Let me ask you a question. Why do you care? It is just a video. If you don't give it any attention, then it becomes meaningless to you.
Another concern for me is this... Why would you care about Palestinian statehood? The greatest concern for a human being should be the well being of other humans. Not if a State should exist or not. Technically there should be no states. Since the existence of states allows anarchy and anarchy allows war, terror, and suffering. Care about humans for once, girl
@SmartGuy4today Because Israel's illegal occupation and illegal settlements are the source of the violence there. If the Palestinians were allowed a country on their own land there would be no terrorism.
Is your mind solely glue to lawfulness that it has become blind to more important things?
1) Why is occupation bad?
2) How could you regard what Israel is doing is occupation?
3) How is Palestinian territories regarded as true legitimate entity?
4) What about the Palestinian people? Currently right now they enjoy more rights inside Israel as Israeli Arabs than they would outside of Israeli and especially in Palestinian Death Camps, which are orchestrated by fellow Palestinians and other Arabs.
Is your mind solely glue to lawfulness that it has become blind to more important things?
1) Why is occupation bad?
2) How could you regard what Israel is doing is occupation?
3) How is Palestinian territories regarded as true legitimate entity?
4) What about the Palestinian people? Currently right now they enjoy more rights inside Israel as Israeli Arabs than they would outside of Israeli and especially in Palestinian Death Camps, which are orchestrated by fellow Palestinians and other Arabs.
Is your mind solely glue to lawfulness that it has become blind to more important things?
1) Why is occupation bad?
2) How could you regard what Israel is doing is occupation?
3) How is Palestinian territories regarded as true legitimate entity?
4) What about the Palestinian people? Currently right now they enjoy more rights inside Israel as Israeli Arabs than they would outside of Israeli and especially in Palestinian Death Camps, which are orchestrated by fellow Palestinians and other Arabs.
"If the Palestinians were allowed a country on their own land there would be no terrorism."
And what truth does this stand upon? Lebanon has terrorism and its a free Arab state. Egypt has terrorism.
What deductive logic are you using to establish this certainty, because I'm telling you that it won't. Right now there are small bits of land not occupied that could as easily be called free. Yet... those free bits of Palestinian territories are the most inhospitable by its own leaders. Get it?
Point I am making is that you should try to understand what the actual problem is.
Analyze the matter scientifically and rationally. First, we observe what is the issue. Then we observe what is going on and detail differences on these accounts at different locations. To see if they are uniform and true. From what we can detail is that sure, life is quite bad in Palestine and certainly the Israelis play a defiant role in it. However, Arab life seems better in Israel even more so than in Egypt.
Point I am making is that you should try to understand what the actual problem is.
Analyze the matter scientifically and rationally. First, we observe what is the issue. Then we observe what is going on and detail differences on these accounts at different locations. To see if they are uniform and true. From what we can detail is that sure, life is quite bad in Palestine and certainly the Israelis play a defiant role in it. However, Arab life seems better in Israel even more so than in Egypt.
So the truth of the matter is should we really decide on independence, when Arabs appear to live better lives in Israel than otherwise. And certainly the better living conditions would present less terrorism. I mean look at the rest of the Arab World for a second. Given what we see and admit that Palestinians are no exception that wouldn't their little state be the same as any other Arab hell on Earth? Literally, Arab life outside of Israel is HELL. You have zero freedom unless you are Muslim.
And when you are Muslim, you have to be a man and a heterosexual and deeply religious or tied closely to family elites. The poor are treated horribly and it is expected as a norm due to their religion. All of this permeates from the Islamic Faith. Sure some Muslim countries or areas are better, Kurdistan, Iran, Indonesia, ect... But you have to understand. Indonesian Islam is a hybrid of Islam and Southeast Asian Morals, which are deeply Pro-Feminist. Iran has a history of favoring Innovation.
Meanwhile, in the Arab World, innovation unless it is tied to the secular elite (Princes/Emirs) amounts to nothing and is discouraged. People are expected to be subordinate and submissive as if they were slaves. And the Religion is dictated by the Mullahs and Muftis, thus we have system of slavery not much different than what the Chinese had depicted in Tibet. So what is really the problem? Is it Israel's somewhat benevolent expansion or is it Islam violent suppression of a person's humanity?
Islam has everything to do with conflict. The major reason for war has always to do with religion. Have you never studied history before? Crusades, Russian Revolution, French Revolution, WWII, Holocaust, Inquisition, Reconquista, Iranian Revolution, current Arab Spring, and every single Arab-Israeli war has to do with religion.
"If Israel wants peace they need to get off the land they have no legal claim to."
That won't create peace. There is no peace in Libya, Libya is not occupied by Israel
Missy, you are ignoring the actual problem. it has nothing to do with Israel occupying Territory. If Territory was the matter then how come when Israel gave back the Sinai that it never had made any bit of the situation between Israel and Egypt more peaceful. Instead, Egyptians are routing for Israel to give up the West Bank. However, West Bank is higher elevated and perfect for shooting rockets to move Israelis towards the Sea. You call that propaganda, but read their Quran. It says do this.
@SmartGuy4today Israel took the Sinai illegally and in 1970 they said they were not going to leave and they said that they were going to build permenant settlements. Well that got them a war in 73. Then there was a treaty with Egypt and since then Egypt has been in the pocket of Israel.
Egyptians want them to give back the West Bank because Israel has zero legal claim to it
Egypt attacked Israel, illegally. Egypt establish a federation with Syria, called the United Arab Republic solely to surround Israel and destroy it.
But do you really think Palestinians are legitimate people? Many of them are just Arab migrants who transverse through the Middle East to find employment during a time of Industrial Revolution thanks to Jewish Migrants from Russia that came into the Ottoman Empire. And later during the Palestinian Mandate. We had this in USA called Great Migration
Prior to 1948, Arabs in Palestine had Syrian citizenship cards, not Palestinian ones. The only people who acquired Palestinian citizenship prior to 1948 and participated in the Palestinian government (aside from negotiations and diplomacy, which a state entity does with foreigners) were the Jews. And those Jews merely renamed their state as Israel. Just as Zaire renamed it self back to the Congo.
Palestinians are not Palestinians, they are Syrians. Their culture and history stems from Saladin.
"and they said that they were going to build permenant settlements"
Only a small minority of people. Just as there was a small minority of people in the United States that wanted to annex Mexico after the American-Mexican War. You cannot seriously take that kind of information seriously.
"Well that got them a war in 73."
The Yom Kippur War has nothing to do with the Six-Day War except that the Arabs had lost. In fact, Israel won the 1973 war by a tactical victory. So why forfeit land?
Besides, the Sinai is occupied territory too. The indigenous inhabitants are Bedouins and they hate the mistreatment made by Egyptians. So how is the Sinai occupied land or illegal occupied land, when it never belonged to Egyptians just as Samaritan land does not belong to Jews and the Bedouins welcomed the Jewish visitors.
"Then there was a treaty with Egypt and since then Egypt has been in the pocket of Israel."
Not it is not. Egypt's dictators are inline with Israel solely to acquire more control over its people, not the state or country it self. The people have always been adamantly anti-Jewish since Pharaohic days.
"Egyptians want them to give back the West Bank because Israel has zero legal claim to it"
Yes they do. The partition of Palestine was never legalized, thus Palestine never separated into two.
Also there are plenty of countries that occupy territory from other countries and has never lead to any conflict. When America occupied Japan after WWII that had no serious problems of terrorism. When America had occupied and still does occupy Native American lands, you don't see today Native Americans taking on stray jackets and killing Americans. By the way, I'm part Cherokee. America was created out removal and genocide of my people, so what right do you have to tell Israel to do anything?!
@SmartGuy4today When the US occupied Japan they were not impeading the economy, stealing resources and building settlements there so your comparison doesn't work here.
"When the US occupied Japan they were not impeading the economy, stealing resources and building settlements"
Oh yes they did. American Military Bases in Japan hold permanent residence complexes and people who reside in them are considered on U.S. Territory and if born there as U.S. citizens, thus are settlements. And America did establish capitalism in Japan's economy and stole much of Japan's imperial resources when we took away their possessions.
@SmartGuy4today Military Bases do not even compare with Illegal Settlements in the West Bank. Bases do not keep the people from other cities and to not pollute the land the way Israeli Settlements do by destroying the groundwater. Most of this is not even usable to Palestinian farmers. Again you are making a falacious argument.
My comparison does work. You need to know your facts before you dictate.
"BTW I am also 1/4 Cherokee."
Oh really? What tribe? I'm the descendent of a White Clan member, a Chief to be exact from a tribe in North Caroline. Still around today in the far Eastern corner of the state,
Israel has been Palestinian ever since Herodotus names it "Palestain" in the 5th century BC.
Funny thing is that it is Jewish history that is entirely built on mythology: "ancient Israel was no more than a small tribal kingdom at best" - Ze'ev Herzog (Israeli archaeologist).
"Jewish history in Palestine is nothing but a small ripple in amongst the vast ocean of Palestinian history." - K. W. Whitelam in "The Invention of Ancient Israel: The Silencing of Palestinian History."
The fact is that Israel is by persecuting Palestinians it is violating Human Rights.
There are no ifs, ands, or buts about this.
And nobody can label this Anti-Semitism either, because if it was anti-semitic then it would be against the Jews as a race. Also, Anti-Semitism does not include racial hatred or hostlity of just jews, it also includes arabs as well since they are semites too.
FACT: There are no “Palestinian people” or “Palestine entity.” Palestinians are not native to the Land of Israel because Palestinians are Arabs who came from other lands. All of the Land of Israel belongs exclusivelyto the Jewish people. Why, because the G-d of Yisrael gave it ONLY to the Jews.
Happiness... There is no Palestine. There was a Palestine prior to 1948, only Jews went to get a Palestinian citizenship. No Arabs. Palestinian Nationalism, if you can call it nationalism, is relatively new. It use to be Syrian Nationalism stemming from the pride of the Syrian Sultanate that has existed, especially during the Ayyubid Dynasty and its most famous leader, Saladin. Of course, I doubt someone like you has actually studied Arab History. Freaking illiterate dumbass.
Since only Jews had applied for citizenship and the only matter that had tied any Arabs to being Palestinians was the United Nations, which is kind of malicious, and thus the only Palestinians were the Jews then when the Jews had proclaimed their land as a state, they had thus renamed their country from Palestine to Israel. Zaire had done this, renaming it self back to the Congo. Also, only some Arabs are Semites, no one in North Africa is a Semite, except certain Bedouins.
Sr I have a question, why do you believes the actual jews to have any divine right to posess this land since the vast majority of them do not have any genetic relationship with the original israelites? (they are 99% converts of the 7th century). ¿They have permission to do anything to retain it because is God will?
@ubersett what evidence you have for this? khazar theory was disporven long time ago. genetic data shows all jews share a common middle east origin. and ashkenazim are more related to other jews, than to their host populations.
@mullahomar007 "Recent genetic studies, based on Y chromosome polymorphic markers, showed that Ashkenazi Jews are more closely related to other Jewish and Middle Eastern groups than to their host populations in Europe." - European Journal of Human Genetics.
also yiddish language. has a large amount of Hebrew and Aramaic influence, but no turkic influence at all. also somke influence from Romance language, proving they came from west to east europe.
@mullahomar007 Huge genetic project between the World Jewish genetic research conducted in relation to other nations , (conclusion) that most of the DNA of Jews around the world originated in the Middle East. Kazr origin story of the legend (the Hasidic) was not really an Empire Kazrit, this particular story of thousands of Hasidic tales, elements hostile to Israel, chose the story as an attempt to detach them from their historical home land
Far as I see it this video is only supporting and advocating racism a nd racial superiority. It is no secret that jews call everyone else gentiles. they are the only people that has a name for everyone else. Thats because you are either jewish or less than jewish.....
now about this video i did not see it couse its not giving any Evidence
i do not think thares People called Palestinians because there is no proof of the existence of their country and their names also indicate that thay are from the Arab countries around israel like iraki wich from irak
I sorry that I can only say that your comments lacks any logic and is void of substance. In other words you would have had a better standing had you said nothing.
To say that there is no people called Palestinians is just advocating to the genocide in progress in Palestine. Any proof that you can give that there was a past Israel and Israelis I can show you equal proof of that there was a Palestine and Palestinians. Currently they have been "wiped of the map". Sounds familiar?
Ok so what we call it is more important than the 10,000 you say were killed in 60 yrs. You want to take the focus off the killings and put it on the "name" of it. LOLOLOL. Who do u think is really listening to your twisted kind of brainwashing talk anymore. THE WORLD HAS WOKEN UP TO WHAT IS REALL HAPPENNING OVER THERE SO CUT IT OUT NOW.
Alsoabout 1.5 million Palestinian civilians have died by Israeli violence since 1948. Source...The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" (Oxford,2003).
Imagine you are putting Benny Morris as a source. LOLOLOL. Benny Morrris just cannot be recognised as a credible source on the subject matter. By the way wasn't he chastising Ben Gurion because he did not rid Palestine of ALL the Palestinians? LOLOLOL and you want to reference that as a source. LOLOLOLOL
@fredmcmurray00 first thing aharech is not a source its anti-Israel and they caught more than once lieing in this article still does not prove any genocide
The opposite he condemn the atrocities against the Arabs is talking about why thay had to expel some of the Arabs
You did not read the article I suggest you see the clip
Do not go what you want I brought you a person that I think a lot more objects you do not agree then fine say in what what you're thinking what does this have to do with logic its my opinion
Climate debate
Do not say your opinion is wrong so you did not ok
@fredmcmurray00 first i am not struggling you final lesson is The most stupid thing I've heard If someone tells you I don't like yellow because yellow is black it could be 1000 reasons such as Someone says you yellow as black He may say that its a bad color Or for him this paint disgusting like that black disgusting to you You see you like to interpret things not as they are or distort them Like you do with history
NO The truth is that there was no attacking going on between Palestinians and Jews in Palestine before zionists came to try and steal the land and therefore Palestinians had to DEFEND their country. Just like you say you defending Israel now. But is it yours???? maybe you have some control now. but it aint yours ......NEVER EVER YOU HEARE ME NEVER !!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I see you know how to curse and insult and be violent just like your zionist friends. I suppose its what you do best...you were not doing it at the beginning I guess its especially when you realize that you cannot trick the other person with lies and deceit. Like I said and you have proven you have no logic and have shown empty discussion....... I guess "the truth does hurt" LOLOLOLOLOLOL
I see the truth still hurting....Jewish Nakba is just a counter to the Palestinian Nakba. First it is unreal to begin with and second the numbers they claiming is like 1 jew to 100 palestinians. see the lack of logic again. LOLOLOLOLOL
There you go again,,,jumping up and down and insulting people....It happens every time that you are stuck up against the truth. BYE BYE now you are too indecent for me to continue.
"deportation by themselves" I like that one. U fail at logic so now you trying comedy....or could be thats made up so you can sleep at night. You never did anything to hurt anyone lololololol. Reality is that you will not be able to live with a clean conscience. all their life trouble will follow your people because injustice always needs to be paid back. "crime doesn't pay" ever heard that.....???
By The last lesson I gave you there is no doubt you are wrong, wrong, wrong …..I attacked no one…all the attacking has been done by your guys by invading an innocent people in their own country and then degrading them in every imaginable way and then some.
Then after that you guys attack their history by rewriting it many times denying that they even existed. guys like your benny morris etc…But their bones lie under the earth where they once lived and their souls survive the earthly punishment that your guys gave them and their indomitable spirit haunts the invaders so that their guilt will never let them be at peace.
"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine..."
Fuck religion, this genocide of humanity should not be!!! The native americans now the palestine people, fucking disgusting and nothing holy about it!!!
There was never a nation named Israel until 1949. There are no official records of a nation named Israel -- Only administrative areas of Rome called Judea and Palestina. Neither of these regions were ever considered nations.
So I guess Israel and Palestine both don't exist if we go by the history of the world.
The Bible does not count as a historic work since almost nothing in it can be proven scientifically.
Very few things can be proved scientifically. Science is nothing more than a theory that hasn't been proven wrong yet, and because it hasn't yet been proven wrong it is assumed to be right even though it hasn't been proven to be true. Science has been rewritten dozens of times and it's only a matter of time before it gets rewritten again.
As for historical evidence of Israel's pre-1948 existence, there have been several huge archaeological finds in the land of Israel which date back to Biblical times.
Judea was the name of Israel in Roman times. In fact Roman records show and prove that the Jews were living in the land at the time and had their sovereignty taken away by the Romans. Whatever the Romans wanted to call the land they never tried to deny to Jewish inhabitants' existence.
The Romans only renamed the land Palestinia after the failed Jewish rebellions of the 1st century CE, in order to try and remove any Jewish presence in the area, which is also why the destroyed the Temple.
You cannot deny that the Jews ruled that land long before 1948, and to do so is ludicrous
Actually Science is nothing more than a tool which examines and bring in information. It cannot confirm or validate information. Deduction is the philosophical tool we use to validate truth, not science.
The accounts of Israel's existence is in history, not science. And almost all accounts of history cannot be proven with science.
Israel's existence is validated as true by all members of each respected religion by their own sacred books. History is nothing more than stories recorded long ago
And when the British took over the region from the Ottomans, it became again Palestine, but the Jews were the only people to identify themselves as Palestinians.
Palestine is not a country in the Arab World. It is a Military District of the Syrian Sultanate. Its ruler is a military general of the Syrian Army with no formal title of his own. It is not like Kuwait, an emirate. It is a military district like the French Occupied region of Germany after WWII and prior to West Germany's formation.
No, before the brits were there it was palestine under the ottoman rule. Before that it was still called Palestine. Palestine isn't a military districtt to the arab world. Its a country, and it is going to be a country. The jewish people had no right to take over. Its as if the moores take back spain from the spanish people. Rightfully, and truly it is called palestine. Israel is just a phase.
Nations aren't named after States, idiot. There is no nation called Saudi Arabia, United Kingdom, Russia, People's Republic of China, United States of America, Japan, Germany, or Iran. These are states, not nations. YOU ARE SO STUPID!
Russians is the nation, Russia is the state. Hebrews (Jews and Hebrew Speaking People) is the nation, Israel is the state.
Goodness, get yourself some education. Take up a geography course. What is your extent of knowledge? Have you ever been to college?
Do you truly know who is Elohim?Next Question..Who are the real JEWS?Clue...They were not descended from the medieval communities of the Rhineland located in west Germany.Otherwise known commonly today as the Ashkenazi Jews!
The moral compass of anti-Semites, Jew haters and anti-Zionist is self-defeating. Their hatred towards the Jewish people is diabolic and evil. They are ungrateful towards their parents. For Islam was born of the womb of Judaism. The father and mother of thier religion Islam and of all Muslims.
There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc.
And everyone should, but Unfortunately, Dont know that the desicable, And humiliating "religion" of Christianity, is a 100% Jewish religion created by jews, for Non-Jews, to follow, While they themselfes, At best, practice the far more intelligent, but equally loathsome, religion of Judaism!!!,
In one paragraph you rail against Christianity, and in the next against materialism, when, in fact, the teachings of Christ were oriented towards the spiritual rather than the material.
These are the two sides of the 'psychological coin,' each of which finds resonance within its respective hemisphere of the brain.
The Jewish conception of deity is all-encompassing in regards to these primal orientations, even as your perceptions seems to be.
USA and GB are responsible founding this artificial nest of hostile settlers, solely based on an event that never took place in the first place. Except of the ancestors of those people living in Palestine before 1918 (Jews, Christians and Moslems), the rest I consider being invaders, and thus should be moved to their moral homeland, USA.
You could give them a new wonderland, Jewada? There they could built their fake Jewrusalem in Las Jewas? USA must solve its problems at home, not abroad.
The problem to which you so mis-informedly allude is neither American nor modern. It is ancient--the establishment and maintenance of a cosmological neutral zone.
To grasp the situation, look to the Sumerian stories wherein humankinds origins and orientations are explained most closely to the source. The presence which men call god contains rival factions. The Jewish conception of deity reflects a neutrality between the factions; This is why they were Chosen to occupy the neutral zone
The establishment of Israel in 1948 is justified because of 6000 years old Sumerian religious "stories"?
Well, you have the gift of the gab, but your gift won't get to me. You see I am word-blind as to Sumerian stories and other tales from old Semite temples of propaganda.
The Sumerians were pre-Semitic and there most direct cultural descendents, the (Semitic) Assyrians, conquered many of the tribes of Israel, splintered them, and deported the survivors to disparate regions of the earth, thereby negating their influence via multiculturalism.
The most direct western spread of Sumerian influence was likely to the Greek isles where the Hellenic Pantheon is a direct cultural transposition of the 12 Annunaki gods and goddesses.
Or Why not "Give" them Canada??, They Already control it anyway!,
Or maybe JEWmaica, And kill of all those disgusting rastafarians, first,
Or Tyrkia, Mongolia, Or Australia, There are many possibileties!!, - But Israel, whoever is an illigimate, "criminal", state, if there ever was one, - And should be wiped completely of the map, I is supposed to be Palestine!!!, And the Middle-East is Arab land, not Jewish!!!, The Jews are nothing but degenareted, and Mongolized Turks,
That's absolute nonsense. The Jews are the only legitimate inhabitants of the neutral zone, or Holy Lands, due to cosmological neutrality of Yahweh. This is why they were Chosen.
As for your racial explanations, consider this: If a group which you find so dispicable is as dominant of world affairs as you claim, then what does this say about your own racial constitution?
- I Despise, and loathe christianity, And seek to Destroy it, The Same way it has destroyed all cultures of the World, natural healthy Values, depraved, and brainwashed, and destroyed my people Mentally, and spiritually, - And re-Store those, and my proud ethnic pagan culture, and traditions,
Behavior matters more than cultural-specific labels.
For example, in the Antichrist, Nietzsche speaks favorably of the original manifestation of the Hebrew god when such a god was an expression of a bold, domineering and nationalistic culture---a god of good and evil, as was the behavior of the leader of leaders, King David.
It is apparent to me that some among the Jews are reawakening to such Davidic strength.
Nietzsche's complaint against latter forms of Judaism, and with Christianity, which he sees as the cosmological manifestations of subjugated peoples, is that they command their followers to behave in opposition to the life-force inherent in nature, and are, therefore, life-denying, rather than life-affirming.
In our times, this life-denying approach emanates from the political Left, the great 'religion' of our era
The mindset of King David, the Hebrew Overman, is the cure for weakness
I despise Nietszche, as the sheer birthgiver of this new movement of "exestenscial nihilism", And wiew it merely as YET, another excstension of Judaism, and Christianity, Or Judeo-Christianity, like globalism, modernism, socialism, capitalism, communism, etc, etc, etc,
Though Nietzsche is associated with---and was influenced by---nihilism it must be pointed out that ardently opposed nihilism, on the grounds that it exalts fantastical unreality, thereby devaluing the impassioned reality of existence.
1) Actually, very few understand why some are chosen---it is because their cosmology represents a neutrality between opposing forces. In order to understand this, one has to look to the wisdom of the Sumerian stories wherein we find the origins of Yahweh, who is in fact a composite character formed primarily from the Annunaki brothers Enki and Enlil.
Yes, indeed, but the problem is that you,(You beeing YOU, The Jews), - force your "treasure", on to the entire World, When we, the rest of the World, dont want it, or NEED it,
It is like someone With a giant sack of glossy cheap, glittery gold-Coins, And Diamonds, trying to push it on Another man, When in fact the Other man, has no need, or desire, Whatsoever for such cheap, And Vulgar Materialism in his life!!,
All living things struggle for dominance and resources. Viability is demonstrated by dominance.
The Jews did not create greed within humanity, nor can they end it, nor can any other group. If the allegations of international Jewish financial dominance are true, then you blame them for winning at a game you would rather have won yourself.
Besides, if the Jews were so influential in the realm of finance as many claim, then the Muslims wouldn't be buying their way into Europe and America.
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Jews are evil racist and are hated all over the planet
smeggerss 4 months ago
The temple of the antichrist must not be constructed, however I show my support for Israeli's anti-jihadist campaign.
SlavicFront88 4 months ago
It figures a bullshit propaganda video like this would have the ratings disabled.
MsZeitgeist85 5 months ago
Let me ask you a question. Why do you care? It is just a video. If you don't give it any attention, then it becomes meaningless to you.
Another concern for me is this... Why would you care about Palestinian statehood? The greatest concern for a human being should be the well being of other humans. Not if a State should exist or not. Technically there should be no states. Since the existence of states allows anarchy and anarchy allows war, terror, and suffering. Care about humans for once, girl
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
@SmartGuy4today Because Israel's illegal occupation and illegal settlements are the source of the violence there. If the Palestinians were allowed a country on their own land there would be no terrorism.
MsZeitgeist85 4 months ago
Is your mind solely glue to lawfulness that it has become blind to more important things?
1) Why is occupation bad?
2) How could you regard what Israel is doing is occupation?
3) How is Palestinian territories regarded as true legitimate entity?
4) What about the Palestinian people? Currently right now they enjoy more rights inside Israel as Israeli Arabs than they would outside of Israeli and especially in Palestinian Death Camps, which are orchestrated by fellow Palestinians and other Arabs.
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
Is your mind solely glue to lawfulness that it has become blind to more important things?
1) Why is occupation bad?
2) How could you regard what Israel is doing is occupation?
3) How is Palestinian territories regarded as true legitimate entity?
4) What about the Palestinian people? Currently right now they enjoy more rights inside Israel as Israeli Arabs than they would outside of Israeli and especially in Palestinian Death Camps, which are orchestrated by fellow Palestinians and other Arabs.
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
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Is your mind solely glue to lawfulness that it has become blind to more important things?
1) Why is occupation bad?
2) How could you regard what Israel is doing is occupation?
3) How is Palestinian territories regarded as true legitimate entity?
4) What about the Palestinian people? Currently right now they enjoy more rights inside Israel as Israeli Arabs than they would outside of Israeli and especially in Palestinian Death Camps, which are orchestrated by fellow Palestinians and other Arabs.
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
"If the Palestinians were allowed a country on their own land there would be no terrorism."
And what truth does this stand upon? Lebanon has terrorism and its a free Arab state. Egypt has terrorism.
What deductive logic are you using to establish this certainty, because I'm telling you that it won't. Right now there are small bits of land not occupied that could as easily be called free. Yet... those free bits of Palestinian territories are the most inhospitable by its own leaders. Get it?
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
Point I am making is that you should try to understand what the actual problem is.
Analyze the matter scientifically and rationally. First, we observe what is the issue. Then we observe what is going on and detail differences on these accounts at different locations. To see if they are uniform and true. From what we can detail is that sure, life is quite bad in Palestine and certainly the Israelis play a defiant role in it. However, Arab life seems better in Israel even more so than in Egypt.
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
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Point I am making is that you should try to understand what the actual problem is.
Analyze the matter scientifically and rationally. First, we observe what is the issue. Then we observe what is going on and detail differences on these accounts at different locations. To see if they are uniform and true. From what we can detail is that sure, life is quite bad in Palestine and certainly the Israelis play a defiant role in it. However, Arab life seems better in Israel even more so than in Egypt.
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
So the truth of the matter is should we really decide on independence, when Arabs appear to live better lives in Israel than otherwise. And certainly the better living conditions would present less terrorism. I mean look at the rest of the Arab World for a second. Given what we see and admit that Palestinians are no exception that wouldn't their little state be the same as any other Arab hell on Earth? Literally, Arab life outside of Israel is HELL. You have zero freedom unless you are Muslim.
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
And when you are Muslim, you have to be a man and a heterosexual and deeply religious or tied closely to family elites. The poor are treated horribly and it is expected as a norm due to their religion. All of this permeates from the Islamic Faith. Sure some Muslim countries or areas are better, Kurdistan, Iran, Indonesia, ect... But you have to understand. Indonesian Islam is a hybrid of Islam and Southeast Asian Morals, which are deeply Pro-Feminist. Iran has a history of favoring Innovation.
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
Meanwhile, in the Arab World, innovation unless it is tied to the secular elite (Princes/Emirs) amounts to nothing and is discouraged. People are expected to be subordinate and submissive as if they were slaves. And the Religion is dictated by the Mullahs and Muftis, thus we have system of slavery not much different than what the Chinese had depicted in Tibet. So what is really the problem? Is it Israel's somewhat benevolent expansion or is it Islam violent suppression of a person's humanity?
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
@SmartGuy4today Which has nothing to do with this conflict. If Israel wants peace they need to get off the land they have no legal claim to.
MsZeitgeist85 4 months ago
Islam has everything to do with conflict. The major reason for war has always to do with religion. Have you never studied history before? Crusades, Russian Revolution, French Revolution, WWII, Holocaust, Inquisition, Reconquista, Iranian Revolution, current Arab Spring, and every single Arab-Israeli war has to do with religion.
"If Israel wants peace they need to get off the land they have no legal claim to."
That won't create peace. There is no peace in Libya, Libya is not occupied by Israel
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
Missy, you are ignoring the actual problem. it has nothing to do with Israel occupying Territory. If Territory was the matter then how come when Israel gave back the Sinai that it never had made any bit of the situation between Israel and Egypt more peaceful. Instead, Egyptians are routing for Israel to give up the West Bank. However, West Bank is higher elevated and perfect for shooting rockets to move Israelis towards the Sea. You call that propaganda, but read their Quran. It says do this.
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
@SmartGuy4today Israel took the Sinai illegally and in 1970 they said they were not going to leave and they said that they were going to build permenant settlements. Well that got them a war in 73. Then there was a treaty with Egypt and since then Egypt has been in the pocket of Israel.
Egyptians want them to give back the West Bank because Israel has zero legal claim to it
MsZeitgeist85 4 months ago
Egypt attacked Israel, illegally. Egypt establish a federation with Syria, called the United Arab Republic solely to surround Israel and destroy it.
But do you really think Palestinians are legitimate people? Many of them are just Arab migrants who transverse through the Middle East to find employment during a time of Industrial Revolution thanks to Jewish Migrants from Russia that came into the Ottoman Empire. And later during the Palestinian Mandate. We had this in USA called Great Migration
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
Prior to 1948, Arabs in Palestine had Syrian citizenship cards, not Palestinian ones. The only people who acquired Palestinian citizenship prior to 1948 and participated in the Palestinian government (aside from negotiations and diplomacy, which a state entity does with foreigners) were the Jews. And those Jews merely renamed their state as Israel. Just as Zaire renamed it self back to the Congo.
Palestinians are not Palestinians, they are Syrians. Their culture and history stems from Saladin.
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
"and they said that they were going to build permenant settlements"
Only a small minority of people. Just as there was a small minority of people in the United States that wanted to annex Mexico after the American-Mexican War. You cannot seriously take that kind of information seriously.
"Well that got them a war in 73."
The Yom Kippur War has nothing to do with the Six-Day War except that the Arabs had lost. In fact, Israel won the 1973 war by a tactical victory. So why forfeit land?
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
Besides, the Sinai is occupied territory too. The indigenous inhabitants are Bedouins and they hate the mistreatment made by Egyptians. So how is the Sinai occupied land or illegal occupied land, when it never belonged to Egyptians just as Samaritan land does not belong to Jews and the Bedouins welcomed the Jewish visitors.
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
"Then there was a treaty with Egypt and since then Egypt has been in the pocket of Israel."
Not it is not. Egypt's dictators are inline with Israel solely to acquire more control over its people, not the state or country it self. The people have always been adamantly anti-Jewish since Pharaohic days.
"Egyptians want them to give back the West Bank because Israel has zero legal claim to it"
Yes they do. The partition of Palestine was never legalized, thus Palestine never separated into two.
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
Also there are plenty of countries that occupy territory from other countries and has never lead to any conflict. When America occupied Japan after WWII that had no serious problems of terrorism. When America had occupied and still does occupy Native American lands, you don't see today Native Americans taking on stray jackets and killing Americans. By the way, I'm part Cherokee. America was created out removal and genocide of my people, so what right do you have to tell Israel to do anything?!
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
@SmartGuy4today When the US occupied Japan they were not impeading the economy, stealing resources and building settlements there so your comparison doesn't work here.
BTW I am also 1/4 Cherokee.
MsZeitgeist85 4 months ago
"When the US occupied Japan they were not impeading the economy, stealing resources and building settlements"
Oh yes they did. American Military Bases in Japan hold permanent residence complexes and people who reside in them are considered on U.S. Territory and if born there as U.S. citizens, thus are settlements. And America did establish capitalism in Japan's economy and stole much of Japan's imperial resources when we took away their possessions.
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
@SmartGuy4today Military Bases do not even compare with Illegal Settlements in the West Bank. Bases do not keep the people from other cities and to not pollute the land the way Israeli Settlements do by destroying the groundwater. Most of this is not even usable to Palestinian farmers. Again you are making a falacious argument.
MsZeitgeist85 4 months ago
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"so your comparison doesn't work here."
My comparison does work. You need to know your facts before you dictate.
"BTW I am also 1/4 Cherokee."
Oh really? What tribe? I'm the descendent of a White Clan member, a Chief to be exact from a tribe in North Caroline. Still around today in the far Eastern corner of the state,
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
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@MsZeitgeist85 LOL every white cunt in USA says "I'm native" Get real. ~cheers~
JunePTpwner 1 month ago
Israel has been Palestinian ever since Herodotus names it "Palestain" in the 5th century BC.
Funny thing is that it is Jewish history that is entirely built on mythology: "ancient Israel was no more than a small tribal kingdom at best" - Ze'ev Herzog (Israeli archaeologist).
"Jewish history in Palestine is nothing but a small ripple in amongst the vast ocean of Palestinian history." - K. W. Whitelam in "The Invention of Ancient Israel: The Silencing of Palestinian History."
OrthodoxDarwinist 7 months ago
THEIR IS NO israel even in the jews book never mention its said PHILISTIN so zionist shut the F off go back poalnd/ africa thugs
haifab1 7 months ago
@haifab1 Israel wasn't mentioned in the bible? Have you really read it?
And it has never mentioned Phiilistin, it was Plashet.
Israel is even mention in the Q'uran.
Truthism101 7 months ago
Actually, there is a Palestine....
The fact is that Israel is by persecuting Palestinians it is violating Human Rights.
There are no ifs, ands, or buts about this.
And nobody can label this Anti-Semitism either, because if it was anti-semitic then it would be against the Jews as a race. Also, Anti-Semitism does not include racial hatred or hostlity of just jews, it also includes arabs as well since they are semites too.
Happiness468 8 months ago
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@Happiness468
THERE ARE FACTS AND THEN THERE ARE MYTHS
FACT: There are no “Palestinian people” or “Palestine entity.” Palestinians are not native to the Land of Israel because Palestinians are Arabs who came from other lands. All of the Land of Israel belongs exclusivelyto the Jewish people. Why, because the G-d of Yisrael gave it ONLY to the Jews.
-Baruch Maimon Ph.D.
DrBaruchdeSpinoza 7 months ago
@Happiness468
Human rights huh ?fuck yourself
WipeTheNazis 6 months ago
Happiness... There is no Palestine. There was a Palestine prior to 1948, only Jews went to get a Palestinian citizenship. No Arabs. Palestinian Nationalism, if you can call it nationalism, is relatively new. It use to be Syrian Nationalism stemming from the pride of the Syrian Sultanate that has existed, especially during the Ayyubid Dynasty and its most famous leader, Saladin. Of course, I doubt someone like you has actually studied Arab History. Freaking illiterate dumbass.
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
Since only Jews had applied for citizenship and the only matter that had tied any Arabs to being Palestinians was the United Nations, which is kind of malicious, and thus the only Palestinians were the Jews then when the Jews had proclaimed their land as a state, they had thus renamed their country from Palestine to Israel. Zaire had done this, renaming it self back to the Congo. Also, only some Arabs are Semites, no one in North Africa is a Semite, except certain Bedouins.
SmartGuy4today 4 months ago
Sr I have a question, why do you believes the actual jews to have any divine right to posess this land since the vast majority of them do not have any genetic relationship with the original israelites? (they are 99% converts of the 7th century). ¿They have permission to do anything to retain it because is God will?
(sorry bad english)
ubersett 1 year ago
@ubersett what evidence you have for this? khazar theory was disporven long time ago. genetic data shows all jews share a common middle east origin. and ashkenazim are more related to other jews, than to their host populations.
beepu2 1 year ago
@beepu2 =LIES,LIES,LIES ASHKENAZI JEWS ARE 100% KHAZARS.NOT RELATED TO HEBREWS IN ANYWAY
mullahomar007 1 year ago
@mullahomar007 "Recent genetic studies, based on Y chromosome polymorphic markers, showed that Ashkenazi Jews are more closely related to other Jewish and Middle Eastern groups than to their host populations in Europe." - European Journal of Human Genetics.
also yiddish language. has a large amount of Hebrew and Aramaic influence, but no turkic influence at all. also somke influence from Romance language, proving they came from west to east europe.
beepu2 1 year ago
@mullahomar007 Huge genetic project between the World Jewish genetic research conducted in relation to other nations , (conclusion) that most of the DNA of Jews around the world originated in the Middle East. Kazr origin story of the legend (the Hasidic) was not really an Empire Kazrit, this particular story of thousands of Hasidic tales, elements hostile to Israel, chose the story as an attempt to detach them from their historical home land
asaf921 6 months ago
@beepu2 SHOW US HOW THAT THEORY WAS DISPROVEN???
mullahomar007 1 year ago
@ubersett EXCELLENT POST
mullahomar007 1 year ago
Far as I see it this video is only supporting and advocating racism a nd racial superiority. It is no secret that jews call everyone else gentiles. they are the only people that has a name for everyone else. Thats because you are either jewish or less than jewish.....
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00
You mean you do not say strangers
Immigrants
What's the different
I suggest you look at this
en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Goy
i do not think its racism to be called goy couse you can join Judaism
and jews in israel are from all around the world
TheUria24 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00
You mean you do not say strangers
Immigrants
What's the different
I suggest you look at this
en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Goy
i do not think its racism to be called goy couse you can join Judaism
and jews in israel are from all around the world
TheUria24 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00
now about this video i did not see it couse its not giving any Evidence
i do not think thares People called Palestinians because there is no proof of the existence of their country and their names also indicate that thay are from the Arab countries around israel like iraki wich from irak
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24
I sorry that I can only say that your comments lacks any logic and is void of substance. In other words you would have had a better standing had you said nothing.
To say that there is no people called Palestinians is just advocating to the genocide in progress in Palestine. Any proof that you can give that there was a past Israel and Israelis I can show you equal proof of that there was a Palestine and Palestinians. Currently they have been "wiped of the map". Sounds familiar?
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00
what genocide are you tolking about 10000 in 60 years is not genocide
so by your logic the thousands of Israelis that bean killed in six days war is anathare genocide
maybe the ones that bean killed in 48 by palestinians are anathare genocide
maybe avry one that bean killed is genocide
Maybe the Black September that carried out by Jordanians is genocide
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24
Ok so what we call it is more important than the 10,000 you say were killed in 60 yrs. You want to take the focus off the killings and put it on the "name" of it. LOLOLOL. Who do u think is really listening to your twisted kind of brainwashing talk anymore. THE WORLD HAS WOKEN UP TO WHAT IS REALL HAPPENNING OVER THERE SO CUT IT OUT NOW.
Alsoabout 1.5 million Palestinian civilians have died by Israeli violence since 1948. Source...The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" (Oxford,2003).
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00
hare is Benny Morris
way more objects
and way more Facts
than The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" (Oxford,2003)
Enjoy Zombie
Listening to liars and haters of Israel
Mr. world awakens
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24
Imagine you are putting Benny Morris as a source. LOLOLOL. Benny Morrris just cannot be recognised as a credible source on the subject matter. By the way wasn't he chastising Ben Gurion because he did not rid Palestine of ALL the Palestinians? LOLOLOL and you want to reference that as a source. LOLOLOLOL
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00
first yas he is and way better than ilan
second whare did he chastising Ben Gurion and ho say he says that
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24
Sorry NO HE IS NOT A CREDIBLE SOURCE. get serious please.
And about chastising Ben Gurion chck it out on:
An Interview with Benny Morris
By ARI SHAVIT January 16, 2004
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00 first thing aharech is not a source its anti-Israel and they caught more than once lieing in this article still does not prove any genocide
The opposite he condemn the atrocities against the Arabs is talking about why thay had to expel some of the Arabs
You did not read the article I suggest you see the clip
watch?v=NYVDT4sfaiA
if you say it couse his a Zionist
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24
Hey its useless communicating with you. You do not use logic and you are always right. whats the sense in the discussion then...Bye
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00
Do not go what you want I brought you a person that I think a lot more objects you do not agree then fine say in what what you're thinking what does this have to do with logic its my opinion
Climate debate
Do not say your opinion is wrong so you did not ok
speak
free speak no
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24
I see you are struggling .....so here is my final lesson:
If I said to you I don't like yellow because yellow is black. I have given you my opinion...but it has no logic.
That is how your communications have been therefore I cannot continue. I would end up in the madhouse with you.
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
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TheUria24 1 year ago
The truth is that the Arabs attacked Jews long before the establishment of Israel in the 20th such as the murder in Hebron in 1929
Arabs also never established a state in 1948
Contrary they attacked Israel with Syria Lebanon Jordan Iraq Egypt and Saudi Arabia
I suggest you re-learn the history
You want tham to have a state no problem not at the expense of Israel
NEVER EVER YOU HEARE ME NEVER
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24
NO The truth is that there was no attacking going on between Palestinians and Jews in Palestine before zionists came to try and steal the land and therefore Palestinians had to DEFEND their country. Just like you say you defending Israel now. But is it yours???? maybe you have some control now. but it aint yours ......NEVER EVER YOU HEARE ME NEVER !!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00
yas it mying and if you dont like it you can go fuck your self
and if the muslims attack israel macca is gone
lololololololololololol
oh yeah and probably most of their countries
gat lost idiot
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24
I see you know how to curse and insult and be violent just like your zionist friends. I suppose its what you do best...you were not doing it at the beginning I guess its especially when you realize that you cannot trick the other person with lies and deceit. Like I said and you have proven you have no logic and have shown empty discussion....... I guess "the truth does hurt" LOLOLOLOLOLOL
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00
you moron You gave me no proof hear is a proof of the killings of Jews by Muslims except Hebron messecer
Look for Jewish Nakba
or Grand Mufti, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini
gat a life
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24
I see the truth still hurting....Jewish Nakba is just a counter to the Palestinian Nakba. First it is unreal to begin with and second the numbers they claiming is like 1 jew to 100 palestinians. see the lack of logic again. LOLOLOLOLOL
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00
and by the way fuck Muhammad
Your logic is equal to Muhammad the bastard
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24
If my logic is equal to Mohammed then he must have been a very logical person.
As for the first sentence ....you can do it yourself. My guess is you will enjoy it.
LOLOLOL
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00
yeah sure muhammad was very reasonable murder three Jewish tribes in Saudi Arabia
madina Jews
And countless different peoples
Pedophilia
Keep that you show great common sense
Your numbers have not been proved for the Arabs the jews had the nakba and the Holocaust
Therefore there is no Nakba for the arabs
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24
U were the one that said mohammad was logical why u upset at him now.
Your own benny morris stated a consistent number for the palestinian nakba but I guess you dont want to quote him now. LOLOLOL
keep trying to change history to suit your unjust ways.
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00
You're an idiot i did not contradict what he says if you moron soo the program I gave you and hare anthare surce
walid shoebat
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24
There you go again,,,jumping up and down and insulting people....It happens every time that you are stuck up against the truth. BYE BYE now you are too indecent for me to continue.
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00
oh i am not insulting you i tell you what you are
an idiot and a moron that cant see truth that bean show to you
to insulting you would be point less couse you have no idea what are you tolking about
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24
Typical zionist...arogant and know it all. LOLOL
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00
well i try to
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24 The prophets of the Jews are just as sick,disgusting,perverted and barbaric as Muhammed.
ryan84160 8 months ago
Except deportation done mostly by themselves
And do not forget that Arabs still live in Israel
Therefore there is no logic in what you say
And another thing still did not say anything about the Nazi Arab
i know It's hard to wake up to reality
but you gat to
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24
"deportation by themselves" I like that one. U fail at logic so now you trying comedy....or could be thats made up so you can sleep at night. You never did anything to hurt anyone lololololol. Reality is that you will not be able to live with a clean conscience. all their life trouble will follow your people because injustice always needs to be paid back. "crime doesn't pay" ever heard that.....???
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00 and by the way Am I supposed to be wrong
You attack my country even though your country is not better
And you expect me not to protect her
Nice logic
Idiot
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24
By The last lesson I gave you there is no doubt you are wrong, wrong, wrong …..I attacked no one…all the attacking has been done by your guys by invading an innocent people in their own country and then degrading them in every imaginable way and then some.
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
@TheUria24
Then after that you guys attack their history by rewriting it many times denying that they even existed. guys like your benny morris etc…But their bones lie under the earth where they once lived and their souls survive the earthly punishment that your guys gave them and their indomitable spirit haunts the invaders so that their guilt will never let them be at peace.
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00
watch?v=2XDoH4XVh8Q
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24
what are you trying to show me?? a web address? try again please
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
@fredmcmurray00
watch?v=2XDoH4XVh8Q
TheUria24 1 year ago
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HEIL HITLER!!!!! FUCK THE JEWS!!!!!!!
KEPARATable 1 year ago
there is no palestine
MyVideoHesBast 1 year ago
Google the "BALFOUR DECLARATION", Jackass!
Then, READ it!
en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration_of_1917
"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine..."
statesRcountries 1 year ago
Fuck religion, this genocide of humanity should not be!!! The native americans now the palestine people, fucking disgusting and nothing holy about it!!!
shadow1wolf7 1 year ago
@shadow1wolf7
WELL SAID
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
Israel has the right to EXPAND
ChristianZionist 1 year ago
@ChristianZionist
Yea I hope they expand up your ass
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
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@ChristianZionist
"Israel has the right to EXPAND"
Hey you every thought about what you said? Really? Does Jordan, Egypt, Syria and Lebanon have the same right to EXPAND?
It should be interesting the see your reply.
fredmcmurray00 1 year ago
There was never a nation named Israel until 1949. There are no official records of a nation named Israel -- Only administrative areas of Rome called Judea and Palestina. Neither of these regions were ever considered nations.
So I guess Israel and Palestine both don't exist if we go by the history of the world.
The Bible does not count as a historic work since almost nothing in it can be proven scientifically.
orasis 2 years ago
Very few things can be proved scientifically. Science is nothing more than a theory that hasn't been proven wrong yet, and because it hasn't yet been proven wrong it is assumed to be right even though it hasn't been proven to be true. Science has been rewritten dozens of times and it's only a matter of time before it gets rewritten again.
gordonmcknight86 2 years ago
As for historical evidence of Israel's pre-1948 existence, there have been several huge archaeological finds in the land of Israel which date back to Biblical times.
Judea was the name of Israel in Roman times. In fact Roman records show and prove that the Jews were living in the land at the time and had their sovereignty taken away by the Romans. Whatever the Romans wanted to call the land they never tried to deny to Jewish inhabitants' existence.
gordonmcknight86 2 years ago
The Romans only renamed the land Palestinia after the failed Jewish rebellions of the 1st century CE, in order to try and remove any Jewish presence in the area, which is also why the destroyed the Temple.
You cannot deny that the Jews ruled that land long before 1948, and to do so is ludicrous
gordonmcknight86 2 years ago
Actually Science is nothing more than a tool which examines and bring in information. It cannot confirm or validate information. Deduction is the philosophical tool we use to validate truth, not science.
The accounts of Israel's existence is in history, not science. And almost all accounts of history cannot be proven with science.
Israel's existence is validated as true by all members of each respected religion by their own sacred books. History is nothing more than stories recorded long ago
Tom101229 2 years ago
Not being offensive or anything, but your wrong, as the romans took over that region, at one point it was called Palestine.
Watooti 2 years ago
And when the British took over the region from the Ottomans, it became again Palestine, but the Jews were the only people to identify themselves as Palestinians.
Palestine is not a country in the Arab World. It is a Military District of the Syrian Sultanate. Its ruler is a military general of the Syrian Army with no formal title of his own. It is not like Kuwait, an emirate. It is a military district like the French Occupied region of Germany after WWII and prior to West Germany's formation.
Tom101229 2 years ago
No, before the brits were there it was palestine under the ottoman rule. Before that it was still called Palestine. Palestine isn't a military districtt to the arab world. Its a country, and it is going to be a country. The jewish people had no right to take over. Its as if the moores take back spain from the spanish people. Rightfully, and truly it is called palestine. Israel is just a phase.
Watooti 2 years ago
All bullshit. Watooti. Do you know anything about Ottmans?
Tom101229 2 years ago
Nations aren't named after States, idiot. There is no nation called Saudi Arabia, United Kingdom, Russia, People's Republic of China, United States of America, Japan, Germany, or Iran. These are states, not nations. YOU ARE SO STUPID!
Russians is the nation, Russia is the state. Hebrews (Jews and Hebrew Speaking People) is the nation, Israel is the state.
Goodness, get yourself some education. Take up a geography course. What is your extent of knowledge? Have you ever been to college?
Tom101229 2 years ago
Do you truly know who is Elohim?Next Question..Who are the real JEWS?Clue...They were not descended from the medieval communities of the Rhineland located in west Germany.Otherwise known commonly today as the Ashkenazi Jews!
jachim718 2 years ago
Once again I'm imprest!!
anipussirhc 3 years ago
Howdy!
I Went To (Heitage! Not Hates) Channel.
& yt Said Not Allowed, In My Country????
I'm an American! Apalachion-American.
In Ohio! Granted I Was Born ,
On The Wrong Side of The Big Creek!
But Dangit! I Ain't No Liberal Ass yankee!
Granted I Am Flying The Israeli Flag, In Support of Thier Latest Action!
But Still Flying The First National, As My Back Ground! In My Yard & Battle Flag Painted On My Truck! I Think yt Is Confused!
rebelstang 3 years ago
Howdy! I Would Give Ya a 5 +
Praise The LORD and Pass The Ammunition!
Israel's Kicking Some Major HAM-ASS Now!
Dio Vindice!
rebelstang 3 years ago
The moral compass of anti-Semites, Jew haters and anti-Zionist is self-defeating. Their hatred towards the Jewish people is diabolic and evil. They are ungrateful towards their parents. For Islam was born of the womb of Judaism. The father and mother of thier religion Islam and of all Muslims.
-Dr. Baruch de Spinoza, Harvard University
DrBaruchdeSpinoza 3 years ago
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The Truth:
There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc.
DrBaruchdeSpinoza 3 years ago
And everyone should, but Unfortunately, Dont know that the desicable, And humiliating "religion" of Christianity, is a 100% Jewish religion created by jews, for Non-Jews, to follow, While they themselfes, At best, practice the far more intelligent, but equally loathsome, religion of Judaism!!!,
antijudea 3 years ago
In one paragraph you rail against Christianity, and in the next against materialism, when, in fact, the teachings of Christ were oriented towards the spiritual rather than the material.
These are the two sides of the 'psychological coin,' each of which finds resonance within its respective hemisphere of the brain.
The Jewish conception of deity is all-encompassing in regards to these primal orientations, even as your perceptions seems to be.
bootleggersouth 3 years ago
USA and GB are responsible founding this artificial nest of hostile settlers, solely based on an event that never took place in the first place. Except of the ancestors of those people living in Palestine before 1918 (Jews, Christians and Moslems), the rest I consider being invaders, and thus should be moved to their moral homeland, USA.
You could give them a new wonderland, Jewada? There they could built their fake Jewrusalem in Las Jewas? USA must solve its problems at home, not abroad.
toretreskjegg 3 years ago
The problem to which you so mis-informedly allude is neither American nor modern. It is ancient--the establishment and maintenance of a cosmological neutral zone.
To grasp the situation, look to the Sumerian stories wherein humankinds origins and orientations are explained most closely to the source. The presence which men call god contains rival factions. The Jewish conception of deity reflects a neutrality between the factions; This is why they were Chosen to occupy the neutral zone
bootleggersouth 3 years ago
The establishment of Israel in 1948 is justified because of 6000 years old Sumerian religious "stories"?
Well, you have the gift of the gab, but your gift won't get to me. You see I am word-blind as to Sumerian stories and other tales from old Semite temples of propaganda.
toretreskjegg 3 years ago
The Sumerians were pre-Semitic and there most direct cultural descendents, the (Semitic) Assyrians, conquered many of the tribes of Israel, splintered them, and deported the survivors to disparate regions of the earth, thereby negating their influence via multiculturalism.
The most direct western spread of Sumerian influence was likely to the Greek isles where the Hellenic Pantheon is a direct cultural transposition of the 12 Annunaki gods and goddesses.
bootleggersouth 3 years ago
..... Barbars And thieves from North-East Asia,(Much like the Lapps, or Sapmis, of Northern Scandinavia, Finland, and Russia!!),
antijudea 3 years ago
Or Why not "Give" them Canada??, They Already control it anyway!,
Or maybe JEWmaica, And kill of all those disgusting rastafarians, first,
Or Tyrkia, Mongolia, Or Australia, There are many possibileties!!, - But Israel, whoever is an illigimate, "criminal", state, if there ever was one, - And should be wiped completely of the map, I is supposed to be Palestine!!!, And the Middle-East is Arab land, not Jewish!!!, The Jews are nothing but degenareted, and Mongolized Turks,
antijudea 3 years ago
That's absolute nonsense. The Jews are the only legitimate inhabitants of the neutral zone, or Holy Lands, due to cosmological neutrality of Yahweh. This is why they were Chosen.
As for your racial explanations, consider this: If a group which you find so dispicable is as dominant of world affairs as you claim, then what does this say about your own racial constitution?
bootleggersouth 3 years ago
But i dont believe in "Yahweh", or Jehova,
- I Despise, and loathe christianity, And seek to Destroy it, The Same way it has destroyed all cultures of the World, natural healthy Values, depraved, and brainwashed, and destroyed my people Mentally, and spiritually, - And re-Store those, and my proud ethnic pagan culture, and traditions,
anti-Christianity, = anti-Judaism, = anti-Israel, sheer logic!!,
antijudea 3 years ago
Behavior matters more than cultural-specific labels.
For example, in the Antichrist, Nietzsche speaks favorably of the original manifestation of the Hebrew god when such a god was an expression of a bold, domineering and nationalistic culture---a god of good and evil, as was the behavior of the leader of leaders, King David.
It is apparent to me that some among the Jews are reawakening to such Davidic strength.
bootleggersouth 3 years ago
Nietzsche's complaint against latter forms of Judaism, and with Christianity, which he sees as the cosmological manifestations of subjugated peoples, is that they command their followers to behave in opposition to the life-force inherent in nature, and are, therefore, life-denying, rather than life-affirming.
In our times, this life-denying approach emanates from the political Left, the great 'religion' of our era
The mindset of King David, the Hebrew Overman, is the cure for weakness
bootleggersouth 3 years ago
I despise Nietszche, as the sheer birthgiver of this new movement of "exestenscial nihilism", And wiew it merely as YET, another excstension of Judaism, and Christianity, Or Judeo-Christianity, like globalism, modernism, socialism, capitalism, communism, etc, etc, etc,
antijudea 3 years ago
Though Nietzsche is associated with---and was influenced by---nihilism it must be pointed out that ardently opposed nihilism, on the grounds that it exalts fantastical unreality, thereby devaluing the impassioned reality of existence.
bootleggersouth 3 years ago
1) Actually, very few understand why some are chosen---it is because their cosmology represents a neutrality between opposing forces. In order to understand this, one has to look to the wisdom of the Sumerian stories wherein we find the origins of Yahweh, who is in fact a composite character formed primarily from the Annunaki brothers Enki and Enlil.
2) What is fear?
bootleggersouth 3 years ago
You cannot destroy what the heavens have ordained.
bootleggersouth 3 years ago
One man's trash is another man's treasure.
bootleggersouth 3 years ago
Yes, indeed, but the problem is that you,(You beeing YOU, The Jews), - force your "treasure", on to the entire World, When we, the rest of the World, dont want it, or NEED it,
It is like someone With a giant sack of glossy cheap, glittery gold-Coins, And Diamonds, trying to push it on Another man, When in fact the Other man, has no need, or desire, Whatsoever for such cheap, And Vulgar Materialism in his life!!,
antijudea 3 years ago
All living things struggle for dominance and resources. Viability is demonstrated by dominance.
The Jews did not create greed within humanity, nor can they end it, nor can any other group. If the allegations of international Jewish financial dominance are true, then you blame them for winning at a game you would rather have won yourself.
Besides, if the Jews were so influential in the realm of finance as many claim, then the Muslims wouldn't be buying their way into Europe and America.
bootleggersouth 3 years ago
Great comments bottleggersouth. :)
t40541 2 years ago
There is NO ISRAEL, - ONLY Palestine, - Why??, Because The Bible is Garbage, - And so are the Jews!!,
antijudea 3 years ago