Ibert-Flute concerto 1st mvt, Marcel Moyse, Flute

[izambrzycki]

I don't believe this is Marcel Moyse...rushing like crazy and not playing the ritard to the high C? Strange

[Sonorekirio]

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[raanan17]

There will never be another Moyse.

[raanan17]

Would anyone happen to know when Fernand Caratge started playing first flute in the Lamoreux orch.?

[zdenek1113]

Although a historic recording, as regards the technical [recording technology] presentation, it should serve as an example of correct choice of tempo in order to present, at best, the syncopation character of the first subject, so important for the form. Whilst appproving my performance of the second movement [together with Blanche Honegger], he was critical of my somewhat fast perfomance of the first movement. Lesson taken.

zdenek1113

[kisszombies]

Does anyone know where I can find the sheet music for flute and piano?

[yanpan16]

@kisszombies Leduc publishes it. You can buy it from sheetmusic (dot) com or fluteworld (dot) com

[klezmerflute]

I'm enjoying the tempo that's taken so as to give it life, sensitivity to phrasing, rather than focusing on fast tempo/bravura. This is so revealing. So pleasant. Also more of duo with orchestra.

[rustydog1236]

Best version I've ever heard, the tone shading, all the registers, the vibrato, the rhythm, the shear musicality. This beats all the versions on YouTube and is not equaled in any other version yet!

[Flutist11]

Amazing.

[andreamontespeculo]

Il mio maestro per 2 anni...

[jazzflutist]

His flubs are much more advanced than most players.

[kfcohea]

@jazzflutist

right on! It shows that the God of the flute was human after all. Same goes with jazz recordings of the 50s. Trane and Miles flubbed notes all the time. It was part of the music to me. It said "go for it!". One of the things I dislike about so much music nowadays is it's perfection. Too often it sounds sterile to me.

[jazzflutist]

@kfcohea : Yes, I know what you mean by "sterile". I think all these flutists are copying each other, or reaching for some kind of imagined perfection. Copying each other is the worst thing you can do in jazz! (Thus its beauty). As for flute repertoire, it's all so over-played it's lost its meaning. Yes, many play very well, but how many times do you want to hear these pieces? We may have to turn to the improvisers (like me, I dare say ...).  ☺

[kfcohea]

@jazzflutist

We all started out copying someone.Tran copied Dexter. Getz - Pres. Dizzy- Eldridge. Rollins-Hawk. The only truly "original" tenor players were Lester Young and Colman Hawkins. Everyone else came from them. That's how the music progresses within the family tree. All these players made their own sounds from what they heard. Jazz flute has a very young tradition. Mostly by sax players turned doubler. That's me. Except Mann & Laws. 2 very different players. Flute is my passion now.

[yanpan16]

@jazzflutist the reason classical flute repertoire is overplayed is because there isn't enough of it! but also people like to stick to what is known and popular rather than play some more unknown works which are still excellent quality and so wonderful and try to bring them to light. :(

[raanan17]

This is the "pirated" recording,that Moyse requested not to release commercially,because there were too many flubs.

Moyse had marvelous technique-of a certain kind.Even though the ibert Conc. was dedicated to him-one must remember that with 78s,there was no editing-the performance was captured in its entirety.

Nevertheless this is marvelous playing,of a type not heard anymore,and deserves to be spread as much as possible.Thanks.

[hoopsmom1]

@raanan17 I was fortunate to be part of a series of masterclasses he did in the late 70's, and he said that he never cared for this piece! Marvelous musician, and at 90 he had a great sense of humor.

[raanan17]

@hoopsmom1

I was in Boswil 1n 1971,he never talked about Ibert there.Not liking the piece might explain why he didn't work on it sufficiently.

[LeptitFrantz1]

@raanan17 quite true !... and not to forget that for this recording made in Paris in Dec. 1935 he was accompanied by Eugène Bigot who had just started a 15-year tenure at the helm of the Lamoureux concert association.

[rebflute]

Thanks for posting

best wishes