From how to make a sharp adge, to have an oral transmited tradition, and even the Platonic "Academy"; is already education !
Educational systems means "political organization " I was educated in Guatemala, through PRIVATE schools = private and speficic specialisation;
If you speak about Maya people is something ELSE. You can not COMPARE the westernalization with the maya "education" and make a CHIMERY of conclusions ! SET your AXIOMS on right context, before publish irnorances.
Zagiacho - I don't quite understand what your trying to say. The syntax of your message doesn't match up. The message that my video was trying to get across, however, I think you misunderstand. Watch the video again - I propose to positives and negatives in building a public education in Guatemala... be it in urban and/or rural locations. Obviously, if you were one of the lucky few to have had a private education you came from a more fortune family n economical upbringing.
Keep in mind of all the advantages you had/have and then think of the less fortunate.. the natives - the Mayans. Education can be a rich, fulfilling, and essential element to any given community depending on the TYPE of education (aka, how the students can use their knowledge and skills in the real world) and how the system is set up. The westernized education system, I think, could potentially do more harm than good. I completely agree that an education system is a disguised
political organization. The USs edu system is far from perfect even within with culture it was created in. Therefore, an education system tailored to the Guatemalan culture, industrial dynamics, and survival needs would probably best suit all people in Guatemala (including the indigenous) over time. However that is just an opinion of a college girl who traveled to the country for 3 weeks. My opinion is not stated on the video - again it simply states the pro's and the con's.
As in the "market", it doesn`t exist "a-price" just a range ,and the competition creates diversity. THEN you will find a lot of different prices for different schools, for different levels, for different classes then. Is not "black and white" or privileged ( rich), or not-privileged ( colonization ). Some natives can not afford some private schools, some of them yes ! The history of the Maya is not as cruel as the history of your Natives !! Here were not exterminated or draged to reservations.
Many public schools were "closed" on the rural area, Since many years ago education have been brought to them, but many times the DON`T send kids at school, because they dont need to know history to plant their fields, so their kids learn from the father and help the father at the field. Schools closed then. Langauge: they are raised at home with Maya, not spanish. Its difficult for a no-Maya teacher to teach to Maya kids, and since the parent`s were working the fields as their parents then...
COMPULSORY, OBLIGATORY. From here you could see a great difference. When school is not legaly compulsory, It means "coercion" , then yes, the differences can be interpretated by other things. I WAS NOT LUCKY, or privileged. A good friend of mine was educated on public school, on a small town on the mountians, and now he is a lawyer and a succesful business man. Western travelers always interpreting what they don`t understand.
I think life is all about balance, and the two extremes are bad. A good educated, and rich society with no culture and identity is bad, and so is a society rich in culture and traditions but uneducated...
I think we can have both... a well educated society, rich in culture, traditions and why not.., material things too.
It's not easy and might take a while but it's possible. We've already seen in recent years in Guatemala many indigenous professionals come out of our universities.
The problem of iliteracy started when the Spanish Conquistadores after conquering the Mayan tribes and slaving them, denied them the right to an education, and it wasn't untill recent generations that all this people were allowed to have an education and then still many of them didn't have access to a school and so on and so forth. You also have to add the many dictatorships and the 36 year civil war that was fought around the indigenous people of Guatemala.
Wow! I have to start by saying that I liked your work a lot and it seems like you're a very intelligent person.
I'm Guatemalan by the way. Born and raised in Guatemala City untill the age of 15 when I moved to the USA. So, I understand and know exactly what you're talking about. But to answer your question is not easy because the problems in Guatemala have very deep roots, many of which started 500 years ago.
GUATEMALA is in America so is the States.
Estuardino71 1 year ago
If you really want to see and invasion on educaiton, come here to Switzerland.
zagiacho 2 years ago
From how to make a sharp adge, to have an oral transmited tradition, and even the Platonic "Academy"; is already education !
Educational systems means "political organization " I was educated in Guatemala, through PRIVATE schools = private and speficic specialisation;
If you speak about Maya people is something ELSE. You can not COMPARE the westernalization with the maya "education" and make a CHIMERY of conclusions ! SET your AXIOMS on right context, before publish irnorances.
zagiacho 2 years ago
@zagiacho
Zagiacho - I don't quite understand what your trying to say. The syntax of your message doesn't match up. The message that my video was trying to get across, however, I think you misunderstand. Watch the video again - I propose to positives and negatives in building a public education in Guatemala... be it in urban and/or rural locations. Obviously, if you were one of the lucky few to have had a private education you came from a more fortune family n economical upbringing.
cghill5 2 years ago
@zagiacho
Keep in mind of all the advantages you had/have and then think of the less fortunate.. the natives - the Mayans. Education can be a rich, fulfilling, and essential element to any given community depending on the TYPE of education (aka, how the students can use their knowledge and skills in the real world) and how the system is set up. The westernized education system, I think, could potentially do more harm than good. I completely agree that an education system is a disguised
cghill5 2 years ago
@zagiacho
political organization. The USs edu system is far from perfect even within with culture it was created in. Therefore, an education system tailored to the Guatemalan culture, industrial dynamics, and survival needs would probably best suit all people in Guatemala (including the indigenous) over time. However that is just an opinion of a college girl who traveled to the country for 3 weeks. My opinion is not stated on the video - again it simply states the pro's and the con's.
cghill5 2 years ago
@zagiacho
It's up to you to decide where you stand. As always, I appreciate your comments.
cghill5 2 years ago
As in the "market", it doesn`t exist "a-price" just a range ,and the competition creates diversity. THEN you will find a lot of different prices for different schools, for different levels, for different classes then. Is not "black and white" or privileged ( rich), or not-privileged ( colonization ). Some natives can not afford some private schools, some of them yes ! The history of the Maya is not as cruel as the history of your Natives !! Here were not exterminated or draged to reservations.
zagiacho 2 years ago
Many public schools were "closed" on the rural area, Since many years ago education have been brought to them, but many times the DON`T send kids at school, because they dont need to know history to plant their fields, so their kids learn from the father and help the father at the field. Schools closed then. Langauge: they are raised at home with Maya, not spanish. Its difficult for a no-Maya teacher to teach to Maya kids, and since the parent`s were working the fields as their parents then...
zagiacho 2 years ago
COMPULSORY, OBLIGATORY. From here you could see a great difference. When school is not legaly compulsory, It means "coercion" , then yes, the differences can be interpretated by other things. I WAS NOT LUCKY, or privileged. A good friend of mine was educated on public school, on a small town on the mountians, and now he is a lawyer and a succesful business man. Western travelers always interpreting what they don`t understand.
zagiacho 2 years ago
Sorry I had to break my whole message in fragments but this window won't let me type more than 500 characters...
Finally, I thank you very much for visiting my country and for volunteering to help my fellow Guatemalans.
Keep up the good work!
jimmini1983 3 years ago
I think life is all about balance, and the two extremes are bad. A good educated, and rich society with no culture and identity is bad, and so is a society rich in culture and traditions but uneducated...
I think we can have both... a well educated society, rich in culture, traditions and why not.., material things too.
It's not easy and might take a while but it's possible. We've already seen in recent years in Guatemala many indigenous professionals come out of our universities.
jimmini1983 3 years ago
The problem of iliteracy started when the Spanish Conquistadores after conquering the Mayan tribes and slaving them, denied them the right to an education, and it wasn't untill recent generations that all this people were allowed to have an education and then still many of them didn't have access to a school and so on and so forth. You also have to add the many dictatorships and the 36 year civil war that was fought around the indigenous people of Guatemala.
jimmini1983 3 years ago
Wow! I have to start by saying that I liked your work a lot and it seems like you're a very intelligent person.
I'm Guatemalan by the way. Born and raised in Guatemala City untill the age of 15 when I moved to the USA. So, I understand and know exactly what you're talking about. But to answer your question is not easy because the problems in Guatemala have very deep roots, many of which started 500 years ago.
jimmini1983 3 years ago