Guatemala's drug gangs fuel political violence - 09 Sep 07

[rfldocarmoandrade]

parabens a mariana por essa materia sobre a guatemala essa reportagem e nota 1000 assim como a reporter da al jazzera cujo o canal esta tambem de parabens valeu

[junkaiushi]

Das ist aber echt schlecht was in meine Land passiert ich werde immer die name von mein liebe Guatemala gut vorstellen obwohl es viel viel Drogen Kriminalität gibt ich bin eine indigena aus Panajachel und ich wünsche nur das die Leute zufrieden leben und nicht mit Schmerz Que viva mi guatemala .

[jvrG20]

i hate when something is going wrong in one country and they always say "oh thats because the U.S cant do this or oh its all Mexico's fault because they dont blah blah blah" and this happens EVERY SINGLE TIME something goes bad. and Every country does this, blames another.

[xxstarchildxx]

I really admire the woman at 2:30 :) Also thankyou AlJazeera for reporting on economically marginalised countries such as this, they need more recognition and for the voices of the people to be heard. I believe also that if more drugs were legalised it would strongly reduce corruption- gang warfare etc. For anyone who finds it hard to believe that legalisation of drugs (or at least some drugs) would improve the situation, I recommend you research the evidence- Dutch policy etc.

[rembroker]

THESE TWO GANGS MS AND 18TH STREET ARE FROM LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA. NOT FROM GUATEMALA.

[sergiofer34]

@rembroker every one knows that but they are worst in guatemala and mexico .

[rembroker]

THE TWO BIGGEST GANGS IN GUATE ARE MS AND 18TH STREET BOTH OF WHICH ARE INVOLVED IN DRUG TRAFFICKING. ALL OF LATIN AMERCIA IS INVOLVED IN A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY. BUT LET ME SAY SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE SEEM TO NOT UNDERSTAND. THE DRUG PROBLEM IS NO LATIN AMERICA. ITS THE UNITED STATES. YOU CAN'T HAVE SUPPLY IF YOU DON'T HAVE DEMAND. BUT THE DEMAND BY U.S RESIDENTS IS SO PROFOUNDLY PATHETIC THAT EVERY COUNTRY DOWN SOUTH WANTS A PIECE OF THE PIE. WE SPEND THEY SUPPLY.

[cantonaorey]

la bodega pelicula guatemalteca, VIPla casa de enfrente

[lamascara84]

Guatemala is my country putos you people don't car.

[cooks1234]

wow mexicans and salvadorians running guatemala and killing guatemalans.that military/gov dictatorships is over now it seems pure capitalists have replace them.wheres nationalism or communist revolution when you need it

[camstenyan]

im a canadian university student......but i have guatemalan roots and hurts to see how the gangs are ruining everything for the innocent.

[Guatemalasociety]

I wish Guatemala was a better place for all those poor and innocent children, women, and men.

[lalolita519]

los amo los guatemaltecos , ellos no averguezan ser indio, ellos son orgulloso der ser indios, no como los salvadorenos que averguezan ser indios

[OrcWyvern]

The truth is that there are gangs everywhere, I live in USA and the other day 2 guys died in a shooting by gangs, and they weren't hyspanic by the way, one gang was white supremacist the other were african american.

So yeah, why don't we talk about that?

[lalolita519]

@OrcWyvern whats hispanic? hispanic is not a race, also its a stupid term since the hispanics are the spaniards no one else. did you watch the video? the majority of people in that video were racially amerinidan aka native american, they were all wearing traditional maya clothes

[OrcWyvern]

@lalolita519

I know that..... I was just trolling the dude who is a white supremacist.....but in our looooooooooong discussion I point out that Hyspanic is an ethnicity not a race, I even put myself as an example because I'm Hyspanic and I'm caucasian to American standards (italian family but I'm hardcore "Chapin"), so yeah, I DO know that, we are an Ethnicity

[chsn09]

@OrcWyvern Hispanic is not even a race abd it is not even really a culture or an ethnicity! The term has highly linguistocentric implications!

[lalolita519]

@chsn09 i completely agree , hispanic is not an ethnicity either. its ridiculous how the u.s uses the word "hispanic" because hispanic means Spaniard just like anglo usually means british. the only ethnic hispanics are the spaniards. in the spanish speaking countries the word hispanic "hispano" is used to refer to only spaniards.

[OrcWyvern]

@lalolita519

oh , this is another video lol, I have posted in so many I get confused, it's just that I like defending Chapinlandia =p

but beleive me I had a conversation with a white supremacist that went for about 50-70 comments long hehe, and I tried to explained him how Hyspanic means culture not race, and that anyone can be good or bad , ethnicity has nothing to do =D

[lalolita519]

@OrcWyvern well its was the ones from the u.s.a who started the "hispanic" label and many from the u.s actually believe its a separate race...anyways i know that there are white guatemalans and black guatemalans at the caribbean coast and of course amerindian guatemalans, in general I love how many guatemalans preserve the culture maya, they still speak the languages and use the traditional clothes. i hope for a better future for guatemala with all this crazy crime going on.

[chsn09]

@lalolita519 There are all kinds of Guatemams! And there are 3 groups of Afro/Black Guatamelans! You have blacks of colonial/slave descent origin who are known as Afro mestizos whose ancestry goes back to the 1500s and throughout colonial period. Then there are Garifuna who are also known as Black Caribs and Livingston is one of their well known areas in Guatemala. Then there are those who are of Belizean and Caribbean descent from laborers of the 19th and 20th century!

[OrcWyvern]

@chsn09

I was thinking about it , I wanted say a culture but for example only in Guatemala we so many people with different cultures, there is the Mayans descendents , the african descendents, the Mestizo descendents,European descents, etc, and many of them consider themselves Guatemalan, so we are not an ethnic group either, at least all of us speak Spanish.....nevermind, many Guatemalans don't speak Spanish either lol.

You are right.

[chsn09]

@OrcWyvern "LOL"! Well when any someone from a(ny) nation immigrates to another country that nation becomes an ethnicity! So if a Guataemalan immigrates to the USA, their nationality/identity becomes an ethnic group (ethncity) within an internal USA American context! Guatemalans are diversed and mixed and consists of many different groups but all are GUATEMALANS first and foremost!

[lalolita519]

@chsn09 yeah guatemalan is not a race either its a nationality just like u.s.a is a nationality. guatemala had many waves of immgrants too from china, Germany, Italy, Lebanon, Palestine etc. lol we know guatemala.

[chsn09]

@lalolita519 Exactly Guatemalan is NOT a race! To hell with the ignorant pendejos who think Guatemalan is a race! It is just like USA how it is a nationality with a multiplicity and multitude of different respective "racial groups"! Ignorance is clearly a bliss! Hispanic and Hispano and Hispania all refer to what is now the entity of which we now call SPAIN!

[MONCTEZUMATAMARINDO]

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[rembroker]

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[MONCTEZUMATAMARINDO]

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[rembroker]

@RealSpit777

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[ChomoCholo]

@rembroker Whose job did you take?

What do you think it will pay once all your little brown brothers and sisters arrive?

Any chance that they'll do it for less and you'll be unemployed, too? Ass Discharge?

[kumar9777]

kill them all fukyn animals kill them all

[wlwak]

Guatemala has one of the highest murder rates of women in the world.

And they torture them too. It is disgusting and cowardly to torture people. It is what little men do who want to feel powerful. You slime trails.

[MrMeono]

Guatemala is an united country, it is a country full with pretty and beautiful landscapes, likewise are its people.

Guatemala has innocent people, combatant people, venturesome people.

All the Guatemalans don't have hate against other people.

we respect to the other countries, I want that you respect us because we are also people. the Guatemalans request respect.

GOD BLESS GUATEMALA!

GOD BLESS THE PEOPLE THAT HATE GUATEMALA TOO!!!

[Jajca83]

esta es aljazeera de las televisora musulmana ?

[IHaveNoClue76]

and even if popeye simply didn't know, it was pretty selfish. better watch what you say.

[THEIVI0IVSTER]

all i got to say is when you go down there be armed. the country is a shithole.

[suenoshumedos]

fuck all u write all we know IS THAT GANGS WERE BORN IN USA SO DONT SAY DONT LET EM GO INTO USA CAUSE YOU DEPORTED EM FIRST TO SALVADOR AND GUATEMALA SO IS YA FAULT POOP EYE

[popeye1250]

Don't let them into the U.S.!

[elguate30]

@popeye1250 t hey start in the usa my amigo

[blagueur74]

@popeye1250 Fuck U Cocksucker... IF u don't know the history behind that... DO NOT COMMENT.... Its like suenos said... The problem were born in USA... California... 13 Street L.A.

[Ezkece]

LKL

[Isaiasm2006]

A worthless queer.

[1gudspliff]

I think the title should be political violence fuel drug gangs

[19lobo63]

A worthless country. Que quieres decir con eso. Que porque Guatemala tiene el problema de narcotrafico no vale nada. Solo porque Mexico es mas grande en territorio no es excusa para ser el mejor pais del mundo. Respeto y admiro mucho la cultura mexicana, pero no olvides que ustedes tinen el mismo problema SOLO QUE MAS GRANDE. Todos queremos nuestro pais de origen aun con todos sus problemas. Ser mexicano no te da el derecho de insultar y ofender a los demas paises. Saludos.

[panic1844]

@19lobo63 Idiota es la persona que insulte otros paises. Todos semos hermanos, solo fronteras nos dividen. que viva la revolucion!!!

[lucianarg30]

@19lobo63

No hagas caso amigo y hermano Guatemalteco. En Mexico tamien hay imbeciles y estupidos como todo el mundo. No se que te hara dicho ese animal pero de corazon te digo: eres hermano y bienvenido eres en Mexico. ERES MEXICANO: Tanto como cualquier Yucateco o habitante el Caribe, todos de sangre Maya. Si en la historia se nos dividio (gracias a Inglaterra y un grupo de politicos de tu pais) Guatemala y Belice siempre seran regiones amigas. Dios te cuide. Atte: Tu hermana Mexicana :)

[aljobla]

Ese Mexicano de seguro no sabe ni como se deletrea el nombre de su pais..Es un ignorante!!!

[johnygee1]

oh snaps sanraymundo das wea i was born lol damn its crazy out der sme day ill return 2 my lindo pais

[barcelonadgreates]

what the FUCK is a guatemala??

[1113escorpion]

is you father bitch

[f3rmania]

Guatemala is a nice place, full of people pride of their origins, pride of their mayan roots who existed before all of you ignorant red neck wannabe.

[rembroker]

@barcelonadgreates

go back to school ignorante.

[puro100leon]

im a united states marines...and trust me we dont get involved in gangs violence unless martial law is aplicated...gangs are a bunch of low lifes trying to spread terror on country of 13 million people thats just sad...the police force in guatemala is a joke...just to make that clear i have guatemalan roots but im a us citizen and i hate to admit that we are responsible for central american gangs violence...cuz instead of keeping our problems we helped spread them through deportation

[Luis514]

im glad u have the honesty to admit it. peace bro..

[f3rmania]

Do you know anything a bout Jacobo Arbenz when he was president of guate. the us army went to that little piece of land named Guatemala, and they killed a bunch of innocent people just because the us goverment and the CIA wanted to keep the lands that Jacobo wanted to give to the people, the US gov. started a rumor that Guatemala was turning in a comunist country. and they sent a bunch of people like you to kill babys, and families that how started, gangs, guerrillas, civil war, etc., peace

[azmovement]

@puro100leon there are gang members in the marines to dude

[marioalosangeles]

@puro100leon

Hey, i've heard that the US military has trained or is trainig the Guatemalan military, If so, that has got to stop! because if you go down to Guatemala, the damn military is in control of evrything! they control the streets! and spread fear just like the damn gang members... How could US support something like that???

[jorgechiu]

@marioalosangeles my god, military controls everything, military dont control shit here. It still the rich people and the politicians, you dont even see the military. man get informed before speaking.

[marioalosangeles]

@jorgechiu

ok, you speak english? are you American? because I am, but i have spent quit some time out there, different parts of Guatemala at that. When we drove out there, every 5 minutes we were stop by the military. Everytime i went out with my cousins for a walk, there they were walking the streets of Reu, with they're riffles out in the open. They terrorize the towns, my uncle is a fucking Vet! The military is running the streets! trust me! and they are corrupt. Yes rich people run the

[marioalosangeles]

@jorgechiu country, but they're weapon to terrorize is the fucking military! So shut the fuck up and don't come at me like that motha fucka!.!!! one thing is to read and another thing is to live and speak from experience. Out here in the U.S tthe military is only involved when it's time to protect the country, out there, those motha fuckas can pull you over any time they want. YES! THEY RUN THE COUNTRY!

[PONCHOBBG28]

@puro100leon THAT IS SO TRUE(but not all gangsters are like that)

[aljobla]

@puro100leon Central American Gangs are a direct result of the violence that citizens were exposed to during the war in el Salvador, which the US financially supported, and left thousands of orphan children. When you are exposed to that kind of terror at such an early age what do you expect??!!!

[OrcWyvern]

holy shit, Guatemala is in Aljazeera TV lol

[WolYou]

Interesting how much effort there is undertaken to gain money (only paper, imagine!) and so litte is done to live a happy life. What do the gangsters run after? Do they think that raketeering, selling drugs or driving big cars is making the people love them or what? Each gangster will die through the consequences of his own doings. Probably those people have a major mind disease.

[MARGUEVA]

MARIANA SANCHEZ this peruvians is one of the best journalism of the world WE LOVE MARIANA !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[zacomota]

guatemala for ever

[vivaguatemala4123456]

Viva Guatemala!!!!!!!!

[etson701]

The reason why indian political candidates get killed is because of the civil war history in Guatemala. In guatemala they wouldnt want indians to govern the country. alot of guatemalan residents own a Gun, when i went over there to visit Guatemala, because im from there. I spended time practicing shooting at glass bottles and stuff.

[cojes]

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[fulltrance23]

maldito hijo de puta ojala desaparescas 3 metros bajo tierra

[guate150]

te queres unir a mi para acabar con estas escorias?

[guate150]

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[ogirv101]

Las pandillas son basura, pero esa misma razon yo me voy unir al ejercito the estados Unidos y entrenare militares en differentes lugares para que acaben los perros de las pandillas.

Si, has ollido de esos grupos de civilianos que hacen eso, eso voy hacer, solo que nostros iremos en una camapana para acabarlos a todos ustedes pendejos.

[f3rmania]

Unirte al ejercito de los estados unidos no es la gran cosa, yo entiendo tu sentimiento de ira, porque a mi tambien me da mucho coraje que nadie haga nada, pero el problema en si es, quien gobierna el pais no es capaz de controlar tanta violencia, deberian de existir mejor programas de reintegracion social, para adolecentes marginados creo que alli es donde esta el verdadero problema, no estamos educando a nuestra nines, y solo crecen para hacer dano, que Dios ayude a este pais tan bello.

[ogirv101]

El pais de Guatemala en realidad no es un pais 'libre' si lo tomamos en forma politica. Si la gente del estado de Guatemala son personas muy buenas, amables, y orgullosas de su raza, pero el gobierno es lo que causa problemas. El gobierno de Guatemala es un chiste, no sirve para nada, y los que se interesan en la politica no es para crear una nueva sociedad, pero una pelea para poder, o dinero, o un fanatismo social entre grupos etnicos. Que tristeza, que Dios ayude a Guatemala.

[f3rmania]

libre es una palabra muy amplia y puede significar muchas cosas, yo vivo en estados unidos the land of the free, y nadie puede hacer nada sin ser amonestado, encarcelado, lo que quiero decir es que nadie es libre, ok ahora hablemos de politica, en otros lugares del mundo son mas fanaticos con la politica, y solo usan a los votantes para alcanzar su sueno tan codiciado, NO PASA SOLO EN GUATEMALA

[ogirv101]

No, el contexto a cual referia yo era en forma democratica. I'm from the United States as well, I throughly understand the thought of freedom, but you take it into another perspective. Goverment is entitled to protect your rights, the reason why you go to jail is for not obeying the laws or regulations of public policy. The thing about goverment, is that we give up 'total freedom' to protect our most valuable rights, look deeper into social contract theory by John Locke and others.

[ogirv101]

Also I do know that it doesn't only happen in Guatemala, but is that a justification for it to be there in the first place? Attitudes liek yours, attitudes that shift the blame unto other things rather than solving it is what kept ignorance running for centuries. So just because there is drug dealing in almost every country, does it justify drug dealing in the first place? No, forget about other countries, focus on Guatemala, we need to fix our problems before pointing at others.

[mostpacifistic]

America fucked this country

[demon213kushed]

hijos d eputa regrensele la tierra a los maya fuera ladinos de mierda.

[truethug6]

ya guate