Oranjoose's KANA vs KINZU vs XAI vs WMO review

[voodooshock]

I've just ordered a used wmo, since it's not available from shops anymore. You said you've purchased more wmos... Do they have a short lifetime ? If I plan to overclock it to 1000Hz, would it break the sensor over time ? btw very nice review, gj mate.

[FLPML]

can you help me? i dont know if i should pick the Kinzu V2 Pro or the Kana.

i have a qck+ fnatic edition, dont know if i am low or mid sens user (6/11 windows, 400dpi, 2.0ingame cs). i have a kinzu v1 that freezes sometimes... i heard the v2 is better, because it has teflon feet and Omron switches.

[AcousticFogg]

is that kinzu v2?

[alex199854]

did u have that doubleclickproblems with the kinzu?

[0zNNN]

HI , what do you think about SteelSeries KINZU v2 Pro Edition Black ?

[Kongre309]

theres a helicopter on ur mic

[obiwN]

hmmm, the ss kana's surface seems used. for how long have you been using it? or is it just dirt?

[MegaNovem]

i love wmo shape, now i think i love kana too :D

[PhoenixJuice]

KANAAAAAAA

[kavePizzaHunter]

the intellimouse 1.1 is now worth 70 euros in germany :P

time to sell and buy a : KANA (btw the bug was fixed)

[faRReSHO]

nice comercial ORANJOSEE

[xTYROCKx]

I will still keep my Microsoft X08 old but better then Kana and Sensei in my opinion

[NIGHTMAREger94]

whats wrong with the sound man .... 

[encorepower1]

Not WMO XAUXAUXAAXUAX

Inteli Mouse 1.1A i think ..

[R3T41L]

Thumbs up if u moved your ear near your mouse and clicked it when u saw he was testing clicking loudness xD

[srebrnyAg]

is this problem occuring with sensei too?

[13NyO13]

ie 3.0 > ALL :P

[srebrnyAg]

@13NyO13 wmo is the same in the different shell, bro. as i prefer smaller mouses and i had 3.0, 1.1 and now i have wmo and it's best from these 3 for me, just because it's shape. i had about 10 mices, maybe more.. it's a shame that still intellimouse sensor is best for fps, especially for cs, q3 etc.

[BuStRX]

@srebrnyAg whats the deal with it then, I dont really understand the difference between all these sensors

[JKmonitor90]

Хуйня

[eraterful]

good reviews

[gioxabaza9]

What mouse is better Steelseries Kana or Steelseries Kinzu? Answer Me PLease

[elcatiytwice]

What mause do u use when u are playing ( i dont speak very good english)

[Crazyyn00b]

whats wrong with your razer mouse, you jizz on it or something!? Good review tho.

[VxO4fame]

roflcopter

[tindanian]

would you recommend buying the Kana or the Sensei?

[tindanian]

how do the side buttons feel? very easy to press or need a bit of force?

[scottagarman]

@tindanian Super easy to press, too easy bump them all the time.

[SuzukiAkiraReita]

Apart from your microphone, great and very detailed review, just what I wanted to see, esp. the weight of each mouse. Not everyone mentions that or if the weight incl. cable or not. Please make more reviews of other mouse, if you get your hands on them. :P

[killedbybose]

i like this review ;)

[Dustemikkeltullekopp]

ur mic really sucks

[FawnJeremy]

Can the spaz problem with the kana be solved with something like driver updates? Or do they have to ship out a newer version.

[OranJuno]

@FawnJeremy

I don't know enough about the sensor technology to say for sure, but each mouse that uses the Pixart sensor has the same problem, from what I've heard.

There have been a few who claim they cannot reproduce the problem, along with many who seem to activate this problem more frequently than I can.

To me that sounds like a hardware defect, and not software-related, but I could be wrong.

I'll update if there is concrete news on this front, God-willing

[FawnJeremy]

@OranJuno Alright, much appreciated. I've had my eyes on the white version of the kana for a little while.

[scottagarman]

@FawnJeremy The white version does not have the rubber coating, I'm not sure why they don't state that anywhere before purchasing.

[pavloff26]

What if I put the skates from the kinzu on the kana... would that make it more suitable for cloth? Or is the kinzu sliding better on cloth than the kana? I have qck+ na`vi

[OranJuno]

@pavloff26

Getting new skates for the Kana (Kinzu skates are the same size I believe) will most definitely help the mouse out on cloth.

[DaMiAn3x4FUN]

@OranJuno What brand is that small keyboard ?

Any way Steelseries makes shit mouses.



[OranJuno]

@DaMiAn3x4FUN

It's a Filco Cherry Brown Tenkeyless mechanical keyboard. Elitekeyboards doesn't carry Filcos anymore, but they carry tenkeyless mechanical Leopold keyboards though.

[ChrisGotsIt]

What is that awful background thumping? Makes me wanna turn off the sound, but then I wouldn't know how you thought of the mouse :(

[fernandoprocy]

At ~7:10 you say you have no problem with the mice materials.. but damn, your mice are in awful state, even the kana which is a brand-new mouse

[Neusbotje]

wtf are you doing with you´r mice?

[vachic111]

Will be Steelseries KANA good at Roccat Taito?

[incubated]

wow. proper review. salute! im thinking steelseries are a little bit arrogant with these new mice? what the hell is this 5 new mice in last two months. sensei, diablo 3, and fnatic sensei are basically identical except sensei can get higher dpi. 11k yeah OK! who needs that. then they make slightly smaller kinzu v2 and v2 pro, still don't know what the difference between them is, and then they throw in an extra button on the sides and call it kana. this is just bizzare.

great review though

[men1kmati]

thinking about buying a kana becuase of the resemblance to the wmo...but that bug you were talking about really turned me off...

[deidara1901]

I had Sensei but the problem is that my hands always sweats when I'm playing for like 1hr. and half probably due to its LED light in the palm area of the mouse...I was thinking if I should buy KANA(white) or the Kinzu V2 Pro Edition(Black). Is KANA white and Kinzu V2 Pro Edition gives a comfortable feeling of the hands without sweating???

[warlockskz]

Finally something to replace my IE 3.0 with. Now if only they sell the Kana in retail store.

[TheBuba8888]

kinzu is the best

[KiuudenPOWER]

This mouse have a some bug? for example; the aceleration or scroll exec random moments?

double clicking bug?

or perfect perfect :D?

[matserdingud]

man, so good review quality except for the HORRENDOUS MICROPHONE! omg, im almost tempted to buy you one and send it to you. Unfortunately im poor.

thanks for the info though <3

[R0ssee]

Oh if have that mic!

[R0ssee]

YES Finally, a good replacement for the Razer Diamondback!!

[gmanthebeast1]

might want to wash your hands before touching 100s of dollars worth of stuff idiot.

[Shase007]

The 1st actually useful mouse review I've ever seen. Wd

[Trusteft]

I would throw that Razer mouse you have to the garbage if I were you. It looks like it has some horrific disease on its surface.

Good review.



[greendayeah]

KANA and MICROSOFT BEST!!!

[Misemono56]

I wish Razer would make an IMO 1.1 inspired mouse. Something with less sharply slanted sides, a wider base, and slightly taller back at a very light weight.

[LeaFtw]

i just got the mouse but it totally feels strange, when i do a 180 turn in cs, im watching up to the sky oO and the cursor doesnt feels very smooth in rts games like the mx518 was

[tempestpesh]

Very good video,extremely detailed in terms of all the aspects.

Right now,I'm still with my old IE3.0, the wheel is by far gone,I haven't been using the scroll wheel when I play games for quite a while, and now I'm considering in buying a new mouse.

I waited for the Kana since the day that the voting poll opened, and now I'm thinking "should I buy the Kana or the Kinzu v2 Pro", I understand that both have a problem, but which of the 2 has the lesser problem?Which one should I buy Kana or v2 Pro?

[OranJuno]

@tempestpesh

I don't have the Kinzu V2 to test against, unfortunately, to be able to answer your question.

According to the SteelSeries website, and what I've heard, the Kinzu V2's sensor has been more tailored toward high sensitivity gamers, especially RTS gamers. The Kana being better for lower sensitivity gamers, as it has a much higher malfunction/perfect-control speed, basically meaning you can move the mouse much faster before weird things happen.

I haven't confirmed it though

[tempestpesh]

@OranJuno At what speed of movement does the bug appear in the Kana? I'm a CS player with a relatively low sensitivity, will it affect me that much? Also, do the drivers matter that much, from personal experience I've witnessed mice going worse when their drivers are installed, and if I buy the Kana, I don't think I'll install them.

[Jipzorowns]

@OranJuno

Does the kinzu v2 have prediction?

[Chillehhhh]

@tempestpesh get a xai you wont be disapointed ive had mine for a year+ it was so worth paying 90 bucks for it

[tempestpesh]

@Chillehhhh I'd like to think about my options and carefully choose, at the moment I'm considering in buying a Kinzu v2 pro, since that's the model that I found the least amount of negative comments.

[Chillehhhh]

@tempestpesh well do you want to go without the side buttons for browsing and such and the texture of the mouse, i heard that the kinzuv2 make your hands sweaty

[Pjcricket]

Amazing review dude!

[stevng0]

How did you get the KANA?

[flocheman]

I find it a bit small, is it comfortable for someone who s got big hands ?

[krameriffic]

Sweet Jesus those mice sound like nails on a chalkboard on that Icemat.

[PerformMovies]

Im gonna buy a new mouse, but should i buy Sensei or Xai? Now that the "Kana" is on the marked it made it more harder to choose.. I really like the grip on the Xai..

[elvandar187]

The plural of mouse is mice btw :)

[skaterobban]

why do SS keep releasing mice with prediction. fucking retards. still got my xai its great but id like to try a pred free optical mouse.

[VanillaCracker]

you're pretty awesome man, keep the good shit up.

[sKarmA115]

how loud is the scroll wheel on the kana? I have the xai and it's irritating as hell...

[OranJuno]

@sKarmA115

The Kana's wheel is quite a bit quieter than the Xai's, but remember from the video, the buttons are a lot louder. ymmv

[allanpogs11]

@OranJuno have you tried the kana's rapid fire in fps? how did you configure it's rapid fire capability?

[sKarmA115]

@OranJuno sorry one more question regarding the wheel. is it smoother than the xai? my xai is kinda rickety and THAT is what is most irritating to me. it just seems cheaply made. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[1a2a3g]

What i would like to know is does this shit double click like the last 3 kinzus that i've had? Is steelseries going to take my mony and give me a crappy mouse again. i find it hard to trust them after ive wasted soo much money on them adn they all double click. Nice video, keep up the good work. I will buy the Kana if it duznt doble click.^^

[SuperWeedPower]

what the hell? your mouses seems scraped

[MrMayko17]

one questions? the last one its microsoft mouse 1.1 a black ?

[ripejak]

@MrMayko17

No it's a microsoft wheel mouse optical.This is a more affordable without the buttons on the side as the 1.1 and much smaller and less fat than the 1.1 he's got the same sensor than the 1.1 and explorer 3.0

[Assasin71]

mmm i have ss kinzu i prefer a lil heavy mouse eg krait

n kinzu is a lil bit small fr me. cant get a proper grip. sometimes.

so do u think kana is d mouse for me? :DD

[AiDz0r]

@OranJuno Before i was using the Microsoft Sidewinder, when i started using sensei, it felt like i was skipping pixels and like there were no acceleration. Though im used to it now.

[AiDz0r]

@OranJuno Could you please test this on 9HD if it happens or not, if you didn't understand i could demonstrate it and upload a video.

[AiDz0r]

@OranJuno and if you lift the mouse like a cm or so as your gripping, with the tip of your fingers just lift it a little bit and try the same movement you would see it would track much much better. Steelseries support said that to clean my mouse and my mousepad. Where as they are just recently purchased and brand new and not dirty at all. I've also tried it on my friends Sensei same thing. This doesn't even happen to an ordinary mouse. Its annoying when your trying to get accurate shots.

[AiDz0r]

@OranJuno I've contacted SteelSeries support about this issue on my Sensei. Windows 6/11, 900CPI, 1 Freemove @ 1000HZ poll rate, and %22ExactLift, (other config like accl. set to 0). I'm using a SteelSeries QcK mousepad. And my problem is if you try to draw a circle in paint, but grip the mouse tight and move it like a millimeter~ or more and try to draw a circle. You would realise that the mouse moves but it doesn't track.

[BitchmenProduc]

Kinzu heavy and large?? how the? For me Kinzu is like a little toy, i hate it, and it is so light, when i bought it, i imediatly just wanted to sell it to someone.

[obiwN]

TTTTHHHHHAAAAAANNNNNKKKKKKK YOU!

I've been googling "Steelseries Kana Review" almost everyday. AND finally! :D

[davidsveningsson]

Nice vid!

I think the Kana looks amazing but I have not bought it yet because i have not heard anything about if there are problems with the sensor. (I have not heard anything at all). Does Kana have prediction/angle snapping or pos/neg acceleration?

[OranJuno]

@davidsveningsson

People keep asking about the sensor, and I don't really want to do a review without solid information, but from my anecodotal tests, there does appear to be some prediction, but not as bad as I've seen.

There is very little acceleration, but if I swipe VERY quickly, it does become a bit inconsistent. In actual playing, I haven't noticed acceleration though with my sensitivity, which is of course, good news.

Sorry I can't be more helpful at this point.

[davidsveningsson]

@OranJuno Okey, thanks anyway.

[FrontIiner]

Helicopter in your room.

[HynDroZe]

Kana is amzing!

[pinfuim]

great review man!

i want to buy kana so what mousepad you think i should use? say names or just types. thanks (;

[OranJuno]

@pinfuim

with the default mouse feet, I'd suggest a hard pad like a rough func pad or the 4HD/9HD.

Get some corepads or other skates to make it more suitable for cloth.

[muwajy]

@OranJuno is there kana mousefeet from corepad?

[OranJuno]

@muwajy

Skates made for the Kinzu should work with the Kana if companies haven't started making skates marketed toward the Kana.

[SianZTheLoner]

wad is a jump bug?

[quake4tt]

awesome vid!!

[bassist13]

That was well done and quite informative, I really do hope that SS fixes the jump bug in future.

[Elementalflames1]

nice review

[BandosGodDragon]

Finnaly a new vid :D

[OranJuno]

@BandosGodDragon

I didn't know people were waiting...

[BandosGodDragon]

@OranJuno You serious? I was waiting for a vid for months!