An Intellectual Response to Freedom of Speech by Hamza Andreas Tzortzis

[mannypatel1]

is there a q and a part to this video????

[mrocean21]

Under the caliphate the christain and jewish communities prospered, that is why these people still exist in those regions of the world where the caliphate existed.

[holylight12]

What is a caliphate?

[lord69z]

Id also like to point out.

Freedom of Speech is 100% required.

Just cuz you babies don't like the sounds coming out of peoples mouths doesn't matter.

TOO BAD. Get over it, we all did a LLOOOOONNNG time ago.

[greycloud24]

i can define a human being as someone who has 10 legs, therefore you are not a human being.

now lets all agree on what a human being is, and i don't agree that a human being has a soul. i don't agree that a soul exists at all.

lets just stick with the scientific definition of humans.

[mustafagtgt]

if you dont have a soul then you are rejecting your own nature

I can define my self very well, I have a soul for sure!

[greycloud24]

funny how you use the freedom of speech to fight against the freedom of speech. the freedom of speech is a liberty that everyone is born with. people can only take away your freedom of speech. as long as you can communicate you have freedom of speech. somebody may kill you for practicing this liberty but you have the ability to do so anyway.

you can only remove freedom of speech. everyone is born with it. the liberal approach is to limit removal of liberty unless it proves harmful to others.

[mustafagtgt]

we can speak that a GOD GIVEN tool for us to spread the truth. Hamza mentioned this many times, why dont you listn to him...

[Scrapheap71]

Scientific progress is impossible without freedom of speech. Just look at how scientificly backwards Islamic countries are.

[fazzamin]

Appalling!

islamic countries today are NOT islamic. they dont represent islam :) There is no islamic state at all today, and hence the work for the caliphate!

[greycloud24]

they claim to be islamic, they are islamic. perhaps you should relable yourself so that people know not to judge you as being them. either that or somehow get them to admit that they are not islamic.

[fazzamin]

err no, they DONT claim to be islamic. And if they do, they are not, and that is irrelevant to their being islamic or not.

[greycloud24]

well i could claim that you are not islamic and they are. who is to say weather or not my claim is accurate. if someone chooses to call themselves islamic than they are islamic.

or do you have something that defines one as being islamic?

[fazzamin]

yes, there IS a way of measuring it! And that is implementation of islam. EVERY Muslim knows that todays "islamic countries" are ANYTHING but - this is something all muslims know. so regardless of what these treacherous govvernments say, the reality is well known to muslims :)

[lord69z]

You know Christians would also say " Our country says it is christian but most christians know it isnt."

Seriously - can we stop worrying about invisible things and work on REAL shit in society?

[mustafagtgt]

We are Muslims and we know our faith. Have a discussion with a Muslim jurist or a scholar of Islam and he will tell you that there is no present day Islamic state ruled under total Islamic governance. The leaders may profess being Muslims but emulating the fundamentals of Islamic jurisdiction upon the land is not their agenda.

[gargle61]

@greycloud24 yeah, we have a way of defining whether something is 'islamic.'

it's called Quran (our Book) and Sunnah (the saying, actions, approvals of the Prophet Muhammad (May God's peace and blessing be upon him)).

[mustafagtgt]

They are not Islamic; any Muslim will tell you openly that there is NO Islamic state existing presently on this earth. Its not a secret its an unfortunate reality. Saudi is a monarch ruled by corrupted leaders who have gone astray and the last caliphate empire fell in the early 2oth century. Mustafa Ataturk replaced the state with a secularist agenda that Subdued freedom of faith and culture...

[Scrapheap71]

If the Caliphate was implemented, then the problem would become worse.. not better.

[cloudynightstale]

@ Scrapheap...

//If the Caliphate was implemented, then the problem would become worse.. not better. //

Evidence for ur claim?

The Christians+Jews+Muslims coexisted under the Caliphate for more than 1300 years, in an empire that stretched from the pyreness to the Great wall of China. In fact, some states which were under Judo-Christian rule invited and sought help from the Muslim Caliphs to take their state and establish Islamic rule in it.

[Stipoon]

Let alone representing the people in politics.

[mustafagtgt]

The Islamic countries were advanced in scientific knowledge and progressed FAR beyond Europe for over 1000 years. It was only because of internal corruption that led to the fall of this significant progression. The Renaissance was sparked thanks tot he Muslim lands. Great men traveled to Islamic Spain and Islamic Baghdad to learn and acquire knowledge. Millions upon millions of books were written by Islamic scholars and great libraries existed.

[firoz85]

@Scrapheap71 To be fair i think you ought to look at the unparalled scientific contribution by the muslims during the the time the islamic caliphate did exist ! Todays 'so called islamic states' are anything but !

[ryand4]

even though i actually agree with quite a lot of what he is saying. ultimately, what you are preaching is a fascist theocracy, that the rest of us who aren't muslim would have to live under...i'd have to pay pograms to your regime...i think this is totalitarian, a regime i think that is very immoral.

also, muslims dont agree on everything, how do you install absolute laws on something that none of your own group agree on?

freedom from oppressive religion is something i would die for!

[spiritlite]

SalaamAlaikum, Alhamdulillah ,MASHALLAH,

JAZAKALLAH KHAIR.

[CognosSquare]

He goes from "proving god" to "refuting secularism" to "refuting freedom of speech". This guy is good.