You have good videos, but the idea here is that accidents happened decades ago, and they still happen. Read the car wrecks. Read the bank failures.
Accidents continue to happen. People continue to make risk/cost tradeoffs that increase danger. 100% safety is extremely difficult, and costly (5 MPH speedlimits, for instance) so people make tradeoffs. It's reality. It's messy, but perfection doesn't exist.
That leak looked the same colour as corexit mixed with oil.........wouldnt surprise me if the releif well is pumping it in so the oil doesnt reach the surface. First good hurricane and the proof will be spread accross the southern states.
@lampoonatic What are you babbling about, synthetic oil has been around for 40yrs and is better than regular oil but not allowed to compete. A plane flew 24hrs on solar power and theres hydrogen cars, magnetic drive, photo cell etc. you are obviously ignorant of anything that requires reading or watching anything more intellectual (look it up) than BP adds or the Simsons.
If I'm STUPID im surprised you can turn on your PC (personal computer).
Are you stupid? I don't know. I didn't call you stupid. I said your comment sounded stupid. You made a blanket generalization about "the wealthy' and prison for life. I made no argument against the development of alternative energy. My point is if you are using petroleum, you(along with everyone else, including myself) are complicit in whatever crime you are alledging. My comment was not meant as an insult, I'm sorry if you took it that way. As far as television goes, I don't watch it
Also, these oil & gas companies don’t develop technologies for things that happen every 31 years unless they are required to by federal regulations. Our federal government has dropped the ball again & failed to protect our natural resources while collecting trillions of dollars from the sale of GOM leases from the industry currently being made into some evil empire.
Here’s some facts Rachel Maddow doesn’t point out. Oil & gas producing companies are in business to make money for stockholders. So if you are investing in a mutual fund, it is probably buying shares in 1 or more oil & gas companies’ stocks & you want your portfolio to grow. Therefore, you are profiting with these evil companies that are “making themselves the most profitable industry the universe has ever seen & I’m not exaggerating”.
remember this incident & the news media tried to blame TX Gov. Bill Clements (Rep.) because he founded SEDCO in 1947 & this company was involvement with this Mexican well. The good news IMHO is that the GOM & all the seas’ living creatures didn’t expire in 1979. This current oil spill is a tragedy, but everyone should just take a breath & understand it’s NOT the end of the world.
The loony left environmentalists would have them drill 100 miles out, if they could. They can't drill on land, where it's safest and easiest (and our prices would be lower) because a couple dozen animals might be inconvenienced. So this is what we get instead... thousands of birds and animals dead. Nice trade-off for the wacky left.
@eztobfree Did you miss the beginning of this video? The Alaskan pipeline is over land. The oil companies don't give a shit there ether. All that want is profit and less cost. But thanks for your mindless rebuttal.
@eztobfree ...while the rapacious right corporatocratic regime continues to delude us believing that fossil fuels are THE ONLY FUELS in order to continue sucking the planet dry of its natural resources to turn a stinking profit because of the EVER CONSTANT illusion that man cannot survive without this ancient invention of capitalist money being the LIFEBLOOD of a true civilization. There CAN be a 'happy medium'. Just gotta step outside the paradigm. Take your blinders off "easy-to-be-free".
@satheeshactsinfo Planetresource(dot)net has a Eco friendly solution to clean up the tragedy British Petroleum has created
One person can still make a difference in this world, is that simple interactions have a rippling effect. Each time this gets pass along, the hope in cleaning our planet is passed on .watch the youtube video title "COMPLETE CLEAN UP OF THE GULF SPILL" by? PRR7075
They have learnt nothing or maybe this is the same agenda being repeated.
The World watches and says nothing..
The same statements being made as in June 13th 1979.
Maybe they will eventually do the relief wells, but taking months will cause untold damage in the mean time. Something really strange going on, so much hidden from view, in the UK we have been shown a baby dolphin being saved, and told it was covered in oil but it looked really normal, the whole thing looked staged.
The worst thing about this situation is that suddenly conservatives are complaining that there wasn't enough REGULATION on deep water drilling...yet they rail against government regulation every chance they get. The hypocrisy is flowing like crude from a fucked up well.
@ProfMTH By forcing the poor beleaguered oil companies out to deep water instead of in shore where it would be possible to *kill* it. Nothing to do with a total lack of RD spending on *spill* cleanup or flat out fucking lying about being able to handle a blowout at depth. I suppose the environmentalist forced them to lie too.
If oil companies are so profitable why are their share prices not sky high? BP & Shell have gone nowhere for over 12 years. Take a look at their charts.
They are drilling so deep becasue we are getting closer to peak oil. America will be financially hammered as crude rises higher. Emerging markets and Europe will not be hit so hard due to their more intense focus on energy conservation and usage levels.
America is in big trouble, you need the Gulf to help power your gas hungry cars.
@DebtJunkie "If oil companies are so profitable why are their share prices not sky high? BP & Shell have gone nowhere for over 12 years. Take a look at their charts."
So you're here to tell us that the oil companies are not doing well, is that correct?
@DebtJunkie Due to never ending lawsuits & fines for environmentally unsound practices. 1965: Sea Gem offshore oil rig disaster 1993–1995: Hazardous substance dumping 2006–2007: Prudhoe Bay Refinery safety violations: Between June 2007 & February 2010, responsible for 97 percent (829 of 851) violations. 2005: Texas City Refinery explosion 2006–2008: Texas City refinery fatalities 2009: North Sea helicopter accident 2010: Deepwater Horizon well explosion
The BP fat cats are still living as demi-gods while they point the finger at their corporate janitors for the world to marvel. Osama is a whore. They popped his cherry for the cost of a snow cone. Fucking marvelous!
Actually Rachel, hoping and praying do the same thing: nothing.
Still, great reporting; great points.
One thing has become clear: if humans don't die off soon (which is highly unlikely), we will destroy EVERTHING. Once everything is gone, we'll eat one another.
Investigate Transocean and Haliburton who are the main culprits. Freeze their assets before investigations. Haliburton is responsible for dubious cementing techniques to cut costs all around the world.
The history lesson was interesting. Her exaggeration (she knows what's in the whole universe, eh?) as well as ignoring WHY the oil companies had to get better drilling that deep, not so much.
Oil-eating Microbes. We had this technology in 1989, they die out once the oil is gone, they don't produce any toxic byproducts, they are even safe for marine life to eat! Also there are warehouse stores of them in the south. Why isn't it being used? Because BP wants to save the oil. *facepalm*
@ProfMTH To my knowledge, the technology HollyMolly1386 is referring to (bioremediation) has already been used previously (the Exxon Valdez spill) and essentially accomplished nothing.
@ProfMTH They exist naturally, you can't just introduce these microbes since they are already there. They just dump loads of fertilizers into the ocean to make them multiply, the problem is the fertilizers feed everything, algae, stuff you don't want to feed etc. They also don't eat every carbon chain in oil just a select few.
There isn't a global conspiracy to not release these bacteria, it would be impossible to prevent them reaching the oil anyway. Also the oil can't be recovered easily.
This explosion leads to a Major leak, spilling out 5,000 Barrels or around 200,000 Gallons of oil a day so they say. Others say it could be 70,000 Barrels which equals out to be 2,800,000 Gallons Gusting out a day. Is anyone really sure how much is leaking out.? I assume not. The Gusting of Oil is getting worse every day!
On April 12th 2010 Oil Giant Hallibuton buys all outstanding Stock of the America's largest Oil Clean Up Company; Boots & Coots. On April 19th Halliburton visits an Oil Rig 50 miles off the Louisiana to pump cement down the already existing Wells. Now 20 hours later following his visit an explosion rocks the Sea.
youl better hope nothing realy hapends from now on becouse i wont be giveing any of my advice again Ever ,if it the end of the world, i die befor i help again
@dave4248 Maybe we should just stop drilling already. We're inches away from some real breakthroughs in wind, solar, and even fusion, all 100% renewable and 100% clean energy sources. it's the 21st century. We should be OFF fossil fuels and this most recent spill is just further proof of that.
And obviously, you've not paid attention to the video. 200 feet down for the 1979 spill and now we're in 2 miles using the same failed methods to cap the spill. Fucking bullshit.
@Deioth We can stop using all oil right now, all you have to do is live like it's 1799. Whale oil for lubricants and to light your house, no plastic at all meaning medical care will go backwards 100 years, no fertilizer means wide-spread famine (organic is bullshit), etc, etc, etc...
@sorienor WTF are you talking about? I know plastic is a petroleum product and all, but... seriously wtf are you talking about? Are you seriously nitpicking at my choice of words when I'm clearly discussing our energy future?
Americans are very short-sighted by nature. Whether its the automobile industry, the banking system, healthcare,or the oil industry, potential problems are always ignored to the extreme detriment of America's citizens. The reason for ignoring these problems? LARGE SHORT-TERM PROFIT,and to a lesser degree,the lack of consequences for bad decisions. How can anyone call for deregulation when these large institutions clearly can't effectively regulate themselves?
It isn't the oil company's fault, its the government....all those in favor of deregulation, smaller government and less oversight, say I. Even now, they had their chance, the government should charge them with a crime and fine BP or seize all BP assets, but i don't see that happening.
Yes, both have the same chance of helping but with prayer you can feel as good as the people who are down there working or volunteering to help save the wildlife... You know, people who are actually doing stuff.
I just can't believe she said that, whoever this anchor is I love her but that took me by surprise.
Americans want to have their SUVs and drive like there is no tomorrow too. As long as we dump trillions of dollars into holes like Iraq instead of working on alternative energies and conservation, we are going to have crap like this.
Even more in fact as the oil becomes harder to find and technology pushed to the limits.
The fact that they have had this exact same problem and yet still used the same techniques that failed miserably...amazing. I also idly wonder what the dollar cost for each 'failed' attempt was/is. I wonder if the attempts scale in cost, in a business hope that the cheapest method will work lol.
The truy sick irony is they will still get the oil with extra wells.
Vanity of vanities; all is vanity. What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun? One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh. The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose. The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
By the way............there is no comparison to what is happening in the gulf today!!!!!............The Ixtoc drilling was only a 3 km (1.9 mi) deep oil well when the drilling rig Sedco 135F lost drilling mud circulation.
Q: How many oil executives does it take to come up with a way to stop a leak?
A: None, the Free Market (tm) will do it for them.
Q: But isn't the market made up of these very same people, so they should get to work and...
A: Silence! The Free Market (tm) will do it for them!
PS: Maddow is awesome, especially when digging up old stories or pointing out PR tomfoolery (astroturfing, fake experts, conspiracy theories, etc - i.e. FreedomWorks, Koch Industries, AFP...). That's the real news here.
I think this is the essence of stupidity. When you make a mistake and are too fucking stupid to learn from it. Perfect composition of human stupidity. Un-fucking-believable.
BP wants to preserve this well for production and has done F*all to clean up this mess! Hello.., proper booming? What about the suck and salvage recovery the Saudi's developed in the '90s? Shore clean up should be the last defense when all else fails!
WHY are the state and federal governments letting BP control this? Not hiring other companies to assist or take over certain areas? At minimum make BP works with all the oil companies who also have off shore rigs to work to COOPERATIVE solution!!!
Hey Rachel...exactly why don't you ever comment on how your BS ENVIRONMENTALISM has CAUSED us to go further and further offshore to drill HUH.....HUH??? Maybe if the nvironazis weren't so bleepin' busy trying to DICTATE EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF OUR LIVES, we could be drilling ON LAND WHERE IT'S SAFER! But no....that would be journalistic INTEGRITY. Of which you have none. Go kiss your girlfriend and complement her 70s hairdo and stop acting like you have two marbles to roll around in your head.
@ExcitableNeurons BP has been lobbying to change that rule here in Canada. Or more specifically, that a relief well must be drilled in the same season.
The only thing Rachel didn't mention was that drilling the relief wells is just as dangerous as drilling the original well in the first place. You yeah! And we're going to be attempting to drill those wells during Hurricane season. So we got that going for us...
Idea, take pipe that is wider than the busted pipe, and put that pipe around the busted pipe until you get that pipe to the surface (make sure you're wider pipe is sealed into the ground). Fix problem in one week. Take your sweet time figuring out how to make the oil rig operational again.
@CarpeOmne that won't work... the pipe would need to be so wide that it would be crushed by the water pressure... it certainly couldn't be a mile long...
Its the well cap thats broken... so thats more or less that!
The choices are limited... I suppose they could always put a 'cone' over it... ohh wait a minute... hmmmmm
okay barring the cone idea... then plugging up the bore hole might be an idea... assuming they can get something to into the bore hole?
@CarpeOmne I have zero idea why they haven't done this. One pipe, lowered a section at a time, til it covers the pipe. All the oil comes to the surface where it can be collected.
It seemed as if all the attempts to plug the well were the result of not having encountered the same problem before, or to a lesser magnitude. Now that I see it's all happened before, it really makes BP look bad to not prepare for a potential disaster.
ProfMTH your videos are always funny and I enjoy them greatly, but I have to be honest- this is easily the funniest 8 minutes I have ever watched on your channel.
@lordcheetah You are right, this is insanity. We had an incompetent Democrat President in 1979 when this oil fire happened and another incompetent Democrat president now. Democrats should start having candidates who can actually lead. So far Obama has partied with a Beatle, gone on vacation, golfed several times, attended fundraisers, done sports interviews and had lunches for sports teams at the White House. This spill hasn't messed up Obamas social life much.
@ProfMTH Such as put a hold on his busy social life, come to the Gulf and bring some of the hundreds of government paid scientists with him and work on a solution to the leak instead of his golf game. Such as get together in the Gulf people from other oil companies from around the world and get their ideas on stopping this. Such as he could at least try to be a leader or at least pretend he cares more about stopping this disaster than he does about singing Hey Jude with a Beatle.
@independentview1 "Such as put a hold on his busy social life, come to the Gulf and bring some of the hundreds of government paid scientists with him and work on a solution to the leak instead of his golf game."
The President of the United States himself must be physically present in the Gulf in order to solve this problem? Seriously?
"...at least pretend he cares more about stopping this disaster...."
Ah, so he should show more emotion, is that it? That wil stop the gushing oil?
@ProfMTH Who said anything about emotion. Obama said the leak was his "top priority" yet he spends far more time tending to his social calendar than to helping an entire region from being destroyed. Obama being in the Gulf and seeing daily what is not being done would be much more helpful than him being on vacation, at a fundraiser or playing basketball. The environment and economy in the Gulf are being devastated and Obama can't be bothered with it for more than a few hours.
obama could announce that there will be no new oil wells anywhere in territory under US influence until this leak is stopped. he already did one important thing, and that is to ask for two support wells instead of one when they announced they will try getting a support well online. also, why are these big corporations persons before the law in the united states? and if they are, why not put BP in jail for a few years like we would with a person that does something like this?
Maybe Obama could stuff all the top executives from Goldman-Sachs, JP Morgan, and Pfizer in there...but alas he would have no friends. Maybe he could stop being in retarded wars and make a lid made from scrap metal made of stealth bombers and Predator drones. No, he would lose friends again... Maybe he could just dump all the nuclear waste from the plants he wants to build. Or he could throw the 4th, 6th, and 8th amendments in there, he's not using them. What a terrible president.
@Sonicisbadazz Your kidding? One of the worst ecological disasters in history, one of the worst public relation disasters in BP history, on of the worst threats to BP stock value in the companies history and they are not using the new technology to protect a proprietary interest?
Maddow’s logic is clear. If they had something new that worked they would be using it. And they have nothing new.... in thirty years.
I'll point out the drilling technology has increased greatly.
@guyblond80 LOL Yeah, I'm really just suggesting stuff here to play devil's advocate. Her logic might make sense to us, but that doesn't mean there isn't more to the story than she's presenting
My issue isn't really with Maddow's logic, but her tone; what she's saying might be true, but there's an implication behind it that BP doesn't care about anything but their profits, and as such haven't come up with new technology to properly protect from disasters like these. That doesn't seem fair to me
I appreciate your point, but when accidents happen at 5000 ft there is a blindingly obvious solution - If you can't engineer fail-safe reactive systems then create proactive solutions everyone knows WILL work.
Drill baby, drill! [but also drill relief wells BEFORE extracting], pre-drilled relief wells could have stemmed the flow in days, but they cost money - and BP would rather 'externalise' that risk to the taxpayer.
Does anybody really expect anything different from oil oligopolies? These companies' motives are profit, which is incompatible with higher safety standards. The only solution is stricter regulation.
Pfft, Peak Oil is around the corner and we are no closer to finding an alternative. Meanwhile, more events like this seem to be what we have to look forward too.
why are you guys harassing the nice oil companies??? OMG we need to deregulate and just let the free market take care of everything! the oil companies will take care of everything if you just give them a chance! they love us every bit as much as Jesus does!
@isaachaze1 I agree, we need the bureaucratic saints, those perfect humans that have never shown their incompetence and ineptitude to fix everything!! everything.
So lucky we are to have so many honest, incorruptible, smart, professional and know it all to keep an eye on those free marketers.
I use the subway 90% of the time by the way, but if I there were BP gas stations in my city, I would not use them, telling them that their private incompetence has economic consequences.
Last night Dpr made a point about this. It may be horrible and devastating, but baring in mind that stuff you put in your car didn't pop up out of nowhere.
I've read up a bit about the Ixtoc disaster, but this report really provided a lot of shocking and disappointing info
We folks at the Gulf sure appreciate the kind words and thoughts.
We all have a hellava fight ahead of us and we'll make it through-but not without losses. All our coastal beaches are like a long string of precious white pearls, treasures beyond compare and they don't belong to just the folks who live here-they belong to everyone
@spellbinder00 She doesn't see the difference from a leak and a volcano of oil flowing into the Gulf. see my videos from Lindsey Williams on my site! this is worst than ever by a lightyear. This leak isn't going to be pluged as easy as it was then.
Now you see to sane and rational people that just seems condescending. And to a point actually offensive. Your God is no more likely to exist than Allah or Zeus, they all have the exact same evidence such as the Koran and Zeus and the Greek gods have far more literature to back them up. So why do you think Christianity is so special? just because you were born that way? it's no more a 'choice' than being gay or straight. And if you are a troll you fail so horribly at it. May God B.Less!
@MudHut67 My friend, you deserve condescension. You're an expert on God? You have some holistic experience in this regard? Or are you just being a twit, a virgin talking about sex? I can't speak for other Christians, some of whom are ALMOST as scared of God as are atheists. But I know Christ through my living amid the indwelling of His Spirit as a holistic state of being. We chose EACH OTHER. You won't understand this esoteric matter, because in regard to spiritual things, you're a virgin twit.
@TylerBoBylerFyler If you honestly dig down deep deep deep into your psyche, which is exactly what atheists never dare do, if they want to stay what they are, you will find that fear is more fundamental than belief. Moreover, you will find that your doubt of God rests on a demonic fear of experienicing Him. Worse than that, you'll find that your doubt of God is WILLFUL, motivated by gratuitous spite toward Him. You are a victim spiritual warfare, of which you're WILLFULLY unaware. Amen?
@baltimark Wait. Hold on a minute here baltimark, your ramblings confuse me. There's a few things you've got to sort out for me here. Firstly when you say "Demonic Fear" do you mean "a fear instilled in me by some demonic force, seperate from what I myself am"? Secondly, in your life how many demonic presences have you become aware of which are actually 'demonic presences' by definition?
ZOMG!!! OH NOES!!!!
l337pwnage 6 months ago
You have good videos, but the idea here is that accidents happened decades ago, and they still happen. Read the car wrecks. Read the bank failures.
Accidents continue to happen. People continue to make risk/cost tradeoffs that increase danger. 100% safety is extremely difficult, and costly (5 MPH speedlimits, for instance) so people make tradeoffs. It's reality. It's messy, but perfection doesn't exist.
neoaeonian 1 year ago
That leak looked the same colour as corexit mixed with oil.........wouldnt surprise me if the releif well is pumping it in so the oil doesnt reach the surface. First good hurricane and the proof will be spread accross the southern states.
ytillaer1 1 year ago
40 yrs ago and they made the same mistake again......only worse. Shows what the the wealthy care about the little people. NO excuse. Prison for LIFE.
ytillaer1 1 year ago
@ytillaer1 do you drive a car? Do you put petroleum products in it? Now shut up and quit sounding stupid.
lampoonatic 1 year ago
@lampoonatic What are you babbling about, synthetic oil has been around for 40yrs and is better than regular oil but not allowed to compete. A plane flew 24hrs on solar power and theres hydrogen cars, magnetic drive, photo cell etc. you are obviously ignorant of anything that requires reading or watching anything more intellectual (look it up) than BP adds or the Simsons.
If I'm STUPID im surprised you can turn on your PC (personal computer).
ytillaer1 1 year ago
Are you stupid? I don't know. I didn't call you stupid. I said your comment sounded stupid. You made a blanket generalization about "the wealthy' and prison for life. I made no argument against the development of alternative energy. My point is if you are using petroleum, you(along with everyone else, including myself) are complicit in whatever crime you are alledging. My comment was not meant as an insult, I'm sorry if you took it that way. As far as television goes, I don't watch it
lampoonatic 1 year ago
slaves to big oil
thegorilla69 1 year ago
Anybody bitching about bp should Google Nigeria oil spill. Educate yourself
gamergod30 1 year ago
I LOVE RACHEL MADDOW! She's so intelligent, brave, and beautiful! How do we loosen this hold oil has on us?!
maggmaxxx 1 year ago
@maggmaxxx I mean beautiful not like video vixen beautiful but a spectacular person beautiful!
maggmaxxx 1 year ago
Also, these oil & gas companies don’t develop technologies for things that happen every 31 years unless they are required to by federal regulations. Our federal government has dropped the ball again & failed to protect our natural resources while collecting trillions of dollars from the sale of GOM leases from the industry currently being made into some evil empire.
TxRancher1951 1 year ago
Here’s some facts Rachel Maddow doesn’t point out. Oil & gas producing companies are in business to make money for stockholders. So if you are investing in a mutual fund, it is probably buying shares in 1 or more oil & gas companies’ stocks & you want your portfolio to grow. Therefore, you are profiting with these evil companies that are “making themselves the most profitable industry the universe has ever seen & I’m not exaggerating”.
TxRancher1951 1 year ago
remember this incident & the news media tried to blame TX Gov. Bill Clements (Rep.) because he founded SEDCO in 1947 & this company was involvement with this Mexican well. The good news IMHO is that the GOM & all the seas’ living creatures didn’t expire in 1979. This current oil spill is a tragedy, but everyone should just take a breath & understand it’s NOT the end of the world.
TxRancher1951 1 year ago
17 BP employees hit the dislike button.
ThePopeAndy 1 year ago
she is wonderful and courageous to speak truth to power. great job!
buckeyeshine 1 year ago
The loony left environmentalists would have them drill 100 miles out, if they could. They can't drill on land, where it's safest and easiest (and our prices would be lower) because a couple dozen animals might be inconvenienced. So this is what we get instead... thousands of birds and animals dead. Nice trade-off for the wacky left.
eztobfree 1 year ago
@eztobfree Thanks for the regurgitation of conservative talking points there, Eztobfree.
ProfMTH 1 year ago
@ProfMTH I guess it doesn't matter to you that he's right?
ACJuggernaut 1 year ago
@eztobfree Did you miss the beginning of this video? The Alaskan pipeline is over land. The oil companies don't give a shit there ether. All that want is profit and less cost. But thanks for your mindless rebuttal.
ProudtobePagan 1 year ago
@ProudtobePagan Indeed.
ProfMTH 1 year ago
@eztobfree Just want you to know that you're an idiot.
TheShibo 1 year ago
@eztobfree ...while the rapacious right corporatocratic regime continues to delude us believing that fossil fuels are THE ONLY FUELS in order to continue sucking the planet dry of its natural resources to turn a stinking profit because of the EVER CONSTANT illusion that man cannot survive without this ancient invention of capitalist money being the LIFEBLOOD of a true civilization. There CAN be a 'happy medium'. Just gotta step outside the paradigm. Take your blinders off "easy-to-be-free".
Wambligleshga 9 months ago
What a Mad Cow
DeanMarshall100 1 year ago
Holy fuck, de ja vue. There is a glitch in the matrix.
Titania1 1 year ago
i'm from Brazil ans we are starting to get mad on this AMERICAN incident!
torolof 1 year ago
@satheeshactsinfo Planetresource(dot)net has a Eco friendly solution to clean up the tragedy British Petroleum has created
One person can still make a difference in this world, is that simple interactions have a rippling effect. Each time this gets pass along, the hope in cleaning our planet is passed on .watch the youtube video title "COMPLETE CLEAN UP OF THE GULF SPILL" by? PRR7075
edwardscollins205 1 year ago
They have learnt nothing or maybe this is the same agenda being repeated.
The World watches and says nothing..
The same statements being made as in June 13th 1979.
Maybe they will eventually do the relief wells, but taking months will cause untold damage in the mean time. Something really strange going on, so much hidden from view, in the UK we have been shown a baby dolphin being saved, and told it was covered in oil but it looked really normal, the whole thing looked staged.
mythoughtsalone 1 year ago
The worst thing about this situation is that suddenly conservatives are complaining that there wasn't enough REGULATION on deep water drilling...yet they rail against government regulation every chance they get. The hypocrisy is flowing like crude from a fucked up well.
VesusSheist 1 year ago
Profits over safety .Greed is good for the corporate world..sad but true.
neteraset9 1 year ago
Please watch this video on youtube; Mraskaryarf
MrAskaryarf 1 year ago
and this is where the environmentalists have brought us., Desolation and destruction.
rickster348 1 year ago
@rickster348 Environmentalists?
ProfMTH 1 year ago
@ProfMTH By forcing the poor beleaguered oil companies out to deep water instead of in shore where it would be possible to *kill* it. Nothing to do with a total lack of RD spending on *spill* cleanup or flat out fucking lying about being able to handle a blowout at depth. I suppose the environmentalist forced them to lie too.
angryislander56 1 year ago
@angryislander56 So what did you think of the info I sent dahlink?
angryislander56 1 year ago
@angryislander56 ::blush:: I haven't read it yet. It's on my "to read" list for this weekend, dahlink. :-)
ProfMTH 1 year ago
@rickster348 How have the people who have been trying to stop offshore drilling brought desolation and destruction?
coolintruddle 1 year ago
@rickster348 Huh?
pseudonamed 1 year ago
@pseudonamed rules and regulations that force oil rigs further from the coasts. Deep sea is more dangerous, and this was expected as a result.
rickster348 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@rickster348 Huh?
pseudonamed 1 year ago
Please watch me on you tube (Gulf Oil spill clean up) ,
MrAskaryarf 1 year ago
If oil companies are so profitable why are their share prices not sky high? BP & Shell have gone nowhere for over 12 years. Take a look at their charts.
They are drilling so deep becasue we are getting closer to peak oil. America will be financially hammered as crude rises higher. Emerging markets and Europe will not be hit so hard due to their more intense focus on energy conservation and usage levels.
America is in big trouble, you need the Gulf to help power your gas hungry cars.
DebtJunkie 1 year ago 3
@DebtJunkie "If oil companies are so profitable why are their share prices not sky high? BP & Shell have gone nowhere for over 12 years. Take a look at their charts."
So you're here to tell us that the oil companies are not doing well, is that correct?
ProfMTH 1 year ago
@ProfMTH
It appears someone does not understand the difference between profits, share price, and return on equity.
middlekk 1 year ago
@DebtJunkie you are sooooo full of shit.
nucsol 1 year ago
swedanica 1 year ago
The BP fat cats are still living as demi-gods while they point the finger at their corporate janitors for the world to marvel. Osama is a whore. They popped his cherry for the cost of a snow cone. Fucking marvelous!
chuckyskeys 1 year ago
Actually Rachel, hoping and praying do the same thing: nothing.
Still, great reporting; great points.
One thing has become clear: if humans don't die off soon (which is highly unlikely), we will destroy EVERTHING. Once everything is gone, we'll eat one another.
joethemoproductions 1 year ago
Maddow's mouth is like the spewing oil pipe. It won't stop!
216trixie 1 year ago
Investigate Transocean and Haliburton who are the main culprits. Freeze their assets before investigations. Haliburton is responsible for dubious cementing techniques to cut costs all around the world.
InterfaceDream 1 year ago
The history lesson was interesting. Her exaggeration (she knows what's in the whole universe, eh?) as well as ignoring WHY the oil companies had to get better drilling that deep, not so much.
greyed 1 year ago
Oil-eating Microbes. We had this technology in 1989, they die out once the oil is gone, they don't produce any toxic byproducts, they are even safe for marine life to eat! Also there are warehouse stores of them in the south. Why isn't it being used? Because BP wants to save the oil. *facepalm*
HollyMolly1386 1 year ago
@HollyMolly1386 "Oil-eating Microbes"
Really?! I've never heard of that. How interesting.
ProfMTH 1 year ago
@ProfMTH To my knowledge, the technology HollyMolly1386 is referring to (bioremediation) has already been used previously (the Exxon Valdez spill) and essentially accomplished nothing.
SexedUpAtheist 1 year ago
@ProfMTH They exist naturally, you can't just introduce these microbes since they are already there. They just dump loads of fertilizers into the ocean to make them multiply, the problem is the fertilizers feed everything, algae, stuff you don't want to feed etc. They also don't eat every carbon chain in oil just a select few.
There isn't a global conspiracy to not release these bacteria, it would be impossible to prevent them reaching the oil anyway. Also the oil can't be recovered easily.
ScienceGaveMeAHadron 1 year ago
SIgh. First time tragedy; second time farce; third time, nobody alive to count....
1Weemaryanne 1 year ago
This explosion leads to a Major leak, spilling out 5,000 Barrels or around 200,000 Gallons of oil a day so they say. Others say it could be 70,000 Barrels which equals out to be 2,800,000 Gallons Gusting out a day. Is anyone really sure how much is leaking out.? I assume not. The Gusting of Oil is getting worse every day!
23Intuition32 1 year ago
On April 12th 2010 Oil Giant Hallibuton buys all outstanding Stock of the America's largest Oil Clean Up Company; Boots & Coots. On April 19th Halliburton visits an Oil Rig 50 miles off the Louisiana to pump cement down the already existing Wells. Now 20 hours later following his visit an explosion rocks the Sea.
23Intuition32 1 year ago 2
Those that don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.......
ciresieman 1 year ago
youl better hope nothing realy hapends from now on becouse i wont be giveing any of my advice again Ever ,if it the end of the world, i die befor i help again
glenanimals 1 year ago
wow and they said i was crazy to drill other oil wells in a line to take off the pressure,
oh wait it was my bad spelling people cared about !
hmmmmm or the block of cement made like a club with air chambers you fill with water and it would slowy skink to block the hole
oh well im glan i have a very low IQ and bad spelling at list i know what im doing
glenanimals 1 year ago
How big is this hole? I don't suppose it's Sarah Palin-shaped, is it?...
Just a thought....
RobNorthampton 1 year ago 4
@RobNorthampton If that hasn't been investigated yet, it should be immediately.
ProfMTH 1 year ago
Place a nuke on the seafloor about a hundred yards away Thats how the russian do it They used nukes five times to stop oil leaks
TamirylAuvahn 1 year ago
Sad really
MoveOrder 1 year ago
wow! I didnt know all this had happened 31 yrs ago...huh..
ishmaly 1 year ago
Rachel Maddow, probably the only US newscaster I respect.
wjhopper 1 year ago 18
I see the free market comment has already been made, so.... drill, baby, drill!!!!
That should solve it.
Cayvmann 1 year ago
Why can't we allow drilling closer to shore?That would mean that drilling was done in shallower waters. Spills like this would be easier to repair.
dave4248 1 year ago
@dave4248 Wasn't easier to repair in 1979.
ProfMTH 1 year ago
@dave4248 Maybe we should just stop drilling already. We're inches away from some real breakthroughs in wind, solar, and even fusion, all 100% renewable and 100% clean energy sources. it's the 21st century. We should be OFF fossil fuels and this most recent spill is just further proof of that.
And obviously, you've not paid attention to the video. 200 feet down for the 1979 spill and now we're in 2 miles using the same failed methods to cap the spill. Fucking bullshit.
Deioth 1 year ago
@Deioth Exactly right.
ProfMTH 1 year ago
@Deioth We can stop using all oil right now, all you have to do is live like it's 1799. Whale oil for lubricants and to light your house, no plastic at all meaning medical care will go backwards 100 years, no fertilizer means wide-spread famine (organic is bullshit), etc, etc, etc...
sorienor 1 year ago
@sorienor WTF are you talking about? I know plastic is a petroleum product and all, but... seriously wtf are you talking about? Are you seriously nitpicking at my choice of words when I'm clearly discussing our energy future?
Deioth 1 year ago
@sorienor says, "organic is bullshit". LOL! You clever bastard. ;)
asellison724 1 year ago
Americans are very short-sighted by nature. Whether its the automobile industry, the banking system, healthcare,or the oil industry, potential problems are always ignored to the extreme detriment of America's citizens. The reason for ignoring these problems? LARGE SHORT-TERM PROFIT,and to a lesser degree,the lack of consequences for bad decisions. How can anyone call for deregulation when these large institutions clearly can't effectively regulate themselves?
utoad9 1 year ago
for all we know this oil spill could just be a way to raise prices for oil
knuck7 1 year ago
See, I need to take up a collection for some scuba gear and a few rolls of duct tape. I will fix that right up
ninjabob42 1 year ago
We are facing pure incompetence here.
DeistByDefinition 1 year ago
It isn't the oil company's fault, its the government....all those in favor of deregulation, smaller government and less oversight, say I. Even now, they had their chance, the government should charge them with a crime and fine BP or seize all BP assets, but i don't see that happening.
mard420 1 year ago
Hey, I have an idea!
Let's stop using oil for energy! Oh, wait... that would destroy civilization as we know it, according to oil companies.
bighugejake 1 year ago 12
"praying is better than hoping at this point"
I love Rachel Maddow, i love her even more when she gets sarcastic.
LeafHuntress 1 year ago
"praying is better than hoping at this point"
Yes, both have the same chance of helping but with prayer you can feel as good as the people who are down there working or volunteering to help save the wildlife... You know, people who are actually doing stuff.
I just can't believe she said that, whoever this anchor is I love her but that took me by surprise.
FuturePants 1 year ago
rachel madcow I cant believe this moron actually sucks the dick of rupert murdoch.
she would be nothing without a teleprompter.
Romansteel13 1 year ago
deja vu all over again
ecsyntric 1 year ago
June 13 1979!! i was born exactly 12 years later!
G4M3GUY 1 year ago
Drill baby, drill!!
Americans want to have their SUVs and drive like there is no tomorrow too. As long as we dump trillions of dollars into holes like Iraq instead of working on alternative energies and conservation, we are going to have crap like this.
Even more in fact as the oil becomes harder to find and technology pushed to the limits.
allahBurpsCum 1 year ago
The fact that they have had this exact same problem and yet still used the same techniques that failed miserably...amazing. I also idly wonder what the dollar cost for each 'failed' attempt was/is. I wonder if the attempts scale in cost, in a business hope that the cheapest method will work lol.
The truy sick irony is they will still get the oil with extra wells.
LordUlster 1 year ago
THis makes me feel better about the oil spill knowing that they have solved it once before
chase0291 1 year ago
Jon Stewart would have done a better job with a skit like this on The Daily Show.
incoherentpoet 1 year ago
Vanity of vanities; all is vanity. What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun? One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh. The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose. The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
ionz75 1 year ago
By the way............there is no comparison to what is happening in the gulf today!!!!!............The Ixtoc drilling was only a 3 km (1.9 mi) deep oil well when the drilling rig Sedco 135F lost drilling mud circulation.
SEK4110 1 year ago
this is why learning about history and documenting it is important
csidynos 1 year ago
and where do u think all the us tax dollars are going ?
Ezldor 1 year ago
WOW.... This is depressing.
andrewrberkshire 1 year ago
@ ProfMTH. Are you the narrator on the show,"Expedition Great White" that"s on Nat. Geo?
willhound2 1 year ago
@willhound2 No. But I'd love to be. :-)
ProfMTH 1 year ago
@ProfMTH If you haven't seen it yet, you should. I would have put money on it that it was you.
willhound2 1 year ago
Q: How many oil executives does it take to come up with a way to stop a leak?
A: None, the Free Market (tm) will do it for them.
Q: But isn't the market made up of these very same people, so they should get to work and...
A: Silence! The Free Market (tm) will do it for them!
PS: Maddow is awesome, especially when digging up old stories or pointing out PR tomfoolery (astroturfing, fake experts, conspiracy theories, etc - i.e. FreedomWorks, Koch Industries, AFP...). That's the real news here.
TempestStormwind 1 year ago 4
@TempestStormwind "the Free Market (tm)"
LOL.
ProfMTH 1 year ago
now i am really depressed
I really need to make an effort to watch this woman.
thanks Prof
Obama is now officially a bigger disappointment to me than my first piece of tail.
angryislander56 1 year ago
I think this is the essence of stupidity. When you make a mistake and are too fucking stupid to learn from it. Perfect composition of human stupidity. Un-fucking-believable.
darrenc182 1 year ago
BP wants to preserve this well for production and has done F*all to clean up this mess! Hello.., proper booming? What about the suck and salvage recovery the Saudi's developed in the '90s? Shore clean up should be the last defense when all else fails!
WHY are the state and federal governments letting BP control this? Not hiring other companies to assist or take over certain areas? At minimum make BP works with all the oil companies who also have off shore rigs to work to COOPERATIVE solution!!!
longhairred 1 year ago
lmao
why profmth rocks
gambitraven 1 year ago
Hey Rachel...exactly why don't you ever comment on how your BS ENVIRONMENTALISM has CAUSED us to go further and further offshore to drill HUH.....HUH??? Maybe if the nvironazis weren't so bleepin' busy trying to DICTATE EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF OUR LIVES, we could be drilling ON LAND WHERE IT'S SAFER! But no....that would be journalistic INTEGRITY. Of which you have none. Go kiss your girlfriend and complement her 70s hairdo and stop acting like you have two marbles to roll around in your head.
maddashecc 1 year ago
@maddashecc Yeah. Let the oil companies regulate themselves, you dumb cunt. They care about the environment more than profit and whatnot. Etc, etc.
/sarcasm
AtheistDave89 1 year ago
Thanks for this Prof
flips300021 1 year ago
Here's a thought, drill the relief well simultaneously with the main well. Dooh.
ExcitableNeurons 1 year ago
@ExcitableNeurons BP has been lobbying to change that rule here in Canada. Or more specifically, that a relief well must be drilled in the same season.
longhairred 1 year ago
OMG!
Elaina43 1 year ago
The only good news here is Rachel Maddow. I <3 her!!
tigsdk 1 year ago
Shocking!
terroil 1 year ago
Gives one to think...
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
The only thing Rachel didn't mention was that drilling the relief wells is just as dangerous as drilling the original well in the first place. You yeah! And we're going to be attempting to drill those wells during Hurricane season. So we got that going for us...
TheRationalHatter 1 year ago
Idea, take pipe that is wider than the busted pipe, and put that pipe around the busted pipe until you get that pipe to the surface (make sure you're wider pipe is sealed into the ground). Fix problem in one week. Take your sweet time figuring out how to make the oil rig operational again.
CarpeOmne 1 year ago
@CarpeOmne that won't work... the pipe would need to be so wide that it would be crushed by the water pressure... it certainly couldn't be a mile long...
Its the well cap thats broken... so thats more or less that!
The choices are limited... I suppose they could always put a 'cone' over it... ohh wait a minute... hmmmmm
okay barring the cone idea... then plugging up the bore hole might be an idea... assuming they can get something to into the bore hole?
Basically BP are screwed!
MumblingMickey 1 year ago
@CarpeOmne I have zero idea why they haven't done this. One pipe, lowered a section at a time, til it covers the pipe. All the oil comes to the surface where it can be collected.
216trixie 1 year ago
It seemed as if all the attempts to plug the well were the result of not having encountered the same problem before, or to a lesser magnitude. Now that I see it's all happened before, it really makes BP look bad to not prepare for a potential disaster.
JBSauce 1 year ago
It's called "crude" for a reason.
AncelDeLambert 1 year ago
ProfMTH your videos are always funny and I enjoy them greatly, but I have to be honest- this is easily the funniest 8 minutes I have ever watched on your channel.
WaysOfMan 1 year ago
Wow just wow! Go figure......
jasason10 1 year ago
Can't they just detonate something off the side of the leak so it might cave in?
ProfessorMacintosh 1 year ago
Only the stupidest people on earth would allow history to repeat itself like this.
RaminHAL9001 1 year ago
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
-Albert Einstein
lordcheetah 1 year ago
@lordcheetah You are right, this is insanity. We had an incompetent Democrat President in 1979 when this oil fire happened and another incompetent Democrat president now. Democrats should start having candidates who can actually lead. So far Obama has partied with a Beatle, gone on vacation, golfed several times, attended fundraisers, done sports interviews and had lunches for sports teams at the White House. This spill hasn't messed up Obamas social life much.
independentview1 1 year ago
@independentview1 Yeah, let's blame the Democrats! That'll fix it! Or not.
(Although I do agree Obama's response was not what it should've been and we need progressive Democrats with some stones).
lordcheetah 1 year ago
@lordcheetah Obamas response is still not what is needed. What is needed is for him to do something to actually help stop the leak.
independentview1 1 year ago
@independentview1 "Obamas response is still not what is needed. What is needed is for him to do something to actually help stop the leak."
Such as?
ProfMTH 1 year ago
@ProfMTH Such as put a hold on his busy social life, come to the Gulf and bring some of the hundreds of government paid scientists with him and work on a solution to the leak instead of his golf game. Such as get together in the Gulf people from other oil companies from around the world and get their ideas on stopping this. Such as he could at least try to be a leader or at least pretend he cares more about stopping this disaster than he does about singing Hey Jude with a Beatle.
independentview1 1 year ago
@independentview1 The only known technology that works is an alternate well and that takes 3 months.
lordcheetah 1 year ago
@independentview1 "Such as put a hold on his busy social life, come to the Gulf and bring some of the hundreds of government paid scientists with him and work on a solution to the leak instead of his golf game."
The President of the United States himself must be physically present in the Gulf in order to solve this problem? Seriously?
"...at least pretend he cares more about stopping this disaster...."
Ah, so he should show more emotion, is that it? That wil stop the gushing oil?
ProfMTH 1 year ago 12
@ProfMTH Who said anything about emotion. Obama said the leak was his "top priority" yet he spends far more time tending to his social calendar than to helping an entire region from being destroyed. Obama being in the Gulf and seeing daily what is not being done would be much more helpful than him being on vacation, at a fundraiser or playing basketball. The environment and economy in the Gulf are being devastated and Obama can't be bothered with it for more than a few hours.
independentview1 1 year ago
@ProfMTH
obama could announce that there will be no new oil wells anywhere in territory under US influence until this leak is stopped. he already did one important thing, and that is to ask for two support wells instead of one when they announced they will try getting a support well online. also, why are these big corporations persons before the law in the united states? and if they are, why not put BP in jail for a few years like we would with a person that does something like this?
kurtilein3 1 year ago
@ProfMTH
Maybe Obama could stuff all the top executives from Goldman-Sachs, JP Morgan, and Pfizer in there...but alas he would have no friends. Maybe he could stop being in retarded wars and make a lid made from scrap metal made of stealth bombers and Predator drones. No, he would lose friends again... Maybe he could just dump all the nuclear waste from the plants he wants to build. Or he could throw the 4th, 6th, and 8th amendments in there, he's not using them. What a terrible president.
DrSwindles 1 year ago
@Sonicisbadazz Your kidding? One of the worst ecological disasters in history, one of the worst public relation disasters in BP history, on of the worst threats to BP stock value in the companies history and they are not using the new technology to protect a proprietary interest?
Maddow’s logic is clear. If they had something new that worked they would be using it. And they have nothing new.... in thirty years.
I'll point out the drilling technology has increased greatly.
guyblond80 1 year ago
@guyblond80 LOL Yeah, I'm really just suggesting stuff here to play devil's advocate. Her logic might make sense to us, but that doesn't mean there isn't more to the story than she's presenting
My issue isn't really with Maddow's logic, but her tone; what she's saying might be true, but there's an implication behind it that BP doesn't care about anything but their profits, and as such haven't come up with new technology to properly protect from disasters like these. That doesn't seem fair to me
Sonicisbadazz 1 year ago
@Sonicisbadazz
I appreciate your point, but when accidents happen at 5000 ft there is a blindingly obvious solution - If you can't engineer fail-safe reactive systems then create proactive solutions everyone knows WILL work.
Drill baby, drill! [but also drill relief wells BEFORE extracting], pre-drilled relief wells could have stemmed the flow in days, but they cost money - and BP would rather 'externalise' that risk to the taxpayer.
Origen305 1 year ago
Rachel Maddow is my favorite lesbian political commentator. She beats the hell out of Ann Coulter.
TaylorX04 1 year ago
@TaylorX04 Let's just be clear here, Taylor: Ann Coulter is a man.
ProfMTH 1 year ago 12
@ProfMTH I guess calling her a lesbian would be an insult to lesbians.
TaylorX04 1 year ago
@TaylorX04 Indeed.
ProfMTH 1 year ago
Does anybody really expect anything different from oil oligopolies? These companies' motives are profit, which is incompatible with higher safety standards. The only solution is stricter regulation.
IFloridaMotocrossI 1 year ago
This happened in the year I was born. I had no idea.
Unbelievable. Why is Rachel the only one on this?
Mathesonguy 1 year ago
Pfft, Peak Oil is around the corner and we are no closer to finding an alternative. Meanwhile, more events like this seem to be what we have to look forward too.
Maphisto86 1 year ago
why are you guys harassing the nice oil companies??? OMG we need to deregulate and just let the free market take care of everything! the oil companies will take care of everything if you just give them a chance! they love us every bit as much as Jesus does!
isaachaze1 1 year ago 13
@isaachaze1 LOL.
ProfMTH 1 year ago
@isaachaze1 I agree, we need the bureaucratic saints, those perfect humans that have never shown their incompetence and ineptitude to fix everything!! everything.
So lucky we are to have so many honest, incorruptible, smart, professional and know it all to keep an eye on those free marketers.
I use the subway 90% of the time by the way, but if I there were BP gas stations in my city, I would not use them, telling them that their private incompetence has economic consequences.
Free markets rule
lapiz1969 1 year ago
wow, she's 37? damn she's hot
Leadman1989 1 year ago 2
Last night Dpr made a point about this. It may be horrible and devastating, but baring in mind that stuff you put in your car didn't pop up out of nowhere.
Leonis1989 1 year ago
I wonder if the Republicans at the time tried their hardest to say "This is Carter's Watergate, see, see, see, its his Watergate!!!"
eirefrance 1 year ago
As of writing 6 people didn't like this video. Does that mean BP directors use YouTube?
LAnonHubbard 1 year ago
America is the only country in the world that does not demand that relief wells be drilled FIRST - not simply after a mistake
Craigipedia 1 year ago
Oh, I just stumbled onto this last night. Insane
Sydpart2 1 year ago
Wow, thanks for showing this.
AmidaTobosaku 1 year ago
I've read up a bit about the Ixtoc disaster, but this report really provided a lot of shocking and disappointing info
We folks at the Gulf sure appreciate the kind words and thoughts.
We all have a hellava fight ahead of us and we'll make it through-but not without losses. All our coastal beaches are like a long string of precious white pearls, treasures beyond compare and they don't belong to just the folks who live here-they belong to everyone
Txs so much for posting this vid
phenixwryter 1 year ago
@phenixwryter "Txs so much for posting this vid"
Not a problem. I'm sorry to see you guys down there facing such a horrible problem yet again.
ProfMTH 1 year ago
and I've seen it befoooooore
and I'll see it agaaaaain
yes I've seen it befooooore
just lil' bits of history repeating
pigburn 1 year ago
Were there any hurricanes at the time and if so what happened to the nature of the oil spill?
noado51 1 year ago
'Operation Sombrero' lol
coolintruddle 1 year ago 2
That was from a pool of oil,... today this is a volcano or main arteriey cut open alot diference from then.
spellbinder00 1 year ago
@spellbinder00 She doesn't see the difference from a leak and a volcano of oil flowing into the Gulf. see my videos from Lindsey Williams on my site! this is worst than ever by a lightyear. This leak isn't going to be pluged as easy as it was then.
spellbinder00 1 year ago
@spellbinder00 lol volcano of oil
pigburn 1 year ago
These oil spills are totally not as bad as the nuclear power plant problems in our worlds history... oh wait.
When are we going to stop burning carbon for energy? So messy.
copred 1 year ago
These oil spills are totally not as bad as the nuclear power plant problems in our worlds history... oh wait.
When are we going to stop burning carbon for energy? So messy.
copred 1 year ago
Now you see to sane and rational people that just seems condescending. And to a point actually offensive. Your God is no more likely to exist than Allah or Zeus, they all have the exact same evidence such as the Koran and Zeus and the Greek gods have far more literature to back them up. So why do you think Christianity is so special? just because you were born that way? it's no more a 'choice' than being gay or straight. And if you are a troll you fail so horribly at it. May God B.Less!
MudHut67 1 year ago
@MudHut67 My friend, you deserve condescension. You're an expert on God? You have some holistic experience in this regard? Or are you just being a twit, a virgin talking about sex? I can't speak for other Christians, some of whom are ALMOST as scared of God as are atheists. But I know Christ through my living amid the indwelling of His Spirit as a holistic state of being. We chose EACH OTHER. You won't understand this esoteric matter, because in regard to spiritual things, you're a virgin twit.
baltimark 1 year ago
@baltimark How many people fear what they don't believe exists?
TylerBoBylerFyler 1 year ago
@TylerBoBylerFyler If you honestly dig down deep deep deep into your psyche, which is exactly what atheists never dare do, if they want to stay what they are, you will find that fear is more fundamental than belief. Moreover, you will find that your doubt of God rests on a demonic fear of experienicing Him. Worse than that, you'll find that your doubt of God is WILLFUL, motivated by gratuitous spite toward Him. You are a victim spiritual warfare, of which you're WILLFULLY unaware. Amen?
baltimark 1 year ago
@baltimark Wait. Hold on a minute here baltimark, your ramblings confuse me. There's a few things you've got to sort out for me here. Firstly when you say "Demonic Fear" do you mean "a fear instilled in me by some demonic force, seperate from what I myself am"? Secondly, in your life how many demonic presences have you become aware of which are actually 'demonic presences' by definition?