"Disse: Ó filho do diabo, cheio de todo o engano e de toda a malícia, inimigo de toda a justiça, não cessarás de perturbar os retos caminhos do Senhor?" (Atos 13 : 10)
Folks, the fact remains that Rev Moon is the Lord of the Second Advent. Those who see in him a bad guy, are to be pitied. One day they will regret their own ignorance. Go ahead and study reverendsunmyungmoon. org and you will get the first bit of enlightenment.
I am so happy that so many leaders from all over the world are recognizing how much Father Moon has worked behind the scenes to promote interreligious dialogue.
When Satan comes to earth in a visible body he will be glorious, impressive, attractive and charismatic.
People will recognize that he is stronger and more majestic than a mere human being. People will be convinced by their senses that Satan is God. The book of Revelation calls him the beast.
The beast will speak in a melodious voice and he will have friendly, loving eyes. He will be gentle and kind. His appearance will dazzle and charm people. He will be extremely powerful.
hmm... I don't remember reading that in the Bible. Seems a bit made up. On the other hand, I do remember a wise man saying "A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand" when he was accused of casting out demons in the name of Beelzebub. A man teaching about God cannot be working for Satan. That's what the verse is trying to teach people, but most Christians miss that.
Reverend Moon's teachings are far more complete then that of Jesus, Rev. Moon uses Science in the Divine Principal.
Religion and Science go hand in hand. It is too obvious that God exists.
The universe expands so we can tell that it must have started at a point, the big bang. The big bang theory suggests that all matter was created in an explosion of energy. But the basis of matter, suggests that matter cannot be created or destroyed. So where did this energy come from? God!
Rev. Moon is the prophetic figure written of in Luke and Matthew as the Faithful and Wise Stewrad; the "meat in due season" he brought was the Divine Principle; and his position was that of Joseph over the House of Egypt; and this world as over Satan; his Destiny was to reach the position of the Messiah if he passed the final test; and his Fate is to be cut asunder" and suffer the death of John the Baptist if he doesn't; this is situation; as I document in my book the Revelation of Salvation.
@bcn001 Quantum theory suggests that around the 11nth dimension, imagination is reality, which we refer to as "The Spirit World". God is a "Spiritual Being". He exists in a higher dimension. Therefore God is timeless and eternal, which would suggest, that he was always there.
The idea of God alone, suggests that everything was created from him. Which is parallel to big bang theory.
@saijeehiguchi Quantum theory does not suggest the existence of a spiritual being and it neither suggests the existence of a "spirit world". I think you should talk with a phycisist so that he can explain to you what the current state of physics theories are.
@saijeehiguchi But you are not proving anything. Your explanations are just wishful thinking. I could also claim that quantum theory "suggests" whatever I wish it to suggest. That is no proof of the existence of God. That is a misuse of mathematics and physics to maintain a belief system that lacks scientific basis.
Some people's religion is to not BELIEVE in God. Its just a blind believe. They have no way to prove the non existence of God. Nobody has ever proven it. Thats because it CANNOT be proven.
To only believe in coincidence requires the denial of reason.
Clearly you are not very well read, but there are theories such as the multiverse theory...
i don't rememmber jesus ever discreditting the big bang theory....
And considering that rev. moon claims to best mates with jesus and they work hand in hand, as he is apparently the second messiah ( bullshite BTW), shouldn't you believe that moon is finishing jesus's work..
Odd that the bible says it is finished and says that false messiahs will come...
@downtownmcgee Multiverse actually is explained in our teachings, a lot of it has to do with the relationship between the physical and the spiritual world.
I never said Jesus discredited it either, but a bunch of hard core Christians do, stating that the universe is only a few thousand years old.
Who ever said that I don't believe that Reverend Moon has been finishing Jesus' work?
If Jesus was done, why would he say he would return. Not surprisingly, this is also explained in our teachings.
i realized that You will only see TRUE Christians base on their heart! Jesus once said, "what goes into the mouth does not defile a man, but comes out from the mouth which comes from the heart it defiles a man..." (Matthew 15:17-21). finish reading by yourself and you will know satan! let's check ourselves with prayer if we truly don't possess such kind of heart! dirty (evil) words comes from dirty (evil)heart! C'mon, try and together let's practice within ourselves to have a TRUE GODLY HEART!!!
well i am not deceived, for i never expect anyone to do good for me. but i just keep on trying to do good for others. and one thing more, jesus choose rev. moon. thats enough for me. PEACE:)
jesus did. but christianity never lesten. coz they are so blind with the thought that jesus would come from the clouds leteraly. and jesus himself would come personaly. it would be imposible to a 2000 year old dead man and whose body returned to dust. jesus revealed to 16 year old SUN MYOUNG MOON the secrets of heaven and ask him to contenue his mission
What a joke. Another religion formed to take peoples money for themselves. Do you all know Moon has been convicted and imprisioned several times and lived in exile for the crimes he committed?
he was convicted 6 times and suffered almost to his death. he endured the most brutal prisons. and the only crime he commited is SPREADING THE WORD OF GOD IN A COMMUNIST TERRETORY. so tell me you were rev. moon, would still continue even if the world is not worthy of you? even now at age of 90 he still continue his work. at 90, with his past suffering, its not easy to work for the world peace.
The man was convicted of tax evasion, extortion and and spent two years in prison for those crimes while living the life of an exile trying to avoid authorities for conviction of his crimes.
Religion doesn't need to be the orchestrator for world peace, displacing corrupt governments and replacing them with new ones will provide world peace while "preaching it."
we all know that its an unjust trial. and the poblem is not the corrupt governments, its the people who are so coward to step forward and live by True Love. people are too arrogant and ignorant
Is this trial just as unjust as the thousands of Priests who were convicted of molestation? Are priests exempt from any criminal prosecution because they are priests? That's an absurd standard.
Priests are some of the most corrupt individuals in society because they are blanketed by the governments who use their ideology and teachings to spread war, hate and destruction to countries and their citizens throughout the world.
not because you have undergo thru a trial you are guilty. and i am not saying that priest are exempted for any criminal prosecution. but the basis of the offens for rev. moon are purely political and self centered. they didnt recognize his big contributions in ending wars. and all political ententions to bring him down. but as you can see even at age of 90 he never give his faith and mission. TRUE LOVE IS THE KEY
based on history priests and religious leders have devieted from thier true mission (living for the sake of other) instead, they focused so much on how they could gain more power and money. thats why rev. moon was rejected by the religious leders. coz if they were to follow rev. moon, they will lose money and be neglected by those who cant understand them. thats is the main reason he was persecuted. by preaching the true way of peace he was repeatedly rejected by those coward individuals
Your reading the wrong history...priests never had a "true mission?" Priests took advantage of the ability to read and write, nothing more.
They formed their own special caste system where their "privileged" knowledge got them food, money and clothing....we see the same thing today, that is why they are the richest and most corrupt institution on the planet.
Now that people have the ability to read and write, just as priests, you see atheism grow worldwide...coincidence? I think not.
perhaps you never understand the true mission for each of us. you reasonate out of your imature heart. each creation has a true mission or reason for existence. it is to bring joy to others. to live for others. no one is excempted with that, not even the atheists. humanity doesnt have unity, thats why we suffer. HAVE A BIG HEART:)
I read the right history with my heart. preists are to be the image of jesus christ who live for the sake of others. but they never had a full grasp on the importance of thier possition, and took the advantage of the authority. preached erilivant teachings and addopted some cultures of pagans, rev. moon want to correct this wrong doings but he was rejected
What a statement from you to assume I have an immature heart? I live according to Frans de Waal's scientific findings that we are an instinctively moral species, therefore, we do not need religion to find a sense of right and wrong, it comes built in.
Jesus Christ's life is not documented outside the so called sacred text you call the bible, because he is a mythical figure created just as all the religious deities that came before him.
unification theology teaches that human beings had undergone a process called evolotion. but its just a process. what i mean is our present form did not happened by chance. but we are the master piece of GOD our ultimate creator. all things are created because of us, this is how GOD loves us, imagine many billions of years He waited for us to be finaly created and so that he could share His love for us, and yet we dont recognize Him. can you imagine the pain His suffering right now?
Listen, religion is loosing it's grip on the millions of people that donate cash every week...therefore, they are changing there ideologies to cover every aspect of science to continue control.
May I suggest you place a picture of yourself or some form of identity on your channel so that you may be taken seriously with your comments in the future.
well unification theology has never change its ideologies. will never change. cause first and foremost its unchanging. it has a full grasp on science and religion. idealy science and riligion should help each other to bring world peace. i dont mind if you dont take my comments seriously, any way its your loss
hahaha..... yeah!!!! just like you came from ape? you are right that we are an instinctively moral species. coz our creator is an instinctively moral being. and so his son jesus
the truth is we realy had undergone a process of what we commonly called evolotion. human beings, before we reach our present form had a huge resymblance of an ape. but APE is a name of specie and HUMAN BIENG is another
That's why we share 95% of our DNA with apes. Furthermore, we have 46 chromosomes while apes have 48, however, the missing two fused together.
Take a look yourself...each chromosome has a centromere in the center, and two telomeres on the ends. Chromosome #2 has telomeres in the middle and the only chromosome to have this unique feature...the evidence is overwhelming, yet you type here sharing your OWN interpretation of things while citing nothing?
your insisting that i dont believe in science, and that religion is false you dont realy read lot you know. as ive siad i have no problem with science. science explains my faith. and my faith keeps me reaching for higher standard. and keeps me loving you
Any logical person can't have science in one hand while holding religion in the other? All that does is say you have blind faith in a mythical deity while keeping science in your back pocket to use when individuals debunk your faith.
Once again, you know Jesus Christ is not documented in any other source other than sacred, manufactured scripture.
Earlier, you told me you believed in Frans de Waal's statement but you still insist you need religion to "love" people? If it comes built in (moral sentiment) than why do you need religion?
You need it because you live in fear of what awaits you in the "afterlife" when it simply does not exist in the form of "heaven" or "hell."
moral sentiment is belt in because the one who creatd us is a moral being, thatsa why i told you that i believed in frans de waal. but just like brain/mind it has to be develop and mature, science is a school for brain, religion is a school of morality. but sad to say imature heart and selfish motivations coused divisions and chaos. so both science and religion must stand and solve this problem
its all logical, and fair. you cant just have one of them. you must have both.Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. (Albert Einstein)
it's odd you claim Einstein in your quote when questioning someone else's beliefs?
Einstein has made many famous quotes in his lifetime, especially early in life when he was still religious. However, when he died, he was an atheist and wanted or belonged to no religion whatsoever.
I love how you quote an atheist to try and disprove one.
im sorry for my attitude friend. i know it sounds crazy but GOD'S existence has been proven countless of times. GOD iS real. for some they call him the universal prime energy, the Root of everything, jehovah, the suprime being, and for rev. Moon GOD is a FAther whose heart is bleeding for thousands of years watching His cheldren killing each other, and weather we know Him or not, He is in every good things that you have right now. He is invisible coz He is an Energy.
"each person has their OWN connection with the divine ..and each INDIVIDUAL chooses with their FREE WILL how they will communicate & in what form" that was before Adam and Eve committed the FALL. after the fall all bonds to God were cut off. God cant and the only way we communicate to Him is thru burning of offerings. so we need a middleman to reconcile God and His lost children. Thats why God send Jesus a purified/sinless human being
throughout the history, who is the man who had a pure heart and true love? no one but Christ. True love, absolute obedience, absolute faith, is the way to reconcile to GOD, and thats what rev. Moon's teaching is all about. if its as easy as that, then why did GOD waited for thousands of years in for us to go back to His dominion. suffering the pain of seeing his children killing each other
have you read 1 of his books? there are more than 400 of them. ill ask to read just one of them. then tell me his teaching has nothing to do with crist. and i believe rev. is the only man living on earth who really understand God and Jesus heart. and please read the content of my message first (about ape) before you comment. and if that still hurts you then im sorry, i never meant to. as you can see im still not perfect. but still trying.
have you read 1 of Rev. Moons Books? there are more than 400 of them. after you finished reading just 1 of them, tell me his teaching has nothing to do with christ. read the content of my message (about ape) first before you comment. and if that still hurts you then im so sorry if i said anything bad. i never meant to. as u can see, im still not perfect, but still trying. good nyt friend.
But Jesus was murdered on the cross so he promised to comeback. To complete his mission, but according to science its impossible for a 2000 yrs old dead man can go back to life with the same body, so he choose Rev. Moon, another purified Human being
now THAT is off the wall!!!.. rev. moon as an avatar of christ????? THAT is far out ! rev. moon is a narcissistic megalomaniac!!!!! ..IF YOU REMEMBER christ wore a crown of thorns .. rev, moon wears a crown of gold & has built an empire on top of the largest natural spring in the world !!!... christ preached POVERTY !!!!!!! REV' MOON IS A BILLIONAIRE !.. better to read the milenium indoctrination & global poverty act to see what rev' has in store for you . do your research PLEASE !!!!
its you who need to do more research. read the unification theology before you argue with me about it. christ preach to the poor people coz rich people neglect him. before he preach at the poor people he preached to the priest but the priest rejected him. so he had no choice but to look for poor people who would follow him coz those priests, prepared by God for thousands of years failed to follow him. and the worst is the very people of God murdered His son. read the bible again
however rev. find a way to convince the rich people to use their money in serving poor countries like Africa. I've done all my research and if the world turns to hell even if there is Rev. Moon, then its not because one man. but our individual responsibility to save the world. we members of unification members have the Biggest dream ever, it is BUILDING AND IDEAL WORLD OF PEACE. its up to you if you don't believe it but I'm speaking with my heart. any way not my loss
Christ never wanted to were that crown of thorns, it the people who dont believe in him who made him to. if you could just imagine the suffering Jesus had gone thru his crucifixion. but God has no choice but to let christ die on the cross so that in three day he could be resurrected. that crucifixion was the murder of a pure man. and its the biggest shame of mankind
well i dont blame you for having that on your mind. just trying to an honest man. and please start thinking about knowing the person first before you curse them. Hope you ancestor protect you always. And have a nice day
if its not too much for you, i would like you to read the book of unification thought. its the only way you could understand what im trying to say. some words are too hard for me explain to you. pls friend consider my request.
After the fall human being lost its dignity, position as children of God, and assumed the position of children of Satan. the most tragic situation is God lost his lineage. So He need to wait for thousand of yrs for a sinless man could regain the relationship that was lost thru the FALL. the purification was posible thru the eforts/sacrifies of Gods choosin people. the same pattern of history for jesus to be sent happend to rev. moon
Let me get this straight? Rev. Moon is or was going to be crucified? Religious nutbags never cease to amaze me? Let me explain something to you real quick. Moon would like you to think Satan exists...now whether you believe he does or not...take the readings of Justin Martyr and St. Augustine of Hippo when it comes to Satan. Don't take my word on it, take histories.
Religion, and now Rev. Moon has induced brain rot on your very existence. Such a shame you live life on such a limited scale.
NO! REV. MOON WILL NOT BE CRUCIFIED. we will die first before he will. rev. moon has a lot of members who understands his mission than the followers of jesus in his time. and what ever you thinking ar saying about him he is still the MESSIAH!!!
this is why fanatical Christians cannot be reasoned with, ever. You actually have allowed your diluted fantasies to overcome your reality.
Your so detached from yourself and your surroundings that you will believe in anything to make all the wrong in the world seem justified? WE are responsible for the wrong in this world, it's not a result of Satan.
Good luck in life relying on the lies of a religious institution.
Its just an expression of my loyalty to the will of goodness.And I never said that Satan is the only responsible for chaos of this world.Satan cant do it alone. Same as God cant do it alone. We are the deciding factor of what will this world become. And yes Im detached with this world of lies. what seems to be normal to you is not normal to me. Every chaotic scenario of the evil world is not normal.problem is not normal,Thats why its called problem.You should start thinking outside ur cocoon
well since it was just an expression allow me to school you. You admit we evolved from apes, truth is every instinct we have, whether it be sexual or instinctual mirrors that of apes. Furthermore, if you followed science a bit more, you would know and realize that 1% of the total population in the world must go crazy as a result of our own behavior and tendencies. It's proven scientific fact. Once again, stop using religion as a crutch and become a solution to fix the root of the problem
no. im using both science and religion. Every good things must be utilize to solve the ignorance and arrogance of of this world. and to tell you something new, i will reveal to the root cause of all the chaos of this miserable world. Its the elicit relationship of our first ancestors. The misuse of love is main root of our differences and all the wars of the world. In short immature spirit and heart.
So to solve it. We need to use the school of love and morality, the family, thats why rev. moon founded the FAMILY FEDERATION FOR WORLD PEACE. Religion is not enough to solve the problem. Same as science is not enough to solve it.
your problem is your using religion when you do need it to solve, answer or fix any of your problems. Religion is based on blind faith. Faith of a man (Jesus Christ) who never existed and is never documented outside of biblical text fabricated on myth. That is blind faith and so long as you continue to use it, you will continue to be clueless to your surroundings. Hey if you believe in fairy tales, then that's your thing, good luck with that.
Your problem is youre so unfair, close minded, cold hearted being. And resonate based on selfish arguments. Dont alienate your self with the rest of the world. Start using your heart in seeing things
and your problem is you assume to know me, or who I am? Kinda like you think an invisible guy exists up in the clouds watching over you who has reincarnated into Rev. Moon? Right, I really sound like the close minded one. Whatever makes you happy buddy, keep on living in your fantasy world.
Once again, quit dodging the question I continue to ask. You as a follower of Jesus Christ should already know that he is never accounted for outside of a biblical text. You worship a man who never existed
Furthermore, you assume that because I don't have religion I cannot be compassionate? Truth is, I think with my head and my heart, where you demonstrate to think only with your heart. Do see the problem with that?
no i dont assume that because I don't have religion I cannot be compassionate? i just want to have a one GLOBAL FANILY UNDRED ONE CRETAOR. AND WORLD PEACE!!!!!
my point exactly, now your assuming I don't want the world to co-exist? If you looked at my You Tube channel, co-existing is pasted all over my channel and in my comments? You want this existence of world unity under a creator, the problem is there is no creator?
Furthermore, the Quran is a holy text in another language. I said a reference from a NON-BIBLICAL source.
I'm not angry, I'm just trying to wake you up to reality. Sorry if it has to come across as such.
the man that you refering to is a hoily man. so every texts of books that has to do with him is considered holy. how can you speak about coexistence when are denying the existence of the creator? if therwe is no creator then why do we exist? creator means the initiator of creation. the very breath you are taking right now comes from Him. as you continue to study science, you will come prove that the universe could not exist by its own, you will observe the order of life and its purpose
we exist because of science and the evolution of every creature on this planet. Fusion of elements created energy and thus concluded with the big bang. We humans share DNA with the simplest of life forms, to include micro organisms. The medulla oblongata, the part of the brain found in every human is a reptilian brain. It is not special or unique. It only goes to show how common we are with every living organism on this planet.
to every living organism on this planet. In Genesis, god stated that man was made in his image unlike any other creature on this planet. If this statement is true, then we should be unlike any other organism found on this planet, not share common genetics with them?
. If you really want to know what Im trying to say we should have the same ground. Science is to explain religion and religion is to explain science and vice versa.
wow are you lost. My friend john hart will chew you up with hard core facts. I can as well. Religion is all bullshit. All the bibles are as well. I care not what religion you look to. I will also point out science atleast real factual science supports a god idea zero % of the time. People are indocterned into religion at a young age it's one giant cult. Then you grow up and move from one cult branch to another muslim jew ect but you never leave the cult for all religions worship the sun.
if god is all powerful then you would have to agree he can see into the future. if he can see into the future then our actions are predetermined. therefor "free will" is already in the garbage.
God cannot see the future, because the future does not exist, nor does the past(but it had existed). You can't see something that doesn't exist, only imagine.
If God could see the future, and created everything, that would say that God Created the future, as if writing a book, but this cannot be, or he would never have cried for seeing man suffer, because that would mean he meant it to be that way. Why would someone cry over watching people suffer, if that person made it that way intentionally?
"it's odd you claim Einstein in your quote when questioning someone else's beliefs?"
sorry but i just wanna ask one last question, what do you believe? perhaps its you who questions some one elses beliefs coz you dont believe in it. and please keep it in mind. even if i die now, REV. MOON IS A TRUE MAN, and your nothing compared to him. you dont even know him so you dont have the right to tell me who he is. GOT IT? PRETENDER!!!
I believe in science. I don't believe in an invisible man hanging around in the sky watching over us, nor do I believe in a man named Jesus Christ who is never documented in history to have existed. Furthermore, I don't believe that a convicted criminal, such as Rev. Moon should be the head of any organization, let alone a religious one.
Instead of being a follower the rest of your life, perhaps you should learn to lead?
i am leader, i lead young people and show them how to live for others and not destroy others. i am a 1st degree black belt, and a Father. and most importantly i consider my self a HUMAN BEING AND NOT AN APE. i understand science and its purpose. even thu sometimes i made mistakes i never stop love others. GOD BLESS YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR APE LIFE
Who said I considered myself an ape? I'm a human whose ancestors evolved from apes? I recommend you read "good natured" by Frans de Waal, it may show you just how common we are to apes. We share 96% of our DNA and the only difference is the amount of chromosomes we have, however, Dr. Keith Miller shows how chromosome #2 fused with #4. In the end, the evidence speaks for itself.
Your a follower of a convicted criminal and religion. You don't need either of these things to be successful in life.
and how many time do i have to tell you that i do believe that for one stage of evelotion we looked like ape. dont lecture me about science like i dont know it. and who are you to tell me what i need? its you who ont read my messages. you know too litle
AND IF YOU DONT CONSIDER YOUR SELF AS AN APE THEN WHY ARE O EAGER TO TELL ME THAT WE CAME FROM APE WHEN I KNOW IT ALREADY? and why do you care so much to dissuade someone about thier beliefs when you dont even listen to them. PRETENDER!!!!!
"AND IF YOU DONT CONSIDER YOUR SELF AS AN APE THEN WHY ARE O EAGER TO TELL ME THAT WE CAME FROM APE WHEN I KNOW IT ALREADY?"
Didn't you just admit to me we evolved from an ape? Why do you ask if I consider myself human or ape? Then try to ridicule me when I say ape? I'm glad to know your an ape as well, or at least evolved from one, perhaps, we can move on with this conversation now that we have established our existence.
The theory of evolution tells us that we came from ape. Thats right. We CAME from the same image of an APE. in our process of evolution to become a HUMAN BEING. APE IS A NAME OF SPECIE, HUMAN BEING IS ANOTHER After all; the universe, according to science was formed by fission of gas like hydrogen. And due to our location on our solar system that gave the earth a chance to sustain life. THANKS FOR THE YOUR TIME BROTHER
ps - please consider that not all of us fall in such 'scripted' categories of belief ...
gorilla vs. your way of belief ..
there are myriad other forms of divinity & love than are in your small tight 'categorized' world .. ...
as many individual's exist on this grand earth , so there are so many different forms of thought , logic , expression ... rev' moon or whoever else claiming to be the 'one who knows' cannot come close to an individual who lives by concience & free will ...
if reverend sun yun moon has a 2nd family then he would received the 2nd family blessing. I attend the seminar for 4 days and I found out his intensions and the divine principle are good.
Those people who persecuted our church are people who just hear our church. But dont know anything about it. We are following Rev. Moons teaching not for our own sake and satisfaction, but to live for others. Can you understand what Im saying? We dont want others to do some good for us, but we are here to do good for others. Following the examples of our founder, devoting our live to attain perfection in individual level, family level, society, and then creating an ideal world.
we preach the good news but we are not claiming that we absolutly can follow what is Gods Will. thats why there is the word TRY. ITS NOT HOW BAD YOU ARE, BUT ITS HARD YOU ARE TRYING TO GOOD.
you preach the good news? my dear friend, don`t you know this so-called good news turned out to be hell for a lot of people! because the good news and the so-called unchangeable thruth changed arbitrary! and because they believed in this "good news" - until they recognized they were deceived, badly deceived. they were used and misused as long they could be used and misused. Know what? Your great messiah, Rev. Moon cares a shit about people like me! there is no place to tell you all what happend.
Yes the teaching of rev. Moon is quite deferent and hard to comprehend. He is pushing his member to the limit and sometimes give directions that we sometimes misunderstand. Bur if we look at in a distance we realize its for us to grow. I have done almost all the activities in the church like fund raising, food raising and witnessing. 5 of my brothers and sisters are leaders of the church
WE DONT EXPECT THE CHURCH WOULD DO SOMETHING FOR US, the church in reality is living for the sake of the world. So if you dont live for the sake of the world you are not really a member.
we have global peace festivals here in phillipines, specially in mindanao (an island were muslims and christians have constanr war) we invite muslim and christn leders to talk about the best sulotion of these kind of problems. and to say no to violence. we want to live in a world were people love each other and not kill each other. lets not be arrogant on this mattr
in this festival we have sevice for peace (feeding program, cleaning of public places, etc.) youth conference (a conference for youth to teach them the right way of leadership and living for others and lots of good things) religious conference were imams, priests, pastors join together to creat peace. AND LOTS OF GOOD STUFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so tell me what is an irrelevant festival? please do some reserach first. and most importantly have a BIG HEART.
I am deeply sorry for members who really EXPECT that the church could give them what they want. The church has countless members with the same problems. But you see, it depends on our motivations/interest and level of heart to live for others. Some leaders are too arrogant and ignorant to use the church for their sake. And members judge the church for the wrong act of one leader. I too have disappointments on our local leaders, but if linger too long on this feeling satan will claim you
NO people kills people. arogant religions kills ignorant religions and vice versa, same as unbeliever kills the believer. its the reality of this world of arrogance and ignorance. WAKE UP!!!!!
dont welcome me coz dont wanna be in hell. thats why we wanna build the kingdome of ideal, peacefull world. were both of can be friends. just accept the fact that we are one family under one creator
ok so if this aint hell it surely not heavnz paradise aswell look around u theres nothing but killing in this place ill tell u sumting i use 2 believe in jesus i alwayz ask out for jesus in troubles but i figured it was another santa clause thing so i started losing faith i forgotten the bible and i only trust my self in this world the bible didnt feed my family i had to learn the hard way brother
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"Disse: Ó filho do diabo, cheio de todo o engano e de toda a malícia, inimigo de toda a justiça, não cessarás de perturbar os retos caminhos do Senhor?" (Atos 13 : 10)
asdfgh34277 1 month ago
This like CARP is a front group for the CULT of the Moonies.
Verbaleyezpr 1 year ago
Folks, the fact remains that Rev Moon is the Lord of the Second Advent. Those who see in him a bad guy, are to be pitied. One day they will regret their own ignorance. Go ahead and study reverendsunmyungmoon. org and you will get the first bit of enlightenment.
brunoklotz 1 year ago
Rev. Sun Myung Moon is the Second Coming of Christ!
nkulu3 1 year ago
@nkulu3 Rev. Moon is a criminal and should go back to jail where he belongs. And the Moon organisation is a dangerous destructive cult.
bcn001 1 year ago
Thank you for putting this very powerful video together!
ubckfc 1 year ago
Next is that they recognize that he is the Saviour, the Messiah.
brunoklotz 1 year ago
I am so happy that so many leaders from all over the world are recognizing how much Father Moon has worked behind the scenes to promote interreligious dialogue.
bkarnowski1 2 years ago 2
I love moon
elperugrande1954 2 years ago
Well, Rev Moon is in good company. Jesus also did not get many prizes.
Rev Moon indeed deserves the peace prize!
Hope those Norwegians will do something about it!
brunoklotz 2 years ago
@brunoklotz He does not deserve any peace prize. He deserves to go to jail. All he wants is power in order to establish a fascist theocracy!
bcn001 1 year ago
@brunoklotz How can you say he deserves the peace prize when he owns a gun factory????
bcn001 1 year ago
Rev.Moon's teaching's and blessing opened the way so that I have a beautiful family.
bkarnowski1 2 years ago
And those Norwegians gave their little peace prize to who?
grangeender1 2 years ago
Glory to Rev. Moon!!!!!!
Lord of the second advent....
to those who persecute him,,,,,
open your mind and heart
the savior has come.......
tongilgyeohe2013 2 years ago
Rev. moon as the second advent will bring the world to shame.
Sellahamachi 2 years ago
Reverend Moon likey fucky fucky!
dakotagerman1 2 years ago
God Bless Rev. Moon.
heavenlysoldiers 2 years ago
im born a moonie, and i'd say that im getting a lot of good out of it. i'd rather this than being born a catholic anyday
only thing that bothers me is the money
GimmeDatSheep 2 years ago
When Satan comes to earth in a visible body he will be glorious, impressive, attractive and charismatic.
People will recognize that he is stronger and more majestic than a mere human being. People will be convinced by their senses that Satan is God. The book of Revelation calls him the beast.
The beast will speak in a melodious voice and he will have friendly, loving eyes. He will be gentle and kind. His appearance will dazzle and charm people. He will be extremely powerful.
casket10 2 years ago
hmm... I don't remember reading that in the Bible. Seems a bit made up. On the other hand, I do remember a wise man saying "A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand" when he was accused of casting out demons in the name of Beelzebub. A man teaching about God cannot be working for Satan. That's what the verse is trying to teach people, but most Christians miss that.
Loew01 2 years ago
Really nice video! Ppl for Peace! Ppl for a change!!
jcyholdhus 2 years ago
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MANY ppl that despises him is going to regret it becuz when u pass away you'll wish u didn't reject him.
PLUS this is just like jesus' time NO ONE BELIEVED IN HIM!! then now ppl r like ohh no why didn't we follow JESUS!!
ONE FAMILY UNDER GODDDD!!! AJU
repost this to true father and mothers videos if u are a B.C OR 1ST GEN.
Bboyuta 3 years ago
Reverend Moon's teachings are far more complete then that of Jesus, Rev. Moon uses Science in the Divine Principal.
Religion and Science go hand in hand. It is too obvious that God exists.
The universe expands so we can tell that it must have started at a point, the big bang. The big bang theory suggests that all matter was created in an explosion of energy. But the basis of matter, suggests that matter cannot be created or destroyed. So where did this energy come from? God!
saijeehiguchi 3 years ago 9
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Rev. Moon is the prophetic figure written of in Luke and Matthew as the Faithful and Wise Stewrad; the "meat in due season" he brought was the Divine Principle; and his position was that of Joseph over the House of Egypt; and this world as over Satan; his Destiny was to reach the position of the Messiah if he passed the final test; and his Fate is to be cut asunder" and suffer the death of John the Baptist if he doesn't; this is situation; as I document in my book the Revelation of Salvation.
christopherthelast 2 years ago
@saijeehiguchi And where does God come from? Your logical reasoning is completely flawed.
bcn001 1 year ago
@bcn001 Quantum theory suggests that around the 11nth dimension, imagination is reality, which we refer to as "The Spirit World". God is a "Spiritual Being". He exists in a higher dimension. Therefore God is timeless and eternal, which would suggest, that he was always there.
The idea of God alone, suggests that everything was created from him. Which is parallel to big bang theory.
saijeehiguchi 1 year ago
@saijeehiguchi Quantum theory does not suggest the existence of a spiritual being and it neither suggests the existence of a "spirit world". I think you should talk with a phycisist so that he can explain to you what the current state of physics theories are.
bcn001 1 year ago
@bcn001 Your rebuttal is invalid. That's not what I said. I said it suggests something, and we unification refer to it as something else.
saijeehiguchi 1 year ago
@saijeehiguchi But you are not proving anything. Your explanations are just wishful thinking. I could also claim that quantum theory "suggests" whatever I wish it to suggest. That is no proof of the existence of God. That is a misuse of mathematics and physics to maintain a belief system that lacks scientific basis.
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saijeehiguchi 1 year ago
@saijeehiguchi
People these days complain about Rev Moon's theology without even knowing it. They complain about Rev Moon without knowing him.
How can we call such a behaviour? I better keep my mouth shut.
brunoklotz 1 year ago
@brunoklotz You've got a fine point there, and I've got more productive things to do with my time then argue with bcn001 too.
saijeehiguchi 1 year ago
@saijeehiguchi
Some people's religion is to not BELIEVE in God. Its just a blind believe. They have no way to prove the non existence of God. Nobody has ever proven it. Thats because it CANNOT be proven.
To only believe in coincidence requires the denial of reason.
brunoklotz 1 year ago
@saijeehiguchi
Clearly you are not very well read, but there are theories such as the multiverse theory...
i don't rememmber jesus ever discreditting the big bang theory....
And considering that rev. moon claims to best mates with jesus and they work hand in hand, as he is apparently the second messiah ( bullshite BTW), shouldn't you believe that moon is finishing jesus's work..
Odd that the bible says it is finished and says that false messiahs will come...
downtownmcgee 1 year ago
@downtownmcgee Multiverse actually is explained in our teachings, a lot of it has to do with the relationship between the physical and the spiritual world.
I never said Jesus discredited it either, but a bunch of hard core Christians do, stating that the universe is only a few thousand years old.
Who ever said that I don't believe that Reverend Moon has been finishing Jesus' work?
If Jesus was done, why would he say he would return. Not surprisingly, this is also explained in our teachings.
saijeehiguchi 1 year ago
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i realized that You will only see TRUE Christians base on their heart! Jesus once said, "what goes into the mouth does not defile a man, but comes out from the mouth which comes from the heart it defiles a man..." (Matthew 15:17-21). finish reading by yourself and you will know satan! let's check ourselves with prayer if we truly don't possess such kind of heart! dirty (evil) words comes from dirty (evil)heart! C'mon, try and together let's practice within ourselves to have a TRUE GODLY HEART!!!
arnolfocortez 3 years ago
For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many."(Matt 24)
robertorgan 3 years ago 2
well i am not deceived, for i never expect anyone to do good for me. but i just keep on trying to do good for others. and one thing more, jesus choose rev. moon. thats enough for me. PEACE:)
unread1234 3 years ago
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What unread1234 said " Jesus Choose rev. Moon" is a big lie.
If Jesus can "choose" Rev. Moon, then i think Jesus would be able to personally reveal it to chirstian world. Why creating so much controveries?.
Jrhni11 3 years ago
jesus did. but christianity never lesten. coz they are so blind with the thought that jesus would come from the clouds leteraly. and jesus himself would come personaly. it would be imposible to a 2000 year old dead man and whose body returned to dust. jesus revealed to 16 year old SUN MYOUNG MOON the secrets of heaven and ask him to contenue his mission
unread1234 3 years ago
What a joke. Another religion formed to take peoples money for themselves. Do you all know Moon has been convicted and imprisioned several times and lived in exile for the crimes he committed?
johnhart30 3 years ago
he was convicted 6 times and suffered almost to his death. he endured the most brutal prisons. and the only crime he commited is SPREADING THE WORD OF GOD IN A COMMUNIST TERRETORY. so tell me you were rev. moon, would still continue even if the world is not worthy of you? even now at age of 90 he still continue his work. at 90, with his past suffering, its not easy to work for the world peace.
unread1234 3 years ago
The man was convicted of tax evasion, extortion and and spent two years in prison for those crimes while living the life of an exile trying to avoid authorities for conviction of his crimes.
Religion doesn't need to be the orchestrator for world peace, displacing corrupt governments and replacing them with new ones will provide world peace while "preaching it."
johnhart30 3 years ago
we all know that its an unjust trial. and the poblem is not the corrupt governments, its the people who are so coward to step forward and live by True Love. people are too arrogant and ignorant
unread1234 3 years ago
Is this trial just as unjust as the thousands of Priests who were convicted of molestation? Are priests exempt from any criminal prosecution because they are priests? That's an absurd standard.
Priests are some of the most corrupt individuals in society because they are blanketed by the governments who use their ideology and teachings to spread war, hate and destruction to countries and their citizens throughout the world.
johnhart30 3 years ago
not because you have undergo thru a trial you are guilty. and i am not saying that priest are exempted for any criminal prosecution. but the basis of the offens for rev. moon are purely political and self centered. they didnt recognize his big contributions in ending wars. and all political ententions to bring him down. but as you can see even at age of 90 he never give his faith and mission. TRUE LOVE IS THE KEY
unread1234 3 years ago
based on history priests and religious leders have devieted from thier true mission (living for the sake of other) instead, they focused so much on how they could gain more power and money. thats why rev. moon was rejected by the religious leders. coz if they were to follow rev. moon, they will lose money and be neglected by those who cant understand them. thats is the main reason he was persecuted. by preaching the true way of peace he was repeatedly rejected by those coward individuals
unread1234 3 years ago
Your reading the wrong history...priests never had a "true mission?" Priests took advantage of the ability to read and write, nothing more.
They formed their own special caste system where their "privileged" knowledge got them food, money and clothing....we see the same thing today, that is why they are the richest and most corrupt institution on the planet.
Now that people have the ability to read and write, just as priests, you see atheism grow worldwide...coincidence? I think not.
johnhart30 3 years ago
perhaps you never understand the true mission for each of us. you reasonate out of your imature heart. each creation has a true mission or reason for existence. it is to bring joy to others. to live for others. no one is excempted with that, not even the atheists. humanity doesnt have unity, thats why we suffer. HAVE A BIG HEART:)
unread1234 3 years ago
I read the right history with my heart. preists are to be the image of jesus christ who live for the sake of others. but they never had a full grasp on the importance of thier possition, and took the advantage of the authority. preached erilivant teachings and addopted some cultures of pagans, rev. moon want to correct this wrong doings but he was rejected
unread1234 3 years ago
What a statement from you to assume I have an immature heart? I live according to Frans de Waal's scientific findings that we are an instinctively moral species, therefore, we do not need religion to find a sense of right and wrong, it comes built in.
Jesus Christ's life is not documented outside the so called sacred text you call the bible, because he is a mythical figure created just as all the religious deities that came before him.
johnhart30 3 years ago
In the end, religion (fabricated by priests) has done nothing but detach us from our very own nature and ourselves.
johnhart30 3 years ago
unification theology teaches that human beings had undergone a process called evolotion. but its just a process. what i mean is our present form did not happened by chance. but we are the master piece of GOD our ultimate creator. all things are created because of us, this is how GOD loves us, imagine many billions of years He waited for us to be finaly created and so that he could share His love for us, and yet we dont recognize Him. can you imagine the pain His suffering right now?
unread1234 3 years ago
unification theory has adapted to science because the scientific evidence is overwhelming, debunking every religious foundation.
johnhart30 3 years ago
unification theology is a fused science and riligion. and possesed an unchaging truth. read the book. before you embarash your self
unread1234 3 years ago
Listen, religion is loosing it's grip on the millions of people that donate cash every week...therefore, they are changing there ideologies to cover every aspect of science to continue control.
May I suggest you place a picture of yourself or some form of identity on your channel so that you may be taken seriously with your comments in the future.
johnhart30 3 years ago
well unification theology has never change its ideologies. will never change. cause first and foremost its unchanging. it has a full grasp on science and religion. idealy science and riligion should help each other to bring world peace. i dont mind if you dont take my comments seriously, any way its your loss
unread1234 3 years ago
hahaha..... yeah!!!! just like you came from ape? you are right that we are an instinctively moral species. coz our creator is an instinctively moral being. and so his son jesus
unread1234 3 years ago
As I did and so did everyone else come from ape. I understand it's a hard thing to fathom, but perhaps in time you can accept it.
johnhart30 3 years ago
the truth is we realy had undergone a process of what we commonly called evolotion. human beings, before we reach our present form had a huge resymblance of an ape. but APE is a name of specie and HUMAN BIENG is another
unread1234 3 years ago
That's why we share 95% of our DNA with apes. Furthermore, we have 46 chromosomes while apes have 48, however, the missing two fused together.
Take a look yourself...each chromosome has a centromere in the center, and two telomeres on the ends. Chromosome #2 has telomeres in the middle and the only chromosome to have this unique feature...the evidence is overwhelming, yet you type here sharing your OWN interpretation of things while citing nothing?
Please educate yourself.
johnhart30 3 years ago
johnhart30
"Please educate yourself."
are you talking to your self?
unread1234 3 years ago
no, just the one wearing the blinders, that would be you.
johnhart30 3 years ago
your insisting that i dont believe in science, and that religion is false you dont realy read lot you know. as ive siad i have no problem with science. science explains my faith. and my faith keeps me reaching for higher standard. and keeps me loving you
unread1234 3 years ago
Any logical person can't have science in one hand while holding religion in the other? All that does is say you have blind faith in a mythical deity while keeping science in your back pocket to use when individuals debunk your faith.
Once again, you know Jesus Christ is not documented in any other source other than sacred, manufactured scripture.
johnhart30 3 years ago
Earlier, you told me you believed in Frans de Waal's statement but you still insist you need religion to "love" people? If it comes built in (moral sentiment) than why do you need religion?
You need it because you live in fear of what awaits you in the "afterlife" when it simply does not exist in the form of "heaven" or "hell."
johnhart30 3 years ago
read the book of unification thought. then you wil understand what im saying. GOD Bless you
unread1234 3 years ago
moral sentiment is belt in because the one who creatd us is a moral being, thatsa why i told you that i believed in frans de waal. but just like brain/mind it has to be develop and mature, science is a school for brain, religion is a school of morality. but sad to say imature heart and selfish motivations coused divisions and chaos. so both science and religion must stand and solve this problem
unread1234 3 years ago
its all logical, and fair. you cant just have one of them. you must have both.Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. (Albert Einstein)
unread1234 3 years ago
it's odd you claim Einstein in your quote when questioning someone else's beliefs?
Einstein has made many famous quotes in his lifetime, especially early in life when he was still religious. However, when he died, he was an atheist and wanted or belonged to no religion whatsoever.
I love how you quote an atheist to try and disprove one.
johnhart30 3 years ago
well said !....this is 'horrifyin' ain't it john ? ..
wonder what rod serling would say to this ????!!!!
bebop54 3 years ago
It is very horrifying indeed...just wish people could see through this guy. Rev. Moon is not what he's cracked up to be.
johnhart30 3 years ago
hahahaha, APES!!!
unread1234 3 years ago
and for you my friend did do consider your self a HUMAN BEING OR AN APE?
unread1234 3 years ago
i don't get your point ? are you askin' me if i don't follow a psychopath than i'm an ape ? ...
lol ..
you didn't do very well in logic , i guess ...
an idolizer and slave is not what it means to be 'human' ..
you are not an individual nor do you have the 'will' to live by your own ethics ...
wake up ...friend ...
learn what it means to BE human & than get into your 'ape trips' ...lol
you're hilarious really ..
bebop54 3 years ago
im sorry for my attitude friend. i know it sounds crazy but GOD'S existence has been proven countless of times. GOD iS real. for some they call him the universal prime energy, the Root of everything, jehovah, the suprime being, and for rev. Moon GOD is a FAther whose heart is bleeding for thousands of years watching His cheldren killing each other, and weather we know Him or not, He is in every good things that you have right now. He is invisible coz He is an Energy.
unread1234 3 years ago
hiya unread ..this ain't about god ...
this is about rev.moon! ...
how dare anyone be so pompous .....
each person has their OWN connection with the divine ..and each INDIVIDUAL chooses with their FREE WILL how they will communicate & in what form ...
there is no need for a 'middleman' ( especially a rev. moon !!)..
i assume rev. moon is human just like the rest of us ( i hope ) ..
your stance shows that you do not believe in the dignity and free will of each and every human being ...sad ...
bebop54 3 years ago
"each person has their OWN connection with the divine ..and each INDIVIDUAL chooses with their FREE WILL how they will communicate & in what form" that was before Adam and Eve committed the FALL. after the fall all bonds to God were cut off. God cant and the only way we communicate to Him is thru burning of offerings. so we need a middleman to reconcile God and His lost children. Thats why God send Jesus a purified/sinless human being
unread1234 3 years ago
that's where we disagree friend ..
we need a pure heart to 'reconcile' & that's all ...
so simple ....
it's all about love ...
bebop54 3 years ago
throughout the history, who is the man who had a pure heart and true love? no one but Christ. True love, absolute obedience, absolute faith, is the way to reconcile to GOD, and thats what rev. Moon's teaching is all about. if its as easy as that, then why did GOD waited for thousands of years in for us to go back to His dominion. suffering the pain of seeing his children killing each other
unread1234 3 years ago
no rev' moon's WORDS & PROPAGANDA are about the illusions you are confused about ..
moon's agenda has nothing to do with christ's teachin ' ...
words are not deeds ... & you soil the name of jesus
( who you profess to love & follow )... a true follower of christ would feel kindness to animals & ALL living beings ..
but ...
you have shown 'disdain' for the ape & i'm sure you are a meat eater also ...
therefore , your views are very hypocritical
HOW 'BOUT STICKIN' WITH THE REAL JESUS ?...
bebop54 3 years ago
have you read 1 of his books? there are more than 400 of them. ill ask to read just one of them. then tell me his teaching has nothing to do with crist. and i believe rev. is the only man living on earth who really understand God and Jesus heart. and please read the content of my message first (about ape) before you comment. and if that still hurts you then im sorry, i never meant to. as you can see im still not perfect. but still trying.
unread1234 3 years ago
have you read 1 of Rev. Moons Books? there are more than 400 of them. after you finished reading just 1 of them, tell me his teaching has nothing to do with christ. read the content of my message (about ape) first before you comment. and if that still hurts you then im so sorry if i said anything bad. i never meant to. as u can see, im still not perfect, but still trying. good nyt friend.
unread1234 3 years ago
But Jesus was murdered on the cross so he promised to comeback. To complete his mission, but according to science its impossible for a 2000 yrs old dead man can go back to life with the same body, so he choose Rev. Moon, another purified Human being
unread1234 3 years ago
bebop54 3 years ago
its you who need to do more research. read the unification theology before you argue with me about it. christ preach to the poor people coz rich people neglect him. before he preach at the poor people he preached to the priest but the priest rejected him. so he had no choice but to look for poor people who would follow him coz those priests, prepared by God for thousands of years failed to follow him. and the worst is the very people of God murdered His son. read the bible again
unread1234 3 years ago
however rev. find a way to convince the rich people to use their money in serving poor countries like Africa. I've done all my research and if the world turns to hell even if there is Rev. Moon, then its not because one man. but our individual responsibility to save the world. we members of unification members have the Biggest dream ever, it is BUILDING AND IDEAL WORLD OF PEACE. its up to you if you don't believe it but I'm speaking with my heart. any way not my loss
unread1234 3 years ago
..IF YOU REMEMBER
christ wore a crown of thorns
Christ never wanted to were that crown of thorns, it the people who dont believe in him who made him to. if you could just imagine the suffering Jesus had gone thru his crucifixion. but God has no choice but to let christ die on the cross so that in three day he could be resurrected. that crucifixion was the murder of a pure man. and its the biggest shame of mankind
unread1234 3 years ago
it's an even larger "shame" that you soil the name of christ with your idolizing & 'fawning' over a charlatan & 'madman' ...
really, how dare you call rev' moon the incarnation of jesus christ ... ..
obviously you like to hear yourself speak without regard to an interactive dialogue ...
we are TRULY on a VERY different page...
take care & good luck to you !!!
bebop54 3 years ago
well i dont blame you for having that on your mind. just trying to an honest man. and please start thinking about knowing the person first before you curse them. Hope you ancestor protect you always. And have a nice day
REV. SON MYUNG MOON IS THE MESSIAH!!!!!
ALHAMDUNILAH!!!!
unread1234 3 years ago
but 'nada' about the crown of gold that rev' moon wears , ey ?
HAVE FUN IN LA-LA LAND ...
bebop54 3 years ago
if its not too much for you, i would like you to read the book of unification thought. its the only way you could understand what im trying to say. some words are too hard for me explain to you. pls friend consider my request.
unread1234 3 years ago
After the fall human being lost its dignity, position as children of God, and assumed the position of children of Satan. the most tragic situation is God lost his lineage. So He need to wait for thousand of yrs for a sinless man could regain the relationship that was lost thru the FALL. the purification was posible thru the eforts/sacrifies of Gods choosin people. the same pattern of history for jesus to be sent happend to rev. moon
unread1234 3 years ago
Let me get this straight? Rev. Moon is or was going to be crucified? Religious nutbags never cease to amaze me? Let me explain something to you real quick. Moon would like you to think Satan exists...now whether you believe he does or not...take the readings of Justin Martyr and St. Augustine of Hippo when it comes to Satan. Don't take my word on it, take histories.
Religion, and now Rev. Moon has induced brain rot on your very existence. Such a shame you live life on such a limited scale.
johnhart30 3 years ago
NO! REV. MOON WILL NOT BE CRUCIFIED. we will die first before he will. rev. moon has a lot of members who understands his mission than the followers of jesus in his time. and what ever you thinking ar saying about him he is still the MESSIAH!!!
ingat!!!!!
unread1234 3 years ago
"we will die first before he will"
this is why fanatical Christians cannot be reasoned with, ever. You actually have allowed your diluted fantasies to overcome your reality.
Your so detached from yourself and your surroundings that you will believe in anything to make all the wrong in the world seem justified? WE are responsible for the wrong in this world, it's not a result of Satan.
Good luck in life relying on the lies of a religious institution.
johnhart30 3 years ago
Its just an expression of my loyalty to the will of goodness.And I never said that Satan is the only responsible for chaos of this world.Satan cant do it alone. Same as God cant do it alone. We are the deciding factor of what will this world become. And yes Im detached with this world of lies. what seems to be normal to you is not normal to me. Every chaotic scenario of the evil world is not normal.problem is not normal,Thats why its called problem.You should start thinking outside ur cocoon
unread1234 3 years ago
well since it was just an expression allow me to school you. You admit we evolved from apes, truth is every instinct we have, whether it be sexual or instinctual mirrors that of apes. Furthermore, if you followed science a bit more, you would know and realize that 1% of the total population in the world must go crazy as a result of our own behavior and tendencies. It's proven scientific fact. Once again, stop using religion as a crutch and become a solution to fix the root of the problem
johnhart30 3 years ago
oh! hi dear!
Good morning!
no. im using both science and religion. Every good things must be utilize to solve the ignorance and arrogance of of this world. and to tell you something new, i will reveal to the root cause of all the chaos of this miserable world. Its the elicit relationship of our first ancestors. The misuse of love is main root of our differences and all the wars of the world. In short immature spirit and heart.
unread1234 3 years ago
So to solve it. We need to use the school of love and morality, the family, thats why rev. moon founded the FAMILY FEDERATION FOR WORLD PEACE. Religion is not enough to solve the problem. Same as science is not enough to solve it.
unread1234 3 years ago
your problem is your using religion when you do need it to solve, answer or fix any of your problems. Religion is based on blind faith. Faith of a man (Jesus Christ) who never existed and is never documented outside of biblical text fabricated on myth. That is blind faith and so long as you continue to use it, you will continue to be clueless to your surroundings. Hey if you believe in fairy tales, then that's your thing, good luck with that.
johnhart30 3 years ago
Your problem is youre so unfair, close minded, cold hearted being. And resonate based on selfish arguments. Dont alienate your self with the rest of the world. Start using your heart in seeing things
unread1234 3 years ago
and your problem is you assume to know me, or who I am? Kinda like you think an invisible guy exists up in the clouds watching over you who has reincarnated into Rev. Moon? Right, I really sound like the close minded one. Whatever makes you happy buddy, keep on living in your fantasy world.
Once again, quit dodging the question I continue to ask. You as a follower of Jesus Christ should already know that he is never accounted for outside of a biblical text. You worship a man who never existed
johnhart30 3 years ago
Furthermore, you assume that because I don't have religion I cannot be compassionate? Truth is, I think with my head and my heart, where you demonstrate to think only with your heart. Do see the problem with that?
johnhart30 3 years ago
no i dont assume that because I don't have religion I cannot be compassionate? i just want to have a one GLOBAL FANILY UNDRED ONE CRETAOR. AND WORLD PEACE!!!!!
unread1234 3 years ago
and no individualism whatsoever ?
bebop54 3 years ago
You as a follower of Jesus Christ should already know that he is never accounted for outside of a biblical text.
you can find Jesus in koran. the bible is a compilation of books.
my comments are based on the messages that you posted.
before burst in anger read the unification theology first. then you can argue with me.
unread1234 3 years ago
i said youre close minded and cold hearted cause you dont want other kind of people to co exist with you. read your comments
unread1234 3 years ago
my point exactly, now your assuming I don't want the world to co-exist? If you looked at my You Tube channel, co-existing is pasted all over my channel and in my comments? You want this existence of world unity under a creator, the problem is there is no creator?
Furthermore, the Quran is a holy text in another language. I said a reference from a NON-BIBLICAL source.
I'm not angry, I'm just trying to wake you up to reality. Sorry if it has to come across as such.
johnhart30 3 years ago
the man that you refering to is a hoily man. so every texts of books that has to do with him is considered holy. how can you speak about coexistence when are denying the existence of the creator? if therwe is no creator then why do we exist? creator means the initiator of creation. the very breath you are taking right now comes from Him. as you continue to study science, you will come prove that the universe could not exist by its own, you will observe the order of life and its purpose
unread1234 3 years ago
we exist because of science and the evolution of every creature on this planet. Fusion of elements created energy and thus concluded with the big bang. We humans share DNA with the simplest of life forms, to include micro organisms. The medulla oblongata, the part of the brain found in every human is a reptilian brain. It is not special or unique. It only goes to show how common we are with every living organism on this planet.
johnhart30 3 years ago
ITS BECAUSE WE SHARE A COMMON ORIGIN
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"ITS BECAUSE WE SHARE A COMMON ORIGIN"......
to every living organism on this planet. In Genesis, god stated that man was made in his image unlike any other creature on this planet. If this statement is true, then we should be unlike any other organism found on this planet, not share common genetics with them?
johnhart30 3 years ago
. If you really want to know what Im trying to say we should have the same ground. Science is to explain religion and religion is to explain science and vice versa.
unread1234 3 years ago
wow are you lost. My friend john hart will chew you up with hard core facts. I can as well. Religion is all bullshit. All the bibles are as well. I care not what religion you look to. I will also point out science atleast real factual science supports a god idea zero % of the time. People are indocterned into religion at a young age it's one giant cult. Then you grow up and move from one cult branch to another muslim jew ect but you never leave the cult for all religions worship the sun.
Edgrot 3 years ago
hahaha really?
"My friend john hart will chew you up with hard core facts. I can as well."
you think you really can?
what fact?
with all religions worship the sun?
get your facts right first. ok?
and stop arguing to people if you dont care listening? theres no point.
unread1234 3 years ago 2
read the books youre critizing first.
unread1234 3 years ago
these people are slaves , & the biggest sin of all is to throw the 'free will' in the garbage ..
what do they say ? 'pearls before swine" ?
this is moonie's nephew or son or somethin' ...lol...poor jesus ....lol
bebop54 3 years ago
bebop54
have you been in the unification church? have ever read the teachings of Rev. Moon? have you ever meet this man? talk to him?
If you not, please stop these negative comments... it will just poison you good life.
God Bless!!!!
unread1234 3 years ago
They are dangerous.
gtpson 3 years ago
yeah man !.....
bebop54 3 years ago
if god is all powerful then you would have to agree he can see into the future. if he can see into the future then our actions are predetermined. therefor "free will" is already in the garbage.
elevenajh85 3 years ago
i don't have to agree with ANYTHING ...
i am an individual with a free will ..
not a slave.. you be what you want to be ..
to each their own ...
bebop54 3 years ago
God can only show us the consequences of our actions, if we follow his will, we will be in heaven if we dont we will go to hell.
but its for us to decide.
Free Will is the only thing that God cannot interfere. Thats why in the bible the predictions of the prophets always come in two.
If our future is predetermined by God then why did He let us suffer? And why is it that after 6000 biblical years, Kingdom of heaven hasnt come?
unread1234 3 years ago 2
God cannot see the future, because the future does not exist, nor does the past(but it had existed). You can't see something that doesn't exist, only imagine.
If God could see the future, and created everything, that would say that God Created the future, as if writing a book, but this cannot be, or he would never have cried for seeing man suffer, because that would mean he meant it to be that way. Why would someone cry over watching people suffer, if that person made it that way intentionally?
saijeehiguchi 2 years ago
this guy has more 'heart' in his pinky than most have in their whole body ...
even his name has 'heart' ..lol
YOU should check out HIS vid's and try to learn somethin' ...
you sound like a drooling salivating masochistic slave !!!!!!!!!!!!
and aggressive at that !!...
get over it already !!!
bebop54 3 years ago
"it's odd you claim Einstein in your quote when questioning someone else's beliefs?"
sorry but i just wanna ask one last question, what do you believe? perhaps its you who questions some one elses beliefs coz you dont believe in it. and please keep it in mind. even if i die now, REV. MOON IS A TRUE MAN, and your nothing compared to him. you dont even know him so you dont have the right to tell me who he is. GOT IT? PRETENDER!!!
unread1234 3 years ago
Hahahahahahaha.....BLIND FAITH!!!
I believe in science. I don't believe in an invisible man hanging around in the sky watching over us, nor do I believe in a man named Jesus Christ who is never documented in history to have existed. Furthermore, I don't believe that a convicted criminal, such as Rev. Moon should be the head of any organization, let alone a religious one.
Instead of being a follower the rest of your life, perhaps you should learn to lead?
johnhart30 3 years ago
i am leader, i lead young people and show them how to live for others and not destroy others. i am a 1st degree black belt, and a Father. and most importantly i consider my self a HUMAN BEING AND NOT AN APE. i understand science and its purpose. even thu sometimes i made mistakes i never stop love others. GOD BLESS YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR APE LIFE
unread1234 3 years ago
Who said I considered myself an ape? I'm a human whose ancestors evolved from apes? I recommend you read "good natured" by Frans de Waal, it may show you just how common we are to apes. We share 96% of our DNA and the only difference is the amount of chromosomes we have, however, Dr. Keith Miller shows how chromosome #2 fused with #4. In the end, the evidence speaks for itself.
Your a follower of a convicted criminal and religion. You don't need either of these things to be successful in life.
johnhart30 3 years ago
and how many time do i have to tell you that i do believe that for one stage of evelotion we looked like ape. dont lecture me about science like i dont know it. and who are you to tell me what i need? its you who ont read my messages. you know too litle
unread1234 3 years ago
AND IF YOU DONT CONSIDER YOUR SELF AS AN APE THEN WHY ARE O EAGER TO TELL ME THAT WE CAME FROM APE WHEN I KNOW IT ALREADY? and why do you care so much to dissuade someone about thier beliefs when you dont even listen to them. PRETENDER!!!!!
unread1234 3 years ago
you sure got alot of time on your hands buddy ...lol
what do you give a 'rat's left nut' what i consider myself ..
a bit of a busy-body are ya ' now ?
bebop54 3 years ago
john if these morons are 'humans' than i'm proud to call myself an ape ...
bebop54 3 years ago
I hear you loud and clear bebop...;=]
johnhart30 3 years ago
"AND IF YOU DONT CONSIDER YOUR SELF AS AN APE THEN WHY ARE O EAGER TO TELL ME THAT WE CAME FROM APE WHEN I KNOW IT ALREADY?"
Didn't you just admit to me we evolved from an ape? Why do you ask if I consider myself human or ape? Then try to ridicule me when I say ape? I'm glad to know your an ape as well, or at least evolved from one, perhaps, we can move on with this conversation now that we have established our existence.
johnhart30 3 years ago
bottom line, whether ape or human, you really don't need religion in you life.
You say you agree with Frans de Waal's conclusion that we have moral sentiment built in. Please answer,
......."why you need to have religion in your life to instill a sense of right and wrong? Or even Rev. Moon for that matter?"
johnhart30 3 years ago
it's gotten outta hand !!.....lol
bebop54 3 years ago
this person apparently just doesn't get it!!!
johnhart30 3 years ago
and you think you do???????
unread1234 3 years ago
lmao ...i just don't know what to say ...
i'm stunned!!!!
poor jesus , he must be so insulted !...
i think frank serpico should be jesus in this life !!!!!!!!!!!!!.....
bebop54 3 years ago
The theory of evolution tells us that we came from ape. Thats right. We CAME from the same image of an APE. in our process of evolution to become a HUMAN BEING. APE IS A NAME OF SPECIE, HUMAN BEING IS ANOTHER After all; the universe, according to science was formed by fission of gas like hydrogen. And due to our location on our solar system that gave the earth a chance to sustain life. THANKS FOR THE YOUR TIME BROTHER
unread1234 3 years ago
ps - please consider that not all of us fall in such 'scripted' categories of belief ...
gorilla vs. your way of belief ..
there are myriad other forms of divinity & love than are in your small tight 'categorized' world .. ...
as many individual's exist on this grand earth , so there are so many different forms of thought , logic , expression ... rev' moon or whoever else claiming to be the 'one who knows' cannot come close to an individual who lives by concience & free will ...
bebop54 3 years ago
this person just doesn't quit?
johnhart30 3 years ago
yeah! hahaha
unread1234 3 years ago
if reverend sun yun moon has a 2nd family then he would received the 2nd family blessing. I attend the seminar for 4 days and I found out his intensions and the divine principle are good.
markcuties 3 years ago
maybe i still hope
kapz100 3 years ago
y is moons reputation bad on the doco but yet you claim he hasnt done any mistake
do we know the truth of him or is it all talks
kapz100 3 years ago
Those people who persecuted our church are people who just hear our church. But dont know anything about it. We are following Rev. Moons teaching not for our own sake and satisfaction, but to live for others. Can you understand what Im saying? We dont want others to do some good for us, but we are here to do good for others. Following the examples of our founder, devoting our live to attain perfection in individual level, family level, society, and then creating an ideal world.
unread1234 3 years ago
unread1234: deine worte sind miese, dreckige heuchelei.
giblueser 3 years ago
english please
unread1234 3 years ago
we preach the good news but we are not claiming that we absolutly can follow what is Gods Will. thats why there is the word TRY. ITS NOT HOW BAD YOU ARE, BUT ITS HARD YOU ARE TRYING TO GOOD.
unread1234 3 years ago
you preach the good news? my dear friend, don`t you know this so-called good news turned out to be hell for a lot of people! because the good news and the so-called unchangeable thruth changed arbitrary! and because they believed in this "good news" - until they recognized they were deceived, badly deceived. they were used and misused as long they could be used and misused. Know what? Your great messiah, Rev. Moon cares a shit about people like me! there is no place to tell you all what happend.
giblueser 3 years ago
giblueser
so you did join the church?
Yes the teaching of rev. Moon is quite deferent and hard to comprehend. He is pushing his member to the limit and sometimes give directions that we sometimes misunderstand. Bur if we look at in a distance we realize its for us to grow. I have done almost all the activities in the church like fund raising, food raising and witnessing. 5 of my brothers and sisters are leaders of the church
unread1234 3 years ago
WE DONT EXPECT THE CHURCH WOULD DO SOMETHING FOR US, the church in reality is living for the sake of the world. So if you dont live for the sake of the world you are not really a member.
unread1234 3 years ago
Show what have you done for the sake of the world.??.
By holding some irrelevent festivals , conferences?.. with luxurious hotel logging,air tickets n food provided for free to some greedy " V.I.P"..
Jrhni11 3 years ago
we have global peace festivals here in phillipines, specially in mindanao (an island were muslims and christians have constanr war) we invite muslim and christn leders to talk about the best sulotion of these kind of problems. and to say no to violence. we want to live in a world were people love each other and not kill each other. lets not be arrogant on this mattr
unread1234 3 years ago
in this festival we have sevice for peace (feeding program, cleaning of public places, etc.) youth conference (a conference for youth to teach them the right way of leadership and living for others and lots of good things) religious conference were imams, priests, pastors join together to creat peace. AND LOTS OF GOOD STUFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so tell me what is an irrelevant festival? please do some reserach first. and most importantly have a BIG HEART.
unread1234 3 years ago
I am deeply sorry for members who really EXPECT that the church could give them what they want. The church has countless members with the same problems. But you see, it depends on our motivations/interest and level of heart to live for others. Some leaders are too arrogant and ignorant to use the church for their sake. And members judge the church for the wrong act of one leader. I too have disappointments on our local leaders, but if linger too long on this feeling satan will claim you
unread1234 3 years ago
glad moony is not in my country or his followers and to think he is the messiah what joke is this lolololololololololololololololololololololol
kapz100 3 years ago
?
moon is a man of peace. he isnt powerhungry or wanted to dictate the world. all he wants is people to unite.
fromcagetotemple 3 years ago
this world is fukt any way
there will always be war
dude we in hell
this world will never be a better place
war 4 eva
kapz100 3 years ago
stop being so negative.. there is honestly no point.
fromcagetotemple 3 years ago
well thats the truth
im not being negative im saying the truth
what u think this guy will ever unite the people the world unless there is a miracle right now
there is honestly no point
may your god bless you if he does exist
kapz100 3 years ago
you know what?
arrogance and ignorance kills each other
unread1234 3 years ago
religion kills people 2 u know
kapz100 3 years ago
NO people kills people. arogant religions kills ignorant religions and vice versa, same as unbeliever kills the believer. its the reality of this world of arrogance and ignorance. WAKE UP!!!!!
unread1234 3 years ago
WELL welcome to hell BITCH
kapz100 3 years ago
dont welcome me coz dont wanna be in hell. thats why we wanna build the kingdome of ideal, peacefull world. were both of can be friends. just accept the fact that we are one family under one creator
unread1234 3 years ago
ok so if this aint hell it surely not heavnz paradise aswell look around u theres nothing but killing in this place ill tell u sumting i use 2 believe in jesus i alwayz ask out for jesus in troubles but i figured it was another santa clause thing so i started losing faith i forgotten the bible and i only trust my self in this world the bible didnt feed my family i had to learn the hard way brother
kapz100 3 years ago