@charonveritas and no, idiot, McCarthy was NOT right, he was a criminal and a fraud, the most unamerican worm ever to pollute this nation. He destroyed the lives of a lot of good, decent people with the sickest of lies. Capitalism is too immoral to stand on its own in an honest debate, this rancid lie that anyone who opposes inequality is "trying to destroy America" got innocent people killed, and the pigs STILL use lies and fraud to destroy freedom and lock people up for what they THINK.
@charonveritas You've proven again lying is the only way for you. I did not "admit" your sick trash. The rich are not "successful" and economic justice is NOT "PUNISHMENT."
It's as predictable as the sun setting in the west, scumbag racists will claim those fighting against racism are "racist", then prove themselves to be again with the vile lie of anyone being a "race hustler" a despicable KKK term that implies racism doesn't exist, you just think blacks make it up.
@charonveritas I don't make up jack. Nothing. You think civil rights leaders who risk their lives and dedicate themselves to justice and equality don't care? Just because racist shit like yourself doesn't care doesn't mean nobody does. You have an illness, a sickness, that decent people don't have. Yeah, racist lowlifes like you understand the ghetto better than the people who live there, all you understand is "blame the victim" and gutter politics.
@charonveritas- You can cram "ask politely can I please be treated like a human being?" right up your ass. The answer is a person stands up and fucking DEMANDS respect. The number of social justice gains in this nation's history acheived by asking nicely stands at zero. Ending slavery took a war, people bled and died to establish unions and the rights of workers, gays, women, NOBODY was given justice, they had to fight, and I will fight with them until I am cold and dead.
@whitemanwaydownsouth we have the bullshit that whites face "discrimination" the hysterical lie that anyone says all criticism of Obama's policies is racist, your malarky claiming the democratic party is "racist", true revisionism of history, and this sick trash of claiming Obama was a natural born American, proven LONG ago and raised only because of his race and "foreign-sounding" name.
That's a lot of nasty racism, there's also the crap of the media being "liberal" that's just dumb.
@PrisonerNumber9653 LOL you are all over the place. and seriously in denial, im not going to waste any more time trying to prove to you that the obvious exists.
@whitemanwaydownsouth Examples? The worst is the despicable lie that support racial justice are "anti-white culture." This crap that "people are looking to be offended and will find racism wherever they look", the vile terms "race card" and "race hustler" are sick lies, the total lie that there was "racism" behind there not being federal changes in the overblown nonsense of "New Black Panthers", this bunk the media made up tea party racism, more
@whitemanwaydownsouth Sure, google that and find all sorts of right wing tools shilling for bosses and smearing working people. Sure there are labor laws, which are violated by bosses every chance they get (see dead miners in West Virginia) and which exist at all because of organized labor.
The problem is greedy corporations who think profit is more important than human beins, and fools like you who think these wage slaves can choose to quit because there are so many great jobs out there now.
@PrisonerNumber9653 typical liberal tactic,try to make the exception the rule.like saying "rap music doesnt promote violence,criminal activity and irresponsible sexual conduct, havent you ever heard will smith's raps?" you give one example,one(1)uno. you are insane to assert that most private companies are incapable of honestly following labor laws, or are saying that employers taht are not union run are incapable of honestly following labor laws. which is it, or is it both? please clear this up
@whitemanwaydownsouth It's not a "tactic", it's a fact, and I didn't mention Will Fucking Smith. Even music that DOES talk about the reality of life in the inner city is not PROMOTING it.
It's the most naive of bullshit to claim private companies will follow labor laws out of the goodness of their heart, they have none. They exist solely to make profit, and will screw workers AND consumers as much as they can get away with every single time. THAT is why unions are needed, more are needed.
@charonveritas- Wow, to spread such ignorance and claim I'm not educated, that's a rare arrogance you got there. There's nothing remotely "artificial" about getting decent pay through collective bargaining, it increases the buying power of working people.
There are plenty of unions in rtw states, those workers have better pay and conditions and steal those benefits. EVERY government contract should either be with union workers or pay prevailing wage.
@PrisonerNumber9653 YOU HAVE NO IDEA,you are just repeating what you are told. if this administration did not show favoritism to unions, why did they come down hard on boeing for opening a plant in south carolina? the fed tried to bully boeing into opening the plant in washington state instead. why do you fail to see the corruption?you obviously do not know much about govt contracting. the lowest bid has the job, UNLESS a minority owned company can get within 30% of the lowest bid
@prisoner9653 provided the lowest bid was submitted by a non-minority owned company.and before you try to'tell me how it is', save it. i deal with this everyday
@whitemanwaydownsouth Lie, it's not "repeating what I'm told", it's knowing the FACTS. The administration does NOT show favoritism to unions, but isn't screwing them like the GOP had done. Boeing's attempt to get around labor laws SHOULD be criticized, it's not "bullying" it's the LAW. Corporations have been trying to bust unions and pay slave wages for over a century, and it violates common decency, and the law. There's nothing remotely "corrupt" about it, only Boeing is corrupt.
@whitemanwaydownsouth And it should NOT merely be "the lowest bid", companies which fail to recognize the rights of workers shouldn't get government contracts, and Affirmative Action for minority-owned businesses is perfectly appropriate.
Their is NO theft. Unions don't provide any protection in RTW states, and therefore there can not be any theft.
You're strictly using hyperbole in your failed argument. Boeing built a plant in S.C., and now the fed'l gov't wants to (block) force a private company to build planes in a Union state. How is that NOT extortion by definition? Unions, a legalized form of the Mafia...
@Charonveritas Horsecrap. When corporations rake in billions off the sweat of the WORKERS and don't give them a decent salary or benefits or working conditions, that is theft. Being a so-called "private" company doesn't give you the right to violate labor laws. It's not "extortion", it's common decency. Unions have NOTHING in common with the mafia, your blind, sick loyalty to corporate greed is a big part of what's wrong with our country.
@PrisonerNumber9653 LOL! people have a choice to find a job that suits them, if someone is unhappy at their job they are free to go elsewhere. violate labor laws?!? what the fuck are you talking about?plenty of people get benefits and there are regulations controlling working conditions. you are really brainwashed to believe that unions are the only way to have worthwhile employment. google the connection between organized crime and labor unions.you are sadly misinformed and easily misled. sad
@whitemanwaydownsouth Bullshit. People are NOT free to find a job that suits them, there are MILLIONS working jobs that don't suit them in the LEAST because they are forced to by economics. You think people are "suited" to flip burgers all day long? To stack boxes in WalMart at 2 am for slave wages? They are NOT free to go anywhere else, we have MASSIVE unemployment, caused ON PURPOSE by corporate greed. There are barely adequate regulations, being IGNORED by companies and NEVER enforced.
@whitemanwaydownsouth I'm not remotely misinformed, you've yet to show ONE WORD I've said to be untrue.
What idiocy, "Google this" Yeah, google it and find a whole bunch of other racist right wing LIARS saying the same trash.
Riddle me this--what sentence did the owner of Massey Energy, with HUNDREDS of labor law and safety violations, leading to MANY deaths, get for his crimes? How long did he go to jail for those murders??
@whitemanwaydownsouth No, what's wrong with our country is racist scumbags like you who think it's "overpaid" to have a decent living, and "pampered" to not have your life threatened at work every day.
WORKERS ARE NOT CORPORATE PROPERTY, THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS.
You were right about one thing, every word you said is bullshit.
The only "pampered and overpaid" people are the BOSSES. And you want them to steal even more from the workers.
@PrisonerNumber9653 you obviously have never been at work, oyu are talking about every privately owned company being unfair to workers and having unsafe work enviornment , but can only site two examples. people who have no skills or experience or education have to start somewhere,only a fool would expect otherwise. the massive unemployment has many causes, and greeed is one of them, but liberal policy plays a part. and if you are going to call me racist, give specific examples of my racism.
@PrisonerNumber9653 "Being a so-called "private" company doesn't give you the right to violate labor laws."-You. It's funny, I brought up that subject several posts ago. With current Labor Law, there is no real need for Unions. The "theft" occurs when the public has to support Union retirement programs, that Union members didn't pay for.
Your Leftist-Socialist thought is what's driving this country straight to Hell. Where is that wonderful Union leader Jimmy Hoffa at anyway? Mafia...?
@whitemanwaydownsouth I think it's safe to say that deprogramming isn't an option with this one. It's in lock-step with Leftist-Socialist thought, and can't be swayed.
Unions were once necessary to protect the worker, but they've been perverted to feed off of those they would have protected. Unions are nothing more than organized crime syndicates with a license to operate, and since they offer support to an unjust POTUS, are protected themselves by the Fed'l Gov't.
@whitemanwaydownsouth That's not what the right is about, the wealthy people and big business millionaires they stand for are already registered and voting, no, their tactic now is to PREVENT as many poor and black people from voting as possible, which is why the fraud that lead to the lynching of ACORN happened, and why racist "voter ID" laws happen, and the Jim Crow laws preventing felons from voting EVEN AFTER COMPLETING THEIR PUNISHMENT happen.
@Charonveritas There is no "programming" in common decency, it's the lies that promote the sick greed of capitalism being programmed.
Unions were NOT "once necessary", they are EVERY SINGLE BIT as necessary today, as rights people fought and died for DECADES ago are being stolen by scumbags like Walker in Wisconsin. It's the vilest of LIES to call workers "criminals" for standing up for their rights.
An "unjust president"? You can't even stand to have a centrist Democrat, he's "unjust"? Bull.
@PrisonerNumber9653 Continue to "cry me a river..." You sound like you're afraid of a little hard work to me. I'd love to see you walk in my shoes when I cleared land, and cut "pulp wood" in SW Mississippi to prepare for football camp in the 70's.
And yes, "race-hustlers", and the "race card:" are used everyday. Al "Tawana Brawley" Sharpton, Jesse "spit in the Whiteman's food" Jackson, etc. are good examples. If it weren't for their racism, they'd have to get a real JOB. Real truth...
@Charonveritas Still the vilest of lies. In fact the poorest Americans work far HARDER than the wealthy (and why are you talking about me? I'm not poor, you gotta get it through your head that just because you don't give a damn about anyone but yourself, not everyone is so selfish)
Spare me the hypocritical crap about how your greed is justified by the work you've done in the past. You know perfectly well most of the people you cleared land with are STILL dirt poor, not because they're "lazy"
@PrisonerNumber9653 The world needs ditch diggers too asshole. If you measure wealth through accumulation of money, you're a lost soul.
If, and that's a big "if" people become wealthy, why would they work harder? Maybe so their company can become larger, and oops! Maybe create more JOBS.
@Charonveritas Yes, the world DOES need ditch diggers, which is why they should be paid a living wage and should work in safe conditions and treated with the same dignity as white collar workers.
This BULLSHIT that people build wealth so they can "create more jobs" is as naive as it gets, they do so so THEY can enjoy more obscene luxury, they don't create jobs, and they only put out the opportunity for as FEW as they can get away with, and exploit those.
@PrisonerNumber9653 So you admit you just want to PUNISH successful people then? See how easy that was to get off your chest?
YOU are a racist, and a race hustler yourself. You call people "Adolph", refer to my "KKK" teachings. You're a pathetic worm of a person. By the way, McCarthy was right in his beliefs.
@whitemanwaydownsouth Not in the slightest, which is why there's a vast emptiness where you MIGHT have provided some EVIDENCE that one word I'd said was untrue, were they in fact untrue.
You're out of touch with reality if you think the wealthy work harder than the poor. Not even close. This vile LIE that the poor are just "lazy" was fictionalized ages ago as a sick EXCUSE for the evil inequality of our society. It was a lie then, and always will be.
@Charonveritas "Race hustlers" and "race card" remain viciously racist terms. Yes, they're used every day, to insult and attack anyone who fights for equality. Were Martin Luther King alive today, you'd say exactly the same hateful things about him. Racism is not a game, and NOBODY "hustles" it or tries to "stir it up".
Calling civil rights leaders "racist" is the most racist of lies. Yes, they've said dumb things now and then, calling them "racist" is sick bullshit. They HAVE real jobs.
@PrisonerNumber9653 LOL its wrong to point out race hustlers, but its ok for you and the other race hustlers to call racist anyone who has an opinion that differs from yours LOL@yourhypocrisy
@whitemanwaydownsouth You aren't "pointing out" shit, "Race hustlers" is a vile, racist LIE.
It remains BULLSHIT to say "you call racist anyone who has an opinion that differs from you." A pure 100% LIE. There are COUNTLESS people I encounter EVERY DAY who have opinions that differ from mine who aren't racist.
You aren't one of them. Your racism's been established, you asked where was it, I pointed out so many examples I couldn't fit them into a single post, and skipped a few.
@PrisonerNumber9653 so, from what i can tell, you are calling me racist because 1) i recognize the existence of race hustlers 2)because i think the naacp has more than equal rights in mind 3) because i dont think eric holder letting the new black panthers slide is a good idea4) because i call bullshit and ask you to prove the tea party is racist ? am i right? is this why you are calling me racist?i need to know where you are on this.
@whitemanwaydownsouth You don't "realize" anything. There's no such thing as "race hustlers," the NAACP does NOT have more than equal rights in mind, Eric Holder didn't bring FEDERAL CHARGES against the NBP because there was nowhere CLOSE to enough EVIDENCE to do so, and the PROOF that the tea party is racist has ALREADY been provided, from major events with racists as KEYNOTE SPEAKERS to their vile attacks on John Lewis and Emmanuel Cleaver to the sick racism of their attacks on NAACP.
@whitemanwaydownsouth Now, I've ALREADY laid out any NUMBER of very good reasons to confirm you are a racist, do you really need me to repeat them? You KNOW you're a racist, that you can parrot the vile lies about Martin Luther King straight out of hate group propaganda then pretend to not be a racist is truly hypocrisy at a championship level.
@PrisonerNumber9653 go back and read again you fucking cunt, i said mlk jr was a good leader and wanted equality,learn to comprehend who says what!! you are using your fucking opinions and presenting it as fact, fact is, you are giving bullshit examples. now give real examples of racism or shut the fuck up you pathetic fucking moron.you are incapable of making one single thought for yourself you sheep. you call everything you dont want to hear lies and are 1 of many race hustling pieces of shit!
@whitemanwaydownsouth Yeah, I read your lies, AND comprehended them far better than you. Like so many racists, you PRETEND to respect MLK, while viciously attacking everything he believed in and stood for.
I present opinions as opinions and facts as facts. The FACT remains that MLK was an advocate of aggressive affirmative action, slavery reparations, organized labor and economic justice and redistribution. What of that do you agree with?
@whitemanwaydownsouth Do you REALLY want all those examples laid out again? I gave real examples of racism from you.
This hilarious bullshit that I'm a "sheep" and don't think for myself is just rich. Yeah, I'm following the herd, there are SO MANY socialists and SO MANY anti-racism advocates in Oklahoma City, I'm just looking cool.
What an idiot you are.
There is no such thing as "race hustling," it's just another racist lie from you.
@whitemanwaydownsouth Because you say so? Yeah, I used to that sort of cement-headed arrogance from racists, it's amazing how great you can feel about yourself when you don't have the burden of a conscience.
@PrisonerNumber9653 no, cunt, cause everything yo say is bullshit. no job can have safe working conditions unless they are union, bullshit. no such thing as race hustlers, bullshit. replicans are racist, bullshit, the tea party is racist bullshit. everything yopu disagree with is racist, bullshit. you are just a racehustling bullshit peddler. fuck you asshole.
@whitemanwaydownsouth I didn't say no job but unions had safe conditions, I said unions were the reason we've got safer working conditions, without them we had people locked in firetraps, and without them we STILL have deathtraps. Unions DO create safer conditions.
There is no such thing as a "race hustler". NOBODY "hustles" racism, civil rights leaders OPPOSE it, racists like you slur them.
I didn't say all Republicans were racist, that the Democrats are better on racial issues is obvious.
@whitemanwaydownsouth The racism of the tea party movement is well established, you're really out on a limb trying to argue that, but you seem to think racism doesn't exist AT ALL in your addled little "brain".
I haven't said, and in fact NOBODY has said everything they disagree with is racist, just as NOBODY said all disagreement with Obama is racist.
I'm not "racehustling" you son of a bitch. I'm fighting racism, and you're fighting for it.
@PrisonerNumber9653 you so fucking full of shit. plenty of people falsley accuse racism, and you keep doing it over and over, while denying it. fuck you, racehustling piece of shit. im sick of your bullshit.
@PrisonerNumber9653 you are like a child with fingers in your ears screaming" la la la la la i cant hear you !! la la la la everything i dont like is lies !! "
you have hte mentality of a 5th grader , grow up idiot.
@whitemanwaydownsouth Congratulations, you are the winner of the "Hypocrite of the month" award. One face says I'm refusing to listen, the other face pretends I've not given any evidence of your racism, when just 3 days back I gave a long list.
I am listening to what you say, vile as it is. It's racist trash.
And I have NEVER said anything is a lie because I don't like it. I call it a lie because it's a lie.
@PrisonerNumber9653 Yes they do have real jobs. They live off of others troubles, and nothing more. Do you think Jackson, or Sharpton give a shit about you, or any other Blacks? If not for the money, they wouldn't give you the time of day.
MLK? Self-avowed Communist, womanizer, and exit thesis plagiarist? That MLK?
Had Blacks followed B.T. Washington rather than W.E.B. DuBois, racism would have been relegated to the history books years ago. Snap out of it.
@Charonveritas More racist lies. They do NOT live off others' troubles, they work to try to REDUCE their troubles. First off, I know for a FACT civil rights leaders DO give a shit about other blacks. And by the way, IDIOT, I'm not black.
This is NOT just "for the money", they could make FAR more doing something else.
NO, asshole, MLK was NOT a self-avowed Communist, that was a despicable racist lie cooked up by scumbag Hoover. He WAS a socialist. Spare me your KKK lies.
@Charonveritas And you PROVE yourself to be pure Klan with your final despicable TRASH, this horseshit that blacks would be accepted as equals if only they'd "kept in their place" instead of fighting injustice is vomit. W.E.B. DuBois, like King, was a tremendous leader and blacks were and are wise to follow their path to justice, ALL people are wise to follow them.
So take your McCarthyite KKK bullshit and shove it right up your ass.
@PrisonerNumber9653 BT Washington espouses that blacks should earn their acceptance, while DuBois said they should "demand it". Which do you think will work better? Now you're just lying, and making shit up like some pre-schooler.
Farrakhan cares, LOL. Jackson, Sharpton, etc care (LOL)! Where do they live? Who do they associate with? You're argument amounts to saying Snoop-Dog knows about ghetto life, because he lives there. You're an idiot.
@whitemanwaydownsouth It's not brainwashing, it's education, and seeing as how you've yet to show ONE WORD I've said to be factually inaccurate, it's education you obviously badly need.
@Charonveritas Bullshit. We saw in West Virginia a company with literally HUNDREDS of violations of labor law, with NOTHING being done. Unions are the ONLY way workers can fight back when labor laws aren't enforced. And to get decent conditions and living wages, which are NOT guaranteed by law. It's the vilest of LIES to claim retirement programs, which the workers paid for MANY TIMES OVER with their LABOR are "theft".
What's driving our country to hell is your sick greed, not socialism.
@Charonveritas Socialist thought is driving our nation? Excuse me? There is exactly ONE Socialist in our entire federal government, Bernie Sanders (God bless him) We have two parties, the far right and the center right. There's NOTHING "leftist-socialist" going on in this nation, which is WHY we're going to hell. The obscene greed of today's "tea party" hard right is going to cause massive damage by refusing to raise the debt ceiling, a stunningly irresponsible move.
@charonveritas That's hilariously stupid. Obama ain't even a liberal and you're calling him "Mao"? Health care reform does NOT violate the constitution, union members ARE the people and unions are not "socialist".
You parrot the brainless lies of the hard right then claim those not sharing your ignorance are "drinking koolaid"? To damn funny.
@whitemanwaydownsouth I'm not a fool, and I see EXACTLY what this administration is trying to do. They're passing a pro-corporate health care "reform" with ZERO public option while seeing that single payer advocates are shut out of the discussion. They're giving the minimum support for working people and unions that any decent human being would give, while making sure he doesn't rankle Wall Street too much. It's idiotic to call Obama a liberal, much less "socialist". That's moronic.
@whitemanwaydownsouth Wow, are you real ignorant or just a serial liar. NO, moron, health care reform with NO PUBLIC OPTION is not socialist, a plan that lets you buy your way into destroying the planet is not destruction, there is NO favoritism shown to unions, and unions aren't socialist, either. You don't know what the word socialist means, and can't say whats wrong with it. This rancid red-baiting was the excuse for lynchings not so long ago. When will they ever learn?
@PrisonerNumber9653 obamacare, with its mandates for some ,free ride for others is destructive. a plan that lets you pay into destroying the enviornment IS destructive. unions are being shown favoritism, where the hell have you been, other than at the koolaid pitcher??and give up the race card you fucking race hustler, im sick of that bullshit.
@whitemanwaydownsouth Despicable horseshit. First off, sadly, there is NOT a "free ride" for anyone, although there damn well SHOULD be. NOT having health care access is destructive, the idea that it's "destructive" to help poor people see a doctor is vomit. Cap and Trade's a sell-out, we should have far MORE strong measures to reduce global warming, big business is destructive. And NO, idiot, unions are NOT being shown favoritism. Workers have RIGHTS, whether you like it or not.
@whitemanwaydownsouth Now given your rancid user name, it's no surprise to see you throw down with the KKK, you can shove your racism right up your ass, Adolph. There is no such thing as a "race card". It doesn't exist, racists MADE UP that grotesque term. There is no such THING as a "race hustler" asshole, it's a slimy, scummy insult to those like Dr. King fighting against racism. It's not a hustle, it's called "Justice", and it's what this nation stands for, whether you like it or not.
@whitemanwaydownsouth Short, sweet, and clever. One minor suggestion, please: linger a bit longer on the clips that have a fair amount of type to read. I had to freeze-frame a few times. Even so, fantastic work--thanks!
@Charonveritas And you're not playing with a full deck if you think ANYTHING Obama's said or done is "Socialism". It ain't even close.
The video's a load of shit, there's NOTHING unconstitutional about ONE THING Obama's done. The claim he's anywhere vaguely CLOSE to less transparent than Bush II is assinine.
Obama's not a great president, his weak-kneed cave-ins to the right over and over again are a real shame, he's not changed nearly enough. Another centrist DLC DINO.
@PrisonerNumber9653 obamacare is a socialist type program. cap and trade is a socialist programs, showing favoritism to unions is indicative of socialism. you are in denial, that is your prison
@whitemanwaydownsouth You're a moron. No, idiot, "Obamacare" isn't even vaguely CLOSE to socialist, unfortunately. Not even CLOSE. Not only is their ZERO public option, but those advocating for single payer, what we REALLY should have, were arrested for even attempting to speak at the hearing on the health care reform.
Unions are NOT "socialist" and there is NOTHING like "favoritism" being shown, just because illegal union bashing has slowed somewhat.
@whitemanwaydownsouth Wow, is that ignorant. NONE of those is remotely close to socialism. And no, unions are NOT being shown favoritism, union bashing's just slowed a little. You can't keep screwing the workers and expect them to take it lying down.
@PrisonerNumber9653 You're funny. The ObaMao Care is a direct violation of the 10th Amend., Unions are having their way with "We the People's" money which equates to Socialist tendencies, etc.
You Dumb-o-crats keep referring to Bush, when does it become ObaMao's presidency? He's been in office for 2.5 yrs now, and hasn't kept ANY of his promises.
@Charonveritas right...which explains why, on SEVERAL campuses, they tried to have a debate on this issue, but ended up with the event canceled. Why?
Because NOBODY could put a credible argument together pretending health care reform violated the constitution. It doesn't. At all.
Your brainless union bashing is truly vile. If YOU want to work 80 hours a week in unsafe conditions for slave wages, that's YOUR choice. We have decent hours and conditions, a little vacation, ALL because of unions.
@PrisonerNumber9653 campuses?LOL the issue is being debated in federal court, not on campuses , junior. campuses, for the most part are liberal breeding and brainwashing centers.campuses LOL!! 27 states are opposing obamacare, thats almost half of our 58 states. LOL
unions were ar one time necessary, but now just take money from employees and extort money from employers.
@whitemanwaydownsouth Ah, so you say nobody in law schools know about the law? Hilarious. This BULLSHIT of campuses being "liberal breeding grounds" is like the lie of "liberal media" every time a conservative does something illegal or stupid "Oh, it's the liberal media". NOBODY is "brainwashed" by getting an education, idiots like YOU are brainwashed by right wing hate radio. The states opposing health care reform are doing so to protect their corporate OWNERS of GOP politicians.
@whitemanwaydownsouth Unions are as necessary now as EVER, they don't "take" ANYTHING from ANYBODY. People pay dues because their workplace VOTED to unionize, and they get FAR more in return than they pay in. Calling anything they do "extortion" is flat-out bullshit. A direct lie.
That you've been brainwashed is proven by you laughing at the idea that you'd find people who know about the law in a law school. You think hate radio racists know MORE?
@PrisonerNumber9653 you are a poster-child for liberal brainwashing. unions are not crooked at all... the connection between unions and organized crime are pure coincidence
@whitemanwaydownsouth I'm not brainwashed, I'm educated. And big business has FAR more ties to organized labor, there is NOTHING crooked about workers defending their rights. NOTHING.
@PrisonerNumber9653 "In the beginning", Unions were a necessary entity to protect workers from dangerous, and un-savory working conditions. But, with current Fed'l and state "Labor Laws", they are unnecessary. Especially publicly funded Unions, that beneift management, and Union workers while the public pays (unfairly) for their benefits. They have to go, period.
I live in "the Right to work South", and we don't suffer your "fantasy" problems. Personally, I'd love to debate this on campus.
@Charonveritas What horseshit. Unions are EVERY BIT as necessary today as ever. There are miners DYING in unsafe mines and you claim everyone has safe working conditions. There is NOTHING unnecessary about unions, both because the laws aren't sufficient and because they ARE NOT BEING ENFORCED.
NO union is publicly funded. They are funded BY THE MEMBERS. There's NOTHING unfair about public servants being paid, that's IDIOCY.
"Right to work" is a fucking ripoff, outright theft.
@Charonveritas salaries are lower in RTW states for ALL workers, not just union members; protections are less, there's more sexism and racism, more violations of OSHA, and it gives union protection to people who refuse to pay dues. THE WORD FOR THAT IS THEFT.
@PrisonerNumber9653 The salaries in RTW states are based on the economy, not based on Union demands. Prices for goods in RTW states are also usually lower than in heavily influenced Union states.
"Racism, sexism, etc..., hyperbole. You face these things when you have bad management, and they can all be fixed through Labor Laws.
"it gives union protection to people who refuse to pay dues. THE WORD FOR THAT IS THEFT." Really? How so?
@Charonveritas "Based on the economy" meaning "as low as bosses can get away with", union demands don't set salaries, but DO increase them, which is a GOOD thing. There's no "hyperbole" in opposing bigotry, and the bosses do NOT follow labor laws, and nothing HAPPENS to them without organized labor. When non-union workers get fucked by bosses refusing to follow labor law, they have no recourse, no way to fight back.
@PrisonerNumber9653 "Unions increase salaries", yes they do. But, they artificially raise prices above the average, rather than letting market drive set a true value on items, and goods. This creates a downward spiral in the economy.
You are the moron that can't see truth due to a lack of a decent education...
@Charonveritas Horseshit. There's nothing "artificial" about it. Prices go up, the buying power of consumers goes up. All you want is to increase the profit margin for the corporation and screw the workers, which leaves the nation far worse off. It's NOT "downward spiral" when workers have more buying power, but like so many polluted with this disease, you think "the economy" means "how's Wall Street doing". "The economy" ALSO means the PEOPLE.
@Charonveritas Receiving a service and refusing to pay for it is theft, it's as plain as day. This so-called "right to work" which allows workers to receive the benefits of working for a union shop WITHOUT PAYING FOR THEM is stealing. "Right to Work" is a RIPOFF.
@PrisonerNumber9653 i live in north carolina, a right to work state, and all the yankees are moving here for trhe good jobs, dumbass.people looking to be offended will find sexism and racism everywhere they look, that is hte nature of the bitch. you are incorrect about almost everything you sau. i can tell you are young, and think you know everything, but you are not educated, just trained. you say there are no public funded unions,that is incorrect,teachers,cops,fire,usps, and many more.U sheep
@whitemanwaydownsouth Horseshit. Right to Work doesn't lead to good jobs, it leads to LOUSY jobs, it lowers pay, and increases unsafe working conditions.
This HORSESHIT of people "looking to be offended" is KKK trash. Nobody is "looking to be offended" but decent human beings DO and SHOULD get offended by racism and bigotry. You claim I'm "incorrect" but have YET to show one word I've said to be inaccurate.
I'm not young, I don't know everything but know far more than you do, I am not "trained"
@whitemanwaydownsouth Once again, racist shit like you thinks ONLY the rabid right "thinks for themselves". Parroting right wing hate radio isn't "educated" or "thinking for yourself".
It's a LIE to claim there are ANY publicly funded unions. Teachers unions are funded by PAYING DUES, not public money. Police unions are paid by PRIVATE MONEY FROM THE MEMBERS, not public money. There is no such thing as a "publicly funded union", you moron.
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@charonveritas and no, idiot, McCarthy was NOT right, he was a criminal and a fraud, the most unamerican worm ever to pollute this nation. He destroyed the lives of a lot of good, decent people with the sickest of lies. Capitalism is too immoral to stand on its own in an honest debate, this rancid lie that anyone who opposes inequality is "trying to destroy America" got innocent people killed, and the pigs STILL use lies and fraud to destroy freedom and lock people up for what they THINK.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
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@charonveritas You've proven again lying is the only way for you. I did not "admit" your sick trash. The rich are not "successful" and economic justice is NOT "PUNISHMENT."
It's as predictable as the sun setting in the west, scumbag racists will claim those fighting against racism are "racist", then prove themselves to be again with the vile lie of anyone being a "race hustler" a despicable KKK term that implies racism doesn't exist, you just think blacks make it up.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
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@charonveritas I don't make up jack. Nothing. You think civil rights leaders who risk their lives and dedicate themselves to justice and equality don't care? Just because racist shit like yourself doesn't care doesn't mean nobody does. You have an illness, a sickness, that decent people don't have. Yeah, racist lowlifes like you understand the ghetto better than the people who live there, all you understand is "blame the victim" and gutter politics.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
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@charonveritas- You can cram "ask politely can I please be treated like a human being?" right up your ass. The answer is a person stands up and fucking DEMANDS respect. The number of social justice gains in this nation's history acheived by asking nicely stands at zero. Ending slavery took a war, people bled and died to establish unions and the rights of workers, gays, women, NOBODY was given justice, they had to fight, and I will fight with them until I am cold and dead.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth we have the bullshit that whites face "discrimination" the hysterical lie that anyone says all criticism of Obama's policies is racist, your malarky claiming the democratic party is "racist", true revisionism of history, and this sick trash of claiming Obama was a natural born American, proven LONG ago and raised only because of his race and "foreign-sounding" name.
That's a lot of nasty racism, there's also the crap of the media being "liberal" that's just dumb.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 LOL you are all over the place. and seriously in denial, im not going to waste any more time trying to prove to you that the obvious exists.
whitemanwaydownsouth 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth All over the place? In denial? Show ONE WORD I've said to be untrue, Adolph.
You fall for lies, and when someone correctly points out these lies, you think THEY are in denial? Poor sap.
You asked for your racism to be pointed out, those are but a FEW examples proving that you are, indeed, posting very sick and very nasty racism.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Examples? The worst is the despicable lie that support racial justice are "anti-white culture." This crap that "people are looking to be offended and will find racism wherever they look", the vile terms "race card" and "race hustler" are sick lies, the total lie that there was "racism" behind there not being federal changes in the overblown nonsense of "New Black Panthers", this bunk the media made up tea party racism, more
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Sure, google that and find all sorts of right wing tools shilling for bosses and smearing working people. Sure there are labor laws, which are violated by bosses every chance they get (see dead miners in West Virginia) and which exist at all because of organized labor.
The problem is greedy corporations who think profit is more important than human beins, and fools like you who think these wage slaves can choose to quit because there are so many great jobs out there now.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 typical liberal tactic,try to make the exception the rule.like saying "rap music doesnt promote violence,criminal activity and irresponsible sexual conduct, havent you ever heard will smith's raps?" you give one example,one(1)uno. you are insane to assert that most private companies are incapable of honestly following labor laws, or are saying that employers taht are not union run are incapable of honestly following labor laws. which is it, or is it both? please clear this up
whitemanwaydownsouth 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth It's not a "tactic", it's a fact, and I didn't mention Will Fucking Smith. Even music that DOES talk about the reality of life in the inner city is not PROMOTING it.
It's the most naive of bullshit to claim private companies will follow labor laws out of the goodness of their heart, they have none. They exist solely to make profit, and will screw workers AND consumers as much as they can get away with every single time. THAT is why unions are needed, more are needed.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@charonveritas- Wow, to spread such ignorance and claim I'm not educated, that's a rare arrogance you got there. There's nothing remotely "artificial" about getting decent pay through collective bargaining, it increases the buying power of working people.
There are plenty of unions in rtw states, those workers have better pay and conditions and steal those benefits. EVERY government contract should either be with union workers or pay prevailing wage.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 YOU HAVE NO IDEA,you are just repeating what you are told. if this administration did not show favoritism to unions, why did they come down hard on boeing for opening a plant in south carolina? the fed tried to bully boeing into opening the plant in washington state instead. why do you fail to see the corruption?you obviously do not know much about govt contracting. the lowest bid has the job, UNLESS a minority owned company can get within 30% of the lowest bid
whitemanwaydownsouth 7 months ago
@prisoner9653 provided the lowest bid was submitted by a non-minority owned company.and before you try to'tell me how it is', save it. i deal with this everyday
whitemanwaydownsouth 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Lie, it's not "repeating what I'm told", it's knowing the FACTS. The administration does NOT show favoritism to unions, but isn't screwing them like the GOP had done. Boeing's attempt to get around labor laws SHOULD be criticized, it's not "bullying" it's the LAW. Corporations have been trying to bust unions and pay slave wages for over a century, and it violates common decency, and the law. There's nothing remotely "corrupt" about it, only Boeing is corrupt.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth And it should NOT merely be "the lowest bid", companies which fail to recognize the rights of workers shouldn't get government contracts, and Affirmative Action for minority-owned businesses is perfectly appropriate.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
Their is NO theft. Unions don't provide any protection in RTW states, and therefore there can not be any theft.
You're strictly using hyperbole in your failed argument. Boeing built a plant in S.C., and now the fed'l gov't wants to (block) force a private company to build planes in a Union state. How is that NOT extortion by definition? Unions, a legalized form of the Mafia...
Charonveritas 7 months ago
@Charonveritas Horsecrap. When corporations rake in billions off the sweat of the WORKERS and don't give them a decent salary or benefits or working conditions, that is theft. Being a so-called "private" company doesn't give you the right to violate labor laws. It's not "extortion", it's common decency. Unions have NOTHING in common with the mafia, your blind, sick loyalty to corporate greed is a big part of what's wrong with our country.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 LOL! people have a choice to find a job that suits them, if someone is unhappy at their job they are free to go elsewhere. violate labor laws?!? what the fuck are you talking about?plenty of people get benefits and there are regulations controlling working conditions. you are really brainwashed to believe that unions are the only way to have worthwhile employment. google the connection between organized crime and labor unions.you are sadly misinformed and easily misled. sad
whitemanwaydownsouth 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Bullshit. People are NOT free to find a job that suits them, there are MILLIONS working jobs that don't suit them in the LEAST because they are forced to by economics. You think people are "suited" to flip burgers all day long? To stack boxes in WalMart at 2 am for slave wages? They are NOT free to go anywhere else, we have MASSIVE unemployment, caused ON PURPOSE by corporate greed. There are barely adequate regulations, being IGNORED by companies and NEVER enforced.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth I'm not remotely misinformed, you've yet to show ONE WORD I've said to be untrue.
What idiocy, "Google this" Yeah, google it and find a whole bunch of other racist right wing LIARS saying the same trash.
Riddle me this--what sentence did the owner of Massey Energy, with HUNDREDS of labor law and safety violations, leading to MANY deaths, get for his crimes? How long did he go to jail for those murders??
Answer: Zero.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 whats wrong with our country are people like you think you should be overpaid and pampered at work, that is bullshit.
whitemanwaydownsouth 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth No, what's wrong with our country is racist scumbags like you who think it's "overpaid" to have a decent living, and "pampered" to not have your life threatened at work every day.
WORKERS ARE NOT CORPORATE PROPERTY, THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS.
You were right about one thing, every word you said is bullshit.
The only "pampered and overpaid" people are the BOSSES. And you want them to steal even more from the workers.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 you obviously have never been at work, oyu are talking about every privately owned company being unfair to workers and having unsafe work enviornment , but can only site two examples. people who have no skills or experience or education have to start somewhere,only a fool would expect otherwise. the massive unemployment has many causes, and greeed is one of them, but liberal policy plays a part. and if you are going to call me racist, give specific examples of my racism.
whitemanwaydownsouth 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 "Being a so-called "private" company doesn't give you the right to violate labor laws."-You. It's funny, I brought up that subject several posts ago. With current Labor Law, there is no real need for Unions. The "theft" occurs when the public has to support Union retirement programs, that Union members didn't pay for.
Your Leftist-Socialist thought is what's driving this country straight to Hell. Where is that wonderful Union leader Jimmy Hoffa at anyway? Mafia...?
Charonveritas 7 months ago
@Charonveritas can you believe the brainwashing this one has been through? it would take years to deprogram that
whitemanwaydownsouth 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth I think it's safe to say that deprogramming isn't an option with this one. It's in lock-step with Leftist-Socialist thought, and can't be swayed.
Unions were once necessary to protect the worker, but they've been perverted to feed off of those they would have protected. Unions are nothing more than organized crime syndicates with a license to operate, and since they offer support to an unjust POTUS, are protected themselves by the Fed'l Gov't.
We'll fix that in 2012.
Charonveritas 7 months ago
@Charonveritas yes we will, im hoping to get as many people i know to register and vote.
whitemanwaydownsouth 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth That's not what the right is about, the wealthy people and big business millionaires they stand for are already registered and voting, no, their tactic now is to PREVENT as many poor and black people from voting as possible, which is why the fraud that lead to the lynching of ACORN happened, and why racist "voter ID" laws happen, and the Jim Crow laws preventing felons from voting EVEN AFTER COMPLETING THEIR PUNISHMENT happen.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@Charonveritas There is no "programming" in common decency, it's the lies that promote the sick greed of capitalism being programmed.
Unions were NOT "once necessary", they are EVERY SINGLE BIT as necessary today, as rights people fought and died for DECADES ago are being stolen by scumbags like Walker in Wisconsin. It's the vilest of LIES to call workers "criminals" for standing up for their rights.
An "unjust president"? You can't even stand to have a centrist Democrat, he's "unjust"? Bull.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 Continue to "cry me a river..." You sound like you're afraid of a little hard work to me. I'd love to see you walk in my shoes when I cleared land, and cut "pulp wood" in SW Mississippi to prepare for football camp in the 70's.
And yes, "race-hustlers", and the "race card:" are used everyday. Al "Tawana Brawley" Sharpton, Jesse "spit in the Whiteman's food" Jackson, etc. are good examples. If it weren't for their racism, they'd have to get a real JOB. Real truth...
Charonveritas 6 months ago
@Charonveritas Still the vilest of lies. In fact the poorest Americans work far HARDER than the wealthy (and why are you talking about me? I'm not poor, you gotta get it through your head that just because you don't give a damn about anyone but yourself, not everyone is so selfish)
Spare me the hypocritical crap about how your greed is justified by the work you've done in the past. You know perfectly well most of the people you cleared land with are STILL dirt poor, not because they're "lazy"
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 The world needs ditch diggers too asshole. If you measure wealth through accumulation of money, you're a lost soul.
If, and that's a big "if" people become wealthy, why would they work harder? Maybe so their company can become larger, and oops! Maybe create more JOBS.
What do you do for a job?
Charonveritas 6 months ago
@Charonveritas Yes, the world DOES need ditch diggers, which is why they should be paid a living wage and should work in safe conditions and treated with the same dignity as white collar workers.
This BULLSHIT that people build wealth so they can "create more jobs" is as naive as it gets, they do so so THEY can enjoy more obscene luxury, they don't create jobs, and they only put out the opportunity for as FEW as they can get away with, and exploit those.
What I do is none of your damn business.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 So you admit you just want to PUNISH successful people then? See how easy that was to get off your chest?
YOU are a racist, and a race hustler yourself. You call people "Adolph", refer to my "KKK" teachings. You're a pathetic worm of a person. By the way, McCarthy was right in his beliefs.
Charonveritas 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 i cannot believe how out of touch with reality you are, really.
whitemanwaydownsouth 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Not in the slightest, which is why there's a vast emptiness where you MIGHT have provided some EVIDENCE that one word I'd said was untrue, were they in fact untrue.
You're out of touch with reality if you think the wealthy work harder than the poor. Not even close. This vile LIE that the poor are just "lazy" was fictionalized ages ago as a sick EXCUSE for the evil inequality of our society. It was a lie then, and always will be.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@Charonveritas "Race hustlers" and "race card" remain viciously racist terms. Yes, they're used every day, to insult and attack anyone who fights for equality. Were Martin Luther King alive today, you'd say exactly the same hateful things about him. Racism is not a game, and NOBODY "hustles" it or tries to "stir it up".
Calling civil rights leaders "racist" is the most racist of lies. Yes, they've said dumb things now and then, calling them "racist" is sick bullshit. They HAVE real jobs.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 LOL its wrong to point out race hustlers, but its ok for you and the other race hustlers to call racist anyone who has an opinion that differs from yours LOL@yourhypocrisy
whitemanwaydownsouth 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth You aren't "pointing out" shit, "Race hustlers" is a vile, racist LIE.
It remains BULLSHIT to say "you call racist anyone who has an opinion that differs from you." A pure 100% LIE. There are COUNTLESS people I encounter EVERY DAY who have opinions that differ from mine who aren't racist.
You aren't one of them. Your racism's been established, you asked where was it, I pointed out so many examples I couldn't fit them into a single post, and skipped a few.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 so, from what i can tell, you are calling me racist because 1) i recognize the existence of race hustlers 2)because i think the naacp has more than equal rights in mind 3) because i dont think eric holder letting the new black panthers slide is a good idea4) because i call bullshit and ask you to prove the tea party is racist ? am i right? is this why you are calling me racist?i need to know where you are on this.
whitemanwaydownsouth 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth You don't "realize" anything. There's no such thing as "race hustlers," the NAACP does NOT have more than equal rights in mind, Eric Holder didn't bring FEDERAL CHARGES against the NBP because there was nowhere CLOSE to enough EVIDENCE to do so, and the PROOF that the tea party is racist has ALREADY been provided, from major events with racists as KEYNOTE SPEAKERS to their vile attacks on John Lewis and Emmanuel Cleaver to the sick racism of their attacks on NAACP.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Now, I've ALREADY laid out any NUMBER of very good reasons to confirm you are a racist, do you really need me to repeat them? You KNOW you're a racist, that you can parrot the vile lies about Martin Luther King straight out of hate group propaganda then pretend to not be a racist is truly hypocrisy at a championship level.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 go back and read again you fucking cunt, i said mlk jr was a good leader and wanted equality,learn to comprehend who says what!! you are using your fucking opinions and presenting it as fact, fact is, you are giving bullshit examples. now give real examples of racism or shut the fuck up you pathetic fucking moron.you are incapable of making one single thought for yourself you sheep. you call everything you dont want to hear lies and are 1 of many race hustling pieces of shit!
whitemanwaydownsouth 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Yeah, I read your lies, AND comprehended them far better than you. Like so many racists, you PRETEND to respect MLK, while viciously attacking everything he believed in and stood for.
I present opinions as opinions and facts as facts. The FACT remains that MLK was an advocate of aggressive affirmative action, slavery reparations, organized labor and economic justice and redistribution. What of that do you agree with?
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Do you REALLY want all those examples laid out again? I gave real examples of racism from you.
This hilarious bullshit that I'm a "sheep" and don't think for myself is just rich. Yeah, I'm following the herd, there are SO MANY socialists and SO MANY anti-racism advocates in Oklahoma City, I'm just looking cool.
What an idiot you are.
There is no such thing as "race hustling," it's just another racist lie from you.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 everything you say is bullshit.
whitemanwaydownsouth 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Because you say so? Yeah, I used to that sort of cement-headed arrogance from racists, it's amazing how great you can feel about yourself when you don't have the burden of a conscience.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 no, cunt, cause everything yo say is bullshit. no job can have safe working conditions unless they are union, bullshit. no such thing as race hustlers, bullshit. replicans are racist, bullshit, the tea party is racist bullshit. everything yopu disagree with is racist, bullshit. you are just a racehustling bullshit peddler. fuck you asshole.
whitemanwaydownsouth 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth I didn't say no job but unions had safe conditions, I said unions were the reason we've got safer working conditions, without them we had people locked in firetraps, and without them we STILL have deathtraps. Unions DO create safer conditions.
There is no such thing as a "race hustler". NOBODY "hustles" racism, civil rights leaders OPPOSE it, racists like you slur them.
I didn't say all Republicans were racist, that the Democrats are better on racial issues is obvious.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth The racism of the tea party movement is well established, you're really out on a limb trying to argue that, but you seem to think racism doesn't exist AT ALL in your addled little "brain".
I haven't said, and in fact NOBODY has said everything they disagree with is racist, just as NOBODY said all disagreement with Obama is racist.
I'm not "racehustling" you son of a bitch. I'm fighting racism, and you're fighting for it.
And fuck you too, you piece of racist filth.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 you so fucking full of shit. plenty of people falsley accuse racism, and you keep doing it over and over, while denying it. fuck you, racehustling piece of shit. im sick of your bullshit.
whitemanwaydownsouth 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Where, exactly, did I say NOBODY makes false or overstated comments about racism? NOWHERE.
There's nobody HUSTLING race, and that you say I am PROVES you think ANY opposition to racism is "hustling".
I've NEVER done it. You asked for evidence, I gave it. You've ignored it.
you're sick of the truth. YOU ARE A RACIST. Your name confirms that you came here SOLELY to stir up racial hate and white supremacy.
Go burn a cross, stop pretending to be anything but a cheap thug.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 fuck you delusional race hustling piece of shit,
whitemanwaydownsouth 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth It took like hours to put that deeply intelligent and well thought out response together, didn't it, Bozo?
There's nothing "delusional" about seeing through your sick, racist lies.
And NOBODY is "race hustling."
I'd be glad to REPEAT the many examples of racism that were pointed out before, or do you want to just keep pretending they aren't there?
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 fuck you delusional race hustling piece of shit.
whitemanwaydownsouth 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 you are like a child with fingers in your ears screaming" la la la la la i cant hear you !! la la la la everything i dont like is lies !! "
you have hte mentality of a 5th grader , grow up idiot.
whitemanwaydownsouth 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Congratulations, you are the winner of the "Hypocrite of the month" award. One face says I'm refusing to listen, the other face pretends I've not given any evidence of your racism, when just 3 days back I gave a long list.
I am listening to what you say, vile as it is. It's racist trash.
And I have NEVER said anything is a lie because I don't like it. I call it a lie because it's a lie.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 Yes they do have real jobs. They live off of others troubles, and nothing more. Do you think Jackson, or Sharpton give a shit about you, or any other Blacks? If not for the money, they wouldn't give you the time of day.
MLK? Self-avowed Communist, womanizer, and exit thesis plagiarist? That MLK?
Had Blacks followed B.T. Washington rather than W.E.B. DuBois, racism would have been relegated to the history books years ago. Snap out of it.
Charonveritas 6 months ago
@Charonveritas More racist lies. They do NOT live off others' troubles, they work to try to REDUCE their troubles. First off, I know for a FACT civil rights leaders DO give a shit about other blacks. And by the way, IDIOT, I'm not black.
This is NOT just "for the money", they could make FAR more doing something else.
NO, asshole, MLK was NOT a self-avowed Communist, that was a despicable racist lie cooked up by scumbag Hoover. He WAS a socialist. Spare me your KKK lies.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@Charonveritas And you PROVE yourself to be pure Klan with your final despicable TRASH, this horseshit that blacks would be accepted as equals if only they'd "kept in their place" instead of fighting injustice is vomit. W.E.B. DuBois, like King, was a tremendous leader and blacks were and are wise to follow their path to justice, ALL people are wise to follow them.
So take your McCarthyite KKK bullshit and shove it right up your ass.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 BT Washington espouses that blacks should earn their acceptance, while DuBois said they should "demand it". Which do you think will work better? Now you're just lying, and making shit up like some pre-schooler.
Farrakhan cares, LOL. Jackson, Sharpton, etc care (LOL)! Where do they live? Who do they associate with? You're argument amounts to saying Snoop-Dog knows about ghetto life, because he lives there. You're an idiot.
Charonveritas 6 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth It's not brainwashing, it's education, and seeing as how you've yet to show ONE WORD I've said to be factually inaccurate, it's education you obviously badly need.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@Charonveritas Bullshit. We saw in West Virginia a company with literally HUNDREDS of violations of labor law, with NOTHING being done. Unions are the ONLY way workers can fight back when labor laws aren't enforced. And to get decent conditions and living wages, which are NOT guaranteed by law. It's the vilest of LIES to claim retirement programs, which the workers paid for MANY TIMES OVER with their LABOR are "theft".
What's driving our country to hell is your sick greed, not socialism.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@Charonveritas Socialist thought is driving our nation? Excuse me? There is exactly ONE Socialist in our entire federal government, Bernie Sanders (God bless him) We have two parties, the far right and the center right. There's NOTHING "leftist-socialist" going on in this nation, which is WHY we're going to hell. The obscene greed of today's "tea party" hard right is going to cause massive damage by refusing to raise the debt ceiling, a stunningly irresponsible move.
PrisonerNumber9653 6 months ago
@charonveritas That's hilariously stupid. Obama ain't even a liberal and you're calling him "Mao"? Health care reform does NOT violate the constitution, union members ARE the people and unions are not "socialist".
You parrot the brainless lies of the hard right then claim those not sharing your ignorance are "drinking koolaid"? To damn funny.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 you are a fool to not see what this administration is trying to do.
whitemanwaydownsouth 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth I'm not a fool, and I see EXACTLY what this administration is trying to do. They're passing a pro-corporate health care "reform" with ZERO public option while seeing that single payer advocates are shut out of the discussion. They're giving the minimum support for working people and unions that any decent human being would give, while making sure he doesn't rankle Wall Street too much. It's idiotic to call Obama a liberal, much less "socialist". That's moronic.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Wow, are you real ignorant or just a serial liar. NO, moron, health care reform with NO PUBLIC OPTION is not socialist, a plan that lets you buy your way into destroying the planet is not destruction, there is NO favoritism shown to unions, and unions aren't socialist, either. You don't know what the word socialist means, and can't say whats wrong with it. This rancid red-baiting was the excuse for lynchings not so long ago. When will they ever learn?
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 obamacare, with its mandates for some ,free ride for others is destructive. a plan that lets you pay into destroying the enviornment IS destructive. unions are being shown favoritism, where the hell have you been, other than at the koolaid pitcher??and give up the race card you fucking race hustler, im sick of that bullshit.
whitemanwaydownsouth 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Despicable horseshit. First off, sadly, there is NOT a "free ride" for anyone, although there damn well SHOULD be. NOT having health care access is destructive, the idea that it's "destructive" to help poor people see a doctor is vomit. Cap and Trade's a sell-out, we should have far MORE strong measures to reduce global warming, big business is destructive. And NO, idiot, unions are NOT being shown favoritism. Workers have RIGHTS, whether you like it or not.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Now given your rancid user name, it's no surprise to see you throw down with the KKK, you can shove your racism right up your ass, Adolph. There is no such thing as a "race card". It doesn't exist, racists MADE UP that grotesque term. There is no such THING as a "race hustler" asshole, it's a slimy, scummy insult to those like Dr. King fighting against racism. It's not a hustle, it's called "Justice", and it's what this nation stands for, whether you like it or not.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
Excellent, and to the point.
Obama just didn't say he was "Hoping" to "Change" the country to Socialism.
Charonveritas 10 months ago
@Charonveritas i was thinking short and sweet, like a tv commercial, my video making skills are green, but i will hopefully get better
whitemanwaydownsouth 10 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Short, sweet, and clever. One minor suggestion, please: linger a bit longer on the clips that have a fair amount of type to read. I had to freeze-frame a few times. Even so, fantastic work--thanks!
JuliaB1955 10 months ago
@JuliaB1955 thank you. im new at videos, so i need all the suggestions i can get. 8)
whitemanwaydownsouth 10 months ago
@Charonveritas And you're not playing with a full deck if you think ANYTHING Obama's said or done is "Socialism". It ain't even close.
The video's a load of shit, there's NOTHING unconstitutional about ONE THING Obama's done. The claim he's anywhere vaguely CLOSE to less transparent than Bush II is assinine.
Obama's not a great president, his weak-kneed cave-ins to the right over and over again are a real shame, he's not changed nearly enough. Another centrist DLC DINO.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 obamacare is a socialist type program. cap and trade is a socialist programs, showing favoritism to unions is indicative of socialism. you are in denial, that is your prison
whitemanwaydownsouth 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth You're a moron. No, idiot, "Obamacare" isn't even vaguely CLOSE to socialist, unfortunately. Not even CLOSE. Not only is their ZERO public option, but those advocating for single payer, what we REALLY should have, were arrested for even attempting to speak at the hearing on the health care reform.
Unions are NOT "socialist" and there is NOTHING like "favoritism" being shown, just because illegal union bashing has slowed somewhat.
I'm in no prison, jackass.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Wow, is that ignorant. NONE of those is remotely close to socialism. And no, unions are NOT being shown favoritism, union bashing's just slowed a little. You can't keep screwing the workers and expect them to take it lying down.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 You're funny. The ObaMao Care is a direct violation of the 10th Amend., Unions are having their way with "We the People's" money which equates to Socialist tendencies, etc.
You Dumb-o-crats keep referring to Bush, when does it become ObaMao's presidency? He's been in office for 2.5 yrs now, and hasn't kept ANY of his promises.
Keep on drinking the kool-aid...
Charonveritas 7 months ago
@Charonveritas right...which explains why, on SEVERAL campuses, they tried to have a debate on this issue, but ended up with the event canceled. Why?
Because NOBODY could put a credible argument together pretending health care reform violated the constitution. It doesn't. At all.
Your brainless union bashing is truly vile. If YOU want to work 80 hours a week in unsafe conditions for slave wages, that's YOUR choice. We have decent hours and conditions, a little vacation, ALL because of unions.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 campuses?LOL the issue is being debated in federal court, not on campuses , junior. campuses, for the most part are liberal breeding and brainwashing centers.campuses LOL!! 27 states are opposing obamacare, thats almost half of our 58 states. LOL
unions were ar one time necessary, but now just take money from employees and extort money from employers.
campuses !!HA ha ha ha ha !! you so crazy!!
whitemanwaydownsouth 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Ah, so you say nobody in law schools know about the law? Hilarious. This BULLSHIT of campuses being "liberal breeding grounds" is like the lie of "liberal media" every time a conservative does something illegal or stupid "Oh, it's the liberal media". NOBODY is "brainwashed" by getting an education, idiots like YOU are brainwashed by right wing hate radio. The states opposing health care reform are doing so to protect their corporate OWNERS of GOP politicians.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Unions are as necessary now as EVER, they don't "take" ANYTHING from ANYBODY. People pay dues because their workplace VOTED to unionize, and they get FAR more in return than they pay in. Calling anything they do "extortion" is flat-out bullshit. A direct lie.
That you've been brainwashed is proven by you laughing at the idea that you'd find people who know about the law in a law school. You think hate radio racists know MORE?
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 you are a poster-child for liberal brainwashing. unions are not crooked at all... the connection between unions and organized crime are pure coincidence
whitemanwaydownsouth 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth I'm not brainwashed, I'm educated. And big business has FAR more ties to organized labor, there is NOTHING crooked about workers defending their rights. NOTHING.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 tell me, do you consider yourself a socialist or a communist? just wondering, really
whitemanwaydownsouth 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth A socialist, not a communist. At least you're one of the rare radical right nutjobs who gets that there is a difference.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 "In the beginning", Unions were a necessary entity to protect workers from dangerous, and un-savory working conditions. But, with current Fed'l and state "Labor Laws", they are unnecessary. Especially publicly funded Unions, that beneift management, and Union workers while the public pays (unfairly) for their benefits. They have to go, period.
I live in "the Right to work South", and we don't suffer your "fantasy" problems. Personally, I'd love to debate this on campus.
Charonveritas 7 months ago
@Charonveritas What horseshit. Unions are EVERY BIT as necessary today as ever. There are miners DYING in unsafe mines and you claim everyone has safe working conditions. There is NOTHING unnecessary about unions, both because the laws aren't sufficient and because they ARE NOT BEING ENFORCED.
NO union is publicly funded. They are funded BY THE MEMBERS. There's NOTHING unfair about public servants being paid, that's IDIOCY.
"Right to work" is a fucking ripoff, outright theft.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@Charonveritas salaries are lower in RTW states for ALL workers, not just union members; protections are less, there's more sexism and racism, more violations of OSHA, and it gives union protection to people who refuse to pay dues. THE WORD FOR THAT IS THEFT.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 The salaries in RTW states are based on the economy, not based on Union demands. Prices for goods in RTW states are also usually lower than in heavily influenced Union states.
"Racism, sexism, etc..., hyperbole. You face these things when you have bad management, and they can all be fixed through Labor Laws.
"it gives union protection to people who refuse to pay dues. THE WORD FOR THAT IS THEFT." Really? How so?
Charonveritas 7 months ago
@Charonveritas "Based on the economy" meaning "as low as bosses can get away with", union demands don't set salaries, but DO increase them, which is a GOOD thing. There's no "hyperbole" in opposing bigotry, and the bosses do NOT follow labor laws, and nothing HAPPENS to them without organized labor. When non-union workers get fucked by bosses refusing to follow labor law, they have no recourse, no way to fight back.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 "Unions increase salaries", yes they do. But, they artificially raise prices above the average, rather than letting market drive set a true value on items, and goods. This creates a downward spiral in the economy.
You are the moron that can't see truth due to a lack of a decent education...
Charonveritas 7 months ago
@Charonveritas Horseshit. There's nothing "artificial" about it. Prices go up, the buying power of consumers goes up. All you want is to increase the profit margin for the corporation and screw the workers, which leaves the nation far worse off. It's NOT "downward spiral" when workers have more buying power, but like so many polluted with this disease, you think "the economy" means "how's Wall Street doing". "The economy" ALSO means the PEOPLE.
I see truth just fine, and see through your bunk.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@Charonveritas Receiving a service and refusing to pay for it is theft, it's as plain as day. This so-called "right to work" which allows workers to receive the benefits of working for a union shop WITHOUT PAYING FOR THEM is stealing. "Right to Work" is a RIPOFF.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 i live in north carolina, a right to work state, and all the yankees are moving here for trhe good jobs, dumbass.people looking to be offended will find sexism and racism everywhere they look, that is hte nature of the bitch. you are incorrect about almost everything you sau. i can tell you are young, and think you know everything, but you are not educated, just trained. you say there are no public funded unions,that is incorrect,teachers,cops,fire,usps, and many more.U sheep
whitemanwaydownsouth 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Horseshit. Right to Work doesn't lead to good jobs, it leads to LOUSY jobs, it lowers pay, and increases unsafe working conditions.
This HORSESHIT of people "looking to be offended" is KKK trash. Nobody is "looking to be offended" but decent human beings DO and SHOULD get offended by racism and bigotry. You claim I'm "incorrect" but have YET to show one word I've said to be inaccurate.
I'm not young, I don't know everything but know far more than you do, I am not "trained"
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
@whitemanwaydownsouth Once again, racist shit like you thinks ONLY the rabid right "thinks for themselves". Parroting right wing hate radio isn't "educated" or "thinking for yourself".
It's a LIE to claim there are ANY publicly funded unions. Teachers unions are funded by PAYING DUES, not public money. Police unions are paid by PRIVATE MONEY FROM THE MEMBERS, not public money. There is no such thing as a "publicly funded union", you moron.
PrisonerNumber9653 7 months ago
Obama is delierately trying to destablize the US. Its all part of the NWO plan, of which he is a huge part of.
astrolifter 10 months ago
@astrolifter it certainly seems like he is trying to destroy America
whitemanwaydownsouth 10 months ago
@astrolifter
Right on.....all done on purpose including using the supercomputers to set off those deadly computers in North Carolina.
GaGirlie777 10 months ago