@MrJrwinter I started to correct your post then saw the activity on your channel page. If all you do is post snarky little comments like this...what's the use. Have fun being a POS troll. -- Veri
@MrJrwinter Might as well be though, a large part of corporate is in the US and 2/5 of the designers are from the US, more so than Germans, so in turn the end product is really from the passion and design of who? Americans. Oh, and you're a prick.
@1984LHR The basic design of a 1911 is going to be the same. There will be differences though (like a purist might not like the kimber extractors). Of course the look and features can vary dramatically, but the basic engineering hasn't changed since 1911
@MrJrwinter yes..bmw's suck, high maintenance, expensive parts...toyota out sells most american companies greater amount of american made parts, lasts longer, less expensive. sorry bad comparison you should try another.
I apologize if you already got this question a few hundred times, but if you don't consider the Kimber a high-value 1911 because of the "bang for your buck", which one would you suggest for a person thinking about getting a 1911 for carry?
I have Crimson Trace grips on my Colt 1991A1. The only problem with them is the lens can get smeared with oil/powder if you're shooting at an indoor range. After about 30 rounds of American Eagle ball ammo, my dot turned into a red flashlight.
I like my Para LTC .45 :D Shot the hell of it of, got crap in it, and not a single hiccup. Good in snow rain and dust. Has essentially everything the basic kimbers have including ramped barrel and wide port 8 rd cap, but cost me about $200 less then this runs here. Has a standard barrel though but cant find anything wrong with it aside from that it throws brass up down sideways forward n back so collecting reload brass is a pain. Never hits me though.
Like you review, just from this video I last week had a chance to hold the Kimber 3 inch ultra Raptor ii and the 4 inch stainless raptor ii steel. I ended up adding the 4 inch to my collection. Boy, I have tosay it's a piece of nicely made product from their Kimber Custom Shop.. I can't wait to take it out to my local range.. Keep up the awesome reviews..
But I do expect my groups with the SIG to be better than with the glock, and I think that's a fair expectation considering SIG. Only a new shooter with little experience won't notice the difference between the two. I have close to 9000 rounds through my glock. While its never failed me, its not the easiest thing to shoot accurately. It takes skill to shoot these polymer rigs well. Most people would agree 1911's tend to make regular joes shoot great. Its just the nature of the design
Ur right to an extent and I think shooter technique trumps make and model of gun, but manufacturers definitly make some more user friendly than others, and I'd say kimber does a great job. I still feel safer with my kimber, than glock 22. Maybe that's more me, but any idiot can tell there is a diff in quality just by holding the 2 together. I do think SIG makes the best modern handgun on the market. I have a P226 on layaway!! I won't be suprised if my groups are the same as the kimber.
I would like to comment on a few things in your review. First you kept comparing the 1911 to a glock. Now comparing a polymer frame gun to a metal frame gun....really? And also your capacity comments about it only holding 7+1 and the Glock and the Sig 9mm having a higher capacity....well duh the 1911 .45 acp holds a round with twice the grain weight as your beloved glock or sig.And if you have a person pointing a 1911 at your center mass is it really going to matter if he has 8 or 15 rounds?
I have the Kimber Ultra Carry .40 nice doubled in price since 2001 It takes about 3 seconds to unload the 7 magazine. That's all the target time you will get. So you don't have to do anything to custom the pistol. It's just fine as is right out of the box. Lasers etc. Not necessary fixed sights are all you need.
I thank the President being the greatest salesman of all time. All the lives that will be saved from good Americans able to defend themselves. Violent crimes will go down.
I have a Kimber 1911. The ONLY complaint I have about it is that it flings oil everywhere when i shoot it! I don't know if all 1911's do it (I keep mine super clean and lubed, never have any malfunctions), but that is my only complaint. I LOVE 1911'S!!!! The 100 year old anniversary is coming up!!!! XD
The Pro Carry II does not have the same sights as the TLE, just FYI. It's got plane jane sights. Not even dots. Cost saving measure of course it still shoots nicely, to say the least.
"Low Value" regarding firepower, accuracy, and reliability... Then moving on to mention that it is also intrinsically and intangibally enjoyable to hold/own. Seems like a self contradiction. Expensive? Yes! But for good reason, if I were to produce a weapon that had recieved such wide-spread acclaim, applause, and "jizzums", I would probably charge a premium for it too. Regarding shop owners talking shit about them, its no secret that theres almost no margin for Kimbers...
didnt like how he said the accuracy is the same as a sig or glock. iv carried a glock 22 for work for almost a year. The accuracy doesnt come close to my kimber. Id feel safer with my 8 round kimber then my 15 round glock. I can put the shots where i want them right away.
@kimberandkenpo . your absolutely right about that. I feel safer with my kimber ultra carry II w/night sights 7rd mags than I do with my glock 19. I feel i have the right stopping power 45acp .
@rmg1035 thanks man. i feel the same way. truth is, i cannot shoot the glock one handed at all. with 2 hands im fine. give me the kimber and im great. shooting is all technique and iv seen guys with talent do well with glocks. think my hands are just to small for them. I dont like the plasticy feel either. i can buy an alumninum 1911 that carrys light if i want to, and i bet itl still outshoot the glock.
@kimberandkenpo I am not singling you out. its just your comment was perfect for my thought. When is it that it is realized that Handguns are like a pair of pants or shoes even ? One Manufacture fits diff then the other. You cant put down the weapon. YOU just dont shoot that well with that particular weapon. I can pick up a P220 and be dead on yet when firing a Kimber i have to compensate. Its the person. and thats what i hate people are to quick to blame the Make/Model and not themselves.
Rise to the level of a sig or glock? THATS impossible. OH my nothing in the world can do that. I wonder if that rise is in reference to muzzle rise form the high barrel axis on the sigs or glocks?
actually the 1911 is not really used in the military anymore. it was replaced by the m9 service pistol witch i think it sucks they should of stuck with the 1911
i served in the air force, the standard issue sidearm for even mid rank officers (I was a Captain) was the Baretta 9mm, heavy, ugly piece of crap, this was about 8 years ago, I wish I had a 45, in fact i think every aviator did. 45 is just awesome, love the round.
Just picked up a Kimber Custom II (base model) for my wife and she loves it. She had trouble shooting my sig P229 because of recoil and the Kimber was the prefect compromise.
yall have to realize that you have to look at a kimber differently to a glock....or any poly gun...kimbers workmanship is outstanding. i had a glock 19 a springfield xd 40 and just got an kimber eclipse II. i would prefer the kimber over both, just because it freakin rocks! they def. turn heads and like nutn said, there is a huge enjoyment factor when holding these in hand.
why is every dealer I go to bad mouthing kimbers lately and pushing the sig and springfield 1911, although non of them make a comparable one to the ultra and the pro. they keep telling me the quality is horrible and I will regret buying one. are any of competitors paying the dealers to do so, is there a larger profit margin? I have a pro and a raptor series 1 and love both, now want to get an ultra any help will be appreciated
Jack, I used to be really hot on Kimber, but I've heard very mixed reviews lately too. I doubt Sig or Springfield could pay dealers to give bad advice (how much would they have to pay? and wouldn't it destroy any profit they make on the gun?), but I've definitely heard bad things about Kimber for warranty items and good things about Springfield for customer service.
But if you've had good luck with Kimber, that's what's most important, right?
Nutnfancy is the best. I agree with his evaluation of 1911's. They are good guns and I would feel well armed with one. However I prefer a more modern design like a Glock. I have a Glock 21 (.45 ACP) which I am selling. I am buying a Glock 19 (9mm). 9mm ammo is cheaper than .45 ACP ammo. For self defense with my Glock 19, I will buy 9mm +P JHP and I will be well protected.
I totally agree. Glock is just an ugly gun model. But they are extremely reliable so it's one of those cases where nobody can judge it by it cover. But I'd choose a 1911 over it anytime.
The Glock is apparently quite reliable, but I got to try one at the police pistol range a few weeks ago (as part of a class I was taking) and I really hated the long trigger pull. I like the SA trigger of a 1911 much better.
@DRCsyntax I agree on the beauty. To me, the 1911 is the best looking firearm out there. I personally like the commander (4-4.24" barrels) because of the weight and distribution, but the 5" is visually spectacular.
It really, at least for me, needs an ambidextrous safety, and Kimber SEEMS to have one which can fit a Crimson Trace grip - ie:a shorter lever that won't stump against the laser pointer.
Note: I'm a southpaw, and miss the days of the all ambi Kimbers like the CDP's.
something for everyone to thing about, I went to a gun store and held the Kimber Crimson Carry which is pretty much the same as the Kimber Pro carry w/ the laser, the gun felt great as kimbers usually do, HOWEVEr, i have large hands and when my finger is off of the trigger and down the side of the gun, my finger obstructs the laser so i have to consciously move my finger which might not be good in a stressful situation, still a great gun though and i will probably be picking one up very soon!
...all to no positive avail. So, if I'm the only guy with a poor Kimber Ultra II Custom Shop, no problem. But be aware... this Nutnfancy viewer has posted this comment to better inform you, the viewer of this one experience. Because I highly value Nutnfancy's review of this manufacturer's other guns, I trust you will most likely have a positive experience also. But I won't spend high dollar for a Kimber Custom Shop pistol again. Just my experience. Thanks for the opportunity to comment.
I really hesitate saying this, because I'm probably the only person with a bad Kimber Ultra II Custom Shop, but mine isn't reliable. It has failed to eject and stove piped since the day I first took it to the range. The selling dealer gave me alot of remedies: put 500 / 800 rounds through it; factory mags are bad, use Wilson Combat/ McCormick mags; won't run right for a limp wrist ( this isn't my first 1911 45); the local dealer's smith tuned it up; then I sent it back to the Kimber Custom Shop
I really dig the 1911, but I also dig the glock, both for weight, price, mag capacity, and it's the first gun I fired. the first gun I would buy, being new to guns would be the glock, mostly because its simple to learn easy to shoot, and comes in a whole bevy of caliber, grip, frame, and barrel options.
...But I see your point. Most of America is even more pussified than the NRA. (And I have to admit that Wayne LaPierre is a good writer who has some balls.)
Most importantly, buy copies of "Unintended Consequences" and "Molon Labe" and read them. Determine that it's not only gun freedom but ALL property rights that deserve your avid protection. Be a libertarian, Vote Libertarian, don't let the LP get hijacked.
The best thing about having a .45 is that you really don't need hollowpoints. the .451 inch round nose does the job just as good. The 1911 (originally) was not designed to use hollowpoint ammo because hollowpoints where not invented yet. Any fair quality modern (circa 1980 and later) 1911 should have no problems whatsoever using hollowpoints. If it does, then it's probably a bad magazine.
I recently got a Kimber Stainless Raptor II Custom. Yes it was expensive, yes it is heavy, yes it is full sized and not easily concealed, yes it doesn't like to feed hollow points when dirty. But man that gun is the nicest gun I have ever owned. It is loaded with tons of custom features straight from the factory. I recently bought the 22LR conversion and it shoots accurate as well on my frame. Only mods I would like is a few different pairs of grips and perhaps a set of the CR laser grips.
From one Kimber owner to another, congrats on the new pistol! My Raptor ll Custom has been on order for 6 months, how long did you have to wait? Or did the dealer already have it in stock?
Well I have a full size. I don't carry it and never really planned to. It is a heavy guy and with my ITAC holster I have to to tighten my belt up two more belt loops or else it will pull my pants down. I am not sure how must easier one of these carry models would be.
I am getting an air weight S&W or Ruger 38 spl for carry. Small light and easy to operate in a high stress situation. Plus the reliability of a revolver. Point and shoot.
I'd like to know how Obama is going to screw over millions of gun owners. We would NEVER loose our guns, there are far too many gun owners, both liberal and conservative. Not one person has brought up a good argument for this reason other then "Obama is bad, blah blah blah"
like freakin Sarah Pailin and McCain were such great choices...Health care reform and the wars we are fighting will be taking up most of his time. I'll eat my own words if our gun rights become an issue like health care.
Well my guess on how he would accomplish this is just make the cost of owning and maintaining a firearm so expensive that the majority would not be able to afford a gun. He has been caught lying about his stance on gun control and private ownership. I don't trust him and I think he may have a pretty good chance at accomplishing his goal do to people who think his legislation would be "the" way to get rid of bad guns. In the process all private guns would go away. I'd still have mine anyway.
well, it almost was. HR45 was a very real possibility, of course Im not trying to blame it on obama but he has been very anti-second amendment so far just check his past voting record. I do believe that Sarah Pailin and McCain were much better choices at least in the second amendment department.
The laser projects in the visible spectrum. As such, any environment that isn't sterile will have enough dust to at least let even the least observant asshole out there see the beam.
$785 if you find a dealer that isn't out to rip you off... that's how much mine cost, including markup and an extra mag.
vwbmw93: I carry mine all the time. I use a defender holster, though. It wraps around your waist and holds an extra mag. You can put it anywhere around your waist so it is always comfortable, IMO. Pull it up so that it clears your belt high enough for an easy draw but it still keeps it firmly inside. It comes with a thumb-break strap but I never use it.
i would say that the Kimber metallurgy is superior to the Colt. I own a modern Kimber full size and a series 70 Colt Commander, and the steel on the Kimber is just a higher level of quality and workmanship.
Just picked up a Pro Carry II at a gunshow for 580$ : ) some guy traded it for a Glock 23 CRAZY. Best gun i have ever shot. I love it and i will always own a KIMBER!!! If you cant find a deal on one just save up the extra cash you cant go wrong with a Kimber.
Compared to the Springfield XDM, I found that I was able to shoot more accurately with a Kimber out of the box. I attribute that to the superior trigger on the 1911 style gun. I now shoot both guns pretty much the same, but it took me a while to get used to the longer trigger pull of the XDM. Both guns are super.
I absolutely L-O-V-E my Kimber. I have a full size 1911 custom. It has a ramped and ported barrell and a laser grip. It was not cheap. It shoots very well, and it has never failed me. My cary choice is my S&W M&P .45 it is easier to conceal, it holds more amo and it came with a spare mag. It cost less than half what my Kimber did. I will say Kimber makes the finest 1911 available off of the shelf. There are some customs but you will pay and wait a long time for it.
"They're not some fashion icon". In that statement you just admitted its almost too "pretty" to be a gun. Why not have a gun that looks nice. Its not girly, its not pink. Whats not to like about it.
It's about what feels natural really. Everyone's got a preference. I'm still breaking in my Sig RCS, but man, I'm finding it to be the my prefered gun to shot. It's "easy" to be accurate; great sights, metal frame, and that SA trigger is AMAZING.
To hell with interchangeable backstraps; The shape of the 1911 is perfect for me. It's taken a bit of getting used to, but the more I shoot it, the more I fall in love.If I'd critique anything, It'd be mag capacity- solved by carrying another mag
I just listened to an interview of UN spokesperson Rebecca (something) and "they" are using the fact that out of the 80 million gun owners in the US, only 4 million support their right to own guns via the NRA. Step up! Support or we are screwed. You will have to hand in your guns. Fight back and join!
Obviously, it depends on your marksmanship. With proper aim, even a .22 can theoretically take one down with one shot. Therefore, I am more comfortable with the higher capacity of a 9mm. They tend to be more accurate and forgiving.
Different strokes for different folks. Each round has it's proven applications; that's why they exist. People have being arguing over the "superior" round for years.
Percision gets your bullets where you want. Knockdown power keeps the target down.
Stopping power for the 45. is legendary. Capacity and low recoil is what get's the 9mm most of it's votes. I love them both, but each has it's own applications that they can shine in; an extra mag with the 45, and high power rounds for the 9mm.
good call salmonking, I prefer the precision and capacity that comes with a 9mm but the absolute cannonpower that a .45 offers is certainly useful in the proper applications
Shooting is generally the same idea for all guns. Point, align sights, shoot. This is accuracy; hitting the point you aim at.
Double-tap training takes time; to make that recoil work for you and place multiple rounds in the same general area. This is percision.
The recoil of a 9mm is "tamer" and easier to manage than a 45 (the the metal frame of the 1911 helps). Ideally, it's easier and cheaper to 1st learn how deal with recoil in speed drills with a 9mm.
I guess i dont feel that there is anything precision about putting "multiple rounds in the same general area". I guess it depends on if you want to be able to hit a person or a penny. If i cant hit a 3" target at 25 yards every time im pissed. None of my glocks can do that. I will admit that most guns are more accurate than the person pulling the trigger. In my experience, my 1911 recoil less because of the weight, the sights are awesome, and the gun is just naturally more accurate.
it's not more accurate, the recoil is less, which makes quick follow-up shots have a quicker "learning curve". If you're wrists can handle the recoil of a 45, and you like 1911s, by all means, carry it.
I'm with Nutn' when he says carry what you shoot well. No more ballistics arguements, lol
no one is forcing the movie down your throat. He is smart and knowledgeable about the topic. I don't get why you think he is stupid. Just a hater? lol
on the issue of the 1911 not being as good as a glock or sig.... i cant agree. when i was in the navy, i learned to shoot with the 1911. i will use the M-9, but i hate the double action system. as for the sig, the only thing i can say i dont like about them is the double action. all are great great guns but i feel that the 100 years of use and the design features make the 1911 a superior platform, no matter who makes it.
this goes for andreas223344. YOU are an idiot!!!! you would waste your time writing a comment on something you consider pathetic. Why do you exist!!! You should go and off yourself with a knife(because you think guns are pathetic)
I completely disagree with the guy, but telling him to go kill himself is not productive. Moreover it puts a negative connotation on guns and their respective owners.
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Guns are pathetic. The idea of allowing citizens to own weapons to be able to defend to themselves from the state apparatus is out of date. Criminals are supplied with cheap guns from the weapons industry, or from burglaries. Only a misunderstood ideal of masculinity is left. Have fun guys (and masculine girls).. The only true winner is the weapons industry. Society is the loser.
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I agree to a point, average civilians should not be allowed anywhere near anything but pissweak hunting rifles, serious weapons should only be possessed by Law Enforcement Security and Military agencies.
Another great review. Merry Christmas and happy new year too
chazzlehoff 2 months ago
I plan on buying this in a few months, will turn into a carry gun along with my xdm 40
LaGGyXdm 2 months ago
sexy piece of steel
TheStreetsArt 5 months ago
That laser pointer on the gun looks great !
SuperRip7 5 months ago
@SuperRip7 - completely agree. Love the laser grips with the kimber branding on them.
2011blueman 2 months ago
Excuse me, you get what you pay for. Quality costs more. Spend less and you get less.
cauterful 7 months ago
Uh... Why are you, the guys commenting, talking about cars?
I thought this was a firearm related video.
SamPD2 8 months ago
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MrJrwinter 8 months ago
@MrJrwinter I started to correct your post then saw the activity on your channel page. If all you do is post snarky little comments like this...what's the use. Have fun being a POS troll. -- Veri
nutnfancy 8 months ago 2
@MrJrwinter Might as well be though, a large part of corporate is in the US and 2/5 of the designers are from the US, more so than Germans, so in turn the end product is really from the passion and design of who? Americans. Oh, and you're a prick.
19Kettle93 6 months ago
Is there a 1911 from a different manufacturer with the same Kimber 1911 specifications?
1984LHR 8 months ago in playlist guns
@1984LHR The basic design of a 1911 is going to be the same. There will be differences though (like a purist might not like the kimber extractors). Of course the look and features can vary dramatically, but the basic engineering hasn't changed since 1911
gobbly1337 6 months ago
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MrJrwinter 10 months ago
@MrJrwinter Good point.
JCP281 8 months ago
@MrJrwinter yes..bmw's suck, high maintenance, expensive parts...toyota out sells most american companies greater amount of american made parts, lasts longer, less expensive. sorry bad comparison you should try another.
thaddeusabear 8 months ago
&vintage=1911
Samiyar09 10 months ago
can I have one?
bunny153649 10 months ago
I like this gun i wish i had this gun and i can rob people XD
TMBlackCat 11 months ago
Do you have a hand gun review vid of any kind that you don't mention Glock???
gwissel1 11 months ago 5
I apologize if you already got this question a few hundred times, but if you don't consider the Kimber a high-value 1911 because of the "bang for your buck", which one would you suggest for a person thinking about getting a 1911 for carry?
neanderthor66 1 year ago
I have Crimson Trace grips on my Colt 1991A1. The only problem with them is the lens can get smeared with oil/powder if you're shooting at an indoor range. After about 30 rounds of American Eagle ball ammo, my dot turned into a red flashlight.
devastateurface 1 year ago
I like my Para LTC .45 :D Shot the hell of it of, got crap in it, and not a single hiccup. Good in snow rain and dust. Has essentially everything the basic kimbers have including ramped barrel and wide port 8 rd cap, but cost me about $200 less then this runs here. Has a standard barrel though but cant find anything wrong with it aside from that it throws brass up down sideways forward n back so collecting reload brass is a pain. Never hits me though.
shkotay 1 year ago
You show your friends your Kimber, you show the enemy your Glock/Sprinfield.
Lokpyrite 1 year ago
Like you review, just from this video I last week had a chance to hold the Kimber 3 inch ultra Raptor ii and the 4 inch stainless raptor ii steel. I ended up adding the 4 inch to my collection. Boy, I have tosay it's a piece of nicely made product from their Kimber Custom Shop.. I can't wait to take it out to my local range.. Keep up the awesome reviews..
rickyyee88 1 year ago
But I do expect my groups with the SIG to be better than with the glock, and I think that's a fair expectation considering SIG. Only a new shooter with little experience won't notice the difference between the two. I have close to 9000 rounds through my glock. While its never failed me, its not the easiest thing to shoot accurately. It takes skill to shoot these polymer rigs well. Most people would agree 1911's tend to make regular joes shoot great. Its just the nature of the design
kimberandkenpo 1 year ago
Ur right to an extent and I think shooter technique trumps make and model of gun, but manufacturers definitly make some more user friendly than others, and I'd say kimber does a great job. I still feel safer with my kimber, than glock 22. Maybe that's more me, but any idiot can tell there is a diff in quality just by holding the 2 together. I do think SIG makes the best modern handgun on the market. I have a P226 on layaway!! I won't be suprised if my groups are the same as the kimber.
kimberandkenpo 1 year ago
I would like to comment on a few things in your review. First you kept comparing the 1911 to a glock. Now comparing a polymer frame gun to a metal frame gun....really? And also your capacity comments about it only holding 7+1 and the Glock and the Sig 9mm having a higher capacity....well duh the 1911 .45 acp holds a round with twice the grain weight as your beloved glock or sig.And if you have a person pointing a 1911 at your center mass is it really going to matter if he has 8 or 15 rounds?
thehunterofgunman 1 year ago
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thehunterofgunman 1 year ago
I have the Kimber Ultra Carry .40 nice doubled in price since 2001 It takes about 3 seconds to unload the 7 magazine. That's all the target time you will get. So you don't have to do anything to custom the pistol. It's just fine as is right out of the box. Lasers etc. Not necessary fixed sights are all you need.
skipsassy1 1 year ago
WOW that's a nice 1911!
themyth117 1 year ago
can you put a red dot on the slide?
Mr420pot420 1 year ago
love 1911's kimbers mostly, love glocks, love sigs but im a die hard kimber fan boy
JOEFACE4216 1 year ago
I LOVE how theres a laser warning, "may cause harm to eyes" but the bullets that shoot out of it are harmless.... gotta love china
dieter023 1 year ago
@dieter023 LMAO thats freakin funny! the sad thing is ill bet it was the united states that made that a requirement...
seribas 1 year ago
I thank the President being the greatest salesman of all time. All the lives that will be saved from good Americans able to defend themselves. Violent crimes will go down.
TakeDetour 1 year ago
I have a Kimber 1911. The ONLY complaint I have about it is that it flings oil everywhere when i shoot it! I don't know if all 1911's do it (I keep mine super clean and lubed, never have any malfunctions), but that is my only complaint. I LOVE 1911'S!!!! The 100 year old anniversary is coming up!!!! XD
GunFreak270 1 year ago
@GunFreak270 Well you dnt need ALOT of lube on ur gun jus a really light coat will do the trick!!!
MrTRP45 1 year ago
The Pro Carry II does not have the same sights as the TLE, just FYI. It's got plane jane sights. Not even dots. Cost saving measure of course it still shoots nicely, to say the least.
chaff5 1 year ago
"Low Value" regarding firepower, accuracy, and reliability... Then moving on to mention that it is also intrinsically and intangibally enjoyable to hold/own. Seems like a self contradiction. Expensive? Yes! But for good reason, if I were to produce a weapon that had recieved such wide-spread acclaim, applause, and "jizzums", I would probably charge a premium for it too. Regarding shop owners talking shit about them, its no secret that theres almost no margin for Kimbers...
chrisfry841 1 year ago
Don't need a laser. Best gun Ive ever owned. I got the Ultra carry II with night-sights.
rmg1035 1 year ago
didnt like how he said the accuracy is the same as a sig or glock. iv carried a glock 22 for work for almost a year. The accuracy doesnt come close to my kimber. Id feel safer with my 8 round kimber then my 15 round glock. I can put the shots where i want them right away.
kimberandkenpo 1 year ago 6
@kimberandkenpo . your absolutely right about that. I feel safer with my kimber ultra carry II w/night sights 7rd mags than I do with my glock 19. I feel i have the right stopping power 45acp .
rmg1035 1 year ago
@rmg1035 thanks man. i feel the same way. truth is, i cannot shoot the glock one handed at all. with 2 hands im fine. give me the kimber and im great. shooting is all technique and iv seen guys with talent do well with glocks. think my hands are just to small for them. I dont like the plasticy feel either. i can buy an alumninum 1911 that carrys light if i want to, and i bet itl still outshoot the glock.
kimberandkenpo 1 year ago
@kimberandkenpo I am not singling you out. its just your comment was perfect for my thought. When is it that it is realized that Handguns are like a pair of pants or shoes even ? One Manufacture fits diff then the other. You cant put down the weapon. YOU just dont shoot that well with that particular weapon. I can pick up a P220 and be dead on yet when firing a Kimber i have to compensate. Its the person. and thats what i hate people are to quick to blame the Make/Model and not themselves.
Ethreo 1 year ago
while glock is better on capacity etc this is a classic and i wouldnt change it with nothing its just perfect awesome
karapaneas 1 year ago
i like how your finger when indexed covers up the laser, this way your laser doesn't appear till you're about to shoot...
superturtleman123 1 year ago
Rise to the level of a sig or glock? THATS impossible. OH my nothing in the world can do that. I wonder if that rise is in reference to muzzle rise form the high barrel axis on the sigs or glocks?
soupercoolguy 1 year ago
model 1911 .45's are the most beautiful handguns in the world IMO, someday in the near future i would like to own a kimber 45
bigbirdjl 1 year ago
meprolight sights. I have them on 2 of my 3 kimbers. i dont have the laser.
95tahoe1 1 year ago
VERY ACCURATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gfitzz28 1 year ago
kimbers are less expensive than say springfields or others? and the taurus would be least expensive yeah?
DoctorSess 1 year ago
actually the 1911 is not really used in the military anymore. it was replaced by the m9 service pistol witch i think it sucks they should of stuck with the 1911
chynue 1 year ago
Yes & no. For standard troops issue you'd be right - the M9 replaced the 1911 in 1985 for the services.
However many special ops folks still favor & use the 1911 design still to this day.
Bret928 1 year ago
Some units still use 'em. Delta Force and the Marine Expiditionary Unit.
BlackHawk2029 1 year ago
@chynue
i served in the air force, the standard issue sidearm for even mid rank officers (I was a Captain) was the Baretta 9mm, heavy, ugly piece of crap, this was about 8 years ago, I wish I had a 45, in fact i think every aviator did. 45 is just awesome, love the round.
JackSureshot 1 year ago
How are Para Ordnance 1911's?
They are double stacked 14+1 capacity 1911's.
My main questions regarding these double stacked magazines are:
1. How reliable are the mags?
2. How much of an effect does it have on the grip and handling?
accuracy/ergonomics/etc
MaxAC40 2 years ago
Love this gun!! Will get one one day when the money is flowing once again.
Thanks for the very thorough review of this gun!!
Pinstripedtie 2 years ago
good choice shoots so so smooth
armypenguin 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Kimber but Wilson Combat is the best of the best for pistols.
OutDoorsMan500 2 years ago
Yeah, If you have $3000 to spend on a pistol.
Augownage 2 years ago
Just picked up a Kimber Custom II (base model) for my wife and she loves it. She had trouble shooting my sig P229 because of recoil and the Kimber was the prefect compromise.
whtdrgn101 2 years ago
yall have to realize that you have to look at a kimber differently to a glock....or any poly gun...kimbers workmanship is outstanding. i had a glock 19 a springfield xd 40 and just got an kimber eclipse II. i would prefer the kimber over both, just because it freakin rocks! they def. turn heads and like nutn said, there is a huge enjoyment factor when holding these in hand.
pistolkid40 2 years ago
I found out you can't port feed the XD, the extractor hits the outside of the shell casing
rypostu 2 years ago
why is every dealer I go to bad mouthing kimbers lately and pushing the sig and springfield 1911, although non of them make a comparable one to the ultra and the pro. they keep telling me the quality is horrible and I will regret buying one. are any of competitors paying the dealers to do so, is there a larger profit margin? I have a pro and a raptor series 1 and love both, now want to get an ultra any help will be appreciated
JackSureshot 2 years ago
Jack, I used to be really hot on Kimber, but I've heard very mixed reviews lately too. I doubt Sig or Springfield could pay dealers to give bad advice (how much would they have to pay? and wouldn't it destroy any profit they make on the gun?), but I've definitely heard bad things about Kimber for warranty items and good things about Springfield for customer service.
But if you've had good luck with Kimber, that's what's most important, right?
crispiegee1 2 years ago
I love Kimber 1911. I think I just jizzed in my pants watching this video.
B1gDaddy001 2 years ago
Hmm...I wanna get a "Crimson Trace" someday...
SuperGunsmith 2 years ago
Nutnfancy is the best. I agree with his evaluation of 1911's. They are good guns and I would feel well armed with one. However I prefer a more modern design like a Glock. I have a Glock 21 (.45 ACP) which I am selling. I am buying a Glock 19 (9mm). 9mm ammo is cheaper than .45 ACP ammo. For self defense with my Glock 19, I will buy 9mm +P JHP and I will be well protected.
odddreams 2 years ago 2
Sexy lol.
loren755 2 years ago
How bout the Colt Defender???
christlubas 2 years ago
kimber 1911 > glock blocky gun i hate the look of it..dont hate me for saying this
xr3verendx 2 years ago 44
I love you for that!
christlubas 2 years ago
I totally agree. Glock is just an ugly gun model. But they are extremely reliable so it's one of those cases where nobody can judge it by it cover. But I'd choose a 1911 over it anytime.
pieman888 2 years ago 3
The Glock is apparently quite reliable, but I got to try one at the police pistol range a few weeks ago (as part of a class I was taking) and I really hated the long trigger pull. I like the SA trigger of a 1911 much better.
crispiegee1 2 years ago
@xr3verendx There is no gun more beautiful than an 1911. However, in a gun fight; I'll be taking my G17, not my 1911.
DRCsyntax 8 months ago
@DRCsyntax I agree on the beauty. To me, the 1911 is the best looking firearm out there. I personally like the commander (4-4.24" barrels) because of the weight and distribution, but the 5" is visually spectacular.
gobbly1337 6 months ago
It really, at least for me, needs an ambidextrous safety, and Kimber SEEMS to have one which can fit a Crimson Trace grip - ie:a shorter lever that won't stump against the laser pointer.
Note: I'm a southpaw, and miss the days of the all ambi Kimbers like the CDP's.
Skaramine 2 years ago
That is one bad ass handgun. I love the Kimber wish I had one, I have a Rock Island compact 1911.
HolyShize 2 years ago
oo and wanted to say thanks again nutnfancy for a great tabletop. Hopefully i can put my first 1911 in my hands very soon!
noaffiliationsfr 2 years ago
something for everyone to thing about, I went to a gun store and held the Kimber Crimson Carry which is pretty much the same as the Kimber Pro carry w/ the laser, the gun felt great as kimbers usually do, HOWEVEr, i have large hands and when my finger is off of the trigger and down the side of the gun, my finger obstructs the laser so i have to consciously move my finger which might not be good in a stressful situation, still a great gun though and i will probably be picking one up very soon!
noaffiliationsfr 2 years ago
I have shot a lot, and 1911s are my all time favorites, just perfection.
Alex4757 2 years ago
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is that a real gun? sir
Savemylegos 2 years ago
Uh... Yes. That is a real gun.
Agalladorn848 2 years ago
1911 are the best and worth the money ;)
Danil1911 2 years ago
...all to no positive avail. So, if I'm the only guy with a poor Kimber Ultra II Custom Shop, no problem. But be aware... this Nutnfancy viewer has posted this comment to better inform you, the viewer of this one experience. Because I highly value Nutnfancy's review of this manufacturer's other guns, I trust you will most likely have a positive experience also. But I won't spend high dollar for a Kimber Custom Shop pistol again. Just my experience. Thanks for the opportunity to comment.
aabullet 2 years ago
ouch, there's gotta be something you can do. Its still not working? what did Kimber say?
Timisso1337 2 years ago
I really hesitate saying this, because I'm probably the only person with a bad Kimber Ultra II Custom Shop, but mine isn't reliable. It has failed to eject and stove piped since the day I first took it to the range. The selling dealer gave me alot of remedies: put 500 / 800 rounds through it; factory mags are bad, use Wilson Combat/ McCormick mags; won't run right for a limp wrist ( this isn't my first 1911 45); the local dealer's smith tuned it up; then I sent it back to the Kimber Custom Shop
aabullet 2 years ago
I really dig the 1911, but I also dig the glock, both for weight, price, mag capacity, and it's the first gun I fired. the first gun I would buy, being new to guns would be the glock, mostly because its simple to learn easy to shoot, and comes in a whole bevy of caliber, grip, frame, and barrel options.
MRdrPROkeithSR 2 years ago
im looking to buy a kimber.. either the pro carry or the ultra carry. which one would you reccommend??
mryangs 2 years ago
Man, Fuck the NRA. Join JPFO, or GOA, ...TODAY!
...But I see your point. Most of America is even more pussified than the NRA. (And I have to admit that Wayne LaPierre is a good writer who has some balls.)
Most importantly, buy copies of "Unintended Consequences" and "Molon Labe" and read them. Determine that it's not only gun freedom but ALL property rights that deserve your avid protection. Be a libertarian, Vote Libertarian, don't let the LP get hijacked.
Free State WYOMING!
libertarianjury 2 years ago
Kimbers are cool just be careful using them.
bigman671 2 years ago
The best thing about having a .45 is that you really don't need hollowpoints. the .451 inch round nose does the job just as good. The 1911 (originally) was not designed to use hollowpoint ammo because hollowpoints where not invented yet. Any fair quality modern (circa 1980 and later) 1911 should have no problems whatsoever using hollowpoints. If it does, then it's probably a bad magazine.
Stonyman65 2 years ago
Great review. I like them both but I have to agree - you get the same performance or better for less money with a Sig or even a Glock.
HassanMansour555 2 years ago
i want to have one..
sherwin1926 2 years ago
I recently got a Kimber Stainless Raptor II Custom. Yes it was expensive, yes it is heavy, yes it is full sized and not easily concealed, yes it doesn't like to feed hollow points when dirty. But man that gun is the nicest gun I have ever owned. It is loaded with tons of custom features straight from the factory. I recently bought the 22LR conversion and it shoots accurate as well on my frame. Only mods I would like is a few different pairs of grips and perhaps a set of the CR laser grips.
dbrutherford 2 years ago 3
From one Kimber owner to another, congrats on the new pistol! My Raptor ll Custom has been on order for 6 months, how long did you have to wait? Or did the dealer already have it in stock?
frei1furimmer 2 years ago
sweet gun. with a 1911 i would only feed it hardball ammo. no feeding issues, clean, dirty or otherwise.
benzodiazapines 2 years ago
his review and your comments make me really want one.
GuiltyGeist3000 2 years ago
Well I have a full size. I don't carry it and never really planned to. It is a heavy guy and with my ITAC holster I have to to tighten my belt up two more belt loops or else it will pull my pants down. I am not sure how must easier one of these carry models would be.
I am getting an air weight S&W or Ruger 38 spl for carry. Small light and easy to operate in a high stress situation. Plus the reliability of a revolver. Point and shoot.
dbrutherford 2 years ago
theres just something about the glock for me. im getting a G21 this week actually, cant wait to shoot it.
GuiltyGeist3000 2 years ago
i want a gun
jake4569 2 years ago 3
buy one then.
deusness 2 years ago 3
he like me may not be 21, to legally own a handgun.
GrenMoyo 2 years ago
ok...so wait till you're 21, then buy one. Easy ain't it.
deusness 2 years ago
nah bought my first pistol with my dad when I was 18. No need for waiting especially when Obama is brought into question.
my24939 2 years ago
do you even realize wtf we were talking about? If not, then i don't know why you even commented.
deusness 2 years ago
My point was you should buy a firearm now with your parents if you are underage before Obama screws you over.
my24939 2 years ago
I'd like to know how Obama is going to screw over millions of gun owners. We would NEVER loose our guns, there are far too many gun owners, both liberal and conservative. Not one person has brought up a good argument for this reason other then "Obama is bad, blah blah blah"
like freakin Sarah Pailin and McCain were such great choices...Health care reform and the wars we are fighting will be taking up most of his time. I'll eat my own words if our gun rights become an issue like health care.
hoboboxerjoe 2 years ago
Well my guess on how he would accomplish this is just make the cost of owning and maintaining a firearm so expensive that the majority would not be able to afford a gun. He has been caught lying about his stance on gun control and private ownership. I don't trust him and I think he may have a pretty good chance at accomplishing his goal do to people who think his legislation would be "the" way to get rid of bad guns. In the process all private guns would go away. I'd still have mine anyway.
my24939 2 years ago
well, it almost was. HR45 was a very real possibility, of course Im not trying to blame it on obama but he has been very anti-second amendment so far just check his past voting record. I do believe that Sarah Pailin and McCain were much better choices at least in the second amendment department.
Timisso1337 2 years ago
1911's will always have the second kind of cool. It's nostalgic, like the Single Action Army.
eleftedg 2 years ago 12
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yea right like someone is gonna be intimidated by a laser they cant see
jfizzay 2 years ago
The laser projects in the visible spectrum. As such, any environment that isn't sterile will have enough dust to at least let even the least observant asshole out there see the beam.
Especially if it's pointed near his head.
FeralCr 2 years ago
nice gun but you can get a gun with just as good quality for much less dosh.
redneck500 2 years ago
People buy stupider thing's....
*cough* jewelry
jackdoldseven 2 years ago
stupider seriously? i think the word your looking for is dumber
iamcondescending 2 years ago
If you want to get technical capitalize and add a period. Douche bag.
jackdoldseven 2 years ago
Yet, you forgot to put a comma, LOL.
ShyRobot 2 years ago
=[ ur m3@n
jackdoldseven 2 years ago
ur so rich
jdunlap96 2 years ago
not his guns, he barrows
FelTurtle 2 years ago
500-700? It's more like $1,000 but you get what you pay for.
schweinhund 2 years ago 3
$785 if you find a dealer that isn't out to rip you off... that's how much mine cost, including markup and an extra mag.
vwbmw93: I carry mine all the time. I use a defender holster, though. It wraps around your waist and holds an extra mag. You can put it anywhere around your waist so it is always comfortable, IMO. Pull it up so that it clears your belt high enough for an easy draw but it still keeps it firmly inside. It comes with a thumb-break strap but I never use it.
weirjf2 2 years ago
is it practical or comfortable to carry the 4 inch model in an inside the waistband holster?
vwbmw93 2 years ago
how much would one of these cost??
brianmorante 2 years ago
500-700 around
miniwick93 2 years ago
shit 1k+
blamsamblam87 2 years ago 4
I have the taurus 1911 really good gun just got a colt 1911 a1
Hogkillerm14 2 years ago
how does the colt compare?
RogueSpear55 2 years ago
Really don't know because i have been tied up with work but should take it out soon
Hogkillerm14 2 years ago
i would say that the Kimber metallurgy is superior to the Colt. I own a modern Kimber full size and a series 70 Colt Commander, and the steel on the Kimber is just a higher level of quality and workmanship.
jazzguitardotcom 2 years ago
Just picked up a Pro Carry II at a gunshow for 580$ : ) some guy traded it for a Glock 23 CRAZY. Best gun i have ever shot. I love it and i will always own a KIMBER!!! If you cant find a deal on one just save up the extra cash you cant go wrong with a Kimber.
zackFaithFD5450 2 years ago
Uh!. You suck. Thats a crazy freaking deal.
DanteCarberelo 2 years ago
seriously....do want! :(
RogueSpear55 2 years ago 2
Compared to the Springfield XDM, I found that I was able to shoot more accurately with a Kimber out of the box. I attribute that to the superior trigger on the 1911 style gun. I now shoot both guns pretty much the same, but it took me a while to get used to the longer trigger pull of the XDM. Both guns are super.
pdoflatearth 2 years ago
I absolutely L-O-V-E my Kimber. I have a full size 1911 custom. It has a ramped and ported barrell and a laser grip. It was not cheap. It shoots very well, and it has never failed me. My cary choice is my S&W M&P .45 it is easier to conceal, it holds more amo and it came with a spare mag. It cost less than half what my Kimber did. I will say Kimber makes the finest 1911 available off of the shelf. There are some customs but you will pay and wait a long time for it.
n8tex254 2 years ago
doran cmon why do u care wut other do to their weapons man, go enjoy ur bone stock blah guns then:)
lynette1953 2 years ago
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I hate this gun.
It looks like its been ripped from robocops hand.
Guns are for range shooting and personal defense. Theyre not some fashion icon.
Doran345 2 years ago
"They're not some fashion icon". In that statement you just admitted its almost too "pretty" to be a gun. Why not have a gun that looks nice. Its not girly, its not pink. Whats not to like about it.
tylerpomeroy 2 years ago
it is a nice looking gun.
Timisso1337 2 years ago
Yeah, because you can really judge the effectiveness of a weapon based on how "fashionable" it looks.
What an ignorant statement.
NSDominator 2 years ago
It's about what feels natural really. Everyone's got a preference. I'm still breaking in my Sig RCS, but man, I'm finding it to be the my prefered gun to shot. It's "easy" to be accurate; great sights, metal frame, and that SA trigger is AMAZING.
To hell with interchangeable backstraps; The shape of the 1911 is perfect for me. It's taken a bit of getting used to, but the more I shoot it, the more I fall in love.If I'd critique anything, It'd be mag capacity- solved by carrying another mag
salmonking007 2 years ago
"I dont think it rises to the level of a Sig or a Glock....." I just lost all respect for you Nutnfancy!
NoSweatOffMySack 2 years ago
Join the NRA
I just listened to an interview of UN spokesperson Rebecca (something) and "they" are using the fact that out of the 80 million gun owners in the US, only 4 million support their right to own guns via the NRA. Step up! Support or we are screwed. You will have to hand in your guns. Fight back and join!
anschultz21 2 years ago
Do you guys believe it is more important to have lots of rounds (in case of society breakdown) 9mm or the knock down of a 45?
anschultz21 2 years ago
Obviously, it depends on your marksmanship. With proper aim, even a .22 can theoretically take one down with one shot. Therefore, I am more comfortable with the higher capacity of a 9mm. They tend to be more accurate and forgiving.
gradyap01 2 years ago
Different strokes for different folks. Each round has it's proven applications; that's why they exist. People have being arguing over the "superior" round for years.
Percision gets your bullets where you want. Knockdown power keeps the target down.
Stopping power for the 45. is legendary. Capacity and low recoil is what get's the 9mm most of it's votes. I love them both, but each has it's own applications that they can shine in; an extra mag with the 45, and high power rounds for the 9mm.
salmonking007 2 years ago
good call salmonking, I prefer the precision and capacity that comes with a 9mm but the absolute cannonpower that a .45 offers is certainly useful in the proper applications
gradyap01 2 years ago
Wrong. A 9mm is not more accurate than a .45. Maybe if your intimidated by the recoil of a 45....
NoSweatOffMySack 2 years ago
Percision means percise, not accurate. Accuracy really comes down to the shooter. It's much easier learning to shoot the 9mm faster- ie. percision.
I see where you're coming from though, 45. just takes a little getting used to. I'm loving my new Sig RCS man. I think I've become a 1911 guy...
salmonking007 2 years ago
Yep, cant beat a 1911. Just curiouse tho, why do you say a 9mm is easier to learn with?
NoSweatOffMySack 2 years ago
Shooting is generally the same idea for all guns. Point, align sights, shoot. This is accuracy; hitting the point you aim at.
Double-tap training takes time; to make that recoil work for you and place multiple rounds in the same general area. This is percision.
The recoil of a 9mm is "tamer" and easier to manage than a 45 (the the metal frame of the 1911 helps). Ideally, it's easier and cheaper to 1st learn how deal with recoil in speed drills with a 9mm.
That's how i feel anyway, lol.
salmonking007 2 years ago
I guess i dont feel that there is anything precision about putting "multiple rounds in the same general area". I guess it depends on if you want to be able to hit a person or a penny. If i cant hit a 3" target at 25 yards every time im pissed. None of my glocks can do that. I will admit that most guns are more accurate than the person pulling the trigger. In my experience, my 1911 recoil less because of the weight, the sights are awesome, and the gun is just naturally more accurate.
NoSweatOffMySack 2 years ago
Probably because the 9mm is a little more accurate because its a higher velocity round.
tylerpomeroy 2 years ago
velocity does not always play a factor in accuracy. None of my 9mm shoot like my 1911's.
NoSweatOffMySack 2 years ago
it's not more accurate, the recoil is less, which makes quick follow-up shots have a quicker "learning curve". If you're wrists can handle the recoil of a 45, and you like 1911s, by all means, carry it.
I'm with Nutn' when he says carry what you shoot well. No more ballistics arguements, lol
salmonking007 2 years ago
the kimber 1911 pro tle 2 is a very nice gun my frends dad has 1 and he lests us shoot it. i just love how it feels!!!!
nara94 2 years ago
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i hate this guy, he tries to sound so damn smart but to me all i hear is blah blah blah I'm a stupid fuck.
DennisH8706 2 years ago
no one is forcing the movie down your throat. He is smart and knowledgeable about the topic. I don't get why you think he is stupid. Just a hater? lol
my24939 2 years ago 2
on the issue of the 1911 not being as good as a glock or sig.... i cant agree. when i was in the navy, i learned to shoot with the 1911. i will use the M-9, but i hate the double action system. as for the sig, the only thing i can say i dont like about them is the double action. all are great great guns but i feel that the 100 years of use and the design features make the 1911 a superior platform, no matter who makes it.
wwclay86 2 years ago
Andrea223344 and boxa1500 are only writing dumbass comments because they are form denmark and australia
I'm sorry you can't own a proper weapon to defend yourself but you can always move to diffrent country
fakemail4suckers 2 years ago 3
boxa1500, why in the world would you say that? Don't you believe in the second amendment?
Nutnbuff 2 years ago
You should insist that everyone joins the NRA TODAY in EVERY one of your videos!
This is SO important!! If we the people don't stand up and take the high chair... our chairs will be burnt to the ground before our very eyes!!
JOIN THE NRA PEOPLE!!
Metaphysicalman3 2 years ago 7
which reminds me, I need to renew my membership!
Timisso1337 2 years ago
this goes for andreas223344. YOU are an idiot!!!! you would waste your time writing a comment on something you consider pathetic. Why do you exist!!! You should go and off yourself with a knife(because you think guns are pathetic)
delch1989 2 years ago
I completely disagree with the guy, but telling him to go kill himself is not productive. Moreover it puts a negative connotation on guns and their respective owners.
MyDisciple 2 years ago 2
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Guns are pathetic. The idea of allowing citizens to own weapons to be able to defend to themselves from the state apparatus is out of date. Criminals are supplied with cheap guns from the weapons industry, or from burglaries. Only a misunderstood ideal of masculinity is left. Have fun guys (and masculine girls).. The only true winner is the weapons industry. Society is the loser.
andreas223344 2 years ago
hippie.
Dikkadidopa 2 years ago 4
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I agree to a point, average civilians should not be allowed anywhere near anything but pissweak hunting rifles, serious weapons should only be possessed by Law Enforcement Security and Military agencies.
boxa1500 2 years ago