Metallica Medley by afxwinter

[ZaxistTM]

the tone is defientely closest on "Of Wolf and Man"

[Vidmakr6302]

what song is that at 0.08?

[Wojteo92]

@Vidmakr6302 Blackened?

[jrhoden]

@laitela01

St. Anger is a good album...you must be smoking some really good crack

[laitela01]

@jrhoden then you must smoke some pretty powerful crack to think its good

[almor619]

@laitela01 but sorry .... you failed when you said the st anger album sucked ... it may not be your favourite but that does not make it a bad album ...

oh and gr8 vid ....

[laitela01]

@almor619 yea, and you might not want comment on something posted over 8 months a go... especially when you have no taste in music

[leicheterrorzone]

pretty close, just needs some eq. an esp explorer would probably help too haha

[thomasinx]

similar tone...but i've reached a better one using something completely different: peavey 6505+ combined with an equalizer

[Gyro911]

@thomasinx I highly doubt that. Ive 6505 with GEQ and the pedal totally kills the 6505 tone once in the effects loop. It doesnt carry the break up of tone like the mesa mark

[KvSwooo]

you fail, this is close but needs less mids more lows BTW take a joke you asshat

[laitela01]

I bet you dont know what are you talking about. Thats common mistake for metallica tone... "DIP OUT THE MIDS!". Its just some certain frequencies which make metallica's signature sounds..And im afraid the eq isnt limited to mark's build on eq. You gotta buy seperate eq and find out what frequencies pop out in guitars. And whats the joke? Was there some joke..?

[afxwinter]

I think people are going to like my newer clips even more than these. I have a nicer recording setup, a 2nd mic, a better cab now and an actual Gibson Les Paul Custom. My settings are different now, more geared to sound like the Garage Inc/Load tone. I just need to make a cool looking video and I'll post it up.

[laitela01]

This isnt even close to metallica's tone

[afxwinter]

LOL

[dbswann]

sounds pretty close to me, obviously its not going to sound exactly the same as a metallica album recording as this is youtube quality...

[KvSwooo]

fuck off back to St.Anger then

[OttoVonGoenne]

@laitela01 u have to be joking.

[iLikechevelle]

what is the song at 1:55?

[Persemb]

Of Wolf And Man

[iLikechevelle]

it's sick

[nizorox]

what do you run the head through?

[afxwinter]

At the time it was running through a Mesa Thiele 1x12, now it's going through a Mesa 2x12 Recto cab.

[Buzzbang6234]

Great Video and Great playing and tone! I love how you showed all your gear and how you have your recording setup!

By the way that guitar is the most under rated guitar ever! Those ESP ltd's deluxes are some of the biggest bang for buck guitar going!

[Gyro911]

You could have used a cheap yamaha with that Mark III and it would have sounded very close. the amp made the sound not the guitar

[doctorsadvocategame]

No dude, The amp helped. The Guitar has the same pickup configuration as hetfield, EMG 60 and 81

[zepvhrule]

Can you make a video of you playing more master of puppets like battery or disposable heroes?

[bulletproofprs]

why does it seem so week, wheres the umf

[afxwinter]

Yeah totally I expect nothing but hi-fi deliciousness from youtube. ;)

[zyxwfish]

it's not a mark IIC+ thats why

[ev1ltwin]

lol you're an idiot. ask any pro musician about the IIC+'s and the red/blue stripe mark III's. with the eq you can make them sound identical. keep drinking the IIC+ kool aid tho

[Gyro911]

Either way Metallica didnt only use the Mark IIC+.. They slaved a marshall along with it to smooth out the tone

[metalmike278]

hey what do you mean slaved????and god id sell my nuts for a mark 2c

[Gyro911]

Meaning that the Mesa Mark IIC+ is mixed with a marshall so those two amps were combined to create the metallica sound.

[chriscoooley]

the preamp of the mesa was put into the power amp of the marshall JCM800

[iLikechevelle]

how do you get into the power amp of the marshall? Via effects loop or straight into the front of the amp?

[chriscoooley]

i would do effects loop if i were setting this kind of setup, and thats probably what metallica did but im not really sure

[iLikechevelle]

yeah, I've seen kirk go straight into a jcm800 but I dunno why

[Gyro911]

Kirk uses a randall now.. he problem used the JCM's power amp from a mesa preamp as the guy above stated

[acdcfan7676]

that was only ride the lightning i believe

[JacksonESP13]

what stripe is your mark 3?

i am prob getting a blue stripe, simulclass, with el34's, and 6l6's.^^ can't wait

[afxwinter]

Mine's a red-stripe. Haven't played the other stripes myself so I'm not too familiar with the differences. I just read that mine's supposed to be the closest to a IIC+.

[peaveypower212]

woww so this is really you?

[afxwinter]

The Mark III's can be simul-class or non simul. I'd suggest getting one with simul and the graphic eq, the reverb doesn't matter so much, and the stripe isn't supposed to make to much of a diff, mine's a red-stripe in case you care.

[zepvhrule]

Is this actually the sound yourgetting out of the amp?

[afxwinter]

I wouldn't say it sounds the same in the room, you can get it to sound like this live but then it wouldn't work for recording, know what I mean? When you record quad tracks like I've done you have to back off the bass and gain a lot, so while a single track in the room sounds thin, combined with the 3 others and panned properly it sounds really fat.

[zepvhrule]

But would it give me a master of puppets metallica sound?

[afxwinter]

If your guitar has a nice bridge pickup, and you put a parametric EQ in the effects loop you can get the same tone from MOP yeah.

[zepvhrule]

What pickups do you have? and isnt there a little equalizer on the amp?

[afxwinter]

I have an EMG81 in the bridge. The amp has a graphic EQ on the front but it can't take out enough mids for it to sound like MOP on it's own.

[NSAaron]

buy a cheap graphic eq board and you can cut the mids.

[Soul5tream]

great sounds man.really authentic.

how about the drums? how did you make them? real or vst?

[afxwinter]

Those drums were done with Battery VST

[Gyro911]

Mesa's sound mean

[heinz454]

Yeah they do, but I wish I could get my Dual Recto sounding like Master of Puppets. Its a bit too fat... But yeah Mesa's are like the MAC truck of amps...

[isaacvillalobos]

hey!!! i can get the entersandman tone with my create and my esp truckster!!!!!

[SPAMMYWHOSPAM]

wow how amazing.

[ScArKiLLa45]

and it probably sounds like pure crap too. crate amps suck terribly.

[Activethrasher00]

the palamino is pretty badass. not for metal of course.. but it's a damn good sounding amp for what it is.

[acdc126]

tube amp produce better sound because high voltage give more dynamic to the signal and the saturation will not be squares but real waves. the trick in that mesa boogie, its boosted with a transistorized equalizer, also active pickup will boost a little more.

if you have an effect loop on your crate you can try to get that effect with a great equalizer that can give more db.

[noidn]

Sounds like really metallica. It's the best sounds I ever heard in sample recordings. Great job~!

[druckpig]

hi, nice i like that a lot, would you know if the mk3 combo capable of the same tones and gain if run through a cab, is it the same amp in the combo as the head version.

[petejt]

I will say that a full 4x12 loaded with V30s will achieve that thick top end crunch

[nehuge]

Nice...check out my Puppets medley using Mesa Mark IIC+ they themselves used on the album.

[BiZzAr0]

I don't know too much about tubes but can you explain to me in what order are the 6l6's and el34 put into the amp(as in which "socket"(if that's the correct word)they're put into)?

[openedskittles]

this amp, as well as like 99% of tube amps use 6l6 OR el34, dude, not both. the road king is the most famous example of one that uses both. no amp uses just 6l6 or el34, but very few use both. 6l6 and el34 are both power tubes, they go in the big sockets, the small sockets are for preamp tubes, sometimes theres an extra for a loop or reverb, and a medium socket is probably a rectifier tube. i assume this one has 6l6 in the power amp section and 12ax7 in the pre.

[BiZzAr0]

Wrong, It's a Simul-Class so has both 6l6s and el34s.

[boogieman00001]

Simul-Class can have both, but doesn't have to.

[carvinlegacy99]

I just got one of these last week (a green stripe 100w head). I find that I get the best Metallica tone from treble-8 with it pulled, mids-3, bass-0, lead channel with lead gain all the way up and input vol at about 7, no presence and the mids sucked out with the graphic eq. Great video man, it helped me decide to get the mk3, best amp I've ever had, thanks.

[IDKSOMTHIN]

NEEDS MORE CRUNCH

[petejt]

yes, needs more crunch, but less gain

the top end sounds too thin- it is gainy (too gainy) but not thick enough to be crunchy

[Evadlite]

What mic preamp do you use?

[xPrivateParkingx]

i have the same gee-tar except its in black cherry color

[chrisjd4]

haaha good job man, very cool!

[SPAMMYWHOSPAM]

Hmm.. that enter sandman drum sounds kinda its missing hi-hat... thats why it does sound empty and boring, anyway nice job!

[afxwinter]

It's Blackened, from And Justice For All

[dba00]

what's the intro song on this movie?

please i need it..

[stevehungary]

blackened

[tri99erjay]

Would love to get some of your settings, have a Mark III on my way to me.

[slashnumberonefan]

How did you run your sm-57 into the computer?

[afxwinter]

It goes into a mic preamp, then that goes to my M-Audio Delta 44 box which is hooked up to the computer.

[brbong]

wat settings are you using besides the v pattern in the eq...do you have all the brigh switches pulled out

[Pier88ita]

sounds like a ada mp-1 with mod 3.666

[2000ContourSVT]

Hey. Your the afxwinter that was working with Neubourn on the Forzamotorsport forum on that Hr Giger car right. Its been so long since ive been on there but anyway nice job on the video. Your tone sounds real good. Did you record the drums on your own or are they programmed.

[ivelliosy]

can u add master of puppets and sad but true with MARKlicious !!

[ivelliosy]

Hi Gorgeous tone great ooo !! i m going to buy a Mark IV But i havent decided to buy Combo or Only head , if i buy head i would probably run through 1960A Marshall what's your thing? combo or head thx.. It's f*ckin overheat tone =))) !!!

[afxwinter]

thanks!

I'd definitely go for a head and cab. The combos are all open-backed and severely lack bottom-end. I use my Mark III head through a Mesa/Boogie Thiele 1x12 cab. It's portable and can be as loud and as bassy as I want it to be.

[GATvsGAT]

It doesn't really matter. I have a Mark III combo and I disconnect the internal speaker and run it through 2 4x12 cabs. No difference between the head and the combo if you run it this way.

[Chrono0210]

Don't you play Forza? If I remember correctly you painted the Chrono Trigger cars. Anyways, kickass job with the vids. Your tone is unbelievable. It made me consider retubing my amp with 6l6's.

[afxwinter]

yeah i did the chrono car.

6l6's add a lot of bottom end, which is why I use this amp in simul-class mode with 6l6's and el34's.

[josemi21]

This is great this is great!! This should be the video response for all metallica´s demos videos played with digital processors that are all over youtube..

[snapascrew]

how did you get ur mark 3 done in 3d

[afxwinter]

I built it in 3D Studio Max

[petejt]

much more complex than that. Hetfield run the IIC+ through a Marshall for one layer track, a modified Marshall 1959 SLP (his second modded Marshall, the first was stolen) for the 2nd layer track, a straight MarkIV head for a layer track, and also an ADA MP-1 preamp thrown in there for harmony stuff- everything through three 4x12 Marshall cabs & 1 Boogie cab, then all of it mic'ed with 8 close mics & 2 overhead mic's, and all of it closed off with foam walls and U-Haul blankets! Phew!

[youwillbowtome]

wow, i didnt realise they were so perfectionist. Id have thought with that kind of obsession theyd have a lot of stompbox effects, but they pretty much never use delays or phasers etc, just chorus. Can you tell me where you got this info please.

[davidr1193]

u just made me waste 4 minutes and 59 seconds

on watching ur stupid amp over and over again

u just used the same animations

over and over and over again

and ur blackened evrsion was too slow

it sucks

[afxwinter]

Hahahahah ok there. I'll see if my next video can be as cool as your fuel slideshow, how's that sound?

[davidr1193]

if u add more stuff to your vid it will be better

because i saw the same stuff over and over again and i was like

whats happening???

[afxwinter]

I think you want more horsemask. Am I correct in that assumption?

[Bennettsito]

Awesome!

[tommyhawkthirteen]

Sick! Tell me about your parametric settings. I couldn't quite make them out on the Boogie Board.-

[BiZzAr0]

Another thing, does the mark IV have more gain than the mark III?

[afxwinter]

I've never played a mark IV but I believe the consensus is that the mark III sounds more aggressive than the IV.

[ESPlayer666]

The Mark III I would say is crunchier and the Mark IV is more smoother and versatile. Their is almost no end to the tones you can get on the Mark IV. You can get a Metallica tone on the IV spot on no problem. Listen to Lamb of God, John Petrucci, and of course James Hetfield. James used IIC+ but the lead tone is the same as the IV.

[afxwinter]

I'd have to agree with most of what you're saying except that it is widely known that the Mark III is the closest amp you can get to the IIC+ without actually getting a IIC+. The only difference is the power transformer from what I've read. The similarity to the IIC+ is the whole reason I bought my Mark III since the IIC+ on the Black Album is my favorite guitar tone of all time.

[petejt]

that's right. The MarkIV lead preamp circuit is exactly the same as the IIC+, but the poweramp has a different feel, and also a slightly lower midrange voicing.

[ESPlayer666]

yep yep :)

[thagirion656]

is that to say that.. if i slaved a mark III into the powersection of my 1984 JCM 800 (drake transformer), the poweramp of the mark III would be disregarded, and it would be very similar to slaving a mark IIC+ into a marshall?

[carvinlegacy99]

I read the Metallica used 6550 tubes in their Marshall power amp, and I would suppose it was 100w, so if your 800 is 100w with 6550 then yes, also, its apparently pretty easy to mod a mk3 into a mk2c+, any decent amp modder should be able to do it

[BiZzAr0]

shit dude you got me headbanging there

the horse head just made me rofl for the shear out-of-placeness

[petejt]

yeah, that horsehead was hilarious! :D

[eddit]

I really like your tone. Especially during the Of Wolf and Man riff. It really shows it off there.

[greenevil777]

Sounds very, very close! What stripe version is it? What pre and power tubes are you using?

[afxwinter]

It's a red stripe. Using all Mesa brand power/pre tubes. The power section is 2 6l6's and 2 el34's running in simul mode. The pre's are just M/B 12ax7's. I never found out what Hetfield was using in his IIC+ at the time but since he liked to slave the thing into a Marshall JCM800's power section I figured the el34's would help.

[diablosrising]

From what I remember reading, the Marshall they used had 6550's in it, which were stock tubes in all of the 2203's shipped to America.

[greenevil777]

Great tone!! Is that a Mark IIc+ or the Mark III?

[afxwinter]

I wish it was a IIC+ heheh. It's a Mark III. I bought it to try to get as close as possible to the IIC+ without selling my soul. ;)

[acdc126]

i have the schematics of both and its so closed to be the same amp that i cant found a different for the moment but the schematic of the mk3 is not very clear

[eeviac1]

sounded great dude - there was defo some real metallica crunch tone in there - esp eye of the beholder

[dwq1971]

Any effects? Amp distortion or pedal distortion. That sound is sick!

[afxwinter]

For the clean part for Enter Sandman I added chorus/reverb on the VST plugin I was using (Guitar Rig 2). The distortion was amp distortion. I'm not too confident that pedal distortion could get the Metallica tone I was going for. Glad ya like the tone!

[Slaynyc]

AWESOME JOB!!!

Peace

SLAY

[acdc126]

you use a roland jc120 for the clean sound?

[afxwinter]

I recorded direct for that part and used Guitar-Rig 2's JC120 in Cubase.

[acdc126]

oh my god! i cant believe it make that result, its so much better than the demos of metallica, very near to the albums, i hope ill get that distortion one day...

enter sandman intro sound perfect too!

[GuitarLucius]

Nice job bro. Cheers, Lucius