSOR on ancient Mayan cultures. What more do you want?
KingHeathen 2 years ago
I never saw the link. It's hard to see if the professor is right or wrong from a partial statement.
If by "It's not the end" she means, a new cycle will be next <<< SHE IS RIGHT
if by "it is not the end" she means "I don't think anything will happen <It is an opinion not a fact, and you should not have used it in the first place.
IF by "it is not the end" She means that the Mayans did not believe that something of apocalyptic nature would happen <<< YOUR PROFESSOR WOULD BE WRONG!
dragonddff 2 years ago
I just like the poetic dates in this BS of doom sayers.
Y2K
666
2012 december 21st
12 21 12
oblufire 2 years ago
My world ended the day that Sarah Palin quit her job as Governor of Arkansas.
1940jan 2 years ago
I hope the world will end so I don't have to start paying down on my student loan.
Othelie 2 years ago
I'm looking forward to 2013.. But yikes! Next I'll have to wait til 2028??
Yeah it's just a cycle. Even if the Mayans DID think this was the end of the world, it doesn't mean they were right!
Brianswers 2 years ago
King, by the way.
According to the Mayans, the world won't end. Civilization, and man as we know ourselves will end. A great change to a new beginning.
Whether a bunch of natural disasters happen, and we are force to live as primitives. OR humans begin to reach their next stage of evolution. Something will change.
dragonddff 2 years ago
Actually, according the Mayans, NOTHING is going to end in 2012 other than THAT calendar.
NOTHING will change.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
A lot of these comments are based on the misconception that the Mayan calendar predict the end of the world in 2012... It doesn't, it just goes on to the next cycle, like the Western calendar does on December 31. Will the world end then? Of course not!
RagingGolo 2 years ago
Misconceptions Eh?Learn your Mayan Mythology. The long count is as much about religion as it was about astronomy. What day you were born on decided your fate.
To the Mayans, a calender is A LOT MORE than just a calendar.
Your ignorance is impressive... IF the long count dose not signal the end of this cycle, then what dose it mean? There has to be a reason for the extra numbers right? I hate when Christians, and Atheists talk about Pagan stuff. They never have a clue what they are talking about.
dragonddff 2 years ago
And I hate it when spazoids talk about pseudoscience like it's real.
TheRedneckAtheist 2 years ago
"Learn your Mayan Mythology." Dragon, the woman I was quoting from the article is a Mayan History PROFESSOR!!!!
She says you are full of it. Does SHE need to learn her Mayan mythology?
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Mayan history, and Mayan mythology are diff.
I was a Mayan Reconstructionist. I am rather confident in my ability to understand a religious belief I once followed.
Modern Mayan Shamans think something will happen. And as any one mildly interested in history knows, the locals tend to know more than the "Professors"...
BUT TO ANSWER YOUR Q!: YES!!! She dose indeed.
dragonddff 2 years ago
By the way. When I say "Mayan Shamans", or "Locals" I tend to be speaking of the near extinct Mayan tribes in the Yucatan. <<< If they are not qualified to say how the Mayan though, WHO IS???
ALSO King. You dismiss that it means the end of a cycle of man, and a beginning of a new. (Meaning the end of man, and it's recreation.)
HOWEVER, you offer no alternative.
IF in fact it DOSE NOT mean the end... Enlighten me as to it's meaning. (Obviously it is a cycle, but a cycle of WHAT exactly.)
dragonddff 2 years ago
It's a cycle...just like our calendar comes in a 12 month cycle....theirs is a cycle based on astrological estimations. Some of which have been proven FALSE!
KingHeathen 2 years ago
She does....ok....so she has a DOCTORATE in the field...what's YOUR level of education on the subject?
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Whatever you believe does not give you the right to act like an arsehole. By the way, the word 'mythology' should be your first clue.
What made the Mayans so different from the Ancient Greeks or Egyptians in terms of mythology that makes them any more accurate in your opinion?
RagingGolo 2 years ago
Did I say they were more accurate?
If I did, it's just an opinion.
dragonddff 2 years ago
I asked that question knowing full well it would be only an opinion. I'm quite curious about this.
By 'more accurate' I suppose I want to know why you'd specialise in Mayan rather than other polytheistic mythology
RagingGolo 2 years ago
Mayan, Aztec... There is something about their beliefs that speak to me in a way I can't explain. Even the darker stuff.
The Cultures, Religion, and People fascinate me. I Feel as if I can connect to them, know how they worked.
I Tried Asatru (Norse Heathenism), I tried Hellenist Reconstructionism (Greek Paganism), I tried Shinto, I tried Wicca, AND I tried various others. None of them spoke to me the same way.
While I have little native blood, I have always felt more Native American than euro.
dragonddff 2 years ago
Yeah, I can see what you mean. The old and minor religions are fascinating. Though I will admit to knowing more about the Greeks and Egyptians than the Mayans, but you knew that already.
RagingGolo 2 years ago
PS: I Don't buy into this 1012 doomsday stuff.
I WISH something would happen, but i realize it's not very probable.
The only reason I am being an "arsehole", is because I don't like when people talk like they know.
King is NOT qualified to talk about this. It's clear in his responses. Rather than actually discuss it, and use facts to find the truth.
He desperately clings to the word of professors, which he probably saw on sites which took their words out of context.
dragonddff 2 years ago
He keeps quoting them, and dosen't think for himself. He is spewing out "Facts" he has probably NOT double checked.
He has done a few hours of "Research" (Probably on 2012 sites where skeptics and believers pull shit out of their asses, and label them as "Facts")
IT PISSES ME OFF (As you can tell from my 2 page rant XD)
dragonddff 2 years ago
Oh, that impressive ignorance bit was a red rag to a bull - that was bound to get an impassioned response. So sorry about that.
Although the bit about why your answer to my question about your opinion certainly changed mine.
RagingGolo 2 years ago
Yeah that was a bit much. But, I am just so sick of it.
This controversy about 2012, has warped the Maya into something they are not.
Seeing someone I usually tend to agree with, saying stuff that I KNOW is false... I don't know, I guess I snapped XD.
dragonddff 2 years ago
LMAO!
Sorry, with me knowing the actual truth behind that scenario and you trying to read your crystal ball to guess at it...I find your entire reply LAUGHABLE!
Not to mention your "facts" are a bit off...
but again, I'm done with the conversation. Feel free to think that your 4 years of amateur study outweigh people with 8 year doctorates and decades of continued study.
And no, I went to exactly ZERO 2012 sites.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
They were? Which ones?
To be Honest I think we have had a communication error. I doubt you understand my stance, nor do you want to. In fact, I am sure you stereotyped me from the get go.
I am 17. When I was 7, when my obsession was Dinosaurs, I met a man named "George D. Stanley"... I called him the "Dino Man".
ANYWAYS THE POINT:
Me and him had a talk about Dinosaurs. He told me that I knew more than the collage kids he taught. A 7YEAR OLD with a COLLAGE grade understanding of Dinosaurs.
dragonddff 2 years ago
LOL...you shouldn't have said that.
So, I'm supposed to think someone without a high school diploma has a better grasp of this than I do or college professors?
I'm sure "Dino Man" was just being nice.
I remember when I was 17...I thought I knew it all too.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Ah I see. You won't even bother to listen... Because you are scared of being corrected by a teen.
Besides that, I doubt College professors would disagree with me. You keep saying I am wrong, but you wont tell me how.
IF I AM WRONG I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT! If I am wrong, I NEED to know. Because I plan on being an Archaeologists.
Please, tell me which of my Facts were wrong. Explain to me HOW they were wrong < This is something you have not done.
dragonddff 2 years ago
My birthday is December 21. I think its false for sure though.
dragonbow0 2 years ago
ha, mine is 22nd of dec. At least you'll enjoy part of your birthday. Lol, not that i think much of this dooms day tripe. At least it gave hollywood another idea for some bullshit move.
FlantheFenian 2 years ago
The end of time is when the batteries die in my clock.
medicatedsaint 2 years ago
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DeadFishFactory 2 years ago
Yeah, I guess so. This list was from the Live Science website.
ezmorningrebel 2 years ago
i just want to say that i stopped listening after the words' 'mayan prophecy'. you don't need anything else to realise the argument abou the end of the world is ridiculous, because:
1. modern science beats mayan science
2. 'prophecies' never fail to be wrong
illbetilbake 2 years ago
2013 will be too late to talk! lol
bullwhipjesus 2 years ago
highly amusing
cheeseit126 2 years ago
He didn't make it up though, the Mayans did! Just because it's made up doesn't mean it's not true!
ArandurKing909 2 years ago
ArandurKing,
While I suppose that's technically correct, the fact that it's "made up" means the likelihood of it being true is infinitesimally small.
What are the chances that an ancient Mayan shaman could predict the exact moment of the end of the world AND all our empirically-based science be off by billions of years???
EyeLean5280 2 years ago
Oh hey, that makes sense.
ArandurKing909 2 years ago
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ScienceBytes 2 years ago
I'm writing a book right now. Everything in it is made up. Does that mean it'll come true eventually?
ScienceBytes 2 years ago
Yes, eventually it will in like, 2000 years after Obama blow's us all up!
ArandurKing909 2 years ago
Some folks are just plain superstitious!
KanadaDry 2 years ago
Thanks for doing this one - about time somebody did.....
healthyaddict 2 years ago
see a brief history of the apocalypse at abhota (dot) info
smalltownatheist 2 years ago
I can't wait 'til 11/11/2011
peacebwithu97 2 years ago
ezmorningrebel 2 years ago
What I don't understand is ... many Christians buy into this nonsense. Don't Christians normally consider everything non-Christian to be ... PAGAN?
So all of a sudden, the Mayan Calendar is more accurate than the Christian Bible. Why pussy-foot around? Why not go all the way with Mayan Religion!?!
SONofMADman 2 years ago
@SOMofMADman you have a point, lets start sacrificing conspiracy theorists to the Mayan gods. :P
Brianswers 2 years ago
It's even clear of the Mayan Calender indicates the end of the cycle.
An example of how it's written would be 13.19.8.4.5.
12-21-12 will be 13.0.0.0.0. The mechanics of the calender aren't understand well enough to know whether or not the intent was to reset to 0.0.0.0.0 or continue onward to 20, in which case 12-22-12 would simply be 14.0.0.0.1 and the end of the Long Count would be sometime around 8000 AD
tommylehman 2 years ago
3:50
The Bible, maybe?
randomdd123 2 years ago
this is a big win man fuck these doomsday's they have never happen
WarheadAttack 2 years ago
Just look up end of the world dates. And you'll see that basically every year for the last 300 years the world has been predicted to end. Just look back to 2000 everything was supposed to end then too.
ihavtugo 2 years ago
I wish 2012 would be the end of bullshit superstition and bogus prophecies... aka RELIGION. ;)
siciliano29 2 years ago
The idea of the world ending in 2012 is preposterous; however, considering the number of people that actually believe the myth, I'm compelled to entertain the possibility that this would be a great night for a party.
Checking my calendar, I see that 12/21/12 happens to fall on a Friday. Perhaps a true believer will agree to spending his life savings on expensive beer and wine for the event!
Y'all are invited!
georgem21275 2 years ago
or a good for a terrorist group to try to fulfill the prophecy. Sometimes the belief in a prophecy can imply its fulfillment, like in star wars :O
DanielCriticalMX 2 years ago
@DanielCriticalMX
Haha or like in the Bible!
reiverdaemon 2 years ago
tru, tru
DanielCriticalMX 2 years ago
So a Myan sculpter decided to take a rest, and now the world ends... yeah right.
If I had a dollar for every year doomsday was supposed to come, I would be one rich bastard.
In my own short lifetime I can count six times, and that's without even researching.
MakoSharkX 2 years ago
I think this whole thing is as easily explainable as this:
The Mayans had just finished the plotting of that cycle, which took a long time because they had to CHISEL IT INTO ROCK, when suddenly some white guys showed up and killed them all, rendering the calendar unfinished. Centuries later, people hear about this calendar, which they don't know is simply unfinished due to its authors being killed before they could complete it. So chaos ensues and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
338dmac 2 years ago
lol 338dmac... So, in a way, this idea of the world ending in 2012 can be relegated to the phenomenon of white guilt!
georgem21275 2 years ago
Hmm, I never thought of it that way... :D
338dmac 2 years ago
The mayans were a fantastic civilisation, far ahead of many others at the time, but does that mean they could accurately predict the end of the world? Absolutely not.
Even living mayan descendants don't believe the 2012 "prophecy"
bobble12221 2 years ago
The Christians have been predicting the end for centuries and nutjobs have crawled from every nook and cranny every two to three years with some other apocalypse idea. This is just the latest in a long series of lame schemes.
AzmodanKijur 2 years ago
You should have ended this video differently with:
"Don't take my word for it, SEE for yourself"
ProcInc 2 years ago
"self described expert" lol, you just gotta love that kind of capitalism.
combined with PT Barnum's line "there's a sucker born every minute" , we can rest assured we'll never run out of "experts" cashing in on fear.
this reminded me of the YT guy - Von Helton - claiming a couple months ago that there was a 50/50 chance that a wandering 'brown dwarf' called Hellion 1957 was going to impact our sun and cause theEnd to come.
its been The End Times my whole life.
gothatfunk 2 years ago
Every year on January 1st I wake up astonished that the world didn't end when my calendar did. I live in fear that my clock will stop.
FractalHelix777 2 years ago
lol, that's great!
*winds watch*
gothatfunk 2 years ago
I think the Mayans were actually referring to the film '2012', which is set to be so bad it'll cause the universe to implode.
Hey it's as valid as any other doomsday prediction.
Panman38 2 years ago
This may actually be possible!
KingHeathen 2 years ago
December 22nd, 2012:
Sorry. Our bad. You still need to shop for gifts. The actual year is 2112. We promise this time. Really. It's gonna happen. Just you wait and see.
pakratmak 2 years ago
LOL people actually believe this stuff.
My prediction: on December 24th, after all these nut jobs rush to get their Christmas shopping done at the last minute, seeing as the world didn't end like they thought, is that they'll just say, "oh, something happened. We just don't know what it is. The end is coming blah blah blah," until everyone forgets about this in a few years.
ezmorningrebel 2 years ago
I'll bet you're right lol
spiritconsumer 2 years ago
Remember though, we are still running on limited knowledge.
The Mayans supposidly have a more accurate time system than we do, and we ourselves have noticed that, some how, theres supposed to be a galactic alignment and possibly a pole shift on the same date that the mayans calender restarts. Question, WHY did they choose there calender to restart the dates that they do. Thats the real question. I am skeptical, but I'm not calling it bullshit yet, there is somewhat of a scientific backbone.
JarethGT 2 years ago
well a pole shift would not happen over night . it would take thousands of years and we would never feel it. but something else could happen .who knows . hopefully not though.
tonyagrestic 2 years ago
No man the Aztec calendar is true! But the Mayan calendar is complete bullshit though. I mean who would believe the Mayans anyway?
zbambam5 2 years ago
I remember watching Nova a while back and Neil DeGrasse Tyson laughed at the Earth, Sun and center of the galaxy aligning by saying "Yea, that happens every year on that date" lol
Brewhahh 2 years ago
I just checked and my calendar ends on December 31st this year.
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!
I want someone who believes this crap to sell me there house for a reduced rate as long as I pay them up front and I let them live there till January 1st 2013
Yes I watched Bullshit.
rarrmonkey 2 years ago
lol Brilliant video, i think the same. Also when they say the Earth and Sun line up with the galactic center what they fail to mention is that this happens every year, every time the Earth goes aroung the Sun, lol they make me laugh.
peteq1972 2 years ago
this one was pretty funny.
GuppyPal 2 years ago
Ya know what?
I'm a go to celestia right now and see if this "galactic alignment" really happens.
Herufaia 2 years ago
He has a lot of 'reasons' for his belief. Problem is he can't differentiate between 'coincidence' and 'good reason'. For conspiracy theorists, religious folk, and alien/2012 believers, it's all the same. They can't be reasonable because they never EVER try to falsify hypothesis. Contrariwise, they ignore any falsification no matter how contradictory or how indisputable any fact ever is.
This is the definition of delusional. Ridicule, perhaps surprisingly, is not the right medicine.
newexperiment 2 years ago
It's LITERALLY not unlike Lars and the real girl.
newexperiment 2 years ago
I actualy saw that movie, weard movie
pbrskater26 2 years ago
A lot of people are taking it as factual, like thay know it's going to happen.
7d7e7f7 2 years ago
...Maybe they just ran out of room on their rock.
XmcmuffinsX 2 years ago
Back with Y2K, I was sure either the entire universe would blow up, or my computer would self-destruct, OR, when I walked out of my house (if it was still there), I'd encounter a world of top-hat and monacle wearers, with moustaches and canes, and people would be busily trying to invent an airplane. Either the end of the world, or back to the beginning of the cycle.
I'm a bit miffed, actually, as I wanted to take a trip to British India. The month-long cruise would be hard, though!
Rationalific 2 years ago
Mayans also ate crickets
metalorg 2 years ago
KingHeathen, you should check out the user Antichrist666 or something like that. He made a video about his own prophecy. It is so crazy it's hilarious.
UncomfortableSilence 2 years ago
I believe that Neil Tyson DeGrasse, a well known astronomer, has addressed the alignment of the earth, centre of the milky way, and sun. Apparently it will happen on the predicted date, and does happen every single year with no negative consequences.
kosmoincalgary 2 years ago
In 2013 I think I will start to market "I survived 2012" T-shirts
ItsDaSuperFly 2 years ago
Cool! Can I preorder?
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
You tell me how to get one. I'll be first in line.
XmcmuffinsX 2 years ago
2012, i am hoping to throw a 2012 party, so me and my friends can all die together. or have a big 2012 stickam party. we all get drunk on camera so when the 600 tide waves come we can die and not feel it. lol.
freethinker3161 2 years ago
Now I want to ask FT3161, did you see the dateline special?
jay666KJ 2 years ago
ya i was not impressed.
freethinker3161 2 years ago
Someone told me that the worst that could happen is the earth shifting it's magnetic poles. I didn't bother to do any research, but I know an even like that lasts 50,000 years or so, and has happened many times before.
All sound rather silly to me. How could the mayans even know of a black hole? Even a supermassive black hole in the center of the galaxy? Maybe the archeologists doing the translating are on shrooms. . .
MrDylaneric 2 years ago
I saw 2012 the day it came out and in motion seats. It was awesome! Anyway, I watched the dateline special, and Iv seen the history channel special more then twice. The second I saw Shermer saying its bullshit, I was like hmmm...Then as it went on, I didnt see a shred of evidence for 2012, it was terrible. I was actually pretty offended at how bad it truly was.
jay666KJ 2 years ago
The dateline special was basically some nut job who bases all of it on a pseudoscientific [the bases for the entire prophecy, and is called fake science by Shermer. They also said many or some like the nut job tie Atlantis into 2012, it talked about the bible code and was quickly disproved by a priest or pastor. So we we have a jewish mathematician, a skeptic like Shermer and now a pastor or priest who say TBC is bullshit. Wonderful!!!!! =]
jay666KJ 2 years ago
Then it went into the nut job who says Martians experienced 2012, and moved here, and his evidence for life on mars? A picture of a fuckin face on mars, and calls it a fucking sculpture. The special never shows that the picture of the face wasnt created, but simply from one picture of it, it looks like a face, but closer it doesnt at all. But seriously? A piece of mars resembles a human face, so aliens exist? Creationist *sigh* So sick of it...
jay666KJ 2 years ago
The special was just so insulting to my intellect, and MOST of the claims werent even challenged, and even when they were, it didnt even dwell into it at all. All I saw was creationist arguments [landscape on mars resembles face, therefor aliens exist.] fake science, and assertion, after assertion. It was terrible. It had some one [like a mayan scholar] walk towards a newly found mayan artifact, and explained the symbolism and the sport they played to explain it was all about a rebirth.
jay666KJ 2 years ago
I want to ask, did you see the dateline special KH? If so, what was your reaction? Mine was just amazement at how bad it was.
jay666KJ 2 years ago
no...I'm not interested in watching any of those shows as I see them as just as bad as the people claiming this stuff is true. They are fanning the flames because it's profitable. Stuff like this should only be laughed at and called on its bullshit. That's why I liked the article. It never once gave any credence to the idea that the 2012 crap had ANY validity and it made that clear from the start.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Oh, yeah? If the world isn't ending in December of 2012, why does my credit card expire that month?
8WholeThing 2 years ago
LOL @ 1:32! He's obviously not a trained astronomer or cosmologist either.
An alignment of the Earth, Sun, and the Milky Way? How do you align an entire galaxy with just one of its millions of stars AND one of the planets orbiting said star? I wonder if these people actually realize that the sun is a star, or if they're just ignoring that fact willingly.
TheOmniNerd 2 years ago
he ment the center of the Milky Way
xXShmotzXx 2 years ago
actually the milky way is going to go through a shift phase which means absolutely nothing except what they based their calendar on.
anubis2814 2 years ago
The Alignment of the earth, sun and center of the galaxy happens every year on December 21. Search youtube for Neil DeGrasse Tyson 2012. He is a REAL LIFE astrophysicist who explains the whole thing!
pballAbe 2 years ago
I mean to say the alignment will happen as the 2012 people say it will. But unfortunately it's not the end of the world.
pballAbe 2 years ago
unfortunately?
I'd be quite put off if it really did end in 2012
JackWisps 2 years ago
2012 = Y2K
In other words, fun to play with, but otherwise meaningless and arbitrary.
glasshammer52 2 years ago
I saw quite a few people in dept stores over the last few days in my little fundie town in the Southern USA. I would venture a guess that 90% are Christians. They were buying toys for Xmas!! If they were thinking the end is coming, why buy toys for their kids? Shouldn't they be stocking shelves with food or maybe taking trips to exotic places to fulfill their dreams before their doom? I wonder what the % of theists actually believe in this crap? I would just stock lots of beer and get wasted.
saxmanchiro 2 years ago
hehe, love it!
The only thing I see happening AT MOST is what I feared AT MOST would happen for y2k - a FEW people would freak out/go bonkers and impede my going on with my day. Otherwise there were a few fun collectibles (I still have my notepad block with an atom and 01-01-00 on the side sitting right here on my desk).
Snackar 2 years ago
VIRGIN BIRTHS!?!?! That's RIDICULOUS! What idiot would believe in that sort of thing!? Surely you'd never see anything like that in modern times, that's for sure...
...oh yeah, never mind.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
I've heard a 2012 theory that the Earth is gonna be in the exact center of the universe on 12/21/2012, and that that'll bring about a cataclysm.
Never mind the fact that the Milky Way is being repelled away from the center of the universe. Ignoring that small detail, consider the vastness of the universe when compared to Earth... what are the odds of that particular 2012 rumor actually being true? And why on earth would it cause the end of the world?
chinchychilla 2 years ago
what is sad is the fact that people believe this 2012 crap and will sell their homes and cash out their 401k's.
TheUnmaskedMagician 2 years ago
The Mayans killed ppl to bring back the new seasons. Wisdom and reasoning FAIL!
Ep1cure 2 years ago
For this prophecy to come true requires one of two things :
1. The Mayans had superior scientific knowledge to 21st century scientists and were able to detect/predict naturalistic events modern science cannot
2. They used supernatural powers to see the future
Given that there has never been one single shred of evidence that Mayan science is superior in any field of science to current understanding and that supernatural powers have never been demonstrated to exist
2012 is bullshit
MoreSciFiThanScience 2 years ago