That vid was absolutely stunning in 1994. I remember I was always excitecd when it came on VIVA (Club Rotation). Thanks for putting it on youtube. Now I can watch it every time.
An alle Kinder hier. Väth ist seit 80er ein DJ Gott und immer seiner Zeit voraus gewesen. Ob Off oder 16 Bit und später von ihm gegründerter Eye-Q Records. Von Omen und Dorian Gray will ich nichts erzählen, wer dabei war weiß worüber ich schreibe.
Zu dem Video, es ist ORIGINAL Video und seiner Zeit einer der teuersten überhaupt (damals hat einer noch Amiga 500 benutzt oder als High-End User gerade einen Pentium 200 MHz). Danke Sven dass ich Dich begleiten dürfte von dem Anfang an...
i d like to say to those underage ppl who clicked unlike that THIS TRACK MADE HISTORY, we used to stay sleepless to watch this on MTV night zone, so respect the elders and go deal with lady biebier or whatever it is
the best track of early trance at 1994, simple awesome electronics & and awesome Dj Sven Väth, ah i've almost forget, the video ... is amazing too, speaker horns, puppet and everything, i'm back into the sweet '90s
Ich hab Väth zum ersten mal 1987 live gesehen, zusammen mit OFF.
Das letzte Mal hab ich in 2008 gesehen.
Er war nie der brillianteste und technisch perfekteste Sänger, Tänzer oder DJ, aber eins isser auf alle Fälle: Die geilste Sau überhaupt, isser der Babba!!!
revolutionary clip imho. At that time 15years ago it was massive. Ppl were converting from rock/metal to techno for good after seeing that or Accident In paradice in Mtv.
100% copy? What are you talking about? Got a hold of Jungle High - Samurai and they were nothing alike. Maybe some similarity in the base line, but absolutely different sequences.
yeah! when this was released me and my party couldn't believe something like that is possible to produce! IT BLEW OUR MINDS, IT WAS CRAZY SHIT! :D in my opinion still the best elecronic album!
Damn, it still kicking ass, even after 15 years. You simply gotta love the freakin' sound from around 2:00 onwards. But remember: to achieve the maximum impact of this music the author recommends: listen to this... from the beginning to the end - without interruption!
From 2 minutes forward the synth leads are very reminiscent to early eastern oriented goa tracks, I can't really spot a big difference. I call it goa, you can call it what you want.
@uns3en Fuck Tiesto?!?!....How can you say that, fair enough I prefer techno to trance anyday but that doesnt mean you can write off the impact Tiesto has had on the Trance scene over the past ten years
I rembember when I saw this for the first time in 1994, I was like WOW...what a great clip...Impressive..then...DOUBLE WOW...what a great song! This was top notch computer animation back then people. Anything else but low budget but stunning. Just have a look at the (shitty) graphics of the mid '90s video games.
I saw sven DJ years ago at the Orbit Leeds. He was pissed outa his head and still delivered a blinding set although his mixing was worse than usual...he just kinda fades records together...IMO while swigging spirit from the bottle. I also seen him play some of the best nights of my life,with some amazing records and atmosphere, He was certainly one of the main guys at the time...Respect
Don't forget he's had quite a few collaborations over the years also, although there's always been some notable techno sensibility to his output - it's not all he's about. Which in many ways can also be said of AFX.
Let's be honest tracks like The Garden Of Linmiri can hardly be classed as 'ambient IDM' ... in the same way as Vath's output being called 'just techno'.
i like what i listen to to be interesting, fresh, and a little avant garde, not generic stuff that any geek with a laptop could cook up in his bedroom, if that makes me a "noob" then im fine with that. Ive a word or two that fit you perfectly as well.
like i said two djs of such vastly different genres cannot be compared, its apples and oranges.
its like comparing warhol with monet, or rather in this case, like comparing the guy who designed the campells soup label with monet.
Das waren die besten Zeiten überhaupt: irgendwo gab es immer illegale Techno / House - Parties an ungewöhnlichen Orten...und wir haben so manche Nacht bis zum nächsten Mittag darauf durchgefeiert...war eine schöne Zeit !
Und die Adressen der Partys musste man sich meistens über ominöse Telefonnummern besorgen. Dann fuhr man durch irgendwelche Käffer bis zu irgendwelchen Wäldern. Und dann irgendwo nach 2km Weldweg war da auf einmal was ...
Damn, I wanna go back to the 90s and rave the shit out of an underground club in Berlin! xD
whiterottenrabbit 4 weeks ago
I could swear that I had this in about1992?????
tpvalley 2 months ago
Crazy house music. live in Winnipeg and can't wait for your next set at The Oak.
winterpeger 3 months ago
LEGENDARY
RockandroIIer 4 months ago
i was young in 1994!
senemapari 4 months ago
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LakisFM1 7 months ago
i found myself listening to this masterpiece in repeat mode for many many hours!.......
(that was in the 90's , when it came out)
LakisFM1 7 months ago
misterious atmosphere, amazing video, very nice music
r4444n 7 months ago 3
oh, oh, oh, so genial
Nlc0o 7 months ago
watch?v=tzSOjQUtzF4
aviravivasev 8 months ago
this is one of ten best tracks in the '90 .. Papa Sven - techno God !!
nilayya1986 8 months ago
ARMIN VAN BUUREN MY BALLS!!! Sven Väth is the best!!!!
raptor22Tiquet 8 months ago 13
Savage
Need2airsoft 9 months ago
Rad im a harlyquinn too! Now back to keoki.
jugglehigh 9 months ago
the beauty and the beast and the ISDN of FSOL WAS MY FIRST TWO CDssssss.
mpampanis77 9 months ago
Pretty sure this isn't on Der Kalte FInger OST
drbobdobalina 9 months ago
Niiki - Stability Spot Cool Fastevil (4 Bootleg)
youtube.../watch?v=uInUTEok5NQ
Tnxxx
magijaMAK 9 months ago
Perfect,perfect,perfect. THX Sven!
atter76 9 months ago
möcht ich auch gern wissen was mit der elektronischen mukken passiert ist ?????
kaplato 10 months ago
Viva aus alten Tagen
FUCK MTV FUCK VIACOM!
shizehouse 10 months ago
feck me this takes me back Orbit Morley
1HawkWind1 11 months ago
diese zeit war magie,und sven der zauberer!diese musik war meine religion,und keine modewelle!eine überragende zeit!danke sven
68L 1 year ago 3
The Palace - Melbourne 1994. I endured a 6 hour set by this grand master while I fetched his drinks with his drink card. Great memory.
smutjunkie74 1 year ago
Club Rotation was shit. "Housefrau" or later "HouseTV" and the show "Trance"on Viva was the thing
Goafraggle1980 1 year ago
That vid was absolutely stunning in 1994. I remember I was always excitecd when it came on VIVA (Club Rotation). Thanks for putting it on youtube. Now I can watch it every time.
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jenemcmunnss 1 year ago
fuck tiesto
gavipk 1 year ago 57
evil tune... love it
grimkreaper 1 year ago
Damals wie heute, immer noch ein geiles Brett.
X1606 1 year ago
An alle Kinder hier. Väth ist seit 80er ein DJ Gott und immer seiner Zeit voraus gewesen. Ob Off oder 16 Bit und später von ihm gegründerter Eye-Q Records. Von Omen und Dorian Gray will ich nichts erzählen, wer dabei war weiß worüber ich schreibe.
Zu dem Video, es ist ORIGINAL Video und seiner Zeit einer der teuersten überhaupt (damals hat einer noch Amiga 500 benutzt oder als High-End User gerade einen Pentium 200 MHz). Danke Sven dass ich Dich begleiten dürfte von dem Anfang an...
doroslovo 1 year ago 2
epic tune. reminds me parties every Saturday. I also fuck off Tiesto...
papi14231 1 year ago
Sven Väth.....the godfather of electronic music
mitt1806 1 year ago
check abhouse!
tylutkistube 1 year ago
Epic, Classic, immortal... I still have it somewhere in the basement, on some cassette tape :P So many memories about this track and tgese times ;)
tresor78 1 year ago
epic tune...^^
SuperVerpeilt 1 year ago
<3<3<3
ultrabombigstyler 1 year ago
its is acid
vancounte 1 year ago
Perfect!!!
4lp3r81 1 year ago
just awesome
ultrabombigstyler 1 year ago
i d like to say to those underage ppl who clicked unlike that THIS TRACK MADE HISTORY, we used to stay sleepless to watch this on MTV night zone, so respect the elders and go deal with lady biebier or whatever it is
multinikg 1 year ago 3
Thanx a bunch dude for uploading this video I've been looking for years to retrieve ! :D
Tigrousauteur 1 year ago
Genius..
devilfisk 1 year ago
who made this video? Isnt it the same director/company who made videos of Yello "Bostich" (westbam rmx)? Silverhaze or smth like that?
woodyv00 1 year ago
Vath is the man
kamaakazi 1 year ago
Those were the times.... sven vaeth on harthouse and eye-q ....
sushbone 1 year ago
Cant stop loving this ;D
LocoEmote 1 year ago
this is the sven we know!!! takes me back, such a classic track,
PAZPERDEE 1 year ago
Basshunter and Tiesto are the biggest crap. *damn*
Tvewelyan 1 year ago
Ich liebe dieses Teil - was für Vibrations und dann diese Geile Video.
FwTechnic 1 year ago
boah, das is'n Boeller !!!
zokiblueeye 1 year ago
baaaaaaaaaaaaam !!!
omg, what happens to me D:
haa! this is sven vaeth, when he was in trance!
Nlc0o 1 year ago
reminds me on Kyrandia 3
psychonaut25 1 year ago
the best track of early trance at 1994, simple awesome electronics & and awesome Dj Sven Väth, ah i've almost forget, the video ... is amazing too, speaker horns, puppet and everything, i'm back into the sweet '90s
amorlombresias 1 year ago 6
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boring tune but incredible video
HeartMind999 1 year ago
@HeartMind999 Dude...You find this boring??? I ain't sayin' you're wrong but it's just i don't get it...:-)
JayGOS117 1 year ago 7
how can you say this song is boring???? O___o
AlEiNl0vE 1 year ago
mistrzostwo świata, trance + nastrój tak określano ten kawałek wtedy w czasopismach, fakt ma swój klimat i ta animacja...mniam
r4444n 1 year ago
Ahhh mid 90's computer animation.
Trancemaster2052 2 years ago 6
Mayday 2008 - this track opening with Väth
MannemaPaco 2 years ago 2
Amazing video and the tune!!
EFS55 2 years ago 2
Ich hab Väth zum ersten mal 1987 live gesehen, zusammen mit OFF.
Das letzte Mal hab ich in 2008 gesehen.
Er war nie der brillianteste und technisch perfekteste Sänger, Tänzer oder DJ, aber eins isser auf alle Fälle: Die geilste Sau überhaupt, isser der Babba!!!
moxxommoxxom 2 years ago 2
Legend :))
Mziqoski 2 years ago 2
Er war seiner Zeit vorraus
niederemser 2 years ago
naja, derzeit war er im strom, aber schon an der Spitze. Seiner zeit voraus? Würde ich nicht sagen...war damals die hochzeit der Bewegung.
PatagonianWarrior 2 years ago
revolutionary clip imho. At that time 15years ago it was massive. Ppl were converting from rock/metal to techno for good after seeing that or Accident In paradice in Mtv.
shapeshiftingLizard 2 years ago
FUCKING GENIUSSSSS...Top 5 all time!
durtysanchezdotcom 2 years ago 2
I LOVE THIS ONE!!
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MimiTheStoryTeller 2 years ago
Electronic classic. Proud to have been a part of that.
omen4k 2 years ago
Sven, dafür lieben wir Dich!
pu235 2 years ago 2
An accident in paradise :-)
1971Hofi 2 years ago
1994! This was the time when videos were artistic and music was awesome! One of the best of all time imho!
tjenahoj 2 years ago
it is so f.... good!
cierny 2 years ago
try Mind games as well as this one
MrSamuelhugo 2 years ago
Briliant track ,absolutely best for all time.
uzvarb 2 years ago 2
Looks like DMT trip:)
Sweet tune
preliudas 2 years ago
Track that changed Techno Music..
Patriot1389 2 years ago 33
@Patriot1389
Amen brother!
devilfisk 1 year ago
@Patriot1389 How?
burrorojo19 7 months ago
@burrorojo19
Becouse this and Spicelab was something different,out of Trance standard sound of standards of trance back in 94 ;)
Patriot1389 7 months ago
sven vath numero 1
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ShogaNinja 2 years ago
looks like sven made this track from another track and band called Jungle High-Samurai (1993) check this out... almost 100% copy :))
at out times same stuff with Ricardo Tobar- El sunset and Popofs - serenity. :))) and many many others
sven is god of techno, but it wuz surprise for me.
MrGoldJakeGreen 2 years ago
100% copy? What are you talking about? Got a hold of Jungle High - Samurai and they were nothing alike. Maybe some similarity in the base line, but absolutely different sequences.
Lobotomi28 2 years ago
evergreen album imo :)
nozdrvator 2 years ago
OMG that video and that tune are etched in my mind since back in the day. AWESOME!!!!
chipsticks11 2 years ago
The CGI for the videos of this album was ground breaking.
So was the music.
d0dge25 2 years ago
This is so awesome track !!!
3dimon3 2 years ago
Lovely memories!
Shrekdonkey1973 2 years ago 2
Wo die harten beats erklingen und die bässe in dich dringen,
wo der boden ist am beben und SVEN VÄTH und GAYLE SAN auflegen,
wo das licht die sonne blendet
und der tag voll sorgen endet,
wo die schranzer voll abgehn und die druffies schlümpfe sehn,
wo alle sorgen sind so fern,
ja da bin ich immer gern
hoffen87 2 years ago 3
...und der tag voll sorgen endet?
hä?
CommandanteBratwurst 2 years ago
Sven Väth the godfather of techno
iLoveBeerMyDear 2 years ago 2
This was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiaiaiaiyyy ahead of time back then when it was released!!!
Graviton0815 2 years ago 5
agreed. and still sounds great after 15 years!!
Passskal 2 years ago
yeah! when this was released me and my party couldn't believe something like that is possible to produce! IT BLEW OUR MINDS, IT WAS CRAZY SHIT! :D in my opinion still the best elecronic album!
thanilche 2 years ago 2
Ahh, there it is! :-)
Man, I just love this ass kicking track. Is there any chance of uploading the whole album?
whiterottenrabbit 2 years ago
WTF? Why the hell is this video no longer available? Yesterday it was right here! >:-/
whiterottenrabbit 2 years ago
Damn, it still kicking ass, even after 15 years. You simply gotta love the freakin' sound from around 2:00 onwards. But remember: to achieve the maximum impact of this music the author recommends: listen to this... from the beginning to the end - without interruption!
whiterottenrabbit 2 years ago
In HQ pleaseeee!!
excellent video for a excellent track!!!!
yvar77 2 years ago 2
excellent track
deepsapphyr 3 years ago
Great! Thanks a lot for this classic gem of electronic music!
kultahh 3 years ago
Possibly the only goa trance track from Väth. I really like it.
teknopupilli 3 years ago
that isn't goa!
corelgott 3 years ago
From 2 minutes forward the synth leads are very reminiscent to early eastern oriented goa tracks, I can't really spot a big difference. I call it goa, you can call it what you want.
teknopupilli 3 years ago
definate goa feel to this one
funkspasm 3 years ago
isn`t it techno ?
BiuLByanca 2 years ago
90's!!!!
junkiejunkiexl 3 years ago
What happened to electronic music? Fuck Basshunter/Tiesto ...
uns3en 3 years ago 58
basshunter? lol
Redooce 3 years ago
well its only posers now...its music for middleclass "normal" people...it's not about going wild and being special!!
saturndown 3 years ago
@uns3en
its called style...
tiesto is dance
basshunter is hardstyle
this (sven vath) is techno
they're apples an oranges
Capeau 1 year ago
@Capeau basshunter is not a hardstyle basshunter is shit,tooo soft for hardstyle..........
milojicic 1 year ago
@uns3en Fuck Tiesto?!?!....How can you say that, fair enough I prefer techno to trance anyday but that doesnt mean you can write off the impact Tiesto has had on the Trance scene over the past ten years
DJLiddle 1 year ago
@uns3en true true :(
woodyv00 1 year ago
What to say?Beautyfull classic
1N7C0C1 3 years ago 4
I rembember when I saw this for the first time in 1994, I was like WOW...what a great clip...Impressive..then...DOUBLE WOW...what a great song! This was top notch computer animation back then people. Anything else but low budget but stunning. Just have a look at the (shitty) graphics of the mid '90s video games.
suneku78 3 years ago 3
yeeeaaahhh!!!!!!
ddezno 3 years ago
<333
billythebootlegger 3 years ago
video ist für damalige zeiten richtig cool. sven for ever. butan-wuppertal
MoebiusGer 3 years ago 3
einfach Endgeil!!!!!!!!
StellaNancy 3 years ago
I love this track... Best years of my life... Thanks for sharing.
sajko7 3 years ago
This was soooooooooooo ahead of time!
Graviton0815 3 years ago 2
Man, this brings back memories! The whole fucking "The Harlequin, the Robot and the Ballet Dancer" is damn good!
whiterottenrabbit 3 years ago
I saw sven DJ years ago at the Orbit Leeds. He was pissed outa his head and still delivered a blinding set although his mixing was worse than usual...he just kinda fades records together...IMO while swigging spirit from the bottle. I also seen him play some of the best nights of my life,with some amazing records and atmosphere, He was certainly one of the main guys at the time...Respect
rabbitlegs 3 years ago
da gab es ein video von? wow! ich habe noch die erste edition (digipack) hier. auch nach 14 jahren ist das album nicht langweilig geworden.
UserSupportStaff 3 years ago
sven vath que grande eres¡¡¡
pipejaca 3 years ago
THX for sharing this unique classic !
Parthoris 3 years ago
sta canzone l ha messa al cocoricò
ErPANIKO 3 years ago
piękny teledysk
r4444n 3 years ago
hats heute aufm love family park gespielt...da waren keine fragen mehr offen....
Teleelfe 3 years ago
Brilliant!
burrorojo19 3 years ago
Awesome but i prefer the longer version.
Vislav 3 years ago
Sven Vath...?
est die liberkinder auf Kraftwerk und die Aphex Twin
(mein deutsch est nicht verr gutt)
Sven Vath?
Is the lovechild of Krafterk and the Aphex twin
scopeophile 3 years ago
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hes nothing like aphex twin
this is just cheesy generic stuff, aphex is experimental
xxtiaan 3 years ago
Don't forget he's had quite a few collaborations over the years also, although there's always been some notable techno sensibility to his output - it's not all he's about. Which in many ways can also be said of AFX.
Let's be honest tracks like The Garden Of Linmiri can hardly be classed as 'ambient IDM' ... in the same way as Vath's output being called 'just techno'.
scopeophile 3 years ago
I still dont think you can draw a comparison between this guy and aphex, its apples and oranges
xxtiaan 3 years ago 2
There's a word for you: noob
hydarnes 3 years ago
i like what i listen to to be interesting, fresh, and a little avant garde, not generic stuff that any geek with a laptop could cook up in his bedroom, if that makes me a "noob" then im fine with that. Ive a word or two that fit you perfectly as well.
like i said two djs of such vastly different genres cannot be compared, its apples and oranges.
its like comparing warhol with monet, or rather in this case, like comparing the guy who designed the campells soup label with monet.
xxtiaan 3 years ago 3
british understatement! that`s right. kraftwerk from düsseldorf are the goodfathers. aphex twin are the windowlickers ;-)
MoebiusGer 2 years ago
are'nt are is? either way - no.
alder321 2 years ago
Das waren die besten Zeiten überhaupt: irgendwo gab es immer illegale Techno / House - Parties an ungewöhnlichen Orten...und wir haben so manche Nacht bis zum nächsten Mittag darauf durchgefeiert...war eine schöne Zeit !
Parthoris 3 years ago
Und die Adressen der Partys musste man sich meistens über ominöse Telefonnummern besorgen. Dann fuhr man durch irgendwelche Käffer bis zu irgendwelchen Wäldern. Und dann irgendwo nach 2km Weldweg war da auf einmal was ...
Twinstar2k 3 years ago
ach waren das noch zeiten, da war ich gerade
mal 17 jahre jung
und hockte jeden samstag vor dem tape
um die clubnight aufzunehmen. :-)
Swizzelsticks 3 years ago 2
nice :D
ICWIENER23 3 years ago
wow,seen the last time about 10 years ago!
klunatsch 3 years ago
ok questa è carina però se i live sono brutti la b e la b vincono
ninfatina 3 years ago
Genius
RaulBloodworth 3 years ago
spettaclo a livello di timpani non genio
moastro
ninfatina 3 years ago
FINALLY the whole video, and just in time - I'm playing at at Reunion Rave (Sydney) in June - HOOOO YEAAAHHHHH!!!
mbatfreak 3 years ago
this was magic, think im gettin old 2 ; p
ngorana 3 years ago
zajebisty kawałek. mam cały album;))).
niewinnyczarodziej 3 years ago
Man, der Song fetzt ^^ (Ich war damals 6, wenn wir schon alle dabei sind zu erzählen wie Alt wir damals waren XD)
csDjozeR 3 years ago
holy crap there's a video?
syadasti 3 years ago
ich war 15 :)
aber fetzt immer noch der song :)))
hexerlein 3 years ago 2
the message is gude laune.....
der song fetzt dermaßen ey, da war ich 4 als der rauskam oO^^
HazeMachtBlau 3 years ago
naja ok ich war zwölf. ach noch zu jung zum feiern. aber geiles rendering für die zeit
KingOfBug 3 years ago
man ist nie zu jung zum feiern xD^^
HazeMachtBlau 3 years ago
ich war auch 4...hab irgendwie was verpasst in meiner kindheit x)
PyrOoman 3 years ago
lol, ich war da genau auch 4 jahre, is ja nen zufall ^^
ArcTiCNordOsT 3 years ago
lol, ich war da genau auch 4 jahre, is ja nen zufall ^^
ArcTiCNordOsT 3 years ago
naja was ich damals mit 4 verpasst hab hol ich jetzt nach :)
PyrOoman 3 years ago
genau so ists richtig ;)
ArcTiCNordOsT 3 years ago
eigentlich...bräuchte man nur ne alte lagerhalle oder so und dann boxen rein,was zu trinken und los gehts :D
PyrOoman 3 years ago
Genau sowas haben wir auch mal wieder vor zu organisieren. Mal sehen, ob es die Leute annehmen.
AlessandroTi 3 years ago
greatttttttttt moments*
anoressia 3 years ago
- K U L T -
natureone4live 3 years ago 3
Certainly interesting. You could actually make a game from the concept shown here...
MerlinsJester 3 years ago
arrrRRRRRRRR geileeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sache omen
ich kack ab nix mehr so geiles wie omen oder u6011 von 1999-2000 hmmm aber weiter gehts egal was kommt !!!
DrErGs 3 years ago
Für mich damals schon ein Fanal audiovisueller Kunst und die Glanzstunde deutscher elektronischer Musik. Seit dem ein bekennender Väthischist!
Ocularion 3 years ago
No comment..... classic
milenskiii 3 years ago
Classic tune! It's sounds even better now than back then. I must be getting old...
taavetti80 3 years ago
..haha man sieht ein abschnitt wo eine Elfe aus einem "Cocoon" rausschlüpft.(haha)
Sven du bist der beste!
Patrykradomir 3 years ago
requisite comment:
they dont make em like they used to
xruntime 3 years ago 2
They certainly don't. ;)
hydarnes 3 years ago
bald kommt der eric prydz remix raus, der is auch fein, aber original bleibt ungeschlagen ;)
dnnnL 4 years ago
ERIC PRYDZ REMIX???? -.-
Diablita77 3 years ago
with this video are comming to electronic music.
divine.
fullbockbaby 4 years ago
EYE Q, ffs! nicht cocoon.
maxmarlow 4 years ago
The great 3D graphics revolution began around this time.
BurtWilson1 4 years ago
This was probably made with Lightwave on a normal Amiga, probably by a single person.
3yE 3 years ago 3
This was THE TRANCE music.
First 2 Sven's albums (Accident in Paradise and The Harlequin) are fundamentalsò.
Milestones.
Pergiacomo 4 years ago
5 with +
spikee92 4 years ago
thanks for this video.
i loved for this.
fullbockbaby 4 years ago