So, we can be fairly certain that the aim of the Ittihadists was not just to the threat of Armenian guerrilas but to (at the very least) ethnically cleanse Anatolia of its Armenians.
And we can be certain that in the process of this brutal response, many Armenians were killed.
So, genocide or not, it was an grossly disproportionate response and an awful crime.
4. Elements of the Ittihadists (Committee for Union & Progress) openly spoke of the need to "cleanse Anataolia of seditious minorities" to avoid the disasters that befell the Ottoman's in the Balkans.
5. Members of the Ottoman Empire's wartime allies (Germany & Austro-Hungary) declared that the real aim of the Ottomans was the expulsion and extermination of Christians.
I am neither Christian or Muslim, so I will provide a neutral opinion. There is no doubt that the Ottomans faced the threat of Armenian guerrillas and had to respond, but we must consider that:
1. Armenians were deported from areas that were far from the front line, in which they constituted a small minority (such as Ankara & Konya).
2. Women, children & the elderly were deported.
3. The destination (the deserts of Der Zor) was the most hostile part of the Ottoman Empire.
They made a lie and trying to make everybody to believe this lie! When Ottomans was under attack armenians betrayed them with taking side of enemy and killed tousands of innocent people! Because of that Ottomans forced armenians to leave Anatolia! During this departing prosess some armenians died with cold and hunger but it is defenetly not a genocide!
er heerst een anti sfeer in het westen. dit is deels uit vrees. immers onbekend maakt onbemind. maar vaak is het uit jaloezie hoor.
Turken zijn altijd in staat geweest om zich te verdedigen en wanneer je verliest moet je wel mans genoeg zijn om je leed te accepteren. netzo in kibris kwestie.
if you like so much the ottoman ''tolerance'', why you don't accept the same ''tolerance'' from others against you?
Do you want to live in the same conditions???
WTF?
greeks never committed genocide upon the armenians and we always respected them.
The byzantine ''persecution'' had nothing to do with human rights but it was more a religious problem to determine who must have the leadership of orthodox chiristian patriarchies.
if you like so much the ottoman ''tolerance'', why you don't accept the same ''tolerance'' from others against you?
Do you want to live in the same conditions???
WTF?
greeks never committed genocide upon the armenians and we always respected them.
The byzantine ''persecution'' had nothing to do with human rights but it was more a religious problem to determine who must have the leadership of orthodox chiristian patriarchies.
as an armenian I would say it's interesting to read about positive elements in the ottoman period. But Turks themselves rebelled against ottoman corruption and injustice in 1909. In 1461 Sultan Mehmed II was interested in bringing life to Constantinople after the capture and destruction in 1453. Armenians were loyal subjects. The ottomans needed peace in Anatolia to concentrate on wars in the Balkans. Even parts of Anatolia like Adana were not taken by the Ottomans until 1516
turkije heeft de eu niet nodig zeg jij maar de turken wel de eu, anders blijven ze hier ook niet en blijven ze ook niet komen! Wat doe jij zelf nog hier? En waarom zijn julie de enige die over een turkse genocide hebben? Hoe kan dat, ik dacht dat julie altijd beweerden dat julie onoverwinnelijk waren? Zo schaamteloos zijn julie! Bah Bah Bah!
Christ is on the side of truth. Christ is on the side of the Armenians and Greeks. The truth has been revealed, and the Turks will be held accountable for their actions.
the narrator is very biased. by her manipulative vocabulary it is obvious that she wants to cover up ottoman atrocities. i also note that she is british. that comes as no surprise.
this is what I had to say.. please first read from below and then to above (sorry for my bad english, i'm from the netherlands, &i ain't that good in english)
yes, I don't doubt bout armenian also killing turkish people, but I think that was revenge.& i don't say it was good,it was also bad,revenge=never good.
&they also did this cause they are tired of turkey denying the genocide.Violence is never good,for what reason. Turkey did a horrible thing.
The armenian genocide is a forgotten genocide.But one day it will get the attention that it deserves.
The people who got killed, the people who had a good heart will return,& there will be no more pain/ suffer/ wars etc.I only say to u, whom deny the Armenian Genocide,inshallah one day yur eyes/ears will open & u will see/hear the truth,then talk bout who did wrong nd who didn't.& bout armenian who never gonna open their sources? What scandal did we do, for not opening our sources? We didn't killed 1,5 million turkish people, only cause of their religion.
But these are my words.This is what I feel,& I just wanted to show my point of view,my thoughts bout this cruel thing that happened with my people.God saw evrything, & one day,all the people will know the truth,& that's when Hermagadon will come, the last day. Murders/liars/thiefs will get punished if they don't regret their actions,& if they don't ask for forgivness(only if it's pure from their hearts)
Everytime when I read about the Armenian Genocide,I can't read it without tears dropping down.Cause I'm a good person,I'm a believer,& I don't believe in murder/lies & hate. Every human who has a good heart is like this.And if yu're a good person,U should recognize the armenian genocide.Cause it wás a genocide.Armenian people, were killed only bcause they were christian.
R.I.P, those 1,5 million innocent armenian men,woman &children.God forgive those turkish/kurdish people who killed those armenian people(MY people) with their own bare hands.&forgive those young armenian who thought they could return their families/friends &loved ones by taking refence on the turkish who killed their dear ones.
No one is disputing the historical facts such as the Armenians were granted second class citizenship with certain religious and cultural tolerances. Yes many Armenians achieved high status within the Empire and lived relatively good live's. Armenians lived in the same lands for over 3000 years, thats why close to 3000 churches and monasteries have been erased in modern Turkey to hide the truth. Your facts are tainted by half truths.
this is really good historical source that every boady needs to see really ninice thank you so much we need this kind of english sources to see the truths
Garabet Artin Davut Pasha Ambassador for Vienna (1856 — 1857)/ Governor of Lebanon (1861) Minister of Post Telephone Telegraph and Public Works Ministries (1868)
Krikor Sinapyan Minister of Public Works
Krikor Ağaton Post Telephone Telegraph General Manager (1864)
Jorj Serpos Efendi Turkey Telegraphs General Secretary (1868)
Serkis Efendi Confidential Secretary in Foreign Affairs (1870 — 1871)
Ovakim K. Reisyan Court Chairman of Vize Town in Istanbul (1879)/ Preparatory Court Chairman of Chios (1885)/ Preparatory Court Chairman of Rhodes (1887)
We, Turkish Armenians, as being the most crowded Christian community living in Turkey celebrate 75th year of our country with enthusiasm, we sincerely believe in the bright future of Republic of Turkey and we have great expectations for future."
SOME OF ARMENIANS WHO WERE AT DUTY IN THE OTTOMAN STATE
With pleasure and gratitude, we commemorate Sultan Mehmed the Conqueror who offered a new life for the Armenian community within the borders of the Empire according to their own customs and practice, the statesmen who served the country following Mehmed's steps, and our 83 patriarchs, beginning with the first Istanbul Armenian Patriarch appointed in 1461, Hovagim of Bursa, all of whom served this position faithfully.
If we consider present tensions in the world and especially the wars in our neighbors in the eve of a new millenium, I suppose we can comprehend better the value of this event, which occurred 538 years ago and the importance of tolerance between religions and cultures.
In history, it has never been seen neither before Mehmed nor after him that a ruler who is a disciple of a certain religion establish a spiritual presidency for the disciples of an another religion.
Sultan Mehmet the Conqueror's converting the Armenian episcopalism in Western Anatolia into Istanbul Patriarchate with a firman in 1461, eight years after he conquered Istanbul, is a clear example of his and Ottoman Empire's future vision and tolerance they showed to all religions.
However, among the ones we left behind there are also many events which we will always remember with respect and celebrate with pleasure in the coming milleniums.
As we celebrate today...
The foundation of Istanbul Armenian Patriarchate is an unique event in the history of world.
Respect to human life and individual rights and freedoms, and a world lawful and far away from all types of violence are common aspirations for all of us.
This milestone in front of us is offering not only a unique opportunity but also a difficult test. The second millenium, which we are preparing to leave behind, is full of tragic events
"We are at the brink of the third millenium. We are preparing to celebrate the beginning of a new period in the History of Humanity. I think that this is a great chance for all of us. The chance of designating our future with the dreams of unity of cultures and nations...
Perhaps the most striking statements about Ottoman-Armenian relations were submitted in person by the Armenian community in Turkey. Armenian Patriarch Mesrob II used the expressions below in his speech in the reception in Hilton Hotel on May 22, 1999:
Abdulhamid period and so on. In addition, many Armenians worked as counselors to Ottoman statesmen.
The Armenian community always lived in a tolerant and free environment, like all the other minorities and non-Muslims in the Ottoman Empire. They were not a community which was exposed to a massacre as claimed but a community who held important positions and practiced important professions in every level of state administration.
later Ministers of Mint from the Duzyan family of Divrik and palace doctors from Sasyan family. In the 19th century, there were Ministers of Mint from Bezciyan family and Ministers of Powder-mill from Dadyan family. Also, there were Armenian foreign affairs officials and ministers in the 19th century and
Armenians' fidelity towards the Ottoman State, their adaptation of Turkish customs and even their speaking Turkish well ensured Armenians to be appointed to high and responsible positions of the state. With regard to this fact, in the 16th century, there were statesmen who were promoted to the post of vizier like Mehmet Pasha of Armenian origin. In the 18th century, there were palace jewelers and
Armenians were always treated first class citizens as the other non-Muslims were. They did not do military service, furthermore, they gained important positions in society and became rich especially by obtaining key points in commercial life.
The Ottoman State announced the reforms to be made in Gulhane Decree but non-Muslims were not pleased with these new rights given. Non-Muslims were obliged to do military service and they could also charged with official duty or attend civil and military schools. As a result of this, Armenians had the government ratify the Armenian Nation Regulations, which came into force in 1863 and consisted of 99 articles
As it is seen in the statement above, the Armenian Patriarch says that the Armenians under Turkish rule have preserved their identities and he thanks for the rights offered by the Ottoman State.
Because of this, Armenians can not remain indifferent during wars and hardships facing the state. On the contrary, they are obliged to help the state as they have always done. The Armenian who loves his homeland and who will help the state, will receive the best service of his own nation."
Armenian Patriarch Nerses stated, in his letter, to the Citizenship Assembly Council in 1876 that "If by any chance the Armenian nation has been preserved as a nation and if it is preserving its beliefs, its church, language, history and cultural values, all these are due to the protection, help and benevolence shown by the Turkish government to the Armenian nation. Fate bounds Armenians to Turks.
In addition, many Armenian young men were sent to European universities and schools to be educated in various fields and learn art. Nevertheless, Armenians living under Russian rule were not given these rights at that period.
In a period of three hundred and fifty years from Sultan Mehmed the Conqueror to Sultan Mahmut II, religious and social affairs of Christians, as well as the Armenians, were certainly not interfered with. Many schools, printing-houses and libraries were established with the help of Armenian bankers (then called Amira), merchants and civil officials.
Armenians, who received the attention of the Ottoman Empire, an attention, which they had never received in their history from any other state or any other ruler, became sincerely fond of the Ottoman State and the Turkish nation. Because of this reason, in a short time great numbers of Armenians immigrated to Istanbul from various places, and formed a big community. Thus, they became one of the world's most prosperous communities.
Sultan Mehmed the Conqueror, on his own initiative transferred Hovakim, the Armenian spiritual leader in Bursa, to Istanbul after he conquered Istanbul in 1453. In 1461, he had Armenian Patriarchate established as well as the Byzantine Greek Patriarchate, and he ensured Armenians to be controlled by this Patriarch. Following Sultan Selim's (Selim I) conquest of South Caucasia and Eastern Anatolia in 1514-1516,
The first relations of Armenians with Ottomans started in the western region of Anatolia, where Armenians were a small minority. After Bursa was made the capital city of the state by Osman Ghazi (Sultan Osman I) in 1324, most of the Armenians in Kutahya and the Armenian spiritual chieftain were transferred to this city.
In the first years of the Ottoman Empire, Armenians were scattered as small princedoms and emirates. They were living as subjects of Iran, Byzantine Empire, Georgian and Seldjukian States and the other small emirates located generally in Cukurova, Eastern Anatolia and Caucasus regions.
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bvnbmklopvcxzas 1 year ago
Oh yeah the Turks were gracious people, very generous cock suckers, well known to the whole world except to the motherfucker who made this video.
mizadorian 1 year ago
So, we can be fairly certain that the aim of the Ittihadists was not just to the threat of Armenian guerrilas but to (at the very least) ethnically cleanse Anatolia of its Armenians.
And we can be certain that in the process of this brutal response, many Armenians were killed.
So, genocide or not, it was an grossly disproportionate response and an awful crime.
jraider2 2 years ago
4. Elements of the Ittihadists (Committee for Union & Progress) openly spoke of the need to "cleanse Anataolia of seditious minorities" to avoid the disasters that befell the Ottoman's in the Balkans.
5. Members of the Ottoman Empire's wartime allies (Germany & Austro-Hungary) declared that the real aim of the Ottomans was the expulsion and extermination of Christians.
jraider2 2 years ago
I am neither Christian or Muslim, so I will provide a neutral opinion. There is no doubt that the Ottomans faced the threat of Armenian guerrillas and had to respond, but we must consider that:
1. Armenians were deported from areas that were far from the front line, in which they constituted a small minority (such as Ankara & Konya).
2. Women, children & the elderly were deported.
3. The destination (the deserts of Der Zor) was the most hostile part of the Ottoman Empire.
jraider2 2 years ago
Propaganda
ArsacidDynasty 2 years ago
They made a lie and trying to make everybody to believe this lie! When Ottomans was under attack armenians betrayed them with taking side of enemy and killed tousands of innocent people! Because of that Ottomans forced armenians to leave Anatolia! During this departing prosess some armenians died with cold and hunger but it is defenetly not a genocide!
knowtruth11 2 years ago
I can't believe how one can even watch this propaganda
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ayyildiz60 3 years ago
very good
okffr 3 years ago
Armenians used to be good allies. Now they r victim of a terrible lie.
Havayosunu 3 years ago
er heerst een anti sfeer in het westen. dit is deels uit vrees. immers onbekend maakt onbemind. maar vaak is het uit jaloezie hoor.
Turken zijn altijd in staat geweest om zich te verdedigen en wanneer je verliest moet je wel mans genoeg zijn om je leed te accepteren. netzo in kibris kwestie.
mamasun68 3 years ago
if you like so much the ottoman ''tolerance'', why you don't accept the same ''tolerance'' from others against you?
Do you want to live in the same conditions???
WTF?
greeks never committed genocide upon the armenians and we always respected them.
The byzantine ''persecution'' had nothing to do with human rights but it was more a religious problem to determine who must have the leadership of orthodox chiristian patriarchies.
greekaiser 3 years ago
if you like so much the ottoman ''tolerance'', why you don't accept the same ''tolerance'' from others against you?
Do you want to live in the same conditions???
WTF?
greeks never committed genocide upon the armenians and we always respected them.
The byzantine ''persecution'' had nothing to do with human rights but it was more a religious problem to determine who must have the leadership of orthodox chiristian patriarchies.
greekaiser 3 years ago
as an armenian I would say it's interesting to read about positive elements in the ottoman period. But Turks themselves rebelled against ottoman corruption and injustice in 1909. In 1461 Sultan Mehmed II was interested in bringing life to Constantinople after the capture and destruction in 1453. Armenians were loyal subjects. The ottomans needed peace in Anatolia to concentrate on wars in the Balkans. Even parts of Anatolia like Adana were not taken by the Ottomans until 1516
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barbaros1pasa 3 years ago
KILL THE FUCKING TURKS
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you Turkish cunts. the day will come when your government will be forced to recognize the crimes committed against the Armenian people
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barbaros1pasa 3 years ago
turkije heeft de eu niet nodig zeg jij maar de turken wel de eu, anders blijven ze hier ook niet en blijven ze ook niet komen! Wat doe jij zelf nog hier? En waarom zijn julie de enige die over een turkse genocide hebben? Hoe kan dat, ik dacht dat julie altijd beweerden dat julie onoverwinnelijk waren? Zo schaamteloos zijn julie! Bah Bah Bah!
newrozundelali26 4 years ago
christ is king my belief
passionwagon33 4 years ago
U fucking greek and armenian bustards.!!Go to hell..
kaaydin 4 years ago 3
Your mother sucks greek and Armenian Cock you dirty muslim mother fucker
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barbaros1pasa 3 years ago
Christ is on the side of truth. Christ is on the side of the Armenians and Greeks. The truth has been revealed, and the Turks will be held accountable for their actions.
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barbaros1pasa 3 years ago
turco ?? fucking bastard , its Turk
199219931994S 4 years ago
the narrator is very biased. by her manipulative vocabulary it is obvious that she wants to cover up ottoman atrocities. i also note that she is british. that comes as no surprise.
doctorsartorius 4 years ago
Where do you even get your records from? Of your grandma's Mongolian Food repices??
mzvzik 4 years ago
kendinizi iyi saklayın LAN ÜLKEMDE FARKEDERSEM SİKERİM
egggggy 4 years ago
haha! armenians are the reazon ottoman empire wuz great dumbasses. ungrateful mongol dogs!
NarekAper818 4 years ago
Ottoman's being great by Armenian people's support is so true. That's why seeing those two old friends' becoming enemies kills me.
Havayosunu 3 years ago
we will never forget xocali genocide in azerbaycan 25.02.1992
bigün amınıza koymaya gelecez pis ermeni dölleri o azerileri öldürdüğünüz yerde askerlerinizi domaltacaz.
qarakechili 4 years ago 5
armenian people bitch or whore. OTTOMAN EMPİRE fucked armenian animal people
Glevec 4 years ago
the turks are great diplomats...that's all.
demestixas 4 years ago
this is what I had to say.. please first read from below and then to above (sorry for my bad english, i'm from the netherlands, &i ain't that good in english)
sieroememkezie 4 years ago
I'm a Armenian,& I love my people,
just like artur30007 says:Armenia 4 ever.And it is, forever.Cause God is with us.God bless the good & the bad.May the 'deaf' open their ears,
&the 'blind' open their eyes.Truth will come out, someday...
sieroememkezie 4 years ago
yes, I don't doubt bout armenian also killing turkish people, but I think that was revenge.& i don't say it was good,it was also bad,revenge=never good.
&they also did this cause they are tired of turkey denying the genocide.Violence is never good,for what reason. Turkey did a horrible thing.
The armenian genocide is a forgotten genocide.But one day it will get the attention that it deserves.
sieroememkezie 4 years ago
The people who got killed, the people who had a good heart will return,& there will be no more pain/ suffer/ wars etc.I only say to u, whom deny the Armenian Genocide,inshallah one day yur eyes/ears will open & u will see/hear the truth,then talk bout who did wrong nd who didn't.& bout armenian who never gonna open their sources? What scandal did we do, for not opening our sources? We didn't killed 1,5 million turkish people, only cause of their religion.
sieroememkezie 4 years ago
But these are my words.This is what I feel,& I just wanted to show my point of view,my thoughts bout this cruel thing that happened with my people.God saw evrything, & one day,all the people will know the truth,& that's when Hermagadon will come, the last day. Murders/liars/thiefs will get punished if they don't regret their actions,& if they don't ask for forgivness(only if it's pure from their hearts)
sieroememkezie 4 years ago
Everytime when I read about the Armenian Genocide,I can't read it without tears dropping down.Cause I'm a good person,I'm a believer,& I don't believe in murder/lies & hate. Every human who has a good heart is like this.And if yu're a good person,U should recognize the armenian genocide.Cause it wás a genocide.Armenian people, were killed only bcause they were christian.
sieroememkezie 4 years ago
I think you confused Ottoman with crusaders. Ottomans let Christians live their belief.
Havayosunu 3 years ago 7
R.I.P, those 1,5 million innocent armenian men,woman &children.God forgive those turkish/kurdish people who killed those armenian people(MY people) with their own bare hands.&forgive those young armenian who thought they could return their families/friends &loved ones by taking refence on the turkish who killed their dear ones.
sieroememkezie 4 years ago
TalatPaşa ve Cemal Paşa'nın katilleri..Önce üzerinizdeki kanları temizleyin...
metalist1907 4 years ago
görsün şerefsizler ermeniler piçin dölleri köpekler
bysamojean 4 years ago
armenians never gonna open their sources.. Cause they know their lie!
istanbulDeftones 4 years ago
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benbirtupcu 4 years ago
the world knows who lie... Armenia 4500 years on Caucaso, turkey 2000. MONGOLS, ANIMALS, KILLERS!!!
kachvartian 4 years ago
thanks for video
talatpajha 4 years ago
No one is disputing the historical facts such as the Armenians were granted second class citizenship with certain religious and cultural tolerances. Yes many Armenians achieved high status within the Empire and lived relatively good live's. Armenians lived in the same lands for over 3000 years, thats why close to 3000 churches and monasteries have been erased in modern Turkey to hide the truth. Your facts are tainted by half truths.
Andranick 4 years ago
why they had to destroy churches and monasteries to hide the truth? Did they include frescos of "genocide"? :)
Havayosunu 3 years ago
armenia 4 ever!!!
artur30007 4 years ago
this is really good historical source that every boady needs to see really ninice thank you so much we need this kind of english sources to see the truths
seyhsamil19 4 years ago
selam kardes cok harika bir calisma gercekelri görun itler
TuranTurkic 4 years ago
Great work brother! Congrats for providing this video and enlightening us about Turkish-Armenian relations.
Historical facts revealed. Now it is Armenia's turn to open their archives.
ustundag 4 years ago
6)Osmanlı Ermenileri. Bilal Şimşir.1986
7)Osmanlı Arşivleri ve Ermeni Sorunu,Türkkaya Ataöv, 1989
uzaklar33 4 years ago
REFERENCES:
1)Türk Devleti Hizmetinde Ermeniler (1453 — 1953), Rahip Komidos Çarkcıyan, Istanbul, 1953
2)British Documents on Ottoman Armenians (4 volumes), 1983, 1989, 1990, Türk Tarih Kurumu
3) Osmanlı İdaresinde Ermeniler, Nejat Göyünç, 1983
4)Tarih Boyunca Türklerin Ermeni Toplumu ile İlişkileri Sempozyumu.Atatürk Üniversitesi.1985
5)Türk Tarihinde Ermeniler (Tebliğler ve Panel Konuşmaları). 9 Eylül Üniversitesi.1985
uzaklar33 4 years ago
Osgan Mardikyan Minister of Post Telephone Telegraph Ministry (1913)
Tomas Terziyan Lecturers in School of Civil Servants
Nişan Guğasyan Lecturers in School of Civil Servants
Tavit Çıracıyan Lecturers in School of Civil Servants
Krikor Zohrab Members of Istanbul in Parliament
Bedros Hallacıyan Members of Istanbul in Parliament
uzaklar33 4 years ago
Garabet Artin Davut Pasha Ambassador for Vienna (1856 — 1857)/ Governor of Lebanon (1861) Minister of Post Telephone Telegraph and Public Works Ministries (1868)
Krikor Sinapyan Minister of Public Works
Krikor Ağaton Post Telephone Telegraph General Manager (1864)
Jorj Serpos Efendi Turkey Telegraphs General Secretary (1868)
uzaklar33 4 years ago
Agop Kazazyan Pasha Minister of Finance / Minister of Treasure of Property
Mikael Portukal Pasha Ministry of Finance Counselor (1886- General Director of Ziraat Bank/ Minister of Civil List(1891)
Sakız Ohannes Pasha General Secretary of Foreign Affairs Ministry (1871) Minister of Treasure of Property (1897)
uzaklar33 4 years ago
Hovsep Misakyan Efendi Ambassador in La Haye (1900 — 1907)
Sarkis Balyan Turkish Consulate in Montenegro and Italy (1900 - )
Azaryan Manuk Efendi Foreign Affairs Undersecretary
Kapriyel Noradunkyan Minister of Foreign Affairs in Gazi Ahmet Muhtar Pasha's Cabinet (1912)
uzaklar33 4 years ago
Diran Aleksan Beg Turkish Ambassador for Belgium (1862) Post Telephone Telegraph Inspector
Yetvart Zohrab Efendi Ambassador for London (1838 — 1839)
Hırant Düz Beg Mesine (Italy) Ambassador (1900 — 1907)
uzaklar33 4 years ago
Serkis Efendi Confidential Secretary in Foreign Affairs (1870 — 1871)
Ovakim K. Reisyan Court Chairman of Vize Town in Istanbul (1879)/ Preparatory Court Chairman of Chios (1885)/ Preparatory Court Chairman of Rhodes (1887)
Artin Dadyan Pasha Foreign Affairs Undersecretary (1880)
uzaklar33 4 years ago
Agop Gırcikyan First ambassador of Ottoman Empire (Paris) counselor of Reshid Pasha. Chargé d'affaires of Ottoman Empire's Embassy for Paris (1834 -)
Krikor Agaton Ottoman Post-Telephone-Telegraph General Manager (1864)
Employee in Foreign Affairs Ministry (1848 — 1850)
Sahak Abro General Secretary of Foreign Affairs Ministry (1850 - )
Sebuh Laz Secretary in Minas-Paris Turkish Embassy (1863)
Krikor Odyan Foreign Affairs Judgement Manager (1870)
uzaklar33 4 years ago
We, Turkish Armenians, as being the most crowded Christian community living in Turkey celebrate 75th year of our country with enthusiasm, we sincerely believe in the bright future of Republic of Turkey and we have great expectations for future."
SOME OF ARMENIANS WHO WERE AT DUTY IN THE OTTOMAN STATE
uzaklar33 4 years ago
With pleasure and gratitude, we commemorate Sultan Mehmed the Conqueror who offered a new life for the Armenian community within the borders of the Empire according to their own customs and practice, the statesmen who served the country following Mehmed's steps, and our 83 patriarchs, beginning with the first Istanbul Armenian Patriarch appointed in 1461, Hovagim of Bursa, all of whom served this position faithfully.
uzaklar33 4 years ago
If we consider present tensions in the world and especially the wars in our neighbors in the eve of a new millenium, I suppose we can comprehend better the value of this event, which occurred 538 years ago and the importance of tolerance between religions and cultures.
uzaklar33 4 years ago
In history, it has never been seen neither before Mehmed nor after him that a ruler who is a disciple of a certain religion establish a spiritual presidency for the disciples of an another religion.
uzaklar33 4 years ago
Sultan Mehmet the Conqueror's converting the Armenian episcopalism in Western Anatolia into Istanbul Patriarchate with a firman in 1461, eight years after he conquered Istanbul, is a clear example of his and Ottoman Empire's future vision and tolerance they showed to all religions.
uzaklar33 4 years ago
However, among the ones we left behind there are also many events which we will always remember with respect and celebrate with pleasure in the coming milleniums.
As we celebrate today...
The foundation of Istanbul Armenian Patriarchate is an unique event in the history of world.
uzaklar33 4 years ago
Respect to human life and individual rights and freedoms, and a world lawful and far away from all types of violence are common aspirations for all of us.
This milestone in front of us is offering not only a unique opportunity but also a difficult test. The second millenium, which we are preparing to leave behind, is full of tragic events
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"We are at the brink of the third millenium. We are preparing to celebrate the beginning of a new period in the History of Humanity. I think that this is a great chance for all of us. The chance of designating our future with the dreams of unity of cultures and nations...
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Perhaps the most striking statements about Ottoman-Armenian relations were submitted in person by the Armenian community in Turkey. Armenian Patriarch Mesrob II used the expressions below in his speech in the reception in Hilton Hotel on May 22, 1999:
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Abdulhamid period and so on. In addition, many Armenians worked as counselors to Ottoman statesmen.
The Armenian community always lived in a tolerant and free environment, like all the other minorities and non-Muslims in the Ottoman Empire. They were not a community which was exposed to a massacre as claimed but a community who held important positions and practiced important professions in every level of state administration.
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later Ministers of Mint from the Duzyan family of Divrik and palace doctors from Sasyan family. In the 19th century, there were Ministers of Mint from Bezciyan family and Ministers of Powder-mill from Dadyan family. Also, there were Armenian foreign affairs officials and ministers in the 19th century and
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Armenians' fidelity towards the Ottoman State, their adaptation of Turkish customs and even their speaking Turkish well ensured Armenians to be appointed to high and responsible positions of the state. With regard to this fact, in the 16th century, there were statesmen who were promoted to the post of vizier like Mehmet Pasha of Armenian origin. In the 18th century, there were palace jewelers and
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Armenians were always treated first class citizens as the other non-Muslims were. They did not do military service, furthermore, they gained important positions in society and became rich especially by obtaining key points in commercial life.
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The Ottoman State announced the reforms to be made in Gulhane Decree but non-Muslims were not pleased with these new rights given. Non-Muslims were obliged to do military service and they could also charged with official duty or attend civil and military schools. As a result of this, Armenians had the government ratify the Armenian Nation Regulations, which came into force in 1863 and consisted of 99 articles
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As it is seen in the statement above, the Armenian Patriarch says that the Armenians under Turkish rule have preserved their identities and he thanks for the rights offered by the Ottoman State.
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Because of this, Armenians can not remain indifferent during wars and hardships facing the state. On the contrary, they are obliged to help the state as they have always done. The Armenian who loves his homeland and who will help the state, will receive the best service of his own nation."
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Armenian Patriarch Nerses stated, in his letter, to the Citizenship Assembly Council in 1876 that "If by any chance the Armenian nation has been preserved as a nation and if it is preserving its beliefs, its church, language, history and cultural values, all these are due to the protection, help and benevolence shown by the Turkish government to the Armenian nation. Fate bounds Armenians to Turks.
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In addition, many Armenian young men were sent to European universities and schools to be educated in various fields and learn art. Nevertheless, Armenians living under Russian rule were not given these rights at that period.
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In a period of three hundred and fifty years from Sultan Mehmed the Conqueror to Sultan Mahmut II, religious and social affairs of Christians, as well as the Armenians, were certainly not interfered with. Many schools, printing-houses and libraries were established with the help of Armenian bankers (then called Amira), merchants and civil officials.
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Armenians, who received the attention of the Ottoman Empire, an attention, which they had never received in their history from any other state or any other ruler, became sincerely fond of the Ottoman State and the Turkish nation. Because of this reason, in a short time great numbers of Armenians immigrated to Istanbul from various places, and formed a big community. Thus, they became one of the world's most prosperous communities.
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Armenians in this region were also included in the same congregation and were connected to Istanbul Patriarch.
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Sultan Mehmed the Conqueror, on his own initiative transferred Hovakim, the Armenian spiritual leader in Bursa, to Istanbul after he conquered Istanbul in 1453. In 1461, he had Armenian Patriarchate established as well as the Byzantine Greek Patriarchate, and he ensured Armenians to be controlled by this Patriarch. Following Sultan Selim's (Selim I) conquest of South Caucasia and Eastern Anatolia in 1514-1516,
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The first relations of Armenians with Ottomans started in the western region of Anatolia, where Armenians were a small minority. After Bursa was made the capital city of the state by Osman Ghazi (Sultan Osman I) in 1324, most of the Armenians in Kutahya and the Armenian spiritual chieftain were transferred to this city.
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OTTOMAN — ARMENIAN RELATIONS
In the first years of the Ottoman Empire, Armenians were scattered as small princedoms and emirates. They were living as subjects of Iran, Byzantine Empire, Georgian and Seldjukian States and the other small emirates located generally in Cukurova, Eastern Anatolia and Caucasus regions.
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