Mazdaspeed 6 VS STI (ecutek,3'' DP + exhaust, 20psi)

[dooderek]

OH HAI DSMLUCK MSF FTWW

[dawg1414]

How much horsepower is that speed6 with all the mods

[dawg1414]

how much horsepower is the speed6 with all the mods?

[JohnnyVichi]

hey parles tu francais jaurai des questions sur ta MS6

[tchip4]

hahaha they both shift at exactly the same time

[mocapman]

I wouldn't really classify, a sti as stock since the body (hoodscoop, and wing), turbo, and exhaust, and brakes. Are actually after market already. I could buy a stock car and supercharge or turbo it myself, and add headers, a sway bar, upgrade the brakes. But then it wouldn't be stock anymore. Look at a 350Z you can add nismo upgrades for it. Scions you have many trd upgrades available from the dealer, doesn't have to be added on at the factory.

[themantouf]

what should i get speed 3 or 6 fwd vs awd 3 as a better look but yea fwd ...

[gec2007]

imprezas are just ugly... im sorry

[JDMjody]

noice.

[wolf1010]

MS6 is a great car, problem is its weight. Something like 3500lbs I believe. Still would love to have one.

[punkrcker369]

As a speed6 owner stock for stock the sti is a little faster but not by much and once you start to mod speed6 will rule sti's 100mph+. As far as speed6 vs evo, even though the speed isn't rally the speed is a fucking EVO KILLER straight up. I have driven evo VIII's, evo IX's, evo IX mr's, evo X's and evo X m'rs. The only evo that can even some what compare is an evo IX mr and even so they aren't that impressive. As far as the evo X's mitsubishi fucked themselves over because they suck ass.

[0988509885]

Wow, most of the comments below are pretty hilarious and dim witted at best.

[serhobbs]

ms6 looks way better and almost just as fast

[fuskyboy]

haha the comments below are funny aas helll

[MarkySTi]

seriously guys !!

the STi that you see in this video is mine !! on that video, I was completly stock with a axel back and a BOV !!

Now a got like 400 hp in it ...

But a STi stock with an aggressive launch is very fast ... NO FWD or RWD ROAD CAR can be faster then that on 1st gear !!!

with my STi stock i was making 1.61 on a 60 feet at the 1/4 mile !! i never saw a FWD or RWD do that since REAL DRAG CAR !!!

[baltimorefixed]

@MarkySTi

first of all, catback isn't stock. second of all, i call bullshit...lets see your stock 1.6 60ft timeslip. I'm not denying the STI is faster than the MS6, cause it is, but come on...

[MarkySTi]

@baltimorefixed

when you put only a catback with and BOV on a car and you didn't tune it !! that give you nothing !! just some sound !! i was runing 13.1 with my car in 2008-9

[Dylan2cool4u]

The independent people who did the 0-60 said that the ms6 actually ran from a 5.0-4.5 I think...

[ranacherian]

6 for life.,.,.

[MarkySTi]

i think it was me LAST YEAR ... because there a fog cover missing !!

the problem is that my STi was completly stock with a TBE and BOV Turbo XS RFL

[werkroks]

Stock huh?

[IKE5327]

so the 6 is stock?

[jmanny666]

i had enough im getting my ass a ms6

[phantomspeed3]

fucking right doggie! speed 6 is the way to go

[aradoncic53]

MPS6 OWNZZZZZZZ, good race, driver in the speed6 was a tad more experienced, and thats what resulted in a win, dont get me wrong im a speed6 owner =), but sti is fast its lighter by a few hundred, take a few hundred of the speed6 , and we will own fukin lambos my friend =)

[wise185]

i agree with you zero, the MSP6 resembles the new trend in rally cars. if you follow the WRC the new rally cars are all 4 sedans that weigh about 2900lbs with modifications to suspension, computer system, etc. but when compared to the street going econo box version there isnt a huge difference. ofcourse all WRC rally cars have 100 opoun 100 of hours of R&D and have a strengthend frame and fully rollcages that expand into the trunk and engine compartment.

[zeroflat24]

mazdaspeed6s are like the poor lost cousin of the rally cars. while evos and STIs have been fighting it out for years, everyone else forgets the mazda is even there. they are relatively cheap, and obviously less powerful. Evo/STI>mazdaspeed

[motondska]

and that's why the STi just lost...

[zeroflat24]

i was speaking of stock evos/STIs vs speed6s. obviously any car can be made to be faster than another car.

[veltpak6]

you're an idiot for thinking the mazdaspeed6 was ever made to be a rally car... fucking ricers

[zeroflat24]

your right, it was never made to be a rally car, but its 2 "closest" rivals are rally cars. fucking ricers

[veltpak6]

there is a clear difference between B and C segment vehicles. C segmenters being larger, heavier more appointed touring cars, not rattle-cage rally cars, not even close. Every AWD car out there cant be 'close rivals' to rally dogs like evo and impreza, that's riceboy logic

[zeroflat24]

an audi a4, is a touring car. a CTS is a touring car. a mazda 6 is closer to a sports sedan than it is a touring car. ive driven dozens of mazda 6s speeds and base models. they are just as much of a "rattle box" as a lancer and impreza.

[rapter222]

wow, shows how much you driven one, its MAZDA SPEED 6 you idiot not mazda 6 speed.

and lancer and impreza is not a sports sedan iether, its called sport compact.

A MSP 6 is a luxury sports car, and is what a real man would drive.

lancer and impreza are fun to drive but there more of a boy toy, not enough room.

[zeroflat24]

quite the opposite. a lancer and an impreza is a sports sedan, you know 4 doors = sedan. a sport compact would be a civic SI, hundai tiburon GT, Mitsubishi Eclipse (compact = 2 doors). i have driven many mazda speed 6s and lancers (own an 04 STi) there is little if any difference in space. and a real man doesnt care about items to make him comfy. he is about performance. not making sure he is comfortable in his luxury sedan after getting his nails done.

[rapter222]

Actually THERE IS A BIG DIFFERANCE in space.

dude look up specs before you talk.

lik ei said if you sat in a speed 6 you would know.

I have sat in a STI and even sold a WRX to my friend, and the speed 6 has WAY more room.

im 6 foot 4 and i can not fit into the back of a STI. it might as well be a 2 seater.

back leg room for STI= 33"

back leg room for speed 6= 36.5"

Overall lenght of STI=175.8"

overall lenght of Speed 6= 186.8"

dude i dont know about you but that is a HUGE DIFFERANCE!

[zeroflat24]

dude you can list all the specs you want. but i have driven a dozen MS6s and riden in one probably 100 times because my buddies owns one. there isnt that much of a difference. your talking 3.5 inches. a huge difference in space would be like comparing an STi to a buick. MS6s arent that much bigger.

[rapter222]

wow you really are clue less 3.5" is alot in cars, its not gonna be 2 FEET. lol. hahha.

thats 9 cm dude. and ITS ALOT in the world of cars. hahah you think a buick is gonna be that much bigger. dude the msp6 is almost a WHOLE foot longer. do you have any idea what that is.

thats the differance of when i sit in the back of a STI my kness touch the back of the seat, when i sit in the back of a speed 6 IM 3 inches away from touching the back seat. other wise NICE AND COMFY.

[rapter222]

sti is an Impreza which in the class of a mazda 3 honda civic and toyota corrolla, the mazda 6 or speed 6 is in the class of a Subaru LEGACY, that what i was looking for a legacy or a speed 6. THOSE are in the same class, not a sti.

[zeroflat24]

dude do you want me to show you a copy of my registration? i clearly states SDN which means sedan. if it were a compact it would say CP for coupe/compact. sti's are sports sedans, legacys are luxury sedans. and about the size thing, you can say whatever you want. its your opinion. i still say (at 6'2 180lbs) that there isnt any noticable difference to me. obviously your extra 2 inches must mean its torture for you to ride in one. personally i think your just full of shit. but hey, what do i know

[rapter222]

no your right it isnt a coupe i never said that, i did say compact, and thats technically not right iether, its a small sedan.

And if you think im full of shit you can keep thinking, it has nothing to do with opinion, its a FACT, the sped 6 is much larger than a STI, "FACT". the speed 6 is ALMOST ECXCATLY the same size as the SUBARU Legacy, so that means your saying the STI and legacy are the same size. even all my buddies say there is no room in the back. the speed 6 is a luxury sports car.

[phantomspeed3]

too bad speed6's stomp sti's, legacy's are an embarrassing awd turbo lol

[AVID526]

sti is a impreza awd turbo.....wow

[phantomspeed3]

oh really? i didn't know that...NO FUCKING SHIT ITS AWD TURBO god your fucking stupid if you read what i replied to you would know what i was talking about, the kid was comparing the legacy gt to the speed6 saying they are in the same category, i was saying the speed6 stomps sti's so they shouldn't be in the same category as the legacy gt because that car can barely beat a maxima, if it even could, i doubt it could, read before you try and talk shit on someone dumbass

[yz250rida74]

youre a fuckin idiot, ms6's never shit on stis unless the sti is stock the the speed has shit done to it. speed 6's are slow as shit which is why they stopped making it n focus more on the speed 3 cuz the speed 3 is way better in all aspects, better looking, faster, n it was designed wayyy better. theres no way that a ms6 is better than an sti though, sti's are built really well n when done correctly theyre fast as shit

[specvsentra1]

Seriously are you mentally handicapped? Because if you think the Speed 3 is better you've suffered a recent head injury. Dipshit the speed3 is FWD the speed6 is AWD, Now AWD is much better you should know this unless you're a complete fucking retard.

[specvsentra1]

Secondly it was dumped probably due to sales and cost to manufacture considering with some mild work these cars hit over 300 to the wheels pretty easily. Also you do know a STi weighs in at around 4k pounds right? STi's are boats as well so please for future posts pull your head out of your ass before commenting. Thank you. BTW this is all to yz250rida74.

[yz250rida74]

last time i checked FWD vehicles walk all over AWD vehicles in races and if you check stats, sti's have faster 0-60 times than the speed 6 because ITS FASTER. numbers dont lie pal, so why dont you get your head out of your ass. ik the speed 3 is FWD which is why its better, the speed 6 is slow a shit mazde speed 3 0-60 is around 5.5, speed 6 around 6, sti around 4.5-4.7. if you dont believe me check car and driver. cant argue facts here pal.

[specvsentra1]

yz please stop posting here if you think FWD is better you obviously don't know shit about cars. If anything RWD is better hense why more and more performance oriented cars are RWD... Both of them weren't stock dipshit obvioulsy the STI would be faster because it weighs slightly less and has 25 more at the crank so it has slightly more to the wheels.. Now modded is a completely different story. Once again please pull your head out of your ass before trying to talk to adults.

[yz250rida74]

okay this is something we can come to an agreement about, although the only downfall to RWD is that the power has to go through the car as opposed to all the wheels pushing the power or the front wheels dragging it. but from a roll FWD is better cuz it involves less work to get the speed to build due to the fact that the power has to go through the car... and for the record i am also an adult.

[specvsentra1]

Well for the record you have the knowledge of racing/cars of a 5 year old. Anyone in to racing will tell you AWD and RWD are the best. This could explain why companies such as Subaru strictly use AWD and why some of the fastest vehicles on the street are RWD and AWD. IE Porsche 911 GT, NSX, Audi S4.. Seriously please stop talking out of your ass your just making yourself look like even more of a idiot.

[yz250rida74]

aight whatever fuckin no it all faggot im not arguing with you over the internet its fuckin rediculous. i went to school for this shit so idk ow youre gunna argue with me considering all you do with your life is sit on the computer n believe everything you read about cars

[specvsentra1]

Read? Hahaha I've driven all platforms I worked with guys that "went to school for cars" and they didn't know shit either the only reason they graduated is because they could memorize the text book they didn't learn shit just like you. You just had your knowledge crushed in a few simple paragraphs and became butt hurt. So stop talking out of your ass.

[yz250rida74]

oooh good one faggot, 1. i highly doubt that, 2. they probably dont own half of a performance shop as i do with my buddy who has an 08 ms3, and 3. you didnt crush anything in any amount of paragraphs n idk how you think you did but id love for you to continue arguing how AWD is better than FWD in a rolling race. first of all the ms6 has the same engine as the ms3 in a HEAVIER SEDAN, so right off the bat its slower than the ms3 and idk how you think an ms6 can be faster than an sti

[specvsentra1]

Wow I feel sorry for whoever gets work done at your shop.. Where's it at? I need to be sure to tell people to avoid it unless they want some half assed haynes reading grease monkey working on their car. Man you have just proven to be the biggest joke on here lol

[yz250rida74]

at all considerin the sti is faster from the factory and if you mod it it becomes faster as does any car but a stage 3 sti vs stage 3 ms6 the sti will come out on top all day. a stage 3 srt-4 will rape a stage 3 sti all day as would any RWD car for that matter i wasnt saying RWD sucks just that its less economical and a poor way to distribute power unless its from a dig in which case RWD is best

[yoman2002]

RWD best at dig, haha.

[sumkidd]

@yz250rida74 well obviously ur school made u crooked

[kevinreid]

dont mean to be a dick but 3,200 is a huge way off of 4,000 as for boats its really not a big car at all!

[specvsentra1]

Not to be a dick but the STi is 3200 and the Speed 6 3600.

[kevinreid]

tell me something i dont know

[joberk3]

@specvsentra1 You're an idiot. The STi weighs 3340 full tank w/o driver. 3300 would be conservative. Maybe one of the first model STis weighs 3200. Over the years, they've only been putting on weight.

[AVID526]

@phantomspeed3 haha just read this and it was towards the guy before you haha in response to him saying legacy and sti are the same size

[ryukenosuke]

WRX is an impreza AWD turbo. The STI is the top production model of the WRX with more mods, better suspension, more fine tuning, etc.

[jakubgt1]

Not stock, and if that STI was running with the same mods, it would have been a whole new story.

[rollajoc96]

STIs are like the size of a newer corolla, too narrow and barely in leg room in the back. Besides that subies tend too have cheap and goofy looking interiors. Other then that they are amazing cars.

[zeroflat24]

have you been in a corolla and an STi? i have probably driven 500 corollas in my years of wrenching and my STi has way more leg room. im 6'2 and about 220 lbs and i fit in it perfectly. New STi interiors are very nice. but the thing your failing to recognize is people dont buy STis because they want a snazy interior. they buy it because the car performs better than all (but 1 - evo) in its price range.

[razioth]

@veltpak6 indeed its a luxury sports sedan :D

i love it so much

the interior is MUCH nicer and more confortable than the STi

it competes with the Legacy GT not the STi

[vdubjetta02]

@razioth luxury, i think not. This not an Audi, BMW or Benz

sports sedan yes

[razioth]

@vdubjetta02 Yes it is, it competes with Audi A4's (sports-line), BMW 3-series, etc.

Look at the nice leather interior and the functionnalities, equipment etc. and then come back

by the way I was not hating @ the STi, I love STi's and EVO's they're amazing cars!

I was just pointing the fact that the mazda is more luxury-oriented than the STI (pure sports-sedan), hence the

Luxury-sports sedan

[gec2007]

@veltpak6 its all wheel drive bro...

[andrew1501]

@veltpak6 agreed. i love mazda, i love the disi engine, i have a 3 myself, but the awd system of the speed 6 is garbage. would i take it over fwd? yes, but in comparison to either the evo's awd system or the subaru's "awd" system, it lacks the credentials to be considered a "rally" car.

[ShawnSubaru]

Damn man that was a good run!

[bennychan723]

love to see spee6 beat STi and EVO....go speed6

[razioth]

@bennychan723 To accomplish that kind of performance, the mazda needs a big turbo upgrade, and it's a shame the MZR engine is very fragile concerning these kind of mods.

I am planning to buy a speed6 but I am definitely not gonna put on a bigger turbo.

I should stick with exhaust/intake/ECU tuning mods

[JtownandWillieville]

@razioth

you should really look into it, there is a stock block ms6 that is pushing over 400 whp. A lot of rods were being bent early on because of tuning and not having adequate fueling. Go to MSF.org to check it out. The engine isn't as fragile as you think. You just have to be smart with your modding.

[thegarbageman21]

@razioth the speed 6 can very easily / safely make 320whp. But you are right once you start pushing that the risk increases significantly. It is a great car and after a while you realize that fun > speed. I wanted an Evo so bad but now im happy with my speed 6. Not as fast but looks much better, more unique (pretty rare), more comfortable, cheaper, etc.

[dsmluck]

@thegarbageman21 There are people on the stock internals at 450+ whp daily driven. How did you arrive at 320hp?

[thegarbageman21]

@dsmluck in a speed 6? Please show me evidence of that. I browse forums frequently and have never seen a speed 6 at 450whp on stock block. My 320whp speed 6= FMIC, full intake, full exhaust, cobb ap custom tuned are my power mods.

[dsmluck]

@thegarbageman21 There are MS3 a@ 450+ whp. I was stating that the internals have held to nearly 500 whp. That's still much more than the 320whp you are pushing in the MS6. No one has actually found the upper limit of the MZR engine but I am sure people are getting close.

There is a MS6 in the 11's now but I don't know how much hp he is pushing.

[thegarbageman21]

@dsmluck Well the internals have never been the "factor" contributing to all the blown speed's in the quest for power. The community has long known that the internals aren't that weak. The reason the cars blow is because of the low rpm torque spikes. Most people blow up during normal daily driving. There are some crazy speeds out there but generally speaking we haven't found a way to consistently / safely make 400+ whp. Not like an evo / sti ... I was the 11 second vid and it was awesome. 

[WeekendWarrior1210]

Congrats, but I HAVE YET TO SEE A STOCK CAR beat an STi. A car with no modifications, just from the dealership. I have never seen it because most of the cars on the street cant.

[P5FREEK]

im not stock ;) i have a gt3076R @ 20 psi , front mount and more..

[unincideal]

@P5FREEK ausome andy you barley beat an sti

[drewce123]

yeah well sti's pretty much come with all race ready

[bennychan723]

u crazy.....man....W/O turing ..how the fuck to beat sti...

[106chimunk]

I have gto does

[ADD8oi]

@WeekendWarrior1210 well now the 2011 GT can for a few grand less too, it actually smokes all cars in its class

[Nemeancb]

@WeekendWarrior1210 I guess you've never seen an sti race a C5 zo6, or heaven forbid it try a c6 z06.

[ldom4life]

@WeekendWarrior1210 nissan gt-r

[wowshiqptar]

@WeekendWarrior1210 the sti still won

[shintastic48]

@WeekendWarrior1210 I can name you a ton of cars that beat a stock STi...

[Malikot911]

@shintastic48 a ton? ok... start naming!

[shintastic48]

@Malikot911 he only said stock cars. so that's a shit load... GTR, E92 M3, M5, M6, Evo X, Evo X FQ360, Evo X FQ400, Evo IX FQ400, subaru's own 320R, Lexus ISF, Lexus LFA, M3 CSL, M3 GTR, Benz C63 AMG, C65 AMG, SLK, SLS AMG, CLS, SLR McLaren, McLaren F1, McLaren MP4-12c, Lambo Gallardo, Gallardo SuperLeggera, Gallardo LP570, Murcielago, Murcielago LP640, Murcielago LP670 SV, Aventador, Jaguar XKR, XKRs, Aston Martin DBS, DB9, One-77, V12 Vantage, V8 Vantage, Audi RS4, RS5, RS6... can i stop now?

[Malikot911]

@shintastic48 lol yes u can stop now.. I was messing around! but definitely yeah..

[shintastic48]

@Malikot911 Don't get me wrong. I love STi's. But for the price i'd rather spend the extra 4 grand on a Evo because they are better on tarmac and look a hell of a lot better. Also buying a WRX and spending the money saved on parts. I've got a bunch of friends who could afford STi's but bought WRX's and upgraded them with the money they were going to use with the STi. Lets just say there WRX's make a stock STi look like a joke.

[Malikot911]

@shintastic48 yeah tottaly agree with you there.. wrx starts at 25k... thats alot cheaper than stis... im trying to find a dealership near me that has a wrx for sale . im ready to trade my scion tC for one.... if not ill just have to buy a brand new wrx !

[shintastic48]

@Malikot911 Or wait and get the FT-86. Basically a Subaru, uses a Subaru 2.5L Boxer 4 cylinder engine, Subaru chassis, Toyota drivetrain, just branded under the Scion name? Not sure what it will be in the US. I live in Japan so it will be under the Toyota name.

[Malikot911]

@shintastic48 oh i know exactly what youre talking about.. it will be called scion FR S in the US but toyota else where.. but thats a rearwheel drive.. i would really love to have one but i want a wrx because of its awd too... i live in a place where winter is worst of the worst...

[shintastic48]

@Malikot911 "Toyota Drivetrain" = RWD. But if you have harsh winters it would make sense. I'm sort of interested in getting a FT-86 when it comes out here in Japan. They look really nice. And they drive well on GT5 lol

[Malikot911]

@shintastic48 oh wow u live in japan? thats nice .. i should have just moved there instead of US from the philippines haha.. but that car definitely sounds fun to drive i hope they make it exaclty as the displays lol

[crablord]

im amazed at how close that was. i love the ms6, but am familiar with the reputation of the sti. thats a good driver!

[JasonSacco1]

I would just like to no what the guy has done to it. It says something about 20 psi is that on stock turbo or what.... ?

[P5FREEK]

its a gt3076R @ 20psi , with front mount intercooler , 3'' exhaust & DP !!

[JasonSacco1]

Thank you is it your i was one of the first with the car and i love it i just like change. And like to stay moving foward. Maybe a 335i next no shore.

[P5FREEK]

yes its mine!! i beat the sti but it was a close race.. 335 is not bad but not that fast for the price u pay.. im in canada so here its like 70 000$

[cantonboy77]

I definitely agree. The twin-turbo 6 is a sweet engine but as with many imports, you pay a fat price just for a name. The speed6 is quite a deal in terms of comfort, looks, performance and practicality. I can go on a long road trip, sail along at 120 and step out of the car feeling refreshed and not beat to death like in say an STI.

[Disaster646]

idk wtf are u trying to say.. but subarus are really comfortable.. i drive mine 24/7.. and never had a neck pain or some shit like that.. even ppl who own evos.. which i've read so many reviews of magazines and crap saying that evos suck for long trips.. the owners never complain..

[IairbusI]

@P5FREEK 335 in canada are 55 000$

[mauroelf]

how win?

[Nasutko]

Wow the MS6 had him through 3 gears off the line not bad. I own a MS6 and I gotta say that impressed me. STI's have 30 more hp and weight a few hundred pounds less stock.

[philbrownell05]

Driver is always the key factor in a race between 2 cars this close. Different drivers would = different results.

[jnby78]

Does ne1 know if auto exe makes the only strut bar for the speed6 or if you can put a mazda6 strut bar on it cuz i heard that it wont fit cuz the intercooler is in the way thank for the replys.

[smokersix]

Strut bars are a waste of money on our cars...

[drewce123]

whys that :0?

[2slovak0]

why do people buy cars that have potential and think they are the shit when they can't even drive. Props to the MS6. Wanna go againts my 07 STi??

[reminiz1]

no the ms6 didnt win... look closely ppl...

[veltpak6]

then how does he get the light over his lane? moron. go turn up your vtech!!

[myfiftybucks]

ha ha fuckin a right

[azmazdaspeed3]

It looked like the sti got the ms6 off the line, but the ms6 looked like he won the foot race after 0-60. Not by much, but just enough lol...

[azmazdaspeed3]

I enjoyed watching this. It was short, but it was close.

[BulletproofMonk]

For some of you people, that MS6 is not stock......... thanks.

[raywong01]

Speed6s with some Mods are fast. I saw one smoking a Mustang GT onramp to a freeway.

[SpeedR34]

Yeah they are! They're pretty fast stock too, I think that they can beat a stock mustang in the quarter mile.

[cantonboy77]

I'll attest to that. I own a speed6 and slap down mustang GT's all the time, old or new. I read the responses on these forums all the time and it's alway clear who doesn't know what they are talking about when it comes to the speed6's. These cars are sleepers, largely unknown, They do need 93 octane to run like they are supposed to. Stock speed6 drivers get in the 13's on the 1/4 and moderate mods will get you 12s. Fact of the matter is...they are quite fast AND have some class/style.

[Bv10111987]

there is no freakin way mazdaspeed6 can beat sti.Sti is the best will own but the driver is suckkkkkkkkkkkkk

[Black91SR20DE]

videos dont lie

[Teeth2BrainStyle]

thats right trade your AWD import for a front wheel drive fagmobile dodge neon.

[Teeth2BrainStyle]

0-60 STI, quarter mile STI, to 150mph, MS6 for the win. after 100mph, the STI is dumb, and ask any real driver, the fun starts after 100mph, not some track where you can show off your hood scoops. the MS6 was designed to compete with EUROS, at autobahn speeds. and to be a civilized and luxurious sleeper around town. that STI wing tooootally adds like 50 hp broseph! Give the MS6 an intake, exhaust, a blow off valve, and a boost controller and you can kill anything you want for under $40,000

[sgtsbre]

STi's suck if that video is true. It had mods and the ms6 was stock. That's y I'm gonna go for the MS6 it can beat mostly anything on the road.

[josh1josh1josh1]

shut up, i have an sti, believe me that car would not keep up, with mostly any car. People dont try comparing all other cars to sti's, becuase sti's are crap cars

[jrasubi127]

retard.sell your subaru you dont deserve to own one.buy an srt4

[samsonov187]

mazdaspeed6 is way better than speed 3 and better than STI when you compare price for performence...40k about for speed6 and 50k for STI atleast so put 10k on your motor and BYE BYE SUBARU!!

[ChristianM17]

new sti is 34K...

MS6 BASE is 30K...

It's not anyone's fault when u went to buy your MS6, the dealership charged you 10K+ over MSRP

[samsonov187]

lol stupid noob im talking in canadian dollars....

[samsonov187]

was talking @ christianM17 ...even in american dollar ok 4k get 4k on your motor still pass a stock STI so take ur seat and stfu.

[FrankGod]

en passant check ton taux de change mec .. ya pu grand difference!!!

[samsonov187]

oui ok mais lannée passé tu pouvais en acheter pis cetais environ des cest prix la 40000$ canadien pis une STI c quoi? aumoin 50 fack on caliss du taux de change la STi est plus cher pareille..

[deepsinK]

I could've bought a MS6 off the lot for 21k but didn't. You are highly mistaken my friend.

[legacyturboguyin253]

That is a bunch of crap That mazda has a exhaust my brother has a mazdaspeed and it sounds like a vacumm with the stock exhaust. Race them stock for stock and see what happens to that MPS6

[levackboy]

I have a Speed6. Yes the STi is a better track car...no doubt. But all around car with performance, comfort and price considered the STi gets slaughtered. Trust me, if I wanted a car that costs over 50 G's and has no back seat I would've bought a Corvette Z06. You can't argue that a Z06 will blow the doors off anything else on the road...save HIGHLY moded cars.

[06sterling]

You are undeniably correct about the superior launch. I was just commenting to comment really. Not to start something. Anyway you started out banging the Speed6, and praising the STI, but now you like the Speed6 better than my Speed3. I dunno what happening there. Anyway i'm not downing the 6 at all. I'm mazda enthusiast through and through. And if the STI did'nt ring in at the same as the down payment on my mortgage, well i'd have a Speed3 and STI. Cheers!

[nuspinesteven]

yeah yeah, the 6 got the launch and the sti reeled him in. sti is so much greater than the 6 it isnt even funny

[06sterling]

Sure it's funny. What's better yet is the Speed3 is faster than the Speed6, and costs almost half of what an STI does.  :)

[nuspinesteven]

yeah, fwd for the loss. torque steer is gay

[06sterling]

No torque steer my friend. It's quite nice.

[nuspinesteven]

is it really? mazdaspeed6 will kill the 3 out of the hole, so the 6 is the better car for the strip IMO

[BulletproofMonk]

I don't think you have a speed3 if you say you have no torque steer. Either that or you haven't really launched your car. I have a speed6 and I've driven a friend's speed3 and test driven the speed3 at a dealer as soon as it came out. That thing had heavy torque steer. and it's slower than the Speed6 in the 1/4 FYI

[06sterling]

the fact that none of my previous cars have had anything north of 135bhp means that I've never really been able to compare two cars both with torque steer and say one's more than the other. I've seen the MS3's potential and it's nothing unruly as i can tell. Maybe it does and It really does'nt register to me. Yes it'll snick on un even surfaces but that's really it. DSC on is so straight i can't imagine i'm just 'missing' it.

[BulletproofMonk]

Oh I know what you mean I'm not saying it's massive, but do you get on the car? Cause I'm pretty sure if you got on a 3k or 4k launch you would feel the steering wheel jerking back and forth left and right. That's what happened the first time I launched my friends MS3, wasn't ready for it, heh.

[slater442w30]

were they in 5th gear headed down to the store to get groceries?

[devnullwild]

is the sti stock?

[P5FREEK]

read the title my friend

[BlzzyE]

hahahahah what happend with da sti? probably didnt have engine hahahaha thats why I have a MAZDASPEED

[crazelot444]

mazda is doing their homework the mazdaspeed6 is bad ass

[sa8901]

good job bro.